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| chx | dumpkeys? | 00:35 |
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| Luke-Jr | chx: yes, dumpkeys | 01:14 |
| chx | what's that? | 01:14 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Luke-Jr: don't linux-omap have a fix for that in the kernel? | 01:14 |
| Luke-Jr | qwerty12_N810: 2.6.30-rc8 didn't | 01:15 |
| Luke-Jr | current Linux-OMAP doesn't have keyboard support for N810 at all | 01:15 |
| Luke-Jr | chx: run it and see | 01:15 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | Luke-Jr: Oh. I found some patch for Fn in console. Took it and butchered it to run in 2.6.21. Fn in console worked, Fn in Maemo didn't... | 01:16 |
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| Luke-Jr | qwerty12_N810: I don't care much for hacks | 01:19 |
| Luke-Jr | or was it an actual bugfix? | 01:19 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | I believe it was meant to be so | 01:19 |
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| Luke-Jr | qwerty12_N810: link? | 02:10 |
| Luke-Jr | qwerty12_N810: do note this bug is NOT N8x0-specific, and occurs on some x86 platforms too | 02:11 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | Luke-Jr: took it from here: http://muru.com/linux/n8x0/n8x0-2008-08-14.tar.gz (may have been updated/removed/superseded - I dunno) | 02:13 |
| Luke-Jr | qwerty12_N810: that is a hack and rather unrelated | 02:14 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Unrelated? It gets you Fn in console. *shrug* | 02:15 |
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| radic | qwerty12_N810: what's the problem if the N800 charges the akku for more then 6h? | 03:52 |
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| Proteous | BEWM!!!! | 04:09 |
| Proteous | not really | 04:09 |
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| Luke-Jr | qwerty12_N810: no it doesn't, it makes Fn/Ctrl/Alt "sticky" | 05:49 |
| xnt14 | oh no....... | 05:51 |
| xnt14 | :P | 05:51 |
| xnt14 | nevermind :P | 05:51 |
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| sarower | for thread programming in maemo which one i can use..? | 08:53 |
| sarower | any suggestion? | 08:53 |
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| tl | I add my input method plug-ins, why plug-ins menu to choose the input method in the sub-menu is displayed on this gray | 09:22 |
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| timeless_mbp | hello world | 10:26 |
| danielwilms | morning! :) | 10:26 |
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| timeless_mbp | do you read maemo bug jar? | 10:29 |
| danielwilms | haven't done it yet this morning, but in general yes :) | 10:30 |
| timeless_mbp | ok, before you read today's | 10:30 |
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| timeless_mbp | can you give me a rough from memory summary of how you remember things from the last bug jar? | 10:30 |
| timeless_mbp | mostly an impression | 10:31 |
| timeless_mbp | are any components improving? are any components getting worse? | 10:31 |
| timeless_mbp | things like that | 10:31 |
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| danielwilms | as the new beta_2 came last week a lot of things has been fixed there | 10:33 |
| danielwilms | have a look here | 10:33 |
| danielwilms | http://maemo.org/development/sdks/maemo_5_beta_2_release_notes/ | 10:33 |
| timeless_mbp | danielwilms: yeah, i don't care :) | 10:36 |
| timeless_mbp | that's not the goal of my inquiry | 10:36 |
| timeless_mbp | the question is basically: does the bug jar enable you to see where things are getting better | 10:36 |
| * timeless_mbp grumbles | 10:37 | |
| timeless_mbp | why the heck is HAM's section using Justification? | 10:37 |
| timeless_mbp | and would someone please teach the relnotes author about HTML's <a href> ? | 10:38 |
| * timeless_mbp really hates the color scheme used by maemo.org for links :( | 10:39 | |
| timeless_mbp | who thought light gray was a good idea for followed links? | 10:39 |
| timeless_mbp | oh, also... does anyone know if changes to the Maemo5 Dev Doc online will get reflected back into the original content? | 10:40 |
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| danielwilms | timeles_mbp: the bug-jar gives a good overview what the biggest issues are and what was adressed during the week...so you can see some steady improvements...sometimes more, sometimes less ;) | 10:41 |
| timeless_mbp | danielwilms: well, after you read today's jar, lemme know which things you think improved :) | 10:42 |
| danielwilms | sometimes less :) hey...it's vacation's period :) | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | morning timeless_mbp, danielwilms | 10:45 |
| timeless_mbp | hi | 10:45 |
| danielwilms | morning | 10:45 |
| * RST38h yawns widelu | 10:45 | |
| RST38h | y | 10:45 |
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| RST38h | All right, gentlemen, what are the news? X900? C900? =) | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | Nokia XXX, obviously. | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | with vin diesel in the commercials | 10:47 |
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| timeless_mbp | danielwilms: oh, i know that... but that's not the point... | 10:49 |
| timeless_mbp | i'm fishing for something specific | 10:49 |
| timeless_mbp | play along :) | 10:49 |
| timeless_mbp | if the answer is that you don't think anything specific has improved, you can just say that | 10:49 |
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| RST38h | Sts: With a vibration feature. | 10:51 |
| RST38h | Sts: BTW, Nokia already has a lipstick-shapred fashion phone, so adding a vibration feature to that should work | 10:52 |
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| Stskeeps | and we have an instant winner, coupling it with pornographic linux applications | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:53 |
| timeless_mbp | somehow i don't think that phone will run linux anytime soon | 10:53 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | They could say it has Linuxxx. Maybe that will go down nice with the furries who are into their penguins... | 10:55 |
| danielwilms | timeless_mbp: it was equal...almost the same amount of bugs opened and fixed...so slight improvement and some new things found... :) | 10:56 |
| timeless_mbp | danielwilms: so you've read and you're done? | 10:56 |
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| RST38h | Sts: ...and make it PINK! | 11:05 |
| RST38h | Sts: Speaking of which, http://tamss60.tamoggemon.com/2009/04/06/pink-n97-pops-up-at-the-fcc/ | 11:05 |
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| Macer | lol | 11:09 |
| Macer | i'm looking at the touch book site | 11:09 |
| Macer | and all the "reviews" etc of it | 11:09 |
| Macer | were from march of 2009 | 11:09 |
| Macer | when it was announced | 11:09 |
| * Macer thinks it is vaporware | 11:09 | |
| Macer | lol | 11:09 |
| Macer | it is SUPPOSED to come out this month.. they are supposed to start shipping | 11:09 |
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| johnx | Macer, seems like a commonality between a lot of OMAP3 devices :) | 11:34 |
| suihkulokki | Macer: they started taking pre-orders early this month, and they still kept the "expect to ship in july" so I think they are serious | 11:34 |
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| RST38h | Serious people do not take preorders until production starts | 11:40 |
| woglinde | *g* | 11:41 |
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| woglinde | netbook with ion | 11:43 |
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| woglinde | hi florian | 11:46 |
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| florian | good morning | 11:48 |
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| timeless_mbp | wet morning | 11:54 |
| timeless_mbp | very wet | 11:54 |
| * timeless_mbp considers staying inside | 11:54 | |
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| wazd | timeless_mbp: oh, we have slight rain too :( | 12:06 |
| wazd | timeless_mbp: and I have to go to my country :( | 12:06 |
| timeless_mbp | "country"? | 12:06 |
| timeless_mbp | as in going from Russia to Finland? | 12:06 |
| timeless_mbp | or "country house" | 12:07 |
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| vilen_ | hello | 12:10 |
| vilen_ | im developing some software for maemo | 12:11 |
| vilen_ | any of you have experience working with the maemo wifi driver? | 12:11 |
| vilen_ | please let know, i have some questions :) | 12:12 |
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| Stskeeps | what are you trying to do with it? | 12:14 |
| vilen_ | basically force sleep/wakeup | 12:16 |
| vilen_ | i tried turning txpower on/off | 12:17 |
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| vilen_ | but it seems that the driver does not react to those iwreq's | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, PSM? | 12:17 |
| vilen_ | well yeah but there i can play only with the beacon interval | 12:18 |
| woglinde | vilen_ might be problem from underlying wlan stack too | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | you can disable it too though | 12:18 |
| vilen_ | but yes i have thought about that to | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | yeah - on maemo it will do a lot of nasty things | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | try under Mer or something like that and disable the power saving wifi script | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | you might have better success with it | 12:18 |
| vilen_ | sorry i have never heard of Mer before | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | same wifi driver but it doesn't interfere as much | 12:20 |
| vilen_ | ok thanks i will give it a go | 12:21 |
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| Stskeeps | http://dilbert.com/fast <- heh :> | 12:27 |
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| timeless_mbp | http://dilbert.com/fast/2009-07-19/ <- better | 12:34 |
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| timeless_mbp | http://dilbert.com/fast/2009-07-09/ | 12:39 |
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| RST38h | More, more rain! | 12:47 |
| RST38h | And can we have +12oC please? | 12:48 |
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| Macer | ugh | 12:54 |
| Macer | have to move like a lot of stuff over to my raid | 12:54 |
| Macer | blah | 12:54 |
| Macer | i should have done this a long tmie ago | 12:54 |
| Macer | the crappy part is going to be when i have to stop the vboxes | 12:54 |
| Macer | to move them :( | 12:54 |
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| Jaffa | Looking through http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/iphone_vs_android_vs_webos_vs_blackbery_vs_windows_mobile_vs_symbian - Nokia are going to have a hit if they remember to advertise Rover having full Flash. | 15:09 |
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| RST38h | It is actually a minor feature though | 15:15 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Seen the people on tmo wanting Flash 10 for their tablets? | 15:16 |
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| Stskeeps | jeremiah_away: hope you get better :) | 15:20 |
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| * lcuk beats up databases | 15:22 | |
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| lcuk | how big are the map databases usually? does the device happily manage 100mb+ sqlite databases? :$ | 15:28 |
| RST38h | qwerty: People on tmo are no indication of anything | 15:29 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | RST38h: shows there's a demand for it though. (Not from me, personally, I always keep it disabled) :) | 15:34 |
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| GeneralAntilles | timelyx, X-Fade, infact. Feel free to suggest an improved option. ;) | 15:35 |
| Macer | well | 15:35 |
| Macer | talk about a pain in the damn ass | 15:35 |
| lcuk | mmmm, what endian order is the arm usually? | 15:35 |
| Macer | i just had to migrate my fileserver's home dir | 15:35 |
| Macer | to its raid from the rpool | 15:35 |
| GeneralAntilles | lcuk, armel. | 15:36 |
| Macer | talk about something you should have thought about BEFORE you installed | 15:36 |
| lcuk | that doesnt tell me the endianness | 15:36 |
| Macer | little | 15:36 |
| Macer | little big | 15:36 |
| lcuk | damn, so that explains why my png memory function wasnt working :D | 15:36 |
| Macer | no i'm just joking | 15:36 |
| GeneralAntilles | Advanced RISC Machine Endian Little | 15:36 |
| Macer | i have no idea | 15:36 |
| lcuk | mmm thats confusing lol | 15:36 |
| lcuk | ooooh GeneralAntilles... now it does! | 15:37 |
| lcuk | you are a * thanks | 15:37 |
| Macer | but i would assume an arm is little | 15:37 |
| Macer | heh | 15:37 |
| GeneralAntilles | It can be either | 15:37 |
| * lcuk facepalms | 15:37 | |
| GeneralAntilles | But we happen to be little here. | 15:37 |
| lcuk | im trying to read png data without saving to an explicit file | 15:37 |
| * lcuk filled up all memory space :$ | 15:38 | |
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| lcuk | it wasnt endianness | 16:08 |
| lcuk | it helps if i add the required offset into the memory structure for reading a particular block | 16:08 |
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| * rkirti|away wonders what "herring" packages are ...... | 16:12 | |
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| Stskeeps | sardine ? | 16:12 |
| rkirti | Stskeeps: /me doesnt know much about sardine except its some bleeding-edge distro for devels to build against | 16:14 |
| rkirti | some packages are missing from fremantle after beta2 upgrade...osso-gwconnect for instance | 16:15 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, they no longer depend on it | 16:16 |
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| GAN800 | rkirti, Sardine stopped being updated a looong time ago, so the whole bleeding edge thing is a mostly a myth. ;) | 16:22 |
| rkirti | GAN800: :-) | 16:23 |
| GAN800 | Herring was the stable dev branch, I believe. | 16:27 |
| GAN800 | Either way, the fish are dead. | 16:27 |
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| Macer | awesome | 16:34 |
| Macer | got the home automounter working between my fileserver and client :) | 16:34 |
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| lcuk | do labels in gtk NEED a background color, or can they be drawn transparent (im used to vb with opaque and transparent | 16:35 |
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| Macer | OK | 16:46 |
| Macer | MER DEVELOPERS! | 16:47 |
| Macer | stop what you are doing! | 16:47 |
| Macer | stop stop stop! | 16:47 |
| Macer | http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/osarm | 16:47 |
| Macer | U-TURN! use that instead! | 16:47 |
| * Macer grins | 16:47 | |
| locutus | oh dear | 16:48 |
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| Stskeeps | Macer: get it on a sheevaplug and we're talking | 16:49 |
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| Macer | lol! | 16:49 |
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| Macer | This release support NEC Electronics's NaviEngine 1 (NE1). | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | i have no idea wtf that device is | 16:50 |
| Macer | haha | 16:50 |
| Macer | http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/osarm/200805/relnotes/ | 16:51 |
| Macer | 3. Known Bugs | 16:51 |
| Macer | None. | 16:51 |
| Macer | HAHA | 16:51 |
| Macer | ooook | 16:51 |
| Macer | you will learn that in about a year or so all the time you wasted on making "just another linux distro" when you could have been working on groundbreaking opensolaris on arm works :) | 16:52 |
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| glass | hehe | 16:53 |
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| Macer | showing superior coding on embedded platforms and small n800s .. proving that efficient code and kernels can blow linux out of the water | 16:53 |
| Macer | and instead you're making debian with a new wm :) | 16:53 |
| glass | Macer: yeah that would actually be 'sexy' project | 16:53 |
| Macer | haha | 16:53 |
| Macer | wouldn't it? i mean it already has gtk/gnome stuff | 16:54 |
| glass | Macer: blogofame and gobs of cash from indians | 16:54 |
| glass | yeah | 16:54 |
| Macer | hahahaha | 16:54 |
| Macer | blogofame | 16:54 |
| glass | Macer: a friend uses opensolaris at home for disk server | 16:54 |
| Macer | i do too ;) | 16:54 |
| glass | hehe | 16:54 |
| glass | i hear it's pretty nice | 16:54 |
| Macer | as a matter of fact i just got it to do the automounted home dir | 16:54 |
| Macer | because i kind of screwed up on my dir structure in my ignorance when i installed | 16:55 |
| glass | Macer: out of the blue, would you know if theres a povray port to opensolaris? | 16:55 |
| Macer | and had the home dir on an 80G rpool instead of an 8TB raid :) | 16:55 |
| Macer | OOPS | 16:55 |
| Macer | i don't know what povray is ;) | 16:55 |
| Macer | haha | 16:55 |
| Macer | right now i was going to set up kerberos and nis | 16:55 |
| Macer | just to be old school | 16:55 |
| Macer | and because i dont' feel lke taking the time to rip my hair out using ldap | 16:55 |
| glass | Macer: it's a raytracing program..(theres a free modeller for it too).. i use it to do stuff like this http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3452/3735013696_1a0dd53ed1.jpg?v=0 | 16:56 |
| murrayc | Has anyone heard of this Zoom thing? It looks very beagleboard-esque: http://www.logicpd.com/products/development-kits/texas-instruments-zoom%25E2%2584%25A2-omap34x-ii-mdp | 16:56 |
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| RST38h | moo glass | 16:57 |
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| glass | Macer: opensolaris would be perfect os for the renderbox for toying around.. | 16:58 |
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| Stskeeps | murrayc: think it's a typical development board from TI, https://omapzoom.org/gf/project/omapzoom/wiki/?pagename=WhatIsZoom2 - i think it's rather pricey :) | 16:59 |
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| murrayc | Stskeeps: The price is similar to a BeagleBoard plus a touchscreen plus the other bits and pieces you need. | 16:59 |
| Stskeeps | but for the stuff you get along I guess it's rather cheap | 16:59 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 16:59 |
| murrayc | We might try to get one if DigiKey can't deliver our BeagleBoards. Though I fear being the only people using it. I'd rather have the same problems as other people. | 17:00 |
| murrayc | And DigiKey seem to be the sellers of the Zoom. | 17:00 |
| glass | "Currently SW support for following features are not available on the public git trees due to licensing restrictions:" | 17:00 |
| glass | and then all the fun stuff | 17:00 |
| murrayc | Oh, at least you can put your choice of WLAN USB stick in the beagleboard. | 17:01 |
| murrayc | And "graphics" seems like a big deal. But it must be the same graphics as on the BeagleBoard. | 17:01 |
| murrayc | Right? | 17:01 |
| murrayc | I don't get how video playback is available but graphics isn't. | 17:02 |
| glass | "video playback" | 17:02 |
| glass | is just frames after frames | 17:02 |
| glass | if you can draw to the screen you can do that at some quality | 17:02 |
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| Macer | damn zimbra server jabberd seems lagged to shit | 17:03 |
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| KucukMubasir | what do you think about the Qt port of Maemo, good or batd? | 18:14 |
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| blen2r | hi | 18:15 |
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| blen2r | how would you rate mer's speed vs. neovento (I currently have Neovento on my freerunner but it's quite slow) | 18:17 |
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| Jaffa | blen2r: You might be better asking in #mer; not many people here have freerunners | 18:20 |
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| blen2r | oh ok, thank you | 18:22 |
| blen2r | have a nice day | 18:23 |
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| GAN800 | murrayc, Beagle is probably a better option. Most of the people with Zooms are working for big cellular companies. | 18:27 |
| Luke-Jr | KucukMubasir: depends; GTK and Maemo have always sucked so far; Qt is generally good | 18:27 |
| Luke-Jr | KucukMubasir: so Maeco+Qt = ⁇? | 18:27 |
| Luke-Jr | Maemo* | 18:27 |
| murrayc | GAN800: Yeah. Hopefully the deliver delays will be fixed, though DigiKey refuse to say when that might be. | 18:28 |
| GAN800 | Woo, subjective absolutisms. | 18:28 |
| KucukMubasir | thanks Luke-Jr: what is the right side of it is illigible :) | 18:30 |
| Luke-Jr | KucukMubasir: fix your IRC client ;) | 18:30 |
| Stskeeps | Luke-Jr: .. why on earth using utf-8 for "??", btw? :P | 18:31 |
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| Luke-Jr | Stskeeps: Efficiency ☺ | 18:32 |
| GAN800 | Pfft | 18:32 |
| GAN800 | Jackassery | 18:33 |
| Luke-Jr | GAN800: f u | 18:33 |
| * Stskeeps is reminded of http://www.oreillynet.com/conferences/blog/2006/07/oscon_how_open_source_projects.html | 18:34 | |
| Luke-Jr | Stskeeps: GAN800 started it :þ | 18:36 |
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| Stskeeps | Luke-Jr: pfft. | 18:37 |
| GAN800 | On that note, has anybody gotten around to writing up a wikipedia entry for Mer? | 18:40 |
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| Stskeeps | no, we automatically disqualify ourselves | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:41 |
| Luke-Jr | hmm | 18:42 |
| Luke-Jr | am I disqualified? | 18:42 |
| Luke-Jr | my Mer involvement is limited | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | you're listed as a mer contributor for god knows why, so i would guess so :P | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | also, there's the problem of notability | 18:44 |
| qwerty12_N810 | it will be a plug for Gentoo and how Mer sucks because it currently uses GTK+ | 18:44 |
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| jeremiah_away | /lastlog jeremiah | 18:45 |
| Luke-Jr | qwerty12_N810: Mer isn't GTK+-specific, is it? :þ | 18:45 |
| Luke-Jr | even if the default is | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | ** No messages for jeremiah | 18:45 |
| jeremiah_away | heh | 18:45 |
| jeremiah_away | Yes there are! | 18:45 |
| jeremiah_away | :P | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | jeremiah_away: you holding up alright? | 18:45 |
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| jeremiah | Doing okay - my face is freaky but otherwise alright. :) | 18:46 |
| * Stskeeps is dangerously afraid of forest walks cos of borellia and such :P | 18:46 | |
| jeremiah | Stskeeps: How is Spain? | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | jeremiah: not there yet | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | going on thursday | 18:46 |
| jeremiah | Ah. Fun! | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | Luke-Jr: /connect'd work better.. | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:46 |
| Luke-Jr | :þ | 18:46 |
| jeremiah | How long will you be there for, the weekend? | 18:46 |
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| Stskeeps | jeremiah: 23-31 july | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | we arrive quite late 23th and leave very early 31th | 18:48 |
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| jeremiah | Stskeeps: Whoah - you'll be there nearly all of debconf | 18:48 |
| jeremiah | Cool. | 18:48 |
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| jeremiah | See my friend dam for lunch tickets! | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | well not debcamp | 18:49 |
| jeremiah | oh yeah, just debconf | 18:49 |
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| Stskeeps | and i'll present on the 25th | 18:49 |
| jeremiah | Cool - you're doing the Mer presentation? | 18:50 |
| jeremiah | And will it be video taped? | 18:50 |
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| Stskeeps | nop, don't think so | 18:52 |
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| Stskeeps | except maybe by zenvoid | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | i'll have to ask him :P | 18:52 |
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| jeremiah | The debian-perl group is going to have a video feed for a meeting so I would be surprised if your talk didn't have a feed | 18:52 |
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| GAN800 | Stskeeps, meh, arguably I'd be disqualified from writing about Maemo. | 18:56 |
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| GAN800 | Notability shouldn't be an issue. | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | well, for Mer it would be | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | heck, I had 84% of the RFC1459 market and my project wasn't "notable" | 18:57 |
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| Stskeeps | except it's still there, interesting | 18:57 |
| GAN800 | If somebody objects, then fine. | 18:58 |
| GAN800 | But until then there's little harm in putting up an article. | 18:58 |
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| Macer | http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/06/opensolaris-200906-released-new-arm-port-announced.ars | 19:36 |
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| coldboot | If I `maemo-sdk enter runtime` for arm, with the i386-2007q3 toolchain set, it should run the i386->arm compiler when I run gcc, right? I just want to make sure that this is the case when you're in emulation mode. | 19:50 |
| woglinde | ???? | 19:51 |
| woglinde | you need want emu mode use arm-toolchain | 19:51 |
| woglinde | args | 19:51 |
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| woglinde | you need arm-toolchain for emu mode | 19:51 |
| coldboot | woglinde, what's your primary language? | 19:52 |
| coldboot | Just wondering because I can read French... | 19:52 |
| woglinde | german | 19:53 |
| coldboot | Ah ok, I don't know German. :) | 19:53 |
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| coldboot | Should the linker be running in emulation mode? | 19:59 |
| woglinde | ???? | 19:59 |
| woglinde | its all running automagicly | 19:59 |
| woglinde | with qemu | 19:59 |
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| pinchartl | hi | 20:01 |
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| coldboot | woglinde: But it's running extremely slow when I'm on arm, it should be using the cross-compiler, but just seems to be running the arm compiler in emulation mode. | 20:03 |
| woglinde | args | 20:03 |
| woglinde | right you are doing the pains yourself | 20:03 |
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| woglinde | and running it on the device | 20:03 |
| coldboot | woglinde: No this is in scratchbox 2 | 20:03 |
| woglinde | yepp its using qemu | 20:05 |
| coldboot | I'm saying it should be using the cross compiler, not the arm compiler in emulation. | 20:06 |
| coldboot | It should be using i386->arm instead of arm->arm. | 20:06 |
| coldboot | host->target | 20:06 |
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| woglinde | coldboot hm never saw that this mode is available | 20:08 |
| coldboot | Compiling in arm and i386 should be the same speed, for me it's slow for arm. | 20:09 |
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| jeremiah | Hmmmm -> http://www.qi-hardware.com/ | 20:14 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah.. :P | 20:15 |
| jeremiah | Yeah, that qi think should run Mer | 20:15 |
| jeremiah | :P | 20:15 |
| Stskeeps | MIPS, ick. | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | also, very low ram | 20:17 |
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| woglinde | good bye | 20:21 |
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| xnt14 | ~uncrash lcuk's computer | 20:34 |
| xnt14 | ~fix lcuk's computer | 20:34 |
| * infobot opens the hood of lcuk's computer , looks inside and says "that'll be 500 dollars." | 20:34 | |
| xnt14 | :P | 20:34 |
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| wazd | ok, engadget guys think that mirror reflect light at 90 degrees | 20:55 |
| wazd | are they copypasting from Gizmodo or something? | 20:56 |
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| nomis | ya | 21:00 |
| nomis | eh. | 21:00 |
| nomis | wazd: yay, even with some comments "confirming" that... | 21:01 |
| nomis | "Get a flashlight, go to mirror. Point it at an angle towards the mirror. The light is reflected off by 90 degrees from the angle of the original light beam." | 21:01 |
| nomis | duh :) | 21:01 |
| coldboot | Wow. | 21:01 |
| mgedmin | physics fail | 21:02 |
| coldboot | Did you know that ls always returns 0? Confirmed by doing `ls .; echo $?` | 21:02 |
| mgedmin | 'ls nosuch; echo $?' disproves your theory | 21:03 |
| coldboot | My sarcastic theory, yes. | 21:03 |
| mgedmin | but I suppose it's easier to echo $? than to measure an angle between light beams | 21:04 |
| coldboot | heh | 21:04 |
| mgedmin | especially ones you can't see without filling up the room with smoke | 21:04 |
| coldboot | Where's this article? I'd like to post a comment. | 21:04 |
| nomis | coldboot: http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/20/universal-mirrors-more-useful-less-fun-than-carnival-mirrors/ | 21:05 |
| mgedmin | they're back to old greek philosopher's way of doing science experiments: "it stands to reason" | 21:05 |
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| johnsq | Hi | 21:14 |
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| slonopotamus | johnsq, hello | 21:15 |
| johnsq | slonopotamus: something new? | 21:16 |
| slonopotamus | johnsq, released fb_text2screen and open-wlan-cal. writing libcal replacement. | 21:17 |
| johnsq | slonopotamus: nice. | 21:18 |
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| RST38h | moo all | 21:22 |
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| florian | re | 21:35 |
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| Stskeeps | wb qwerty12_N810 | 21:40 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Thank you | 21:40 |
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| Luke-Jr | I just got ReactOS running on my N810! | 21:47 |
| coldboot | Oh cool | 21:47 |
| Luke-Jr | sweet, WoW is working | 21:47 |
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| jaska | and i see a bunch of pigs with wings flapping outside the window | 21:49 |
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| slonopotamus | Luke-Jr, how's bme going? :P | 21:59 |
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| coldboot | Has anyone got gdb running and breaking functions properly on the device? | 22:33 |
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| RST38h | Apple Approves iPhone App That Promotes School Shootings hehehe | 22:36 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Doom? No, wait... | 22:36 |
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| RST38h | more like Zombies Ate My Neighbors, but way way lamer | 22:38 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: did you see the pedophile finder? | 22:38 |
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| Stskeeps | RST38h: http://www.beststuff.com/fromthewire/audiovideo-news/new-iphone-app-increases-family-safety-provides-sex-offender-information.html | 22:39 |
| Stskeeps | 10 bucks we'll be seeing torches | 22:39 |
| RST38h | ! | 22:39 |
| RST38h | iTorhces | 22:40 |
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| RST38h | ...and a new tactic of "paedophiling" where evil hackers (tm) insert your name into the sex offender database | 22:41 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Yes, it displays a picture of a torch and it can be yours for $999.99! | 22:41 |
| RST38h | that would be a welcome advancement of the "swatting" tactic | 22:41 |
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| RST38h | "A Saudi Arabian man married a Filipino woman as a cover for buying her kidney, trying to circumvent the Philippines' strict new rules to fight organ trafficking" | 22:54 |
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| coldboot | When I run gdb on the device, and run `symbol-file /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4.5.0`, it says "(no debugging symbols found)"... But I compiled libQtGui with -g, why is gdb not finding debug symbols? | 23:02 |
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| johnsq | coldboot: have you tried it on the desktop pcß | 23:04 |
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| coldboot | johnsq: I'm using scratchbox 2 and gdb doesn't work in it at all. | 23:04 |
| johnsq | coldboot: you can test a local desktop application. | 23:05 |
| coldboot | johnsq: What do you mean? | 23:05 |
| johnsq | coldboot: I'm not fit with gdb, but to test the command you can debug a qt application on your pc, to look if the commands are correct. | 23:06 |
| coldboot | johnsq: What commands? | 23:07 |
| johnsq | coldboot: symbol-file fe. | 23:07 |
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