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| mateus | i'm sorry this question, scratchbox have is support the mamona? | 00:48 |
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| amr | hmm | 02:01 |
| amr | this doesn't bode well | 02:01 |
| amr | for the n810, whats the procedure for putting it away for a while | 02:01 |
| amr | i slide the key lock thing and then put it in the sleeve | 02:01 |
| amr | i've done it twice now and the battery has gone flat | 02:02 |
| ShadowJK | If you're connected to a wifi accesspoint that doesn't support, or has crappy wifi psm, the wireless will drain the battery in a few hours | 02:03 |
| amr | ah shit, i don't turn it into offline mode | 02:03 |
| amr | that's probably it | 02:03 |
| amr | i was used to my 770's slide turning it into "standby" and putting itself into offline mode | 02:03 |
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| amr | oh hrm, i did put it into offline mode | 02:08 |
| amr | i think | 02:08 |
| amr | heh | 02:08 |
| amr | well ill just see what happens tonight | 02:08 |
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| ShadowJK | check that bluetooth+gps is disabled | 02:09 |
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| ShadowJK | after offlining it and slide-lock, check again in an hour or two to see if it reconnected.. apps can request internet connectivity to be activated | 02:10 |
| ShadowJK | Though "Offline mode" from the powerbutton menu probably shouldn't allow that | 02:10 |
| amr | hmmms | 02:11 |
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| amr | ill have a tinker | 02:12 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Talk can burn. | 02:34 |
| lcuk | heh @ you writing that through gritted teeth gan :D | 02:36 |
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| GeneralAntilles | lcuk, I don't get the irrationality. | 02:41 |
| GeneralAntilles | It just makes me angry whenever I read topics there. | 02:42 |
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| lcuk | heh, find zen somewhere | 02:43 |
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| GeneralAntilles | lcuk, pretty much anywhere but Talk these days. | 02:45 |
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| amr | hi :) | 02:46 |
| lcuk | hiya amr | 02:46 |
| amr | next door's wifi, bed and irc | 02:47 |
| amr | life is good..... except for exams | 02:47 |
| GeneralAntilles | amr, the rtcomm beta may be a better solution than Pidgin, by the way. | 02:47 |
| amr | scary, i was just about to install that lol | 02:48 |
| amr | thanks:) | 02:48 |
| lcuk | xchat is even better | 02:48 |
| lcuk | simpler i think | 02:48 |
| GeneralAntilles | amr, not perfect, but it saves space and isn't quite as obnoxious as Pidgin. | 02:48 |
| GeneralAntilles | lcuk, I'm assuming for IM. ;) | 02:49 |
| amr | im on xchat now | 02:49 |
| amr | yeah, for im | 02:49 |
| lcuk | i added a basic irc listening bot in liqbase | 02:49 |
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| lcuk | it just logs everything to a liqcell window in mono font, but it shows the effect of connecting | 02:49 |
| lcuk | hiya ssvb \o | 02:50 |
| ssvb | hi | 02:50 |
| amr | how long has it taken you to write liqbase? | 02:50 |
| amr | i havent looked at the source but its pretty sweet looking from the vids | 02:51 |
| lcuk | well i knew that i wanted to touch wayyyyyyy back when i had a spectrum | 02:51 |
| lcuk | cos i had a touch pen | 02:51 |
| amr | lol | 02:51 |
| lcuk | then i saw something described as "the devils tablet" and that was a handheld lcd tablet with chorded pen | 02:51 |
| lcuk | it was about £20000 :) | 02:52 |
| amr | ouch lol | 02:52 |
| lcuk | since then ive been daydreaming about touching my code | 02:52 |
| GeneralAntilles | Calculators are probably faster these days. | 02:52 |
| amr | i started years ago on a casio tablet | 02:52 |
| lcuk | gan :) and they are - i hold in my hand more power than then | 02:52 |
| amr | monochrome, serial connections etc | 02:53 |
| GeneralAntilles | Newton! | 02:53 |
| amr | had a big userbase with lots ofv silly apps | 02:53 |
| lcuk | i found code for rendering a mandelbrot fractal image for my spectrum - the initial first iconic mandel-bug shape took it over 24 hours to render! | 02:53 |
| GeneralAntilles | lcuk, I still think you would love the Newton. | 02:54 |
| lcuk | just before christmas i wrote a touch based fractal explorer :) | 02:54 |
| amr | then had a palm 150? then 515 then a nokia 770 :p | 02:54 |
| lcuk | i probably will gan | 02:54 |
| amr | ooo | 02:54 |
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| amr | share? | 02:54 |
| amr | oh, spectrum | 02:54 |
| amr | nm :p | 02:54 |
| lcuk | it never got released and was nothing major, just a mo, ill check if the module is in the classic liqbase svn | 02:55 |
| lcuk | 9th of november lol | 02:55 |
| lcuk | http://liqbase.net/liq.20081109_001235.gary.scr.png | 02:55 |
| amr | hmm, need to make xchat open links :p | 02:56 |
| GeneralAntilles | amr, tap'n'hold | 02:57 |
| amr | aha, ty | 02:57 |
| amr | the theremin app is pretty cool | 02:57 |
| lcuk | you will like boxar as well | 02:57 |
| lcuk | those apps are the confirmation for me that this device can do realtime audio | 02:58 |
| lcuk | i keep wanting wind noise when scrolling | 02:58 |
| lcuk | or as someone amazingly suggested - a page flipping noise when scrolling through a book | 02:58 |
| amr | lol | 02:58 |
| amr | oo | 02:58 |
| amr | thatd be snazzy | 02:59 |
| lcuk | yeah it would | 02:59 |
| amr | oh dear me, i went to bed to sleep so i can get up early to revise | 03:00 |
| amr | instead im playing with my tablet | 03:00 |
| lcuk | heh | 03:01 |
| lcuk | how well do you tube vids play on the tablet | 03:01 |
| amr | not sure | 03:04 |
| amr | boxar is COOL btw :D | 03:04 |
| timeless_mbp | lcuk: that url fails? :( | 03:06 |
| amr | ya | 03:06 |
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| lcuk | doesnt now | 03:07 |
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| lcuk | theres also http://liqbase.net/liq.20081109_143957.gary.scr.png | 03:08 |
| lcuk | it was the last thing i did before i rebuilt liqbase | 03:08 |
| lcuk | once i knew what it felt like to zoom in :) | 03:08 |
| amr | hmmm, i need telepathy-haze | 03:10 |
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| amr | nn | 03:16 |
| lcuk | gnite amr | 03:20 |
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| Macer | how depressing | 03:50 |
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| rm_you | hey, someone here with osc working want to tell me wtf i did wrong with the setup? | 05:11 |
| rm_you | mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/adam/Mer/.build-root/': File exists | 05:11 |
| rm_you | can not create BUILD_ROOT=/home/adam/Mer/.build-root/. Exit... | 05:11 |
| rm_you | ... it creates it, so yes it exists already... it is trying to create it twice? | 05:12 |
| rm_you | did i use an extra slash or something that is making it explode? | 05:12 |
| rm_you | Stskeepsie: ideas? | 05:12 |
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| rm_you | gah well brb rebooting to fix intel video driver issues... | 05:15 |
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| xnt14 | ~seen b-man | 06:38 |
| xnt14 | ??? | 06:38 |
| xnt14 | :P | 06:39 |
| infobot | b-man <n=b-man@pool-71-124-32-204.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 2d 4h 27m 21s ago, saying: 'wtf'. | 06:39 |
| xnt14 | oh ok | 06:40 |
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| lardman | morning all | 07:06 |
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| johnx__ | morning lardman | 07:06 |
| lardman | hi johnx__ | 07:07 |
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| * lardman wonders if he should just go back to bed, ~5am is too early | 07:09 | |
| Macer | hm | 07:10 |
| Macer | anybody here ever mod a wii? | 07:10 |
| * lardman has never owned a console, so no, sorry | 07:10 | |
| johnx | Macer: I did the twilight hack | 07:11 |
| johnx | no hardware mods though | 07:11 |
| Macer | twilight hack? | 07:11 |
| johnx | Macer: it takes advantage of a buffer overflow in twilight princess | 07:12 |
| Macer | ah | 07:13 |
| Macer | isn't compatible with newer wii menus tho | 07:13 |
| johnx | i guess not | 07:13 |
| Macer | screw that. i will buy this solderless mod chip they have that is supposed to work extremely well | 07:13 |
| johnx | should have gotten into it sooner ;) | 07:13 |
| Macer | heh | 07:14 |
| Macer | maybe | 07:14 |
| johnx | you could just wait until they find a hack for a new game | 07:14 |
| Macer | well. the mod chip doesn't require a hack | 07:15 |
| Macer | although it does require opening it up.. but mine is way out of warranty anyways | 07:15 |
| Macer | and they're only $250 so blah ;) | 07:15 |
| Macer | it's not like before when you couldn't find wiis | 07:15 |
| Macer | http://www.wii-modchips.com/drivekey.htm | 07:15 |
| Macer | don't even have to solder :) | 07:16 |
| johnx | i suppose so | 07:17 |
| johnx | I think software hacks are a lot more elegant though | 07:17 |
| lardman | what does the hack allow? | 07:18 |
| johnx | everything :) | 07:18 |
| lardman | lol | 07:18 |
| johnx | right up to running linux on your wii | 07:19 |
| lardman | ah, ok | 07:19 |
| lardman | but it wouldn't, for example, allow me to clutch the wii remote, wish for a Fremantle device, and it would appear? | 07:19 |
| * lardman wonders at the definition of everything... ;) | 07:19 | |
| johnx | it would allow you to run mer on your wii and flip at it with the wiimote once I get around to cleaning it up ;) | 07:21 |
| lardman | sounds cool | 07:21 |
| Macer | lol | 07:21 |
| Macer | yeah .. i have v4.0u | 07:22 |
| rm_you | gah is the version of VIM in extras totally borken? >_> | 07:22 |
| Macer | so i'm screwed with this hack | 07:22 |
| Macer | although there is another one | 07:22 |
| Macer | banner bomb? | 07:22 |
| johnx | never heard of it | 07:23 |
| johnx | haven't touched my wii in a couple weeks | 07:23 |
| * johnx face palms | 07:23 | |
| Macer | oh. 4.0 lets you use an sdhc | 07:23 |
| Macer | :) | 07:23 |
| Macer | which is awesome | 07:23 |
| johnx | linux on wii had sdhc support for a while ;) | 07:23 |
| Macer | lol | 07:24 |
| Macer | how is it on the wii? | 07:24 |
| * Macer wants to hax0r his wii now haha | 07:24 | |
| Macer | i have had it for this long and really haven't done much with it | 07:24 |
| Macer | i'm going to hax0r it soon :) i'm downloading the bannerbomb exploit | 07:25 |
| Macer | hopefully i don't brick it lol | 07:25 |
| johnx | nah, the hacks on the wii are usually pretty safe | 07:25 |
| johnx | nintendo isn't out to brick people's consoles (unlike sony and the psp, or apple and the iphone) | 07:25 |
| lardman | I'm heading back to bed, 5am was too early :) See you chaps later | 07:25 |
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| Macer | probably because they realize the larger market won't go through the trouble | 07:26 |
| Macer | :) | 07:26 |
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| Macer | johnx: ? | 07:35 |
| Macer | Get a DOL or ELF | 07:35 |
| Macer | wtf is that? | 07:36 |
| johnx | ELF is a type of binary | 07:37 |
| johnx | linux uses ELF binaries, so does the wii | 07:37 |
| Macer | well i know that but the instructions... | 07:37 |
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| GAN800 | Bleh | 07:37 |
| johnx | the DOL is a wrapper around ELF from what I can tell | 07:37 |
| Macer | Get a DOL or ELF (why not bootmii?) and put it on the SD as /boot.dol or /boot.elf. | 07:37 |
| johnx | morning GAN800 | 07:37 |
| Macer | where the hell do i find boot.dol or boot.elf? :) | 07:38 |
| johnx | Macer: yeah, and that program will get run | 07:38 |
| GAN800 | Hi, johnx. | 07:38 |
| johnx | Macer, so find *any* program and name it boot.dol or boot.elf | 07:38 |
| johnx | like, in your case, homebrew channel might be nice :) | 07:39 |
| Macer | lol. that is what i'm using | 07:40 |
| Macer | OK | 07:42 |
| Macer | let's see if this works :) | 07:42 |
| Macer | if it does it will be entirely too easy | 07:42 |
| johnx | when I did it twilight hack and homebrew channel came in a zip file that I unpacked onto an sd card | 07:44 |
| johnx | way way too easy :) | 07:45 |
| Macer | wtf | 07:45 |
| johnx | not so much? | 07:46 |
| Macer | installation failed :) | 07:46 |
| Macer | damn | 07:46 |
| Macer | doesn't work. i think i need a newer homebrew? | 07:48 |
| Macer | homebrew actually tried to install but it won't install | 07:48 |
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| Macer | ah. have to use the hackmii instlaler | 07:56 |
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| johnx | good deal | 07:59 |
| johnx | it's cool that the hack works | 08:00 |
| Macer | heh.. i don't know exactly what to install first | 08:02 |
| Macer | they don't have much in way of instrtuctions | 08:02 |
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| Macer | i guess i will just go in order but this is a nice hack | 08:03 |
| Macer | has a neat little installer and everything :) | 08:03 |
| johnx | yeah, homebrew browser + homebrew channel are a nice setup | 08:04 |
| Macer | what is the difference between installing bootmii as boot2 or ios? | 08:04 |
| johnx | haven't messed with bootmi though | 08:04 |
| Macer | oh | 08:04 |
| johnx | errr....I have no idea :) | 08:04 |
| Macer | haha i don't either | 08:04 |
| Macer | For many people, that will be enough. For the intrepid or foolish, HackMii Installer v0.1 can install BootMii Beta 1 on your Wii, either in front of boot2 or as an IOS. | 08:05 |
| Macer | screw it.. i'll just pick one :) | 08:05 |
| Macer | hm | 08:06 |
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| AndrewFBlack_ | Hello | 08:07 |
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| Macer | wtf. why isn't my wii remote working for this menu for bootmii | 08:14 |
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| GAN800 | and they call me revisionist. . . . | 08:16 |
| Macer | heh | 08:22 |
| Macer | well. i got homebrew to run on this thing | 08:22 |
| Macer | don't know exactly what good it is | 08:22 |
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| GAN800 | Macer, emulators mostly. | 08:32 |
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| GAN800 | Macer, mplayer | 08:33 |
| StsN800 | , | 08:39 |
| StsN800 | morn GAN800 | 08:39 |
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| RST38h | Moo Sts, Macer, GAN | 08:45 |
| johnx | morning StsN800, RST38h | 08:47 |
| RST38h | heya johnx | 08:48 |
| StsN800 | morn johnnx | 08:48 |
| StsN800 | -n | 08:48 |
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| * RST38h checks the forums and finds out banana peel flying all around there | 08:50 | |
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| StsN801 | gah fonera router | 08:52 |
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| Macer | hm | 09:15 |
| Macer | i already figured that out ;) | 09:15 |
| Macer | although i rarely use dvds | 09:15 |
| Macer | heh | 09:15 |
| Macer | i just wanted it because you never know :) | 09:15 |
| Macer | now all i need to find his this usb loader thing | 09:16 |
| Macer | :) | 09:16 |
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| thux | morning | 09:27 |
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| Bobbe | Guys, how do you record your n800 running, say, for a video tutorial? | 09:46 |
| Bobbe | I wanna do one on cloning the OS to the mmc in Portuguese | 09:47 |
| Bobbe | is there a screen recorder app for the n800? I tried looking but got nothing | 09:47 |
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| johnx | I think lots of people either use a digital camera that can record video or use vnc from their desktop/laptop | 09:49 |
| johnx | RST38h: a couple weeks ago we were talking about Tear and slashdot. with the cookie bug fixed in tear it's actually quite enjoyable to look at slashdot. just played with it today | 09:50 |
| Bobbe | run vncserver from the n800 and connect through my pc. Ok, that might work. Won't the video be a bit sluggish? | 09:50 |
| johnx | it might, but you can speed it up later if you want ;) | 09:50 |
| Bobbe | will try that. thanks johnx ;) | 09:50 |
| RST38h | johnx: I have got a version of Tear that is a few weeks old (0.3.1?) | 09:51 |
| johnx | make sure you pickup the fixed webkit then | 09:51 |
| RST38h | johnx: Slashdot still unusable with it | 09:51 |
| johnx | it's at the top of the 0.3.1 thread | 09:51 |
| RST38h | yea, I have got both then. May need to update once more. | 09:51 |
| johnx | it's working ok here, even comments | 09:53 |
| johnx | takes about 15 seconds to load the main page and maybe 20 to load comments | 09:53 |
| thux | does tear have config file somewhere? | 09:53 |
| Sho_ | thux: it uses an sqlite database for config storage, afaik | 09:54 |
| thux | Sho_: ok, so it cannot be easily edited? | 09:54 |
| johnx | it has an about:config type thing I think | 09:55 |
| Sho_ | thux: not from outside the app anyway, no | 09:55 |
| johnx | RST38h: I get the feeling that the fancy js crufy isn't enabled in the comments for me | 09:55 |
| thux | thanx | 09:55 |
| johnx | thus making the whole site much more usable | 09:55 |
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| Macer | fuck yeah | 11:02 |
| Macer | finished hax0ring my wii :) | 11:02 |
| Macer | need to download some games | 11:02 |
| StsN801 | now you can put mer on it;p | 11:02 |
| Macer | lol | 11:03 |
| Macer | i will if you make a wii build :) | 11:03 |
| Macer | they actually have a linux distro for it (go figure) | 11:03 |
| Macer | god knows there is a distro for everything nowadays | 11:03 |
| Macer | i'm going to install linux on my penis | 11:03 |
| Macer | plinux | 11:03 |
| Macer | runs 2.24 | 11:04 |
| StsN801 | we actually have mer for wii-johnx ported it | 11:04 |
| Macer | wow really? | 11:04 |
| StsN801 | its a powerpc so | 11:04 |
| Macer | thought they had arm wiis | 11:04 |
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| johnx | maybe one of their sound chips is an ARM, but the main CPU is a PPC | 11:05 |
| johnx | it's almost the same as the Gamecube PPC, except faster | 11:05 |
| Macer | really? | 11:05 |
| Macer | what kind? | 11:05 |
| Macer | damn. honestly didn't know that | 11:05 |
| johnx | it's pretty close to a Mac G3 | 11:05 |
| Macer | what is it like a G4? | 11:05 |
| Macer | a g3?! | 11:05 |
| Macer | :) | 11:05 |
| Macer | welcome to 1990 | 11:05 |
| Macer | i guess that explains why it's not hd? | 11:05 |
| johnx | you're off by 10 years :P | 11:06 |
| Macer | probably uses some archaic ati too? :) | 11:06 |
| Macer | like a radeon x700 | 11:06 |
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| StsN801 | wii doesn't really need fancy gfx though | 11:06 |
| johnx | and really, a G3 at ~700MHz feels insanely fast after compiling on an n800 :) | 11:07 |
| Macer | haha | 11:07 |
| johnx | like, kernel compile inside a half hour fast :) | 11:07 |
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| Macer | heh | 11:12 |
| Macer | my g3 was like... | 11:13 |
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| Macer | 350MHz or some crap | 11:13 |
| Macer | maybe 400 | 11:13 |
| johnx | well, they kept the architecture and bumped the speed | 11:13 |
| johnx | just like the atom is an overclocked original pentium ;P | 11:13 |
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| Macer | lol | 11:15 |
| Macer | man i'm still stuck on the girl from ncis | 11:15 |
| Macer | if i get a girlfriend i want her to be a hot colored eyed doctor like her with the sweet voice :) | 11:15 |
| johnx | that sounds awkard | 11:15 |
| Macer | i'm about to bust out the stalker kit | 11:15 |
| johnx | s/awkard/very awkard/ | 11:16 |
| infobot | johnx meant: that sounds very awkard | 11:16 |
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| radic | test | 11:16 |
| radic | s/test/muhh blah/ | 11:16 |
| infobot | radic meant: muhh blah | 11:16 |
| Macer | lol | 11:17 |
| Macer | i hope this wii hackery works | 11:18 |
| Macer | that would be amazing | 11:18 |
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| Macer | no mod chip and it just kind of works? | 11:18 |
| Macer | i won't believe it until i see it | 11:18 |
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| johnx | didn't you already run the hack and you're just installing stuff now? | 11:20 |
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| Macer | well. i got the backup channel installed | 11:20 |
| Macer | i'm downloading something to burn and test out | 11:21 |
| Macer | might give me a reason to get more dvds ;) | 11:21 |
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| Macer | it has about 20 mins to go for the download | 11:21 |
| johnx | Macer: blah. onto warezing before you even check out what's available for free? :/ | 11:21 |
| Macer | lol | 11:22 |
| Macer | well.. i did that too | 11:22 |
| Macer | it has abrowser with like... mplayer and stuff | 11:22 |
| Macer | open stuff.. nothing specail | 11:22 |
| Macer | has quake1 :) | 11:22 |
| Macer | works pretty good with teh pistol thing i got | 11:22 |
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| johnx | has a full debian-based distro too | 11:23 |
| Macer | for wii? | 11:23 |
| Macer | how does one use a keyboard for that? | 11:23 |
| Macer | a bt keyboard? | 11:23 |
| Macer | or is there an actual wii keyboard? :) | 11:23 |
| Macer | i just can't see a wii running things good | 11:23 |
| johnx | and yet you didn't try it ... | 11:24 |
| johnx | also, uhm, usb ports are in the back | 11:24 |
| johnx | and yeah, bt or onscreen is an option as well | 11:24 |
| johnx | was thinking tear would work pretty well with kinetic scrolling and a wiimote | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, that'd be a fancy demo | 11:28 |
| johnx | even I'm not optimistic enough to claim I can pull that off *soon* | 11:29 |
| johnx | I'll haul the wii along with me anyways though | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, and hope it doesn't get mistaken for something in the security checks :P | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | imagine the trouble beagleboard people have. : | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | :) | 11:31 |
| Macer | ugh | 11:32 |
| Macer | i want this stupid download to finish already | 11:32 |
| Macer | i need the 20GB/s internet connection | 11:32 |
| Macer | lol | 11:32 |
| johnx | heh, I can just picture how well a beagleboard+homemade battery pack would go over with US "homeland security" | 11:33 |
| Macer | why? | 11:35 |
| Macer | wtf is it used for anyways? | 11:35 |
| Stskeeps | beagleboard? beagleboard.org | 11:35 |
| Macer | yeah. i'm looking at it now | 11:35 |
| Stskeeps | it's a omap3 basically | 11:35 |
| Macer | no arm windows? | 11:37 |
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| Macer | :) | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | pft :P | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | it has windows ce. :P | 11:37 |
| Macer | haha | 11:37 |
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| Macer | 800MB to go! | 11:42 |
| Macer | cmon punch out | 11:42 |
| Macer | i hope i don't have stupid problems | 11:42 |
| Macer | like ntsc / pal compatibility | 11:42 |
| Macer | i'm going to be pissed if i do | 11:42 |
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| rkirti_ | Do I need to custom build and reinstall my gtk with the MAEMO_CHANGES defined to manually compile osso stuff (which currently breaks due to TAP and HOLD stuff being undefined)? | 12:03 |
| Sts|office | yes - you need to use maemo gtk for that | 12:03 |
| Macer | hm | 12:04 |
| Macer | isn't it strange that almost all advancements in the electronic industry are made in order to make things go faster | 12:05 |
| Sts|office | yeah, but people have realized the ghz border have been hit | 12:05 |
| roope | or consume less power. | 12:05 |
| Sts|office | or yeah, consume less power | 12:05 |
| Macer | well.. not only cpu power | 12:06 |
| Macer | hard drives.. burners... | 12:06 |
| Sts|office | cos time is money | 12:06 |
| Macer | sometimes i think they already have things that can go the true maximum speed but hold them back | 12:06 |
| Macer | hm. wonder if the wii can use a usb hard drives for video | 12:07 |
| Macer | blah. that is a waste of time | 12:07 |
| Macer | i have a popcornhour :) | 12:07 |
| Macer | what i need is a wii app that can use samba | 12:07 |
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| johnx | Macer: it's an app called linux | 12:13 |
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| aquatix | Macer: hard drives generally only become bigger | 12:16 |
| aquatix | their change in speed is less steep than what you see with cpus and memory | 12:16 |
| aquatix | Macer: ah, you have such a popcorn? how do you like it? | 12:17 |
| rkirti_ | Sts|office: the source repo for maemo-gtk isnt quite visible on any search engine. It seems to be stage.maemo.org svn but that needs a login - and my maemo.org doesnt seem to work.. | 12:17 |
| * aquatix wants to build something similar | 12:17 | |
| Stskeeps | rkirti_: naah. sec :) | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | try https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/gtk+/ ? | 12:18 |
| Macer | damnit | 12:18 |
| Macer | aquatix: it's great | 12:18 |
| Macer | aquatix: hey .. i have a fully functional mboard if you want it | 12:18 |
| Macer | for an a110 | 12:18 |
| Macer | you'll need an adapter and a remote control and case for it tho | 12:18 |
| Macer | when my a100 broke they sent me an a110 mboard by accident then sent me the a100s replacement and didn't care about the 110 | 12:19 |
| rkirti_ | Stskeeps: ok. I ignored this page earlier since there seems to be an evidence of maemo-gtk-2.10 on the web .. | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | repository.maemo.org/pool/diablo/ otherwise | 12:20 |
| aquatix | Macer: hm, i was thinking about a pentium-m 1.6GHz mobo i could buy from a guy i know | 12:20 |
| aquatix | not sure whether a popcorn is fast enough | 12:20 |
| Macer | oh | 12:22 |
| Macer | my bad | 12:22 |
| Macer | i doubt it | 12:22 |
| Macer | :) | 12:22 |
| aquatix | your bad? | 12:22 |
| aquatix | i was just wondering in general :) | 12:22 |
| aquatix | but can a popcorn play 720p? | 12:22 |
| Macer | 1080p ;) | 12:25 |
| Macer | does a fair job of it | 12:25 |
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| aquatix | hm :) | 12:26 |
| Macer | so far it hasn't had many problems playing whatever i throw at it | 12:27 |
| Macer | and the firmware updates are constant and good | 12:27 |
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| aquatix | i have a nice tv card which i barely used yet and want to put into the machine; then i'll have a dvcr, mediabox and such | 12:28 |
| aquatix | i have a regular CRT tv anyway | 12:29 |
| thux | does lsusb -vvvv tell correct port voltage or just what it supposed to be? | 12:29 |
| atharva | hi all, can sumbudy help me how to install pymaemo, I would like to develop application for maemo platform using python | 12:29 |
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| Macer | aquatix: best thing i ever used was in windows | 12:31 |
| Macer | ;) | 12:31 |
| Macer | mediaportal | 12:31 |
| Macer | some open source project things | 12:31 |
| Macer | it's good | 12:31 |
| aquatix | thinking about xbmc or something | 12:31 |
| Macer | but it takes too much power to play high def | 12:31 |
| amr | graph theory is a meanie. | 12:31 |
| Macer | you need something strong | 12:31 |
| Macer | 720p might play on mid grade hardware but you need at least 2.6GHz dual core for high def | 12:31 |
| Macer | because the player is going to use 100% of one of the cores decoding it no matter what you use | 12:32 |
| aquatix | yeah | 12:32 |
| Macer | at least for pc hardware unless you find a good h264 hw decoder that works with teh player | 12:32 |
| Macer | wow | 12:35 |
| Macer | this shit works | 12:35 |
| Macer | i can play wii games :) | 12:35 |
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| Macer | i am playing a burned punch out now | 12:36 |
| Macer | no mod needed | 12:36 |
| Macer | that is awesome | 12:36 |
| Macer | wow | 12:41 |
| Macer | time to download every wii game out there now :) | 12:41 |
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| lbt | so my wife has a theory than man-flu evolved into swine-flu.... and it wasn't much of a jump... | 12:53 |
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| Macer | hm. ftpd for wii | 12:56 |
| Macer | :) | 12:56 |
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| ShadowJK | Although this new "swine flu" didn't come from swine at all. | 13:01 |
| Macer | haha | 13:03 |
| Macer | tell that to the idiots slaughtering pigs :) | 13:03 |
| Macer | like it's mad cow | 13:04 |
| Macer | i'm going to run out of space downloading all this crap | 13:04 |
| * RST38h moos | 13:05 | |
| * RST38h especially liked the hypothesis that H1N1 came from the same lab that developed Tamiflu, by accident | 13:05 | |
| Macer | 6.3T 1.5T 4.8T | 13:05 |
| Macer | maybe not soon.. i suppose i can rm them after i burn them | 13:05 |
| suihkulokki | a "accident" that makes lots of profit? | 13:05 |
| Stskeeps | wasn't that the plot of mission impossible 2? | 13:06 |
| Macer | suihkulokki: i would believe it if the magic vaccine came out right after | 13:06 |
| Macer | "ChemPham Inc says it has the new swine flu vaccine readily available.." | 13:06 |
| Macer | drug companies is where it's at :) | 13:07 |
| RST38h | Sts: Apparently, it was not, let me dig some articles | 13:07 |
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| RST38h | http://www.dancewithshadows.com/pillscribe/h1n1-swine-flu-virus-is-a-man-made-product-claims-scientist/ | 13:08 |
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| Macer | i wonder if the steering wheel thing is necessary to play mario kart | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: very authorative url.. | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:08 |
| Macer | haha | 13:08 |
| Macer | i'd give it to him if it was dancewithshadows.gov | 13:08 |
| Macer | :) | 13:08 |
| Macer | some dude came on another # telling us how people were taking over computers with rootkit | 13:09 |
| Macer | it was a riot | 13:09 |
| RST38h | Sts: It's ok, just google the names you find there | 13:09 |
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| * RST38h really just pasted the first url that came up on google | 13:09 | |
| RST38h | Of course the guy may just be trying to get some publicity | 13:10 |
| Macer | RST38h: you think? :) | 13:10 |
| Macer | are there ads on the site? | 13:10 |
| RST38h | Macer: I have no opinion on the subject, need more data. | 13:10 |
| johnx | probably not. it would be totally unethical to take advantage of peoples' fear in order to make a quick buck | 13:11 |
| johnx | I mean what is the precendent of that? | 13:11 |
| Macer | haha | 13:11 |
| RST38h | Macer: Gibbs has promised to publish an article on his research into H1N1 origins, so let us just wait for that | 13:11 |
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| Macer | that would probably be on a .edu or .gov ;) | 13:11 |
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| RST38h | Semiofficial WHO answer: http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/swineflu/news/may1409who.html | 13:12 |
| Macer | In no other game, for example, can you grab hold of a leather-clad enemy and impale him anus first on a rusty spike | 13:12 |
| Macer | hahahha | 13:12 |
| Macer | damn there are like a million rock band games | 13:13 |
| Macer | i never understood its appeal | 13:13 |
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| RST38h | It is some teenage thing | 13:14 |
| Macer | i suppose | 13:14 |
| Macer | did you see the south park where they try to reach 1million? | 13:14 |
| Macer | and one of them gets strung out on a game called chasing the dragon? :) | 13:15 |
| Macer | it was great | 13:15 |
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| RST38h | Weird part is , these games have been available years ago and there weren't any following | 13:15 |
| Macer | nice to see they have bloody games on wii | 13:15 |
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| * RST38h does not watch Southpark since finding Mr Hanky on TV during diner | 13:15 | |
| RST38h | s/diner/dinner | 13:16 |
| Macer | age restricted video.. and all you have to do is enter your birthday | 13:16 |
| Macer | madworld looks awesome | 13:17 |
| Macer | http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14253678/madworld/videos/madworld_vdr_030909.html | 13:20 |
| Razumihin | Hmm... scratchbox won't run on amd64? :P | 13:22 |
| RST38h | no | 13:26 |
| RST38h | not without some coaxing anyway | 13:27 |
| Razumihin | Great. | 13:27 |
| Razumihin | Hmm... maybe i will install 32bit linux on virtualbox or something. | 13:27 |
| Razumihin | And sdk wont work with scratchbox2? | 13:28 |
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| * thux had to install vista on two laptops :P suffering sunday | 13:32 | |
| * johnx jailbroke 10 ipod touches last week as part of his job | 13:33 | |
| lcuk | i can think of better things to do than install vista | 13:33 |
| lcuk | ooh look, i can pull my finger nail out! | 13:33 |
| Razumihin | :D | 13:33 |
| lcuk | heh johnx | 13:34 |
| thux | i will give them away and that's why install orginal software | 13:36 |
| Razumihin | I just rebooted my computer to vista :( | 13:37 |
| thux | bad laptops only good for typewriters | 13:37 |
| Razumihin | Isn't ubuntu better in typewriting than vista? | 13:37 |
| Razumihin | At least i get suicidal thoughts every time i have to do something else besides playing games in vista. | 13:38 |
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| RST38h | You can always imagine it is just an extremely anal retentive version of MacOS X | 13:38 |
| Razumihin | Haha. Nah, osx is _almost_ usable. | 13:39 |
| Razumihin | (i'm using it to irc right now) | 13:39 |
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| Razumihin | I have to use some adobe software so i have macbook with osx as my secondary desktop computer:) | 13:39 |
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| thux | Razumihin: yes probably ubuntu is better but they rather have them with vistas | 13:42 |
| Macer | well :) | 13:45 |
| Macer | wii does have some nice looking games | 13:45 |
| * Macer works on the linux install now | 13:45 | |
| lcuk | johnx, how can i get one of these | 13:45 |
| lcuk | http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-17350-Get+a+2nd+BRAIN+from+Sharp!.html | 13:45 |
| RST38h | but why? | 13:46 |
| johnx | maybe dynamism will get you one | 13:46 |
| johnx | there are a couple other import sites, but I can't think of them right now and I'm off to bed in a sec actually | 13:47 |
| johnx | it being 4AM and all :) | 13:47 |
| johnx | if you poke at me again tomorrow I might be able to dredge up the sites from my memory | 13:47 |
| lcuk | heh cool - still dont realize time diffs | 13:48 |
| lcuk | RST38h, just because the more i look at em the more i ponder what if | 13:48 |
| Macer | i was always a big fan of the wikipedia contact lenses | 13:51 |
| Macer | wonder if darpa is working on it | 13:52 |
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| RST38h | lcuk: Closed, locked, try your luck with SmartQ | 14:01 |
| lcuk | its the keyboard i like on that one actually | 14:02 |
| RST38h | Macer: Personally, I would prefer a truly intelligent flame bot to that | 14:02 |
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| RST38h | Macer: Imagine releasing a bunch of these on itt! | 14:02 |
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| Macer | heh | 14:07 |
| Macer | my wii has found new life | 14:07 |
| Macer | it's actually worth using again. i should have done this a long time ago | 14:07 |
| Macer | i just figured modding it meant ripping it open and soldering shit all over the place | 14:08 |
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| Macer | i remember when to mod a ps2 you had to solder in like the pins and there were like 30 of them :) | 14:08 |
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| lcuk | Macer, what did you need to do to your wii | 14:09 |
| lcuk | and was it easy breaking into it | 14:09 |
| * lcuk hated ripping down the wii | 14:09 | |
| Macer | lcuk: it was pretty easy | 14:10 |
| Macer | needed to download a few things onto an sd and run a few apps | 14:10 |
| lcuk | cool | 14:10 |
| Macer | now i can burn games and play them in a backup channel :) | 14:10 |
| Macer | it was all software | 14:10 |
| Macer | it's great | 14:10 |
| lcuk | what if those games include updates | 14:10 |
| Macer | don't know | 14:10 |
| lcuk | cos ive seen a few do that now | 14:10 |
| Macer | i'm still running the latest firmeware | 14:10 |
| Macer | firmware | 14:10 |
| Macer | 4.0u or something | 14:11 |
| lcuk | did you have yours updating over the wifi and stuff | 14:11 |
| Macer | yeah. i did that before i realized it probably wouldn't be a good thing :) | 14:11 |
| Macer | but it seems to have maintained the same firmware ... there are a lot of extra steps but it still works just fine | 14:11 |
| lcuk | cos we never configured ours and without major nintendo foo they wont ever touch the public internet even if it finds my wifi lol | 14:11 |
| Macer | especially using the 4.0 mod pack | 14:11 |
| Macer | like... minus the learning curve.. it took like 5 mins :) | 14:12 |
| lcuk | i have always liked the wii | 14:12 |
| Macer | with it... it took like 30 | 14:12 |
| Macer | haha | 14:12 |
| lcuk | i think aspects of liqbase would work on it :$ | 14:12 |
| Macer | heh | 14:12 |
| Macer | well.. sooner or later i am going to try to install linux on it | 14:12 |
| Macer | but i haven't tried an sdhc and honestly don't see the need | 14:12 |
| lcuk | yeah johnx was toying with mer | 14:12 |
| Macer | i think all i would have to do is copy the sd over to a new one and try it | 14:13 |
| lcuk | sounds good | 14:13 |
| Macer | 4.0 is supposed to support it | 14:13 |
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| Macer | i dunno though.. and i don't want to break it :) it's awesome for running l33t w4r3z games | 14:13 |
| Macer | i'm burning house of the dead now | 14:13 |
| Macer | :) | 14:13 |
| Macer | and i think the backup channel lets you copy them to a usb drive if you borrow them but not really sure | 14:14 |
| lcuk | the kids have a nice collection of wii games now | 14:14 |
| Macer | lol. you wouldn't have had to buy them ;) | 14:14 |
| Macer | i'm downloading kids games for my 3 yr old son | 14:14 |
| lcuk | dont mind paying tho tbh | 14:14 |
| Macer | i don't either but still | 14:14 |
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| Macer | less time at a store :) no lines | 14:14 |
| Macer | no online ordering and ups | 14:14 |
| lcuk | the amount of playtime we get is well worth the small money invested :) | 14:15 |
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| lcuk | would do the sd stuff only for homebrew and testing | 14:15 |
| Macer | homebrew is easy | 14:15 |
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| Macer | the backup channel was the pain | 14:16 |
| Macer | although homebrew isn't all that | 14:16 |
| Macer | i mean it has a few things that are interesting but for the most part i don't see the appeal.. it's like... using a low res pc with shitty apps :) | 14:16 |
| Macer | now if it could run osx.. that would be something | 14:16 |
| lcuk | but the screen cant | 14:16 |
| Macer | i think it does like... | 14:17 |
| lcuk | its like running a maemo tablet from far away | 14:17 |
| Macer | some aweful res | 14:17 |
| Macer | haha | 14:17 |
| Macer | yeah | 14:17 |
| Macer | i forgot what it maxes out at i think 420p | 14:17 |
| Macer | or some crap like that.. it's just not worth it | 14:17 |
| lcuk | dunno i havent got a hd tv | 14:17 |
| Macer | well.. i do and the games look good.. but the rest looks like crap | 14:17 |
| Macer | so i might just leave it alone and just use it for game playing :) since that's what it is supposed to be used for | 14:18 |
| Macer | i don't really see a need to use it as anything else unless i'm desperate | 14:18 |
| Macer | it would be nice to have samba or something on it | 14:18 |
| Macer | they have a usb iso mounter but i haven't tried yet | 14:19 |
| Macer | so you can hook up an external hd with a bunch of isos on it instead of burning the games | 14:19 |
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| Macer | wii mer would be good if i had a kb for the thing | 14:19 |
| Macer | i want to play madworld :) | 14:20 |
| Macer | and house of the dead.. i think i am going to try them out now.. ttyl | 14:20 |
| lcuk | heh cool cya later Macer | 14:20 |
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| Macer | lol. house of the dead is comical! | 14:35 |
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| lcuk | hiya danielwilms \o | 16:02 |
| danielwilms | hey lcuk :) | 16:02 |
| lcuk | hows the weather over there on this sunday | 16:02 |
| lcuk | and more importantly, why arent you out enjoying it lol | 16:02 |
| danielwilms | lol | 16:03 |
| danielwilms | weather was quite ok this morning...now its cloudy...and well...some fixes with the SSO before my vacations next week ;) | 16:03 |
| lcuk | ahhh vacation time | 16:03 |
| lcuk | you seen the new vid of liqbase ? | 16:04 |
| danielwilms | nooo...just came in | 16:04 |
| lcuk | shows it as intended without messing with copying and folders and stuff | 16:04 |
| lcuk | just a mo | 16:04 |
| lcuk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt7qB37sLLo | 16:04 |
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| danielwilms | wow...looks great | 16:06 |
| lcuk | you have only seen a bit so far :P | 16:06 |
| danielwilms | already impressed | 16:06 |
| lcuk | and the vid only includes a fractioon of the pieces as well ;) | 16:06 |
| danielwilms | :) | 16:07 |
| lcuk | but it gives the mood and feeling i hope to achieve :) | 16:07 |
| danielwilms | hehe | 16:07 |
| danielwilms | how do u realize the search?? | 16:08 |
| danielwilms | tracker?? | 16:08 |
| lcuk | no | 16:08 |
| lcuk | emerges out of simple pieces lol | 16:08 |
| danielwilms | :)) | 16:09 |
| lcuk | i explain how its done | 16:09 |
| lcuk | i even show you! | 16:09 |
| lcuk | it wont scale forever and does need caching and does require thumbnailing etc | 16:10 |
| lcuk | so tracker will be good, but the basis is there | 16:10 |
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| danielwilms | ok...sounds interesting | 16:10 |
| danielwilms | a nice video! | 16:10 |
| lcuk | yeah, much better than fish and abstract nonesense | 16:11 |
| lcuk | i actually show how i like to use it and stuff | 16:11 |
| danielwilms | yep...good overview about those things! | 16:11 |
| lcuk | right at the start of liqbase i allowed every sketch to have a written tagline | 16:11 |
| lcuk | and sometime mid process i removed it for some reason | 16:11 |
| lcuk | but now all my old tagged sketches are included in the search | 16:12 |
| lcuk | ill be putting the text ui back for sketches and photos | 16:12 |
| lcuk | and allowing tagging etc there :) | 16:12 |
| danielwilms | yay...a useful thing | 16:12 |
| lcuk | yeah - the search feels like my brain itself | 16:13 |
| lcuk | as i am typing or scrolling i see flashes of things from other topics and remember lots | 16:13 |
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| lcuk | its so nice to have :) | 16:13 |
| danielwilms | :) | 16:13 |
| danielwilms | damn...no coffee here on sundays :) | 16:14 |
| lcuk | heh take a flask | 16:14 |
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| thux | lcuk: looked really nice, but what is liqbase? | 16:18 |
| lcuk | liqbase is the core groundwork for creating code i can touch and interact with | 16:19 |
| thux | ok | 16:20 |
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| lcuk | vanishing, cya later danielwilms \o | 16:25 |
| danielwilms | lcuk bye bye | 16:25 |
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| Macer | lol | 16:59 |
| Macer | Wii Linux currently does not support the Wii's built-in WiFi, even though the drivers for this device are built into the Linux kernel. | 16:59 |
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| Stskeeps | usb wifi :P | 17:07 |
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| lopz | hola | 17:13 |
| danielwilms | bienvenido ;) | 17:13 |
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| keesj | Setting up osso-fm-transmitter-l10n-ruru (6.0+r6710+0m5) that something new for me. | 17:34 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, there'll be a fm transmitter api | 17:34 |
| keesj | with RDS ? | 17:34 |
| Stskeeps | not sure, maybe | 17:35 |
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| keesj | FM trasmitters seam so old-fashion | 17:36 |
| Stskeeps | very useful in cars | 17:36 |
| keesj | in a few years there will be no FM in cars any more | 17:36 |
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| Stskeeps | or for hacking society :P | 17:36 |
| keesj | "Single white male seeking female, I have nice car and am a great hacker as you can see" | 17:37 |
| danielwilms | the docu is not ready yet for the fm tx api...coming soon | 17:37 |
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| kkrusty | When I bought an n800 about 2 years ago it had a sticker on the screen which I never took off. Is that the screen protecter? | 17:40 |
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| GAN800 | keesj, chipset supports RDS on both sides so it'll be a driver issue. | 17:53 |
| GAN800 | kkrusty, the sticker is attached to thee factory shipping protector. | 17:53 |
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| kkrusty | GAN800: right. thanks | 17:58 |
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| zakkm | anything interesting been happening in the tablet "scene" in the past two weeks? i been away. | 19:38 |
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| lcuk | zakkm, i have given another update :) | 19:46 |
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| lcuk | hiya konttori \o | 19:47 |
| zakkm | liqbase update? | 19:47 |
| lcuk | zakkm theres a video of progress | 19:48 |
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| zakkm | :O | 19:48 |
| zakkm | do link please | 19:48 |
| lcuk | the source is out there but not as a published package or anything yet | 19:48 |
| lcuk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt7qB37sLLo | 19:48 |
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| zakkm | oh wow | 19:49 |
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| lcuk | watch it all first | 19:49 |
| lcuk | and comment on the youtube thing :P | 19:49 |
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| zakkm | you see the new moblin 2.0? | 19:50 |
| xnt14 | lcuk: nice | 19:50 |
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| zakkm | lcuk: you see the new moblin 2.0 UI? | 19:51 |
| xnt14 | zakkm: yeah, but my eee701 doesn't have a atom proc so I can run it :( | 19:51 |
| zakkm | that should be nokia's UI :P | 19:51 |
| xnt14 | :P | 19:51 |
| zakkm | well mer | 19:51 |
| zakkm | it actually needs an atom chip? | 19:52 |
| zakkm | why? | 19:52 |
| Robot101 | zakkm: it uses SSE3 | 19:52 |
| lcuk | for what? | 19:52 |
| Robot101 | it could be rebuilt, but the binaries they provide use it | 19:52 |
| zakkm | ahh | 19:53 |
| GAN800 | zakkm, yeah, because it's so great for finger usage and not-Clutter. . . . | 19:53 |
| zakkm | the celeron 900 doesnt have sse3? | 19:53 |
| zakkm | it must..? | 19:53 |
| xnt14 | lcuk: I just saw the liqbase page and I have to say Awesome! | 19:53 |
| zakkm | the 701 is suppose to have hackintosh support, and mac requires sse2 and 3 | 19:53 |
| lcuk | xnt14, say that on the youtube page lol :D | 19:53 |
| xnt14 | zakkm: nope :(, but my uncle has a hp mini | 19:54 |
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| lcuk | but ty, i agree | 19:54 |
| xnt14 | lcuk: ok, but... | 19:54 |
| * xnt14 hasn't signed on to his youtube acc in months | 19:54 | |
| * xnt14 is signing on... | 19:54 | |
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| zakkm | *just learned you can use your google account on youtube* | 19:54 |
| lcuk | oooh real commitment lol | 19:54 |
| xnt14 | lol | 19:55 |
| lcuk | konttori, have you seen yet | 19:55 |
| lcuk | it does what i spoke about at the summit | 19:55 |
| zakkm | lcuk: does that have a text viewer? | 19:55 |
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| lcuk | zakkm, :) practically the first thing i say in the first ever video is that i want a book reader | 19:56 |
| lcuk | yes, fully kinetic floating document reader exists and is being worked on. ive still not made it do what the other older reader did | 19:57 |
| lcuk | but its coming along nicely | 19:57 |
| lcuk | and im stepping gently there because i want to include good support to add new formats easily | 19:57 |
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| xnt14 | lcuk: done | 19:57 |
| xnt14 | :) | 19:57 |
| lcuk | \o/ | 19:57 |
| xnt14 | btw | 19:57 |
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| * xnt14 is trying out the xmonad wm | 19:58 | |
| zakkm | i gone back to reading textbooks hah | 19:58 |
| xnt14 | :P | 19:58 |
| zakkm | like proper paperback | 19:58 |
| xnt14 | nice, but i can haz c :xD | 19:58 |
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| xnt14 | zakkm: I like to read books on my ipod (well mainly my nit but i don't have it right now) than read paper books :P | 19:59 |
| lcuk | zakkm, im reading latest niven book in hardback :) | 19:59 |
| lcuk | i hope you rated the vid as well :P | 19:59 |
| zakkm | i live in toronto, Canada so its not like i pay for it, public library is awesome but i dont know | 19:59 |
| zakkm | Thanks for rating! | 20:00 |
| lcuk | xnt14, monad was something i looked at when i was thinking about a compositing wm | 20:00 |
| xnt14 | lcuk: done | 20:00 |
| lcuk | it would work nicely | 20:00 |
| xnt14 | lcuk: :) | 20:00 |
| zakkm | lcuk: you should make a whole WM/DE out of liqbase :P | 20:00 |
| lcuk | xnt on a small device like this being able to focus properly and shift around is important | 20:00 |
| lcuk | the benefit of it being in the framework over just a WM is that its multilayered | 20:01 |
| zakkm | you guys actually use the stylus? | 20:01 |
| lcuk | apps can be designed with deep rich levels to explore | 20:01 |
| * xnt14 is now really pissed off, because he just wasted 2 hours installing debian and now the freaking harddrive crashed and everything segfaults | 20:01 | |
| lcuk | ive already got about 20 baseline screens which i didnt go over in the vid | 20:01 |
| xnt14 | zakkm: me not much | 20:01 |
| lcuk | for all different things | 20:01 |
| lcuk | zakkm, i do | 20:01 |
| xnt14 | lcuk: :) | 20:01 |
| lcuk | when im not typing | 20:01 |
| zakkm | watching the video, i notice the stylus , im thinknig wow i didnt think people use it | 20:02 |
| zakkm | ah i want a n810 so much | 20:02 |
| lcuk | zakkm, i stopped fingerpainting when i was young ;) | 20:02 |
| xnt14 | ok... now it won't even boot,, | 20:02 |
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| zakkm | lent my n800 to a friend for like 2 weeks, going to get it back today for a day so i can try some new stuff :P | 20:02 |
| lcuk | and my screen is duffed up so much i cant use it lol | 20:02 |
| * lcuk saves the good n810 for when he really needs it | 20:03 | |
| xnt14 | and now it just sits there and it says press f1 to retry boot, press f2 to setup | 20:03 |
| xnt14 | lcuk :) | 20:03 |
| * xnt14 wants his n810 back | 20:03 | |
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| lcuk | what happened to it | 20:03 |
| xnt14 | well | 20:03 |
| xnt14 | I was in gym class, and it fell out of my pocket and the teacher confiscated it and they can keep it until the end if the year | 20:04 |
| xnt14 | :( | 20:04 |
| lcuk | fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu | 20:04 |
| xnt14 | indeed | 20:04 |
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| lcuk | how long is end of your year then | 20:05 |
| xnt14 | one more month | 20:05 |
| lcuk | cant you offer a bribe lol | 20:06 |
| xnt14 | lcuk: btw the map thing, how about adding a gmaps dl button? | 20:06 |
| lcuk | xnt14 lol | 20:06 |
| zakkm | xnt14: still, didnt that happen like ages ago? | 20:06 |
| lcuk | there is something called floatmap2 in the library at the moment | 20:06 |
| xnt14 | zakkm: yeah :( | 20:06 |
| lcuk | which was me just playing with google maps | 20:06 |
| lcuk | i wouldv left it in properly | 20:06 |
| lcuk | but i got banned from google so i stopped lol | 20:06 |
| zakkm | got banned from google? wow | 20:06 |
| zakkm | i never heard of that | 20:06 |
| lcuk | so it exists but its safer for me to just leave it with a single large static map | 20:07 |
| xnt14 | soooo | 20:07 |
| lcuk | zakkm, tilemap downloading | 20:07 |
| zakkm | lcuk: is the map just a picture file? | 20:07 |
| xnt14 | I have to dl all the maptiles of my area and put them on my sd? | 20:07 |
| lcuk | i set it to download each tile as required | 20:07 |
| lcuk | and i panned across the world | 20:07 |
| xnt14 | well | 20:07 |
| lcuk | and it loads each visible tile | 20:07 |
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| lcuk | so i had about 100 concurrent connections to google servers | 20:07 |
| xnt14 | :P | 20:07 |
| lcuk | and they stopped giving me maps for a while :$ | 20:08 |
| xnt14 | :$ indeed | 20:08 |
| xnt14 | multitouch? YAY :P xD | 20:08 |
| lcuk | *sorry sergey&larry) | 20:08 |
| zakkm | i want real multitouch :D | 20:09 |
| GAN800 | zakkm, no you don't | 20:09 |
| GAN800 | No more liqbase with capacitive. | 20:09 |
| lcuk | xnt14, i havent done anything yet about fake multitouch but i know its available, theres a few things i want in place before i decide on how to use it | 20:09 |
| lcuk | course there is | 20:09 |
| lcuk | just no drawing | 20:09 |
| lcuk | or note taking | 20:10 |
| lcuk | or designing | 20:10 |
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| xnt14 | GAN800: well nit +multitouch + iphone stylus (you now the one for the iphone which some company came out with) = working liqbase | 20:10 |
| xnt14 | lcuk: wait is liqbase a maemo app, or a os? | 20:11 |
| lcuk | ewww have you tried to write notes with a crayon | 20:11 |
| xnt14 | oh yeah :P | 20:11 |
| xnt14 | well | 20:11 |
| xnt14 | I once took notes with a marker cap on my nit | 20:12 |
| lcuk | xnt14, liqbase is just my the basis I need to work in the way I like to work | 20:12 |
| xnt14 | lcuk: so its a app? | 20:12 |
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| xnt14 | how do you launch it? | 20:12 |
| lcuk | its a library | 20:12 |
| xnt14 | oh | 20:12 |
| xnt14 | ok | 20:12 |
| lcuk | i run a binary | 20:12 |
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| lcuk | the first iteration of liqbase was a single monolithic app | 20:13 |
| GAN800 | xnt14, no. | 20:13 |
| lcuk | now it is a library with many plugins for the different visual aspects | 20:13 |
| xnt14 | so the base is a library, and you wrote an app which uses the library to make the nice ui? | 20:13 |
| lcuk | yes | 20:13 |
| xnt14 | GAN800: ok :P | 20:13 |
| GAN800 | xnt14, capacitive simply isn't precise enough. Stylus or no. | 20:13 |
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| xnt14 | lcuk: :) ok | 20:14 |
| zakkm | im so glad i quit programming / computer engineering in school :) | 20:14 |
| lcuk | and any individual plugin can be run as a standalone app or can exist within the main playground | 20:14 |
| lcuk | so if people are solely interested in the book reader they should be able to install and run just that | 20:14 |
| xnt14 | so I can run maemo mapper, or xterm and it would show up in the ui? | 20:14 |
| lcuk | no | 20:14 |
| xnt14 | oh ok :P | 20:14 |
| lcuk | its not a compositing x11 window manager | 20:14 |
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| zakkm | lcuk: for now... :P | 20:15 |
| xnt14 | liqbase + n900 = ? | 20:15 |
| xnt14 | :P | 20:15 |
| zakkm | The Revolution | 20:15 |
| xnt14 | omap3 + liqbase = compiz for the nit ? :P | 20:16 |
| xnt14 | lcuk: this is available? | 20:17 |
| zakkm | lol compiz, on such a small screen | 20:17 |
| zakkm | such a waste | 20:17 |
| xnt14 | you mean I can run it if I had my n810? | 20:17 |
| lcuk | i doubt it personally, im sure theres better window managers - liqbase is yuv based, it would be hard to get the live rgb stuff into it, but it would be good for others to try | 20:17 |
| xnt14 | zakkm: yeah: | 20:17 |
| lcuk | xnt14, the video is me demonstrating it on my 810 | 20:17 |
| xnt14 | lcuk:yeah I know, but you mean I can dl it and run it? | 20:18 |
| lcuk | not easily yet | 20:18 |
| lcuk | there is no package | 20:18 |
| xnt14 | ok but I can compile it? | 20:18 |
| lcuk | its very building site ish and has lots of bugs | 20:18 |
| xnt14 | well | 20:18 |
| xnt14 | ok | 20:18 |
| xnt14 | i dont care | 20:18 |
| lcuk | i want it to be essentially ready before release | 20:18 |
| zakkm | lcuk: cant you just fakeroot build-deb? | 20:18 |
| lcuk | then google knows where to find libliqbase :) | 20:19 |
| zakkm | does it have compile errors/blocks? | 20:19 |
| xnt14 | is there a binary I can download? | 20:19 |
| lcuk | zakkm, i have no debianisms installed | 20:19 |
| xnt14 | just the bin? | 20:19 |
| lcuk | its grown entirely directly on tablet | 20:19 |
| lcuk | it needs heavy work first | 20:19 |
| xnt14 | sooo | 20:19 |
| lcuk | there IS a playtest bin | 20:19 |
| lcuk | just a me | 20:19 |
| lcuk | o | 20:19 |
| lcuk | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=285896&postcount=260 | 20:19 |
| xnt14 | wait is it all in one folder? | 20:19 |
| lcuk | its not got everything but its enough to see | 20:19 |
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| xnt14 | or is it spread all over the fs? | 20:20 |
| lcuk | all in one folder on my memorystick | 20:20 |
| lcuk | with a git server obviously lol | 20:20 |
| xnt14 | how big is it? | 20:20 |
| xnt14 | lol | 20:20 |
| lcuk | but i need to get the debianisms right first | 20:20 |
| lcuk | the binary is about 5mb | 20:20 |
| xnt14 | :P | 20:20 |
| lcuk | the git is about 60 i think | 20:20 |
| lcuk | follow the instructions from the posting and you can get it on your machine | 20:21 |
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| xnt14 | ok :) | 20:21 |
| * xnt14 needs to get his nit back from his parents | 20:22 | |
| xnt14 | brb | 20:22 |
| zakkm | lcuk: run in performance cpu mode - this version doesn't try to upgrade itself yet. | 20:22 |
| lcuk | yeah i know.. | 20:22 |
| zakkm | your going to make it self-update? | 20:22 |
| lcuk | user choosable same as it was in original liqbase | 20:22 |
| lcuk | but with a tick to say "run in blah automatically" | 20:23 |
| zakkm | update to performance mode or update to newest version of liqbase? | 20:23 |
| lcuk | upgrade the cpu setting | 20:24 |
| lcuk | tea ready bbl | 20:25 |
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| xnt14 | YAY, got my nit back | 20:50 |
| * xnt14 downloads liqbase beta | 20:50 | |
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| Xnt_n810 | hello | 20:53 |
| xnt14 | :) | 20:53 |
| Xnt_n810 | :) | 20:53 |
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| xnt14 | now to install liqbase | 20:54 |
| lcuk | s/install liqbase/install the very shaky pretest dodgy version of liqbase/ | 20:54 |
| xnt14 | lcuk: nice, microb friendly page | 20:54 |
| xnt14 | 0.1.5? | 20:55 |
| lcuk | you can install the older monolithic app if you like, i still use it to this day, but the new framework is what i have been discussing | 20:56 |
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| xnt14 | lcuk: the one on maemotalk or the one on liqbase.net? | 20:57 |
| xnt14 | which one? | 20:57 |
| lcuk | this post >> http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=285896&postcount=260 << explains the very shakey playtest binary installation instructions | 20:57 |
| xnt14 | oh ok then | 20:58 |
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| lcuk | there is a full complete original liqbase which is tested and stable but does not do the zooming or other really flashy things :) that is in the app installer | 20:58 |
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| xnt14 | ok :) | 20:59 |
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| RST38h | moo all | 21:02 |
| lcuk | hey RST38h \o | 21:02 |
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| RST38h | how are things? =) | 21:03 |
| * xnt14 wgets it | 21:04 | |
| xnt14 | hello RST38h | 21:05 |
| xnt14 | lcuk: double gziped? :P | 21:06 |
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| xnt14 | OMFG!!!! Awesome!!!! | 21:13 |
| xnt14 | still a little glitchy but still awesome!!! | 21:13 |
| lcuk | which places have glitches | 21:13 |
| lcuk | i have seen and corrected most i had from the playtest | 21:14 |
| lcuk | theres an awful lot the playtest wont do actually | 21:14 |
| lcuk | but its enough to see | 21:14 |
| xnt14 | lcuk: when I hit the thing above the time, and then I scroll the list, it glitches | 21:16 |
| xnt14 | brb | 21:16 |
| lcuk | ahhhh | 21:18 |
| lcuk | xnt14, when you get back, close and reopen vworld | 21:18 |
| lcuk | its a known bug seemingly hardware related on certain machines | 21:18 |
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| zeenix | calvaris: i wonder why you look so familiar? :P | 22:43 |
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| timeless_mbp | hey, my parents sent me an Ad for a Nokia device they saw in the Washingon Post | 23:13 |
| Macer | hm | 23:13 |
| timeless_mbp | s/gon/gton/ | 23:13 |
| infobot | timeless_mbp meant: hey, my parents sent me an Ad for a Nokia device they saw in the Washington Post | 23:13 |
| timeless_mbp | but i think it's really an at&t ad | 23:13 |
| Bobbe | link? | 23:14 |
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| timeless_mbp | i just have a pdf of the thing | 23:25 |
| timeless_mbp | it's not really so interesting | 23:26 |
| timeless_mbp | i'm mostly amazed to hear of any advertising for Nokia products in the US | 23:26 |
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| GAN8001 | E71x | 23:35 |
| GAN8001 | ? | 23:35 |
| * keesj is a little confused about libts and tslib on http://repository.maemo.org/unstable/5.0beta/alpha_vs_beta_content_comparison.html | 23:35 | |
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| keesj | booth are 1.0.4 but are those meta packages containing the same thing? | 23:36 |
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| lcuk | keesj, one is for writing on the front of the tablet, and one is for writing on the back? | 23:36 |
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| RST38h | heh | 23:37 |
| Stskeeps | keesj: one is source package the other is binary | 23:37 |
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| keesj | but it looks like for example tslib-dev was renamed to libts-dev | 23:40 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, to match with debian naming probably | 23:40 |
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| b-man16 | Stskeeps: http://stskeeps.deviantart.com lol | 23:46 |
| Stskeeps | not me | 23:46 |
| Stskeeps | it's some crazy malay | 23:46 |
| b-man16 | XD | 23:47 |
| b-man16 | http://qwerty12.com XD | 23:47 |
| b-man16 | re: | 23:47 |
| b-man16 | http://qwerty12.deviantart.com | 23:47 |
| b-man16 | XD | 23:48 |
| Stskeeps | bored at school are you | 23:49 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 23:49 |
| xnt14 | xD | 23:49 |
| Stskeeps | wait, it's sunday. sunday school? | 23:49 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 23:49 |
| xnt14 | Stskeeps: http://twitter.com/xnt | 23:49 |
| b-man16 | nope, 3 day holiday weekend | 23:49 |
| xnt14 | not me | 23:49 |
| b-man16 | XD | 23:49 |
| xnt14 | b-man: same here | 23:49 |
| xnt14 | no school monday | 23:49 |
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| xnt14 | wait isn't qwerty12's name faheem? | 23:50 |
| b-man16 | yes | 23:50 |
| xnt14 | on the da, look under his name | 23:50 |
| xnt14 | john xD | 23:51 |
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| b-man16 | XD | 23:51 |
| Stskeeps | silly youngins. get coding instead of wasting your time with your current hormonal inbalances | 23:51 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 23:52 |
| * xnt14 is theming liqbase xD, not coding | 23:52 | |
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