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| lardman | "morning" all :) | 00:08 |
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| Stskeeps | morning | 00:08 |
| Stskeeps | where you at then? | 00:08 |
| lardman | oh, in the UK, but thought I'd stick with UGT | 00:08 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 00:08 |
| RST38h | moorning lardman | 00:08 |
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| Stskeeps | thought you were on holidays | 00:08 |
| RST38h | although I am going to bed | 00:09 |
| lardman | yeah honeymoon, got back earlier today | 00:09 |
| RST38h | ah | 00:09 |
| lardman | night night RST38h | 00:09 |
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| Stskeeps | lardman: had a good one then? | 00:12 |
| lardman | yep, was nice | 00:12 |
| lcuk | lardman, \o congrats again :) and welcome back | 00:13 |
| lardman | thanks lcuk | 00:13 |
| lardman | so anything happened in the last couple of weeks? | 00:13 |
| * lardman looks through the ml posts and doesn't see anything very exciting in the titles | 00:14 | |
| lcuk | theres a couple of things on planet which might be of interest | 00:14 |
| Stskeeps | look at Talk/Community | 00:14 |
| lcuk | brainstorm went live | 00:14 |
| lcuk | and there was something from murrayc about gtk/qt stuff thats sparked quite a bit of debate | 00:15 |
| GAN800 | RST38h, latest WebKit. | 00:15 |
| GAN800 | RST38h, clearly this argument is mostly emotional, though. | 00:16 |
| GAN800 | Welcome back, lardman. :) | 00:16 |
| * lardman peruses the News pages | 00:16 | |
| lardman | thanks GAN800 | 00:16 |
| lcuk | lardman, i am also bald | 00:17 |
| lcuk | i went through a grey spot | 00:17 |
| lcuk | then it totally fell out | 00:17 |
| lardman | hmm | 00:17 |
| lardman | stress? | 00:17 |
| lcuk | uh huh | 00:17 |
| lcuk | i did battle with gnu on one side and debian on the other | 00:17 |
| lcuk | i lost badly | 00:17 |
| lcuk | like a 25 man raid on my own | 00:18 |
| lcuk | but its all bad in shape now i think | 00:18 |
| lcuk | i just ironed out the last niggle i believe | 00:18 |
| * lardman has had 6 hours sleep in the last 2 days and is getting a bit confused | 00:18 | |
| lardman | nothing new ;) | 00:18 |
| lcuk | yeah | 00:18 |
| lardman | (the confusion that is!) | 00:18 |
| lcuk | heh | 00:18 |
| lardman | so, has the n900 been released yet...? ;) | 00:19 |
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| Stskeeps | not yet | 00:19 |
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| lardman | :( | 00:20 |
| lcuk | you shouldv put your wedding on hold | 00:20 |
| lardman | lol, and come to the hack-a-thon? | 00:20 |
| lcuk | we got to play with omap3 form factor prototype devkit devices in copenhagen :P | 00:20 |
| lardman | ah yes, I read a bit about that before I left, sounds cool | 00:21 |
| lcuk | yeah was v cool :) | 00:21 |
| lcuk | met loads of great ppl | 00:21 |
| lardman | made your hair fall out...? | 00:21 |
| lcuk | :) that was afterwards | 00:22 |
| lcuk | i had a minor calamity on the way home from cph actually, memory card went corrupt | 00:22 |
| lardman | ah, withdrawl symptoms | 00:22 |
| lcuk | almost lost all my sketches from the weekend | 00:22 |
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| lardman | ah, I seem to remember reading that | 00:22 |
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| lcuk | nahhh simon, trying to get packages together for the library and playgroundf | 00:22 |
| lardman | but you recovered most of them didn't you? | 00:23 |
| lcuk | yeah every one :) right up to seconds before it went corrupt | 00:23 |
| lcuk | i even recovered the console history at the point it died | 00:23 |
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| plastun | hello | 00:23 |
| plastun | does anybody kniw, how to rotate widgtes in maemo? | 00:23 |
| lcuk | "mb /media/mmc1/_apg/2008* /media/mmc1/_apg/2008 | 00:23 |
| lcuk | mv ^ | 00:23 |
| lardman | I've got a memory card reader which won't read cards larger than 2Gb, I've almost binned a whole card of holiday photos before trying it in my n800 | 00:24 |
| lcuk | plastun, rotated the widgets? | 00:24 |
| plastun | yes | 00:24 |
| lcuk | you can rotate x11 but YMMV | 00:24 |
| lcuk | thats whole system rotation | 00:24 |
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| lcuk | i wasnt aware you could just rotate specific widgets | 00:24 |
| plastun | for example, I want to design my prohram not in landscape view, i want portrait | 00:24 |
| * lcuk would like to try that trick oneday | 00:24 | |
| lcuk | i dunno plastun | 00:25 |
| lcuk | xranr will allow system global changes | 00:25 |
| lcuk | xrandr | 00:26 |
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| plastun | it applys changes for one program or for hole system. | 00:27 |
| plastun | ? | 00:27 |
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| xnt14 | http://xceleo.org/sc/ :P | 00:43 |
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| lardman | bed time, night all | 00:59 |
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| xnt14 | on a side-note: http://twitter.com/faheemp/status/1023216185 | 01:01 |
| xnt14 | :P | 01:01 |
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| * xnt14 gives up and proceeds to back up his nit and reflash | 01:02 | |
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| xnt14 | hello, qwerty :) | 01:13 |
| qwerty12_N810 | hey xnt14 | 01:14 |
| xnt14 | :) | 01:14 |
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| xnt14 | ~seen | 02:03 |
| xnt14 | ~seen b-man16 | 02:04 |
| infobot | b-man16 <n=b-man@cpe-98-30-195-117.woh.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 19h 34m 15s ago, saying: 'it gets annoying'. | 02:04 |
| xnt14 | :P | 02:04 |
| xnt14 | damnit, where the hell is b-man? I need apache :P | 02:04 |
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| * xnt14 is so freaking bored, nothing to code, and noone to talk to :P | 02:29 | |
| xnt14 | aand, | 02:29 |
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| * Stskeeps is still awake but crashing soon | 02:30 | |
| * xnt14 is getting 18 connections to his router atm | 02:30 | |
| Stskeeps | need a OK from my server that the data is fine and safe | 02:30 |
| xnt14 | :) | 02:30 |
| xnt14 | lets hope that all the data is there | 02:30 |
| * xnt14 installs movable type on his site replacing wordpress | 02:31 | |
| xnt14 | I tested it on my dad's site, awesome, fast, and sleek interface | 02:31 |
| xnt14 | but it needs more themes :P | 02:31 |
| Stskeeps | you're 14, btw? :P | 02:32 |
| xnt14 | yup :P | 02:32 |
| xnt14 | Stskeeps, where is tspre hosted? | 02:32 |
| Stskeeps | i'd say in a wwii bunker because that's not too far from the truth.. | 02:32 |
| xnt14 | :P | 02:33 |
| Stskeeps | well good to see i'm not the only one messed up at 14 regarding coding and so on | 02:33 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 02:33 |
| xnt14 | lol | 02:33 |
| * Stskeeps has been coding since he was 6 | 02:33 | |
| xnt14 | here, they block port 80 outgoing on home connections, so my 5/20 connection is sorta useless for hosting | 02:33 |
| Stskeeps | heh | 02:34 |
| * xnt14 has been coding since he was 7 (batch/playing around with visual studio, then linux bash later), and using linux since he was 9 | 02:34 | |
| xnt14 | :P | 02:34 |
| * xnt14 learned how to use the terminal on day 2 of using linux :P | 02:35 | |
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| xnt14 | mainly, because I wrote batch programs on my old dos machine and was used to the cli | 02:35 |
| xnt14 | but I freaked out when I saw that dir didn't work :P | 02:36 |
| xnt14 | then I learned about ls | 02:36 |
| xnt14 | xD | 02:36 |
| GeneralAntilles | ukki, nicely mischaracterized. :) | 02:37 |
| xnt14 | GA, | 02:37 |
| * xnt14 was stuck in a windows world until he was 8 | 02:38 | |
| xnt14 | :P | 02:38 |
| xnt14 | then I learned linux | 02:38 |
| Stskeeps | heh, i grew up with ms-dos and SINIX. | 02:38 |
| * xnt14 notices that tspre.org show a "it works" message, :P, make it redirect to trac.tspre.org | 02:38 | |
| GeneralAntilles | Mac OS since forever. | 02:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | This Samsung 2343BWX is glorious. | 02:39 |
| Jucato | a bit of emergency help: I've been dual booting on the N810 for quite some time now, but yesterday it decided not to boot into the internal card and I can't really figure out what I did that would have caused that. anyway, I enabled showing boot messages and it turns out it's getting a kernel panic. but before the kernel panic line, it says that /usr/sbin/chroot can't be found. I've checked everywhere and chroot is in the right place | 02:39 |
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| * qwerty12_N810 's first computer ran Windows ME. I was an unlucky bastard. | 02:39 | |
| Stskeeps | xnt14: uh.. | 02:39 |
| Stskeeps | xnt14: that is the trac one :P | 02:40 |
| xnt14 | :P | 02:40 |
| Jucato | qwerty12_N810: compared to Win 3.1 being my first? :) | 02:40 |
| xnt14 | oh nvm | 02:40 |
| xnt14 | its back now | 02:40 |
| * GeneralAntilles had these nuts in the store today: http://www.centerforinquiry.net/tampa | 02:40 | |
| qwerty12_N810 | Jucato: Surely 3.1 was more stable :P | 02:40 |
| Jucato | oh right... ME... | 02:41 |
| GeneralAntilles | "Hello, we're socially inept people who think we're more intelligent than everyone else." | 02:41 |
| Jucato | Messed-up Edition | 02:41 |
| xnt14 | os cycle: Win 2000 > DOS (learned it then) > win xp > fedora core > windows xp (games) > fedora > ubuntu feisty > ubuntu intrepid > debian (server) | 02:41 |
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| * Stskeeps heads to bed | 02:42 | |
| * Jucato can't really figure out what to do with his kernel panic issue :( | 02:42 | |
| qwerty12_N810 | Jucato: /bin/busybox exists? | 02:43 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | night Stskeeps | 02:43 |
| Jucato | qwerty12_N810: yep. | 02:44 |
| Jucato | of I forgot to note that I can still boot into the original internal flash | 02:44 |
| Jucato | not just the internal card (immc2) | 02:44 |
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| Jucato | I wouldn't mind "reflashing" that dual boot except that I've already installed and configured so much >.< | 02:46 |
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| Jucato | (but I've already copied my $HOME for safe-keeping...) | 02:46 |
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| Luke-Jr_ | preferences: Gentoo > Debian > Kubuntu > Maemo > Ubuntu,Mandriva,SuSE > Fedora > Mac OS X > Win2k > WinXP > Win98 > Win3.11 > WinME > Vista > Mac OS 9 | 02:50 |
| xnt14 | Success: http://xceleo.org/blog/ :) | 02:53 |
| xnt14 | Luke-Jr_ :P | 02:54 |
| Luke-Jr_ | no u | 02:54 |
| xnt14 | nevermind | 02:54 |
| * xnt14 runs gentoo on his fileserver :P btw, so don't kill me :P | 02:54 | |
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| xnt14 | fileserver: gentoo main server: debian workstation(xps): ubuntu(with xfce and kde nightly installed for testing), and ps3: linux/gameos | 02:56 |
| Luke-Jr_ | Welcome to my new blog powered by Movable Type. This is the first post on my blog and was created for me automatically when I finished the installation process. But that is ok, because I will soon be creating posts of my own! | 02:56 |
| Luke-Jr_ | DO IT | 02:56 |
| xnt14 | xD | 02:56 |
| * xnt14 *just* installed it lol | 02:56 | |
| Luke-Jr_ | no excuses | 02:56 |
| Luke-Jr_ | xnt14: Movable Type also created a comment for me as well read more | 02:57 |
| Luke-Jr_ | lulz | 02:57 |
| xnt14 | xD | 02:57 |
| xnt14 | luke-jr_ what browser are you using atm? midori? | 02:57 |
| Luke-Jr_ | xnt14: Konqueror | 02:58 |
| xnt14 | oh :P k | 02:58 |
| Luke-Jr_ | xnt14: do this | 02:58 |
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| * xnt14 doesn't like the feel of konquerer | 02:58 | |
| xnt14 | *ror | 02:58 |
| Luke-Jr_ | xnt14: echo -e 'RewriteEngine On\nRewriteRule ^/?$ /blog/ [R=301]' > /var/www/…/.htaccess | 02:59 |
| Luke-Jr_ | xnt14: then thou failest | 02:59 |
| xnt14 | on a sidenote: http://xceleo.org/unity/ | 02:59 |
| xnt14 | :P | 02:59 |
| Luke-Jr_ | projects named Unity are doomed to failure | 02:59 |
| xnt14 | well first I made a project named unision(server suite/services) then looked for a name for client side :P | 03:00 |
| xnt14 | w/e | 03:00 |
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| xnt14 | brb, im going downstairs to the lab to grab an old server to put on my extra spot on my desk | 03:12 |
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| Firebird | well thats lame... nokia repair left a loose screw on my tablet | 03:13 |
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| Macer | damn i hate laundry | 03:45 |
| Macer | i need a slave or something | 03:46 |
| Macer | they should force all white collar convicts into servitude | 03:46 |
| Macer | the constitution allows for slavery if someone has been convicted | 03:46 |
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| xnt14 | im back | 04:10 |
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| * xnt14 dies of boredom | 04:31 | |
| * xnt14 throws his webserver out his window, then he realizes that he can't throw a server thats in california xD | 04:32 | |
| xnt14 | stupid admin, screwed up perms on my htaccess file | 04:33 |
| xnt14 | or rather stupid apache | 04:33 |
| xnt14 | ah well | 04:33 |
| * xnt14 reuploads his site | 04:33 | |
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| Macer | weeeeeeeeeee | 05:27 |
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| b-man16 | ~seen xnt14 | 06:13 |
| infobot | xnt14 is currently on #maemo (1d 12h 12m 17s). Has said a total of 243 messages. Is idling for 1h 39m 51s, last said: 'ah well'. | 06:13 |
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| xnt14 | ~seen b-man16 | 06:41 |
| infobot | b-man16 is currently on #maemo (30m 59s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 28m 14s, last said: '~seen xnt14'. | 06:41 |
| xnt14 | lol | 06:41 |
| * xnt14 thinks that b-man has fallen asleep or something :P | 06:42 | |
| xnt14 | ~wakeup b-man16 | 06:42 |
| xnt14 | ~wake b-man16 | 06:43 |
| * b-man16 wakes up | 06:47 | |
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| Luke-Jr_ | … | 06:54 |
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| xnt14 | lol | 07:01 |
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| xnt14 | -_- | 07:07 |
| xnt14 | w/e | 07:07 |
| Luke-Jr_ | xnt14: -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- | 07:07 |
| xnt14 | ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ | 07:08 |
| Luke-Jr_ | NOONE IS AMUSED | 07:08 |
| xnt14 | ok enough spam | 07:08 |
| xnt14 | its not useful | 07:08 |
| Luke-Jr_ | xnt14: want me to curse your BME so it eats you alive? | 07:08 |
| xnt14 | BME? | 07:08 |
| Luke-Jr_ | mwahaha | 07:08 |
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| xnt14 | lol | 07:09 |
| xnt14 | </sarcasm> | 07:09 |
| Luke-Jr_ | xnt14: pidof bme_rx-34 | 07:09 |
| Luke-Jr_ | xnt14: pidof bme_RX-34 | 07:09 |
| * xnt14 doesn't own a rx-34 | 07:09 | |
| Luke-Jr_ | RX-44 then | 07:09 |
| xnt14 | output blank | 07:10 |
| xnt14 | http://xceleo.org/pastes/bme_rx44 | 07:12 |
| xnt14 | :P | 07:12 |
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| Luke-Jr_ | xnt14: dare you to kill it | 07:14 |
| xnt14 | nah | 07:15 |
| Luke-Jr_ | video it too | 07:16 |
| Luke-Jr_ | so we can see your handheld explode | 07:16 |
| b-man16 | lol | 07:16 |
| xnt14 | rofl | 07:17 |
| b-man16 | Luke-Jr_: i got a traffic light today xD | 07:17 |
| Luke-Jr_ | …….. | 07:18 |
| * b-man16 puts it in his room | 07:18 | |
| * xnt14 runs ssh -l luke-jr 2002:46bb:1a76:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d killall bme_RX-44 | 07:18 | |
| * xnt14 wants a traffic light.... | 07:18 | |
| b-man16 | lol | 07:18 |
| * xnt14 would stick a router in it for fun :P | 07:18 | |
| xnt14 | lol | 07:18 |
| xnt14 | look at his hostmask, either a cloaked mask, or he is using ipv6 | 07:19 |
| Luke-Jr_ | xnt14: I don't IRC from my handheld | 07:19 |
| Luke-Jr_ | IPv6 duh | 07:19 |
| b-man16 | it's funny how large theay actually are up close - it's as tall as me xD | 07:20 |
| xnt14 | :P | 07:20 |
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| b-man16 | :P | 07:21 |
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| timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: pong? | 07:23 |
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| Macer | word | 07:30 |
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| * xnt14 is bored | 07:53 | |
| * xnt14 posts the xd.c script his just wrote | 07:53 | |
| xnt14 | http://xceleo.org/xd.c | 07:53 |
| b-man16 | omglol | 07:53 |
| b-man16 | wget -c http://xceleo.org/xd.c && gcc xd.c -o xd && ./xd | 07:54 |
| xnt14 | b-man, it even works on dreamhost :P | 07:56 |
| b-man16 | lol | 07:56 |
| xnt14 | dh has gcc on it | 07:56 |
| xnt14 | :P | 07:56 |
| b-man16 | i know | 07:56 |
| xnt14 | but dh is x86_64 | 07:56 |
| xnt14 | :P | 07:56 |
| b-man16 | go on to my site and run ./hello ;) | 07:57 |
| xnt14 | :) | 07:57 |
| xnt14 | xD | 07:58 |
| xnt14 | whats the point of that? :P | 07:58 |
| b-man16 | yeah xD | 07:58 |
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| b-man16 | just for fun | 07:59 |
| xnt14 | its a bin file :P | 07:59 |
| Luke-Jr_ | xnt14: FAIL | 07:59 |
| Luke-Jr_ | printf abuser! | 07:59 |
| xnt14 | Luke-Jr_, tell me a better way to do it then? | 07:59 |
| Luke-Jr_ | puts | 07:59 |
| xnt14 | ok | 07:59 |
| Luke-Jr_ | technically, GCC is changing all your printf to puts anyway | 07:59 |
| Luke-Jr_ | but that's beside the point | 07:59 |
| xnt14 | ok whatever :P | 08:00 |
| xnt14 | Luke-Jr_, do you mind if I post xd.c on #anime? | 08:03 |
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| timeless_mbp | luke-jr: isn't that more glibc? :) | 08:13 |
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| Luke-Jr_ | timeless_mbp: glibc might include the mapping, but GCC actually does it :þ | 08:48 |
| timeless_mbp | ... | 08:49 |
| xnt14 | ok guys, I have to go to sleep -.- | 08:59 |
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| RST38h | <yawn> | 09:39 |
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| lardman | morning | 11:00 |
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| robink | Which tools do I use to compile code for the DSP on the OMAP3530? | 11:12 |
| robink | Do I want the ti_cgt_c6000_6.1.10_setup_linux_x86.bin? | 11:13 |
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| Jaffa | Morning | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | morning | 11:15 |
| * Stskeeps plays with pulseaudio and omap2 dsp | 11:15 | |
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| lardman | Stskeeps: good stuff, how is it going? | 11:19 |
| timeless_mbp | hi Stskeeps | 11:19 |
| Stskeeps | lardman: think toggles_w has actually managed to get elmarco's patch working | 11:19 |
| Stskeeps | morning timeless_mbp | 11:19 |
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| lardman | that's the arm-side audio codec driver is it? | 11:20 |
| Macer | how well is nokia supporting mer? | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | no, it uses dsp tasks | 11:21 |
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| Macer | i mean. do they hold back code or anything? | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: i'm not complaining at the support given so far | 11:21 |
| lardman | oh right, I've not heard of it then, do you have a link? | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | lardman: http://gitorious.org/~elmarco/pulseaudio/pa-work/commit/d92f79b8efe591a4dc184ed803859bcdf7173b46 | 11:21 |
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| Macer | well. thats good. | 11:21 |
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| Stskeeps | Macer: they are reasonable, which is good | 11:21 |
| Macer | make mer for a g1 ;) | 11:22 |
| Macer | with call support haha | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | solca was working on a port for adp1 at some point | 11:22 |
| Macer | wow really? | 11:22 |
| Macer | i would use mer over android if it worked well | 11:22 |
| pupnik | somebody should work on snes, genesis and psx | 11:22 |
| lardman | Stskeeps: nice, thanks | 11:22 |
| pupnik | hey lardman | 11:22 |
| Macer | would be nice to have a full blown linux distro on a g1 | 11:23 |
| lardman | hi pupnik | 11:23 |
| Macer | like an n810 with the modem built in | 11:23 |
| pupnik | thinking about implementing pc speaker chip on dsp | 11:23 |
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| Macer | better gpu than the n8x0 too | 11:23 |
| pupnik | set a frequency, turn on or off - can run async to dosbox core | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: probably with no access to it either | 11:24 |
| Macer | lol. maybe | 11:24 |
| lardman | pupnik: still have the problem that you have to pass the data back to the ARM for output | 11:24 |
| Macer | android is supposed to be pretty open but im not sure how bad htc is with their hardware | 11:24 |
| Macer | would probably attract a lot of ppl if they opened it up | 11:24 |
| pupnik | ok lardman - will save it for the pandora boards | 11:25 |
| pupnik | but it would be a good useful forst step | 11:25 |
| pupnik | so i will try to arrange for this to happen | 11:25 |
| Macer | ah. the little guy is finally going to sleep | 11:26 |
| Macer | i was about to drug him lol | 11:26 |
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| pupnik | i de-recommend that | 11:26 |
| Macer | i was joking haha | 11:26 |
| Macer | i wouldnt do that. i dont mind staying up and playing with him. i have an awesome son | 11:27 |
| pupnik | a good tickling session is a good way to time their tiredness | 11:27 |
| Macer | he isnt one of the annoying kind of kids that you have impulses to shoot in the back of your brain | 11:27 |
| pupnik | hehe | 11:27 |
| Macer | :) | 11:28 |
| pupnik | got gizmo? i want to test it | 11:28 |
| Macer | some kids are like... omg if that kid was mine social services would have to take it away from me | 11:28 |
| pupnik | heh nah. you just gotta assume authority | 11:29 |
| Macer | i saw one 3 yr old run out in the middle of a resturaunt screaming and running in circles like a nut while the mother did nothing | 11:29 |
| pupnik | then they dont get so bad | 11:29 |
| Macer | haha | 11:29 |
| Macer | yeah. im fair but firm with my son | 11:30 |
| Stskeeps | i still believe doomsday will come around because of all the spoiled kids. | 11:30 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:30 |
| Macer | hahaha | 11:30 |
| Macer | ok. he's out. | 11:30 |
| pupnik | my parents let me get away with a lot, but had some firm boundaries. | 11:30 |
| Macer | my father didnt let me get away with shit | 11:31 |
| Macer | haha | 11:31 |
| pupnik | i had permission to set things on fire on the concrete porch | 11:31 |
| pupnik | "as long as anything flammable is far away" | 11:31 |
| pupnik | orgies of destruction | 11:32 |
| pupnik | plus, i felt like the most advanced kid on the block... "*I* can play with fire, and i can keep it under control" | 11:33 |
| pupnik | there is much to be said for a certain permission to be given "conspiratorially" from father to son | 11:35 |
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| timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: did you poke me yesterday? | 11:43 |
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| Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: yeah, was something opensolaris/nexenta related but i solved it :P | 11:44 |
| Stskeeps | my data is fully scrubbed and in good shape :P | 11:44 |
| timeless_mbp | :) | 11:46 |
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| RST38h | Novell kaboom on the horizon | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 11:55 |
| RST38h | Seeling itself in parts | 11:55 |
| RST38h | selling | 11:55 |
| Stskeeps | url? | 11:55 |
| RST38h | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/21/novell_denies_for_sale_research_note/ | 11:56 |
| slonopotamus | i never liked them anyway | 12:06 |
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| pupnik | RST38h, getting a smartq? | 12:06 |
| pupnik | i think it would be a great living room accessory | 12:07 |
| lardman | ~curse Egyptian room cleaners for stealing my Swiss Army knife | 12:15 |
| lardman | infobot: pull your finger out | 12:15 |
| Macer_ | welp | 12:20 |
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| Macer | today is the day | 12:20 |
| Macer | that i wipe nexenta for opensolaris on my server | 12:20 |
| Macer | heh | 12:20 |
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| * Macer just sucks it up and stops doing stuff on it | 12:21 | |
| Macer | damnit. forgot i have to copy my other vbox over | 12:21 |
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| timeless_mbp | Macer: Indiana ? | 12:26 |
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| RST38h | pupnik: I would, if there were an easy way to do it | 12:43 |
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| RST38h | Despite my aversion to having too many gadgets | 12:43 |
| RST38h | 200MB more of logs and I am killing this thing. | 12:44 |
| RST38h | Oh shit it's alive it's alive | 12:45 |
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| tibob | hello | 12:54 |
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| aquatix | morning all | 13:10 |
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| Macer | welp .. time to finally rid myself of nexenta | 13:15 |
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| Stskeeps | heh, i go insane with the original tools | 13:15 |
| RST38h | 55/80R63 | 13:16 |
| RST38h | hehe | 13:16 |
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| wazd | hello maemo | 13:59 |
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| RST38h | hello wazd | 14:01 |
| wazd | I wonder why HP still haven't ressurected Jornada with modern ARMs | 14:02 |
| RST38h | Because PDAs are dead | 14:02 |
| wazd | RST38h: well, Jornada wasn't so P da :) | 14:03 |
| wazd | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/06/6-19-09preupdate.jpg <- epic design fail from Palm - blurred link underline | 14:04 |
| RST38h | Well, it fell into PDA class in its time | 14:04 |
| RST38h | HP still produces HPaqs, so they have not quite "quit"... | 14:05 |
| wazd | RST38h: I think with modern CPU power and 3G it can rock the business world | 14:05 |
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| RST38h | wazd: It won't | 14:06 |
| RST38h | wazd: If it looks like a laptop, it has to run WIndows. | 14:06 |
| RST38h | No Windows ==> no success | 14:06 |
| wazd | RST38h: maybe :( | 14:07 |
| RST38h | Nokia Communicators have not managed to rock business worlds after all | 14:07 |
| RST38h | Blackberry has though. | 14:07 |
| mavhc | interesting theory | 14:11 |
| glass | hehe | 14:11 |
| glass | communicators have sold pretty ok | 14:11 |
| glass | even my mom has one haha | 14:12 |
| glass | 9300i | 14:12 |
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| mavhc | RST38h: how do you account for macs? | 14:16 |
| EdLin | last time I checked Nokia actually had the largest percentage of the smartphone market. | 14:16 |
| EdLin | but much of their products are sold outside of the US | 14:16 |
| EdLin | Symbian is a much bigger platform than Blackberry or iPhone, of course, Nokia keeps making each version incompatible so it's really several platforms with a fragmented developer base. | 14:17 |
| mavhc | not only nokia | 14:18 |
| EdLin | right, there's some Sony Ericson and other Symbian phones. | 14:18 |
| EdLin | Nokia by far is the biggest maker of Symbian phones though. | 14:19 |
| mavhc | android and webos are based on linux, iphone on bsd, what about blackberry os? | 14:20 |
| EdLin | proprietary | 14:20 |
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| EdLin | though programming for it is like programming for an embraced and extended Java ME platform. | 14:21 |
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| Macer | damnit | 15:09 |
| Macer | i can't seem to find out wtf is holding up this damn unmounting | 15:09 |
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| knightsilver | what is maemo? | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | now that's a very good question | 15:12 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | something that occupies our time with its IRC channel | 15:13 |
| knightsilver | qwerty12_N810: so thats what its functionality is. | 15:13 |
| knightsilver | but what is it. | 15:13 |
| ShadowJK | nokia's linux distribution for tablets | 15:14 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | In essence, the Linux-based OS Nokia uses on its tablets (770, N800, N810, etc) | 15:15 |
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| Macer | ugh | 15:19 |
| Macer | why the hell won't this damn thing not allow me unmount my raid | 15:19 |
| Macer | keeps saying the device is busy but i don't know how | 15:19 |
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| Macer | lol. well.. -f did it :) | 15:21 |
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| knightsilver | ShadowJK: does that mean i can use it on my nokia? | 15:28 |
| lbt | lsof | 15:28 |
| lbt | Macer.... and have you exported it via nfs? | 15:29 |
| Macer | er | 15:29 |
| ShadowJK | knightsilver: not on phones | 15:29 |
| Macer | no :) | 15:29 |
| Macer | i turned it off.. it's ok. -f unmounted it | 15:29 |
| Macer | whatever was trying to use it wasn't important | 15:29 |
| ShadowJK | knightsilver, only on 770, N800 and N810. | 15:29 |
| lbt | OK, np | 15:29 |
| lbt | fuser and lsof next time... | 15:29 |
| ShadowJK | Though rumour has it the next one(s) might be phones too | 15:29 |
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| Macer | but what sucks is that this stupid phoenix bios doesn't boot from a usb drive | 15:30 |
| Macer | i could just shoot someone | 15:30 |
| lbt | yeah, that sucks | 15:30 |
| Macer | like you wouldn't believe | 15:31 |
| Macer | now i have to download and burn a cd | 15:31 |
| Macer | blah!! | 15:31 |
| mavhc | how 2001 | 15:31 |
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| Macer | i know | 15:33 |
| Macer | wtf | 15:33 |
| Macer | no wait.. awesome i have the iso on this laptop | 15:33 |
| Macer | the real crappy part is that this is the filesrver so if it wasn't on the lapotp i couldn't get it from my fileserver :) | 15:34 |
| Macer | damnit :) i guess i missed it | 15:39 |
| Macer | or had to reboot or something | 15:39 |
| Macer | because now it sees it | 15:39 |
| Macer | either that or it is going to explode | 15:39 |
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| timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: so, thoughts on the locale? | 16:00 |
| Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: i like your version | 16:00 |
| timeless_mbp | :) | 16:00 |
| timeless_mbp | did i give you sources? | 16:00 |
| Stskeeps | no i don't think so | 16:01 |
| timeless_mbp | k | 16:01 |
| timeless_mbp | lemme package something up | 16:01 |
| timeless_mbp | Connection Established - You are now connected to the wired network | 16:02 |
| timeless_mbp | gah | 16:02 |
| * timeless_mbp kicks nm | 16:02 | |
| Stskeeps | whoever wrote those strings needs to die | 16:02 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:02 |
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| timeless_mbp | erm | 16:04 |
| timeless_mbp | what kind of load applet do i have? | 16:04 |
| Stskeeps | the usual one | 16:04 |
| timeless_mbp | ham is offering me maemo5-load-applet | 16:04 |
| Stskeeps | eh :P | 16:04 |
| timeless_mbp | but it doesn't claim to be an update | 16:04 |
| Stskeeps | i don't think we have maemo5-load-applet :) | 16:04 |
| timeless_mbp | i have fremantle repos | 16:04 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 16:04 |
| Stskeeps | desktop applets/etc from fremantle aren't compatible with mer, sadly | 16:04 |
| Stskeeps | we will get there eventually though | 16:04 |
| timeless_mbp | wtf is with these apps who require libglib2.0-0 ? | 16:04 |
| Stskeeps | there's a simple explanation for that | 16:05 |
| timeless_mbp | people are stupid? | 16:05 |
| Stskeeps | ubuntu uses glib 2.20 and we use glib 2.18 | 16:05 |
| timeless_mbp | and they aren't compatible? | 16:05 |
| timeless_mbp | and libsdl? | 16:05 |
| Stskeeps | libsdl is a naming issue that i hope will be solved in fremantle | 16:05 |
| timeless_mbp | zeesteroids | 16:06 |
| timeless_mbp | Zeemote exmaple game | 16:06 |
| timeless_mbp | does it come with syrup? | 16:06 |
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| Stskeeps | we will use 2.20 in 0.15 because someone within nokia contractors did the right thing and made the glib patches | 16:06 |
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| timeless_mbp | do we know till harbaum ? | 16:06 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, he was in cph too | 16:07 |
| timeless_mbp | irc nick? | 16:07 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum | 16:07 |
| timeless_mbp | does he have a bug tracker or do i send him email? | 16:07 |
| Stskeeps | either way, we will catch many of these issues if we work with jeremiah to add maemoism/scratchboxisms checks to maemian | 16:07 |
| Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: not sure | 16:07 |
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| timeless_mbp | we should add a spell checker to the builders | 16:07 |
| timeless_mbp | something to tell people 'exmaple' is unprofessional | 16:08 |
| * timeless_mbp kicks the ukmp author | 16:08 | |
| timeless_mbp | and the mcalendar author | 16:08 |
| timeless_mbp | mCalendar is a small calendar application specially designed for maemo internet t... | 16:09 |
| timeless_mbp | for such a small application, it could really use a shorter description :) | 16:09 |
| timeless_mbp | + mtodos | 16:09 |
| * timeless_mbp kicks pygtkeditor for the same reason as ukmp | 16:10 | |
| timeless_mbp | !seen khhertan | 16:10 |
| konttori__ | timeless_mbp: ??? what? | 16:10 |
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| timeless_mbp | konttori__: short desc should not have a period at the end | 16:10 |
| timeless_mbp | it isn't supposed to be a sentence | 16:10 |
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| timeless_mbp | thanks for fixing :) | 16:11 |
| konttori__ | well, what the *ch should it be? | 16:11 |
| timeless_mbp | something without a period | 16:11 |
| timeless_mbp | don't ask me... ask the crazy Debian people :) | 16:11 |
| konttori__ | ok. will fix. | 16:11 |
| konttori__ | anyway, I really don't like the application manager as a browsing interface of available applications | 16:11 |
| timeless_mbp | konttori__: well um... | 16:11 |
| timeless_mbp | i can use that or apt-cache search . | 16:12 |
| konttori__ | all that is good for, is for the updates. | 16:12 |
| timeless_mbp | at this time i'm using it because that's the official "supported" user interface | 16:12 |
| konttori__ | timeless_mbp: I don't believe in the whole debian package database to be the source of finding apps. | 16:12 |
| timeless_mbp | get someone somewhere to replace it | 16:12 |
| konttori__ | it's too limited for a real end user. | 16:12 |
| slonopotamus | btw, there was a lot of hype about fixing package categories. but they don't look fixed :/ | 16:13 |
| timeless_mbp | what in the world is a real end user? :) | 16:13 |
| konttori__ | web runtime interface to downloads.maemo.org would be much better | 16:13 |
| konttori__ | timeless_mbp: one who does not know what debian means. | 16:13 |
| konttori__ | that's a pretty good explanation for this case. | 16:13 |
| timeless_mbp | well, put it this way | 16:14 |
| timeless_mbp | the convention is that every package's description will not end in a period | 16:15 |
| timeless_mbp | and we'll try to enforce it | 16:15 |
| * Macer hopes this opensolaris install is really going as good as it seems to be | 16:15 | |
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| Macer | so far getting rid of nexenta seems to be an easy task | 16:15 |
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| timeless_mbp | konttori__: i think the description is essentially a headline | 16:16 |
| timeless_mbp | and it makes sense for headlines not to have periods | 16:16 |
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| * timeless_mbp kicks DateJinni's author for botching the DiceJinni description :) | 16:18 | |
| timeless_mbp | lack of consistency by a single dev for his pair of packages, so unprofessional :( | 16:18 |
| timeless_mbp | tim teulings | 16:19 |
| suihkulokki | lintian gives a warning if you end the short description in a period | 16:19 |
| timeless_mbp | please say we run lintian on builders/cauldron | 16:19 |
| timeless_mbp | we should highlight that one | 16:19 |
| timeless_mbp | and i'd argue that promotion should be refused for it | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | maemian, yeah | 16:20 |
| timeless_mbp | PackageView by tim teulings ends in a comma! | 16:20 |
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| timeless_mbp | ankimaemi is worse, it has a period but its first line is written as part of the description | 16:21 |
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| timeless_mbp | conboy is similar | 16:22 |
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| * timeless_mbp sighs | 16:24 | |
| timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: please say someone filed bugs about maemopad+'s disastrous startup sequence | 16:24 |
| Macer | heh | 16:24 |
| Stskeeps | digg front page: 'A Supreme Leader Loses His Aura as Iranians Flock to Sts' | 16:24 |
| Macer | just replaced nexenta with opensolaris in like 20 mins flat | 16:24 |
| Macer | that's awesome | 16:24 |
| Stskeeps | did you try using the shell yet? :P | 16:25 |
| Macer | Stskeeps: you use the built in cifs at all? | 16:25 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: yeah | 16:25 |
| Stskeeps | (i think) | 16:25 |
| timeless_mbp | shell? | 16:25 |
| Macer | does it work better than using samba? | 16:25 |
| Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: as in, non-gnu tools | 16:25 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: is okay.. but i honestly set it up a long time ago | 16:25 |
| timeless_mbp | Macer: did you pick Nevada or Indiana? | 16:25 |
| Macer | er.. which is which? i just chose the 2009.06 live cd | 16:26 |
| Macer | that's the one i've been using for the installs | 16:26 |
| Macer | so far i have it on 3 boxes here | 16:26 |
| Macer | if the wifi works on my macbook.. then i'm going to replace osx too :) | 16:26 |
| timeless_mbp | that's indiana | 16:26 |
| timeless_mbp | nevada was SXCE things | 16:26 |
| Macer | oh.. no .. i tried to stay away from sxce | 16:27 |
| * timeless_mbp frowns | 16:27 | |
| Macer | heh | 16:27 |
| timeless_mbp | so the Shit key is still on your keyboard | 16:27 |
| timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: please say that's a high priority bug | 16:27 |
| timeless_mbp | it's present at 800x480 | 16:27 |
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| Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: yeah, but i should really add it to trac | 16:27 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 16:27 |
| timeless_mbp | i think i added it somewhere | 16:27 |
| Stskeeps | we basically need to replace it with the pre-existing shift icon | 16:27 |
| Macer | i have to try this cifs crap out heh | 16:28 |
| * timeless_mbp sighs | 16:28 | |
| timeless_mbp | wtf | 16:28 |
| timeless_mbp | /!\ Really delete? | 16:29 |
| timeless_mbp | that stupid confirm dialog is system modal? | 16:29 |
| * timeless_mbp really wants to kill someone | 16:29 | |
| Stskeeps | which one? | 16:29 |
| timeless_mbp | Quicknote | 16:29 |
| timeless_mbp | but since it's a hildon styled dialog, i'd assume it's hildon | 16:29 |
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| timeless_mbp | who owns "Fine File Manager"? :( | 16:31 |
| timeless_mbp | it doesn't seem to work :( | 16:31 |
| * slonopotamus sees tear-bookmarks package in extras-devel, but no tear itself :/ is it really so hard to follow package dependencies when pushing them to repos? | 16:32 | |
| timeless_mbp | dependencies are hard | 16:32 |
| slonopotamus | argh, then don't mess with them | 16:33 |
| timeless_mbp | slonopotamus: try installing ankimaemi | 16:33 |
| timeless_mbp | it refuses to install, it needs anki! | 16:33 |
| slonopotamus | wtf | 16:34 |
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| slonopotamus | anki - 10 mb, ankimaemi - 1.4 mb | 16:34 |
| slonopotamus | but ankimaemi depends on anki | 16:34 |
| timeless_mbp | anki is presumably the back end | 16:35 |
| timeless_mbp | and anki{whichever} is the front end | 16:35 |
| slonopotamus | oh, misread | 16:35 |
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| slonopotamus | s/anki /ankiqt/ | 16:35 |
| slonopotamus | anyway, looks useless :) | 16:35 |
| timeless_mbp | ankiqt depends on qt | 16:35 |
| timeless_mbp | you're being billed for qt | 16:36 |
| timeless_mbp | but it doesn't matter, both are missing anki :) | 16:36 |
| slonopotamus | it is listed in deps | 16:36 |
| Macer | Stskeeps: how can i see what the dev names are for sata drives? | 16:36 |
| timeless_mbp | yeah, but anki doesn't seem available | 16:36 |
| Macer | i'm trying to attach the 2nd drive to rpool to be mirrored and can't seem to get it | 16:36 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: format -e maybe | 16:37 |
| slonopotamus | timeless_mbp, ham says it's installable | 16:37 |
| timeless_mbp | you using maemo5 or mer? | 16:37 |
| slonopotamus | neither :) | 16:37 |
| timeless_mbp | ankimaemi needs anki 0.9.9.7.9-1 | 16:38 |
| timeless_mbp | i'm offered anki 0.9.9.4-1 | 16:38 |
| lopz | hola | 16:38 |
| slonopotamus | timeless_mbp, i have anki 0.9.9.7.9-1 | 16:39 |
| timeless_mbp | slonopotamus: which repo offered it? | 16:39 |
| slonopotamus | how i know that? | 16:40 |
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| timeless_mbp | apt-cache policy anki | 16:40 |
| slonopotamus | http://repository.maemo.org diablo/free Packages | 16:41 |
| slonopotamus | hehe | 16:41 |
| timeless_mbp | cheater | 16:41 |
| Macer | wtf | 16:41 |
| * slonopotamus thinks that maemo repos are just screwed up | 16:41 | |
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| slonopotamus | how it got into that repo? :) | 16:42 |
| timeless_mbp | ankimaemi is only offered to me from fremantle/free | 16:42 |
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| slonopotamus | all this repo stuff is just broken | 16:43 |
| timeless_mbp | hrm | 16:44 |
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| * timeless_mbp frowns | 16:45 | |
| timeless_mbp | slonopotamus: ok, i bet the problem is that 0.9.7.9-1 depends on a glibc i can't install | 16:46 |
| slonopotamus | oh my | 16:46 |
| slonopotamus | with = dep? | 16:46 |
| slonopotamus | not >= ? | 16:46 |
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| slonopotamus | you can't have older glibc than diablo, right? | 16:47 |
| timeless_mbp | anki depends on python-simplejson (>= 2.0.6) but 1.9.2-1build1 is installed | 16:47 |
| timeless_mbp | so i was wrong about it being glibc | 16:47 |
| timeless_mbp | but it's the right general problem | 16:47 |
| timeless_mbp | and total UI/UE fail | 16:47 |
| slonopotamus | UE - ? | 16:48 |
| timeless_mbp | user experience | 16:48 |
| slonopotamus | err... python-simplejson comes from same repo | 16:49 |
| slonopotamus | possibly | 16:49 |
| slonopotamus | apt-cache policy doesn't show full url | 16:50 |
| slonopotamus | stupid | 16:50 |
| timeless_mbp | well. wtf | 16:50 |
| timeless_mbp | this seems installable | 16:50 |
| timeless_mbp | ok, so if i can install python-simplejson=2.0.9-1maemo1 | 16:50 |
| timeless_mbp | why doesn't apt offer to do that for me? | 16:50 |
| slonopotamus | apt-get upgrade offers? | 16:51 |
| timeless_mbp | apt-get upgrade offers maemopadplus, python-ystockquote and locale-l10n-enus1 | 16:51 |
| timeless_mbp | that last one would be a disaster | 16:51 |
| slonopotamus | try installing python-simplejson=2.0.9-1maemo1 by hand? maybe smth prevents it? | 16:51 |
| timeless_mbp | since it's the diablo version | 16:51 |
| timeless_mbp | seems like it worked | 16:52 |
| slonopotamus | diablo has newer version than fremantle? :) | 16:52 |
| timeless_mbp | freemantle/free had 2.0.9-1maemo1 too | 16:52 |
| timeless_mbp | so no | 16:53 |
| slonopotamus | then i still wonder why it wasn't automatically pulled in for you | 16:53 |
| timeless_mbp | it still isn't working | 16:53 |
| timeless_mbp | i'm still told i can't have anki = 0.9.9.7.9-1 | 16:54 |
| qwerty12_N810 | is it apt or hildon-application-manager telling you this? | 16:54 |
| timeless_mbp | ham | 16:55 |
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| timeless_mbp | which managed to corrupt my catalogs list | 16:55 |
| timeless_mbp | and told me "operation failed" | 16:55 |
| timeless_mbp | (yay!) | 16:55 |
| qwerty12_N810 | i wouldn't bother trusting, it's a little retarded in that sense | 16:55 |
| rmt | So - anything happening at LinuxTag? | 16:55 |
| qwerty12_N810 | +it | 16:55 |
| timeless_mbp | ok | 16:56 |
| timeless_mbp | apt says ankimaemi can't be installed | 16:56 |
| rmt | In Berlin this week, and will drop by | 16:56 |
| * timeless_mbp so doesn't get it | 16:57 | |
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| timeless_mbp | does apt have an "explain" feature? | 17:08 |
| timeless_mbp | if i give it the *obvious* solution it doesn't have issues | 17:08 |
| qwerty12_N810 | apt-get moo | 17:08 |
| Macer | Stskeeps: ? | 17:08 |
| Macer | how does the built in cifs authenticate? | 17:09 |
| Macer | do you just use the shell login/pw for it? | 17:09 |
| timeless_mbp | http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/cifs-server/%3Bjsessionid=CC3EC40BE7014CFF7168A41D0A90E7FD | 17:09 |
| Macer | http://developers.sun.com/openstorage/articles/opensolaris_storage_server.html#3 | 17:11 |
| Macer | was looking at that | 17:11 |
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| konttori__ | timeless_mbp: did you at any point consider that most of the devs really don't have the time nor the interest to really get used to debian rules? | 17:23 |
| konttori__ | timeless_mbp: perhaps if maemo.org had a really good and simple packaging instructions, it might make sense | 17:23 |
| konttori__ | also, on most systems, debian packaging is done by people who mainly do packaging. | 17:24 |
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| konttori__ | and the devs are separate. | 17:24 |
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| konttori__ | perhaps maemo.org should also make it so that devs can concentrate on development and someone will be pulling stuff all the time to extras | 17:24 |
| konttori__ | I really would not mind not having to care about the packaging. | 17:24 |
| konttori__ | timeless_mbp: also, I don't understand why you are making a hate list of people who have had a comma at the end of description lines. Just send them emails instead | 17:25 |
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| Stskeeps | konttori__: i think it's exactly for mailing them :P | 17:35 |
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| konttori__ | so, he's mailing them? | 17:36 |
| konttori__ | good for him. | 17:36 |
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| xnt14 | wtf? | 17:37 |
| xnt14 | oh clone on xchat | 17:37 |
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| xnt14 | :) | 17:37 |
| xnt14 | this is what happens | 17:37 |
| xnt14 | when | 17:37 |
| * xnt14 plays around in ~/.xchat2 | 17:38 | |
| xnt14 | xD | 17:38 |
| timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: speaking of which | 17:40 |
| timeless_mbp | mer-platform(0|-dev) are guilty | 17:40 |
| * xnt14 wonders why Stskeeps, timeless and konttori_ was highlighted when they didn't even mention me :P | 17:40 | |
| timeless_mbp | xnt14: maybe we were among the recent joiners and your name was too? | 17:40 |
| xnt14 | timeless_mbp, nah, my xchat config is screwed up :P | 17:41 |
| xnt14 | need to find the option thats causing this | 17:41 |
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| * timeless_mbp grumbles | 17:42 | |
| * timeless_mbp kicks something | 17:42 | |
| Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: yeah, not my package | 17:44 |
| timeless_mbp | apt-cache show seems stupid | 17:44 |
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| timeless_mbp | my count shows 500 potential packages | 17:46 |
| timeless_mbp | but i think most are duplicates because apt is stupid | 17:47 |
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| timeless_mbp | help | 17:51 |
| timeless_mbp | how do i tell apt-cache show to only show me one version? | 17:51 |
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| * xnt14 wants to kill xchat, it keeps on bugging me while im trying to fix the issue | 17:52 | |
| xnt14 | nevermind fixed | 17:52 |
| Macer | well. this has been a huge success. now i have to lug this damn thing back into the coal room | 17:52 |
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| timeless_mbp | heh | 17:52 |
| Macer | Stskeeps: the cifs is awesome :) | 17:52 |
| xnt14 | :P | 17:53 |
| Macer | timeless_mbp: thanks a ton for that guide | 17:53 |
| Macer | it was better than the one i was using | 17:53 |
| timeless_mbp | :) | 17:53 |
| timeless_mbp | google is cheap | 17:53 |
| Macer | haha | 17:53 |
| Macer | i still have to install the other repos on it so i can put vbox and i guess flash on it | 17:54 |
| Macer | but other than that. the thing seems rock solid | 17:54 |
| timeless_mbp | right... so... someone want to help me use apt? | 17:55 |
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| Macer | don't know why the hell i would need flash for a server but why not? | 18:05 |
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| * timeless_mbp grumbles | 18:06 | |
| Macer | what's wrong with apt timeless_mbp ? :) | 18:06 |
| Macer | usually ti just kind of works | 18:06 |
| timeless_mbp | it's incredibly stupid? | 18:06 |
| timeless_mbp | suppose i have a package foo in versions 0.1, 0.2, 0.3 | 18:07 |
| timeless_mbp | how do i ask it to apt-cache show only 0.2? | 18:07 |
| Macer | honestly don't know.. didn't really use it too much myself | 18:07 |
| Macer | maybe aptitude would be a better thing to use? | 18:07 |
| timeless_mbp | doubtful :) | 18:07 |
| Macer | heh | 18:07 |
| Macer | i never really used apt other than apt-get install foo.. and really... i hardly used that too often | 18:08 |
| Macer | install opensolaris on the n810 :) | 18:08 |
| Macer | uh oh. the son is up :) | 18:08 |
| Macer | have to go .. happy father's day to the fathers | 18:08 |
| k-s | which playlist? | 18:09 |
| k-s | and I don't use tracker :-/ | 18:09 |
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| timeless_mbp | http://www.webwizardry.net/~timeless/debian-package-list-bpp-pkg-synopsis.txt | 18:18 |
| timeless_mbp | is my list of offenders fwiw | 18:18 |
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| slonopotamus | timeless_mbp, you don't like dots? :) | 18:20 |
| timeless_mbp | http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/best-pkging-practices.html#bpp-pkg-synopsis | 18:20 |
| timeless_mbp | slonopotamus: debian doesn't | 18:20 |
| GAN8001 | slonopotamus, waiting on Nokia. | 18:20 |
| timeless_mbp | and i agree | 18:20 |
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| GeneralAntilles | konttori__, using the web for app browsing is stupid | 18:21 |
| GeneralAntilles | It'll never be faster or more effective than native. | 18:21 |
| GeneralAntilles | The Application Manager just needs to be made not to suck. | 18:21 |
| * timeless_mbp shrugs | 18:21 | |
| timeless_mbp | i've been on both sides of this one | 18:21 |
| GeneralAntilles | The Debian database information isn't a limitation. | 18:21 |
| GeneralAntilles | Both should be provided. | 18:21 |
| timeless_mbp | gan is assuming nokia can manage to make it not suck | 18:22 |
| GeneralAntilles | But the native one should be pushed primarily. | 18:22 |
| timeless_mbp | nokia mostly wants to make it webby | 18:22 |
| GeneralAntilles | Ovi Store isn't very encouraging. | 18:22 |
| timeless_mbp | i just want the data source to not suck | 18:22 |
| timeless_mbp | because bad data is a bad start | 18:22 |
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| GeneralAntilles | I've laid out a reasonable formula for them right here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Improving_the_Application_manager | 18:22 |
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| GeneralAntilles | timeless_mbp, I agree. | 18:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | Reading over the package data for the stuff in Extras gives me ticks. | 18:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | But these are two separate issues. | 18:24 |
| * timeless_mbp nods | 18:24 | |
| * timeless_mbp frowns | 18:24 | |
| * timeless_mbp wonders how to convert this into something useful | 18:24 | |
| slonopotamus | can't you reupload packages with broken categories? that shouldn't take more than several hours. | 18:24 |
| timeless_mbp | csv? :) | 18:24 |
| qwerty12_N810 | slonopotamus: you're making the false assumption that nokia shipped out h-a-m with fixed categories... | 18:25 |
| GeneralAntilles | ^ | 18:25 |
| GeneralAntilles | If you replace the categories now you lose localization. | 18:25 |
| RST38h | General: All the screenshots in that wiki page are now going to be replaced | 18:27 |
| RST38h | General: given how different Fremantle UI is | 18:27 |
| GeneralAntilles | RST38h, sure, but the basic concepts remain. | 18:28 |
| GeneralAntilles | and I can update them easily once I see what the hell it is Nokia is still hiding back there | 18:28 |
| GeneralAntilles | They've so totally fucked the timeline for the full beta UI. | 18:28 |
| * GeneralAntilles 's anger level towards Nokia is reaching the high-water mark. | 18:28 | |
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| timeless_mbp | ok, so andrew flegg owns one offender | 18:44 |
| RST38h | An electrical fault has delayed the LHC startup to October. | 18:44 |
| mavhc | god is trying to save the universe! | 18:45 |
| GeneralAntilles | timeless_mbp, kill him! | 18:45 |
| qwerty12_N810 | RST38h: these guys should team up with pandora guys | 18:45 |
| timeless_mbp | there are 66 offending maemo packages | 18:45 |
| * RST38h is off to post to itt =) | 18:45 | |
| timeless_mbp | on average each packager has 2 offending packages | 18:45 |
| timeless_mbp | so it's about 30 offenders | 18:45 |
| GeneralAntilles | timeless_mbp, you have a list of emails? | 18:46 |
| timeless_mbp | Faheem Pervez <trippin1@gmail.com> has 7 | 18:46 |
| timeless_mbp | GeneralAntilles: i have a csv file :) | 18:46 |
| GeneralAntilles | Haha | 18:46 |
| GeneralAntilles | qwerty12_N810, usuk. | 18:46 |
| qwerty12_N810 | I'm a guilty bastard. | 18:46 |
| GeneralAntilles | timeless_mbp, pass it over to jeremiah? | 18:46 |
| timeless_mbp | http://www.webwizardry.net/~timeless/mer-debs.csv | 18:46 |
| timeless_mbp | jeremiah: ping | 18:46 |
| * timeless_mbp loves this: | 18:47 | |
| qwerty12_N810 | But the period on the Formido package owns. "Kill all the alien bastards." - that's class, right there. | 18:47 |
| timeless_mbp | root <matan@svgalib.org> | 18:47 |
| timeless_mbp | tz <tz1@mac.com> wins for the longest description | 18:48 |
| timeless_mbp | Faster, more efficient gpsd replacement which includes support for logging to kml, gpsgate, extra (OBD2) data, integrated google maps and webpage or kml server, and simultaneous internal/bluetooth GPS. | 18:48 |
| timeless_mbp | that isn't quite under 80 columns in case anyone is curious | 18:48 |
| timeless_mbp | (or 200 for that matter) | 18:49 |
| timeless_mbp | (it's 201) | 18:49 |
| timeless_mbp | anyway, back later | 18:49 |
| timeless_mbp | i'll file bugs or send mail or something | 18:49 |
| timeless_mbp | and i'll post the scripts i used eventually | 18:49 |
| * GeneralAntilles is going to go kill himself in a 40HP 13' Boston Whaler | 18:51 | |
| qwerty12_N810 | timeless: what version number does osso-pick-locale hold? | 18:52 |
| qwerty12_N810 | RST38h: add a pool! | 18:52 |
| timeless_mbp | 1.1 | 18:52 |
| qwerty12_N810 | s/pool/poll/ | 18:52 |
| infobot | qwerty12_N810 meant: RST38h: add a poll! | 18:52 |
| qwerty12_N810 | k | 18:52 |
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| timelys | Qwerty, got it all nice and shiny? | 18:55 |
| qwerty12_N810 | timelys: nope :) | 18:55 |
| qwerty12_N810 | doing the reboot dialog... | 18:56 |
| timelys | Heh | 18:56 |
| RST38h | qwerty: Done - http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=29756 | 18:56 |
| qwerty12_N810 | yay | 18:56 |
| timelys | Will the reboot dialog be suid? | 18:56 |
| qwerty12_N810 | nah, I'll make it run gksu | 18:57 |
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| GeneralAntilles | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/06/20/1941213/Best-Handset-For-Freedom needs a Maemo phone | 19:00 |
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| konttori__ | GeneralAntilles: I'll take a look at the suggestions | 19:08 |
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| lcuk | konttori__, web runtime doesn't magically solve problems - there is no magic bullet | 19:11 |
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| * lcuk thinks app manager should be a really nice slick local app that feels like its part of your device | 19:12 | |
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| mavhc | or a local app is just a cached web app | 19:15 |
| lcuk | yeah mavhc, thats the same for all apps | 19:16 |
| lcuk | apart from those created on the device itself | 19:16 |
| knightsilver | ShadowJK: but nit the 335? | 19:17 |
| mavhc | it's just different views of the same data, screenshots, reviews, etc are shown when you go to the website version, name, description on the local | 19:17 |
| lcuk | oh yeah i know but its where that data is expected from | 19:18 |
| konttori__ | lcuk: indeed, there is not magic bullet. but comparing the views of the maemo.org downloads section and the appman, it's quite clear how much more good information there is in downloads than in appman. | 19:20 |
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| konttori__ | also, the ability to have the sorting by popularity is really nice. | 19:20 |
| lcuk | i agree konttori__ - infact i have a selection of screenshots of the top apps as test data in liqbase, using the funky search brings things up really quickly | 19:21 |
| konttori__ | sounds good | 19:21 |
| lcuk | it certainly gives more ideas :) | 19:22 |
| konttori__ | but really, to get appman to a proper state requires much more than has been outlined in GeneralAntilles page, even though that is a good start. | 19:22 |
| kkrusty | I think I know now whats wrong with doneit. It expects python2.6 while I have python2.5 | 19:22 |
| mavhc | so really you want a discovery installer? that suggests what you should install? | 19:23 |
| konttori__ | I would vote for the proper integration with downloads to be the single improvement to make to appman | 19:23 |
| lcuk | konttori__, every road starts with a single step | 19:23 |
| lcuk | and the work general has put in over the months and the discussions he has started at least gets things moving | 19:23 |
| lcuk | instead of leaving the status quo | 19:23 |
| lcuk | the problem is konttori__ downloads does not list all things required by the app manager | 19:24 |
| * slonopotamus thinks categories localization should be separate package from h-a-m so it can be easily updated | 19:24 | |
| * kkrusty weeps at incompatible versions | 19:24 | |
| lcuk | there are many apps and libraries which do not have a downloads linkup | 19:24 |
| konttori__ | lcuk: well, those apps should be then added to downloads | 19:24 |
| konttori__ | it can be done even automatically easily | 19:24 |
| lcuk | downloads only shows the final completed ready for production things that people want to advertise | 19:24 |
| lcuk | app man allows ANY application in any repo to be discoverable | 19:25 |
| konttori__ | lcuk: and so should extras | 19:25 |
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| lcuk | konttori__, should libliqbase be added to downloads with a nice picture of a command line and stuff? | 19:26 |
| lcuk | how do you advertise tracker? | 19:26 |
| lcuk | im not against it, i think having the comments and ratings and pics are *GOOD* and extremely user friendly things | 19:26 |
| lcuk | but they dont cover everything | 19:27 |
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| slonopotamus | qwerty12_N810, i don't think categories are fixed, but net, internet, network and connectivity could be easily joined into one. that's just a question of reuploading | 19:28 |
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| slonopotamus | same thing with navigation vs. Navigation | 19:28 |
| slonopotamus | ah, there's also 'connection' :) | 19:30 |
| slonopotamus | and i don't understand what stops you from uploading newer h-a-m to extras with updated categories translations | 19:31 |
| slonopotamus | assuming they're not hardcoded in binaries :) | 19:31 |
| lcuk | even if they are, there is an update mechanism | 19:32 |
| lcuk | since the app man is open source, what happens if someone uploads an alternative version to extras | 19:32 |
| lcuk | would it completely make the world implode | 19:32 |
| slonopotamus | aren't extras uploads verified by trusted persons? | 19:33 |
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| lcuk | yeah | 19:34 |
| lcuk | but if a member of the maemo council (generalantilles) isnt trusted, then who is | 19:34 |
| lcuk | anyway, if a new package manager came along that also had dynamic links to the downloads sections as well as doing the apt- stuff - even if it had a new name it may take off | 19:35 |
| lcuk | just like alternative package managers on other platforms have | 19:36 |
| lcuk | z4chh, whats the arch package manager called :D | 19:36 |
| z4chh | pacman | 19:37 |
| lcuk | its not graphical tho is it | 19:37 |
| lcuk | :D | 19:37 |
| z4chh | not naturally no hah | 19:38 |
| lcuk | tis an example of alternative tho :) | 19:38 |
| z4chh | there may be a gui to pacman...i don't know of it though | 19:38 |
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| lcuk | i wonder if aptitude or something would work | 19:38 |
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| slonopotamus | anyway. if maemo community really wants to fix its repos, it can easily do it :) | 19:42 |
| konttori__ | lcuk: you should definitely add it to downloads for the app. | 19:43 |
| Jaffa | There's a thread on maemo-developers which talks about how we could ship an updated version of h-a-m, or any other s/w | 19:43 |
| Jaffa | However, a) it's lacking people who have time to bother experimenting; and b) it's not easy to make it seamless (ideally, Nokia would ship an upgrade saying "community can now issue diablo updates", but since that hasn't happened (and the question was met with silence) - it'd have to be an elective upgrade on the part of people | 19:44 |
| slonopotamus | besides that, h-a-m doesn't look very complicated so it can be just thrown away and rewritten | 19:44 |
| * lcuk coughs | 19:44 | |
| Jaffa | Why rewrite rather than improve? | 19:44 |
| Jaffa | NIH syndrome. | 19:44 |
| Jaffa | The code's not that bad (having submitted some patches) | 19:44 |
| lcuk | slonopotamus, i am betting there are a LOT of very complex things in appman | 19:44 |
| slonopotamus | Jaffa, err... h-a-m is open? | 19:45 |
| lcuk | the rewrite and start from scratch mantra is something a freshman would say, then spend the next 10 years | 19:45 |
| Jaffa | slonopotamus: Yeah, most open user-facing component of Maemo | 19:45 |
| qwerty12_N810 | the option to use the apt algo. from the fremantle versions of h-a-m would be useful | 19:45 |
| qwerty12_N810 | h-a-m's own sucks | 19:46 |
| slonopotamus | oh. then i take my 'rewrite it' words back. improve it :) | 19:46 |
| mavhc | version 1 is shipped when it just about works, v2 includes everything you left out of v1, v3 includes all the stuff people asked for, v4 is a complete rewrite. | 19:46 |
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| Jaffa | mvo's been happy to apply community patches; it's just a shame there's not been a diablo update since the patches went in | 19:46 |
| mavhc | everything past v1 is never finished | 19:46 |
| Jaffa | slonopotamus: Community-provided patches, and the "hide sections which aren't translater (i.e. approved)" fix from mvo himself are all in the h-a-m in Mer. | 19:47 |
| lcuk | jaffa, my biggest peev with it is having a whole screen listing the items and being forced to press on an 8x8 pixel down arrow to list through them | 19:47 |
| lcuk | its diabolical | 19:47 |
| slonopotamus | jaffa, you're advocating agains maemo? :D | 19:47 |
| * slonopotamus should try mer... | 19:48 | |
| GAN800 | Man the 3G S fucking screams | 19:49 |
| * GAN800 can't wait for OMAP3< | 19:49 | |
| GAN800 | "S" may be stupid, but it's appropriate | 19:49 |
| GAN800 | Every animation is like glass | 19:50 |
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| mavhc | still 6 random characters away from the average electronic goods name | 19:53 |
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| GeneralAntilles | konttori__, integrate Downloads info into h-a-m. | 19:53 |
| GeneralAntilles | Simple. | 19:53 |
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| GeneralAntilles | konttori__, just combine the data from the Debian repo and Downloads. | 19:54 |
| * GeneralAntilles is glad he didn't get the E71 | 19:54 | |
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| Jaffa | GAN800: baloo's got a 3GS too. Seems pleased. | 19:55 |
| lcuk | once its jailbroken, can you change the os? | 19:55 |
| lcuk | ie is native linux on it yet | 19:55 |
| GeneralAntilles | No. | 19:55 |
| lcuk | Why Not? | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps | a sane linux kernel isn't trivial :P | 19:56 |
| GeneralAntilles | Drivers, etc? | 19:56 |
| Stskeeps | we're more likely to have mer on pre though | 19:56 |
| GeneralAntilles | Apple's got that shit locked down | 19:56 |
| GeneralAntilles | The N95 doesn't even have Linux. | 19:56 |
| lcuk | Stskeeps, sounds reasonable | 19:56 |
| lcuk | i could technically drop liqbase ontop of the current pre backend linux i believe, given xv drivers | 19:57 |
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| Macer | why are the super heroes in justice league such punks? | 20:02 |
| Macer | like superman is hurt by lasers and not strong at all | 20:02 |
| Macer | he is a punk | 20:03 |
| mavhc | they don't like rock'n'roll? | 20:03 |
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| GeneralAntilles | WTF http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=A_livable_area_originally_became_uninhabitable&rcid=14522 | 20:04 |
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| * Stskeeps is just happy he can watch the daily show again | 20:39 | |
| timelys | I got a bluetooth message | 20:39 |
| timelys | It asked me if i wanted it ... Yes | 20:39 |
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| timelys | Then it said ... Not enough memory delete some data first | 20:40 |
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| timelys | It doesn't say how much i need or from which bucket | 20:41 |
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| timelys | Sts, what happened? | 20:41 |
| timelys | General, will you beat package people with trouts as they speak up here | 20:43 |
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| timelys | Lcuk. Iirc, you're an offender too | 20:47 |
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| timelys | Lcuk, application manager should work with the arrow widget on n8x0s | 20:50 |
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| RST38h | Another 2GB+ of logs... | 20:52 |
| RST38h | but at least INC, DEC, and CMP work properly now | 20:53 |
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| timelys | I'd expect the 5 version to support panning | 20:53 |
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| timelys | hey, is where the wild things are | 20:56 |
| timelys | Coming as a movie | 20:56 |
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| timelys | Watching trailers in finland can suck | 21:00 |
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| suihkulokki | 20:56 < timelys> hey, is where the wild things are | 21:05 |
| suihkulokki | I'll store this for the next time you complain about my grammar :P | 21:05 |
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| RST38h | Maybe I should just use OF flag to invert SF flag or something... | 21:24 |
| * RST38h also curses DEC and its microcode | 21:25 | |
| pupnik | ?! | 21:26 |
| pupnik | watching Star Trek pilot episode "The Cage" starring Susan Oliver - a goddess! | 21:27 |
| RST38h | pupnik: a-, not the- ? =) | 21:27 |
| pupnik | you have a point | 21:27 |
| pupnik | youtube has the whole pilot | 21:27 |
| RST38h | men were men and women wore less? =) | 21:27 |
| pupnik | hehe | 21:28 |
| RST38h | "In the syndication version scenes with Spock showing emotion were left out" | 21:29 |
| RST38h | One decision - and the whole series could have gone completely different =) | 21:29 |
| pupnik | hrmm | 21:30 |
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| pupnik | "Suppose you had all of space to choose from, and this was only one small sample..." "Wouldn't you say it was worth a man's soul??" <Vina dances> | 21:32 |
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| RST38h | Shit, no, it does not. Curse curse curse. | 21:43 |
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| timeless_mbp | suihkulokki: try typing while you're in a theater using t9 | 22:52 |
| timeless_mbp | and you're afraid words will be erased by your phone | 22:52 |
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| timeless_mbp | which rebooted sometime during the movie, i might add | 22:52 |
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| Toba | hey, where would the dhcp leases reside on maemo? | 23:16 |
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| timeless_mbp | Toba: eh? | 23:25 |
| timeless_mbp | you mean like a dhclient? | 23:25 |
| Toba | yeah | 23:25 |
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| timeless_mbp | typically end users just change connection or disconnect+ connect :) | 23:26 |
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| lcuk | Toba, they reside somewhere in the device | 23:32 |
| lcuk | not sure where, cos i didnt want to pull the chips themselves off | 23:32 |
| lcuk | they might be small enough to hide under there | 23:32 |
| lcuk | or maybe just inside the battery compartment | 23:33 |
| Toba | you're so helpful | 23:33 |
| lcuk | :D | 23:33 |
| lcuk | i think timeless is right, most people just reconnect | 23:33 |
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| Toba | I'm now figuring that my access point is probably still acting as a DHCP server. whoops. | 23:34 |
| Toba | hopefully the leases time out. | 23:34 |
| Toba | also, why should it keep a lease from before i changed the netblock. that's bad coding right there. | 23:34 |
| Toba | yay for non routable ip addresses | 23:34 |
| timeless_mbp | lcuk: did you fix your packages? | 23:35 |
| lcuk | 0.3.10 is JUST building now | 23:35 |
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| timeless_mbp | Package: libliqbase-dev | 23:36 |
| timeless_mbp | Description: liqbase rendering engine and ui core elements. | 23:36 |
| timeless_mbp | as long as it builds w/o that '.' at the end :) | 23:36 |
| timeless_mbp | same for libliqbase1 :) | 23:36 |
| lcuk | whats up with the dot :O | 23:36 |
| timeless_mbp | it's against the debian packaging guidelines :) | 23:36 |
| lcuk | it was implicit and the package will fail if its missing | 23:37 |
| lcuk | oh gawd! :( | 23:37 |
| lcuk | errr can we just pretend its ok until after i have a working version - i have no hair left and frankly im afraid to touch anything at all in it | 23:37 |
| timeless_mbp | just open debian/control | 23:37 |
| timeless_mbp | find the line with Description: ... | 23:37 |
| timeless_mbp | and remove the '.' from the end of it :) | 23:38 |
| lcuk | ive been doing that for the last 3 weeks | 23:38 |
| timeless_mbp | there are two such lines, remove it from both :) | 23:38 |
| timeless_mbp | no need to push a new version just for that | 23:38 |
| timeless_mbp | but please fix it so the next version you push doesn't have that | 23:38 |
| lcuk | i know, ill check both and also from liqbase-playground | 23:38 |
| * lcuk sighs | 23:38 | |
| timeless_mbp | then you can exit the hall of shame: http://www.webwizardry.net/~timeless/mer-debs.csv | 23:39 |
| timeless_mbp | thanks :) | 23:39 |
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| lcuk | hah | 23:39 |
| lcuk | cool tho | 23:39 |
| lcuk | packaging needs someone looking over shoulder :) | 23:39 |
| lcuk | so for that reason alone i shall listen and change now | 23:39 |
| * timeless_mbp grumbles | 23:40 | |
| timeless_mbp | wtf | 23:40 |
| timeless_mbp | "phonelink",01/04/03,"Fred Lefevere-Laoide","Let you dial or sms using your Bluetooth Phone and your contacts from GPE or the built-in contacts." | 23:40 |
| timeless_mbp | why didn't that get quotes? | 23:40 |
| timeless_mbp | oh ... openoffice helpfully removed them for me | 23:40 |
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| Macer | heh | 23:45 |
| Macer | took the son out for fathers day time | 23:46 |
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| Macer | trying to get this centos vbox working correctly now | 23:46 |
| RST38h | centos! bleah. | 23:47 |
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| lcuk2 | timeless_mbp, http://github.com/lcuk/libliqbase/commit/c9d651c5f074bf7dbe338c05257ce5d7fb9e1c78 :) | 23:47 |
| timeless_mbp | :) | 23:48 |
| timeless_mbp | err no | 23:48 |
| lcuk2 | i got rid of both didnt i | 23:48 |
| timeless_mbp | only from the Description: line | 23:48 |
| timeless_mbp | the other thing is a paragraph | 23:48 |
| lcuk2 | does it need the . ? | 23:48 |
| timeless_mbp | yes | 23:48 |
| lcuk2 | oh ffs | 23:48 |
| timeless_mbp | and sentences too | 23:48 |
| timeless_mbp | so some capital letters at the beginning :) | 23:48 |
| * lcuk2 looks skyward | 23:48 | |
| lcuk2 | ok, does it need them for packaging policy, or just niceness? | 23:49 |
| timeless_mbp | both | 23:49 |
| Macer | RST38h: is for my zimbra server | 23:49 |
| Macer | centos: the poor man's rhel | 23:50 |
| timeless_mbp | Description: x is used as {package-name} {is|are} {shortdesc}. | 23:50 |
| timeless_mbp | the other thing is a multiline independent paragraph (or paragraphs) describing the package | 23:50 |
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| Macer | seem to be running into problems with the vnics | 23:51 |
| Macer | maybe i would be better off using nat than bridging it | 23:51 |
| Macer | but then id have to config the vnat | 23:52 |
| Macer | right now im in whatever works status | 23:52 |
| Macer | the built in cifs is great | 23:53 |
| Macer | should see if i can get it to auth :) | 23:53 |
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| Macer | zimbra is such a whore to start | 23:55 |
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