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| johns_ | it works http://jumpjack.wordpress.com/2008/05/20/worlds-cheapest-remote-control-replicator-just-1/ | 00:24 |
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| avraam | Hi. Does anyone know how to make the 810 hardware keyboard work with dosbox? I can't get anything that requires Fn key | 01:16 |
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| Jaffa | avraam: Tried doing fn + key simultaneously? | 01:19 |
| Jaffa | I can't remember if that worked for me or not. ISTR, a virtual keyboard being essential (which I didn't bother with, so stopped playing) | 01:19 |
| avraam | fn + key doesn't show anything | 01:23 |
| lcuk | avraam, dosbox bypasses hildon input method - its similar with sdl stuff as well | 01:23 |
| lcuk | it needs handling manually by the app itself i think | 01:24 |
| avraam | I don't want a virtual keyboard, so if I dont' find a solution, I'll uninstall dosbox :-) | 01:24 |
| Jaffa | avraam: No solution, then; AFAIK | 01:25 |
| avraam | luck, I understand that, anyway, all characters that don't require Fn are working | 01:25 |
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| lcuk | avraam, yes, they are normal characters, in maemo hildon input method does extra stuff with the keyboard to make the numbers etc work | 01:32 |
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| lcuk | Jaffa, i like the idea of musical entertainment | 01:34 |
| lcuk | perhaps it would be possible to find people from the cummunity | 01:35 |
| Jaffa | Yeah. Someone suggested that before (you?) | 01:35 |
| lcuk | we have never broached the topic really, but we must have some budding artists out there | 01:35 |
| Jaffa | Well, timsamoff's written film scores and plays loads of instruments AIUI | 01:35 |
| lcuk | no, i just want a shared maemo orchestra on the device :) | 01:35 |
| Jaffa | :0 | 01:35 |
| Jaffa | :) even | 01:35 |
| Jaffa | Don't want to put the poor souls to too much work | 01:36 |
| lcuk | i want a musical section where you can just zoom in and choose an instrument and jam | 01:36 |
| xnt14 | umm, audotouch? | 01:36 |
| xnt14 | *audio | 01:36 |
| lcuk | have the best instruments there for people to pickup and play :) | 01:36 |
| Jaffa | Watching a decent band play music you know and can sing along to definitely improves the atmosphere. I enjoyed the party last year, but the auto-generated techno wasn't to my taste and there was no focus for people to be communal at. | 01:36 |
| xnt14 | tbeta? | 01:36 |
| lcuk | boxar and pyano and theramin prove the concept | 01:36 |
| lcuk | but they are not together | 01:37 |
| xnt14 | the ipod/iphone has an app called band, that has instruments | 01:37 |
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| xnt14 | lcuk: http://sethsandler.com/ | 01:37 |
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| xnt14 | http://sethsandler.com/audiotouch/ | 01:37 |
| lcuk | cool | 01:38 |
| xnt14 | :) | 01:38 |
| xnt14 | so you basically want a piano app for liqbase? | 01:38 |
| xnt14 | would be hard with no multitouch :P | 01:39 |
| lcuk | no, i want to strum a guitar actually | 01:39 |
| lcuk | using a plectrum :) | 01:39 |
| xnt14 | lol, that is feasible | 01:39 |
| lcuk | different x position is the note | 01:39 |
| lcuk | obviously strumming is strength | 01:39 |
| lcuk | just simple :) | 01:39 |
| * lcuk sits and strums the kinetics in calendar and thinks | 01:40 | |
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| lcuk | theres columns which represent notes | 01:40 |
| xnt14 | :) | 01:40 |
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| VDVsx | avraam, the fn key generate a "ISO_Level3_Shift", just in case you want to map it | 01:42 |
| xnt14 | they also have an app called tbeta for a diy mt table | 01:42 |
| xnt14 | http://www.nuigroup.com/ | 01:42 |
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| xnt14 | http://nuicode.com/projects/tbeta | 01:43 |
| * xnt14 needs to get one of those tables :P | 01:43 | |
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| Jaffa | Stskeeps: ping - have you changed the way merbot posts to the mailing list? The author no longer contains the nick on http://n2.nabble.com/Mer-Chatter-f2732813.xml :-( | 01:44 |
| VDVsx | Jaffa, seems that this year they (nokia) are planning in having some kinda o techno music again :( | 01:45 |
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| Jaffa | Gah. I thought the Finns liked Lordi ;-) | 01:45 |
| Jaffa | VDVsx: Is that on the schedule page? I shouldn't look - I should go to bed | 01:46 |
| domme | lordi are boring :D | 01:46 |
| lcuk | /etc/init.s/jaffa sleep | 01:46 |
| lcuk | or somesuch nonsense | 01:46 |
| Jaffa | domme: Yeah, I want cheesy rock pop :) | 01:46 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: no such file or directory | 01:46 |
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| lcuk | ahhh well | 01:47 |
| domme | Jaffa: i want sonata arctica :D | 01:47 |
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| VDVsx | Jaffa, I catch this in a twitt from Jussi | 01:47 |
| VDVsx | 1 sec | 01:47 |
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| Jaffa | VDVsx: *Which* Jussi, btw? ;-) Says party's being organised by him, but I've got two @nokia.com Jussi's in gmail apparently. | 01:47 |
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| VDVsx | Jaffa, dunno :P | 01:48 |
| xnt14 | lol | 01:48 |
| VDVsx | Jaffa, lcuk know him | 01:48 |
| VDVsx | *knows | 01:48 |
| Jaffa | http://twitter.com/luovanto ? | 01:48 |
| Jaffa | Or http://vilunki.wordpress.com/ ? :-/ | 01:48 |
| lcuk | http://twitter.com/lcuk | 01:48 |
| lcuk | 1st jaffa | 01:48 |
| Jaffa | Ah no, Kukkonen's not at Nokia anymore, IIRC | 01:48 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: ta | 01:48 |
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| VDVsx | Jaffa, that one | 01:49 |
| VDVsx | ^luovanto | 01:49 |
| mavhc | that's why I say at home, the food's what I like, the music is what I like, /ignore works, and closer to bed | 01:49 |
| VDVsx | Jaffa, "@russchimes Would you be interested to do a DJ gig in Amsterdam? Exact date Friday October 9th. Fully compensated naturally." | 01:49 |
| mavhc | need a sign on my door: will go outside for money, or 3d 30ft wide cinema projections | 01:51 |
| lcuk | but if they give you one of those it will block the door and you will be trapped forever | 01:52 |
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| lcuk | Jaffa, mud builder | 01:53 |
| lcuk | is it practical to create multiple packages in same way as autobuilder and obs etc | 01:53 |
| avraam | HA! fixed | 01:53 |
| avraam | I found the infos on the forum | 01:53 |
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| Jaffa | lcuk: i.e. one mud package -> multiple debs in repo? Yes, because ultimately mud's just a convenience function around producing/tweaking debian/* | 01:54 |
| lcuk | sounds good | 01:54 |
| lcuk | so if i needed slight alterations (like specific #defines for different platforms) i could set it up | 01:54 |
| lcuk | or are there better ways | 01:54 |
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| lcuk | hiya zakkm | 01:55 |
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| lcuk | bye zakkm | 01:55 |
| xnt14 | lol | 01:55 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: Not sure. You could definitely do it with mud: Graham Cobb has one mud package generate different SDK output, so I don't see it being a problem. | 01:55 |
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| Macer | hello | 01:55 |
| xnt14 | ookk, | 01:56 |
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| xnt14 | nevermind | 01:56 |
| lcuk | Jaffa, i suppose with the simple tweaks i should be able to identify build time flags or system or something | 01:56 |
| lcuk | ill look into that method first | 01:56 |
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| lcuk | so i just have a standard single /debian and source setup for the plats | 01:57 |
| lcuk | hi Macer | 01:57 |
| * lcuk thinks he broke the autobuilder | 02:01 | |
| LiraNuna | from 2.6.30 kernel changes - # Support for the Nokia RX-51 Internet Tablet.Initial (commit) | 02:02 |
| LiraNuna | :3 | 02:02 |
| Jaffa | Oooh, found a Dutch Queen cover band: http://www.miracle-online.nl/promo/ - seem to be rather good :) | 02:02 |
| Jaffa | (watching the "Don't Stop Me Now" video) | 02:02 |
| lcuk | cant we get like coldplay themselves to be there lol | 02:03 |
| Jaffa | Coldplay would probably be cheaper ;-) | 02:03 |
| lcuk | they are into open source music | 02:03 |
| lcuk | it would be a coup | 02:03 |
| lcuk | and we never know until we ask | 02:03 |
| Jaffa | Or Gina G (we founded a "Cheesy Music Society" at warwick.ac.uk with the sole intent of booking Gina G for the union) | 02:03 |
| lcuk | :D | 02:03 |
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| lcuk | mmm https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/extras-cauldron-builds/2009-June/thread.html | 02:05 |
| lcuk | i think fremantle builder is upto something | 02:05 |
| lcuk | (look at bottom of list) | 02:05 |
| VDVsx | Jaffa, they are good :P | 02:06 |
| VDVsx | lcuk, secret packages o_0 | 02:08 |
| lcuk | either that or i fucked up when i pushed my packages to diablo lol | 02:08 |
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| Jaffa | Right, bed time. | 02:15 |
| Jaffa | Damnit, I wanted an early night! | 02:16 |
| lcuk | gnite Jaffa | 02:16 |
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| CutMeOwnThroat | not even 7pm yet! | 02:35 |
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| AOD_tomaterr | ah ty | 02:58 |
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| dick-richardson | will the supported profiles of a bluetooth device show a2dp if that's being used? | 04:04 |
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| adeel | anyone know of some documentation that details how to roll your own custom image for the nokia810? | 04:39 |
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| tank-man | gtb, they are probably text files you can edit | 06:35 |
| gtb | i mean like, which runlevel is default or what the existing ones do | 06:37 |
| tank-man | im guessing /etc/inittab shows the default runlevel | 06:39 |
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| sarower | hello...........good morning | 07:50 |
| sarower | i am using maemo c++ to develop an application. I need to connect two devices / emulator to send data from one to another through internet. | 07:51 |
| sarower | What should i use.. which technique...i have to follow | 07:51 |
| sarower | Any body can help? | 07:51 |
| LiraNuna | server/client? | 07:51 |
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| sarower | LiraNuna: not server client actually! | 08:19 |
| sarower | two way communication.... | 08:20 |
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| sarower | LiraNuna: will it work if i use BSD Sockets Interface | 08:22 |
| sarower | ? | 08:22 |
| LiraNuna | I believe so | 08:22 |
| LiraNuna | maemo is based on gnu/linux | 08:22 |
| sarower | yes | 08:22 |
| LiraNuna | so just treat it as a "linux computer" | 08:22 |
| sarower | LiraNuna: hmm.... | 08:23 |
| sarower | but i have no such concrete solution in my hand | 08:23 |
| sarower | if you have...or any other referrence | 08:24 |
| sarower | then it would be helpful for mr | 08:24 |
| sarower | LiraNuna! | 08:24 |
| LiraNuna | I'm sorry I don't have anything similar | 08:24 |
| sarower | hmm thanks | 08:25 |
| LiraNuna | what is your goal? | 08:26 |
| LiraNuna | adhoc? (Nokia-to-Nokia communication) or client-server ? | 08:27 |
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| sarower | between two internet tablet..... | 08:33 |
| sarower | LiraNuna! | 08:33 |
| LiraNuna | sarower, have you tried bluetooth? | 08:34 |
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| sarower | let me describe the matter | 08:34 |
| LiraNuna | NIT -> internet -> NIT might not be fast and might limit in situations where Wifi isn't available | 08:34 |
| sarower | i want to develop an application where the application will run in suppose two internet tablet...with internet connection | 08:35 |
| sarower | then i want to send data from one to another and vice versa | 08:36 |
| LiraNuna | why is the internet connection a must? | 08:36 |
| Luke-Jr | sarower: why require the internet connection? | 08:36 |
| LiraNuna | sarower, you can do that with bluetooth | 08:37 |
| sarower | other wise how to establish connection... | 08:37 |
| Luke-Jr | sarower: BlueTooth or adhoc WiFi | 08:37 |
| sarower | the two device may be anywhere in the worls | 08:37 |
| Luke-Jr | depending on range needed | 08:37 |
| Luke-Jr | oh | 08:37 |
| Luke-Jr | sarower: how about supporting all 3? | 08:38 |
| Luke-Jr | hmm | 08:38 |
| Luke-Jr | someone should abstract that | 08:38 |
| Luke-Jr | p2p mesh via BT/WiFi + Internet | 08:38 |
| LiraNuna | Luke-Jr, it's hard to abstract when you need an internet gateway | 08:38 |
| Luke-Jr | though adhoc WiFi conflicts w/ Internet | 08:38 |
| LiraNuna | yeah | 08:38 |
| LiraNuna | maybe a wifi/bluetooth adhoc | 08:38 |
| Luke-Jr | well, not entirely | 08:38 |
| LiraNuna | library | 08:39 |
| Luke-Jr | you can have adhoc and internet Wifi as long as the same channel | 08:39 |
| LiraNuna | Luke-Jr, you can have tether with bluetooth while wifi adhoc? | 08:39 |
| Luke-Jr | if the other user has internet also, they can talk over the net | 08:39 |
| Luke-Jr | if the other user lacks internet, they can switch to your channel | 08:39 |
| LiraNuna | of course that could be done automatically | 08:39 |
| LiraNuna | :) | 08:39 |
| Luke-Jr | yeah | 08:39 |
| Luke-Jr | but | 08:40 |
| Luke-Jr | makes scanning harder I guess | 08:40 |
| LiraNuna | just setup magic words | 08:40 |
| LiraNuna | LIBNITADHOC-CH11 | 08:40 |
| sarower | to use p2p with internet what kind of API support or library i may have to establish the connection | 08:40 |
| sarower | and then data transfering things will come | 08:40 |
| sarower | i think you are not catching my point..actually i am talking about an appplication development | 08:41 |
| sarower | not using internet tablet | 08:41 |
| sarower | or internet or BT in the device | 08:41 |
| Luke-Jr | sarower: we're beyond your poin | 08:42 |
| Luke-Jr | we're inventing our own mesh | 08:42 |
| Luke-Jr | :D | 08:42 |
| sarower | my application will establish connection between two device through internet | 08:42 |
| Luke-Jr | good for you, do it | 08:42 |
| sarower | and then exchange data in between them | 08:42 |
| Luke-Jr | in the meantime, LiraNuna and I have something actually innovative to invent | 08:43 |
| LiraNuna | sarower, I believe any p2p library will work | 08:43 |
| sarower | hmm........ | 08:43 |
| sarower | thats the point | 08:44 |
| sarower | LiraNuna! | 08:44 |
| LiraNuna | no need to beep me | 08:44 |
| LiraNuna | I'm here | 08:44 |
| sarower | ok sorry! | 08:44 |
| LiraNuna | it might take me some time to reply since I'm a little busy | 08:45 |
| LiraNuna | but I'm here | 08:45 |
| sarower | ok | 08:46 |
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| thux | morning | 09:12 |
| thux | what device is that? does anyone know? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTeUbx_nnM4 | 09:13 |
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| Corsac | You need: Linux kernel 2.6.30; a computer with a Broadcom 5974, Stantum, NTrig or DiamondTouch surface (the HP TouchSmart tx2 has a Ntrig surface, but you need to get the appropriate firmware from the NTrig site); our NTrig, Stantum, or DiamondTouch driver, or the Broadcom 5974 driver from Henrik Rydberg; our demo code. | 09:19 |
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| Corsac | I'd bet for the HP TouchSmart tx2 | 09:19 |
| thux | looks nice | 09:20 |
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| Luke-Jr | Corsac: what's that for? | 09:20 |
| Corsac | Luke-Jr: see the url thux gave above | 09:20 |
| Luke-Jr | I'm too lazy to go to the trouble to view Youtube crap.. | 09:20 |
| Corsac | and that's from the project website | 09:20 |
| Corsac | ha | 09:20 |
| Corsac | multitouch in compiz | 09:21 |
| Luke-Jr | oh, nothing useful? | 09:21 |
| Corsac | http://lii-enac.fr/ (french) | 09:21 |
| Luke-Jr | why does it care about wifi hardware? O.o | 09:21 |
| Corsac | wifi hardware? | 09:21 |
| Luke-Jr | Broadcom | 09:21 |
| Corsac | are you sure broadcom *only* makes wifi hardware? | 09:22 |
| Luke-Jr | no, they make more | 09:22 |
| thux | compiz is cool when device is slow like my 701, but any faster device i won't use it | 09:22 |
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| Corsac | well the demo is slow anyway because they read from /dev/input/eventX and then send a dbus message to compiz to activate the effect | 09:24 |
| Luke-Jr | that seems like the best possible way to do that | 09:24 |
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| Corsac | I'm not sure completely bypassing X input layer is a good idea | 09:25 |
| Corsac | though it's the only way at the moment | 09:25 |
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| * Luke-Jr ponders treating the N8x0 touchscreen as a 'synaptic' mouse | 09:29 | |
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| ds3 | p | 09:43 |
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| Stskeeps | Luke-Jr: -synaptic does that.. | 09:47 |
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| Luke-Jr | Stskeeps: eh? | 09:50 |
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| Stskeeps | xserver-xorg-input-synaptics if installed is convinced n8x0 touchscreen is a synaptics touchpad | 09:56 |
| Luke-Jr | interesting | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | annoying rather | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | blows up ts support | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | feel free to tame it | 09:59 |
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| thux | could you use tablet as bt-mouse with that input-synaptics? | 10:07 |
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| thux | some program act like remote bt-device | 10:08 |
| thux | remote control | 10:09 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:49 |
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| sarower | i am using maemo c++ to develop an application. I need to connect two devices (Internet tablet) / emulator (For PC) to send data from one to another through internet. | 12:07 |
| sarower | how i can do that? any library or API reference? | 12:08 |
| sarower | Any body else... | 12:08 |
| sarower | There who can help me. | 12:08 |
| sarower | !! | 12:08 |
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| ShadowJK | if both are connectable on the internet, standard bsd sockets api applies.. | 12:09 |
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| ShadowJK | http://beej.us/guide/bgnet/ | 12:10 |
| ShadowJK | I don't know, but I would guess that maemo comes with extra stuff to poke the device into establishing wlan connection if no connectivity currently available | 12:10 |
| qwerty12 | That'd be: http://maemo.org/api_refs/4.0/libconic/index.html :) | 12:11 |
| ShadowJK | http://maemo.org/maemo_release_documentation/maemo4.1.x/node10.html | 12:11 |
| ShadowJK | heh | 12:11 |
| RST38h | I think he is asking a wrong question | 12:13 |
| ShadowJK | that's very likely :) | 12:15 |
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| sarower | ShadowJK: suppose i want to connect two emulator in two different pc. What should i do? | 12:21 |
| lcuk | sarower, you would do the same as if they werent in an emulator | 12:25 |
| lcuk | and not expect magical ether connections to work unless ip connectivity is available | 12:26 |
| lcuk | or some other tunnel | 12:26 |
| sarower | luck: yah.. i have internet connection | 12:27 |
| sarower | IP connection | 12:27 |
| sarower | you just tell the programming concept... | 12:27 |
| sarower | at least i want to hit the right point of my study | 12:27 |
| sarower | i am not wanting the concrete solution | 12:28 |
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| mib_5kqzf7 | i don't why there are so many function Eclipse can't recognize. | 12:36 |
| wazd | I've suddenly came up with interesting input concept | 12:36 |
| mib_5kqzf7 | what? | 12:37 |
| wazd | What if the screen could sense your finger aproaching to it but without actual touch | 12:37 |
| wazd | Close field IR or something | 12:38 |
| robtaylor | wazd: proximity sensor | 12:38 |
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| robtaylor | wazd: its quite easy to do, same techniques as old touch switches | 12:39 |
| lcuk | thats what the wacom does | 12:39 |
| * lcuk shouldv embedded a magnet in his finger when he had the chance | 12:39 | |
| robtaylor | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximity_sensor | 12:39 |
| robtaylor | wazd: i hear the iphone 3gs might have one(!) | 12:40 |
| lcuk | mornin rob | 12:40 |
| wazd | it's not the same thing | 12:40 |
| lcuk | thats a reality distortion field | 12:40 |
| robtaylor | lcuk: morn | 12:40 |
| wazd | it's for detecting your head and turn off the touchscreen | 12:40 |
| robtaylor | wazd: indeed, but its the same thing | 12:40 |
| lcuk | so you dont use your ear to disconnect ppl :D | 12:40 |
| X-Fade | wazd: And normally used for turning off the handsfree mode. | 12:41 |
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| lcuk | not really, thats a single sensor - i think wazd meant to allow hovering over links and stuff | 12:41 |
| robtaylor | oh, i see | 12:41 |
| lcuk | X-Fade, thanks for accepting :D | 12:41 |
| wazd | robtaylor: not really, my idea is to detect where the finger aproaches | 12:41 |
| robtaylor | no, that's hard | 12:41 |
| X-Fade | lcuk: Heh ;) Well, that is not a lot of work ;) | 12:41 |
| lcuk | keesj was showing me some camera motion tool - when you train it to detect colors you can control the mouse by waving | 12:41 |
| robtaylor | you'd get too much interference from passing fields to do anything accurate | 12:42 |
| wazd | so on aproach UI can slightly zoom in nearby zone | 12:42 |
| lcuk | wazd - i know the few lines of code in liqbase to do the zooming scrolling thing | 12:42 |
| wazd | would be cool for keyboards and surfing | 12:42 |
| lbt | pressure is very similar | 12:42 |
| lcuk | and i think it will work really well | 12:42 |
| lbt | and actually works today | 12:42 |
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| wazd | nah, there's nothing to do with software | 12:43 |
| lcuk | as you scroll im gonna make the list just zoom out slightly, the faster you scroll, the more it zooms out | 12:43 |
| lcuk | so you get more of an over view :) | 12:43 |
| wazd | No, my idea is not what you're describing :) | 12:43 |
| lcuk | i know that, but you just mentioned zooming in and out | 12:44 |
| lcuk | what you are describing is not possible yet | 12:44 |
| wazd | lcuk: cool anyway :) | 12:44 |
| lcuk | what i am is just a few lines of code ;) | 12:44 |
| lbt | it is possible | 12:44 |
| lcuk | to detect hovering over the touchscreen? | 12:44 |
| lbt | essentially yes | 12:44 |
| lbt | but with a 1mm offset | 12:45 |
| X-Fade | lcuk: Using the accel sensors you can also zoom when you notice that somebody is moving the device up to his face ;) | 12:45 |
| wazd | since finger has a charge, don't think that it's too hard to detect it | 12:45 |
| lbt | so when you touch it isn't a touch | 12:45 |
| lcuk | X-Fade, yah i know, theres other thingfs you can do with the accels :) | 12:45 |
| lbt | until you go 1mm *below* the touchscreen | 12:45 |
| lbt | by pushing | 12:45 |
| lbt | if you want to actually play with the idea | 12:46 |
| lbt | instead of wishing the harware was different ;) | 12:46 |
| lcuk | you just broke the paradigm, it will not be possible to get it right all the time | 12:46 |
| lcuk | its same problem as os2007 auto detect thumb vs autodetect stylus | 12:46 |
| lcuk | it works sometimes, but fails enough to frustrate some users | 12:46 |
| X-Fade | But using motions over the camera could actually be a good thing for scrolling, page flipping etc. | 12:46 |
| X-Fade | And probably not even very hard to implement. | 12:47 |
| lcuk | X-Fade, i do a lot of handwaving ;) i was messing with using a barcode rectangle to do that months ago | 12:47 |
| lcuk | no, its easy | 12:47 |
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| * lcuk will bbiab tho | 12:48 | |
| X-Fade | Although it will take quite some power probably. | 12:48 |
| wazd | X-Fade: well, you can't do the same thing as, for example, mouse sensor | 12:48 |
| wazd | X-Fade: cause front camera has no backlight | 12:48 |
| X-Fade | wazd: Hmm can it spot IR? | 12:48 |
| wazd | so when you touch it with finger it will detect just black | 12:49 |
| X-Fade | wazd: Sure, but you have to hover over it. | 12:49 |
| X-Fade | wazd: Not completely block it. | 12:49 |
| wazd | X-Fade: possible but not quite comfy I guess :) | 12:50 |
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| X-Fade | wazd: Hold your N810 and keep your thumb above the camera. It is not that bad? | 12:50 |
| wazd | and focal range is important too | 12:50 |
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| wazd | maybe n810 camera can't focus on objets in less than 1m or something | 12:51 |
| X-Fade | wazd: For direction tracking it should not be that big of a problem. You only need to detect edges. | 12:52 |
| X-Fade | wazd: And those may be blurry :) | 12:52 |
| wazd | the best thing for scrolling is fingerprint scanner :) | 12:53 |
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| X-Fade | wazd: Which is also a camera. | 12:54 |
| wazd | X-Fade: well, technicaly :) | 12:54 |
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| wazd | mouse sensor is a camera too :) | 12:58 |
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| RST38h | moo all | 13:12 |
| wazd | RST38h: heya | 13:12 |
| qwerty12 | wazd: Fixed no keyboard on join channel window in XChat, I'll upload a new build to extras-devel later | 13:14 |
| qwerty12 | moo RST38h | 13:14 |
| wazd | qwerty12: cool, thanks! | 13:14 |
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| lbt | X-Fade: hi | 13:33 |
| X-Fade | lbt: hi | 13:34 |
| lbt | having a problem with svg to png conversion : http://wiki.maemo.org/Image:Mer_workflow-option2.svg | 13:34 |
| X-Fade | lbt: Yeah, I saw that already ;) | 13:34 |
| X-Fade | lbt: Kind of a mess ;) | 13:34 |
| lbt | cool... would you like a bug report? | 13:34 |
| lbt | (it's OK when you click through isn't it?) | 13:35 |
| X-Fade | lbt: Well, that is probably mediawiki conversion.. | 13:35 |
| X-Fade | lbt: yeah, the actual svg is ok. | 13:35 |
| lbt | yeah... so it maybe that I should just convert locally and not waste your time... :) | 13:35 |
| X-Fade | lbt: Need to check what tool does the conversion. | 13:36 |
| lbt | as per http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build/UsingGitorious | 13:36 |
| lcuk | lbt, convert locally for now, but deffo mark a bug if possible, help others in future where possible :) | 13:36 |
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| lbt | X-Fade: also wanted to ask about a maemo.org Mer machine as per quick chat at CPH | 13:42 |
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| lcuk | what would you sleepy people be doing if you DIDN'T have a maemo device | 16:49 |
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| GAN800 | lcuk, working. | 16:57 |
| lcuk | are you working now? | 16:58 |
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| lcuk | GAN800, to expand on an idea lbt had - if you are working and have multiple devices, i dare you to leave one hidden behind a book shelf (pref religious) with ssh and speakers connected | 16:59 |
| lcuk | randomly from the other device you should make spooky sayings | 16:59 |
| lcuk | so when the fruitloops come into the store they will hear god! | 17:00 |
| lcuk | your sales will skyrocket | 17:00 |
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| GAN800 | lcuk, one of those nuts would start smearing feces on the walls. | 17:01 |
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| johns_ | Hi | 17:03 |
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| lcuk | ewwww GAN800 yeah you said | 17:09 |
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| lcuk | you could promote good manners tho | 17:09 |
| lcuk | hi johns_ | 17:09 |
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| * b-man16 wonders if it is possible to port DirectFB to the tablets | 17:15 | |
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| lcuk | b-man16, shouldnt be an issue, just make it interface with omapfb i think | 17:27 |
| b-man16 | lcuk: how should i do that? | 17:29 |
| lcuk | i dunno, you are the master brain! | 17:29 |
| lcuk | and when you get directfb working make sure you port webos to it | 17:29 |
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| GAN800 | lol, lbt, the Mer workflow looks like a subway map. :P | 17:30 |
| b-man16 | lol, shure | 17:30 |
| lbt | GAN800: yeah, it does doesn't it.... needs a timetable now ;) | 17:31 |
| lcuk | b-man16, damn i thought you were in 'liqbase lol | 17:32 |
| b-man16 | heh | 17:32 |
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| gnuton | Hi there | 17:35 |
| b-man16 | hello | 17:37 |
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| lbt | gnuton: hey... | 17:38 |
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| lbt | we have wonderful fingerscrolling and thanks to fiferboy, great bounce and even 'header bounce' in tables | 17:39 |
| * lbt really needs to make a video | 17:39 | |
| lbt | gnuton: we're desperate for you to post up to gitorious though.... | 17:40 |
| fiferboy | lbt: I'll try to borrow a video camera | 17:40 |
| lbt | fiferboy: np, I have one here | 17:40 |
| fiferboy | Ok, good | 17:40 |
| lbt | I just need to do it | 17:40 |
| fiferboy | Tables with both horizontal and vertical headers look cool during bounce | 17:41 |
| gnuton | lbt: I'm working on.. | 17:42 |
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| lbt | good good.... but I want it NOW | 17:43 |
| lcuk | lbt, the scaling thing i mentioned isnt practical in qt is it | 17:43 |
| gnuton | lbt: give me still some hour... :D | 17:44 |
| gnuton | lbt: hours | 17:44 |
| fiferboy | lcuk: Maybe when we have openGLE widgets... | 17:44 |
| lbt | gnuton: hey, that soon would be great... we can attack it this weekend then | 17:44 |
| gnuton | lbt: yes | 17:44 |
| lbt | thanks :) | 17:44 |
| gnuton | lbt: you are welcome. | 17:44 |
| lcuk | fiferboy, if your code is fast enough to do kinetics, why cant it just adjust the scale slightly? | 17:45 |
| gnuton | lbt: btw thanks to you and andrew for your work! | 17:45 |
| lbt | gnuton: not for now.... but I'm looking at DVCS/packaging http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build/UsingGitorious | 17:45 |
| * lcuk will be testing it tonight anyway - i have devkit back up and running \o/ | 17:45 | |
| gnuton | lbt: okay ;D | 17:46 |
| fiferboy | lcuk: "fast enough to do kinetics" in some cases is just fast enough to do it with quite noticable staggering | 17:46 |
| lcuk | ahhh :( | 17:46 |
| lbt | gnuton: it would be good to break the Qt patches into feature branches (one day) | 17:46 |
| lcuk | fiferboy, but i gather it will be super slick on the faster new hardware | 17:46 |
| lbt | that diagram looks complex... but it really isn't... promise | 17:47 |
| fiferboy | David said it ran really nicely on the hardware at cph | 17:47 |
| gnuton | lbt: I'm already doing that... | 17:47 |
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| lcuk | fiferboy, have you run qt with this stuff on laptops etc (ive got a touchscreen lappy slate thing here), does it work well when you play on that sort of class hardware | 17:48 |
| * lcuk runs his x41 in powersave mode - 800mhz | 17:48 | |
| lbt | so you should have 2-3 distro branches Diablo/Fremantle(/Mer) for the debian/ directory | 17:48 |
| gnuton | lbt actually we will have different branches for the features. (Style, input method and so on | 17:49 |
| gnuton | ) | 17:49 |
| lbt | and has all your features branched off upstream and merged in to master | 17:49 |
| lbt | yes, eg mer/foo mer/bar are features | 17:49 |
| gnuton | and several branches for each distro (diablo, fremantle, mer) | 17:49 |
| fiferboy | lcuk: When I test in scratchbox it works nicely. I have only ever compiled the finger scrolling in "hildon" compiles | 17:49 |
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| lcuk | ahhh fiferboy, it should just work thou on x86 and windows and linux shouldnt it? | 17:50 |
| gnuton | lbt: pvt | 17:50 |
| lbt | excellent stuff gnuton... :) glad we're in sync | 17:50 |
| fiferboy | lcuk: Yes, but I haven't felt like building most of Qt in those environments (yet) | 17:51 |
| fiferboy | Also, the fingerscrolling code right now is in #ifdef Q_WS_HILDON blocks | 17:51 |
| lcuk | ahhh why tho - technically its a nice feature for people with any kind of slate - would it not be better with a specific #define of X_Y_FINGER_SCROLL | 17:52 |
| lcuk | damn must dash | 17:53 |
| fiferboy | later | 17:53 |
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| fiferboy | lbt: That diagram isn't complex? | 17:54 |
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| lbt | fiferboy: http://wiki.maemo.org/images/e/eb/Mer_workflow-option2.svg <-- complex one | 17:57 |
| lbt | wait 'til we write up the Qt one... | 17:57 |
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| wazd | what for are these diagrams? | 17:59 |
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| fiferboy | lbt: I think I kind of get it, but I still haven't wrapped my head around the collaboration of git | 18:06 |
| fiferboy | wazd: They show the workflow of developing with git | 18:06 |
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| lbt | fiferboy: I'm going to do a write-up... essentially each mer/* branch is a patch against upstream that adds a feature (eg fingerscrolling) | 18:09 |
| lbt | the point is to keep seperation | 18:09 |
| fiferboy | So if I am working from the master and want to compile all the feature changes, I merge in all the branches and compile? | 18:10 |
| lbt | a lot of this is packaging work | 18:10 |
| lbt | a developer who wants to add a feature | 18:10 |
| lbt | would clone | 18:10 |
| lbt | then locally make a branch off master | 18:10 |
| lbt | then develop a feature | 18:10 |
| lbt | then submit that branch to pkgers | 18:11 |
| lbt | and we'd apply it to a new feature branch | 18:11 |
| fiferboy | Ok, and if I want to make a change to an existing branch? | 18:11 |
| lbt | (or use git tricks to cherry pick) | 18:11 |
| lbt | why? | 18:11 |
| lbt | eg fix a bug in finger scroll? | 18:11 |
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| fiferboy | Say I want to change something in fingerscrolling? | 18:11 |
| lbt | same process | 18:12 |
| lbt | but we don't create a new feature branch | 18:12 |
| lbt | we add a commit to fingerscroll | 18:12 |
| lbt | this is not a development workflow | 18:13 |
| fiferboy | I'm getting it | 18:13 |
| lbt | it's a package management and patch management workflow | 18:13 |
| fiferboy | Ok | 18:13 |
| lbt | dev workflow exists alongside.... | 18:13 |
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| andre__ | anybody knows about the "officiality" state of python support in fremantle? because in diablo it was not officially supported | 18:25 |
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| Stskeeps | not intentionally in sdk, i think | 18:29 |
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| Stskeeps | i might be positively wrong | 18:29 |
| johnsQ | shouldn't the bootmenu use fullscreen and zoom+ , zoom- to choose the entry? | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | no, dpad | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | 770,n800 way | 18:32 |
| johnsQ | I patched mine, then i can use both. | 18:32 |
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| Stskeeps | k | 18:32 |
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| johnsQ | so microsd card works, but i have to insert/remove sometimes :( | 18:38 |
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| GAN800 | andre__, not official. | 18:40 |
| VDVsx | interesting, some months ago, I saw some jobs at maemo R&D about python bindings o_0 | 18:43 |
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| andre__ | GAN800, okay | 18:50 |
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| t_s_o | hmm, cortex... | 18:59 |
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| GAN800 | VDVsx, who do you think pays gnuton's salary? :P | 19:15 |
| VDVsx | GAN800, gnuton isn't a qt dev | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | eh. he's nokian | 19:17 |
| VDVsx | I know working on qt | 19:17 |
| VDVsx | I guess | 19:17 |
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| user_ | is it possible to update extra repo sometimes today? | 19:20 |
| Stskeeps | noone moves to helsinki without a good pay in sight :P | 19:21 |
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| user_ | lol | 19:22 |
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| VDVsx | Stskeeps, some people like dark and cold places :P | 19:23 |
| Stskeeps | ah, right, geeks with pcs to warm them | 19:23 |
| VDVsx | lol | 19:24 |
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| slonopotamus | maybe someone wants to pay me without moving to cold places? :) | 19:25 |
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| * VDVsx likes to have 40º in the summer :) | 19:25 | |
| slonopotamus | 30º is acceptable :) especially with beer | 19:26 |
| user_ | or blunt lol | 19:26 |
| user_ | hehe | 19:26 |
| lcuk | VDVsx, 40º beer is yucky! | 19:28 |
| VDVsx | eheheh | 19:28 |
| lcuk | slonopotamus, they will pay you without you needing to move to cold places, but the daily commute will be a bitch | 19:29 |
| slonopotamus | daily commute - ? /me looks up dictionary | 19:29 |
| johnsQ | slonopotamus: your overlay can be added through layman | 19:30 |
| slonopotamus | johnsQ, is that a question? | 19:31 |
| johnsQ | slonopotamus: no a note, that it is possible, i tried to leave a comment on your page put got an error | 19:31 |
| slonopotamus | hmm | 19:31 |
| slonopotamus | spammers leave them :) | 19:32 |
| slonopotamus | i think you should be able too | 19:32 |
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| user_ | any idea when extra repo be updated cause now its since 2 weeks now whitout updates??? | 19:35 |
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| johnsQ | user_: be happy, no update, no broken packages. | 19:36 |
| user_ | hum | 19:37 |
| user_ | we have a date for next update? | 19:37 |
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| slonopotamus | wow | 19:45 |
| slonopotamus | johnsQ, didn't know. possibly luke added it | 19:46 |
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| slonopotamus | johnsQ, thanks, will update wiki | 19:46 |
| johnsQ | yes, i currently cross compile n8x0-env. | 19:46 |
| slonopotamus | cross? didn't like pre-cross-compiled image? | 19:47 |
| johnsQ | slonopotamus: emerge git layman; layman | 19:47 |
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| johnsQ | slonopotamus: i haven't seen ready image, but i have time. i have here 486 machines with gentoo. | 19:48 |
| slonopotamus | err | 19:48 |
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| slonopotamus | jonsQ, http://slonopotamus.org/gentoo-on-n8x0#resources first link | 19:49 |
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| johnsQ | slonopotamus: yes, i started with this, but the ebuild of the overlay wasn't included. | 19:51 |
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| slonopotamus | 'build of the overlay' - ? | 19:51 |
| slonopotamus | argh | 19:51 |
| slonopotamus | 'ebuild of the overlay' - ? | 19:51 |
| slonopotamus | johnsQ, beware, last time i crosscompiled, there were troubles with python modules | 19:52 |
| lopz | hola | 19:53 |
| johnsQ | to boot on the card i need the ebuild nit-bootshell, linuxrc wasn't in the minimal archive | 19:53 |
| slonopotamus | wait | 19:53 |
| slonopotamus | linuxrc is installed by nit-boot-basics. or smth like that | 19:54 |
| slonopotamus | basic idea is to download, unpack, chroot, setup required stuff, then boot | 19:54 |
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| slonopotamus | on tablet | 19:54 |
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| slonopotamus | of course, you can use crossdev/qemu/distcc for crosscompiling | 19:55 |
| johnsQ | slonopotamus: i'm testing with the other card on the device, meanwhile i compile with qemu-arm | 19:55 |
| * slonopotamus still doesn't know how to setup qemu-arm :D | 19:56 | |
| slonopotamus | johnsQ, could you write small howto for qemu? | 19:56 |
| johnsQ | slonopotamus: its easy, you must only fix the gentoo ebuild to make a static version | 19:56 |
| slonopotamus | Lutz "johns" Sammer | 19:57 |
| slonopotamus | that's you? | 19:57 |
| johnsQ | slonopotamus: also build busybox static. yes that i | 19:57 |
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| slonopotamus | your comment was added, they're just screened | 19:57 |
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| slonopotamus | unscreened it | 19:58 |
| slonopotamus | tons of spam, need to setup some captcha | 19:59 |
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| johnsQ | slonopotamus: okay got some error and thought comments was disabled because of spam | 19:59 |
| slonopotamus | johnsQ, comments plugin is somewhat... unstable :) | 20:00 |
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| DHR | my filters flag mail with subjects encoded in non-ASCII as spam. I just got mail from a Mac that said its subject was encoded in WINDOWS-1252 although all characters were in 7-bit ascii. Any idea why? | 20:02 |
| slonopotamus | we need more programmers. there are too mmany packagers around tablets, but all they do is just repackage same apps | 20:02 |
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| johnsQ | slonopotamus: I will later write howto setup qemu with gentoo and tell you the link. | 20:04 |
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| slonopotamus | johnsQ, thx. if you plan to play with gentoo on n8x0, i can give you access to wiki/git | 20:05 |
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| GAN800 | VDVsx, anyway, my point is that Nokia pays money for things which aren't official. | 20:23 |
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| VDVsx | GAN800, and pyMaemo is one of them (INdt) :P | 20:32 |
| lcuk | GAN800, is that like having "business expenses" on your credit card bill | 20:33 |
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| wazd_n800 | I'm back!) | 21:47 |
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| lcuk | wazd_n800 hi, did i see something about new x-chat update | 21:47 |
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| wazd_n800 | lcuk, well, qwerty12 told that he has fixed initial action pop-up input | 21:48 |
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| lcuk | yeah - it was a bit annoying, even with n810 | 21:49 |
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| lcuk | i didnt know aqnyone was maintaining it tho lol, so i just put up | 21:49 |
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| wazd_n800 | I've just tested n97 | 21:51 |
| lcuk | yeah | 21:51 |
| wazd_n800 | in our Nokia flagship store | 21:51 |
| lcuk | hows it feel | 21:51 |
| lcuk | heh - i once walked in a nokia store and asked to see the new touchscreen device, the guy looked at me like i was mad | 21:52 |
| lcuk | "we don't have any touchscreen phones here" | 21:52 |
| cmug | It is symbian so what do you think? | 21:52 |
| wazd_n800 | surprisingly pretty responsive, even with ancient hardware | 21:52 |
| lcuk | i dunno | 21:52 |
| lcuk | i dont own a nokia phone | 21:52 |
| cmug | :-/ | 21:53 |
| * lcuk owns a shitty crappy phone which was cheap | 21:53 | |
| wazd_n800 | haven't played too much though, just look and feel testing | 21:53 |
| cmug | there are plenty of nokian's that are crappy and not cheap | 21:53 |
| wazd_n800 | I hope to use it more at the Nokia Mobile Camp on sunday | 21:54 |
| lcuk | cool | 21:54 |
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| lcuk | are you taking your n8x0 | 21:54 |
| wazd_n800 | well, to be fair, there are many cheap and cool nokia's also) | 21:54 |
| lcuk | +1 agreed | 21:55 |
| wazd_n800 | my 2630 is pretty nice cheapphone | 21:55 |
| wazd_n800 | ultrathin, strudy, cheap like crap) | 21:55 |
| wazd_n800 | If I and RST38h will fill one person with enough beer, maybe we will even use new tablet ))) | 21:57 |
| wazd_n800 | At least this person claims that he has it | 21:57 |
| lcuk | wont he pull out an n97 lol | 21:58 |
| wazd_n800 | nono, he knows what tablet is =) | 21:58 |
| glass | buy vodka shots | 21:59 |
| glass | faster | 21:59 |
| wazd_n800 | He can just not bring it to the camp | 21:59 |
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| wazd_n800 | I think there will be no vodka there) At least oficially =) | 21:59 |
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| glass | ok, pour vodka from your traditional finnish secret bottle | 22:00 |
| lcuk | isnt that international espionage tho | 22:01 |
| wazd_n800 | last time I checked I wasn't Finnish =)) | 22:01 |
| glass | isn't drinking always | 22:01 |
| lcuk | the nokia camera phones will be trained upon you whilst you are all playing | 22:01 |
| glass | wazd_n800: ok, explains why you thought beer would work :D | 22:02 |
| wazd_n800 | I'm from Moscow xD | 22:02 |
| glass | oh wtf then :D | 22:02 |
| LinuxCode | wazd_n800, even more a reason to say you are finiish | 22:03 |
| wazd_n800 | Bears, vodka, matryoshka'n'stuff =) | 22:03 |
| LinuxCode | to participate in the game of international espionage and subversion | 22:03 |
| glass | yeah finland is traditional place for that stuff | 22:03 |
| glass | proletariat unite! and all | 22:03 |
| lcuk | isnt it "international espionage and git" nowadays? | 22:03 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 22:04 |
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| LinuxCode | git as in version control ? | 22:04 |
| wazd_n800 | glass: personally I don't like vodka. Well, I like expensive one but it's too expensive in here =( | 22:04 |
| lcuk | well that as well lol | 22:04 |
| glass | wazd_n800: ah yeh you got it on tap in moscow | 22:04 |
| wazd_n800 | Well, that guy said tt he got this device from someone in nokia r'n'd | 22:05 |
| glass | wazd_n800: some russian grocery store vodka mixes were great though, and a price that couldn't be beat(when i was in st petersburg) | 22:05 |
| lcuk | http://bakonvodka.com/ | 22:05 |
| glass | wazd_n800: redbull was more expensive than energy drink with 8% in it | 22:05 |
| * lcuk thanks kot for introducing him to a new drinking buddy | 22:05 | |
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| wazd_n800 | lcuk: eeeewwww! | 22:05 |
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| lcuk | well it all drips out when i pour it on my BLT at dinner time | 22:06 |
| lcuk | and home made bacon vodka is a bit weird, not used to straining rind through my teeth whilst drinking | 22:06 |
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| wazd_n800 | Absolut Mandrine ftw) | 22:07 |
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| lcuk | how do you manage to pour the wine into an orange without spilling it? | 22:08 |
| lcuk | vodka ^ | 22:08 |
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| wazd_n800 | lcuk: btw, talking bout your «nowhere to hide from it» liqbase search. Is it not functional on n800 | 22:09 |
| wazd_n800 | ? | 22:09 |
| lcuk | yeah, its in a proto state | 22:09 |
| lcuk | the package however isnt | 22:09 |
| lcuk | its instant filtering on text (as i show in the vid) but the images needs better caching to work in the general case | 22:10 |
| lcuk | oooh - infact on n800 lol no it wont :D | 22:11 |
| lcuk | you cant type | 22:11 |
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| wazd_n800 | pity | 22:12 |
| lcuk | the filtering effect works really well tho, and when i get coding im gonna try that scaling thing | 22:13 |
| lcuk | the more i think about it, the more i think it will work really really well | 22:13 |
| wazd_n800 | why don't you consider to make liqbase some kind of SDK to build separatr apps with it? | 22:13 |
| lcuk | i have been doing :) | 22:13 |
| lcuk | libliqbase just arrived on garage its being setup now | 22:13 |
| lcuk | libliqbase is in extras-devel | 22:13 |
| lcuk | and liqbase-playground includes everything needed to create multiple standalone apps | 22:14 |
| wazd_n800 | i'm in the train now, so I'll test it tomorrow) | 22:14 |
| lcuk | heh you wont prolly cos the package isnt running correctly - its not an end user thing yet :) | 22:14 |
| wazd_n800 | cool, can't wait to see some real stuff on it) | 22:15 |
| lcuk | i have real stuff in it | 22:15 |
| lcuk | i have a memory :) | 22:15 |
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| lcuk | but the management of the bits isnt complete yet | 22:16 |
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| wazd_n800 | I mean some mature standalone app | 22:16 |
| lcuk | and theres still much work to do, this is a test build | 22:16 |
| lcuk | you might be surprised by how nicely the little pieces slot together wazd | 22:17 |
| lcuk | and how fluent the system works as a whole | 22:18 |
| wazd_n800 | I like Nokia style. Quim asked bout te status of F-Stars developement. | 22:18 |
| wazd_n800 | lcuk: yep, someone has told me same thing yesterday) Oh, it was you xD | 22:19 |
| wazd_n800 | lcuk: you're really overexcited bout liqbase :)) | 22:19 |
| lcuk | wazd, im pleased about how well my code is working :) | 22:21 |
| wazd_n800 | lcuk: no you're not =) You're really hot bout it =)) | 22:22 |
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| Stskeeps | wtf is nokia doing in confessions of a shopaholic.. | 22:27 |
| VDVsx | eheh | 22:27 |
| VDVsx | Stskeeps, Hollywood marketing | 22:28 |
| VDVsx | Stskeeps, they have a office there, just for this kind business (music videos + movies) | 22:29 |
| Stskeeps | scary | 22:29 |
| lcuk | i wonder when advertising in games will come | 22:30 |
| VDVsx | as a example, the 5800xm appeared 10+ music videos so far | 22:30 |
| lcuk | have gordon freeman whip out a nokia | 22:30 |
| GAN800 | WTF is Stskeeps watching Confessions of a Shopaholic? | 22:31 |
| VDVsx | I saw that movie :P | 22:31 |
| VDVsx | shame on me | 22:31 |
| lcuk | hah good point gan | 22:31 |
| Stskeeps | GAN800: fiancee birthday | 22:31 |
| VDVsx | excuses... | 22:32 |
| lcuk | so you are sat watching a chic flick with your missus and typin on irc on your n800? | 22:32 |
| Stskeeps | n810 | 22:32 |
| lcuk | and shes ok with that ? lol | 22:33 |
| Stskeeps | gave her a n800.. | 22:33 |
| lcuk | dude, you should be giving her more than an n800 | 22:33 |
| lcuk | thats only 4 inches, you gotta at least let her have a smartq7 | 22:34 |
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| VDVsx | lcuk, lololol | 22:34 |
| Stskeeps | i don't appreciate your metaphor | 22:34 |
| lcuk | :D | 22:34 |
| lcuk | she doesnt either | 22:34 |
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| GAN800 | Hahaha | 22:35 |
| crashanddie_ | anyone noticed that the sarah conor chronicles and the beast are filled with blackberries? | 22:36 |
| fiferboy | lbt: qemu is way slower than scratchbox! | 22:36 |
| lcuk | only thing i notice about sarah connor chronicles is summar glau | 22:36 |
| lcuk | summer | 22:36 |
| lbt | fiferboy: err, yes | 22:36 |
| fiferboy | Oh well, hopefully it links | 22:36 |
| lbt | qemu emulates | 22:36 |
| fiferboy | Hopefully it gets to the linking stage | 22:37 |
| lbt | scratchbox uses native compilers and linkers | 22:37 |
| fiferboy | Well, I was hoping my home computer's better hardware would make up some of the difference | 22:37 |
| lbt | how many cores? | 22:37 |
| fiferboy | Just a dual | 22:37 |
| lbt | running -j2 ? | 22:37 |
| fiferboy | On the compile? | 22:38 |
| lbt | yes | 22:38 |
| fiferboy | Not unless it is in the debian/rules | 22:38 |
| lbt | you can do export DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="parallel=2" | 22:39 |
| crashanddie_ | or you could just run scratchbox | 22:39 |
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| fiferboy | I would have to do that before the dpkg-buildpackage, though | 22:39 |
| lbt | you can ^C | 22:40 |
| VDVsx | Stskeeps, anyway the movie is funny, and have a lot of reference to Finland and Nokia (pay attention to the beginning of the final credits :P ) | 22:40 |
| fiferboy | crashanddie: scratchbox doesn't want to link this huge file | 22:40 |
| lbt | and then re-run with -nc | 22:40 |
| crashanddie_ | lcuk: 188 | 22:40 |
| amr | i just had to reflash my tablet | 22:40 |
| fiferboy | lbt: Right, I am going to do that | 22:40 |
| amr | filled '/' :x | 22:40 |
| amr | i couldnt even remove anything | 22:40 |
| lbt | (there's no guarantee that qemu will either BTW) | 22:40 |
| lcuk | crashanddie, you have gone up by 10 | 22:40 |
| lbt | hmm... have you got enough swap? | 22:40 |
| lcuk | what happens when we reach infinity | 22:40 |
| crashanddie_ | lcuk: well, yeah, today :) | 22:40 |
| crashanddie_ | lcuk: number of hours I worked since thursday morning :) | 22:41 |
| crashanddie_ | err | 22:41 |
| crashanddie_ | tuesday | 22:41 |
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| fiferboy | lbt: I should be okay, I think. | 22:41 |
| fiferboy | 3 GB of SWAP | 22:42 |
| lcuk | what did you break? | 22:42 |
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| crashanddie_ | lcuk: nothing :) | 22:42 |
| lcuk | phew, you managed to blame someone else ;) whats up tho? | 22:42 |
| lcuk | well if you dont get some sleep you wont get that again | 22:43 |
| lcuk | cos you will be ummm crashedanddied | 22:43 |
| crashanddie_ | you do realise I said that in notice | 22:43 |
| crashanddie_ | and that nobody else saw that | 22:43 |
| lcuk | yeah which is why i didnt say what it was | 22:43 |
| lbt | we saw | 22:43 |
| crashanddie_ | ok, good :) | 22:43 |
| lcuk | its the weekend tho - you should get at least 4 hours kip | 22:44 |
| lcuk | you know what happens in the movies if you dont | 22:44 |
| crashanddie_ | lol | 22:44 |
| crashanddie_ | <-- still at the office | 22:44 |
| lcuk | infact sod that - even if you do | 22:45 |
| lcuk | sleeping bag | 22:45 |
| crashanddie_ | yeah i got one in my drawer | 22:45 |
| lcuk | Results 1 - 10 of about 3,390,000 for sleeping under desk. (0.43 seconds) | 22:45 |
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| lcuk | \o hey keesj | 22:58 |
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| lcuk | keesj, your camera tracking thing http://games.slashdot.org/story/09/06/12/0450237/Why-Natal-Is-a-Big-Deal?art_pos=13 | 22:59 |
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| florian | re | 23:00 |
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| keesj | hi lcuk | 23:05 |
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| xnt14 | ~seen b-man16 | 23:06 |
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| infobot | b-man16 <n=b-man@cpe-98-30-195-117.woh.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 5h 29m 36s ago, saying: 'hello'. | 23:06 |
| xnt14 | lol | 23:06 |
| xnt14 | just when I get home | 23:07 |
| xnt14 | one day of school left lol | 23:07 |
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| xnt14 | :) | 23:07 |
| * xnt14 has one day of school left :) | 23:07 | |
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| xnt14 | lol | 23:07 |
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| xnt14 | lol | 23:07 |
| * xnt14 launches his new site v2 | 23:08 | |
| xnt14 | done :) | 23:08 |
| xnt14 | http://xceleo.com | 23:08 |
| xnt14 | nit section coming soon :P | 23:08 |
| xnt14 | Guest20247: ping | 23:09 |
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| b-man16 | xnt14: pong | 23:10 |
| xnt14 | :) | 23:10 |
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| keesj | man xceleo.com | 23:20 |
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| keesj | no manual found | 23:20 |
| b-man16 | hm? | 23:21 |
| keesj | the navifation feels like my prefered window manager http://wmii.suckless.org/screenshots/wmii-20080117.png | 23:21 |
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| b-man16 | heh, nice :) | 23:22 |
| xnt14 | :) | 23:22 |
| xnt14 | tiled manager? | 23:23 |
| xnt14 | nice :) | 23:23 |
| * xnt14 was testing xmonad for a while | 23:23 | |
| xnt14 | the got homesick for gnome :P | 23:23 |
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| keesj | can't stand gnome but still use it becasue ubuntu really onlsupports that | 23:24 |
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| xnt14 | lol, im installing dwm on debian | 23:25 |
| keesj | if you don't run gnome you get all kinds of weird problems "firefox in offline mode","sound not working" | 23:25 |
| xnt14 | lol | 23:25 |
| xnt14 | xubuntu? | 23:26 |
| * xnt14 can't get used to kde | 23:26 | |
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| xnt14 | so ubuntu/xubuntu/debian only for now :P | 23:26 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | keesj: ran into the firefox one when I stopped using NetworkManager >.< | 23:27 |
| * keesj continues his search for locks in the house holing is lockpicking set and lockpicking book | 23:27 | |
| keesj | the network manager stuff can be put off in some "about:config" but WHY do they think I care about being offline | 23:28 |
| xnt14 | qwerty12_N800: 0.o | 23:28 |
| xnt14 | yup | 23:28 |
| xnt14 | one day my network flaked out and ff went into offline mode, and I was like who uses that :P | 23:29 |
| xnt14 | ofline mode | 23:29 |
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| keesj | and the sound is the pulse-audio thing that somehow doens't work, but there are more of those "great" fetures | 23:29 |
| * xnt14 hates typing with one hand | 23:29 | |
| xnt14 | like, the compiz problem | 23:29 |
| xnt14 | xfce + compiz = cube spining endlessly | 23:30 |
| xnt14 | :P | 23:30 |
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| b-man16 | lol | 23:36 |
| xnt14 | lol | 23:36 |
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| keesj | but my gnome/ubuntu anoyance level is getting higher and higer these days. | 23:44 |
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| keesj | an other good example "automount" is something I don't want. and every release it gets harder and harder to disable the thing | 23:44 |
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| keesj | the good old linux system did not have this problem | 23:45 |
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| ShadowJK | in debian and fedora you go through kde, xfce and gnome settings and disable automount :) | 23:46 |
| xnt14 | lol | 23:47 |
| xnt14 | same here | 23:47 |
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| keesj | under ubuntu it changes every time. this time I had to put a file in /etc/hal/fdi/policy to "silence the automounter" | 23:48 |
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