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lbt | laggy | 00:26 |
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MakeGho | you forgot to ping, it's 0-1 | 00:32 |
MakeGho | pong | 00:32 |
lbt | ping | 00:34 |
lbt | ping | 00:34 |
lbt | ping | 00:34 |
MakeGho | uh-oh, I'm gonna lose. Pong. pong. pong. | 00:34 |
lbt | PING | 00:35 |
MakeGho | Funny how quiet it's here. I wonder if some evil channel operator will get angry for us playing ping pong here, although there's no conversation here anyway. PONG. | 00:37 |
GeneralAntilles | Eeeeviiiiill! | 00:38 |
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sbx34 | hi i have a queston about the nokia n800 | 00:41 |
lbt | maemo is dead .... long live Mer | 00:41 |
sbx34 | what is the max mem card i can get for it | 00:41 |
lbt | one day when someone buys an N900 the channel will be bright and vibrant again... | 00:41 |
sbx34 | lol | 00:41 |
lbt | sbx34: how wealthy are you? | 00:41 |
lbt | I think 8Gb | 00:42 |
sbx34 | not very lol | 00:42 |
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sbx34 | oh right | 00:42 |
lbt | and the N800 can have 2 | 00:42 |
joyrider | i've got an 8gig sdhc card in my n810 works without problems ... never tried another card though. (it's even a micro sd with a mini sd adaptor) | 00:42 |
sbx34 | but ur not 100% | 00:43 |
sbx34 | so could i get 2 x 8gb | 00:43 |
GeneralAntilles | sbx34, 2TB | 00:43 |
lbt | GA - I thought 8 Max? | 00:44 |
ShadowJK_ | People are using 32gig memory cards with N800 | 00:44 |
lbt | cool | 00:44 |
sbx34 | really | 00:44 |
sbx34 | cool | 00:45 |
GeneralAntilles | lbt, why would you think that? | 00:45 |
lbt | I have seen lots of random limitations around SD/CF etc | 00:45 |
lbt | what's the 770 limit? | 00:45 |
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Stskeeps | depends if you hw mod or not | 00:47 |
lbt | if not? | 00:47 |
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cbx33 | hey guys | 00:48 |
sbx34 | hi :p | 00:48 |
cbx33 | wow been a long time since I been here | 00:48 |
sbx34 | lol well i never been here hehe | 00:48 |
cbx33 | let's see who do I remember, Jaffa, pupnik_ | 00:49 |
Stskeeps | so confusing nicks and numbers.. :P | 00:49 |
cbx33 | heh | 00:49 |
cbx33 | I've been using this nick for a loooong time | 00:49 |
cbx33 | is pupnik_ still porting games? | 00:50 |
cbx33 | :) | 00:50 |
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cbx33 | what's the limit for SD cards on the latest OS again? | 00:51 |
cbx33 | on n800 | 00:51 |
cbx33 | not n810 | 00:51 |
GeneralAntilles | 2TB | 00:51 |
cbx33 | ahh GeneralAntilles I remember you too | 00:52 |
cbx33 | I saw a 2Gb limit somewhere | 00:52 |
cbx33 | is that now old and out of date? | 00:52 |
ShadowJK_ | Even the nokia specs are more optimistic than 2gbyte | 00:52 |
cbx33 | really | 00:52 |
cbx33 | not the ones i saw | 00:52 |
* Stskeeps uses 2,4gb cards and some use 2x32gb cards :P | 00:53 | |
GeneralAntilles | 2TB is the limit. | 00:53 |
cbx33 | ok | 00:53 |
cbx33 | thanks guys | 00:53 |
cbx33 | just the info I needed | 00:53 |
cbx33 | oh | 00:53 |
cbx33 | has anyone managed to get NX ported yet? | 00:53 |
ShadowJK_ | GeneralAntilles, I suspect without a software upgrade, it stops working "automatically" with untouched store-bought cards somewhere before 2TB though? :-) | 00:55 |
GeneralAntilles | As long as you format it to something other than exFAT they'll work just fine. | 00:55 |
GeneralAntilles | No software upgrade needed. | 00:55 |
cbx33 | cool | 00:55 |
cbx33 | well I'm running he latest anyway | 00:56 |
ShadowJK_ | Nokia specs say 8G for N800 and N810.. I guess that was the biggest card available for testing when they designed the hw | 00:59 |
GeneralAntilles | Certified, but yes. | 00:59 |
lbt | that could be where I got 8Gb then... I thought I'd seen it somewhere :) | 01:00 |
cbx33 | what's the best upnp media player for n800/810 | 01:02 |
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cbx33 | or is there even one? | 01:02 |
Myrtti | canola2? | 01:03 |
cbx33 | slimmer? | 01:03 |
lcuk | canola1.7? | 01:04 |
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cbx33 | hahah | 01:05 |
cbx33 | I heard canola was a little bloated | 01:05 |
cbx33 | am I wrong? | 01:05 |
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lbt | did you get an 8Gb card yet .... if so then "no" | 01:07 |
cbx33 | eh? | 01:07 |
cbx33 | you'd install it to the card? | 01:07 |
cbx33 | or do you mean for media? | 01:07 |
lbt | I installed maemo to the card... | 01:08 |
cbx33 | oh | 01:08 |
lbt | N800.... 2 slots | 01:08 |
cbx33 | yeh | 01:08 |
lbt | we rule! | 01:08 |
cbx33 | hehe | 01:08 |
* cbx33 just sold his n800 to sbx34 | 01:08 | |
* cbx33 has an n810 | 01:08 | |
cbx33 | heh | 01:08 |
cbx33 | it still rocks ;) | 01:08 |
cbx33 | right | 01:08 |
cbx33 | catcha later all | 01:08 |
lbt | poor N810 owners with tiny 2Gb rootfs | 01:08 |
cbx33 | *pah* | 01:09 |
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* ShadowJK_ is still using the nor :) | 01:09 | |
lbt | nor? | 01:10 |
GeneralAntilles | NAND | 01:10 |
GeneralAntilles | There's no NOR in the tablets. | 01:10 |
ShadowJK_ | oh :-) | 01:10 |
ShadowJK_ | Well the raw flash then :) | 01:11 |
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ShadowJK_ | not the integrated sd/mmc | 01:11 |
lbt | the eensy weensy tiny thing | 01:11 |
lbt | ^ technical term | 01:12 |
Pavlov | pppp/win 91 | 01:14 |
Pavlov | bah | 01:14 |
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lcuk | johnx, \o so are you both settling in nicely now then | 02:05 |
pupnik_ | "It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does?" | 02:08 |
johnx | lcuk, something like that. this is kind of just a stopover though | 02:08 |
lcuk | ahhh ok, is it good being home tho | 02:08 |
johnx | definitely | 02:09 |
lcuk | :) thats what counts | 02:09 |
johnx | pretty weird though | 02:09 |
lcuk | i bet! | 02:09 |
lcuk | how long were you over there | 02:09 |
johnx | 2 years | 02:09 |
johnx | I had visited back home once 1.5 years ago | 02:09 |
lcuk | you will have culture shock lol | 02:09 |
johnx | I'm having time shock too | 02:10 |
lcuk | its about 8pm there isnt it | 02:10 |
johnx | catching up with friends and realizing they got real jobs and bought houses in the interim O_o; | 02:10 |
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lcuk | yeah, but you travelled halfway round the world! | 02:11 |
lcuk | you all have some catching up to do | 02:11 |
johnx | yeah, but it still feels weird because some things feel like they haven't changed at all | 02:11 |
GeneralAntilles | What? It was only 2 years. :P | 02:12 |
lcuk | heh, its similar with us | 02:12 |
lcuk | strangest change recently was my old school building got knocked down | 02:12 |
johnx | GeneralAntilles, yeah, just a short visit really :) | 02:12 |
johnx | lcuk, weird seeing all the computer stores I used to go to closed up or changed into something else | 02:13 |
lcuk | yeah - evolution rather than revolution | 02:13 |
lcuk | i drive past the computer shop i used to be in awe at | 02:13 |
lcuk | its a florists now | 02:13 |
johnx | heh. all that's old is new again :D | 02:13 |
lcuk | indeed it is johnx :) | 02:14 |
johnx | turns out selling flowers at brick+mortar stores turned out to be the better business model | 02:14 |
lcuk | plastering tv with adverts about [relatives] day helps too ;) | 02:14 |
johnx | the whole mother's day CPU+RAM combo must not have been a hot seller :> | 02:15 |
lcuk | a small bunch of locally grown flowers means more :) | 02:15 |
lcuk | have you decided if you are coming to copenhagen yet? and have you made your application if you want to | 02:16 |
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johnx | I'll decide and apply (or not) by the end of today | 02:17 |
johnx | I still don't know if I'm all that helpful for a lot of this stuff | 02:17 |
lcuk | i think every member of the community would asnwer in the same way: of fucking course you are helpful | 02:18 |
lcuk | :) | 02:18 |
johnx | eh, well if you insist. If I don't acccomplish anything up there I'll put it at your feet :> | 02:19 |
lcuk | you arent intended to accomplish anything, ive got the impression its a brainstorming session :) | 02:21 |
johnx | I'll try and borrow a brain to take along then :) | 02:22 |
lcuk | :D wicked | 02:25 |
* johnx looks around to see who won't miss their's for a bit :> | 02:26 | |
qwerty12_N800 | don't take lcuk's; you'll only see bacon everywhere :P | 02:27 |
lcuk | there is no bacon in the new liqbase! | 02:27 |
lcuk | the media folder doesnt contain ANY! | 02:27 |
johnx | BYOB? | 02:28 |
lcuk | must be for now | 02:29 |
johnx | couldn't get the licensing worked out to redistribute the bacon? sad | 02:29 |
lcuk | lol ill have to put it back | 02:30 |
pupnik_ | heh | 02:30 |
lcuk | it would be massive bacon! | 02:30 |
qwerty12_N800 | yahoo ads think i need | 02:30 |
qwerty12_N800 | bust lift tablets :( | 02:30 |
lcuk | http://liqbase.net/liq.20090412_230229.lib.holymoly.png | 02:30 |
johnx | qwerty12_N800, ouch. I should show you some of my international spam collection though O_o; | 02:31 |
qwerty12_N800 | johnx, heehee, contents of that sound scary :P | 02:31 |
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lcuk | isnt all spam international | 02:32 |
johnx | mine is more international than most I think | 02:33 |
lcuk | lol | 02:33 |
qwerty12_N800 | showoff. :p | 02:34 |
* johnx looks into his spam folder for the first time in months... | 02:34 | |
johnx | spam is really surreal these days to get by bayesian filters ... | 02:34 |
lcuk | qwerty12_N800, did you see the red dwarf episode tonight? | 02:35 |
lcuk | dunno gmail is good at hiding most spam | 02:35 |
GeneralAntilles | I usually just get empty messages. | 02:35 |
lcuk | ive started to recently get random phonecam images sent directly from peoples phones | 02:35 |
qwerty12_N800 | lcuk: nah, was watching the xmen origins film | 02:35 |
lcuk | its awesome! | 02:35 |
johnx | lcuk, like truck drivers and dock workers? | 02:36 |
* lcuk gets an awful lot of things expected to be sent to "*liquid@gmail" | 02:36 | |
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lcuk | real things which dont hit spam cos it isnt | 02:36 |
lcuk | some are scary | 02:36 |
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lcuk | theres a number of users who have things like "mr.liquid@" "real.liquid@" etc | 02:37 |
lcuk | the only thing i can think is people c&p the address and it stops at the . | 02:37 |
johnx | aaaah, that makes sense | 02:38 |
lcuk | qwerty12_N800, the dodgy origins one with bluescreen and wires | 02:39 |
qwerty12_N800 | that's the one! | 02:39 |
lcuk | ^^^^^^^^^^^^ HAXX0R PIRATE ALERT ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ;) | 02:40 |
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qwerty12_N800 | ^^^^^^^^^^ NORTHERNER | 02:40 |
lcuk | :O | 02:41 |
johnx | quick Mr. PIRATE HAXX0R, help me apprehend the Northerner! | 02:41 |
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* lcuk downloads the movie to blend in | 02:41 | |
lcuk | that really has had the streisand effect | 02:41 |
tank-man | so you are liquid@gmail.com :) | 02:41 |
lcuk | yes, liquid@gmail.com | 02:42 |
lcuk | and im downloading a dodgy pirate movie :O | 02:42 |
lcuk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z4-4hHRMM0 | 02:43 |
lcuk | ^ a dodgy pirate movie | 02:44 |
lcuk | omg, this movie IS dodgy | 02:44 |
johnx | does it have pirates? | 02:45 |
lcuk | is that a ninja with a snorkling mask on? | 02:45 |
lcuk | i take that back, this is made of WIN! | 02:46 |
lcuk | it has sound effects! | 02:46 |
lcuk | this has win wrote all over it | 02:46 |
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pupnik_ | oh cool i missed the blade runner game entirely in 1997... | 03:00 |
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Macer | hello | 03:50 |
lcuk | hi Macer \o | 03:56 |
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ciroip | lcuk: still awake?? | 04:08 |
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Macer | hi lcuk | 04:11 |
Macer | hope sts gets the n800 soon heh | 04:11 |
lcuk | heh, at least the delivery folks dont have to rely on its gps ;) | 04:12 |
Macer | that way when i replace it with an n810... mer will be top notch | 04:12 |
GeneralAntilles | The N800 doesn't have GPS. | 04:12 |
lcuk | thats my point ;) | 04:12 |
lcuk | if it was an 810 we could make an excuse | 04:12 |
GeneralAntilles | Hilarious | 04:12 |
Macer | GeneralAntilles: you can hook it up to an ext one ;) | 04:12 |
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GeneralAntilles | Macer, yes, I have several i-blues | 04:13 |
Macer | i used to hook it up to my n95 | 04:13 |
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luke-jr | I am seriously planning to switch to Gentoo on my N810 | 04:37 |
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GeneralAntilles | Silliness | 04:45 |
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crazy_imp | any ideas why the browser stopped working after some days? | 04:54 |
crazy_imp | it doesn't even display the start page anymore | 04:54 |
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GeneralAntilles | /etc/init.d/tablet-browser-daemon restart | 05:08 |
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b-man | ~ping | 05:31 |
infobot | ~pong | 05:31 |
* johnx has no luck with his N800 and his t-mobile USA SE tm506 | 05:41 | |
johnx | hey b-man :) | 05:42 |
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b-man | hello, johnx :) | 05:42 |
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* b-man was allmost successful in emulating Darwin on his N800 using qemu | 05:44 | |
johnx | O_o | 05:45 |
b-man | XD | 05:45 |
* b-man loves qemu | 05:46 | |
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b-man | i also have android, FreeBSD, and FreeDOS running :) | 05:47 |
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* johnx shakes his head | 05:48 | |
johnx | just ... wow | 05:48 |
johnx | congrats, I guess :) | 05:48 |
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b-man | -> freedos http://www.bman.maemobox.org/projects/mer/screenshots/screenshot00.png | 05:49 |
b-man | -> openbsd ttp://www.bman.maemobox.org/projects/mer/screenshots/screenshot01.png | 05:49 |
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johnx | is that arm freebsd or x86 freebsd? | 05:52 |
b-man | x86 | 05:52 |
b-man | on arm | 05:53 |
b-man | aka, it's running on my tablet with qemu ;) | 05:53 |
johnx | well, yeah, but arm openbsd on qemu would probably be (potentially) faster then x86 openbsd on qemu | 05:54 |
johnx | xen or kvm would be cool too | 05:54 |
johnx | and RST38h would finally get freebsd like he's always wanted :> | 05:55 |
b-man | :) | 05:55 |
* b-man 's connection is being annoying slow XP | 06:00 | |
b-man | Android omap2 emulation > http://www.bman.maemobox.org/projects/mer/screenshots/screenshot02.png | 06:04 |
b-man | (NITdroid) ;) | 06:05 |
b-man | splash > http://www.bman.maemobox.org/projects/mer/screenshots/screenshot03.png | 06:05 |
johnx | so that's arm-on-arm? | 06:06 |
b-man | yes | 06:06 |
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b-man | but it's a lot safer than installing NITdroid directly on my tablet ;) | 06:08 |
lcuk | gnite /1 | 06:08 |
lcuk | o/ even lol | 06:08 |
b-man | heh | 06:08 |
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* b-man wonders where xnt is.. | 06:10 | |
b-man | ~seen xnt | 06:10 |
infobot | xnt <n=xnt@pool-96-232-136-40.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 18d 2h 52m 4s ago, saying: 'this thing won't boot off of my usb :P'. | 06:10 |
b-man | hmm, been gone for quite a while :P | 06:11 |
johnx | anyways, back on later | 06:12 |
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b-man | my 4½ month old ubuntu install is still working, suprisingly | 06:15 |
b-man | dispite all of the abuse it's taken | 06:16 |
fireun | it likes abuse | 06:19 |
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fireun | what it doesnt like, is closed video drivers | 06:19 |
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b-man | hehe | 06:19 |
fireun | serious, I finally get half way decent video playback, and now the laptop hangs on suspend | 06:21 |
fireun | so frustrating | 06:21 |
fireun | one step forward, two steps back = linux littany | 06:21 |
b-man | hmm | 06:21 |
* b-man is booting ubuntu on his n800 XD | 06:21 | |
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b-man | with software renderd OpenGL | 06:22 |
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lakin | I've got an SDL program running on the n810. The program is a C++ implementation of the logo on http://www.structuredabstraction.com/. It only updates the rect that contains each ball on each frame. But there is severe tearing when running it on the n810 - Is there any way to wait for a v-sync to minimize tearing? | 08:53 |
lakin | Or any other ways of minimizing this tearing? | 08:53 |
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thux | morning | 09:33 |
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Macer | the day the earth stood still is interesting | 09:42 |
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aquatix | morning all | 09:50 |
thux | after i have to close browser and browserd from load applet, browser doesn't open any page just say 'updating'? after reboot it works | 09:52 |
thux | do browser need some service to restart? | 09:53 |
aquatix | thux: you would have to start the browserd from command line again | 09:53 |
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aquatix | thux: yeah | 09:53 |
thux | ok thanks | 09:53 |
aquatix | sec | 09:53 |
aquatix | /etc/init.d/tablet-browser-daemon | 09:54 |
thux | thanks | 09:54 |
aquatix | so, if you have killed it, do as root: | 09:54 |
aquatix | /etc/init.d/tablet-browser-daemon start | 09:54 |
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Meiz_n810 | morning | 10:24 |
Meiz_n810 | what does Retu ASIC chip do? | 10:24 |
thux | morning Meiz_n810 | 10:27 |
thux | retu is flintstones fred in finnish ain't it :) | 10:28 |
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crazy_imp | aquatix: thanks (and thux for repeating my question :) | 11:35 |
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aquatix | crazy_imp: heh :) | 11:59 |
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RST38h | awfully quiet here today | 12:08 |
aquatix | yep | 12:09 |
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RST38h | Zimbabwe abandoned its national currency at 10E14-a-buill =) | 12:25 |
RST38h | s/buill/bill | 12:25 |
aquatix | heh | 12:26 |
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wazd | Hello maemo! | 12:40 |
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Stskeeps | hello wazd | 12:41 |
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RST38h | Hello wazd! | 12:47 |
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LopLiii | hi , my n810 is restarting over and over only with nokia logo, cannot be flashed with error "Sending request 0x42 failed: Connection timed out" .... help .... | 13:00 |
`0660 | take the battery out, put it back in and let it charge for hours before trying to start it | 13:03 |
`0660 | i think that should help | 13:04 |
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timeless | hello world | 13:30 |
timeless | can someone talk me through lp: | 13:30 |
Stskeeps | launchpad? | 13:32 |
Stskeeps | had a good easter? | 13:32 |
timeless | you mean season when nothing is open? | 13:32 |
Stskeeps | yeah ;) | 13:32 |
Stskeeps | the dorm has a shop that has been open all days, so that's neat :P | 13:32 |
timeless | the perforated cardboard is crunchy as usual | 13:32 |
* timeless waits for people to google that | 13:33 | |
Stskeeps | anyway, lp? | 13:33 |
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Stskeeps | right, l10n in maemo is just insane | 14:22 |
LopLiii | hi again, my n810 is restarting over and over only with nokia logo, cannot be flashed with error "Sending request 0x42 failed: Connection timed out" ....... | 14:26 |
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Stskeeps | and you're running the flasher as root? | 14:28 |
Stskeeps | and following instructions on | 14:28 |
Stskeeps | ~flashing | 14:28 |
infobot | somebody said flashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 14:28 |
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LopLiii | yes as root, using wiki.maemo guides ... | 14:35 |
Stskeeps | nokia cabling and holding down key and such? | 14:36 |
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lcuk | mornin maemo \0 | 14:45 |
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RST38h | morning lcuk | 15:02 |
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lcuk | hiya RST38h | 15:08 |
lcuk | how in the hell did it get to april already! | 15:11 |
thux | what quality sound chip is in n800? comparing mp3 players or ipod | 15:11 |
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aquatix | it's ok | 15:12 |
aquatix | not sure about how it holds up to quality media players | 15:13 |
aquatix | but i guess it's at least on par with the latest ipods :) | 15:13 |
lcuk | dunno thux, if it doesnt you can whack em round the head with it | 15:13 |
thux | then i try to plug it in some speakers | 15:13 |
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lcuk | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12520 | 15:14 |
lcuk | that might help though | 15:14 |
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thux | thanx | 15:17 |
lcuk | did anybody ever diagnose the "battery dies for no reason" issue | 15:20 |
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jaska | argh, stupid windows flasher, and my only linux laptop broke | 17:21 |
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jaska | yay, cursing always helps, this time it actually started flashing | 17:23 |
* lcuk cannot flash his n800 :( | 17:24 | |
jaska | ssu didnt work for me as i stripped out the preinstalled docs package :) | 17:25 |
jaska | guess i might as well delete the files next time so it'll proceed | 17:25 |
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jaska | there went 100d+ uptime | 17:28 |
Stskeeps | of tablet? impressive :p | 17:30 |
jaska | yup :) | 17:30 |
RST38h | ! | 17:30 |
RST38h | Moo Sts | 17:30 |
jaska | it serves as my in-house ssh terminal most of the time so it didnt have a chance to crash or anything | 17:30 |
Stskeeps | moo RST38h | 17:30 |
RST38h | Sts: Ever installed MeR on a WinCE hardware like that dreaded Glofish phone? | 17:30 |
Stskeeps | RST38h: well, no, but it looks like it has a linux kernel for it | 17:31 |
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Stskeeps | it has Haret support, at least | 17:32 |
RST38h | Cool, let me tell that to the poor soul who has got one of these | 17:33 |
RST38h | Poor guy still thinks he can live with it, but it is temporary | 17:35 |
Stskeeps | it's armv4, so it would probably run same sw as openmoko | 17:35 |
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Stskeeps | armv4t, that is | 17:36 |
lopz | hola | 17:36 |
Stskeeps | RST38h: when we get the openmoko port going, it should work for that thing too | 17:36 |
RST38h | As soon as he comes to conclusion that his $200 are irrevercibly lost, you may get another guinea pig to experiment on :) | 17:36 |
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Stskeeps | it just really has to be 640x480 though | 17:37 |
Stskeeps | (not sure what model he has) | 17:38 |
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Stskeeps | how 480x640 looks atm: http://trac.tspre.org/smarty/screenshot06.png | 17:39 |
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RST38h | Sts: It has got 640x480 | 17:43 |
Stskeeps | well then | 17:43 |
Stskeeps | then it should be possible, but with the debian-armel port | 17:44 |
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lcuk | question, i have a calendar display. it has a set of icons along the side, one of them (the up arrow currently) should show an icon for "TODAY" when clicked the calendar should return to show today like it does when it starts | 17:49 |
lcuk | http://liqbase.net/liq.20090413_153415.lib.scr.png | 17:49 |
lcuk | any ideas | 17:49 |
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RST38h | What is the question though? | 17:51 |
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lcuk | what kind of icon | 17:51 |
lcuk | im used to just writing the word- icons are new to me | 17:51 |
RST38h | Ah | 17:52 |
RST38h | Use an alarm clock | 17:53 |
RST38h | And do ask wazd for icons, he is much better at them than any of us | 17:53 |
lcuk | yeah i know :) im just thinking out loud, im feeling better about having toolbars | 17:54 |
lcuk | http://liqbase.net/liq.20090412_170810.lib.scr.png | 17:54 |
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RST38h | lcuk: this will win from a few changes | 17:56 |
lcuk | what will? | 17:57 |
RST38h | lcuk: 1. put toolbar on the left, like in the previous image 2. make tree level shift smaller to save space 3. use different colors for odd and even rows in the list | 17:58 |
lcuk | oh that, yeah it was just a quick list to show zach some aspects of the cell structure | 17:58 |
lcuk | and how to parse it | 17:58 |
lcuk | many more changes are coming with it | 17:58 |
lcuk | http://liqbase.net/liq.20090412_142100.lib.scr.png | 17:59 |
lcuk | that one was with icons im not allowed to use ;) | 17:59 |
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lcuk | bbl anyway | 18:03 |
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RST38h | lcuk: What is wrong with these icons? | 18:07 |
RST38h | look generic | 18:07 |
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qwerty12 | fremantle icons, non-free | 18:07 |
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RST38h | qwerty: Doesn't Diablo have a similar set of stock icons? | 18:14 |
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* RST38h even remembers them being open source | 18:14 | |
Stskeeps | there's some fugly ones :P | 18:14 |
qwerty12 | The SDK ones are CC licensed but they really look fugly :( | 18:14 |
qwerty12 | The ones used on device aren't free :/ | 18:14 |
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RST38h | Oh | 18:18 |
RST38h | how about finding some decent ones on wikipedia? | 18:18 |
RST38h | BTW, a classic: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-540 | 18:18 |
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jaska | carnivorous inflatable doll! | 18:25 |
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qwerty12 | lol | 18:25 |
* qwerty12 remembers an old "only fools and horses episode" where the dolls literally did blow up... | 18:26 | |
RST38h | qwerty: also, see "Wilt" by Tom Sharpe | 18:26 |
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qwerty12 | heh | 18:28 |
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Blafasel | RST38h: I don't get that.. Is this about a TV series or something? The wiki is - confusing. | 18:31 |
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RST38h | Blafasel: hehe | 18:35 |
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Prozak | hello everbody | 19:01 |
Jaffa | lo | 19:03 |
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Prozak | so, i was hoping an experienced maemo user could give me some pointers about Nokia's N8XX gadgets... to see if i should buy either the 800 the 810 or wait for the new one... anyone available? | 19:13 |
Jaffa | New one should be announced properly RSN - but there's no real information on when it'll be available (hope is summer) | 19:14 |
Jaffa | But it'll be pricier than an N810 | 19:14 |
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Prozak | but talking about capabilities, basically what i want is to use it as my PDA, stick my current GSM chip and use it as 3g bluetooth modem for my lap and .. u know... mobile computing.. hehe... | 19:16 |
Stskeeps | ah, it doesn't have 3g inside | 19:17 |
Stskeeps | then wait for next one, it does | 19:17 |
Jaffa | If you want to stick a SIM inside it - you can't use an N810 as it has no GSM/GPRS/UMTS hardware | 19:17 |
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Prozak | whaaat rly? | 19:17 |
Prozak | woa that sucks | 19:17 |
Stskeeps | not really | 19:18 |
Stskeeps | they're internet tablets | 19:18 |
Prozak | damn i will have to wait :( | 19:18 |
Prozak | so that means... wifi only? | 19:18 |
Jaffa | And Bluetooth to connect to a phone | 19:18 |
Stskeeps | or usbnet if you hax it | 19:18 |
Prozak | damn | 19:18 |
slonopotamus | hehe | 19:19 |
Prozak | so.. i'll have to wait | 19:19 |
Stskeeps | Jaffa: http://trac.tspre.org/qwerty12/blueman/bl3.png | 19:19 |
Jaffa | Stskeeps: nice | 19:19 |
Prozak | so im guessing that maemo only runs in nokia products | 19:19 |
Stskeeps | maemo does, but the platform (hildon, etc) runs on other devices too | 19:20 |
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slonopotamus | it's pda, man :) no stinky communicator/smartphone/whatever | 19:20 |
Prozak | anyone knows like a cool N8XX killer? | 19:20 |
Stskeeps | rx-51, hopefully, the next tablet ;) | 19:20 |
slonopotamus | Prozak, there isn't any | 19:20 |
Prozak | agh.. now i want the summer to come... i need my little hitchiker guide xD | 19:21 |
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Prozak | thanks for the pointers guys | 19:22 |
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* slonopotamus 's wife still uses good old palm Vx to read books. it still doesn't have any alternatives, e-ink readers are too expensive | 19:24 | |
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* aquatix likes his n810 in portrait mode with fbreader | 19:24 | |
aquatix | white font on black bg | 19:25 |
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slonopotamus | aquatix, too short battery life | 19:26 |
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pupnik | a translator app on the tablet might sell a few copies | 19:46 |
Stskeeps | stardict? :P | 19:47 |
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Macer | indiana jones and the kingdom of the crystal skull was so absolutely horrible | 19:47 |
Stskeeps | south park had it right, eh? | 19:48 |
Macer | the one where they treated it like a rape victim? :) | 19:48 |
Stskeeps | yup | 19:48 |
Macer | i died laughing when they ran in on them raping a stormtrooper | 19:49 |
Stskeeps | not that there is anything funny about rape, but yes, they raped that movie :P | 19:49 |
Macer | but yeah.. it was just a real real real bad movie | 19:49 |
Macer | they tried to go too retro with it.. try to give it the feel of a 1980s hollywood set movie | 19:49 |
Macer | not to mention the story itself sucked :) as did the screenplay | 19:50 |
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Macer | i'm downloading a few hd movies | 19:51 |
Macer | and i made the mistake of giving it the benefit of the doubt | 19:51 |
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Macer | but no.. the rumors are true.. it sucks :) | 19:51 |
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Jaffa | ragnar's hinting we "don't need to wait too long anymore. :)" [about product announcements] | 21:41 |
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lcuk | o_O | 21:43 |
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lcuk | Jaffa, so whats the betting on an announcement and then how long after? | 21:52 |
Stskeeps | no, the discussion is "will rx-51 be out before openpandora" | 21:53 |
Stskeeps | :p | 21:53 |
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lcuk | lol Stskeeps | 21:55 |
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lcuk | have you got onto the dev program of pandora or havent you tried | 21:55 |
Stskeeps | i'm betting on rx-51 first | 21:55 |
* ShadowJK wants a touchbook :/ | 21:56 | |
Stskeeps | lcuk: too much in my hands, and i'm waiting for a touchbook | 21:57 |
ShadowJK | are you going to buy one or are you getting one for free? :P | 21:58 |
Stskeeps | no clue. | 21:58 |
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Stskeeps | my bet is people will port it solely based on the beagleboard port though | 21:58 |
ShadowJK | iow you're waiting like the rest of us mortals :) | 21:58 |
Stskeeps | yup | 21:59 |
Stskeeps | i just hope macer's N800 make it to .dk before my poland trip | 21:59 |
* Jaffa wants a Touchbook and an RX-x1. Would bet on a next-gen Maemo device announcement followed by shipping within 6 weeks | 21:59 | |
Stskeeps | i will be bored to death otherwise | 21:59 |
Jaffa | (i.e. 6 weeks from announcement to shipping) | 21:59 |
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pupnik | i'm stunned at how little has been done with games since i quit | 22:00 |
Stskeeps | pupnik: should get started on Mer games :P | 22:00 |
Stskeeps | much saner to port | 22:00 |
lcuk | pupnik, speak to joyrider | 22:00 |
lcuk | hes come over from the gp2x community | 22:00 |
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pupnik | i don't think i can make money with computers. moving on. | 22:01 |
ShadowJK | I'll bet on announcement mid-may | 22:01 |
Stskeeps | pupnik: computer work income is just bribes from people not understanding your software, in order to get you to help them | 22:01 |
Stskeeps | :P | 22:01 |
lcuk | ShadowJK, problem is i cant think of anything happening around that time where a group of people would all be together | 22:02 |
pupnik | well that's not quite true. i don't think i can make money releasing software. i can* program things though. | 22:02 |
pupnik | and those things can be sold soon | 22:02 |
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Jaffa | lcuk: indeed - I can't think of anything big (not done any research) before OSiM/summit :-/ | 22:02 |
ShadowJK | lcuk: i can however think of many work-impeding events before and after | 22:02 |
pupnik | tah tah | 22:02 |
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lcuk | maybe late may perhaps | 22:03 |
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Stskeeps | i think fremantle beta latest end of may | 22:03 |
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ShadowJK | But I guess it depends if nokia has managed to get rid of the traditional .fi boozing holidays and the "put everything on hold, it's /warm/ outside for a change!"-season | 22:04 |
lcuk | heh | 22:04 |
lcuk | you have a point | 22:04 |
* RST38h moos | 22:04 | |
lcuk | if they are anything like us brits, first spot of sunshine and the motorways/beaches are packed and bbq smells heavy in the air | 22:05 |
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Jaffa | ShadowJK: actually, if previous experience is to go on they'll release the Maemo 5 lead device and *then* go on holiday whilst we pick up the pieces ;-) | 22:06 |
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Jaffa | So, we have a hard deadline now :) | 22:07 |
lcuk | its amazing what internet rumours can do lol | 22:07 |
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