| keesj | oli: http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2007/webcam_server/ | 00:00 |
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| bacon_sandwich | is the pic on the laptop a previous image, or live stream? | 00:00 |
| oli | keesj: got gstmjpg or something like this | 00:00 |
| benson | previous image. | 00:00 |
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| oli | i can stream and take photos, but quality just sucks ;p | 00:01 |
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| timelE61i | the camera was never advertised as high quality | 00:04 |
| oli | I know, but I would like to take photos with delay (ex. 60 sec) and convert them into 25fps movie | 00:05 |
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| timelE61i | time-lapse | 00:07 |
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| GeneralAntilles | timelE61i, it was "corrupted" so I couldn't install. | 00:08 |
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| GeneralAntilles | timelE61i, just giving you shit over the control file. ;) | 00:08 |
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| timelE61i | gan: switch to stage | 00:10 |
| timelE61i | It should work | 00:10 |
| timelE61i | (it worked for me) | 00:11 |
| timelE61i | Fwiw, a future version will give a different string for that error | 00:11 |
| timelE61i | Probably 0.1.1 | 00:11 |
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| brdusr | i cant install mer ... i take the install file from the wiki and done the complete proceed with bootmenue but maemo load and my mmc's are emty oO | 00:13 |
| FireFox | 0_o | 00:15 |
| timelE61i | to everyone, please take notes about any strings you don't like :) | 00:15 |
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| brdusr | hi b-man i'm a new fan from your forum thrads :-D respekt from hamburg to you ... you make a great job :-D | 00:16 |
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| b-man | hehe, thanks :D | 00:17 |
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| b-man | brdusr: btw, i'll be releasing a newer version of merinstaller soon so that problem will hopefully be fixed ;) | 00:18 |
| brdusr | :-) just wont say that, cause i got my 810er one ween and your threads are very helpfull for me ... thank you for this again, and again | 00:19 |
| brdusr | oh thats great :-D | 00:19 |
| timelE61i | b-man: hey, feel free to pull in the enus string sets (esp 0.1.1) :) | 00:19 |
| b-man | ??? | 00:20 |
| timelE61i | Is the installer unrelated to mer's content? | 00:20 |
| Stskeeps | completely, it's a delivery system | 00:20 |
| Stskeeps | imager is me :P | 00:20 |
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| timelE61i | Oops :) | 00:21 |
| timelE61i | Ok, well, same to you :) | 00:21 |
| timelE61i | If you really need some extra fremantle strings, i can add them | 00:21 |
| Stskeeps | alright, i'll add it to TODO | 00:22 |
| brdusr | this from the wiki -> okia N8x0 - Flashable image (untested) <- how can i handle this images with flasher ??? | 00:22 |
| timelE61i | a locale switcher would be nice :) | 00:22 |
| Stskeeps | brdusr: 0.6 page, you dont want to use that flashable image :P | 00:22 |
| Stskeeps | 0.7 one is still a bit broken so | 00:22 |
| brdusr | :-( | 00:23 |
| brdusr | ok | 00:24 |
| brdusr | and 0.6 installer file will run on 810 ??? | 00:24 |
| brdusr | :-) | 00:24 |
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| timelE61i | gan, so are you trying it from stage ? :) | 00:26 |
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| * b-man ponders if the ubuntu n8x0 repo is complete enough to safely discontinue the use of the mer/deblet repo in his ubuntu jauntu port... possibly | 00:28 | |
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| Stskeeps | brdusr: it will possibly steal your wife.. dont use 0.6, its outdated by now :P | 00:29 |
| b-man | re: jaunty :P | 00:29 |
| b-man | lol | 00:29 |
| GeneralAntilles | timelE61i, I'm too lazy for that. | 00:31 |
| GeneralAntilles | Waiting for rmo to work | 00:31 |
| brdusr | *g* ok, so what is wrong with o.7 install proceed .. after install i cant choose a os and maemo starting up but the install proceen with bootmenu dont shows any errors | 00:31 |
| Stskeeps | used the .install? | 00:31 |
| brdusr | i download the install file from the wiki page ... start the installer from the tablet menu and the terminal comes up ... i answere any questions with yes and reboot | 00:32 |
| brdusr | ahhhh | 00:32 |
| brdusr | so you mean i'm not a root ??? | 00:32 |
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| brdusr | i dont have install suduser or something ... need i root for the install file ??? Oo | 00:33 |
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| thp | where can i a list of valid package categories? | 00:36 |
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| brdusr | ok i will start it one more time step by step maybe i forget something | 00:37 |
| qwerty12_N800 | thp, https://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Package_categories | 00:38 |
| brdusr | first download the .install file from the wiki | 00:38 |
| thp | qwerty12_N800: thanks :) | 00:39 |
| qwerty12_N800 | np :) | 00:39 |
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| wazd | aw goddamn! | 00:40 |
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| wazd | My pen stoped responding | 00:40 |
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| brdusr | after rebooting from the Bootmenue installer ... i will start the "Install Mer" Button ... but i dont know - have i do something before ??? | 00:45 |
| brdusr | with this /etc/bootmenu.d/ oO i dont understand this | 00:46 |
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| lardman_ | does gtk_widget_queue_draw() invalidate an entire widget's area and schedule it for a re-draw (i.e. expose-event will be delivered to it)? | 00:59 |
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| lardman | and equally, why do widgets on a tab of a notebook not receive expose-event messages when the tab changes and they are exposed? Or should I hook into a different signal? | 01:00 |
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| lardman | but perhaps none of that matters, I'm using gst_x_overlay_set_xwindow_id() to set the widget into which I want to render some video; can I hide that widget (on a tab of my notebook) and then reveal it again, without needing any extra code (doesn't work for me)? | 01:01 |
| lardman | I should say, "should I be able to..." | 01:02 |
| bacon_sandwich | lardman, first question, yes | 01:10 |
| bacon_sandwich | to specify an area within a widget you would use gtk_widget_queue_draw_area | 01:10 |
| bacon_sandwich | which is what i used during some tests last week :) | 01:11 |
| lardman | I think I need to tack _area() onto the end of that fn to work for a widget created with gtk_drawing_area_new() though? | 01:11 |
| lardman | ah, so that works for you, I'll try that instead, the one I said first doens't seem to do anything at all | 01:11 |
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| bacon_sandwich | i believe not, the general function invalidates all | 01:11 |
| bacon_sandwich | the _area function invalidates a portion | 01:11 |
| bacon_sandwich | or so i believe | 01:11 |
| lardman | hmm | 01:12 |
| lardman | ok | 01:12 |
| lardman | any thoughts about xvimagesinks and whether I need to disable the xv-ness when it's not foreground any more? | 01:12 |
| bacon_sandwich | how are you preparing the expose event | 01:13 |
| lardman | good question, let me see | 01:14 |
| bacon_sandwich | i used | 01:15 |
| bacon_sandwich | g_signal_connect (G_OBJECT (drawing_area), "expose_event", G_CALLBACK (on_expose), NULL); | 01:15 |
| brdusr | try to install mer again ... dont understand this from the wiki page: | 01:15 |
| brdusr | """If you are cloning or booting other OS'es, you'll need to make such .item files] """ | 01:15 |
| brdusr | oO | 01:15 |
| bacon_sandwich | (i started reading lots of the examples | 01:15 |
| brdusr | .item files what the content of this file and how can i create one in the following folder oO | 01:16 |
| lardman | bacon_sandwich: well I think that GStreamer will render straight into the widget's window as I've asked it to | 01:16 |
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| bacon_sandwich | yeah, it used to work before without much hassle and no complex code | 01:17 |
| bacon_sandwich | did you test the minimize | 01:17 |
| bacon_sandwich | !!! look at khertans new mnotes | 01:17 |
| bacon_sandwich | he used pygtk and gstreamer | 01:18 |
| bacon_sandwich | and tabs | 01:18 |
| bacon_sandwich | and camera | 01:18 |
| lardman | not had a chance to test yet | 01:18 |
| bacon_sandwich | that should give you a clue | 01:18 |
| lardman | pygtk though | 01:18 |
| bacon_sandwich | its the same though | 01:18 |
| lardman | ok, will have a look see | 01:18 |
| lardman | thanks | 01:18 |
| bacon_sandwich | the flow should be identical even though the language is different - you are still accessing the same libraries in the same order, just got a bit of glue around them | 01:19 |
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| bacon_sandwich | ive got physics view into the new liqbase :) | 01:19 |
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| brdusr | simple terminal question ... what the command to create / make a new file ??? | 01:22 |
| lardman | so I guess that xv is just displaying the video without gtk needing to know about it | 01:22 |
| johnx | brdusr, touch file | 01:22 |
| lardman | in which case, does xv handle the case of the window being obscured? | 01:23 |
| johnx | that will make a new empty file named 'file' | 01:23 |
| brdusr | thanks | 01:23 |
| brdusr | and how i can rename it to an .item file ? :-) | 01:23 |
| lardman | mv | 01:24 |
| bacon_sandwich | lardman, i dunno, i stripped out all that side of it, but i would assume its such a normal condition that it wouldnt have been omitted | 01:24 |
| brdusr | thank you | 01:24 |
| brdusr | :-) | 01:24 |
| lardman | bacon_sandwich: yeah, my thought too | 01:24 |
| lardman | brdusr: better to have just touched the file with the right name first off | 01:24 |
| bacon_sandwich | like i said, simplest test of all - minimise the window and bring it back | 01:25 |
| bacon_sandwich | dont touch the tab and just check that | 01:25 |
| bacon_sandwich | should be an ultra quick simple check | 01:25 |
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| lardman | yeah, but I'd need to dig out a device for that :p | 01:25 |
| bacon_sandwich | how are you developing now? | 01:25 |
| lardman | I'm not atm, was just looking at the code | 01:26 |
| bacon_sandwich | heh | 01:26 |
| lardman | am running Windows atm as was doing some day job work | 01:26 |
| brdusr | @landman did you now how i have to rename a .item file for bootmenu ??? so can i choose a free word or have i use a special name like mer ? | 01:26 |
| bacon_sandwich | i cant do that normally, im not very far from a compiler at any time | 01:26 |
| bacon_sandwich | brdusr, why are you adding new bootmenu items | 01:27 |
| brdusr | i read this in the wiki how to ... installing Mer | 01:27 |
| brdusr | the step is here : | 01:28 |
| brdusr | """""" This is a special boot menu where boot menu items are made in /etc/bootmenu.d/*.item and refresh_bootmenu.d will flash this to initfs. If you are cloning or booting other OS'es, you'll need to make such .item files] """"""""" | 01:28 |
| lardman | bacon_sandwich: and n800 has some broken code on it atm, will need to recompile and test tomorrow | 01:28 |
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| bacon_sandwich | brdusr, shout Stskeeps or b-man or go into #mer and ask, you are the first who has mentioned stuff like that i believe | 01:30 |
| bacon_sandwich | tsk tsk lardman | 01:30 |
| wazd | daaaamn, I've broken my pen | 01:30 |
| b-man | hehe | 01:30 |
| * wazd swears loud | 01:31 | |
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| bacon_sandwich | b-man, that doesnt sound right for normal install does it? | 01:31 |
| bacon_sandwich | wazd, which pen? one for your tablet/ | 01:31 |
| brdusr | ok | 01:31 |
| brdusr | :-) | 01:31 |
| wazd | bacon_sandwich: yep( | 01:31 |
| lardman | right, am off to bed | 01:31 |
| b-man | bacon_sandwich: no :P | 01:32 |
| lardman | thanks for the pointers bacon_sandwich | 01:32 |
| wazd | I costs fricking 50 bucks((99\ | 01:32 |
| lardman | and damn you for making me hungry at bedtime! | 01:32 |
| bacon_sandwich | balls, the one in my x41 exists for now, but the longer i let the kids play with it, the less likely it will stay.. | 01:32 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | "thanks for the pointers bacon_sandwich" - never thought I'd hear that one :) | 01:32 |
| b-man | lol | 01:33 |
| * b-man updates his avatar on ITT :) | 01:33 | |
| wazd | but I'm so brutal, that I'll continue to design with touchpad!) | 01:33 |
| * bacon_sandwich smells delicious | 01:33 | |
| b-man | lol XD | 01:33 |
| bacon_sandwich | wazd, thats sadistic | 01:34 |
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| wazd | bacon_sandwich: well, not for me :) | 01:34 |
| bacon_sandwich | the nipple is evil | 01:34 |
| wazd | bacon_sandwich: I have nothing to point left :) | 01:34 |
| bacon_sandwich | s/nipple/touchpad/ | 01:34 |
| infobot | bacon_sandwich meant: the touchpad is evil | 01:34 |
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| b-man | infobot: eat bacon_sandwich | 01:34 |
| * infobot eats bacon_sandwich and falls over dead | 01:34 | |
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| b-man | lol | 01:35 |
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| bacon_sandwich | :O | 01:35 |
| b-man | XD | 01:35 |
| * bacon_sandwich is poisonous | 01:35 | |
| * b-man falls dead laughing | 01:35 | |
| bacon_sandwich | :D yayyy another victim | 01:35 |
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| b-man | XD | 01:36 |
| * bacon_sandwich gets on with building his universe | 01:36 | |
| wazd | infobot: fry bacon_sandwich | 01:36 |
| * infobot grabs bacon_sandwich and fries him on his BFCooker9000 | 01:36 | |
| brdusr | possibel to change the background color from the first screen with the nokia logo into black ??? | 01:36 |
| GeneralAntilles | Ungh | 01:37 |
| b-man | lol | 01:37 |
| bacon_sandwich | :O | 01:37 |
| GeneralAntilles | I want a BLT | 01:37 |
| *** bacon_sandwich is now known as BLT | 01:37 | |
| BLT | Tadaaaaaaaaa | 01:37 |
| b-man | XDXDXD | 01:37 |
| lbt | mmm - I like Qt a *lot*. | 01:37 |
| wazd | xD | 01:37 |
| qwerty12_N800 | bacon_sandwich, you've got me thinking of scarface :) | 01:37 |
| lbt | QtShopper does finger scrolling | 01:37 |
| *** BLT is now known as lcuk | 01:37 | |
| lbt | and you can buy Cheese and Bacon | 01:37 |
| lcuk | nice | 01:37 |
| wazd | infobot: are you ready? | 01:38 |
| wazd | ~burn himself | 01:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | Worst part of a BLT is cooking the bacon. | 01:38 |
| * infobot pours gasoline all over himself, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze | 01:38 | |
| wazd | >:D | 01:38 |
| b-man | hehe | 01:38 |
| brdusr | ôO | 01:38 |
| brdusr | ~~ | 01:38 |
| infobot | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. | 01:38 |
| lcuk | thats the best part, you get to lick the pan | 01:38 |
| b-man | lol | 01:38 |
| lbt | somehow when I switched in and saw bacon I knew I'd see lcuk soon | 01:38 |
| genewitch | ~immolate | 01:38 |
| b-man | infobot: blow up | 01:38 |
| lcuk | heh | 01:38 |
| * infobot blows up | 01:38 | |
| b-man | lol | 01:38 |
| brdusr | *ggg* | 01:39 |
| wazd | poor infobot | 01:39 |
| qwerty12_N800 | infobot, you suck | 01:39 |
| infobot | and very well I might add | 01:39 |
| b-man | lol | 01:39 |
| wazd | xD | 01:39 |
| wazd | omg) | 01:39 |
| wazd | gay alert! xD | 01:39 |
| b-man | lol XD | 01:39 |
| qwerty12_N800 | infobot, suck cock | 01:39 |
| * infobot sucks cock's cheek | 01:39 | |
| lcuk | infbot is genderless | 01:39 |
| GeneralAntilles | lcuk, somebody needs to make a bacon cooker. | 01:39 |
| b-man | lol | 01:39 |
| GeneralAntilles | Like a rice cooker, but for bacon. | 01:39 |
| brdusr | LOL | 01:40 |
| qwerty12_N800 | lcuk, type ~shag | 01:40 |
| b-man | LOL!!! | 01:40 |
| qwerty12_N800 | you'll find out... | 01:40 |
| lcuk | GeneralAntilles, they have one, why else would man have invented the range? | 01:40 |
| b-man | infobot: kill yourself | 01:40 |
| * infobot shoots a ionized pseudoneutrino gun at yourself | 01:40 | |
| b-man | lol | 01:40 |
| GeneralAntilles | lcuk, but that's not set it and forget it. | 01:40 |
| wazd | infobot, obey! | 01:40 |
| brdusr | x.X | 01:40 |
| infobot | yes master | 01:40 |
| brdusr | ~~ | 01:41 |
| infobot | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. | 01:41 |
| b-man | infobot: kill himself | 01:41 |
| * infobot shoots a excited fluxphoton gun at himself | 01:41 | |
| b-man | lol XD | 01:41 |
| GeneralAntilles | Ho ho http://www.amazon.com/Presto-05100-Microwave-Bacon-Cooker/dp/B00006IUWC | 01:41 |
| wazd | infobot: surender or die! | 01:41 |
| * GeneralAntilles has never cared for microwave bacon, though. | 01:41 | |
| lcuk | lbt, you are aware at some point in the future i might fall upon qt :P | 01:41 |
| lcuk | GeneralAntilles, nor have i | 01:41 |
| qwerty12_N800 | infobot, wanna roll up? | 01:41 |
| wazd | not with you, hum xD | 01:42 |
| GeneralAntilles | I have a tendency to burn bacon on the stove, though. | 01:42 |
| johnx | microwave bacon is the antichrist of breakfast meats | 01:42 |
| b-man | infobot: nuke himself | 01:42 |
| * infobot prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at himself ... B☢☢M! | 01:42 | |
| qwerty12_N800 | wazd, :p | 01:42 |
| b-man | lol | 01:42 |
| lcuk | http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/stove/img/esse-ironheart-cooker-stove.jpg | 01:42 |
| lbt | lcuk: Qt is like bacon | 01:42 |
| GeneralAntilles | I need to the point where I should turn it and remember trichinosis. | 01:42 |
| lcuk | that is the perfect bacon cooker :) | 01:42 |
| GeneralAntilles | lcuk, for a crazy person. :P | 01:42 |
| lcuk | lbt, i know, i just think its way overbloat for whats needed | 01:42 |
| lbt | meh - it's fairly nippy in practice | 01:43 |
| lcuk | but thats the language abuse over the utility of the widgets | 01:43 |
| lbt | and it depends what you use | 01:43 |
| lcuk | not saying its not | 01:43 |
| lbt | nah - the only 'abuse' is some syntactic sugar around the signals AFAIK | 01:44 |
| lbt | and having seen how it is done vs how libsig++ did it | 01:44 |
| lcuk | agreed, but its still lots more than im used to | 01:44 |
| lcuk | i hate myself for doing this in c | 01:44 |
| lcuk | :) i just prefer a simple language | 01:44 |
| Jucato | good day/evening! quick question: is it possible to format/partition and boot from the internal 2GB memory? even just 1GB would be a big difference from the 256MB one :) | 01:45 |
| lbt | It took me about 20mins to add finger scrolling to my application | 01:45 |
| lcuk | ie - in visual basic its compact and functional whilst having all the events and stuff | 01:45 |
| Jucato | or is that only possible with the external memory card? | 01:45 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Jucato, you can do it with the 2gb | 01:45 |
| johnx | Jucato, anything you can do with an external card can be done with the internal | 01:45 |
| Jucato | oh cool :) | 01:45 |
| lcuk | lbt, but wouldnt it be beneficial to the tookkit as a whole for you as an app designer to not care about finger scrolling | 01:45 |
| lcuk | and that it should just occur | 01:45 |
| lbt | Qt 4.5 has it natively | 01:46 |
| lbt | AFAIK | 01:46 |
| lcuk | hmmm is that released | 01:46 |
| lbt | Beta | 01:46 |
| Jucato | the RC just released today.. | 01:46 |
| lcuk | ahhh | 01:46 |
| lbt | http://code.google.com/p/pictureflow/ | 01:46 |
| lbt | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwE_UIHSWnY | 01:46 |
| lcuk | yeah, there will be other things, but to me lack of touchability for most of the screen kills it as a target personally | 01:47 |
| lcuk | that runs at about 2fps doesnt it | 01:47 |
| Jucato | lbt: http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/qt-4.5-release-candidate-available | 01:47 |
| lbt | Jucato: hows the maemo integration going? | 01:47 |
| Jucato | no idea :) | 01:48 |
| * Jucato is just new :) | 01:48 | |
| lbt | http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:6kdF8X9HRekJ:akademy.kde.org/conference/slides/maemo_qt.pdf+qt+finger+scrolling&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=10&client=iceweasel-a | 01:48 |
| Jucato | hm. gnuton isn't here... | 01:48 |
| lcuk | lbt, but it should be impressive if it can be linked with ogl-es | 01:48 |
| lbt | that link was to GnuTon's paper | 01:48 |
| lbt | lcuk: that youtube was without OpenGL | 01:48 |
| lcuk | on a desktop | 01:49 |
| Jucato | lcuk: will there ever be a chance that the n810 will also get ogl-es? :( | 01:49 |
| lbt | chumby | 01:49 |
| lcuk | Jucato, ive spoken as much as i can and it looks extremely doubtful | 01:49 |
| * Jucato subs | 01:49 | |
| lbt | sorry, this is chumby : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2yN0F7_YlI | 01:49 |
| Jucato | er.. sobs | 01:49 |
| lcuk | the closest we got is this | 01:49 |
| lcuk | https://wiki.maemo.org/Drivers_justification | 01:49 |
| * Jucato looks at his keyboard... | 01:49 | |
| lbt | chumby is ~ N800 AFAIK | 01:50 |
| lcuk | which in the discussion page has an admission from nokia that they have a driver, but nothing more has come of it | 01:50 |
| genewitch | how do i release IP with ifconfig? | 01:50 |
| Jucato | "we have the driver and we're holding it hostage! bwaahahahahah *cough* *cough* *choke*" | 01:50 |
| qwerty12_N800 | With the RX-51 coming out, it'd be a fuckin' miracle if Nokia do come through on justifying... | 01:50 |
| wazd | well, I know at least one app that will totaly blow your mind on RX-51 :) | 01:51 |
| Jucato | RX-51? | 01:52 |
| wazd | Hope Nokia will really help in implementing some clutteresque stuff | 01:52 |
| brdusr | arg ... 91% and the download stops | 01:52 |
| wazd | Jucato: that's future tablet's codename | 01:52 |
| Jucato | ah, I guessed so :) | 01:52 |
| lcuk | lbt, the chumby is cool, but its got a sane on-cpu video driver, and runs at 320*240 | 01:52 |
| lcuk | and is limited to 12fps (which isnt a problem) | 01:53 |
| johnx | As soon as the first N800 shipped without GLES drivers there was never a chance | 01:53 |
| Jucato | they're probably holding out on the ogl-es drivers for the n810 to really market the RX-51 :( | 01:53 |
| lcuk | nahhh jucato | 01:53 |
| * lbt rubs his eyes sleepily | 01:53 | |
| GeneralAntilles | Jucato, no, not in the least. | 01:53 |
| johnx | Jucato, nope. far more boring than that: They'd have to pay money to ship bad drivers in a questionable legal status | 01:53 |
| GeneralAntilles | qwerty12_N800, forget the RX-51. It's not relevant. :) | 01:54 |
| wazd | omg | 01:54 |
| lcuk | the 8x0 uses an alternative lcd driver and its a bit of a brainfunk (historical evolution from the 770 to handle 800*480) | 01:54 |
| johnx | no conspiracy, just a typical SNAFU | 01:54 |
| wazd | Chumby "box" is absolutely brilliant :) | 01:54 |
| * Jucato would still be hoping, lighting candles, and spilling goat's blood | 01:54 | |
| lcuk | can you make bacon from goats? | 01:54 |
| Jucato | nope. but I hear they make good jerky :) | 01:55 |
| genewitch | someone? please help? i can't get the n800 to release wlan0's IP so it uses the one i've statically assigned on the router | 01:55 |
| * lbt sleepwalks off to bed stroking his nut | 01:55 | |
| Jucato | ew | 01:55 |
| lcuk | gnite lbt | 01:55 |
| lbt | see y'all tomorrow | 01:55 |
| brdusr | bye lbt | 01:55 |
| Jucato | gnight lbt | 01:56 |
| * Jucato will try to partition his 2GB internal card later... | 01:56 | |
| brdusr | if the install-routine for Mer stops the download in the terminal, try the proceed to connect again? | 01:57 |
| brdusr | after a while ? | 01:57 |
| sp3000 | qwerty12_N800: no, the timidity guy has a whole two different hidden letters in his surname | 01:57 |
| sp3000 | er, letters hidden | 01:58 |
| qwerty12_N800 | sp3000, ah :) | 01:58 |
| wazd | wow, chumbe is kinda pretty nice concept | 01:59 |
| wazd | chumby* | 01:59 |
| wazd | Thats what n8*0 should be at home :) | 02:00 |
| johnx | there's a chumby-player or something I've seen for the n8x0 | 02:01 |
| johnx | on itt | 02:01 |
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| brdusr | wazd the display on the chumby is also 800x480? | 02:02 |
| johnx | 320x240 | 02:02 |
| wazd | brdusr: It's 320x240 | 02:02 |
| wazd | aw( | 02:02 |
| wazd | Why Japan is so fast :) | 02:02 |
| brdusr | ok :-) | 02:02 |
| johnx | wazd, I'm in the future :) | 02:03 |
| johnx | it's already 9AM here O_o | 02:03 |
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| wazd | johnx: cool :) | 02:03 |
| johnx | actually, time to get moving. 'later all :) | 02:03 |
| wazd | johnx: saionara xD | 02:03 |
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| brdusr | bye johnx have a nice day | 02:04 |
| Jucato | sayonara | 02:04 |
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| brdusr | sometimes my tablet hanging and i have to restart ... with diablo is it normal? | 02:06 |
| lcuk | depends on usage and apps - i only ever have to when i cocked my code up | 02:09 |
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| brdusr | most of it comes when loading applets like omweather and load applet | 02:12 |
| * Jucato has had that with reliably with one app.. "ksnip" iirc | 02:12 | |
| Jucato | or something.. forgot which.. but it's a picture taking app based on illumination (or was it illuminati) | 02:13 |
| brdusr | Oo | 02:13 |
| brdusr | ~~ | 02:13 |
| infobot | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. | 02:13 |
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| brdusr | infobot ? | 02:14 |
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| b-man | ~shag | 02:14 |
| * infobot strips and bends over.. give it to me baby ;) | 02:14 | |
| brdusr | LOL | 02:14 |
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| b-man | yuck!!! XP | 02:15 |
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| Jucato | O.o | 02:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | ~$50 | 02:15 |
| * infobot takes the cash and sucks generalantilles off | 02:15 | |
| brdusr | b-man you are a it-hero :-D | 02:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | Sick bot. ;) | 02:16 |
| b-man | lol | 02:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | Bad infobot! | 02:16 |
| qwerty12_N800 | ~hump | 02:16 |
| * infobot humps the channel | 02:16 | |
| b-man | lol | 02:16 |
| qwerty12_N800 | infobot, wipe me down | 02:17 |
| infobot | # dd if=/dev/zero of=me down | 02:17 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Hmm, not the wipe I was hoping for :) | 02:17 |
| b-man | 0_o ??? | 02:17 |
| b-man | infobot: strip | 02:17 |
| infobot | Secure password and account manager for Palm Pilots.. URL: http://www.zetetic.net/products.html#strip | 02:17 |
| b-man | ... | 02:18 |
| wazd | infobot: relax | 02:18 |
| qwerty12_N800 | give qwerty12_N800 blowjob | 02:18 |
| qwerty12_N800 | ~give qwerty12_N800 blowjob | 02:18 |
| * infobot gives blowjob to qwerty12_N800 | 02:18 | |
| qwerty12_N800 | even :/ | 02:19 |
| b-man | infobot: kill GeneralAntilles | 02:19 |
| * infobot shoots a excited anti-photon gun at GeneralAntilles | 02:19 | |
| wazd | omfg) | 02:19 |
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| b-man | infobot: attack GeneralAntilles | 02:19 |
| * infobot grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing GeneralAntilles | 02:19 | |
| b-man | lol | 02:19 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Ok, it's 12:19AM here, I shouldn't be feeling so fucked up :) | 02:19 |
| benson | infobot's a she, now. | 02:19 |
| benson | O.o | 02:19 |
| brdusr | MER dosnt start -.- i let it be ... anyone sells a gameboy? | 02:19 |
| b-man | hehe | 02:20 |
| wazd | 3:19 here) | 02:20 |
| b-man | 7:18 here :) | 02:20 |
| benson | 19:20 here :P | 02:20 |
| b-man | pm | 02:20 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Lets all CTCP TIME each other! | 02:21 |
| b-man | 21:27 in CTCP here ;( | 02:22 |
| b-man | ;) | 02:22 |
| brdusr | or at the boot sequence, have i push a special button to start another OS ??? | 02:22 |
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| sisto | brdusr: what are you trying to do? | 02:27 |
| sisto | is mer like the community version of maemo? | 02:27 |
| brdusr | try to install mer | 02:27 |
| benson | ~mer | 02:28 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, mer is http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer | 02:28 |
| GeneralAntilles | sisto, basically. | 02:28 |
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| sisto | nvm | 02:28 |
| sisto | i read it | 02:28 |
| sisto | it's based on jaunty | 02:28 |
| sisto | thx | 02:28 |
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| sisto | to whoever tried it: what is better on mer than on maemo? | 02:29 |
| benson | build environment | 02:30 |
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| brdusr | ok i will try it again tomorrow ... now i have to sleep | 02:30 |
| benson | default wallpaper | 02:30 |
| brdusr | bye all | 02:30 |
| brdusr | see you soon | 02:31 |
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| genewitch | my new battery came in | 02:32 |
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| k-factor | Hi, I am trying to run a web application in full screen mode to hide the browser... | 03:13 |
| k-factor | but every time I load a new page, it temporarily shows an address bar together with scrollbars. | 03:13 |
| k-factor | Does anyone know how to disable it? | 03:13 |
| k-factor | On Nokia N810 | 03:13 |
| benson | I don't think you can. | 03:14 |
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| benson | But maybe make a page with a frane, and load the different pages inside that. | 03:15 |
| benson | I don't know if that would suit your application, or even if it would avoid the titlebar... | 03:15 |
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| GeneralAntilles | A lot of people want to use these things in "kiosk" mode | 03:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | Makes me think somebody should support it. :P | 03:17 |
| benson | Speaking of kisosk modes... I pulled a cool xcsreensaver trick. | 03:18 |
| benson | I make xscreensaver run in runlevel 5, i.e., charging the battery while "powered off". | 03:19 |
| benson | Not helpful (and slows down the charge), but cool looking. | 03:20 |
| benson | It made me think about rigging, e.g., Canola to run, for use in a car dock; you apply power, it comes up, remove power, shut' | 03:22 |
| benson | s down. | 03:22 |
| lcuk | o_O | 03:23 |
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| GeneralAntilles | I want Maemo + Beagle for car usage | 03:27 |
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| ppires | hi there | 03:27 |
| ppires | qwerty12_N800: it seems busybox does not have ipv6 support by default | 03:28 |
| ppires | does anyone here know where can i find a suitable busybox with IPv6 support for diablo? | 03:28 |
| ppires | tried http://ipv6.willab.fi/apt/dists/diablo/user/binary-armel/busybox-ipv6/ | 03:28 |
| ppires | but it's not accepted by packet managet | 03:29 |
| ppires | manager | 03:29 |
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| k-factor | Regarding kiosk mode. Is it much work to embed browser rendering engine in the desktop application? | 03:35 |
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| ppires | nvm, manual install worked out | 03:41 |
| ppires | but in red-pill mode it didn't .. hmm | 03:41 |
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| sandman | Has anyone else been having terrific problems with their n810's screen being badly inaccurate? | 03:42 |
| sandman | I called Nokia, and they're supposed people are effing useless. | 03:43 |
| sandman | support people, rather. | 03:43 |
| sandman | Anyway, I was wondering if you guys could lend a hand; | 03:43 |
| sandman | When I tap the screen on the Nokia, it'll actually register the tap as much as 20 pixels away | 03:43 |
| Jucato | even after recalibrating the touchscreen? | 03:45 |
| benson | Calibrate it? | 03:45 |
| sandman | Yes | 03:46 |
| sandman | Even after recalibrating it | 03:46 |
| sandman | I only just got this thing 3 hours ago | 03:46 |
| benson | Bad all over, or just in regions? | 03:46 |
| * Jucato hasn't had that...got this 2 weeks ago | 03:46 | |
| benson | My N800 gradually developed nonlinearity over _months_. | 03:47 |
| sandman | This is horrible | 03:47 |
| sandman | I can't even use the scrollbars on the right | 03:47 |
| benson | So now it's wrong in places no matter how I calibrate. | 03:47 |
| sandman | It's so bad | 03:47 |
| sandman | Yeah | 03:47 |
| sandman | Mine's like that now. I wonder if they actually sent me a refurbished one | 03:47 |
| benson | But not to start with, and still not that bad. | 03:47 |
| sandman | Well, it doesn't matter. I suppose I'll just return the damn thing. | 03:47 |
| ppires | allright!! mipv6 up and running yeahhh | 03:48 |
| sandman | If Nokia's support didn't lie to my face repeatedly... | 03:48 |
| GeneralAntilles | sandman, get it repaired under warranty? | 03:49 |
| lcuk | no way, if its faulty from the start get it replaced | 03:49 |
| lcuk | no point in having a lemon from the start | 03:49 |
| sandman | generalantilles: I _just_ got the thing | 03:50 |
| GeneralAntilles | Oh | 03:50 |
| GeneralAntilles | Well, RMA it. | 03:50 |
| lcuk | you go for repairs after months of use when its unreasonable to assume it had the fault in the box | 03:50 |
| GeneralAntilles | sandman, who'd you get it from? | 03:50 |
| GeneralAntilles | Buy? | 03:50 |
| sandman | I've been reading at the forums that this is a rather repeated problem | 03:50 |
| sandman | generalantilles: Wal-Mart | 03:50 |
| GeneralAntilles | lol | 03:50 |
| sandman | For $240 | 03:50 |
| GeneralAntilles | Return it and get it from buy.com next time it goes on sale. | 03:50 |
| GeneralAntilles | $220 | 03:50 |
| lcuk | sandman, all touchscreens are susecptable to damage, go look on nintendo ds lites - they have more because the kids bash them | 03:50 |
| Jucato | yay for $450 N810's :( | 03:51 |
| sandman | I think maybe I'll just return it and not get another one. I should have known better. I bought the n800 back when it first came out then, too | 03:51 |
| ljp | we have seneral n810's and havent seen a calibration issue | 03:51 |
| FireFox | lol | 03:51 |
| sandman | And its camera was broken thoroughly | 03:51 |
| sandman | So I had to return that, too. | 03:51 |
| Jucato | ljp: senile n810's? | 03:51 |
| ljp | heh I mean several :) | 03:52 |
| Jucato | oh | 03:52 |
| Jucato | :) | 03:52 |
| ljp | the one I have migh tbe considered senile as it was one of the first out | 03:52 |
| Jucato | sandman: did you buy the n800 from walmart as well? | 03:52 |
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| sandman | Jucato: Actually, yes. | 03:53 |
| GeneralAntilles | sandman, there's a hint right there. ;) | 03:53 |
| benson | Lesson: Don't by from Walmart? | 03:53 |
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| sandman | What difference does it make? | 03:54 |
| sandman | It's all coming from Nokia | 03:54 |
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| benson | Maybe other retailers don't kick their merchandise as hard as Walmart? | 03:55 |
| Jucato | or throw them around while passing them in the stock room? | 03:55 |
| sandman | It seems it'll work, but | 03:55 |
| sandman | I really have to press on the screen | 03:55 |
| sandman | Sorta hard | 03:55 |
| sandman | Nope, nevermind | 03:56 |
| sandman | Still broken. | 03:56 |
| sandman | Also, the bitch on the phone @ Nokia told me that my n810's MAC address is not a unique identifier of my device | 03:56 |
| Jucato | the virtual memory is taken from the internal 2GB memory right? | 03:57 |
| sandman | If you tell it to | 03:57 |
| ppires | people should i drop openssh in favour of dropbear? | 03:58 |
| Jucato | hm.. ok it does... wonder if there's some extra precautions I need to take if I reformat the internal card for booting... | 03:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | sandman, what do you expect from first-level support? ;) | 03:58 |
| sandman | It was tier-2 | 03:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | Hehe, still. ;) | 03:58 |
| sandman | It's a shame. This device is so good in theory | 03:59 |
| GeneralAntilles | sandman, don't buy from WalMart | 03:59 |
| sandman | Meh. If Wal-Mart is that bad, Nokia should have fixed it. | 04:00 |
| GeneralAntilles | Most people who buy have no complaints. :) | 04:00 |
| sandman | Plus, Nokia's support people are clearly trash | 04:00 |
| sandman | Yeah, well. If it can't stand being tossed around a little bit in shipping | 04:00 |
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| sandman | Then it's not going to survive very long in my pocket | 04:00 |
| sandman | Besides, it doesn't matter | 04:00 |
| sandman | I'm just one customer | 04:00 |
| GeneralAntilles | I've beat my N800 to hell, it works fine. | 04:00 |
| sandman | Is there no solution for this screen calibration problem? Nobody knows anything about it? | 04:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | If it's a hardware issue, there isn't much to be done about it. | 04:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | Exchange it at WalMart, return it and buy somewhere else, or return it and move on. | 04:02 |
| sandman | Well, according to the forums, the problems are consistent, just say off. The idea is that it is, in fact, a problem with the calibrator. | 04:02 |
| sandman | I think I'll just go back to pen and paper, honestly. I think I'll wait until a company sells the gear necessary to fabricate IC's | 04:02 |
| sandman | And such, rather than the IC's themselves | 04:03 |
| sandman | That way if something is broken, I can just make another one. | 04:03 |
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| sandman | But that probably will never happen. | 04:03 |
| AndrewFBlack | forgot to close keyboard was cat talking to you guys? | 04:03 |
| GeneralAntilles | lol . . . | 04:03 |
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| GeneralAntilles | AndrewFBlack, not tonight. | 04:03 |
| AndrewFBlack | lol ok I'm going to shut laptop so she wont, I didn't know she had been doing it | 04:04 |
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| sandman | You know | 04:10 |
| sandman | It's really as if teh mouse acceleration is off | 04:10 |
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| sandman | in the n810 | 04:10 |
| sandman | Definately is, that's what's going on. | 04:10 |
| sandman | I have a feeling that my device was somehow used before. Is there a way to reset it? | 04:11 |
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| ds3 | is there a quick summary of what's the min. requirements to run Mer at the moment? | 04:14 |
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| GeneralAntilles | ds3, | 04:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | ~mer | 04:16 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, mer is http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer | 04:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | sandman, | 04:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | ~flashing | 04:16 |
| infobot | methinks flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 04:16 |
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| ljp | indeed, flash with the latest update | 04:18 |
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| sandman | How do I know if I have the latest OS software? | 04:22 |
| sandman | And also, is it possible to change the MAC address on my n810? | 04:22 |
| Jucato | 1. version: control panel. top entry. 2. afaik MAC's are hardware based? | 04:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | Well, the MAC is the MAC | 04:23 |
| sisto | benson: what's wrong with walmart? | 04:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | you can change it in software | 04:23 |
| sandman | The lady @ Nokia told me that she must have my MAC address | 04:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | sandman, it's on the sticker inside the back cover | 04:23 |
| sandman | I know already | 04:24 |
| Jucato | under the battery | 04:24 |
| sandman | I gave it to her | 04:24 |
| sandman | But I'm confused as to why she would need that | 04:24 |
| GeneralAntilles | sandman, because it's the number they use as a serial number | 04:24 |
| sisto | oh i read up top | 04:24 |
| Jucato | for verification. it's also required in downloading the latest OS | 04:24 |
| Jucato | I hate it when I do that (reply to a sentence half an hour ago :P) | 04:25 |
| sandman | How do I determine if I'm running the latest OS? | 04:25 |
| Jucato | [10:22] <Jucato> 1. version: control panel. top entry. | 04:25 |
| Jucato | about product | 04:25 |
| sandman | Yes, I knew that already | 04:25 |
| sisto | Jucato: wow! how did you know he was going to ask this? | 04:25 |
| Jucato | Version 5.2008.43-7 | 04:26 |
| Jucato | sisto: the question about latest OS? he already asked a while ago :) | 04:26 |
| sandman | 5.2008.43-7 is the latest possible? | 04:27 |
| Jucato | that's what I've been told | 04:27 |
| Jucato | oh. if RX-51 is the codename for the next tablet.. RX-44 is N810? | 04:27 |
| sisto | I was trying to find your message much earlier: It looks like this here: 00:23 | Jucato> 1. version: control panel. top entry. 2. afaik MAC's are hardware based? | 04:28 |
| sisto | I thought you had posted that 2 hours ago | 04:28 |
| Jucato | hehe :) | 04:28 |
| GeneralAntilles | Jucato, RX-34 is N800 and RX-48 is N810W | 04:28 |
| Jucato | ah I don't have the W | 04:28 |
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| Jucato | which would probably explain the RX-44 at the top right corner of the LCARS Modern theme :) | 04:29 |
| * Jucato was wondering about that... | 04:29 | |
| ds3 | thanks | 04:35 |
| ds3 | I am looking for different info then what's on that page.... trying to see how hard it is to get Mer running on another board | 04:38 |
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| benson | ds3: what hardware? | 04:40 |
| benson | I hear it's pretty straightforward if there's already a booting kernel and X... | 04:41 |
| ds3 | benson: Beagle board + other stuff | 04:41 |
| benson | Runs on Beagle already. | 04:42 |
| ds3 | but what's it want in terms of min. resolution | 04:42 |
| ds3 | BB with DVI screen or ? | 04:42 |
| benson | Well, 800x480 is standard, but it should do as low as 480x480 for sure, and probably less, without major changes. | 04:43 |
| benson | Not sure, I assume DVI monitor, but haven't been tracking. | 04:43 |
| ds3 | don't plan to use a DVI monitor | 04:44 |
| ds3 | oh 480x480...okay, that rules out Mer | 04:44 |
| benson | What resolution do you plan? | 04:44 |
| GeneralAntilles | Mer's issue is that the hildon-desktop layouts don't really scale well below 640x480 | 04:45 |
| GeneralAntilles | If you put together a layout for that size it'll work fine. | 04:45 |
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| benson | (480x480 comes from working in 800x480 and 480x800; less would just require a different layout.) | 04:45 |
| GeneralAntilles | Or swap out some other appropriate DE. | 04:45 |
| ds3 | let me check the LCD | 04:45 |
| benson | Like he said. | 04:45 |
| ds3 | 480x272 | 04:46 |
| ds3 | trying to find a min. work userland... the other alternative is Android :/ | 04:46 |
| ds3 | how hard is it to change layout? XML edit or? | 04:46 |
| GeneralAntilles | I haven't tried it, but it should be about that. | 04:47 |
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| ds3 | hmmm | 04:47 |
| GeneralAntilles | I bet you could enlist some help in it. | 04:48 |
| GeneralAntilles | johnx is looking into making it more 640x480 appropriate for Zaurus, anyway. | 04:48 |
| ds3 | plan is to make a case around the BB with a LCD, battery, and a touch screen...maybe even a Bluetooth interface | 04:48 |
| GeneralAntilles | Hehe | 04:50 |
| GeneralAntilles | Why not just buy a Pandora? ;) | 04:50 |
| ds3 | pandora with case is shipping TOADY? | 04:50 |
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| Jucato | hm.. openpandora... | 04:51 |
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| GeneralAntilles | ds3, well, maybe in about 8 months. :P | 04:53 |
| ds3 | I plan to be done by end of march | 04:55 |
| genewitch | ~smb | 04:55 |
| infobot | smb is probably Server Message Block or how Microsoft pulls off its networking sharing magic, or see CIFS | 04:55 |
| genewitch | ~samba | 04:55 |
| infobot | Try http://www.rohirrim.org/ipaq/ | 04:55 |
| ds3 | can I assume networking in Mer works? | 04:56 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yes | 04:56 |
| ds3 | sounds easier to deal with then Android then | 04:57 |
| genewitch | that's crashing the maemo server... "smbfs" | 04:58 |
| genewitch | ~mount | 04:58 |
| infobot | mount is a command used to mount a device to the local filesystem | 04:58 |
| genewitch | ~smbfs | 04:58 |
| infobot | it has been said that smbfs is the server message block file system. if you get errors like "smbfs: need mount version 6", you need to install smbfsx and purge smbfs. | 04:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | genewitch, infobot is shared among several channels. | 04:58 |
| genewitch | i know | 04:59 |
| GeneralAntilles | Many of these factoids are not Maemo-specific. ;) | 04:59 |
| genewitch | i can't search maemo.org for it right now | 04:59 |
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| ds3 | hmmm what's Mer using as browser at the moment? | 05:01 |
| ds3 | midori as suggested by the PNG filename? | 05:01 |
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| benson | last release, at least, didn't ship with a browser installed; not sure on the current one. | 05:02 |
| ds3 | Ohhhh | 05:02 |
| benson | Midori does work. | 05:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | May end up being Tear eventually | 05:02 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Or could be Fremantle's MicroB | 05:02 |
| ds3 | Tear? | 05:02 |
| genewitch | current mer on nokia doesn't have a browser by default, all there is is CP, appmanager, and terminal | 05:03 |
| ds3 | ah it is pretty bare | 05:03 |
| GeneralAntilles | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=260336 | 05:03 |
| ds3 | does it at least have an OSK then? | 05:03 |
| GeneralAntilles | WebKit browser for Maemo in Vala | 05:03 |
| benson | Tear is a lightweight webkit browser made for Maemo | 05:03 |
| GeneralAntilles | h-i-m | 05:03 |
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| ds3 | nice | 05:04 |
| Jucato | in vala? :O | 05:04 |
| * benson figures he should retry this week's Mer. | 05:04 | |
| * Jucato wonders if arora has been packaged... | 05:05 | |
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| genewitch | does anyone know of any media player for OS2008 that will capture a VLC streaming server? | 05:08 |
| genewitch | none of them let me add a URL to stream from | 05:08 |
| genewitch | that i've seen | 05:08 |
| benson | mplayer should work via CLI... GUI frontends, IDK. | 05:10 |
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| genewitch | kmplayer says "buffering" then doesn't do anything | 05:11 |
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| AndrewFBlack | I just got screwed big time at Circuit City | 05:21 |
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| ds3 | n | 05:24 |
| ds3 | ?? | 05:24 |
| GeneralAntilles | AndrewFBlack, surprised? :P | 05:25 |
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| AndrewFBlack | No, i just got a Hp MediaShare Connect and its used and has no remote and It can't be used without it | 05:26 |
| GeneralAntilles | Hehe | 05:26 |
| ds3 | paid with credit card? | 05:27 |
| AndrewFBlack | debit card | 05:27 |
| AndrewFBlack | HP doesn't even sale replacement remotes if I wanted to keep it used | 05:28 |
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| AndrewFBlack | I tell you who ever taped the box shut did a dang good job | 05:32 |
| GeneralAntilles | They don't sell replacements? | 05:33 |
| GeneralAntilles | Weird | 05:33 |
| timelE61i | gAn: so, builder seems to be doing one package every 5mins | 05:33 |
| timelE61i | Not very fast | 05:33 |
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| GeneralAntilles | timelE61i, indeed. | 05:34 |
| GeneralAntilles | I guess it's not set up to process a thousand tiny packages | 05:34 |
| genewitch | OH SWEET | 05:35 |
| genewitch | I GOT IT TO WORK | 05:35 |
| AndrewFBlack | GeneralAntilles, found the part on there parts website but it can't be ordered | 05:35 |
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| timelE61i | well... | 05:38 |
| timelE61i | In previous versions of the system we had these and rumor has it fremantle should | 05:38 |
| * b-man runs apt-get dist-upgrade in ubuntu jaunty on his tablet and is shocked to see 51.9mb of space will be freed - and no packages are going to be removed 0_o | 05:38 | |
| timelE61i | Creative accounting? | 05:39 |
| timelE61i | Or doc/locale-purge? | 05:39 |
| timelE61i | It's also possible the packages you have were refactored to exclude extras | 05:40 |
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| AndrewFBlack | hey b-man your ubuntu jaunty install doesn't use hildon right? | 05:53 |
| b-man | yes, it doesn't :) | 05:54 |
| AndrewFBlack | you get FN Numbers working? | 05:54 |
| b-man | i believe so, allthough i don't have a hw keyboard, i'm using re-compiled packages from mer/deblet. | 05:55 |
| AndrewFBlack | or using on screen keyboard | 05:55 |
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| b-man | xkbd ;) | 05:55 |
| AndrewFBlack | trying to get FN button to work with Mer using Lxde but no luck yet | 05:56 |
| b-man | hmm | 05:56 |
| AndrewFBlack | I'm using onBoard right now and it runs real slow | 05:56 |
| b-man | try xkbd, it's fast, light, and relyable ;) | 05:57 |
| AndrewFBlack | ok, what you using to fix the FN button? | 05:57 |
| b-man | keymaps from deblet | 05:58 |
| AndrewFBlack | you got a copy of them so i don't have to download entire deblet? | 05:58 |
| b-man | shure, hold on.. | 05:58 |
| b-man | i'll be back , i'm getting interupted atm ;) | 06:01 |
| AndrewFBlack | thats cool I'll get it from you in the morning bedtime for me | 06:01 |
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| b-man | k, c ya | 06:02 |
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| genewitch | is there a place where i can upload VLC settings for optimal streaming? | 06:13 |
| genewitch | i got the stream to work perfectly after an hour of tinkering with codecs | 06:13 |
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| timelE61i | wiki.maemo.org? | 06:14 |
| genewitch | alright :-) | 06:14 |
| genewitch | essentially, i bought the n800 to replace my PSP as a media center, and now i've completed all the stuff i wanted to get that goal done. | 06:15 |
| timelE61i | So it works? | 06:16 |
| timelE61i | Btw, what's the battery life for the psp? | 06:17 |
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| GeneralAntilles | http://wiki.maemo.org/Manual_video_encoding | 06:18 |
| timelE61i | gan: so, if things are in order, 0.1.1 might be up | 06:19 |
| timelE61i | Oh :( | 06:19 |
| timelE61i | It looks like builder rejected the meta package | 06:19 |
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| timelE61i | :( it didn't like the dependency format? | 06:21 |
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| genewitch | timelE61i: Yes, works great. And the PSP lasts 2-6 hours, depending on what you do with it. if it's using the UMD, 2 hours, if you're just streaming audio or using it as an MP3 player, it gets 5-6 | 06:27 |
| b-man | i'm back :) | 06:27 |
| b-man | AndrewFBlack: http://www.bman.maemobox.org/Xmodmap | 06:28 |
| timelE61i | b-man: you're a debian/ubuntu-ish person, no? | 06:28 |
| genewitch | it's wifi connection is fickle, though. and you can't just drop an application on there to run. also, transcoding video for the PSP is a huge pain in the neck | 06:28 |
| timelE61i | My package failed to be packaged, i'd like help understanding why | 06:28 |
| b-man | timelE6li: yes :) | 06:28 |
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| * b-man is shocked when his wifi connection jumps from 30kb/s to 1200kb/s 0_o | 06:47 | |
| genewitch | http://wiki.maemo.org/Vlc | 07:15 |
| genewitch | there, i wiki'd it. | 07:15 |
| genewitch | :-) | 07:15 |
| timelE61i | oK, qgil and i have boarded | 07:19 |
| timelE61i | See people later | 07:19 |
| GeneralAntilles | Have fun. | 07:20 |
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| * b-man sleeps, g'night everyone :) | 07:29 | |
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| genewitch | oic, palm releases ARM based PDAs | 07:56 |
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| elwekt | hi does pb's installtools still work? | 08:05 |
| elwekt | on current maemo | 08:05 |
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| elwekt | 43.7 | 08:07 |
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| Corsac | is it just me or there is now way to sync contacts on maemo? | 08:42 |
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| slonopotamus | helloo | 08:48 |
| meetpatty | anyone out there who has managed to run mer 0.7 on a 770? | 08:53 |
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| slonopotamus | meetparty, you hit some bug or just wondering? | 08:58 |
| slonopotamus | s/meetparty/meetpatty/ | 08:59 |
| infobot | slonopotamus meant: meetpatty, you hit some bug or just wondering? | 08:59 |
| meetpatty | i have hit a dproblem | 08:59 |
| slonopotamus | oh. they maybe you should ask someone from mer team. johnx & Stskeeps are the most helpful ones :) | 09:00 |
| slonopotamus | meetpatty, what kind of a problem? | 09:01 |
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| Jucato | hm.. is there a way to sort of "spoof" a site into thinking that you're not viewing the site from a mobile device? kinda sucks when your device is capable of viewing a normal site, but you're forced to use the mobile-friendly one :/ | 09:02 |
| meetpatty | haha yea, i annoyed Stskeeps last night | 09:02 |
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| benson | Jucato: depends on the site, and how it deduces you're on a mobile. | 09:06 |
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| Jari-- | looks nice :) http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/02/kde-42-and-koffice-20-beta-6-available-for-maemo.ars | 09:15 |
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| Mousey | why can't i get Comix to work? | 09:18 |
| Mousey | decoder zip not available? | 09:18 |
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| Mousey | nm, cbrpager ftw!! | 09:19 |
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| Corsac | ok, modest doesn't care about my CA | 09:37 |
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| dexterk | lol, today I found out debian xfce for n8x0 beta3 is good ,too | 09:46 |
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| Stskeeps | morning | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | dexterk: but totally undeveloped | 09:48 |
| Corsac | dexterk: 4.6b3? | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | debian beta3 was johnx, who's doing mer too now ;) | 09:48 |
| dexterk | on | 09:48 |
| dexterk | en | 09:48 |
| dexterk | all beta | 09:48 |
| Corsac | well, I'm the Xfce Debian maintainer, and I just got an n810… | 09:48 |
| dexterk | Corsac: beta3 | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | Corsac: johnx did a tar.gz with a pre-setup xfce back in last spring so | 09:49 |
| Corsac | so as soon as I buy two SD card, I'll use one to install Mer, and another to install a Debian, and start hacking on that kind of stuff :) | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | Corsac: i started building some of the Mer packages for debian-armel (armv4t), it might be interesting | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | to be able to put on armv4t devices | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | (freerunner, for instance) | 09:50 |
| Corsac | a pure debian armel is installable on armv6 like n810? | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | trac.tspre.org/projects/deblet | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | you need some tricks but else it's installable :P | 09:52 |
| Corsac | yeah but with a d-i? | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | nah | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | debootstrap and apt-get ;) | 09:53 |
| Corsac | ok | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | but i wouldn't recommend using deblet.. i have practically abandoned the project and devoting all my time to Mer | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | as it has more potential with regards to power saving etc | 09:54 |
| Corsac | hmhm, what are exactly the changes wrt a “pure” debian? | 09:54 |
| Corsac | or ubuntu, for that matter | 09:54 |
| Corsac | and shouldn't it be nice to update debian/ubuntu with your changes? | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, but some of them aren't exactly kosher | 09:55 |
| Corsac | (I know Loic Minier is interesed by Mer but doesn't have time to check on it) | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | debian & ubuntu target desktops and laptops, but not things like tablets (resource-constrained but not "just" a embeddded system) | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | so some things might need additional breaking | 09:56 |
| Corsac | yeah but it's worth at least trying, imho | 09:56 |
| Corsac | (ok, maemo mapper just crashed ><) | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | but, yes, the idea is to merge interesting things upstream | 09:57 |
| Corsac | (and I can't select a route from two POI) | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, MM is weird in latest update | 09:57 |
| Corsac | Stskeeps: basically what are the problems with merging? | 09:57 |
| Corsac | I mean, what is the bad stuff :) | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | well, for tablets, using diablo kernel: you have to fsck before udev starts.. or fsck dies with "Resource busy" | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | you need a nasty workaround for that | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | in any case, Mer is both a proof of concept, a research project and a potential approach to doing Maemo things.. - we're much closer to our upstream than Maemo is, for instance | 09:59 |
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| Stskeeps | also, the whole concept of having to require /mnt/initfs mounted upon boot :) | 10:00 |
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| Stskeeps | Mer also uses Maemo GTK, not upstream GTK | 10:00 |
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| Stskeeps | we do have some seams but we try to limit them :) | 10:00 |
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| Corsac | “Confirm download of 269748234 maps (up to about 1618489.40 MB) | 10:02 |
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| Corsac | maybe not :/ | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | iSCSI on tablet could be interesting ;) | 10:03 |
| Corsac | eheh | 10:03 |
| Corsac | how much room is it interesting to have for mer, basically? | 10:06 |
| Corsac | (as I intend to dedicate it an SD card) | 10:07 |
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| Stskeeps | 2gb card is just fine :P it depends on how crazy you go with having all the packages installed ;) | 10:08 |
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| Stskeeps | it's about 405mb uncompressed | 10:09 |
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| Stskeeps | and 180mb in flash (we didn't do docpurge yet) | 10:09 |
| RST38h | Anyone can hint at the easiest method to load png into memory? | 10:09 |
| RST38h | (without allocating temp structs, reading info, attaching callbacks, using longjmp etc) | 10:10 |
| Corsac | use libpng? | 10:10 |
| RST38h | Corsac: see above | 10:10 |
| Corsac | (or did i misunderstood?) | 10:10 |
| RST38h | without all this crap | 10:10 |
| Corsac | or use gtk? | 10:10 |
| Corsac | which will wrap calls to libpng, I guess | 10:11 |
| RST38h | into memory, not a widget | 10:11 |
| Corsac | oh | 10:11 |
| Corsac | then just open() and read() it? | 10:11 |
| Corsac | if you just need the raw data? | 10:11 |
| benson[away] | png2pnm | 10:11 |
| RST38h | Ok, no easy way? | 10:11 |
| monkeyiq | RST38h; maybe imlib2 | 10:11 |
| monkeyiq | RST38h; if you just want RGBA32 | 10:11 |
| RST38h | monkey: thanks, checking | 10:11 |
| RST38h | ,monkey: yea, basically | 10:12 |
| Corsac | if you can force the input format no to have weird compression stuff it may be easier | 10:12 |
| monkeyiq | RST38h; imlib_image_get_data() is what you want, once you load the image of course. | 10:13 |
| Corsac | I mean, if you can assume one won't feed you weird stuff, and you can drop them immediately | 10:13 |
| RST38h | Imlib2 is not on the NIT by default though? | 10:13 |
| monkeyiq | RST38h; I was just looking at that part... unfortunately its not :() | 10:13 |
| * RST38h is screwed then | 10:13 | |
| RST38h | Will have to write a wrapper around libpng | 10:14 |
| monkeyiq | you could just statically link to it during build | 10:14 |
| monkeyiq | or jump the firey hoops of libpng | 10:14 |
| Corsac | erf, 2GB microSD is like 4.4€ | 10:15 |
| RST38h | can't statically link as it will violate LGPL | 10:15 |
| Corsac | (generic one) | 10:15 |
| monkeyiq | RST38h; I feel for you then, having used the setjmp API of libpng :/ | 10:16 |
| * RST38h can't believe libpng authors could screw up the API this much | 10:17 | |
| monkeyiq | RST38h; its sort of like the libflac, having a nice get_tags() call, but no way to update tags without reading chunks and other nasties | 10:17 |
| monkeyiq | except libpng has no void* getBytesRGBA32( const char* filename ); | 10:18 |
| RST38h | all they had to do was implement a png_read(file,,imagebuf,&w,&h)... | 10:18 |
| monkeyiq | perhaps you're chance at fame and fortune^W fame by sending a patch in? | 10:19 |
| monkeyiq | and then waiting 12-18 months for it to hit the desktop/NIT | 10:19 |
| RST38h | nah, will wrap and use my own wrapper | 10:19 |
| RST38h | no desire to argue with another bunch of deadenders about shortcomings in their api | 10:20 |
| monkeyiq | that's my policy ;) | 10:20 |
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| Corsac | gdbm fatal: write error | 10:28 |
| Corsac | mm: I hate you | 10:28 |
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| Corsac | hhmh. | 10:32 |
| Corsac | the device is loop-rebooting >< | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | hate when that happens | 10:33 |
| Corsac | what should I do? | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | for future reference: get fanoush's bootmenu or the bootmenu from mer, and add in usb networking telnetd :P is a saver | 10:33 |
| Corsac | is there some kind of safe mode, something like that? | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | nop. oone of the things we try to solve for mer :P | 10:34 |
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| Corsac | only solution would be to reflash the stuff? :/ | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | correct - and grab the bootmenu.install right after | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | it really saves your ass once in a while :P | 10:35 |
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| Corsac | ok maybe I should go and buy an SD card *before* going to fosdem | 10:37 |
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| Corsac | the worst is having to redo the GPS fix | 10:45 |
| * Mousey cries | 10:47 | |
| Corsac | hmh, I think I managed to start it with init=/bin/sh | 10:48 |
| Corsac | but that's just useless | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | Corsac: bootmenu works without SD card, btw | 10:48 |
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| Corsac | yeah but I want to put Mer on an SD card | 10:48 |
| Corsac | and if I take the time to reflash and reconfigure it, maybe I should take the time to install mer too | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | meeting up with the rest of the maemo peeps on fosdem? | 10:49 |
| Corsac | more with debian/xfce guys | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | k | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.maemo.org/FOSDEM_2009 <- | 10:49 |
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| Corsac | is the mer install a flashable image? | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | i have one in store but APT fucks up on jffs2 | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | so it's kinda useless | 10:51 |
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| Corsac | hmh ok | 10:53 |
| Corsac | problem with me going to buy an SD card is that I'll buy a new HD for my thinkpad too | 10:53 |
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| Corsac | duh | 10:56 |
| Corsac | it stopped rebooting | 10:56 |
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| Corsac | Stskeeps: where is the bootmenu.install you talked about? | 10:57 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 11:00 |
| Corsac | /dev/mtdblock4 255488 252840 2648 99% / | 11:00 |
| Corsac | I guess it's related | 11:00 |
| Corsac | pff, why is /home not on the memory card | 11:02 |
| Stskeeps | it is in fremantle :P | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | at least , /home/user/MyDocs | 11:04 |
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| Stskeeps | extras repository, and http://packages.tspre.org/pool/user/b/bootmenu/bootmenu_1.5-1_armel.deb | 11:04 |
| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:06 |
| Corsac | hmhm, I have extra repository and no bootmenu | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | ah, i meant, you need extras repo enabled, and then grab that deb | 11:06 |
| Corsac | oh, I'll just setup it | 11:06 |
| Corsac | ok | 11:06 |
| Corsac | adding the deblet repository doesn't look like a good idea? | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | correct, and you dont have to :P | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | just add extras repository, and grab that deb through browser or wget :P | 11:07 |
| Corsac | -sh: wget: not found | 11:07 |
| Corsac | pfff | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | it needs 'rootsh' installed | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | and deblet repository is fine, just stick with the 'installer' distribution codename ;) | 11:07 |
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| * Stskeeps listens to the mer builder | 11:18 | |
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| Stskeeps | morning lbt | 11:22 |
| lbt | morning :) | 11:22 |
| Corsac | Stskeeps: will a 16Go microSD HC work with n810? | 11:23 |
| lbt | we're snowed in | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | Corsac: think so | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | i don't own a n810 though | 11:23 |
| X-Fade | Morning | 11:29 |
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| Corsac | hmhm, I wonder if it's possible to generate a maemo-mapper db from outside the tablet | 11:32 |
| Stskeeps | i think i did once really | 11:33 |
| Corsac | it takes ages on the device | 11:34 |
| Stskeeps | check ITT, there's probably some guides | 11:35 |
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| Corsac | another solution would be to use scratchbox on the laptop, but I don't really have time to do that atm :/ | 11:35 |
| radic | Stskeeps: can I use cups on my N800? | 11:36 |
| Stskeeps | radic: er, think it's in scratchbox-devel | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | Corsac: technically you can do it in Mer VMDK probably | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | .. but dont go there, maemo-select-location is messed up | 11:37 |
| radic | Stskeeps: but in the software that I use is no printing-support | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | radic: if they exporrt to pdf that's usable :P | 11:38 |
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| radic | hmm | 11:38 |
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| Stskeeps | morning qwerty12 | 11:41 |
| qwerty12 | hi Stskeeps :) | 11:42 |
| radic | hi qwerty12 | 11:42 |
| qwerty12 | hey radic :) | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: snowed in? ;) | 11:42 |
| qwerty12 | No, feeling really shitty :( | 11:43 |
| Stskeeps | aw :( | 11:43 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm working on the 3rd party close sourced package stuff and hoping by god i didn't mess it up totally in the 0.7 thread | 11:44 |
| qwerty12 | I think you handled it fine and qgil is doing a good job by offering this opportunity. I just think that some iTT members are overreacting. | 11:45 |
| Corsac | Stskeeps: anyway I don't really have time for that | 11:46 |
| Stskeeps | wtf @ eff-content-fonts.. only thing depending on it is, maemo-blocks | 11:47 |
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| Corsac | Stskeeps: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Onion/Mapper#Using_CLI_osm2db | 11:50 |
| Stskeeps | k | 11:53 |
| Corsac | (it doesn't really build though) | 11:54 |
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| timelE61i | We landed... | 12:01 |
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| timelE61i | Our first plane had a problem w/ a window | 12:02 |
| Corsac | ** (process:23965): WARNING **: SQL ERROR 1:(create virtual table way_2d USING rtree ( widint primary key, min_lat real, max_lat real, min_lon real, max_lon real);) no such module: rtree | 12:02 |
| Corsac | damn >< | 12:02 |
| timelE61i | So we were moved to a new plane | 12:02 |
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| Stskeeps | timelE61i: good that you made it safely :) | 12:05 |
| Stskeeps | btw, i=timeless@80-186-63-54.elisa-mobile.fi <- looks expensive :P | 12:06 |
| Stskeeps | if you're in .be now :P | 12:06 |
| X-Fade | Heh, I've had them work on the engine for 2 hours while we were in the plane looking at the opened engine leaking fluids :) | 12:07 |
| Stskeeps | was on a ryanair going back from dublin.. and the amount of passengers didn't match the amount boarded | 12:08 |
| Stskeeps | that was 45 minutes delay :P | 12:08 |
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| X-Fade | Heh. Yeah, that sucks. | 12:09 |
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| Corsac | ok, it works \o/ | 12:11 |
| timelE61i | company perk global roaming | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 12:12 |
| qwerty12 | lol | 12:12 |
| Jaffa | genewitch: ping | 12:17 |
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| lcuk | timelE61i, you might have global roaming, but needing to take a 45foot antenna with you everywhere you go is a bit of a crimp | 12:24 |
| Stskeeps | anyone active with a 770 on OS2007HE or likes? | 12:26 |
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| Stskeeps | Jaffa: ping | 12:30 |
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| Stskeeps | Jaffa: http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Stskeeps/Sandbox/Nokia_Wishlist <- could you browse through this and maybe edit-fy this to make it more suitable for consumption? | 12:31 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: will do shortly | 12:32 |
| florian | good morning | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | Jaffa: thanks | 12:32 |
| qwerty12 | morning florian | 12:32 |
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| timelE61i | Lcuk: you mean my two six jack power strips? :) | 12:32 |
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| Corsac | ok and the “mapper” (not “maemo mapper”) address search doesn't work at all | 12:44 |
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| meetpatty | anyone out there who has managed to run mer 0.7 on a 770? | 12:53 |
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| rzr | meetpatty: i planned to, got trouble | 13:02 |
| rzr | meetpatty: but the wifi isnt ready i think | 13:02 |
| Jaffa | meetpatty: r2d2rogers has, I believe | 13:02 |
| Stskeeps | 'lo meetpatty | 13:03 |
| meetpatty | hey | 13:03 |
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| * Stskeeps yawns | 13:05 | |
| kender | did any of you made to work the video chat between Maemo and a Linux computer? Gizmo 4.0 isn't available for linux and I tried using Empathy in order to use the "official" video support, but I didn't get very lucky | 13:06 |
| kender | audio works, but video isn't sent for some reason | 13:06 |
| Stskeeps | i think there is a guide on iTT somewhere | 13:06 |
| kender | (using Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex) | 13:07 |
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| kender | Stskeeps, I've seen a few posts about it, there is where I got the idea of Empathy, some guy even suggested to use SIP accounts but it's quite rare to find one that let's you use video | 13:08 |
| kender | apart from finding a SIP client in Linux with video support | 13:08 |
| kender | (I think he suggested X-Lite in windows) | 13:08 |
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| Jaffa | Stskeeps: http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Stskeeps/Sandbox/Nokia_Wishlist | 13:50 |
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| Stskeeps | Jaffa: i kinda intentionally didn't put flash on due to the discussions on it | 13:51 |
| Stskeeps | their agreement with flash is very specific so | 13:51 |
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| Jaffa | Stskeeps: "citation needed" | 13:52 |
| Jaffa | It's silly not to ask and be told definitively. | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | k | 13:53 |
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| Jaffa | Why's it different to any other 3rd party stuff? We're not lawyers, and haven't seen the licences anyway. | 13:53 |
| timelE61i | so, anyone here understand the builder? | 13:53 |
| timelE61i | Jaffa: i haven't seen the licenses either | 13:53 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: I also inverted the colours so that red was more important | 13:53 |
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| Stskeeps | Jaffa: citation needed: | 13:54 |
| Stskeeps | qgil: For instance, Flash belongs to Adobe and Skype belongs to Skype Inc. The agreements signed with these companies are framed for official releases going through a quite demanding quality process. If Nokia would let the Mer team (or whoever) grab those binaries for other purposes then those agreements would be in trouble, affecting e.g. the negotiations for Fremantle. | 13:54 |
| Stskeeps | EDIT: By the way, forget about an official endorsement on 3rd party applications. 3rd party platform components essential to get the hardware running are a different and more feasible story. | 13:54 |
| Stskeeps | that's why :P | 13:54 |
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| Stskeeps | http://internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=261619&postcount=26 | 13:55 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: wasn't that in response to a "just grab it out of the firmware" suggestion by someone (talking out of their arse) | 13:55 |
| Jaffa | ? | 13:55 |
| Stskeeps | nop | 13:55 |
| Jaffa | Bollocks | 13:55 |
| Jaffa | (or some other suitable interjection indicating dismay) | 13:56 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: the paragraph before the bit you quote is also quite important. | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 13:56 |
| Jaffa | And the "If Nokia would let" is key, rather than "If Nokia and Adobe decide to let" | 13:56 |
| Jaffa | So, I still think it's worth asking. | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | i think it should be a 3) and a green instead personally | 13:57 |
| Jaffa | i.e. the point (I think) he is making is that Nokia can't decide to let anyone do anything with Flash & Skype, without asking their owners. | 13:57 |
| Jaffa | Is Flash "advanced" usage of an internet tablet? | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | to not get them to go into a raving frenzy :P | 13:57 |
| X-Fade | timelE61i: Still problems? | 13:57 |
| Jaffa | It may not be P2 - personally, I think end-users will think it might be ;-) | 13:58 |
| * Jaffa also wasn't sure whether handwriting recognition is advanced, or what the priority should be. | 13:58 | |
| Jaffa | Your doc - edit as you like ;-) | 13:58 |
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| Stskeeps | if you'd like to as a council member to take on this task you're welcome, - my temper isn't so good with this kind of stuff :) IMHO, when the mail is sent, Red should be indicated as "Important for the success of community firmware images, from technical point of view" "Grey/Green as end-user success of community firmware images - end-users have shown interest in this being possible and it would be good to have a final yes or no if it would be" | 14:01 |
| roope | Many licensing deals are per-device-installed/sold, which makes them of course tricky/impossible to just give away. | 14:01 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, obviously | 14:02 |
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| Stskeeps | and our statement isn't giving away, should -only- go to tablet devices | 14:02 |
| X-Fade | And also certification is required. If Mer does something wrong which causes Flash to suck, it reflects bad on Adobe. | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | i (personally) don't care about anything other than HW, :P | 14:03 |
| X-Fade | Very delicate ;) | 14:03 |
| roope | No harm in asking, of course, but some of the deals might be of such a nature that Nokia doesn't even want to disclose the terms. | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | *nod* | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | i'm happy enough with a Yes/No on he more delicate stuff :P | 14:03 |
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| andre___ | bye & see you at fosdem | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | hf | 14:05 |
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| x29a | meh, my n810 got powered out during the night | 14:41 |
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| timelE61i | x-fade. I just need to know if i need to repush | 14:43 |
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| gladiac | Hi dneary | 14:46 |
| X-Fade | timelE61i: I missed the problem. What broke? | 14:46 |
| timelE61i | the meta package | 14:46 |
| timelE61i | Which is mostly a stupid thing | 14:47 |
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| timelE61i | Since i'd rather avoid making dozens of updates to the meta package | 14:47 |
| wazd | lo all | 14:48 |
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| X-Fade | timelE61i: Do you want me to remove it? | 14:50 |
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| dneary | hi gladiac | 14:58 |
| dneary | gladiac: Still hanging around qutecom? | 14:58 |
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| gladiac | dneary: yep, and sometimes fixing bugs | 14:58 |
| timelE61i | x-fade: can you ask the builder to try again for the meta @ 0.1.1 | 14:59 |
| dneary | gladiac: Happy with how things have gone with MBDSys? | 14:59 |
| timelE61i | bUt really, can we fix application manager? :) | 14:59 |
| X-Fade | No, I can't. I need to remove it from the repo and then copy the source package to the queue again. | 15:00 |
| dneary | gladiac: I've been a bit disappointedthat they haven't managed to get a 2.2 out yet, but it seems like they really want a quality product | 15:00 |
| timelE61i | ok, can you do that? :) | 15:01 |
| X-Fade | timelE61i: Yep :) | 15:01 |
| timelE61i | thanks | 15:01 |
| timelE61i | Wait | 15:01 |
| X-Fade | language-support-translations-enus1 right? | 15:01 |
| timelE61i | How is it in the repo? | 15:01 |
| timelE61i | Yeah, but 0.1.1, not 0.1 | 15:01 |
| gladiac | dneary: they work on the next version of qutecom behind closed doors | 15:01 |
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| gladiac | but they still fix bugs in qutecom 2.2 | 15:02 |
| gladiac | qutecom 2.2 is more or less stable now, it still has serveral bugs | 15:02 |
| X-Fade | timelE61i: Only 0.1 is in the repo, sorry. | 15:02 |
| dneary | gladiac: They've mostly been fixing bugs for clients that are getting customised QuteCom versions - like the A1 Austrian guys | 15:03 |
| gladiac | dneary: I don't need a sip softphone atm so I focus on other things, like my file synchronizer | 15:03 |
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| gladiac | A1 fixed a lot of bugs | 15:03 |
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| X-Fade | timelE61i: 0.1.1 failed because of depencency parse error? | 15:04 |
| X-Fade | timelE61i: https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/language-support-translations-enus1_0.1.1/i386.build.log.FAILED.txt | 15:04 |
| timelE61i | Yeah, what in the world does that mean? | 15:05 |
| timelE61i | Afaiu what i wrote was legal | 15:05 |
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| X-Fade | timelE61i: Apparently not ;) | 15:10 |
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| user_ | hi | 15:11 |
| user_ | anyone alive? | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | nah | 15:13 |
| timelE61i | can you figure out why/how to fix it? | 15:13 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Your package actually builds fine in a Mer chroot... | 15:14 |
| user_ | has anyone found their n810 screens to be inaccurate? | 15:15 |
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| X-Fade | user_: Did you re-calibrate it? | 15:15 |
| timelE61i | qwerty: 0.1.1? | 15:15 |
| qwerty12_N800 | timelE61i, yep | 15:15 |
| timelE61i | X-fade: m guess is it's a timing issue, and the packages weren't all present | 15:15 |
| user_ | x-fade: Yes | 15:15 |
| X-Fade | timelE61i: I'll resubmit. | 15:16 |
| timelE61i | thanks | 15:16 |
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| StsN801 | qwerty12_N800, bash-completion, next mer release, good/bad idea? | 15:16 |
| user_ | x-fade: several times, in fact. | 15:16 |
| X-Fade | user_: Very inacurate or just a little? | 15:16 |
| StsN801 | user_, screen protector in use? | 15:16 |
| user_ | pretty darn inaccurate | 15:17 |
| user_ | no | 15:17 |
| user_ | no screen protector | 15:17 |
| qwerty12_N800 | StsN801, uber wicked but the tablet does slow down a when spawning bash from xterm & ssh in Maemo | 15:17 |
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| StsN801 | true | 15:17 |
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| user_ | it seems particularly bad at the right of the screen | 15:18 |
| X-Fade | user_: how much is pretty darn? In mm? | 15:18 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps, But the usefulness of it cannot be denied, I always make sure to install it in Maemo. But a cut down version may be nice. | 15:18 |
| user_ | using the scrollbars is very difficult | 15:18 |
| StsN801 | qwerty12_N800, k | 15:18 |
| user_ | probably a good 20 pixels off | 15:19 |
| user_ | but sometimes it's to the right and other times it's to the left | 15:19 |
| StsN801 | user_, i can recommend scr protector from day 1.. scratches are nasty | 15:19 |
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| user_ | isn't the screen made of glass? | 15:21 |
| user_ | and this is day 14 or so | 15:21 |
| X-Fade | user_: Touchscreen is a layer on top of the screen. | 15:22 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Is that a serious question? | 15:22 |
| user_ | worked fine until i calibrated it for the first time | 15:22 |
| X-Fade | user_: Try to calibrate that section deliberately to the left of the cross? | 15:22 |
| StsN801 | user_, it will revert calibration with a reflash | 15:24 |
| * RST38h moos | 15:25 | |
| qwerty12_N800 | hi RST38h | 15:25 |
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| sandman | How to reflash my nokia n810? | 15:27 |
| qwerty12_N800 | ~flashing | 15:27 |
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| infobot | methinks flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 15:27 |
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| sandman | I don't see anything ont hat page for windows | 15:29 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | then you aren't looking carefully enough. | 15:30 |
| lbt | sandman: excellent - you have an opportunity to help the community by adding it :) | 15:30 |
| GAN800 | lbt, it's there. | 15:30 |
| X-Fade | timelE61i: Build failed again. | 15:30 |
| X-Fade | GAN800: Hey you're alive ;) | 15:30 |
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| X-Fade | GAN800: Feeling better? | 15:30 |
| lbt | oh come on - it was buried in the table of contents right at the top! | 15:30 |
| GAN800 | X-Fade, doesn't Adobe manage that well enough by themselves? ;) | 15:31 |
| GAN800 | X-Fade, it was short lived, but I'm still a bit puny. | 15:31 |
| GAN800 | lbt, maybe <blink> would help? ;) | 15:31 |
| lbt | I'm on it | 15:32 |
| lbt | sorry sandman - did you find what you need? | 15:32 |
| sandman | No | 15:32 |
| sandman | But I have to go for a bit here anyway | 15:32 |
| lbt | section 4 | 15:32 |
| timelE61i | qwerty: can you figure out why builder doesn't like me? | 15:32 |
| lbt | http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#Flashing_on_Windows | 15:33 |
| GAN800 | X-Fade, I had a chat with tekojo about 'webmaster' emails for maemo.org and he suggested a 'spring cleaning'-themed sprint sometime in the next few months. | 15:33 |
| qwerty12_N800 | timelE61i, no idea, it really all does look correct :). If I can figure it out, I'll let you know | 15:33 |
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| X-Fade | GAN800: Sure// | 15:34 |
| GAN800 | X-Fade, April seems like it might be good. | 15:35 |
| GAN800 | is this accurate? http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Karma&curid=1238&diff=10717&oldid=10668&rcid=10720 | 15:37 |
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| X-Fade | GAN800: I thought it was one. | 15:38 |
| GAN800 | Clones! | 15:38 |
| GAN800 | X-Fade, as did I. | 15:38 |
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| X-Fade | GAN800: No, he is right. | 15:39 |
| GAN800 | Oh really? Huh | 15:39 |
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| X-Fade | 'karma_discussion_modifier' => 2, | 15:39 |
| GAN800 | Probably should be one. | 15:39 |
| X-Fade | Yeah. | 15:39 |
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| X-Fade | GAN800: It probably wasn't noticed because mail importing is a bit broken ;) | 15:41 |
| GAN800 | Hehe | 15:42 |
| GAN800 | The karma's gonna end up inversed just before Nokia pulls to hand out device codes. ;) | 15:42 |
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| lcuk | i think karma should be randomized daily | 15:47 |
| lcuk | we have all these methods for INCREASING karma, but non for decreasing it really | 15:48 |
| X-Fade | lcuk: Well, we had one.. | 15:48 |
| X-Fade | lcuk: But that one wasn't received very well. | 15:48 |
| lcuk | thats cos ppl didnt realise it was linked to anything, i mean something more opaque and obvious | 15:49 |
| lcuk | like a swear jar, something the user himself would have to fall into | 15:49 |
| lcuk | oh shit | 15:49 |
| lcuk | karmabot: lcuk, you just lost 1 karma point | 15:49 |
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| X-Fade | Bacon++ ? | 15:50 |
| * qwerty12_N800 would probably be down to zero if that was implemented... | 15:50 | |
| lcuk | thats just positiva karma allthe way | 15:50 |
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| lcuk | lol qwerty12_N800 | 15:50 |
| lcuk | if the tablet detects you press too hard with stylus ("BAD TOUCH! BAD TOUCH!") then it should cry out and cancel all karma for the week | 15:51 |
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| lcuk | :D i just realised , peoplecould be placed in a sinbin!!! that would work better than negating karma, its just whatever they do during a short interval (1/3/7 days etc) will not be accounted | 15:52 |
| lcuk | and you could have the inverse with a hot zone where it doubles your karma if you are on a run :D | 15:53 |
| lcuk | cow orker is sleeping, how would i best get back at him? | 15:53 |
| * Stskeeps is pleased no broken compiles has happened with mer-on-top-of-armv4t so far | 15:53 | |
| lcuk | should i call the boss into the office? | 15:53 |
| lcuk | via email | 15:53 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Load up goatse on his comp | 15:54 |
| Stskeeps | lcuk: drawing with marker on his face if he's too asleep | 15:54 |
| lcuk | nahhh he would wake up if i get up and make noise, that sorta startled rabbit in headlights look | 15:54 |
| lcuk | i like the idea of goatse | 15:54 |
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| X-Fade | lcuk: Get some empty beer cans and place them next to him ;) | 15:54 |
| lcuk | good idea, where would i put his vodka bottle when i move it to put the cans there? | 15:55 |
| lcuk | ill rig up the gas thing on his chair so i can scare the shat out of him (from a distance) next time he does it | 15:56 |
| X-Fade | lcuk: Or put his hand in a bowl of water ;) | 15:57 |
| lcuk | you have been in this situation before | 15:58 |
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| Stskeeps | of course :P | 15:58 |
| lcuk | s/you/x-fade, you/ | 15:58 |
| infobot | lcuk meant: x-fade, you have been in this situation before | 15:58 |
| lcuk | :P | 15:58 |
| lcuk | :P | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | lcuk: so, what gadgets do you have at home? | 15:58 |
| lcuk | ive got kids not gadgets :) im not really a faffer... :) | 15:59 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 15:59 |
| lcuk | apart from helicopter, rc cars laptops with wacom touchscreens embedded behind, my normal pooter, a couple of laptops , a shitty phone, oh and a miracle install of windows xp that can ONLY run sims 2 and play movies :) you try anything else with it and it blows serious chunks. though its the fastest machine in the house | 16:01 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 16:01 |
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| lcuk | but no, im not really gadget oriented, i dont tend to get stuff cos well i have to spend all money we do get on family | 16:02 |
| lcuk | theres a load of stuff i would like, but is outside my budget so i dont get hyped about | 16:02 |
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| lcuk | Stskeeps, what junk have you got lying around (oh, i do have an old loox pda, but it might be dead now and i think its a really old one) | 16:05 |
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| Stskeeps | mm. office: htc advantage, beagleboard (2), pocket loox, n800 | 16:07 |
| Stskeeps | home: ipaq 3630, n800 | 16:08 |
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| lcuk | Stskeeps, since you have a spare beagle, put a working mer on it and lemme "test" it :D | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | come by .dk for a beer and some bacon, sure P | 16:21 |
| lcuk | i was sorely tempted to drive through this weekend but its impractical :) i was pondering visiting fosdem for a beer | 16:22 |
| * lcuk has family things and unfinished code to work on | 16:22 | |
| * lcuk wants to do a europe roadtrip soon | 16:23 | |
| lcuk | hmmm actually you arent where i thought you were | 16:23 |
| lcuk | <<< geog fail | 16:24 |
| Stskeeps | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=brabrand,+denmark&sll=56.158135,10.212002&sspn=0.193492,0.617981&g=%C3%85rhus,+Denmark&ie=UTF8&ll=57.136239,10.019531&spn=49.856377,158.203125&t=h&z=3&iwloc=addr | 16:24 |
| lcuk | i have had you buttonholed near amsterdam for months now | 16:26 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 16:26 |
| Stskeeps | danish, not dutch | 16:26 |
| lcuk | yesh, realising now :) | 16:26 |
| Stskeeps | if i was near amsterdam i would have gone to fosdem :P | 16:26 |
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| lcuk | bb much later anyway (unless i sneak back on) | 16:28 |
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| r2d2rogers | Good monring | 16:30 |
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| Stskeeps | morning r2d2rogers | 16:31 |
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| * Stskeeps is building armv4t mer on builder | 16:31 | |
| Stskeeps | so far there's probably about 2 days grinding in queue on the qemu builder | 16:32 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: what armv4t device are you targetting? | 16:32 |
| Stskeeps | Jaffa: debian-armel | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | so far it builds fine | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | Jaffa: but if we get equal stuff we can put hildon on top of lets say, freerunner | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | -> maemophone ;) | 16:33 |
| Jaffa | :) | 16:34 |
| r2d2rogers | I haven't had any luck with wireless working | 16:34 |
| r2d2rogers | it can detect AP's, but will not connect | 16:34 |
| r2d2rogers | what log should I be looking in to see what it's doing? /var/log/syslog ? | 16:35 |
| r2d2rogers | (wigh ksyslog installed | 16:35 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: Do you know if the SA-110 (armv4) does armv4t? | 16:35 |
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| Jaffa | Actually, ignore me - doesn't matter | 16:36 |
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| Stskeeps | Jaffa: i was actually wondering it myself the other day | 16:39 |
| AFB|Away | 1 hour and a half and I get to go get pissed off at Manager of Circuit City | 16:40 |
| Stskeeps | aren't they getting liquidated atm or how was it? | 16:40 |
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| Stskeeps | Jaffa: i think it's debian-arm | 16:41 |
| Andrewfblack | last night I got a Hp MediaSmart Connect when I got home it had been used and is missing remote, which I can't order | 16:41 |
| Andrewfblack | HP Costomer Support told me I get what I pay for | 16:41 |
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| Stskeeps | Jaffa: but yeah, i did ponder hildon on my ipaq 3630 for a bit :P | 16:43 |
| Jaffa | RAM's probably the killer | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 16:43 |
| Jaffa | 32MB on a Psion netBook - probably similar on the ipaq at a guess | 16:44 |
| Stskeeps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helix_(project) <- btw | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | as far as i can read it is not 3rd-party-closed | 16:46 |
| Jaffa | No, Helix itself is open - has been for years. The problem is it doesn't ship with any codecs at all | 16:47 |
| Jaffa | It's like the bottom half of MAFW | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 16:47 |
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| sp3000 | timelE61i / qwerty12_N800 / X-Fade: I think wrapped depends are uncommon, does 0.1.1 have those? I think it might | 16:51 |
| timelE61i | iT does | 16:51 |
| timelE61i | Is builder just stupid? | 16:51 |
| timelE61i | wait | 16:51 |
| X-Fade | It uses standard tools ;) | 16:52 |
| timelE61i | Didn't 0.1 have wrapped depends too? | 16:52 |
| sp3000 | iirc the \n's happened around the (>=)s | 16:52 |
| timelE61i | 0.1 had wrapped, but no parens | 16:52 |
| timelE61i | 0.1.1 has wrappings and parens, not sure about the placement | 16:53 |
| timelE61i | all of my devices are on power strikes | 16:53 |
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| Stskeeps | Jaffa: btw, was the accompanying email to the list good enough? i kept it on the list, so | 16:57 |
| Stskeeps | trying to be a bit diplomatic with the topic so :P | 16:57 |
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| dexterk_ | anyone has a .item for debian beta on n800 , bootmenu.d ...? | 16:59 |
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| Stskeeps | it should run with a standard item, just remove the _LINUXRC | 16:59 |
| dexterk_ | so stranger to grub... | 17:00 |
| dexterk_ | no kernel image path? | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | correct, it uses kernel in flash | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | i wish we could indicate a kernel image though :) | 17:01 |
| dexterk_ | yead | 17:01 |
| dexterk_ | yeah | 17:01 |
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| Jaffa | Stskeeps: looked good | 17:03 |
| Stskeeps | k | 17:03 |
| Stskeeps | apologies for all the questions if things are OK and stuff, just have a rough time determining if i am (counter-?)productive :) | 17:03 |
| * Stskeeps continues deciphering BME | 17:09 | |
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| sp3000 | X-Fade: how recent standard tools? | 17:25 |
| Stskeeps | heh, if it's scratchbox.. ancient | 17:25 |
| dexterk_ | en, I really can feel that "the input is painful" on debian beta with xfce,But it's cool anyway, lol | 17:26 |
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| X-Fade | sp3000: Official sdk? | 17:27 |
| qwerty12 | Think sp3000 hit it right on the nail. Changed the control file to http://pastebin.com/d70a9526b and it built fine under DIABLO_ARMEL. | 17:27 |
| sp3000 | well not quite on the head but somewhere in the ballpark apparently | 17:29 |
| qwerty12 | :) | 17:29 |
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| wazd | I have very good news :) | 17:39 |
| wazd | Foreca oficialy agreed to support OMW :) | 17:39 |
| qwerty12 | Foreca approved your request? :) | 17:39 |
| qwerty12 | Yep :) | 17:39 |
| wazd | qwerty12: do you work for Foreca?) | 17:40 |
| qwerty12 | wazd, nope, I just had the feeling that you were gonna say that :D | 17:40 |
| wazd | qwerty12: demon! | 17:40 |
| wazd | :P | 17:40 |
| qwerty12 | My source is the infobot :P | 17:40 |
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| RST38h | wazd: Wow, unusual | 17:45 |
| lcuk | wazd, well done on the first step :) its easy to get an in principle agreement but now you have to carry it through and code it up and do stuff to maintain it and make it work | 17:47 |
| Andrewfblack | is there a Arm version of Opera that will run on Ubuntu Jaunty? | 17:48 |
| Jaffa | Andrewfblack: Not one easily available | 17:51 |
| wazd | RST38h: yep, I was actually surprised too :) | 17:51 |
| Jaffa | Andrewfblack: You *might* be able to hack and extract something from a chinook image, but... | 17:52 |
| wazd | lcuk: in fact it's not so easy to get an agreement :) | 17:52 |
| Jaffa | s/chinook/bora ? | 17:52 |
| Andrewfblack | Jaffa, ok | 17:52 |
| wazd | lcuk: We only got 3, one of them was a redirection to other service so we have to ask again | 17:53 |
| qwerty12 | Bundyo did it once but had to remove the deb :) | 17:53 |
| Andrewfblack | wow I can see if I'm going to be playing with getting everything setup on Mer i need 2 installs lol | 17:54 |
| lcuk | wazd, fair enough - we have attempted similar tie ins in dayjob here and find it is generally easy to get people to be enthusiastic about data sharing as long as its rub my back etc. i hope you get the others :) | 17:54 |
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| lbt | FWIW .... QFingerScrollArea : http://pastebin.com/d1887c707 | 18:05 |
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| fred23 | Hi all.... I'd like to debug part of maemo-gtk (the gtk_invisible_new() function) but I'd like to do it directly on the N810 device... Is there anyone that could give me some guidelines ? | 18:19 |
| fred23 | like... which dev packages should I install ? | 18:19 |
| fred23 | 'cause I've been trying to install libgtk2.0-dev and libgtk..-2.4-dev on my device from the "Maemo Extras" repo, and I get errors... | 18:20 |
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| fred23 | s/libgtk..-2.4-dev/libgtkmm2.4-dev | 18:20 |
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| lbt | I switched to Qt when I got to the point where I was trying to debug the gtk library :) | 18:28 |
| lbt | not that that's any help :) | 18:28 |
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| RST38h | He has done it again | 18:34 |
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| dob | meow | 18:34 |
| qwerty12 | 3rd time lucky :) | 18:34 |
| RST38h | Andrew, what is it, anyway? | 18:34 |
| qwerty12 | s/lucky/lucky? | 18:34 |
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| wazd | ~burn Andrewfblack | 18:36 |
| * infobot pours gasoline all over Andrewfblack, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze | 18:36 | |
| lbt | here kitty | 18:36 |
| Andrewfblack | rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr | 18:36 |
| Andrewfblack | rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr | 18:36 |
| Andrewfblack | rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr | 18:36 |
| lbt | :D | 18:36 |
| Andrewfblack | rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr | 18:36 |
| Andrewfblack | rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr | 18:36 |
| qwerty12 | Welcome cat to lbt's house of pain :) | 18:36 |
| sp3000 | oh no, irc purring | 18:37 |
| wazd | what the fuck is that :) | 18:37 |
| wazd | It's like Jackyl and Hyde :) | 18:37 |
| lbt | wazd: I'm guessing Andrewfblack has a cat and it's on his keyboard | 18:37 |
| lbt | Mine does that | 18:37 |
| qwerty12 | You wouldn't be able to get my old cat near a keyboard... | 18:38 |
| wazd | lbt: and the cat pressing up and enter :) | 18:38 |
| * lbt wonders if Andrewfblack's cat will get the karma and a vote? | 18:38 | |
| wazd | lbt: and the cat pressing up and enter :) | 18:38 |
| wazd | lbt: and the cat pressing up and enter :) | 18:38 |
| wazd | lbt: and the cat pressing up and enter :) | 18:38 |
| wazd | :) | 18:38 |
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| suihkulokki | ..my cat rarely manages to hit both enter and same key repeatedly | 18:38 |
| wazd | it's like next it will be "Hello, it's Andrewfblack's cat!" :) | 18:39 |
| qwerty12 | There's something wrong with him/her, take him/her back :) | 18:39 |
| sp3000 | it's not inconceivable that a client would split lines | 18:39 |
| lbt | suihkulokki: my cat sometimes types in working perl code! | 18:39 |
| lbt | OTOH that's not hard | 18:40 |
| wazd | lbt: xD | 18:40 |
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| slonopotamus | hey | 18:40 |
| slonopotamus | i got X working. output only yet | 18:41 |
| wazd | slonopotamus: halo :) | 18:41 |
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| RST38h | oh fuck | 18:43 |
| * RST38h rotates the ti85 image | 18:43 | |
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| wazd | RST38h: oh, is it working already?) | 18:45 |
| slonopotamus_ | crappy gprs... | 18:47 |
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| slonopotamus_ | hello, people! my gentoo now has X! | 18:47 |
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| RST38h | wazd: kinda | 18:47 |
| qwerty12 | congrats :) | 18:48 |
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| slonopotamus_ | thx :) | 18:48 |
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| slonopotamus__ | i need network, touchscreen and after that will be ready for ugly self-hosting :) | 18:54 |
| RST38h | image loaded | 18:57 |
| RST38h | a little bit faded because of the 16bpp | 18:57 |
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| RST38h | Ok, I have got a full screen TI85 on N810 | 19:05 |
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| Andrewfblack | yu{UIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP | 19:12 |
| RST38h | hmm | 19:12 |
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| qwerty12 | Andrewfblack, if away, may I suggest pressing Win+L :) | 19:13 |
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| slonopotamus__ | omg | 19:15 |
| slonopotamus__ | what was that? | 19:16 |
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| RST38h | Andrew turns to a cat every now and then and starts clawing at thekeyboadrd | 19:17 |
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| wazd | Good evening, I'm wazd's dog | 19:18 |
| wazd | :) | 19:18 |
| qwerty12 | Corneil, you can talk!? | 19:18 |
| wazd | Well, I know several languages | 19:19 |
| wazd | bark-bark :) | 19:19 |
| qwerty12 | arf | 19:19 |
| wazd | woof | 19:19 |
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| fred23 | Hi everybody...I'm with Mozilla and we're experiencing some problems with invisible widget creation under maemo with hildon theme (nokia N810 device).... | 19:21 |
| dexterk_ | finally | 19:22 |
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| fred23 | I'd like to debug "trunk/ glib/ gobject/ gobject.c" directly on the device... | 19:22 |
| dexterk_ | I think clone os 2008 to SD is the best idea | 19:22 |
| fred23 | could anyone give me some guidelines as to which packages to install and so on ? | 19:22 |
| fred23 | dexterk_: sorry.. was that for me ? | 19:23 |
| dexterk_ | no | 19:23 |
| fred23 | k | 19:24 |
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| wazd | fred23: invisible - you mean transparent? | 19:31 |
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| RST38h | Anyone remembers what character "dia" corresponds to? | 19:34 |
| dneary | X-Fade: how's brussels? | 19:36 |
| wazd | Time to bet, if new UI will be revealed tomorrow :) | 19:38 |
| qwerty12 | I'll bet your dog :) | 19:38 |
| wazd | bet infobot :) | 19:39 |
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| qwerty12 | infobot, do you like qwerty12? | 19:39 |
| infobot | yes, I like qwerty12. | 19:39 |
| qwerty12 | wazd, how can I bet him/her after that? :) | 19:39 |
| wazd | awwww xD | 19:40 |
| qwerty12 | hehe :D | 19:40 |
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| wazd | well, maybe I'm wrong :( | 19:41 |
| RST38h | wazd: what is gonna happen tomorrow | 19:41 |
| RST38h | ? | 19:41 |
| wazd | RST38hL fosdem | 19:42 |
| slonopotamus | anyone has xorg.conf section for tslib? | 19:42 |
| wazd | RST38h: fosdem | 19:42 |
| wazd | RST38h: http://fosdem.org/2009/schedule/events/emb_maemo_beagleboard | 19:42 |
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| roope | what's tomorrow. | 19:43 |
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| thopiekar | np | 19:45 |
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| wazd | http://mg.pov.lt/blog/ebooks-are-the-future | 19:46 |
| RST38h | wazd: I doubt it | 19:46 |
| wazd | wroooong) | 19:46 |
| wazd | digital would never replace analog | 19:47 |
| wazd | RST38h: me too, but I hope :) | 19:47 |
| RST38h | wazd: I really doubt we will see something really new. Evolutionary - maybe | 19:47 |
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| qwerty12 | I'm being a spaz. 400 x 240 of course. | 20:13 |
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| Stskeeps | AFB-Cat: lock your workstation while away | 20:15 |
| AFB-Cat | I used to always shut my laptop but the last few days i have been forgetting | 20:15 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 20:16 |
| slonopotamus | Stskeeps, do you have xorg.conf with tslib device defined? | 20:16 |
| AFB-Cat | well Circuit city made me happy after 2 hours and 4 people | 20:16 |
| AFB-Cat | they wouildn't give me my money back but they let me spend same amount in the store | 20:17 |
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| Stskeeps | slonopotamus: lp:~mer-committers/m-r/imager has it | 20:21 |
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| slonopotamus | brb, gone for reboot to test touchscreen | 20:23 |
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| qwerty12 | Typical, I get XSP to work and it turns out that the game doesn't like the new screen size >.> | 20:24 |
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| benson[away] | AFB-Cat: shoot the cat, then you won't have to close the laptop. :p | 20:27 |
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| slonopotamus | Stskeeps, what device should be used for touchscreen? | 20:30 |
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| AFB-Cat | benson[away], lol | 20:32 |
| slonopotamus | Stskeeps, found, /dev/input/event3 | 20:34 |
| Zic | I heard that Mer include the latest libhildon with kinetic action/UI, is it right? | 20:35 |
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| lcuk | AFB-Cat, stop picking the laptop up with your right hand | 21:11 |
| * lcuk has never seen a cat touch in the same place every night | 21:11 | |
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| RST38h | That does not necessarily have to be his hand... | 21:17 |
| lcuk | heh | 21:17 |
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| lcuk | i do the same when i pick my laptop up | 21:18 |
| lcuk | only mine is near the d key | 21:18 |
| lcuk | i curse it and delete from code | 21:18 |
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| sandman | Okau | 21:28 |
| sandman | Okay, rather | 21:28 |
| sandman | When I open sketch, and press any point on the screen | 21:28 |
| sandman | It'll draw a line from the very center of the screen to where I touched the screen | 21:29 |
| sandman | So it seems that somehow, the very center of the screen is always "down" | 21:29 |
| sandman | This, I strong believe, is a software problem. | 21:29 |
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| sandman | strongly, rather. | 21:30 |
| sandman | Anyone have experience with this? | 21:30 |
| pupnik | do subsequent lines function properly? | 21:31 |
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| sandman | I'm just trying to make a dot | 21:32 |
| sandman | I just tap the screen | 21:32 |
| sandman | And it makes a line, instead | 21:32 |
| sandman | And no | 21:32 |
| sandman | This would likely explain why it is so difficult for me to click anything on my n810 | 21:32 |
| sandman | I always reflashed the device | 21:32 |
| sandman | Same problem is still there | 21:32 |
| sandman | And now it's clicking | 21:33 |
| sandman | Even though Im not pressing anything | 21:33 |
| sandman | it keeps clicking as if I were touching the scren | 21:33 |
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| sandman | There's some sort of desync between the xserver and what's being tapped on the screen | 21:36 |
| sandman | This is rather obvious to me | 21:37 |
| florian | re | 21:37 |
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| sandman | And, at random | 21:38 |
| sandman | In sketch | 21:38 |
| sandman | a dot will be drawn and the very center of the screen | 21:38 |
| sandman | When I haven't even touched it | 21:38 |
| sandman | And it'll keep doing that. Like a ghost is doing it | 21:38 |
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| sandman | I figured nobody would be able to help | 21:40 |
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| pupnik | sandman: sounds like a faulty screen | 22:02 |
| pupnik | i have to praise nokia for the build quality | 22:03 |
| pupnik | mine has suffered some bad abuse without breaking | 22:03 |
| pupnik | *have | 22:04 |
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| sandman | Huh. Well, it just seems rather odd that the screen would be _this_ bad. What's strange is that it doesn't appear to be actually faulty | 22:26 |
| sandman | Really seems like an X problem. But whatever | 22:26 |
| sandman | I'll return it | 22:26 |
| sandman | I guess | 22:26 |
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| slonopotamus | :( tslib can't init | 23:12 |
| slonopotamus | do i need some magic except for xorg.conf and driver? | 23:13 |
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| Sargun | N900, Palm Pre, New Laptop -- all sorts of new purchases this year | 23:23 |
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| wazd | It's ridiculous but Russia doe not have any free weather forecast sources :) | 23:44 |
| wazd | I mean RSS sources | 23:45 |
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| roope | in russia, the weather forecasts you! | 23:48 |
| ||cw | in ^soviet^ russia | 23:49 |
| qwerty12_N800 | In the UK, the weather fucks you over! | 23:49 |
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| wazd | roope: it's been here a while ago :) | 23:51 |
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| * wazd writing a letter to BBC | 23:51 | |
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| wazd | hope they're good guys | 23:53 |
| roope | the nokia maemo bugzilla (as least once) had this: In Soviet Russia, the bugs keep track of you! | 23:54 |
| qwerty12_N800 | hehe, sounds kinda creepy :) | 23:55 |
| * qwerty12_N800 imagines a bunch of bugs looking at CCTV footage | 23:55 | |
| wazd | bug tracks bugzilla | 23:56 |
| wazd | and bugzilla tracks you! | 23:56 |
| roope | Or something like that. | 23:57 |
| wazd | ok, I surrender, I don't know where's BBC's weather contacts | 23:57 |
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