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| crashanddie | how can I find out what's taking up space on my internal memory card? (/media/mmc2) | 00:09 |
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| woglinde | find | 00:10 |
| woglinde | du | 00:10 |
| crashanddie | df -h tells me there's 1.2g used, du -sh shows only ~550Megs | 00:10 |
| crashanddie | no hidden files, they've all been deleted | 00:11 |
| b-man | try re-formatting? | 00:11 |
| crashanddie | well there's stuff I'd like to *not* remove? | 00:11 |
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| crashanddie | and I didn't say I wanted to remove anything at all, just find out what's taking up the room | 00:12 |
| crashanddie | you know, it's like when you're cleaning out your room, you want some more space, but if you find a hot girl, you don't put her in the trash | 00:12 |
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| b-man | try this; go into your browser, type in file:///media/mmc2/ - you could have hidden files. (anything with . before the word) | 00:14 |
| crashanddie | [22:11] (crashanddie) no hidden files, they've all been deleted | 00:14 |
| crashanddie | anyway, I took your advice, just formatted | 00:15 |
| crashanddie | weird though that a stock n810 has corrupt memory | 00:15 |
| qwerty12_N800 | crashanddie, wow, you bought another n810? | 00:16 |
| crashanddie | yeah | 00:16 |
| qwerty12_N800 | damn :/ | 00:16 |
| crashanddie | well I had to replace the old one | 00:16 |
| crashanddie | and didn't want to wait on the nx00 | 00:16 |
| b-man | why? | 00:16 |
| qwerty12_N800 | yeah, i was just hoping (blindly) that you'd get your old one back | 00:16 |
| crashanddie | it's been stolen | 00:17 |
| crashanddie | in another city, in another country | 00:17 |
| crashanddie | you rarely get your stuff back | 00:17 |
| b-man | that sucks | 00:17 |
| woglinde | hi qwerty | 00:17 |
| crashanddie | but hey, the hotel's paying for it, so fuck it :) | 00:17 |
| qwerty12_N800 | hey woglinde | 00:17 |
| qwerty12_N800 | hehe | 00:17 |
| crashanddie | I had it for a week or sumtin | 00:17 |
| crashanddie | just never unboxed it, haven't had the time | 00:17 |
| crashanddie | Transmission any good on the n810? | 00:18 |
| crashanddie | I figure that if I'm going to be downloading shit, I might as well download it straight to the device, any recommendations, | 00:18 |
| crashanddie | ? | 00:18 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | I've hildonized quite a few parts of it so I'd be biased if I said yes | 00:19 |
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| crashanddie | I was more thinking along the lines of "NOOOOOO IT'LL KILL YOUR FLASH MEMORY" | 00:20 |
| crashanddie | qwerty12_N800, got yourself a decent sd card? | 00:21 |
| qwerty12_N800 | hehe, dunno, i never download large files through the tablet (>600MB) & i can replace my sd card | 00:22 |
| qwerty12_N800 | crashanddie, class 2 sandisk 8gb, slow but pretty stable | 00:22 |
| crashanddie | dude | 00:22 |
| crashanddie | you have an n800 | 00:23 |
| qwerty12_N800 | and? :P | 00:23 |
| crashanddie | you should be beating the shit out of us with 2x 32gig SD cards | 00:23 |
| qwerty12_N800 | hehe, i'm broke, what can I say :P | 00:23 |
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| b-man | any cool hacks that you've been working on qwerty? | 00:26 |
| qwerty12_N800 | nope, been getting all my programs and games back after reflashing :D | 00:27 |
| crashanddie | qwerty12_N800, get a job you fucking chav | 00:27 |
| crashanddie | qwerty12_N800, some people here actually work hard every day so that fuckers like you get a somewhat decent pay | 00:27 |
| qwerty12_N800 | crashanddie, i'm from the north, i'm offended that you called me a chav :(. Hehe, i will do when I start college | 00:28 |
| crashanddie | qwerty12_N800, so get your fucking ass off to the jobcenter YAY, and get busting those nuts off on junior day | 00:28 |
| qwerty12_N800 | i know.. i'm a lazy bellend :( | 00:28 |
| crashanddie | hmm | 00:28 |
| crashanddie | If I don't watch it, I'm going to go ghetto style here | 00:29 |
| crashanddie | Yeah dawg, wassup with da gang | 00:29 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | Do I know you? :P | 00:29 |
| crashanddie | ooooh | 00:29 |
| crashanddie | tranmission CPU intensive much? | 00:29 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Yeah, pretty much the same with anything that writes to the card :( | 00:30 |
| crashanddie | lol | 00:30 |
| crashanddie | it's so bad the actual screen doesn't display anymore | 00:31 |
| crashanddie | well, i'd better get it downloading on my laptop if I want to watch something in the plane tomorrow | 00:31 |
| crashanddie | dual wifi network cards for the wiiiiin | 00:31 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Hehe, yeah, speeds aren't mindblowing on the tablet :P | 00:31 |
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| crashanddie | lol... "Status: Stalled" ... No, really? | 00:33 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | yay, the sarcasm engine i built into works :) | 00:34 |
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| crashanddie | brb, hopping to the neighbour's network, much better download speeds | 00:35 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | welcome back | 00:37 |
| crashanddie_ | actually... I wonder | 00:37 |
| crashanddie_ | does the bbc iPlayer downloaded files play on the n810? | 00:37 |
| crashanddie_ | do** | 00:37 |
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| christendoc | For anyone still interested, here's a quick-made howto gentoo on n810. Throw angry email my way when you encounter ommisions/errors: | 00:45 |
| christendoc | http://www.nosocomia.com/n810-gentoo/index.html | 00:45 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | Will I become like the skeleton in the first pic due to going crazy over compilw times? :P :) | 00:47 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | s/compilw/compile/ | 00:47 |
| infobot | qwerty12_N800 meant: Will I become like the skeleton in the first pic due to going crazy over compile times? :P :) | 00:47 |
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| christendoc | qwerty12_N800: almost definitely | 00:48 |
| christendoc | I've been rebuilding gcc for over a day now | 00:48 |
| christendoc | (and I've obviously done it before) | 00:48 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Hehe | 00:48 |
| christendoc | Eventually, I'll get cross-dev working for this, but that's a little down the priority list, still. | 00:49 |
| mavhc | what sin are you repenting for? | 00:49 |
| christendoc | eh? | 00:49 |
| christendoc | Adulterous love of Gentoo, I suppose :) | 00:50 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | Interesting, how come you specify -mcpu=strongarm110? | 00:51 |
| woglinde | lol | 00:51 |
| qwerty12_N800 | I use something like arm1136-jf-s | 00:51 |
| christendoc | It's in the armv4l stages. I'll be moving to armv6j when I get all recompiled my way. | 00:51 |
| woglinde | -mcpu=strongarm110 has performance impatc | 00:51 |
| woglinde | I guess | 00:52 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Ah right | 00:52 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | christendoc, regarding retu and time, tried a 'chroot /mnt/initfs retutime' and played around? | 00:53 |
| christendoc | not yet. My first priority is switching kernel to linux-omap. Then I'll see about retu and the stlc45xx module. | 00:54 |
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| crashanddie_ | qwerty12_N800, you will become that skeleton regardless of the OS you use | 01:03 |
| qwerty12_N800 | crashanddie_, why, thank you for those warming words | 01:04 |
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| crashanddie_ | no problem | 01:05 |
| qwerty12_N800 | heh | 01:05 |
| GAN800 | crashanddie! | 01:05 |
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| GAN800 | You catch the git for Garage stuff | 01:06 |
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| crashanddie_ | GAN800, yes, it is a conspiracy from freenode to hide your only sentence of the evening in an ocean of quit/join floods | 01:06 |
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| crashanddie_ | GAN800, yes, I half read the fact that Git might make it to the Garage | 01:07 |
| crashanddie_ | good news | 01:07 |
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| guysoft42 | hey, um, is it only me, or does maemo-recorder clash with gstreamer-0.10-plugins-extra? | 01:10 |
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| GAN800 | crashanddie, ferenc was looking for any additional input from people that had asked previously | 01:11 |
| GAN800 | I said I'd bug them, but since you and jott have dropped off the radar. :P | 01:11 |
| woglinde | good nite | 01:14 |
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| crashanddie_ | GAN800, aye | 01:20 |
| crashanddie_ | GAN800, I usually still answer my email | 01:20 |
| crashanddie_ | GAN800, and quite frankly, can't be arsed to organise my priorities at the moment | 01:20 |
| crashanddie_ | so maemo is pretty much at the bottom | 01:21 |
| GAN800 | Right, that. :P | 01:21 |
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| crashanddie_ | fin moi j'en ai pas grand chose à branler, elle fait la pute, j'm'en lave les mains, puis, célib c'est mieux de toute manière | 01:27 |
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| crashanddie_ | woops | 01:34 |
| christendoc | Don't worry about it. We anglophones were all impressed. :) | 01:34 |
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| crashanddie_ | don't need to speak french to impress you ;) | 01:35 |
| * GAN800 is highly offended. | 01:35 | |
| crashanddie_ | BITCHES | 01:35 |
| * GAN800 plays with the banhammer | 01:35 | |
| crashanddie_ | GAN800 wanna be offended? | 01:35 |
| crashanddie_ | American is the new French | 01:35 |
| crashanddie_ | :D | 01:35 |
| GAN800 | I'm always offended | 01:35 |
| GAN800 | American is a language? :P | 01:36 |
| crashanddie_ | I was more thinking in terms of nationality | 01:36 |
| GAN800 | :P | 01:37 |
| crashanddie_ | Beanie, check. Scarf, check. Leather gloves, check. Bag packed, check. Laptop packed, check. Passport, check. Plane tickets, check. | 01:37 |
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| crashanddie_ | New n810 loaded with 32gig worth of movies, tv shows and music, check. Double battery pack loaded and ready to go, check. | 01:39 |
| crashanddie_ | Yes siree, I'm ready to go :) | 01:39 |
| GAN800 | gtfo, then. | 01:39 |
| crashanddie_ | stfu | 01:40 |
| crashanddie_ | Plane is only at 11 tomorrow morning | 01:40 |
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| oli | hi | 01:47 |
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| laubersm | hello - I am finally looking to update my N800 | 01:58 |
| laubersm | It has OS 2007 and I think I have all the instructions and download | 01:58 |
| laubersm | but I vaguely remember something about the fm radio app going away | 01:59 |
| laubersm | I use that app | 01:59 |
| qwerty12_N800 | no, it's still in os2008 | 01:59 |
| laubersm | ok good | 01:59 |
| qwerty12_N800 | but you have to install it from the app manager yourself | 02:00 |
| laubersm | if I run into trouble - is the the right place for update help? | 02:00 |
| laubersm | I can install it myself | 02:00 |
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| jakemaheu | hello all | 02:10 |
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| jakemaheu | guess what I installed today? | 02:11 |
| zeenix | jakemaheu: tell us | 02:12 |
| jakemaheu | windows 7 | 02:13 |
| jakemaheu | build 6801 | 02:13 |
| jakemaheu | i've run xp pro for the past, um, as long as it's been out, and I'm seriously considering using this regularly | 02:13 |
| zeenix | hmm.. not sure anyone on this channel will be interested in that? :) | 02:14 |
| jakemaheu | meh, it still runs great | 02:14 |
| zeenix | unless you installed in on an internet tablet | 02:14 |
| jakemaheu | i have most (read: all the important media and files) on a 200gb drive separated from my regular 80gb drive | 02:15 |
| jakemaheu | meh, don't make me pull a thoughtfix on you guys | 02:15 |
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| jakemaheu | for those who don't know: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1nS9kOtA7A | 02:19 |
| jakemaheu | is there a way to get GIMP without easy debain or the lot? | 02:26 |
| jakemaheu | *debian | 02:26 |
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| Mousey | huh? | 02:27 |
| Mousey | http://www.gimp.org/downloads/ | 02:27 |
| jakemaheu | on the tablet | 02:28 |
| Mousey | oh | 02:28 |
| Mousey | nm | 02:28 |
| jakemaheu | is it feasable to simply compile it on the tablet with make? | 02:29 |
| Mousey | i'd crosscompile if i were you.. and why are you trying to fit an elephant in a shoebox anyway? | 02:29 |
| jakemaheu | i dunno, just curious | 02:30 |
| jakemaheu | how big is it compiled? | 02:30 |
| Mousey | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-5903.html | 02:30 |
| jakemaheu | tyvm | 02:31 |
| jakemaheu | brb | 02:31 |
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| Mousey | np | 02:33 |
| Mousey | the gimp is gargantuhuge | 02:33 |
| Mousey | like fitting whale in dingy | 02:34 |
| jakemaheu | i love that word | 02:35 |
| jakemaheu | gargantuhuge | 02:35 |
| jakemaheu | i'm reading that log right now tho | 02:35 |
| Mousey | good luck | 02:35 |
| jakemaheu | holy crap | 02:38 |
| jakemaheu | i only have 8.12mb of free space on my internal flash | 02:38 |
| jakemaheu | so many people's complaints now make sense | 02:39 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | ~clone-sd | 02:40 |
| qwerty12_N800 | ~boot-sd | 02:40 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, boot-sd is https://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_card | 02:40 |
| qwerty12_N800 | even | 02:40 |
| jakemaheu | booting from a flash card just seems so inconvenient to me | 02:42 |
| jakemaheu | i dunno | 02:42 |
| dystopia | how long did it take you to install windows 7? you could have done something worthwhile with that time instead... | 02:56 |
| jakemaheu | honestly, like 30 min at most, prolly 20 | 02:57 |
| jakemaheu | i played with my tablet while i waited and my lappy with ubuntu | 02:57 |
| qwerty12_N800 | hehe, windows 2000 took me 4 hours :p | 02:57 |
| jakemaheu | nice | 02:58 |
| jakemaheu | xp usually takes like a full hour | 02:58 |
| jakemaheu | (xp pro) | 02:58 |
| jakemaheu | it runs as smoothly as xp pro on my ancient system (amd athlon xp+ 2500, 1 gb ddr, 80gb hdd) | 02:59 |
| jakemaheu | oh, also radeon x1300 pro agp | 02:59 |
| jakemaheu | my comp sucks | 02:59 |
| dystopia | perky | 03:00 |
| dystopia | in belgium the poor get free 2nd hand PC from government | 03:01 |
| dystopia | maybe including some nice government secrets a-la USBUK =] | 03:02 |
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| dystopia | in the UK, the MI6 beats YOU with an USB stick... | 03:02 |
| StsN800 | tablet needs to bee mpte, udsble when drunlk! | 03:02 |
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| dystopia | hmm, i draw the line elsewhere... if you can use it on LSD its usable software | 03:03 |
| jakemaheu | that's like using canola regualarly | 03:04 |
| jakemaheu | *regularly | 03:04 |
| jakemaheu | btw, hai stskeeps | 03:04 |
| jakemaheu | er, "stsN800" | 03:04 |
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| StsN800 | hai | 03:09 |
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| jakemaheu | i'm breaking a habit and replacing it with altoids | 03:21 |
| jakemaheu | :D | 03:21 |
| jakemaheu | you'll have to guess the habit tho | 03:24 |
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| user_ | So Joseph and his pregnant fiancee turn up on Xmas Eve and there is no room at the inn. | 03:47 |
| user_ | Silly! You need to book weeks ahead at Xmas! | 03:48 |
| user_ | Had they thought ahead they could have had a nice warm room in the pub. | 03:48 |
| user_ | Mary would have had the benefit of a midwife while Joe | 03:48 |
| user_ | was downstairs singing Xmas carols round the tree when the shepherds turned up. | 03:48 |
| user_ | Then the three wise men would roll in and join in the party with wine and ale | 03:49 |
| user_ | flowing like crazy. Once she drops the sprog, Mary comes down | 03:49 |
| user_ | and joins in the booze-up. "It's a boy!" and cigars all round. | 03:49 |
| user_ | THAT's the proper way to start a religion. | 03:50 |
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| user_ | Happy Xmas everyone. | 03:53 |
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| whooper | sweet ,my android flash worked! | 04:21 |
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| Mousey | wasn't jesus born in the spring? | 04:32 |
| whooper | i thought it was in december, lol | 04:38 |
| whooper | wasn't the whole idea of christmas to celebrate the supposed birth of jesus? | 04:38 |
| zakkm | wasnt jesus jewish? | 04:38 |
| whooper | lol he's a heretic | 04:39 |
| zakkm | maybe his "birth" was the day he came christian | 04:39 |
| whooper | ah | 04:39 |
| zakkm | just a guess ;p | 04:39 |
| whooper | that would make sense | 04:39 |
| whooper | some, at least | 04:39 |
| zakkm | you know how its like uhh | 04:39 |
| whooper | yeah | 04:39 |
| zakkm | you put yourself in water or something? | 04:39 |
| zakkm | and then your "born" ? | 04:39 |
| zakkm | i dont know christian religion .. sorry | 04:39 |
| zakkm | maybe its that | 04:39 |
| whooper | same here, i'm a pastafarian | 04:39 |
| whooper | go FSM! | 04:39 |
| zakkm | whats that.. i heard that before | 04:39 |
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| whooper | flying spaghetti monster | 04:40 |
| whooper | veganza.org | 04:40 |
| whooper | er, www.venganza.org | 04:41 |
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| derf | Christmas is in December because the winter solstice the pagans celebrated was in December. | 04:43 |
| derf | Just like Easter used to be a fertility rite (hence the easter eggs). | 04:43 |
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| whooper | who here is running the NITdroid port? | 04:57 |
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| rm_you | omfg finals almost done with | 07:49 |
| rm_you | i haven't been home in close to two weeks >_< | 07:50 |
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| spsneo | hello all | 10:35 |
| spsneo | I want to contribute to maemo as a developer | 10:36 |
| spsneo | how to start? | 10:36 |
| `0660 | there's quite a lot of documentation on the maemo.org website | 10:37 |
| pupnik | here is a preconfigured dev environment spsneo http://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/ | 10:40 |
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| mavhc | now that's handy | 10:42 |
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| spsneo | pupnik: thanks | 10:46 |
| spsneo | pupnik: Actually i am a kernel hacker | 10:46 |
| spsneo | so I would like to do something in kernel internals | 10:46 |
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| pupnik | fanoush has done some modifications to kernels - high speed mmc access | 10:47 |
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| pupnik | you could get the 3D GPU working with opengl :) | 10:47 |
| spsneo | anything else? | 10:48 |
| spsneo | pupnik: is there any list of open projects? | 10:48 |
| pupnik | i don't know anything bout kernels. garage.maemo.org has collaborative projects | 10:48 |
| pupnik | wow, i make a good bowl of ramen | 10:49 |
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| spsneo | pupnik: ok let me check out | 10:50 |
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| Meiz_mer | Stskeeps: are you alive | 11:49 |
| Meiz_mer | i cannot upload to picasa, so what was the scp command :question: | 11:50 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 11:50 |
| Stskeeps | just woke up, massive hangover | 11:50 |
| Meiz_mer | k | 11:51 |
| Meiz_mer | i installed something funny from deblet repo, dsme-tools i guess, and now the screen turns off automatically :P | 11:55 |
| RST38h | he he he | 11:56 |
| RST38h | moo sts | 11:56 |
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| Stskeeps | Meiz_mer: yeah, that one is neat :P | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | wrote the .py's myself, with protocol hints from powerlaunch | 11:57 |
| Meiz_mer | does somebody see anything weird in this pic http://trac.tspre.org/meiz/Screenshot-4.png | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | yes/no.. what client is it? | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | pidgin? | 11:58 |
| Meiz_mer | pidgin yes | 11:58 |
| Meiz_mer | bit mixing with echo theme :P | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | oh! | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | well that's obviously neat | 11:58 |
| Meiz_mer | echo theme is not working | 11:59 |
| Meiz_mer | the transparency | 11:59 |
| Stskeeps | only mb theme or both? | 11:59 |
| Meiz_mer | but i forgot to change matchbox-theme, in start-hildon | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 12:00 |
| Meiz_mer | echo as a hildon theme looks ugly | 12:00 |
| Meiz_mer | because transparency wont work | 12:01 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 12:01 |
| Stskeeps | lack of some gfx prolly | 12:01 |
| Meiz_mer | there is a problem with gimp | 12:01 |
| Meiz_mer | as in maemo three browsers are shown as one in the panel. so are gimp windows in mer, but it is impossible to choose witch one to open | 12:02 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah.. cos of it not really fitting into the hildon form factor | 12:03 |
| Meiz_mer | k | 12:03 |
| Meiz_mer | dsmetool is missing | 12:03 |
| Stskeeps | and that's where stuff like qole's easy debian scripts come in | 12:03 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, ignore that | 12:03 |
| Meiz_mer | esd naggs about it | 12:03 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 12:04 |
| Meiz_mer | changing volume from abv-bk crashes hildon | 12:04 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, probably | 12:04 |
| Stskeeps | it changes some gconf or something | 12:04 |
| Stskeeps | which probably doesn't exist | 12:05 |
| Meiz_mer | ok | 12:05 |
| Meiz_mer | crashing problem appeared when i installed osso-esd | 12:05 |
| Stskeeps | fact is we probably won't have osso-esd, but have pulseaudio with esound compat instead | 12:06 |
| Meiz_mer | ok | 12:06 |
| Meiz_mer | bluetooth works well | 12:07 |
| Stskeeps | ok, command line or? | 12:07 |
| Meiz_mer | bluez-gnome | 12:07 |
| Stskeeps | k | 12:08 |
| Meiz_mer | applet is not shown as default, but it is useless anyway | 12:08 |
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| Stskeeps | suihkulokki: ping | 12:35 |
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| suihkulokki | Stskeeps: pong | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | suihkulokki: so, let's say i have an old install of glibc on my sb2-running computer, and a more updated glibc in the tools distribution. this causes problems doesn't it? (i have stuff like /bin/mkdir: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by /bin/mkdir) | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | just something i noticed | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | if i did let's say, gutsy tools distribution (similar to sb2-running machine), it works fine | 12:47 |
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| Stskeeps | morning lcuk | 12:59 |
| RST38h | lcuk | 13:00 |
| lcuk | urgle burgle. good mornin Stskeeps, feels like i slept for about 2 hours | 13:00 |
| qwerty12 | hey lcuk | 13:00 |
| RST38h | qwert | 13:00 |
| qwerty12 | RST38 | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | lcuk: hangover too? | 13:00 |
| lcuk | could say that | 13:01 |
| lcuk | and im at the bottom of my baccy pouch, its all dry n horrid | 13:01 |
| * Stskeeps notes to himself a sdk will always take up a lot of space | 13:02 | |
| * lcuk notes that the partial sdk on my n810 doesnt take up *that* much space. i had to uninstall crysis to fit it though | 13:02 | |
| lcuk | ive got a blister on my thumb from yesterdays bacon cooking. the thing is, its shaped like a mini frying pan | 13:03 |
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| lcuk | RST38h, did you see the post a couple of weeks back about tearfree rgb | 13:05 |
| * lcuk taps his microphone | 13:07 | |
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| RST38h | lcuk: no, what was it? | 13:12 |
| RST38h | was it from Serge? | 13:13 |
| lcuk | yeah | 13:14 |
| lcuk | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=246615#post246615 | 13:14 |
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| suihkulokki | Stskeeps: hmm.. so the "mkdir" in tools distro still uses libs from host distro? | 13:24 |
| * RST38h expects Tracker to become the most hated daemon in Fremantle | 13:24 | |
| suihkulokki | that sounds bad | 13:24 |
| Stskeeps | suihkulokki: it looks like this, yeah | 13:24 |
| RST38h | It will eclipse our old friend the media crawler in the degree of hate! | 13:24 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: successor indeed | 13:25 |
| suihkulokki | the whole point of tools distro should be to make you independent of host distro | 13:25 |
| RST38h | the desktop version just ate 200+MB of my disk space | 13:25 |
| Stskeeps | suihkulokki: i guess noone really noticed it cos they're on updated distros :P | 13:28 |
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| Stskeeps | wb meiz | 13:32 |
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| Meiz_n810 | There is xchat for Mer but it depends on "gnomevfs" whatever | 13:32 |
| Meiz_n810 | :( | 13:32 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. the old problem | 13:32 |
| qwerty12 | Compile the maemo one then, I did it in a mer i386 chroot fine | 13:33 |
| lcuk | shame theres noone here with an intimate knowledge of the irc protocol | 13:33 |
| * Stskeeps doesn't know anything | 13:33 | |
| qwerty12 | heh | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | suihkulokki: the funny fact is, /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 doesn't exist in tools distribution. | 13:33 |
| qwerty12 | lcuk, making liqirc? | 13:33 |
| lcuk | a kickass clutterified irc client which also ties your friends in chan with real friends and keeps histories of convos amongst emails and stuff ;) | 13:34 |
| christendoc | Howdy. I'm compiling n8x0-80.80.14 patches to the 2.6.27 patched linux-omap kernel, but it fails to flash. (maemo kernels flash fine). Any advice? | 13:34 |
| christendoc | File size a potential problem? (it's over 2M) | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | mm, solca's a good place to ask those problems. but yes, 2m is the limit | 13:35 |
| christendoc | That helps. I'll get it under 2. | 13:35 |
| lcuk | christendoc, if you do a global search and replace through the code and remove all those extra silly ";" characters you will save loads of space when you compile it | 13:36 |
| christendoc | oh really ... | 13:36 |
| Meiz_n810 | solca is not here right now, but he has compiled 2.6.28 for n8x0 | 13:37 |
| lcuk | ya rly | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | suihkulokki: and removing /usr/lib:/lib: etc from LD_LIBRARY_PATH makes it work again | 13:37 |
| christendoc | now that's one I would not have thought to try. | 13:37 |
| christendoc | Ok to build linux-omap in a maemo scratchbox or no? | 13:38 |
| Stskeeps | suihkulokki: (within sb2.config in target conf) | 13:38 |
| christendoc | Can cross compile if need be. | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | we usually do that :P | 13:41 |
| christendoc | which? scratchbox or cross compile? | 13:41 |
| Stskeeps | scratchbox is a cross compilation toolkit :P | 13:42 |
| christendoc | good point ... | 13:42 |
| suihkulokki | Stskeeps: right, that''s worth pointing to the sdk+ people | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | k | 13:43 |
| RST38h | Sts, suihkulokki: btw, has the latest sdk+ fixed the --host-tools option? | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | well, it's more of a sb2 problem than sdk+, or are they the same thing? :P | 13:43 |
| * RST38h would like to move away from etch finally | 13:43 | |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: i'm attempting to use jaunty/mer itself as tools distribution | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | so far its working :P | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | after fixing the odd ld_library_path probelm | 13:45 |
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| Stskeeps | woo, progress. src/dash: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.14, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped | 14:02 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:02 |
| christendoc | Got it to 1.9 and it flashed. Thanks Stskeeps. | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | np | 14:06 |
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| * Stskeeps ponders to use sb1 just to have some crap working. | 14:14 | |
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| Stskeeps | sigh. it can build a full package, but fails at generating source package, or making md5sums. | 14:42 |
| Stskeeps | sigh. | 14:42 |
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| t_s_o | hrmf, im not sure what kind of estimative magic the N800 is doing, but no way can a 10% drop in battery pr 3 hours convert into a 6 day standby... | 15:14 |
| lcuk | t_s_o, i always thought the logic was based on voodoo and by choosing random pixels from the camera sensor and stuff | 15:15 |
| t_s_o | you may not be that far off ;) | 15:16 |
| lcuk | but if its busy doing something when asked the first time it may well under estimate based on specifically what it was doing right then, not a better average | 15:16 |
| lcuk | (incidentally, i would have said it uses the planetary alignment, but that requires gps :D :P) | 15:17 |
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| mavhc | good idea to use the camera for random number generator though | 15:19 |
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| GAN800 | t_s_o, the standby time is based on a pessimistic idle consumption rate | 15:19 |
| lcuk | mavhc, but if we use all the randomness from the camera, we will be left with useless images of peoples faces and stuff :P | 15:20 |
| lcuk | mornin GAN800 :) | 15:20 |
| lcuk | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=249410 :D seen this? | 15:20 |
| t_s_o | GAN800: strange then that in my case results in a highly optimistic standby duration... | 15:32 |
| lcuk | ask the same question when your machine is totally idle and you will get a different answer to if its busy | 15:34 |
| GAN800 | t_s_o, because you're not actually getting to idle. . . | 15:34 |
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| GAN800 | Something's using cycles, you're connected to wifi, whatever. | 15:34 |
| t_s_o | i worry about that, but from what i can tell, the only likely offender is hildon-desktop... | 15:35 |
| lcuk | t_s_o, gan is right, it could have nothing to do with current cpu state | 15:35 |
| lcuk | theres more in the box than can be checked by looking at load average | 15:35 |
| lcuk | ;) you might be running your powervr chip :P | 15:35 |
| t_s_o | having a terminal app write to internal flash every 30 min should not have this big a impact, should it? | 15:35 |
| lcuk | depends if "something" is a 400mb file or not | 15:36 |
| t_s_o | nah, just some quick ascii to collect the data for battery-graph ;) | 15:36 |
| lcuk | and what mechanism do you use for waiting for 30minutes? | 15:36 |
| GAN800 | t_s_o, leaving xterm open messes up idling | 15:36 |
| t_s_o | ye crud... | 15:36 |
| lcuk | it might be more practical to consider a true monitoriing daemon | 15:37 |
| GAN800 | We need powertop | 15:37 |
| t_s_o | or something similar... | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, isn't powertop possible with our new 2.6.28 working kernels and wifi? | 15:38 |
| t_s_o | hmm, seems i can run the logger without using xterm, just need to kill it in some other way at a later date... | 15:40 |
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| keesj | Sinterklaas FTW | 15:54 |
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| gnuton | hello | 15:55 |
| Stskeeps | hi hi | 15:58 |
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| Meiz_n810 | where can i get maemo-xchat source? | 16:03 |
| jakemaheu | morning everybody | 16:03 |
| Meiz_n810 | morning | 16:03 |
| Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: on extras probably | 16:03 |
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| Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/diablo/free/source/x/xchat/ | 16:03 |
| Meiz_n810 | ah | 16:04 |
| Meiz_n810 | i was looking from "non-source" dir | 16:04 |
| jakemaheu | grah I think windows 7 has liek one bug, but i'm not sure if it's my router or windows 7 | 16:05 |
| Stskeeps | it | 16:06 |
| jakemaheu | when it disconnects every so often, it reconnects and people on my wireless network get kicked off (even wired connections) | 16:06 |
| Stskeeps | 's beta/early beta.., dude :P | 16:06 |
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| jakemaheu | meh | 16:06 |
| jakemaheu | and i'm using vista drivers | 16:06 |
| jakemaheu | it seems to be holding up better now, tho | 16:06 |
| Meiz_n810 | is win7 better than vista? (the early-beta) :P | 16:07 |
| jakemaheu | i've only played with vista a bit, but 7 is WAAAY better | 16:09 |
| jakemaheu | if you get it, get build 6801 | 16:09 |
| jakemaheu | the newest one is biggy i hear | 16:09 |
| jakemaheu | *buggy | 16:09 |
| jakemaheu | brb, breakfast | 16:09 |
| qwerty12_N800 | hrm, tempting but i hate having to reinstall grub | 16:10 |
| Meiz_n810 | qwerty: you built maemo-xchat for i386? | 16:10 |
| Meiz_n810 | how can i get libconic0-dev | 16:11 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Meiz_n810, yes | 16:11 |
| qwerty12_N800 | i built my own but i think stskeeps has it | 16:11 |
| qwerty12_N800 | in his repo | 16:11 |
| Meiz_n810 | libconic0-dev? apt says notfound... is libconic0-dev source is extras-devel? | 16:12 |
| qwerty12_N800 | no, in sdk repo | 16:12 |
| Meiz_n810 | okay | 16:13 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | http://repository.maemo.org/pool/diablo/free/libc/libconic/ | 16:13 |
| jakemaheu | @qwerty: i just installed it on a spare 20gb drive, took like 20-30 min to install | 16:14 |
| jakemaheu | my dad is a giant geek too, so we've got a stockpile of spare parts | 16:14 |
| * Stskeeps ponders if scratchbox1 will save the day. | 16:14 | |
| jakemaheu | would you like to hear a story? | 16:15 |
| Meiz_n810 | qwerty12_N800: thanks | 16:15 |
| qwerty12_N800 | jakemaheu, alas, I don't have available. i killed my last 20gb trying to replace my xbox's hd :/ | 16:15 |
| jakemaheu | esd? | 16:15 |
| qwerty12_N800 | s/have/have one/ | 16:15 |
| infobot | qwerty12_N800 meant: jakemaheu, alas, I don't have one available. i killed my last 20gb trying to replace my xbox's hd :/ | 16:15 |
| qwerty12_N800 | jakemaheu, no, just stopped spinning:/ | 16:15 |
| jakemaheu | static killed it? | 16:15 |
| jakemaheu | ah | 16:15 |
| jakemaheu | what kind? | 16:16 |
| qwerty12_N800 | some old ibm, circa 2001 | 16:16 |
| jakemaheu | ah, i see | 16:16 |
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| jakemaheu | if it was a barracuda, you'd probably still have some warranty left | 16:16 |
| jakemaheu | lol | 16:16 |
| jakemaheu | brb, cereal | 16:16 |
| qwerty12_N800 | hehe | 16:18 |
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| jakemaheu | nom i'm back | 16:21 |
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| jakemaheu | who here has nitdroid? | 16:25 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: what was the non-shitty qemu for EABI in sb1 again? | 16:26 |
| Meiz_n810 | what should i do when there is no configure file? | 16:27 |
| Meiz_n810 | jakemaheu: NITdroid works pretty well now :) | 16:27 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Meiz_n810, add ./autogen.sh before configure in debian/rules | 16:27 |
| jakemaheu | anyone with an n800? | 16:28 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps, can't remember. what's your problem? | 16:28 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: .. where do i start :P nah, i got it - qemu-arm-cvs-m | 16:28 |
| qwerty12_N800 | hehe | 16:28 |
| Stskeeps | but i just think i managed to get it to work | 16:29 |
| qwerty12_N800 | i actually use that patched qemu-arm-eabi with the python fix | 16:29 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 16:29 |
| Meiz_n810 | where to get autoreconf? | 16:30 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps, but i'm glad that you went the sb1 route (for now anyway) ;) | 16:30 |
| Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: apt-get install autoconf | 16:31 |
| Meiz_n810 | thanks | 16:31 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Meiz_n810, do a apt-get install autotools-dev | 16:31 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: well. sb2 is sane, but it has some very annoying bugs | 16:31 |
| Stskeeps | and when they're fixed, sure.. | 16:32 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:32 |
| qwerty12_N800 | sb2 is a bug | 16:32 |
| Stskeeps | yes and no.. :P | 16:32 |
| qwerty12_N800 | As a stubborn bastard, I disagree. :P | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | i just want a working sdk honestly | 16:33 |
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| Stskeeps | i was -so- close with sb2 :P | 16:38 |
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| Meiz_n810 | what should i do now? :P | 16:44 |
| Meiz_n810 | configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in "." "./.." "./../.." | 16:44 |
| Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: sh autogen.sh .. and sometimes packages are a bit fun :) | 16:44 |
| Meiz_n810 | k | 16:45 |
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| Stskeeps | dpkg-deb: building package `dash' in `../dash_0.5.4-12ubuntu2_armel.deb'. | 16:45 |
| Stskeeps | oh fucking finally. excuse my french | 16:45 |
| qwerty12_N800 | fucking disgusting language, i'm appalled to hear such things. | 16:46 |
| Meiz_n810 | hmm | 16:47 |
| Meiz_n810 | configure.ac:6: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | apt-get install libtool? :P | 16:48 |
| Meiz_n810 | thanks :P | 16:49 |
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| Meiz_n810 | rrr...this is not easy | 17:00 |
| Meiz_n810 | test-proxies.c:78: error: format not a string literal and no format arguments | 17:00 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, probably -Werror | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | we use a new gcc and it is rather complainish | 17:02 |
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| jake_maheu | hullo guise | 17:13 |
| qwerty12_N800 | ello | 17:13 |
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| Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: you gonna be at your desktop machine sometime during today? | 17:33 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps, in 30 mins for about 2 hours | 17:33 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 17:34 |
| Stskeeps | i have something for you to try then :P | 17:34 |
| * qwerty12_N800 goes all giddy :P | 17:34 | |
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| jakemaheu | hey guys | 17:36 |
| jakemaheu | if you clone your os to sd, can you still boot normally if you don't have the card in? | 17:37 |
| qwerty12_N800 | yes, it just boots from flash | 17:37 |
| jakemaheu | sweet, maybe i'll rty it now ;D | 17:38 |
| jakemaheu | *maybe | 17:38 |
| jakemaheu | er, **** i mean *try | 17:39 |
| jakemaheu | lol i just got 55 mb of space back on my flash | 17:39 |
| jakemaheu | xulrunner and vlc | 17:39 |
| jakemaheu | vlc doesn't even work that well | 17:39 |
| jakemaheu | and i got rid of fennec, so xulrunner is useless | 17:39 |
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| Stskeeps | lo b-man | 17:40 |
| jakemaheu | hey b-man | 17:40 |
| qwerty12_N800 | hi b-man | 17:40 |
| b-man | hello! | 17:40 |
| b-man | hi | 17:40 |
| b-man | it's going to be 54 F here today! | 17:40 |
| Stskeeps | cold? :P | 17:41 |
| * Stskeeps uses sane units | 17:41 | |
| b-man | kinda, but it beets 23 | 17:41 |
| b-man | but the low will be 19 :P | 17:42 |
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| yerga | mmm, I don't remember if mce is going out for Fremantle? someone remember it? | 17:44 |
| RST38h | so they said, afaik | 17:45 |
| GAN800 | yerga, OHM, I guess | 17:46 |
| Stskeeps | yerga: yes, dsme and mce going out, which is understandable | 17:46 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer_Blueprint#SB1_SDK_Guide when you're ready | 17:46 |
| yerga | ah, thanks. I was seeing some interesting things in the mce header files of the Fremantle SDK... | 17:46 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps, nice.. | 17:47 |
| Stskeeps | yerga: there's probably a bit of backwards compatibility. what are you seeing? | 17:47 |
| yerga | for example: #define MCE_CALL_STATE_CELLULAR "cellular" | 17:48 |
| Stskeeps | eh. | 17:48 |
| Stskeeps | yes, that is indeed interesting | 17:48 |
| yerga | and... #define MCE_ORIENTATION_PORTRAIT "portrait" | 17:48 |
| yerga | also there's for landscape orientation | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, finally :P | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | #define MCE_ORIENTATION_FACE_DOWN"face_down" | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | kinda odd though.. | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | or on stand or off stand | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | oh, i just found definate proof of accelerometer | 17:50 |
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| * RST38h no longer remembers what 59oF is. Is it "fairly cold", "warm" or "freezing y | 17:50 | |
| RST38h | our ass off"? | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: " * @param code @c dbus_string_t with the old encrypted password from @c crypt(3)" | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | seems like they noticed your CAL hack ;) | 17:50 |
| b-man | i've been working on improving the mer imager, it now uses a launcher that automaticly reads your settings from a file, formats your mmc if you want it to, and starts the imager with the set of instructions you would put in the config file. | 17:51 |
| RST38h | yerga: May it be that they have decided to keep old #defines and add new ones with the same prefix? | 17:51 |
| Stskeeps | b-man: alright - patches welcome | 17:51 |
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| Stskeeps | "#define MCE_ENABLE_VIBRATOR"req_vibrator_enable"" | 17:51 |
| Stskeeps | <3 | 17:51 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps, my cal hack? i never managed to do anything :( | 17:51 |
| Stskeeps | aw :P | 17:52 |
| Stskeeps | the one about lock code | 17:52 |
| RST38h | Sts: Does it mean that the next tablet will come in a different form factor? =) | 17:52 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps, ah :D | 17:52 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: i'm not sure what the hell "facing down" means | 17:52 |
| Stskeeps | ooh. vibrator patterns. heh heh | 17:53 |
| b-man | @Stskeeps; i'll send you the updated launcher sometime today. | 17:53 |
| Stskeeps | b-man: k | 17:54 |
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| b-man | I think i will start to make a nother version that uses zenity, so it is similar to use. I might also throw in swap support. | 17:59 |
| b-man | edit: simpler | 18:01 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, - don't work too hard on it though, the imager is just supposed to be one that well, builds images, and we would probably redistribute tar.gz's and jffs2 instead | 18:01 |
| b-man | :p | 18:01 |
| b-man | good point. | 18:02 |
| Stskeeps | noone wants to wait 3 hours for a OS install :P | 18:02 |
| qwerty12 | or have watchdog reboot their tablet | 18:03 |
| b-man | i would, :p but that's just me. | 18:03 |
| b-man | yah | 18:04 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, it may be worth mentioning that you need to have 'deb http://scratchbox.org/debian stable main' in sources.list before being able to do a 'apt-get install scratchbox-toolchain-cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm6' | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | ah, i thought maemo-sdk added that | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | it was there for me | 18:04 |
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| Stskeeps | added | 18:06 |
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| GAN800 | pico projector | 18:08 |
| * GAN800 thought this was google. <_< | 18:08 | |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 18:08 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, MER_ARMEL target setup. | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | k | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | might want to apt-get update first | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | there's minor problems with it still sadly | 18:13 |
| qwerty12 | Hey, it's sb1, what do I care ;P | 18:13 |
| Stskeeps | but compared to sb2, this actually does succeed occasionally | 18:13 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, yes... "dpkg: regarding .../perl-base_5.10.0-17ubuntu3_armel.deb containing perl-base: package uses Breaks; not supported in this dpkg" | 18:14 |
| jakemaheu | i'm installing easy debian turbo-charged edition | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | eh | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: well that might be because of the devkit not being ubuntu | 18:14 |
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| Stskeeps | i hope whoever continues with sdk will try to get a ubuntu devkit in instead of something :P | 18:14 |
| qwerty12 | meh, just did a dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-base_5.10.0-17ubuntu3_armel.deb | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 18:15 |
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| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot "Global symbol "$me" requires explicit package name at /scratchbox/devkits/debian-lenny/bin/dpkg-checkbuilddeps line 82. | 18:17 |
| qwerty12 | Global symbol "$me" requires explicit package name at /scratchbox/devkits/debian-lenny/bin/dpkg-checkbuilddeps line 172.Global symbol "$me" requires explicit package name at /scratchbox/devkits/debian-lenny/bin/dpkg-checkbuilddeps line 185." (and the same for lines 82,172) | 18:17 |
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| Stskeeps | qwerty12: -d | 18:17 |
| qwerty12 | Damn, I didn't want to do that :( | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | well, plenty of work to be done in this sdk.. at least we know it works :P | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | .. sortof | 18:18 |
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| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, even better, use dpkg-checkbuilddeps from debian-etch | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | true | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | so making people choose debian-etch instead? | 18:20 |
| qwerty12 | Probably would work better, diablo sdk uses debian etch by default | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | *nod* | 18:20 |
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| qwerty12 | I just went into /scratchbox folder as root and copied it from debian-etch into lenny's bin | 18:20 |
| qwerty12 | Let me remove conic code from xchat, kinda pointless as we don't even have icd in mer | 18:21 |
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| Stskeeps | (yet) :P | 18:22 |
| qwerty12 | hehe | 18:23 |
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| Stskeeps | qwerty12: think there's additional problems - ubuntu is on glibc2.9, this is for glibc2.5? | 18:29 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, trying again... configure failed on a glibc check | 18:29 |
| qwerty12 | yep | 18:29 |
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| Stskeeps | mm, 2008q3 seems to have glib2.8 at least | 18:30 |
| Stskeeps | +c | 18:30 |
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| qwerty12 | hmm, I got a 2008 toolchain installed when I was messing around with gcc 4 and maemo | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | well, mer should be more welcoming to 2008 at least :P | 18:32 |
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| Stskeeps | (gcc4) | 18:32 |
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| qwerty12 | Let me save your rootstrap to my harddisk, it's getting tiring just repeatedly downloading it :P | 18:33 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 18:33 |
| b-man | now bootstraping mer - hope it works out! | 18:33 |
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| Stskeeps | good luck | 18:34 |
| Stskeeps | rescue menu (hold down home while booting) is your best friend. select console mode as soon as you can | 18:34 |
| b-man | i think i will need it | 18:34 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:34 |
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| jake_maheu | my comp crashed | 18:34 |
| Meiz_n810 | mm.. i should try to make a theme for hildon :P | 18:35 |
| jake_maheu | hey guys, i've got a question | 18:35 |
| b-man | you shuld | 18:35 |
| jake_maheu | you know easy debian turbo-charged edition? | 18:36 |
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| jake_maheu | well, you ha ve to get the img file to untar so you can use the apps | 18:37 |
| jake_maheu | it's like 317mb, and it's downloading at 10kb/s | 18:37 |
| jake_maheu | does anyone know where i can get another copy | 18:37 |
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| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, cs2008 toolchain... http://pastebin.com/d4504a3a2 | 18:39 |
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| Stskeeps | qwerty12: yeah, ran into that one too. export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/share/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig | 18:40 |
| qwerty12 | ah, cool | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | nfi why it breaks | 18:40 |
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| qwerty12 | bollocks, let me autogen xchat again >.< | 18:41 |
| jake_maheu | can someone try accessing maemobox.org? | 18:43 |
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| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, more glibc fun... "/lib/libnsl.so.1: undefined reference to `__libc_clntudp_bufcreate@GLIBC_PRIVATE'" | 18:44 |
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| Stskeeps | qwerty12: which toolchain is it? | 18:46 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, arm-linux-cs2008q3-41 | 18:46 |
| qwerty12 | (works for diablo) | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | can you try http://scratchbox.org/~jhakala/unofficial/scratchbox-toolchain-arm-linux-cs2008q3-72_1.0.8-1_i386.deb ? | 18:47 |
| qwerty12 | downloading... | 18:47 |
| lcuk | santa had a 90minute waiting time - hyperactive kids in confined spaces are not good. | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 18:50 |
| lcuk | qwerty12, have your parents taken you to see santa this year yet? | 18:50 |
| qwerty12 | lcuk, hehe, no :P | 18:50 |
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| qwerty12 | The last time I saw a santa was in 2000 at the millennium dome | 18:51 |
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| lcuk | qwerty12, thats only because you have been barred from seeing santa anywhere worldwide after you kicked the last one in the nuts. | 18:55 |
| lcuk | they have your photo on the wall at every grotto around the country | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | for not giving him a n810 for xmas? ;) | 18:55 |
| qwerty12 | lol :D | 18:55 |
| lcuk | i played with an iphone today | 18:56 |
| Meiz_n810 | how was it? | 18:56 |
| t_s_o | burn, heretic... | 18:56 |
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| qwerty12 | lcuk, I knew santa was bad if he has an iphone :( | 18:56 |
| Meiz_n810 | :P | 18:57 |
| lcuk | meiz, not as responsive or slick as i thought | 18:57 |
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| Meiz_n810 | as showed in tv commercials? :P | 18:57 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, and again: /lib/libnsl.so.1: undefined reference to `__libc_clntudp_bufcreate@GLIBC_PRIVATE'. I'm gonna install the toolchain's glibc | 18:57 |
| qwerty12 | lol | 18:57 |
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| lcuk | yeah, i suppose its training and stuff, but it didnt respond to my finger properly | 18:58 |
| lcuk | hiya simon | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: lovely.. | 18:58 |
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| qwerty12 | hello lardman | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: yeah, i guess that's a possibility | 18:58 |
| lardman | hi qwerty12 | 18:58 |
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| lardman | hi lcuk | 18:58 |
| lcuk | ialso looked at a load of phones, and the overwhelming feeling i had was - they are tiny | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: thanks for the effort though so far | 18:59 |
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| Stskeeps | lcuk: i would be afraid of breaking something like the iphone :P | 18:59 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, np, let me keep trying | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | but if it is sturdy enough.. | 19:00 |
| lcuk | nahhh they appear to be built well | 19:00 |
| lcuk | jake played as well and we didnt get kicked out so its not that bad | 19:00 |
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| lcuk | (though i thought we would when he kept pulling the phone leashes out as far as they would go and sent the display models hurling back across the shop | 19:00 |
| qwerty12 | hehe, I was walking back from school and I passed this person with a flip phone playing some dodgy ringtone. He dropped the phone and the ringtone stopped to be replaced with the man's swearing. I grinned all the way back. | 19:00 |
| lcuk | heh | 19:01 |
| lcuk | lardman, did you have a good weekend | 19:01 |
| lardman | lcuk: yes thanks, you? | 19:02 |
| lcuk | yeah so far, apart from this morning being woken up with what i thought was machinegun fire | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | drilling neighbours? | 19:03 |
| lcuk | (jake was running round the house with a string of beads and got em stuck under the door - he pulled and yanked and they clattered lots and scared the crap out of me) | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 19:03 |
| qwerty12 | I thought you could only get rubber bands in the north as weapons | 19:03 |
| lcuk | heh no, tracy almost used fluffy pink slippers as a weapon against luke last night :D | 19:03 |
| lardman | seems lcuk is often woken by the sound of real machine gun fire? | 19:03 |
| lcuk | heh | 19:03 |
| qwerty12 | hehe | 19:03 |
| lardman | I suppose he lives in Manchester, c'est la vie hey? ;) | 19:03 |
| lcuk | she went and picked him up from a party and threatened to walk in the pub in her slippers to get him | 19:04 |
| qwerty12 | It's a trait not just common to Manchester but the entire North :P | 19:04 |
| lcuk | oi southern boy | 19:04 |
| lcuk | oi x 2 fak southern boy | 19:04 |
| lcuk | e | 19:04 |
| qwerty12 | hehe :P | 19:04 |
| lcuk | i need to get some time to myself soon, ive got some coding that needs doing | 19:05 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, success! | 19:05 |
| qwerty12 | Meiz_n810, willing to test xchat? :D | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: woo! | 19:05 |
| Meiz_n810 | qwerty12: when i get home | 19:06 |
| Meiz_n810 | i'm on GRPS now | 19:06 |
| qwerty12 | k | 19:06 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, I removed locale support from xchat , had a bit of trouble there :/ | 19:07 |
| qwerty12 | Meiz_n810, heh :/ | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: yeah suspect it mgiht be odd | 19:07 |
| * lardman ponders wireless speakers | 19:07 | |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: at least it's good we have something that makes it build.. :P | 19:07 |
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| qwerty12 | hehe, yes. Now it's time to delete all those surplus toolchains, I'm down to 3.2gb free on my linux partition :P | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | so the recipe was the toolchain i pointed to, copying in libc from toolchain? | 19:08 |
| lardman | qwerty12: rm -rf ~/.porn/ | 19:09 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, yep | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | k | 19:09 |
| qwerty12 | lardman, tried that, only got me back 1gb :( | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | sdk \o/ | 19:09 |
| lardman | qwerty12: ah | 19:09 |
| lardman | qwerty12: rm -rf ~/.porn-videos/ | 19:09 |
| lardman | :D | 19:09 |
| qwerty12 | ah, that's better! 5gb back :D :P | 19:09 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, depends line says: libc6 (>= 2.8) - good? | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: think it's a libc6 2.9 | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | so yeah | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | we'll see | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:11 |
| qwerty12 | cool :P | 19:11 |
| qwerty12 | now it's time to fix the mypaint package i put in extras-devel :P | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 19:12 |
| lardman | anyone have digital wireless headphones here? And not a2dp please | 19:12 |
| qwerty12 | lardman, I used to have a pair of sony ones (used rf) | 19:13 |
| lardman | were they analogue encoding, like a radio, or was the data transfer digital? | 19:13 |
| lardman | I've tried the former and they are noisy and not too great | 19:13 |
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| qwerty12 | I don't actually remember, sorry | 19:13 |
| qwerty12 | They were just connected to the tv so I can't really judge the sound | 19:14 |
| lardman | np | 19:14 |
| lardman | I think I need to go with a digital encoding to avoid getting the hiss | 19:14 |
| * lardman also looks for a new 5.1 amp with wireless speakers | 19:14 | |
| qwerty12 | yeah, hissing ruins the lovely sound of Lethal Bizzle :P | 19:14 |
| lardman | lol | 19:15 |
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| lardman | I think I've finally removed the last trace of that thing! | 19:15 |
| qwerty12 | I believe you, really... :P | 19:15 |
| lardman | yeah, perhaps that last copy I've kept to test the new sbc encoder.... | 19:16 |
| lcuk | lardman, don't let qwerty or woglinde near any of your stuff :P it will reappear | 19:16 |
| b-man | 50% done with mer installation, so far so good :) | 19:16 |
| qwerty12 | lcuk, I thought that reappearing was a good thing personally :P | 19:16 |
| lcuk | mailto: qwertysschool subject:missing interactive whiteboards... | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | lol | 19:17 |
| qwerty12 | I'll say it's an invasion from the North, they need it more than us :P | 19:17 |
| jake_maheu | @qwerty12: thanks for the mypaint package, once it's up | 19:19 |
| b-man | interactive whiteboards? - we call them smartboards | 19:19 |
| qwerty12 | jake_maheu, it's actually in extras-devel, I just want to fix the icon size and duplicate dependencies :/ | 19:19 |
| jake_maheu | we use a projector and a bluetooth drawing tablet | 19:19 |
| b-man | same as us | 19:20 |
| jake_maheu | @qwerty12: OH | 19:20 |
| jake_maheu | er, caps lock isn't cruise control for cool | 19:20 |
| Mousey | YES IT IS! | 19:20 |
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| qwerty12 | i FoRgIvE yOu | 19:20 |
| Stskeeps | dear god | 19:20 |
| Mousey | ^_^ | 19:20 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps seems to be getting creeped out | 19:20 |
| b-man | hmmm.... | 19:21 |
| jake_maheu | @qwerty: i don't see it in devel | 19:21 |
| jake_maheu | in app mugger | 19:21 |
| qwerty12 | jake_maheu, using diablo? | 19:21 |
| jake_maheu | yeah | 19:21 |
| qwerty12 | should be there, it's showing up here: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/diablo/free/m/mypaint/ | 19:21 |
| jake_maheu | i'll try refreshing | 19:22 |
| b-man | enyone know whi there is a package called python-sexy? :p | 19:22 |
| qwerty12 | bindings for libsexy iirc :P | 19:22 |
| briand | it's to help the nerdy types with the wimmen. ;) | 19:23 |
| b-man | lol | 19:23 |
| qwerty12 | we can see briand installs it a lot :P | 19:23 |
| jake_maheu | found it | 19:23 |
| jake_maheu | you just need a refresh in app mugger | 19:23 |
| jake_maheu | installing now | 19:24 |
| briand | just once, qwerty12... and now i have to find a good scheduling app for the n800... too many women demanding my personal time | 19:24 |
| qwerty12 | hehe | 19:24 |
| b-man | wouldn't that be a good thing?? | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: hm, i didn't have success | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | same error and all | 19:26 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, hmm, let me retrace my steps properly. give me a few mins | 19:26 |
| jake_maheu | done installing, testing now | 19:26 |
| disco_stu | what could happen if i boot from sd and have it locked to be read-only ? | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | disco_stu: wouldn't boot that well | 19:27 |
| jake_maheu | sweet | 19:27 |
| b-man | bad things will happen! | 19:27 |
| disco_stu | i will try | 19:27 |
| b-man | oh god | 19:28 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, MER_ARMEL is using arm-linux-cs2008q3-72 toolchain, with cputransp & debian-etch toolkits and qemu-arm-cvs-m as transparency method, your rootstrap extracted and I chose to install C-library, /etc & Devkits | 19:28 |
| qwerty12 | nothing bad can happen, the card is RO :D | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: mmk | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | lemme retrace myself | 19:28 |
| Mousey | famouse last words! | 19:28 |
| disco_stu | yeah i see it that way | 19:28 |
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| jake_maheu | nice | 19:29 |
| disco_stu | i´ll try it now | 19:29 |
| jake_maheu | hey qwerty | 19:29 |
| jake_maheu | i think i found a bug | 19:29 |
| qwerty12 | yeah jake_maheu? :) | 19:29 |
| qwerty12 | ooh | 19:29 |
| b-man | welcome to my world | 19:30 |
| jake_maheu | in mypaint, clearing works once per startup | 19:30 |
| jake_maheu | like, start, draw, clear, draw, clear doesn't work | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: do you rm the "new" libc? | 19:31 |
| Stskeeps | (2.9 one in rootstrap) | 19:31 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, nothing like that | 19:31 |
| Stskeeps | mmk | 19:31 |
| jake_maheu | what do you think? | 19:32 |
| qwerty12 | jake_maheu, you're right, thanks! | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: i suspect installing lib* stuff that would call ldconfig would fuck up the symlinks maybe.. | 19:32 |
| jake_maheu | no prob, love the app anyways | 19:33 |
| jake_maheu | thanks for compiling it | 19:33 |
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| qwerty12 | The hildonizations were done by anders_gud, I just applied his patches on to the 0.5.1 release and put it in extras :) | 19:33 |
| disco_stu | nothing happens | 19:34 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, ouch :/ | 19:34 |
| jake_maheu | ah | 19:34 |
| lcuk | briand, the scheduling app needs a camera, it has to take a picture and upload it, and the hotter she is gains her more time | 19:35 |
| jake_maheu | any idea why clearing a second time doesn't work? | 19:35 |
| disco_stu | i found that my card was already locked | 19:35 |
| qwerty12 | jake_maheu, no idea, i'll let you know if I can figure it out.. | 19:35 |
| jake_maheu | thanks | 19:35 |
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| Stskeeps | qwerty12: yeah, that was what happened | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | b-man: mail, cvm@cs.au.dk | 19:39 |
| b-man | thanks :p | 19:39 |
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| b-man | mer instalation complete, woho!! | 19:40 |
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| jake_maheu | what does mer look like? | 19:41 |
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| Stskeeps | http://picasaweb.google.com/meizirkki/NokiaN810Mer | 19:42 |
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| MaceN800 | hi | 19:42 |
| jake_maheu | hello | 19:42 |
| MaceN800 | so what's going on with mer? | 19:43 |
| MaceN800 | come out with the sdkyet? | 19:43 |
| MaceN800 | heh | 19:43 |
| b-man | what does it look like? i have no idia, i haven't booted it yet :p | 19:43 |
| MaceN800 | uhm | 19:43 |
| MaceN800 | haven't booted it yet? | 19:43 |
| MaceN800 | :) | 19:43 |
| b-man | it looks kinda like maemo | 19:43 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, for now | 19:44 |
| jake_maheu | i kinda like it | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | the idea is the possibility to run other DE's too | 19:44 |
| b-man | could it be possible to install gnome on it now?? | 19:45 |
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| Stskeeps | not sure, think you'd have to do mutually exclusive things atm | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | we have a problem with libgnomevfs2 | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | so | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: success when removing 2.9 libs.. | 19:45 |
| GAN800 | Stskeeps has executed a channel takeover. | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:45 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, nice | 19:46 |
| Mousey | c-c-c-c-c-c-c-combo breaker! | 19:46 |
| b-man | ha! | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | GAN800: sorry, what was maemo again? :P | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | (kidding :P) | 19:46 |
| GAN800 | Stskeeps, seriously, it's all freaking Mer spam. :p | 19:46 |
| jake_maheu | crap my blood sugar is 55 | 19:46 |
| Mousey | mer? | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | GAN800: hehe | 19:46 |
| ShadowJK_ | jake_maheu, that's kind high | 19:47 |
| jake_maheu | er, wrong system for you | 19:47 |
| ShadowJK_ | Oh yeah, different scales? | 19:47 |
| qwerty12 | b-man, when it boots, could you try something out for me? :P | 19:48 |
| jake_maheu | 3.05 for you | 19:48 |
| b-man | shure! | 19:48 |
| ShadowJK_ | Oh, so that means you can have more caek? | 19:48 |
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| jake_maheu | actually, glucose tabs | 19:48 |
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| jake_maheu | nom raspberry | 19:48 |
| qwerty12 | b-man, thanks! Could you install http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/xchat_2.8.4-mer0q12_armel.deb and see if it runs :D (I've checked the deb, it runs no postinst scripts nor installs any libs so it should be safe to install) | 19:49 |
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| b-man | ok! | 19:49 |
| jake_maheu | @shadowjk: are you a diabetic? | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | b-man: small warning beforehand.. only usbnet works from stock install and you need to activate it in rescue menu :P | 19:49 |
| jake_maheu | type 1 here | 19:49 |
| Mousey | Should Be Safe(tm) | 19:49 |
| b-man | how do i do that, i don't have a hw keyboard | 19:50 |
| Meiz_n810 | colud network-manager work without modifications with that open-source wifi driver in Mer? | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | b-man: hold down home key when you've just selected mer in the menu and pressed center to run it | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | and rescue menu comes up, like in deblet :P | 19:51 |
| b-man | duh, whi did i not think of that :p | 19:52 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, maemo-mapper has an option to be built w/out libgpsmgr btw | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: alright | 19:53 |
| ShadowJK_ | jake_maheu, no i'm not | 19:53 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, though with hacks, I did get it to compile with libgpsmgr in the i386 chroot, no idea how it would work on device... | 19:53 |
| disco_stu | someone knows why finger/stylus distinguish isnt working for me | 19:54 |
| b-man | ok, see you guys in an hour or so, i'm going to do some stuff in mer. | 19:54 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: similar | 19:54 |
| Stskeeps | have fun, b-man | 19:54 |
| b-man | see ya | 19:54 |
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| Meiz_n810 | i tried mobile-basic-flash... only black box.. | 19:56 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 19:56 |
| Meiz_n810 | grid-home segfaults and flash home is only black box | 19:57 |
| ShadowJK_ | disco_stu, heh, only worked the first day for me :) | 19:57 |
| Meiz_n810 | kourou does not work in Mer too, but who needs them :P | 19:57 |
| disco_stu | ShadowJK_, lol.. guess i'll have to let it go | 19:58 |
| ShadowJK_ | sometimes I accidentally manage to bring up the fingertyping screen, dunno how | 19:58 |
| disco_stu | maybe is something with rotation kernel patch, dont know | 19:59 |
| disco_stu | ShadowJK_, oh no! it is working | 19:59 |
| t_s_o | hmm, seems battery-status is a python script with a internal loop. may explain why it seems to burn battery when used to monitor long term battery use... | 19:59 |
| Stskeeps | heh | 19:59 |
| ShadowJK_ | what does the loop do? | 20:00 |
| disco_stu | you have to punch the text-box | 20:00 |
| t_s_o | reads a dbus entry every x min | 20:00 |
| Stskeeps | i thought it got broadcast once in a while | 20:01 |
| qwerty12 | iirc, battery requests for it | 20:01 |
| qwerty12 | *battery applet | 20:01 |
| disco_stu | you need to tap stronger and faster with your finger | 20:01 |
| ShadowJK_ | the figure reported by lshal doesn't update on its own, seems to need prodding by battery-status or the battery applet needing to refresh itself | 20:02 |
| t_s_o | the dbus "address" is /com/nokia/bme/request | 20:02 |
| MaceN800 | sts | 20:03 |
| * lardman joins in the diabetics convention, being type 1 himself | 20:03 | |
| MaceN800 | so it's ready to install :) | 20:03 |
| t_s_o | ShadowJK_: now that you mention it, i kinda recall that being the reason for battery-status using dbus in the first place... | 20:03 |
| MaceN800 | i'll install it when i get home | 20:03 |
| MaceN800 | damn.. su8w battery is going to die | 20:03 |
| MaceN800 | batteries | 20:03 |
| Stskeeps | MaceN800: which? sdk? only if you're vaguely insane and dont mind rm'ing stuff | 20:03 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:03 |
| MaceN800 | i need an n800 | 20:03 |
| MaceN800 | haha | 20:03 |
| MaceN800 | well.. i meant mer | 20:04 |
| * disco_stu is afraid of diabetes because he drinks lots of pepsi | 20:04 | |
| MaceN800 | i haven't really looked at it yet.. been pretty busy | 20:04 |
| t_s_o | disco_stu: try the max variant then | 20:04 |
| MaceN800 | be more scared of liquor | 20:04 |
| Stskeeps | MaceN800: mm, just a current state, but people are playing with it then | 20:04 |
| MaceN800 | yeah? i'll try it out when i get the chance | 20:04 |
| MaceN800 | probably tuesday when i'm off work | 20:04 |
| t_s_o | still, to much artificial sweetener seems to have its own issues... | 20:04 |
| MaceN800 | you use the box i set up yet? | 20:04 |
| * disco_stu hates pepsi max | 20:04 | |
| Stskeeps | MaceN800: not yet, i'll get there eventually :P | 20:05 |
| jaska | black soap water | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | had such a busy month | 20:05 |
| MaceN800 | ok.. i'm going to take a nap | 20:05 |
| MaceN800 | :) | 20:05 |
| MaceN800 | i need some aaa batteries | 20:05 |
| ShadowJK_ | pepsi max is kinda vile. The old sugarfree cocacola is kinda yuck. The new sugarfre cocacola is "interesting", but tastes bitter after a few glasses. I just buy Lidl's cola.. | 20:05 |
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| MaceN800 | all non sugar pop sucks | 20:06 |
| MaceN800 | there is no replacement for sugar :) | 20:06 |
| lardman | hmm, who drinks fixxy drinks anyway other than beer? | 20:06 |
| MaceN800 | diabetes is a gene cleaner | 20:06 |
| lardman | s/fixxy/fizzy | 20:07 |
| ShadowJK_ | I might just as well drink water :P | 20:07 |
| jaska | water tastes better than light soft drinks anyway :) | 20:07 |
| MaceN800 | i go through cases of pop like it's cool | 20:07 |
| MaceN800 | water is tasteless | 20:07 |
| MaceN800 | :) | 20:07 |
| jaska | which is better than the negative taste of light colas etc :) | 20:07 |
| ShadowJK_ | tasteless but rough | 20:08 |
| MaceN800 | diet pop is a joke | 20:08 |
| lardman | I actually don;t like the taste of the full-fat colas | 20:08 |
| MaceN800 | i've seen people chasae an entire pizza with a diet coke | 20:08 |
| ShadowJK_ | I rather drink milk than water :-) | 20:08 |
| MaceN800 | like it's going to make a difference | 20:08 |
| lardman | MaceN800: yep, me | 20:08 |
| MaceN800 | fat bastard | 20:08 |
| lardman | and then a few beers | 20:08 |
| lardman | and another pizza to follow | 20:08 |
| lardman | :p | 20:08 |
| MaceN800 | fat alcoholic bastard | 20:08 |
| lardman | lol | 20:08 |
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| lardman | well I do weigh 97 kg | 20:08 |
| * t_s_o starts to wonder how "off channel" he is to the rest of the world... | 20:09 | |
| MaceN800 | goddamn | 20:09 |
| MaceN800 | that's like 300lbs | 20:09 |
| MaceN800 | well.. 240something | 20:09 |
| lardman | 200lbs I think isn't it? | 20:09 |
| jaska | erm.. thats 213 | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | eh, 97kg isn't that bad :P | 20:09 |
| MaceN800 | yes it is | 20:09 |
| MaceN800 | how tall? | 20:09 |
| jaska | my skeleton probably weighs that :) | 20:09 |
| disco_stu | i´m 70kg.. skinny | 20:09 |
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| MaceN800 | haha | 20:10 |
| * Stskeeps has no idea what he weighs these days. | 20:10 | |
| * lardman doesn't have much of a beer gut yet, only 34" | 20:10 | |
| Stskeeps | dropped a lot of weight while gf is abroad | 20:10 |
| jake_maheu | i'm 126lbs, and like 5'10" | 20:10 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, +1 but I'm lovingly called pencil by some :P | 20:10 |
| jake_maheu | and, btw, minors drink fizzy drinks other than beer | 20:10 |
| MaceN800 | im 185 6-3 | 20:10 |
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| MaceN800 | :) | 20:10 |
| jaska | depends on the minor | 20:10 |
| lardman | I'm 6'2" | 20:10 |
| jake_maheu | wow | 20:10 |
| jake_maheu | i'm only 14 tho | 20:10 |
| MaceN800 | oh... then you are not that bad | 20:11 |
| MaceN800 | :) | 20:11 |
| jake_maheu | i'm taller than my mom and as tall as my dad | 20:11 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: used to be thin as hell, then adulthood came.. | 20:11 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:11 |
| MaceN800 | everybody is taller than their mother | 20:11 |
| qwerty12 | :D | 20:11 |
| Stskeeps | or i discovered beer. one of those. | 20:11 |
| disco_stu | what about ages? | 20:11 |
| lardman | 30 | 20:11 |
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| jake_maheu | i've got a second cousin who is like 6'5"-- at least with a beard | 20:11 |
| jaska | 6'5.5" 350lbs or so.. i know.. im a fat bastard :) | 20:11 |
| jake_maheu | we share a cousin, and he's like 5' | 20:11 |
| MaceN800 | well.. i shold go | 20:11 |
| jake_maheu | and he's 13 | 20:11 |
| MaceN800 | takecare everybody | 20:12 |
| qwerty12 | bye | 20:12 |
| disco_stu | see ya | 20:12 |
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| Stskeeps | http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/fb.JPG <- best ever pic of me, .. from a music festival. heh | 20:12 |
| lardman | hmm, he seemed to be very anti-food didn't he ;) | 20:13 |
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| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, why smoke normal cigarettes? :P :D | 20:13 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: meh, not much of a weed person | 20:13 |
| Stskeeps | just gets me depressed instead | 20:13 |
| qwerty12 | hehe, I have a friend in CPH and all he can do is get high :P | 20:14 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, but that's cpfh | 20:14 |
| Stskeeps | cph | 20:14 |
| Stskeeps | <- in the province | 20:14 |
| qwerty12 | :) | 20:14 |
| lardman | I had a friend who only did that, and he's not a friend any more - became rather weird and paranoid | 20:15 |
| mavhc | goddamn hippies | 20:15 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 20:15 |
| * lardman eschews all drugs, and just sticks to alcohol | 20:16 | |
| lardman | oh and caffeine | 20:16 |
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| t_s_o | technically, alcohol is a drug... | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | mm, caffeine | 20:16 |
| lardman | rubbish! ;) | 20:16 |
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| t_s_o | the seperation is more cultural then anything else... | 20:16 |
| mavhc | weed is only as dangerous as alcohol or cigarettes | 20:17 |
| mavhc | and that's why I say we should ban alcohol and cigarettes | 20:17 |
| lcuk | i resent changes to slash more and more - i wrote a comment today before i went out and totally forgot i need to click twice nowadays \@/ | 20:17 |
| disco_stu | i'll head to my books, see you later | 20:17 |
| lcuk | lardman, those drugs are worse than others | 20:18 |
| lardman | mavhc: though studies have shown that it produces psychosis afaik | 20:18 |
| lardman | lcuk: never! | 20:18 |
| lardman | lcuk: except your vice perhaps ;) | 20:18 |
| lcuk | imagine the outrage that would occur worldwide if they banned coffee | 20:18 |
| lardman | smoking that is | 20:18 |
| mavhc | alcohol? yes, it does | 20:19 |
| * qwerty12 can't see the appeal in cigarettes | 20:19 | |
| lardman | well no work would be done for a few days until the symptoms wore off :) | 20:19 |
| lcuk | infact, i think thats why they are now saying "look, coffee grounds produce biooil - "we are saving the planet" | 20:19 |
| lardman | mavhc: no, cannabis | 20:19 |
| mavhc | that too | 20:19 |
| mavhc | to response to "do you smoke?" is "no, I'm not retarded" | 20:19 |
| lcuk | qwerty12, some crops grow well embedded in volcanic ash :) | 20:19 |
| lardman | my understanding was that the effects of cannabis were permanent | 20:20 |
| qwerty12 | lcuk, hehe :) | 20:20 |
| lardman | lcuk: what kind of cigarettes do you smoke! | 20:20 |
| lcuk | lardman, doing any drug to excess leads to problem, its not the vice, its the quantity | 20:20 |
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| lardman | lcuk: ah, but that's the thing about cannabis, it's supposed to damage immediately | 20:21 |
| lcuk | i roll my own using whatever baccy i can get imported | 20:21 |
| lardman | lcuk: from near volcanoes? | 20:21 |
| lcuk | but hasn't like 3/4 of the population admitted to it | 20:21 |
| qwerty12 | in the north, I hear the best you guys can get is leaves | 20:21 |
| lcuk | from wherever, i burn my fuel | 20:21 |
| lardman | which is why the GDP is falling probably ;) | 20:21 |
| lcuk | actually i think you are right... | 20:22 |
| lcuk | im smoking menthol cigs at the mo - since i ran out of baccy :'( | 20:22 |
| lcuk | they are so expensive in uk | 20:22 |
| lcuk | the £40 i spent a few months ago ( think it was summit the last time i bought my own) has just finished, im looking at spending that amount in just a couple of weeks | 20:23 |
| jake_maheu | you guys should check out electronic cigarettes | 20:23 |
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| qwerty12 | lol | 20:23 |
| jake_maheu | safesmokes.net is my dad's site | 20:23 |
| lcuk | dont tell me | 20:23 |
| lardman | hmm, I'm happy with my glass of wine thanks :) | 20:24 |
| lcuk | * rx-51: added support for inhaler | 20:24 |
| lardman | and feather-twizzler | 20:24 |
| lcuk | ok lardman, your wine is good, but if you downed it like orange juice everyday, or had it on your cornflakes would it still be as good? | 20:25 |
| Stskeeps | mm. wine | 20:25 |
| lcuk | (mind you, you do that already) | 20:25 |
| Stskeeps | i could really need some wine. | 20:25 |
| lcuk | http://www.winehq.org/ | 20:25 |
| lardman | lcuk: yes, I reckon so, not so good with corn flakes mind you | 20:25 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: solution 2 to sdk problems. find the glibc2.8 from ubuntu | 20:26 |
| lcuk | ahhhh, holly has got you eating special k then :P | 20:26 |
| lardman | lcuk: shredded wheat + wine works a treat ;) | 20:26 |
| lardman | lcuk: don't knock the special K, I quite like it! | 20:26 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, nice, will remember that | 20:26 |
| Stskeeps | it's at.. | 20:26 |
| * qwerty12 likes special Krack for breakfast | 20:26 | |
| lcuk | i tried it once, but i kept gettin a wedgy from the red swimsuit i had to wear | 20:26 |
| lardman | lol | 20:27 |
| lardman | you have to eat 3 bowls full, but it tastes nice | 20:27 |
| lcuk | 3 at a time? i tohught it was meant for dieting | 20:27 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/armel/libc6/2.8+20081027-0ubuntu10 | 20:27 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, ta# | 20:27 |
| lardman | lcuk: oi you sound like MaceN800! | 20:27 |
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| lcuk | why? does he wear swimsuits as well>? | 20:28 |
| lardman | no, he was implying I needed to diet I think | 20:28 |
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| lardman | I agreed, more pizza and beer ;) | 20:29 |
| lcuk | nahhhh, you don't need to diet, but just make sure you sit in the middle on airplanes | 20:29 |
| lardman | lol | 20:29 |
| lardman | on that note, I have to go do some washing up, bbl :) | 20:29 |
| lcuk | heh cya later | 20:29 |
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| lcuk | ok im goin as wlel, got some planning to do | 20:30 |
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| Jake__ | i'm gonna do something insane | 20:31 |
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| Stskeeps | what? :P | 20:32 |
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| Stskeeps | wb b-man | 20:36 |
| b-man | hi | 20:36 |
| b-man | hmmm... | 20:37 |
| b-man | well, i tryed it out and it looks pritty good :) | 20:37 |
| b-man | but... | 20:37 |
| Stskeeps | it's not complete in any way and needs apt-getting of stuff to have anything of worth :P | 20:38 |
| Stskeeps | but what you just ran is fremantle software :P | 20:38 |
| b-man | no, i'm trying to think of what i ned to say.. | 20:39 |
| Jake__ | i'm going to make gimp on the tablet | 20:40 |
| b-man | how can i set my root and user password? | 20:40 |
| Meizirkki | passwd | 20:40 |
| Stskeeps | b-man: well passwd from maemo in the chroot probably.. user password we dont really have yet :P | 20:41 |
| Meizirkki | for user: passwd <user> | 20:41 |
| b-man | thanks | 20:41 |
| Meizirkki | i always run hildon as a user | 20:41 |
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| Jake__ | am i insane? | 20:42 |
| b-man | ? | 20:42 |
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| b-man | what do you mean insane? | 20:42 |
| Stskeeps | Jake__: not really. gimp was in easy debian i think | 20:43 |
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| Meizirkki | hmm, Fn key is not working... | 20:45 |
| Jake__ | but it was in a 1.3gb partition on an sd card | 20:45 |
| Meizirkki | i have xmodmap set up for it | 20:45 |
| Stskeeps | get fatalsaints xmodmap? | 20:45 |
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| Meizirkki | i am using xmodmap from deblet | 20:46 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, but that one is broken with Fn i think | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | fatalsaints xmodmap file should work | 20:46 |
| Meizirkki | where cai i get it ? | 20:46 |
| Meizirkki | s/cai/can/ | 20:46 |
| infobot | Meizirkki meant: where can i get it ? | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | it's on ITT somewhere | 20:47 |
| Stskeeps | .P | 20:47 |
| Meizirkki | k | 20:47 |
| b-man | Installing a ton of stuff in mer from cdeb2» (my chroot software) :D | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | we definately need something alike embedding xnest/xephyr or whatever .. | 20:51 |
| Stskeeps | so you can run native programs fullscreen that doesn't fit in hildon layout | 20:51 |
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| b-man | i havent tryed that yet, i don't have anything installed yet. :P | 20:52 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 20:52 |
| b-man | does hildon-input-method work by any chance? | 20:54 |
| Stskeeps | not yet i think | 20:56 |
| Stskeeps | Meizirkki? | 20:56 |
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| Meizirkki | what? | 20:58 |
| Meizirkki | h-i-m? | 20:58 |
| Stskeeps | what keyboard possibilities did we have atm? | 20:58 |
| Meizirkki | haven't tested yes | 20:58 |
| Meizirkki | hatchbox-keyboard with many languages at least | 20:58 |
| Stskeeps | k | 20:58 |
| Stskeeps | matchbox you mean | 20:58 |
| Meizirkki | yup | 20:59 |
| Stskeeps | b-man: your best friend right now is usbnet atleast | 20:59 |
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| b-man | :p | 20:59 |
| b-man | installing matchbox-kb, synaptic, iceweasel, gnome-apt, xkbd, dosbox, gimp....... | 21:02 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 21:02 |
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| b-man | i wonder if i can install Gnome, hmmmmmm...... | 21:03 |
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| Stskeeps | b-man: there's a problem with gnomevfs2 atm so | 21:05 |
| Stskeeps | you could probably but that'd remove hildon (atm) | 21:05 |
| Stskeeps | it is ubuntu deep down so :P | 21:05 |
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| b-man | it's allwase good to try something new. :) Jhonx said that gnome on deblet could not be done..... and i sucseded... trial-and-error? :p | 21:09 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 21:09 |
| Stskeeps | never underestimate the efforts of people with too much time on their hands.. | 21:09 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:09 |
| Stskeeps | god, i love this lastfm ripper | 21:09 |
| Stskeeps | i can get some of my old mp3 collection back that i lost a cold night against asphalt.. | 21:10 |
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| lcuk | god i hate this pan shaped branding on my hand | 21:10 |
| Meizirkki | b-man: synaptic will crash your hildon | 21:10 |
| qwerty12_N801 | Stskeeps, you don't need last.fm for that... ;P | 21:10 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12_N801: the fact is i don't recall the songs until i see them | 21:11 |
| b-man | I'm just filled with overall enthusiasm - i'm allmost allwase up-beet and happy. :D | 21:11 |
| qwerty12_N801 | Stskeeps, hehe, i'm the same :) | 21:11 |
| qwerty12_N801 | b-man, i'm the opposite. i'm pessimistic and think everybody is pricks :p | 21:12 |
| b-man | even your frends? | 21:13 |
| qwerty12_N801 | for sure :P | 21:13 |
| b-man | lol | 21:13 |
| * Stskeeps ponders taking revenge on the neighbours drilling the walls on hangoverday | 21:15 | |
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| Meizirkki | Fn still does not work :( | 21:23 |
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| Stskeeps | damnit :P | 21:24 |
| Meizirkki | (using fatalsaints xmodmap now) | 21:24 |
| Meizirkki | hmm... | 21:24 |
| Stskeeps | are you sur eit gets run? | 21:24 |
| Stskeeps | i mean, we dont use xsession right now.. | 21:24 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:24 |
| Meizirkki | yes | 21:24 |
| Meizirkki | other changes i made work, but not the fn-key | 21:24 |
| Stskeeps | k | 21:24 |
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| Stskeeps | yerga: around? | 21:28 |
| Meizirkki | I start hildon by running startx.. so, i use xsession ?? :P | 21:28 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i guess so | 21:28 |
| yerga | Stskeeps, more or less ;) | 21:28 |
| Stskeeps | yerga: you were speaking of mce and such.. and i noticed face down and stuff like that | 21:29 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/nokia-patent-app-suggests-n97s-form-factor-isnt-complicated-en/ <- any of these rotations that make more sense in the orientations? | 21:29 |
| Stskeeps | i mean, there's "face down" which is either a clamshell or something alike sick.. or that freaky thing | 21:30 |
| Meizirkki | cheack "office for n810" at itT :P | 21:30 |
| Meizirkki | s/cheack/check/ | 21:30 |
| infobot | Meizirkki meant: check "office for n810" at itT :P | 21:30 |
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| yerga | Stskeeps, could be... | 21:32 |
| Meizirkki | grr.. Mer wont boot because fsck failed | 21:33 |
| Meizirkki | i'll fsck in maemo | 21:34 |
| Stskeeps | Meizirkki: oh dear god | 21:34 |
| Stskeeps | don't tell me that bug is bac | 21:34 |
| Stskeeps | k | 21:34 |
| Meizirkki | it gives me root prompt | 21:34 |
| Stskeeps | .. | 21:34 |
| Meizirkki | with RO fs | 21:34 |
| * Stskeeps sighs and really wants a new kernel on that thing. | 21:34 | |
| Meizirkki | i use 8pt fonts in Mer :P | 21:35 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 21:36 |
| Meizirkki | damn, reallu much errors in fs | 21:36 |
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| Stskeeps | ext2 or ext3? | 21:37 |
| Meizirkki | ext3 | 21:37 |
| Meizirkki | not that moch | 21:37 |
| Meizirkki | much | 21:37 |
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| Stskeeps | Mer bootstrapping meeting in #maemo-meeting in 2 minutes. | 21:58 |
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| lcuk | http://www.johnniemoore.com/blog/archives/hold-a-meeting.jpg | 22:03 |
| lcuk | #maemo-meeting NOW | 22:03 |
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| lardman | lcuk: donuts? | 22:04 |
| lardman | mmm | 22:04 |
| lcuk | :D | 22:04 |
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| Stskeeps | client trouble, GA? | 22:08 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | I'd take that as a yes :p | 22:09 |
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| GAN8001 | Fucking piece of shit client. . . . | 22:09 |
| lcuk | could telephone cleaners please report to #maemo-meeting | 22:10 |
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| Mousey | YAY! new freeciv packages!! | 22:17 |
| * Mousey glees | 22:17 | |
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| Mousey | seriously, n810 is the coolest computer i've ever owned | 22:24 |
| Mousey | if there's ever a gl-es version, i'll get it too | 22:24 |
| XTL | :) | 22:24 |
| Mousey | warzone2100, can you just see it??? | 22:24 |
| Mousey | how cool would that be? | 22:24 |
| Mousey | it ought to be bigger tho, n800 sized, with hardware keyboard and dual SD?? UNSTOPPABLE | 22:24 |
| Mousey | oh, and d-pad on the outside | 22:25 |
| Mousey | wtf | 22:25 |
| Mousey | ok, ok, enough outta me | 22:25 |
| * Mousey goes back to lurk moar | 22:25 | |
| GAN8001 | We have Warzone 2100 | 22:25 |
| Mousey | for nseries?!? | 22:25 |
| GAN8001 | For a while | 22:25 |
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| GAN8001 | For "Maemo", more accurately. | 22:25 |
| Mousey | NO WAI | 22:25 |
| mouser- | Mousey: That does sound good. | 22:26 |
| mouser- | Maybe that's in the works for n900 (I haven't seen any specs, if they are released) | 22:26 |
| Mousey | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=225038 | 22:27 |
| Mousey | O HELL Yah | 22:27 |
| Mousey | hmm, | 22:28 |
| * Mousey struggles to find a reop | 22:28 | |
| Mousey | repo, even | 22:28 |
| GAN8001 | mouser-, I recommend googling. | 22:29 |
| GAN8001 | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9093153240.html | 22:29 |
| Mousey | http://pupnik.de/WarZone2100_N810_M.jpg | 22:30 |
| Mousey | wow | 22:30 |
| GAN8001 | Mousey, you keep missing out on things that we've had for a while | 22:32 |
| Mousey | oh hush | 22:33 |
| GAN8001 | Next time you think of something you'd like to see, start by googling '<thing you want> maemo'. :P | 22:33 |
| Mousey | i usually do | 22:33 |
| Mousey | but i'm too easily excited | 22:33 |
| Mousey | =) | 22:33 |
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| mouser- | Are most new apps posted to maemo.org, or are they published on personal web sites? | 22:34 |
| GAN8001 | mouser-, depends on the dev | 22:34 |
| GAN8001 | usually maemo.org, but the early stuff tends to go to the forums or IRC first. | 22:35 |
| Mousey | poop! no pupnik repo | 22:35 |
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| mouser- | GAN8001: The forums being ITT, correct? | 22:37 |
| GAN8001 | Yes | 22:37 |
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