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| pupnik | now we know where to call-in the air-strike | 06:37 |
| xnt14 | :P | 06:42 |
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| xnt14 | ~airstrike NULL | 06:43 |
| xnt14 | ~strike NULL | 06:43 |
| xnt14 | ok w/e | 06:43 |
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| Proteous | Bears, very, large, bears | 07:40 |
| Proteous | that is all | 07:40 |
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| RST38h | EHLO all | 10:50 |
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| Corsac_ | EHLO RST38h | 10:53 |
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| pupnik | i have begun to wear off the silver on my n810 keyboard | 11:53 |
| pupnik | m and o | 11:54 |
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| RST38h | pupnik: a and e still holding up? =) | 12:18 |
| pupnik | yeah, fine | 12:19 |
| pupnik | maybe my right thumb emits acid | 12:19 |
| pupnik | how are you, rsalveti ? | 12:19 |
| pupnik | RST38h, ? | 12:19 |
| RST38h | slow and lazy today | 12:19 |
| pupnik | oh you remind me the shiitake needs to go in the basement...brb | 12:20 |
| Jaffa | Morning, all | 12:21 |
| RST38h | moorning. | 12:21 |
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| RST38h | Chinese Govt Outlaws Gold Farming heheh | 12:24 |
| gomiam | yeah, that's a funny one. Now only the government will be allowed to farm gold | 12:24 |
| gomiam | I'm wondering... has anyone had problems downloading Navicore map files on a N800? | 12:25 |
| pupnik | rely | 12:25 |
| pupnik | surely | 12:25 |
| gomiam | oh, it seems _I_ was the error | 12:26 |
| gomiam | PEBKAC, as usual | 12:26 |
| pupnik | or PEBTAC? | 12:26 |
| gomiam | pupnik: in this case, I have a Bt keyboard ;) | 12:27 |
| pupnik | i forgot the acronym | 12:27 |
| gomiam | so PEBKAC still applies | 12:27 |
| gomiam | :P | 12:27 |
| gomiam | (Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair) | 12:27 |
| pupnik | ahh | 12:27 |
| ukki | morning | 12:27 |
| gomiam | hi ukki | 12:28 |
| pupnik | morning angry stomach | 12:28 |
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| ukki | pupnik: it's not angry anymore | 12:31 |
| the2nd | hi | 12:31 |
| the2nd | does anybody know if gpe-calendar on maemo supports caldav? | 12:32 |
| pupnik | possibly | 12:33 |
| the2nd | there is an option to create an "subcribed" or "published" calendar | 12:34 |
| the2nd | but not both | 12:34 |
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| pupnik | wow, my thinkpad un-died again | 12:39 |
| pupnik | magic | 12:39 |
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| pupnik | wow, i got so happy my back oain receeded | 12:45 |
| pupnik | browserd[4379]: GLIB DEBUG default - memory_low_ind = 0, system_inactivity_ind: 0 | 12:48 |
| pupnik | swap, swap, swap | 12:48 |
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| pupnik | xchat + mytube + mplayer + 2 browser windows >= 128MB | 12:48 |
| pupnik | RST38h, you know hardware, isnt there some low power dram that could be added to tablets for a "fast swap cache"? | 12:50 |
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| pupnik | instead of ram+swap, ram+slowram+swap | 12:51 |
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| lcuk2 | http://liqbase.net/liqbase_net_preview.png | 14:15 |
| lcuk2 | liqbase_net is going live in the next couple of days. | 14:15 |
| lcuk2 | there will be a release of liqbase which includes automatic uploading | 14:16 |
| RST38h | live as in what? =) | 14:16 |
| lcuk2 | syncing back down will follow | 14:16 |
| RST38h | "it's alive! it's alive" thing? =) | 14:16 |
| lcuk2 | yeah :) | 14:16 |
| lcuk2 | at the moment its on my home server and it will be killed instantly | 14:16 |
| lcuk2 | its still very much work in progress, but at least ill never lose another sketch :) | 14:16 |
| lcuk2 | what you dont see there is the reply mechanism and rendering view | 14:17 |
| lcuk2 | on the tablet its expected to use the zooming interface | 14:17 |
| lcuk2 | and very simple mechanics to talk and reply to friends | 14:18 |
| lcuk2 | using sketches notes or photos | 14:18 |
| lcuk2 | RST38h, i stopped waiting to get the tagging working on device, i couldnt find a nice interface in time, so will defer to large format tagging later | 14:19 |
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| RST38h | don't you think that it is time to go from just playing around to releasing a completed app? | 14:20 |
| lcuk2 | and that is what is happening in just a couple of days :) | 14:20 |
| RST38h | mmm.... | 14:20 |
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| lcuk2 | the app has been complete for me for over a year now, ive got the notes i want and am making use of them and remembering everything i want | 14:21 |
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| infobot | I herald you, my supreme master! Lead us into the light of your wisdom and power | 14:34 |
| lardman | infobot: you seen the General arrive hey? | 14:35 |
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| thux | OT ain't atom 270 single core? why then cpuinfo see cpu0 and cpu1? | 14:40 |
| lardman | hyperthreading? | 14:41 |
| thux | could be | 14:42 |
| thux | like old p4 got | 14:42 |
| lardman | yeah, I heard they were going to re-introduce it even on the multi-core chips | 14:43 |
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| thux | ok i see | 14:44 |
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| soap | atom 2xx = single core. | 14:47 |
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| bongo|kup | hi. when i connect my tablet to a network it uses 100% cpu for about 30 or 40 seconds. what can i do to avoid this? | 14:47 |
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| soap | 3xx = dual core. 5xx = single core | 14:48 |
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| infobot | I herald you, my supreme master! Lead us into the light of your wisdom and power | 14:49 |
| lcuk2 | bongo|kup, don't connect to the network! | 14:49 |
| bongo|kup | :P | 14:50 |
| lcuk2 | have you got anything that tries to sync | 14:50 |
| lcuk2 | cos that sounds like a culprit you should be investigating | 14:50 |
| qwerty12_N810 | bongo|kup: as root: /etc/init.d/icd2 stop && icd2 and see what runs when you connect to a network | 14:51 |
| bongo|kup | i tried to disable app manager auto update with gconf and turned email update off .... ok, i'll check this | 14:52 |
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| infobot | I herald you, my supreme master! Lead us into the light of your wisdom and power | 14:55 |
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| infobot | I herald you, my supreme master! Lead us into the light of your wisdom and power | 15:00 |
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| infobot | I herald you, my supreme master! Lead us into the light of your wisdom and power | 15:15 |
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| soap | WTF is up with the "infobot"? | 15:16 |
| lcuk2 | hes worshiping RichiH who keeps leaving and entering | 15:16 |
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| t_s_o | hmm, bug hooked up to n810 by way of serial? | 15:19 |
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| * RST38h ponders the usability of teaching infobot about making sacrifices | 15:21 | |
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| RST38h | As in "kick/ban random user every time RichiH enters" | 15:22 |
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| xnt14 | :P | 15:34 |
| xnt14 | ~seen b-man16 | 15:34 |
| infobot | b-man16 <n=b-man16@cpe-98-30-195-117.woh.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 8h 59m 30s ago, saying: 'i'm back'. | 15:34 |
| xnt14 | :P | 15:34 |
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| RST38h | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JF03i7NfIU&feature=PlayList&p=6BA6C22392906B2C&p%20laynext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=4 | 16:06 |
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| GAN800 | Nice. New flasher for all relevant OSes. | 16:17 |
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| fiferboy | lbt, you around? | 16:19 |
| lbt | yep | 16:19 |
| fiferboy | 4.5.2 with fingerscrolling is really slow too | 16:20 |
| lbt | yes, I'd noticed :( | 16:20 |
| lbt | it's horrible | 16:20 |
| fiferboy | I'm going to double check to make sure I got everything in that patch I made, but I can't really see it working at all if I left something out | 16:20 |
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| fiferboy | lbt: I wonder if the webkit scrolling should be done by patching webkit instead of Qt, like Tear does | 16:24 |
| lbt | I *strongly* suspect there is something wrong with the build | 16:24 |
| lbt | eg the render engine has changed | 16:25 |
| fiferboy | I'll double check to make sure my patch is correct, but I agree with you | 16:25 |
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| fiferboy | raster rendering backend looks borked | 16:31 |
| fiferboy | running "birdlist -graphicssystem raster" results in horrible performace | 16:31 |
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| fiferboy | "birdlist -graphicssystem native" is much better, but not as good as raster used to me | 16:32 |
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| fiferboy | lbt: Try running a program with "-graphicssystem native" and see if it is better | 16:37 |
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| lbt | I'm in Diablo atm with the standard Qt-maemo | 16:39 |
| lbt | and it's not good either | 16:40 |
| fiferboy | Even with native rendering backend? | 16:40 |
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| fiferboy | It is smoother in Diablo for me, but not as good as it used to be | 16:40 |
| lbt | no, not tried native yet | 16:41 |
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| lbt | -graphicssystem native makes a *HUGE* improvement!!! | 16:42 |
| fiferboy | Yeah, raster looks like it has a problem | 16:42 |
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| VDVsx | hahah, a lot of buzz around the name of the new network manager thing, lolol | 16:45 |
| lbt | fiferboy: that's odd... after I ran "-graphicssystem native" it was good | 16:49 |
| lbt | then running it with no args is good too | 16:49 |
| fiferboy | It seems to use the last graphicssystem until another argument call | 16:50 |
| Macer | my bloody valentine cracks me up | 16:50 |
| Macer | hahaha | 16:50 |
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| lbt | -graphicssystem raster is good too... | 16:51 |
| lbt | opengl isn't found | 16:51 |
| fiferboy | Better than native? | 16:51 |
| fiferboy | raster is still choppy for me | 16:52 |
| fiferboy | Running with no argument is also choppy for me | 16:53 |
| lbt | native is possibly better | 16:53 |
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| toggles_w | q | 17:01 |
| toggles_w | q | 17:01 |
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| N810-013-Tilburg | hey everyone | 17:43 |
| X-Fade | Hi N810-013-Tilburg. | 17:43 |
| N810-013-Tilburg | ive just bought an nokia n810 | 17:43 |
| N810-013-Tilburg | hu X-Fade | 17:43 |
| N810-013-Tilburg | do you have any experience with the N810 | 17:44 |
| X-Fade | N810-013-Tilburg: Then you are the second one with a N810 in Tilburg ;) | 17:44 |
| N810-013-Tilburg | ow:P | 17:44 |
| N810-013-Tilburg | more NL people arround here then:D | 17:44 |
| X-Fade | A few. | 17:44 |
| N810-013-Tilburg | aha | 17:45 |
| N810-013-Tilburg | i think i will receive my n810 in about 2 days. because i have just ordered it via the internet | 17:46 |
| N810-013-Tilburg | i can wait :P lol | 17:47 |
| X-Fade | Heh. You've waited for a long time, so .. | 17:47 |
| N810-013-Tilburg | yeah itindeed | 17:49 |
| N810-013-Tilburg | i must go | 17:49 |
| N810-013-Tilburg | see you | 17:49 |
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| Razumihin | Hilarious :) | 17:51 |
| * RST38h yawns | 17:55 | |
| * toggles_w stretches | 17:56 | |
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| RST38h | "Peter Sunde told Torrent Freak that they are indeed closing down TPB's tracker and decentralizing to the point listed torrents won't be hosted on the site anymore." | 17:57 |
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| RST38h | Funny what $8m can do... | 17:58 |
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| slonopotamus | Stskeeps, hello :) i finished alphabet | 18:04 |
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| slonopotamus | anyone has ideas how to most easily implement -H/-V options of text2screen | 18:07 |
| slonopotamus | ? | 18:07 |
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| slonopotamus | i see. | 18:13 |
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| xnt14 | #include <stdio.h> int main() { printf("Hello World!"); return 0; } | 18:47 |
| xnt14 | :P | 18:47 |
| RST38h | *(void *)0=0; | 18:48 |
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| RST38h | FireFox 3.5 is out! | 18:57 |
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| _berto_ | RST38h: the definitive weapon: http://5.media.tumblr.com/yS8gPi2Zln2nqznte8xAYujio1_400.jpg | 19:02 |
| RST38h | berto: I wonder what stopped them from using a poster from the well known SNES game =) | 19:03 |
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| _berto_ | there was a firefox game? i remember starfox/starwing | 19:03 |
| RST38h | Starfox, yes | 19:04 |
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| RST38h | Hmm...I already see some problems. Video does not play until completely loaded | 19:07 |
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| RST38h | And do I understand it correctly that OGG is now the standard for web video/audio? | 19:07 |
| caotic | Do anyone knows if the n810 supports 16 GB microSD cards ? | 19:10 |
| bef0rd | I think so caotic | 19:10 |
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| RST38h | caotic: It should. | 19:10 |
| caotic | I see | 19:10 |
| caotic | I hope, drooling at the idea :P | 19:11 |
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| wjs_ltop | Hello, does anybody know where I can get the cdc_acm kernel module for diablo (2.6.21-omap1)? | 19:16 |
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| toggles_w | anyone know how to tether to a pc via bt for internet? even usb would probably do.. | 19:17 |
| lbt | usb is covered in the wiki | 19:17 |
| toggles_w | lbt: thanks | 19:17 |
| lbt | BT is a PAN thing ... I want to do it but haven't :) | 19:18 |
| toggles_w | bt would be cooler | 19:18 |
| toggles_w | ;-) | 19:18 |
| * lbt nods | 19:18 | |
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| lbt | do you mean a linux PC/laptop ? | 19:18 |
| toggles_w | lbt: yeah, ubuntu | 19:18 |
| lbt | well, I do the USB thing from time to time... I use bridging | 19:19 |
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| toggles_w | im searching the wiki for it | 19:19 |
| lbt | http://pastebin.com/m131fc4d | 19:19 |
| lbt | in /etc/network/interfaces | 19:19 |
| lbt | missed br0..... http://pastebin.com/m4dd06749 | 19:20 |
| toggles_w | lbt: on the n8x0 or desktop? | 19:21 |
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| lbt | desktop.... | 19:21 |
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| lbt | hmm, actually looking at that I don't use bridging anymore do I :) | 19:21 |
| toggles_w | lbt: thanks | 19:21 |
| lbt | find the wiki page too | 19:21 |
| lbt | IIRC you need to boot Mer holding down a key | 19:21 |
| lbt | and then select usb host mode | 19:22 |
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| toggles_w | lbt: oh, yeh, that's automatich, I do that all the time, i was thinkgin more diablo | 19:22 |
| lbt | you can do it live via rmmod/modprobe but I don't know which and never bothered | 19:22 |
| toggles_w | automatic | 19:22 |
| lbt | oh, I'm in #maemo :) | 19:23 |
| toggles_w | ;-) | 19:24 |
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| lopz | hi | 19:34 |
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| wjs_ltop | Hello, does anybody know where I can get the cdc_acm kernel module for diablo (2.6.21-omap1)? | 20:30 |
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| RST38h | azerty | 20:57 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | fvt38h | 20:58 |
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| RST38h | no such opcode but you can use 30h =) | 20:59 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | :P | 21:01 |
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| johnsq | Hi | 21:05 |
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| TTilus | should i expect google maps, bing maps, or any alike to work with os2008 browser? | 21:08 |
| TTilus | it seems as if they dont | 21:08 |
| aquatix | google maps should work | 21:09 |
| aquatix | it did here | 21:09 |
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| TTilus | im trying maps.google.fi, it loads fine except that the map area stays gray | 21:11 |
| TTilus | (and its darn small) | 21:12 |
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| wjs_ltop | qwerty12_N810: I was just rereading the thread on kismet.. I have a version kismet_2008-05-R1_armel.deb, but I'm still not able to post, are you interested in it? | 21:27 |
| qwerty12_N810 | wjs_ltop: Thank you very much, but the source and the deb was uploaded by another person who happened to have it. :) | 21:29 |
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| wjs_ltop | Ok, I'm just confused about a 2007 version verses a 2008 version. I don't remember where I got the 2008 version from though. | 21:30 |
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| wjs_ltop | Well, since nobody knows where I can get the cdc_acm module.. Does anybody have a SDK env setup where they could compile it quickly for me? please? | 21:31 |
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| z4chh | why do programs like advanced backlight use dmse library functions to update brightness level? | 21:33 |
| z4chh | dsme ^^ | 21:33 |
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| slonopotamus | z4chh, instead of what? | 21:34 |
| johnsq | kernel sys filesystem | 21:34 |
| z4chh | /sys/devices/platform/omapfb/panel/backlight_level | 21:34 |
| slonopotamus | because they looked how original applet does it and did the same way? | 21:35 |
| johnsq | z4chh: perhaps no user permissions. | 21:35 |
| slonopotamus | ah, that's too | 21:35 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Because dsme will reset the backlight to what it set it to anyway | 21:35 |
| z4chh | eh? | 21:36 |
| z4chh | i noticed | 21:36 |
| z4chh | if i used like nano to edit backlight_level ...it changes it for like 2 seconds and goes back to the brightness it was | 21:36 |
| slonopotamus | nano?! oh my :) | 21:37 |
| * slonopotamus prefers cat for such tricks | 21:37 | |
| * johnsq uses echo | 21:37 | |
| slonopotamus | echo, i meant | 21:37 |
| slonopotamus | cat to read, echho to set | 21:37 |
| z4chh | blah i always forget which way the >> << goes | 21:37 |
| z4chh | ;p | 21:38 |
| slonopotamus | > in, < out. just remember it :) | 21:38 |
| z4chh | echo 100 > /sys/devices/platform/omapfb/panel/backlight_level | 21:39 |
| z4chh | ? | 21:39 |
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| * qwerty12_N810 wrote shitty code to enable writing to a file in /proc. Because I never checked for \n, I ended up doing count-1 which worked when writing with echo but writing with printf cut off a char. :P | 21:39 | |
| johnsq | z4chh: yes you should lern forth > is to | 21:39 |
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| z4chh | so yeah i edit the integer in that file...the brightness gets set to that for like 1-2 seconds...then it reverts to the brightness i configured with like a status bar widget (e.g. advanced backlight) | 21:40 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | z4chh: fanoush's blset ( http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/blset ) may give inspiration but keep in mind that it was intended for use with a kernel patch of his | 21:43 |
| z4chh | thanks | 21:44 |
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| johnsq | i have seen a kernel which supports the n810 slideout keyboard, but didn't find it again. any idea what it was? | 21:49 |
| johnsq | support = FN sticky stuff in kernel space. | 21:50 |
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| johnsq | this http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-omap@vger.kernel.org/msg01343.html | 21:58 |
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| tds5016 | hello all. I have a bit of a problem. | 22:11 |
| tds5016 | I am trying to go from chinook to maemo... | 22:11 |
| tds5016 | I've downloaded the automatic updater, but when I try to go into update mode, the connection fails. | 22:11 |
| tds5016 | it just boots into the os. | 22:11 |
| tds5016 | even after the usb symbol shows up in the right hand corner. | 22:11 |
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| GAN800 | ~flashing | 22:19 |
| infobot | [flashing] http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 22:19 |
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| caotic | is there a tab equibalent key in the n810 keyboard ? | 22:24 |
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| johnsq | caotic: CTRL-I | 22:24 |
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| caotic | johnsq: great thanks, | 22:25 |
| caotic | is there a way to reasign this shurtcut, its kinda hard doing that key combination without droping the darn thing :S | 22:25 |
| caotic | actually never mind that, what do you use to query your ip ? ifconfig seems to not be in busybox :P | 22:26 |
| johnsq | caotic: use usb keyboard :9 | 22:27 |
| caotic | lol, that kind of defeates the purpose of having a keyboard :P | 22:27 |
| RST38h | moo all | 22:29 |
| johnsq | caotic: ls -l /mnt/initfs/sbin/ifconfig my bb has it | 22:29 |
| ukki | caotic: /sbin/ifconfig | 22:30 |
| caotic | oh, so is like an obnoxois redhat/fedora/derivates that dont include it in the path by default :P | 22:31 |
| johnsq | caotic: keyboard you need this http://markmail.org/message/uzc3z57njgif6vno but didn't find to which kernel i should apply the patch | 22:31 |
| johnsq | caotic: only root should have it | 22:31 |
| caotic | oh ok, well that is right ... | 22:31 |
| caotic | hehe | 22:32 |
| caotic | how do you root on the n810, sorry to ask so many questions, but I have limited time to play with this gadget right now :P | 22:33 |
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| johnsq | caotic: I use gentoo :) | 22:33 |
| qwerty12_N810 | ~root-access | 22:33 |
| infobot | hmm... root-access is http://wiki.maemo.org/Root_access | 22:33 |
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| RST38h | Night Skies movie sucks. | 22:34 |
| caotic | thanks, qwerty12_N810, i think I would start googling | 22:34 |
| RST38h | Why would anyone shoot a movie without a decent script, anyway? | 22:34 |
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| johnsq | RST38h: expensive and the people look also the crap | 22:35 |
| qwerty12_N810 | RST38h: the common incentive: $ | 22:35 |
| RST38h | qwerty: why would anyone watch a movie without a script? | 22:37 |
| qwerty12_N810 | They got it from <insert favourite torrent site here>? =) | 22:38 |
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| RST38h | not worth the traffic afaik | 22:39 |
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| * RST38h goes to IMDB to confirm his opinion | 22:40 | |
| johnsq | RST38h: you have payed a ticket | 22:40 |
| RST38h | 4.7/10 ... hmm | 22:40 |
| caotic | I think the worst thing that could ever happend to the n810 (other than being stolen) is to get your wifi card busted :P | 22:40 |
| RST38h | caotic: And how do you achieve that? | 22:40 |
| caotic | dunno, but hardware isnt forever | 22:41 |
| RST38h | johnsq: I haven't been to a movie theater for 1+ year | 22:41 |
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| caotic | should I install (openssh server, openssh client) or just (openssh server client), I mean my question is, are this packages mantained by diferent people teams/people/comunity ? | 22:44 |
| johnsq | caotic: i think they are for different use, only server or client or both | 22:45 |
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| caotic | It was a bad idea to untar php documentation in the n810, its the little guy is getting hotter and hotter | 22:51 |
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| ukki | it's a bad idea for any device | 22:52 |
| javispedro | some people here have tried to compile openoffice -- supernova-like temperatures I assume | 22:52 |
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| javispedro | yes, I'm talking about you :) | 22:52 |
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| caotic | if I would want to compile files like those, how could I compile it in a desktop cpu ? a toolchain is requiered ? | 22:53 |
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| johnsq | development system needed | 22:58 |
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| caotic | alright well thanks for all the help guys, last but not least, is there a n810 exclusive comunity or its pretty much the same ? | 23:01 |
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| timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: ping | 23:20 |
| timeless_mbp | (or anyone here who understands application manager) | 23:20 |
| lbt | he's away this week | 23:20 |
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| Guest1400_559 | when i try to packaging something whit dpkg-buildpackage -tc -rfakeroot...i got this error : fakeroot debian/rules clean /usr/bin/fakeroot: 166: debian/rules: not found dpkg-buildpackage: failure: fakeroot debian/rules clean gave error exit status 127 | 23:25 |
| Guest1400_559 | any clue? | 23:25 |
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| lbt | for that kind of message use a pastebin | 23:26 |
| lbt | sounds like you are missing dpkg-buildpackage | 23:27 |
| Guest1400_559 | how i can install? | 23:27 |
| lbt | or maybe debian/rules | 23:27 |
| lbt | or maybe fakeroot | 23:27 |
| Guest1400_559 | hum | 23:27 |
| lbt | you've pasted a multi-line message all munged up on one line | 23:28 |
| Guest1400_559 | yes | 23:28 |
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| lbt | soyouneedtorunaptgetinstallthemissgingpackage | 23:29 |
| lbt | hard isn't it ;) | 23:29 |
| Guest1400_559 | so here in separate line | 23:29 |
| Guest1400_559 | fakeroot debian/rules clean | 23:29 |
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| lbt | pastebin | 23:29 |
| Guest1400_559 | dpkg-buildpackage: failure: fakeroot debian/rules clean gave error exit status 127 | 23:29 |
| Guest1400_559 | so what i need to install? | 23:31 |
| Guest1400_559 | ? | 23:32 |
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