| derf | It worked just fine for me running it on a PC over USB. | 00:01 |
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| vlad_ | oh, that's not a bad idea | 00:01 |
| derf | It's still just a block device. | 00:01 |
| vlad_ | I just copied over mkfs.ext2 + libs from a debian armel setup I have for my beagleboard, so all's good | 00:02 |
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| ion_cu_vaca | hi | 00:22 |
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| cyrus__ | Is there an application for maemo that lets you connect to a running Xserver (XDM, GDM, etc0 | 00:24 |
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| RST38h | cyrus: export DISPLAY=hostname:serverid | 00:27 |
| cyrus__ | RST38h - ok....and what does that accomplish for me | 00:28 |
| RST38h | RTFM | 00:28 |
| cyrus__ | RST38h - I want to be able to login to another machine that is running GDM | 00:28 |
| cyrus__ | I was being a little sarcastic. Basically saying, what you wrote above doesn't do what I want | 00:29 |
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| cyrus__ | so I set the DISPLAY to another machine running an Xserver, meaning I can launch applications on that desktop. Not what I want | 00:29 |
| RST38h | Well you have to tell the other machine running GDM to run it at your tablet's X11 | 00:29 |
| RST38h | in other words you have to use the above line on the other machine | 00:30 |
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| cyrus__ | i am sure that is something that might work...but still not what I am looking for. | 00:31 |
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| RST38h | Anybody knows how I can clean unused locales from OS2008? | 00:34 |
| woglinde | *g* | 00:34 |
| woglinde | you could try to port localepurge from debian | 00:35 |
| RST38h | can I just rm -rf though? | 00:35 |
| woglinde | sure | 00:36 |
| RST38h | KILL! KILL! DESTROY! | 00:38 |
| RST38h | Hungary and Italy just went into ashes | 00:40 |
| RST38h | Japan and Korea | 00:40 |
| RST38h | Ah, now it is turn for the little Baltic republics... | 00:41 |
| RST38h | Norway, a few weird countries I do not know, and Poland | 00:41 |
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| mgedmin | hey, keep your filthy hands off the Baltics | 00:43 |
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| mgedmin | they don't even have supported locales in the OS2008 image | 00:44 |
| Jaffa | Our biggest client at the moment is in the Baltics. We love the Baltics :-) | 00:46 |
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| RST38h | mgedmin: too late | 00:47 |
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| RST38h | Apparently some apps do supply at least the lt translations | 00:47 |
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| mgedmin | xchat supplies a lot of translations | 00:48 |
| mgedmin | in separate packages | 00:49 |
| mgedmin | which kinda DOSes the app installer list | 00:49 |
| RST38h | Freed ~18MB | 00:50 |
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| RST38h | mgedmin: it may be worth it to create a category for these, something like user/translations | 00:57 |
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| mgedmin | I'm thinking that the App Installer should know about plugins/extensions | 00:58 |
| mgedmin | so if you have a package Foo (Canola, Gajim, XChat), it would show a list of extension packages for it in a subtree, collapsed by default | 00:58 |
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| RST38h | is there a notion of extensions to a package in debian? | 00:59 |
| mgedmin | maybe it's possible to hack this up by using package names (if you have foo and foo-x, foo-y, foo-z, then the latter ones are shown in a subtree) | 00:59 |
| mgedmin | and if not, we may need a custom field in debian/control | 00:59 |
| RST38h | yea that is definitely possible albeit non standard | 00:59 |
| mgedmin | X-Extends: mainpackage | 00:59 |
| * RST38h would prefer package name extensions | 00:59 | |
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| GeneralAntilles | The Maemo Packaging Policy has information on what to do with translations. :) | 00:59 |
| RST38h | it is less of a hack than extra fields | 00:59 |
| mgedmin | heh, my view is completely opposite | 01:00 |
| mgedmin | I'd prefer the package-name-based solution, even if I think it is a hack | 01:00 |
| mgedmin | the app installer is open source (yay), and it's been on my to-do list for quite a while to try and prototype this | 01:00 |
| RST38h | yes, but this is the same as I said | 01:00 |
| Jaffa | mgedmin: agreed; or 'Section: user/foo/translations' - which is only shown if 'foo' is installed. | 01:00 |
| RST38h | i.e. no custom fields, use names only because this way it is compatible with traditional debian packaging | 01:01 |
| Jaffa | That seems most consistent with what's already done | 01:01 |
| RST38h | somebody put Crawl into Extras. I wonder if it works well... | 01:02 |
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| RST38h | hmm both BOSWars and FreeCiv crash | 01:09 |
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| * Jaffa wonders whether to go to bed or watch the Palin/Biden debate | 01:15 | |
| GeneralAntilles | Go to bed. | 01:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | We're completely screwed either way, so it doesn't matter in the slightest. | 01:16 |
| Jaffa | Not worth it, even for the humour value? | 01:16 |
| RST38h | Jaffa: there wasn't blood, ignore it | 01:16 |
| * RST38h kinda expected Biden to maul the woman but the guy was very retrained | 01:17 | |
| mavhc | did you know palin can only see russia from her house because she believes the earth is flat | 01:17 |
| RST38h | restrained | 01:17 |
| woglinde | *g* | 01:17 |
| Jaffa | I don't get to cast a vote, but they did a good job of lowering expectations of her performance | 01:17 |
| woglinde | seems palin will be a new chuck norris | 01:18 |
| mavhc | for fun divide the arguments presented into ones used by primary school kids and ones by secondary school kids | 01:18 |
| Jaffa | heh | 01:18 |
| GeneralAntilles | I wish the debates were deathmatches where we got to the kill the winner anyway. | 01:18 |
| RST38h | oh well, Obama it is then. Whoever wins, he has got his work cut out for him... | 01:18 |
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| Jaffa | Oh God. "Can I call you Joe?" | 01:19 |
| Jaffa | and blowing a kiss at the audience. | 01:19 |
| RST38h | GAN: Actually, if Biden reduced the woman to a blubbering incoherent idiot, I would be satisfied. And he could. | 01:19 |
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| mavhc | well, bbc does have a reporter named Johnny Diamond, which always reminds me of celebrity deathmatch | 01:19 |
| woglinde | mavhc *g* | 01:20 |
| RST38h | Jaffa: Aha, and Biden called her "governor" saying that he is doing it to avoid offendingall the other women | 01:20 |
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| RST38h | sleep. | 01:21 |
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| mikkov_ | RST38h: how boswars and freeciv are crashing? oom? | 01:23 |
| * Jaffa 'd have another beer, but it's in the garage and it's cold outside | 01:24 | |
| Jaffa | She just winked. When talking about joining the team which is a gteam of mavericks. Sounds like the start of The IT Crowd | 01:25 |
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| * Jaffa beds. Or I might throw something at the TV | 01:33 | |
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| mavhc | ah, it's all a ploy to jump start consumer spending | 01:34 |
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| Jaffa | An N900 would do that | 01:36 |
| Jaffa | and break less of the world | 01:36 |
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| GAN800 | oOh, it's all Nokia's fault | 01:36 |
| GAN800 | I like that angle. ;) | 01:36 |
| lcuk | GAN800, are you actually on 800 now - do you have multiple browsers available over there | 01:37 |
| lcuk | hi btw | 01:37 |
| GAN800 | I am actually on an N800. | 01:37 |
| GAN800 | I'm only about 6' way from the desktop. | 01:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | lcuk, looks good. | 01:40 |
| lcuk | excellent :D | 01:40 |
| * lcuk rubs his hands together gleefully | 01:40 | |
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| lcuk | GAN800, i can see that river being a fun little way to interact | 01:44 |
| GAN800 | It's just gonna be filled with penises. | 01:46 |
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| Mousey | ... | 01:50 |
| lcuk | PMSL GAN800 | 01:50 |
| lcuk | you are so right | 01:50 |
| lcuk | isnt everything user content based | 01:50 |
| lcuk | thankfully i havent ever felt the need personally | 01:51 |
| lcuk | mousey http://liqbase.net/liqriver.php | 01:51 |
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| Mousey | cute | 01:52 |
| jott | lcuk: you need to add a "private sketch mode" for your private sketching needs :) | 01:53 |
| lcuk | jott, the normal sketching is private | 01:53 |
| lcuk | that has not changes | 01:53 |
| lcuk | changed | 01:53 |
| jott | but i can see it in your history :D | 01:53 |
| lcuk | however, there is a new option on a new button out of the way called live sketching | 01:53 |
| jott | the pron you draw :P | 01:53 |
| lcuk | no, the normal sketches do not get uploaded :) and its less porn and more diary entries | 01:54 |
| jott | gna. you missed my joke :( | 01:54 |
| * lcuk uploads boobies though ;) | 01:54 | |
| lcuk | yer jott mustv :P | 01:54 |
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| * mgedmin wants to sketch with the mouse in the web browser and have the sketch appear on lcuk's tablet | 02:02 | |
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| lcuk | mgedmin, heh | 02:06 |
| lcuk | thats for later :) | 02:07 |
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| Pavlov | hey, how do i get a diablo oprofile kernel with symbols for my n810? | 02:32 |
| Pavlov | rebuild the whole thing? | 02:32 |
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| lcuk | nite maemo | 03:22 |
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| dick-richardson | ok...I have a squid proxy running on my desktop. I want my n810 to connect to it (via ssh) everytime it connects to a network. dbus scripts is working well for that, but won't close the ssh tunnel upon exit | 03:38 |
| dick-richardson | I'm trying start-stop-daemon, but that isn't even starting the process...and it's not throwing any errors, either. | 03:39 |
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| moontiger | dick-richardson, is there some kind of timeout you can set so that the connection closes after the client disconnects? | 03:55 |
| moontiger | Gary, colchester lug? | 03:58 |
| dick-richardson | moontiger: good option, lemme check | 03:59 |
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| Mousey | goodnight internets | 04:04 |
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| sin18 | while i can use this cmd (mount -t cifs //192.168.0.111/"ABC' s Time Capsule"/ /home/abc/stuff -o pass=abc) to connect to my time capsule (apple) from my linux box (fedora), mounting fails on maemo (nokia n800/ diablo). Any advice ? | 04:48 |
| sin18 | i just i cant ping the capsule 's ip and it does even up on nmap on diablo (while i can do both on fedora) | 04:49 |
| sin18 | i just noticed* i cant even ping the capsule 's ip and it does not* even up on nmap on diablo (while i can successfully do both on fedora) | 04:49 |
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| famicom | eh | 06:58 |
| famicom | is maemo an alternative desktop suites and window managers? | 06:58 |
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| GeneralAntilles | famicom, huh? | 07:05 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's a Linux distribution for Nokia internet tablets. | 07:05 |
| GeneralAntilles | ~maemo | 07:05 |
| infobot | maemo is probably a development platform to create applications for Nokia 770 Internet Tablet and other maemo compliant handheld devices in the future. http://www.maemo.org/ | 07:05 |
| GeneralAntilles | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maemo_(operating_system) | 07:05 |
| famicom | oh ok | 07:08 |
| famicom | doesnt the maemo desktop use GTK | 07:08 |
| famicom | plus various components from gnome | 07:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yes, it's GTK with Hildon. | 07:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yes, it uses lots of freedesktop.org components. | 07:09 |
| famicom | what window manager does maemo use | 07:10 |
| GeneralAntilles | Matchbox | 07:10 |
| GeneralAntilles | The wiki article has a section on its components. | 07:10 |
| famicom | ok | 07:12 |
| famicom | so | 07:12 |
| famicom | does maemo use matchbox-desktop or hildon-desktop | 07:13 |
| GeneralAntilles | Hildon is both the application framework/GTK extension and the desktop environment. | 07:13 |
| GeneralAntilles | Which is composed of hildon-desktop, hildon-application-manager, and hildon-control-panel. | 07:14 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yes, it uses hildon-desktop instead of matchbox-desktop. | 07:14 |
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| famicom | ah | 07:14 |
| famicom | what about the login manager | 07:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's a single user system. | 07:15 |
| famicom | what about sessions | 07:16 |
| famicom | and is there any place where i can find a tarball of the default themes for hildon-desktop | 07:17 |
| GeneralAntilles | The bundled themes are non-free. | 07:18 |
| GeneralAntilles | http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.com/2008/02/theme-maker.html | 07:18 |
| GeneralAntilles | Has a template, though. | 07:18 |
| famicom | but if i had a device, i could extract it right | 07:19 |
| GeneralAntilles | Sure | 07:19 |
| GeneralAntilles | Hell, there are probably copies floating around. | 07:19 |
| GeneralAntilles | I know a few people have done 12pt/14pt mods. | 07:19 |
| famicom | eyh | 07:20 |
| famicom | right now i've got an eeepc, but due to the lack of screen real estate i've been dying to get something more suitable for low resolution screens | 07:20 |
| GeneralAntilles | http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo4.1/free/h/hildon-theme-plankton/ | 07:20 |
| GeneralAntilles | ^ free theme used for the SDK. | 07:21 |
| GeneralAntilles | famicom, Ubuntu MID? | 07:21 |
| famicom | no | 07:21 |
| famicom | ubuntu MID is horrible | 07:21 |
| GeneralAntilles | Hehe | 07:21 |
| GeneralAntilles | So I hear. | 07:21 |
| GeneralAntilles | It'll get there eventually, though. ;) | 07:21 |
| famicom | meh | 07:22 |
| GeneralAntilles | You can just grab the Hildon environment if you want to try it. | 07:22 |
| famicom | im starting to distrust ubuntu | 07:22 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's really targeted at touchscreen devices, though. | 07:22 |
| famicom | true | 07:24 |
| GeneralAntilles | What about Google's new stuff? | 07:24 |
| GeneralAntilles | gOS? | 07:24 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's targeted at netbooks. | 07:24 |
| famicom | but, the problem with all those ubuntu "mobile" versions, is that canonical are more or less trying to keep "normal users" away from it | 07:24 |
| famicom | and wanting to deal only with OEMS | 07:25 |
| famicom | is gOS a google thing? | 07:26 |
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| edrex | famicom: they own the g* namespace, so yes | 07:26 |
| GeneralAntilles | http://www.thinkgos.com/ | 07:26 |
| edrex | lxde seems pretty cool actually. I was this || close to having it on my 770 earlier, before discovering my sd card is bad | 07:28 |
| moontiger | edrex, is the lxde install safe to do now? | 07:28 |
| edrex | moontiger: with deblet? I don't know, I can't proceed till I get a new sd card | 07:29 |
| famicom | GeneralAntilles thanks | 07:29 |
| famicom | i'll try it later | 07:29 |
| famicom | right now, its time to play with maebo | 07:29 |
| moontiger | hmmmmmmmm i want to try it but im afraid of stuffing up my tablet | 07:30 |
| famicom | maybe i can hack it to run on my windows mobile smartphone | 07:30 |
| famicom | that would be cool | 07:30 |
| edrex | moontiger: the only modification you need to make to your internal memory is to install bootmenu | 07:31 |
| moontiger | hmmmmmmmmmm im very tempted | 07:32 |
| moontiger | does it reflash the entire internal memory again? | 07:32 |
| moontiger | or is it non-destructive to already installed stuff | 07:32 |
| moontiger | ? | 07:32 |
| GeneralAntilles | Deblet installs to an SD partition. | 07:32 |
| moontiger | GeneralAntilles, but the bootmenu needs to be in internal mem no? | 07:32 |
| edrex | moontiger: if you do try it, use the forum instructions (debootstrap --foreign on a ubuntu or debian desktop if you have one around) | 07:32 |
| GeneralAntilles | moontiger, the bootmenu is flashed to the initfs partition. | 07:33 |
| edrex | of course, I have a bad sd card, so maybe the wiki instructions would work fine | 07:33 |
| moontiger | ok so basically non-destructive then yes? | 07:33 |
| GeneralAntilles | It doesn't touch the rootfs. | 07:34 |
| edrex | moontiger: it leaves the current rootfs in place | 07:34 |
| GeneralAntilles | Other to install the bootmenu and Deblet installers. | 07:34 |
| moontiger | i really must read up on rootfs and initfs as i dont understand them at all :| | 07:34 |
| GeneralAntilles | The internal NAND is broken up into 6 parts. | 07:37 |
| famicom | GeneralAntilles | 07:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | rootfs )where the OS is located), initfs (used as part of the boot process), kernel, NOLO (the 2-part Nokia bootloader), and the config partition (where some information is kept). | 07:38 |
| famicom | i got it to run | 07:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | famicom, got what to run? | 07:38 |
| famicom | hildon-desktop with plankton | 07:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | moontiger, bootup looks like: NOLO -> kernel -> initfs -> rootfs | 07:38 |
| * moontiger takes notes... | 07:39 | |
| moontiger | so the nolo is the proprietary stuff yes? | 07:39 |
| moontiger | it starts the kernel ... which does hardware and software init | 07:39 |
| moontiger | then the file systems are set up? | 07:39 |
| GeneralAntilles | Basically | 07:40 |
| moontiger | and is nolo equivalent to the bios startup? | 07:40 |
| GeneralAntilles | Approximately | 07:40 |
| moontiger | ok now it makes more sense | 07:40 |
| moontiger | thank you | 07:41 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's changing in Fremantle. | 07:41 |
| moontiger | the rootfs and initfs ... what are they exactly? | 07:41 |
| GeneralAntilles | rootfs is the OS-proper | 07:41 |
| moontiger | like an image of the os that will run? | 07:41 |
| GeneralAntilles | initfs is sort of a mini OS that's a stepping stone between the kernel and the rootfs. | 07:41 |
| moontiger | oh you mean rootfs is like the full system with all utility apps etc ready? | 07:42 |
| edrex | GeneralAntilles: is part of the reason initfs so it can be reused by eg deblet? | 07:42 |
| GeneralAntilles | The rootfs is your OS. | 07:42 |
| GeneralAntilles | edrex, I don't really know the logic behind the current setup. | 07:42 |
| moontiger | ok thanks a lot for that GeneralAntilles ... i'll do some more reading about this stuff | 07:42 |
| moontiger | i need to know it | 07:43 |
| GeneralAntilles | It does seem to provide a nice way to share proprietary stuff like bme between OSes. | 07:43 |
| moontiger | btw why is it all changing in freemantle? | 07:43 |
| GeneralAntilles | I don't know the specifics | 07:43 |
| GeneralAntilles | But things should be getting faster and more straightforward | 07:43 |
| GeneralAntilles | They're switching to upstart | 07:43 |
| moontiger | arent they going to be releasing new hardware then too? | 07:43 |
| moontiger | oh from the sysv stuff | 07:43 |
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| edrex | if I have a jffs2 rootfs built by openembedded (ie, poky 3.1), should I just be able to write it to a partition on sd and boot into it with bootmenu without modification? | 07:46 |
| GeneralAntilles | Well, you'll need to have bootmenu setup to boot from that partition. | 07:48 |
| edrex | hrw says that wireless can be made to work in poky. not sure how yet, but supposedly there is a recipe for it in openembedded somewhere | 07:48 |
| edrex | GeneralAntilles: i'm going to give it a go (still have the 64M card :) | 07:49 |
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| edrex | i'm just wondering if anything in the image will need to be re-educated. it uses initfs iirc | 07:52 |
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| famicom | GeneralAntilles could you perhaps tell me what /usr/lib/sapwood/sapwood-server does exactly | 07:56 |
| famicom | oh wait, thats just a generall gtk engine | 07:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's a pixbuf theme engine. | 07:57 |
| famicom | my bad | 07:57 |
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| edrex | can bootmenu load a rootfs on a file on sd | 08:08 |
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| edrex | oh... is jffs2 module available in initfs? | 08:24 |
| edrex | (trying to set up bootmenu entry for poky) | 08:24 |
| edrex | oh, it's builtin i guess duh | 08:24 |
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| moontiger | GeneralAntilles, does the rotation stuff work with the latest ssu changes? | 08:38 |
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| moontiger | does anyone know if this: http://sse2.net/rotate/ works with the latest SSU ? | 09:43 |
| GeneralAntilles | Check your PMs. | 09:43 |
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| moontiger | GeneralAntilles, that seems to work great and a very simple install :) | 09:55 |
| GeneralAntilles | Did the .install work in Application manager for you? | 09:57 |
| moontiger | no so i had to do a manual "apt-get install rotation-support-n810" | 09:58 |
| moontiger | as root of course | 09:58 |
| moontiger | then it was over in 10 seconds | 09:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | Too bad. | 09:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | Still need to talk to m-vo about why it refuses to work. | 09:58 |
| moontiger | ach it was painless enough | 09:58 |
| moontiger | makes the web soooooooooooo much easier to use | 09:59 |
| moontiger | im curious to see if this version freaks out my icd2 like the previous one did | 09:59 |
| moontiger | i'll report back how it works out ... thanks so much again ... im off to bed now ... nn :) | 10:01 |
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| fluentis | good morning @all | 11:01 |
| fluentis | have realy big trouble with my n810 - need advice... | 11:01 |
| fluentis | the installation of xulrunner and wizard-mounter don't work... dpkg gives me "portmap seems to be installed but not configured" | 11:02 |
| fluentis | and i'm not able to deinstall the xulrunner, wizard-mounter and portmap... | 11:02 |
| Stskeeps | dpkg --configure -a | 11:02 |
| fluentis | xulrunner install: segmentation fault | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | dpkg --remove xulrunner i guess | 11:05 |
| fluentis | wizard-mounter install : segmentation fault | 11:05 |
| ToyKeeper | Wow, lots of packages to upgrade... last I looked it was about 5, but now it's up to 96. | 11:06 |
| fluentis | segmenation fault pre-removal script returned error exit status 139 | 11:06 |
| fluentis | even while forced... how to deinstall this package? | 11:07 |
| fluentis | red-pill doesn't help also | 11:07 |
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| fluentis | no idea? | 11:09 |
| trenka | fluentis: remove the script | 11:10 |
| fluentis | how? | 11:10 |
| trenka | with "rm" command | 11:10 |
| ToyKeeper | Go to /var/lib/dpkg/info and remove xulrunner.prerm | 11:11 |
| fluentis | where to find the script | 11:11 |
| fluentis | ok | 11:11 |
| ToyKeeper | Then run 'dpkg --remove xulrunner' | 11:11 |
| ToyKeeper | I had the same issue. | 11:11 |
| ToyKeeper | The postinst and prerm scripts segfault, so dpkg never completes. | 11:11 |
| fluentis | japp :) | 11:13 |
| fluentis | ToyKeeper: thx a lot | 11:13 |
| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:15 |
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| fluentis | hmmm... after removing the packaged i still have some problems to install wizard-mounter... | 11:23 |
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| ToyKeeper | Different issue. I haven't tried that package, so I'm not sure what's broken. | 11:24 |
| fluentis | invoke-rc.d: not a symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S18portmap" | 11:24 |
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| fluentis | sure... but it seems to be a problem with portmap anyway... | 11:25 |
| qwerty12 | fluentis: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21613 - read post 7 | 11:26 |
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| fluentis | qwerty12: i've read it and changend the file... no changes during installation, still "not a symlink"... should i reboot? | 11:34 |
| qwerty12 | fluentis: worked for me, no reboot needed. | 11:34 |
| fluentis | maybe i've made something wrong... | 11:35 |
| qwerty12 | I'd copy the modified invoke-rc.d from my tablet but the battery is dead on it :? | 11:35 |
| qwerty12 | *:/ | 11:35 |
| fluentis | np qwerty12, thx | 11:36 |
| qwerty12 | what you can do meanwhile is to move /etc/rc2.d/S18portmap to ~ or something and try removing again | 11:36 |
| ToyKeeper | BTW, what's a good maemo text editor? Or, how can I get the file selection dialog to show me all files instead of a filtered view? | 11:37 |
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| |newbiefluentis| | got it :) | 11:41 |
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| fluentis | thx qwerty12, was my mistake - q and 1 on the n810 keyboard ;) | 11:48 |
| qwerty12 | hehe, I had to do it with the on screen keyboard :P | 11:48 |
| fluentis | :) anyway - works for me like a charm... | 11:48 |
| fluentis | thx again | 11:48 |
| qwerty12 | np. I used to keep moving my files everytime I got that error until I found out that invoke-rc.d is a script and as you saw, I made a dodgy hack and reiv posted a proper one :) | 11:49 |
| fluentis | i think i'll backup alll these files... | 11:50 |
| ToyKeeper | Hmm, is there a real version of 'ps' available for maemo? Busybox is kinda ... lacking. | 11:52 |
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| qwerty12 | Yeah, I hacked away at the dpkg status file to let me install procps but there's an easier way with only ps, brb | 11:53 |
| qwerty12 | http://www.makikiweb.com/n800/downloads/procps_real-3.2.7.armel.deb | 11:54 |
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| ToyKeeper | Thanks. That's much nicer. | 11:59 |
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| ToyKeeper | I love the descriptions of some of the packages... mediaplayer-daemon is "Mediaplayer Daemon" | 12:02 |
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| Stskeeps | hangovers and coding time, woop | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:44 |
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| fluentis | hmmm... after the last ssu there is a hint in nternettablettalk to not to forget about editing the /usr/sbin/osso-usb-mass-storage-enable.sh | 12:57 |
| fluentis | but... what is it good for? | 12:57 |
| qwerty12 | You only edit osso-usb-mass-storage-enable.sh if you boot off sd card | 12:57 |
| fluentis | i do it | 12:57 |
| fluentis | intern 2gb | 12:58 |
| qwerty12 | then go for it :) | 12:58 |
| qwerty12 | It stops maemo from umounting the rootfs if booted off sd | 12:58 |
| fluentis | oh | 12:58 |
| fluentis | aaaah... i remeber... it helps for the extern computer to see the tablet filesystem connected | 13:00 |
| fluentis | but it's just needet if i want to exchange the files between the intern card and computer by cable... never did, i use sd-card reader... so... no need, i suppose... | 13:01 |
| lcuk | Stskeeps, its always that time | 13:03 |
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| * lcuk hates designing user dialogs in code. | 13:05 | |
| lcuk | i wish there was a way for me to draw them directly | 13:05 |
| MangoFusion | which toolkit? | 13:06 |
| lcuk | the one i wrote myself, but it could be anything | 13:07 |
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| MangoFusion | well why not make a nice dialog builder to go along with it? ;) | 13:07 |
| * Stskeeps is using today for shoehorning dm-loop into deblet-in-a-file | 13:07 | |
| lcuk | yeah it would be nice, but ive had so much other stuff to code its been a bit tough to fine time :) | 13:08 |
| MangoFusion | ah i see | 13:08 |
| lcuk | anyway MangoFusion if i had done it sooner i would have to keep rewriting it - the interface has been evolving under my fingers | 13:08 |
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| MangoFusion | no big upfront designs then? | 13:09 |
| lcuk | only the ones ive had in my head for years | 13:09 |
| lcuk | but those usually involve having infrastructure available | 13:10 |
| MangoFusion | haha, kind of what i end up doing | 13:10 |
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| lcuk | not really, i have had to use none standard methods and build everything from scratch - i wouldv much prefered to do the same thing in an existing framework | 13:11 |
| MangoFusion | in any case, good luck with the rest of it :) | 13:11 |
| lcuk | liqbase in component pieces exists as vb code using native controls back here and its much simpler to do ;) | 13:12 |
| lcuk | yeah | 13:12 |
| MangoFusion | its looking quite neat in the last video | 13:14 |
| Stskeeps | wow, that's kinda frightening | 13:16 |
| lcuk | MangoFusion, yeah, we hope to have a deb out in the next couple of days :) certain things have come together nicely now. http://liqbase.net/liqriver.php | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | my dm-loop linuxrc worked in first try | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | that can't be good | 13:16 |
| lcuk | heh Stskeeps dont be so surprised | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | what am i going to use the rest of the day on then? ;> | 13:16 |
| lcuk | chilaxing :) | 13:17 |
| lcuk | prepare for your next step | 13:17 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, reversing cal :P | 13:17 |
| lcuk | mornin qwerty12 | 13:17 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: i'm waiting for austin che to reverse engineer BME atm | 13:17 |
| qwerty12 | hey lcuk | 13:17 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, ah :) | 13:17 |
| lcuk | qwerty12, look at that link i posted | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: i honestly don't think CAL is that difficult.. also, it seems there's a DSME call for set/get cal stuff | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | cal.h is just a wrapper for dsme | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | as far as i can tell | 13:19 |
| qwerty12 | lcuk, nice! I wish I had a tablet to try your latest beta with :) (I need a new charger :)) | 13:19 |
| lcuk | oh no | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: at least cal-tool or wtf communicates with /tmp/dsmesock | 13:19 |
| lcuk | i can send you my emergency AA charger and all its connectors - maybe you could mcguyver something - or just hit your 'rants up for one | 13:20 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, yeah. for me, leaked mce code was an inspiration. but I don't think nokia opensourcing dsme will mean anything regarding cal :( | 13:20 |
| qwerty12 | lcuk, hehe, I'll just buy a new one on Monday :). I'm not getting one from the internet again after last time... | 13:21 |
| lcuk | good, as long as you can solve it | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: libcalmodule.so is really the kicker | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | dsme as itself is .. boring | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | it doesn't contain functionality beyond being a framework | 13:22 |
| GeneralAntilles | Assuming it ever actually gets released. . . . | 13:22 |
| GeneralAntilles | and that it hasn't been _completely_ stripped down and moved to mce. . . . | 13:22 |
| qwerty12 | If I had a serial cable that worked with the port at the back, I'd be tempted to write to CAL directly using mtd-tools | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: dsme is needed much earlier than mce runs, so | 13:23 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps, they may just move mce to initfs or split it and make one part run from initfs. for example, dsmetool exists in both rootfs and initfs | 13:24 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 13:24 |
| qwerty12 | The biggest thing that is stopping me is that I don't know if CAL has a checksum of any kind | 13:24 |
| Stskeeps | i am inclined to think we don't need to care | 13:25 |
| Stskeeps | the DSME calls will do it for you | 13:25 |
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| Stskeeps | qwerty12: sbin/dsme: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | not stripped.. | 13:39 |
| qwerty12 | hmm | 13:39 |
| * qwerty12 still would find it easier to hax https://garage.maemo.org/projects/dsm | 13:40 | |
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| Stskeeps | cal_ is in dsme binary | 13:40 |
| * Stskeeps wonders what he can do with those debug symbols | 13:42 | |
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| Stskeeps | if anyone's into reverse engineering and ARM code, objdump -l -d /mnt/initfs/sbin/dsme is very interesting | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | .. just putting it out there | 14:05 |
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| Stskeeps | oh thank god for people who forgot to strip their binaries | 14:19 |
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| lcuk | lardman|away, check your mails if you can :) | 14:40 |
| GNUton | Hi there | 14:42 |
| lcuk | hi GNUton | 14:44 |
| lcuk | busy hacking? | 14:45 |
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| GNUton | lcuk: Hey lcuk :) no I' m tring to package Qt 4.5 (snapshot) and Marble.. | 14:47 |
| lcuk | youch, | 14:47 |
| GNUton | I want to test them on the device... | 14:47 |
| lcuk | but i bet your packaging still isnt as painful as mine | 14:47 |
| * lcuk tests exclusively on device | 14:47 | |
| GNUton | lcuk: O_o do you have packaged your pet? | 14:47 |
| GNUton | That's a great news! :) | 14:48 |
| lcuk | :) 1st real alpha release is hours/days away | 14:48 |
| lcuk | http://liqbase.net/liqriver.php | 14:48 |
| lcuk | this might be in place to add to the ideas fountain :) | 14:48 |
| * GeneralAntilles still maintains that it will be filled with evil things. | 14:49 | |
| GNUton | lcuk: cool your page doesn't work with Konqueror :) | 14:49 |
| GeneralAntilles | Needs SVG | 14:49 |
| lcuk | GNUton, i am sorry, i am not a web designer or svg person | 14:50 |
| GNUton | Yes.. but I guess Konqueror supports SVG | 14:50 |
| lcuk | its raw and messy and unprocessed and wrong but its POC | 14:50 |
| lcuk | its the idea and principle which counts to me at the moment :) | 14:50 |
| lcuk | i am very interested in seeing what works and what doesnt | 14:50 |
| jott | hey folks. | 14:50 |
| lcuk | morning jott | 14:50 |
| GNUton | Hi jott | 14:51 |
| GeneralAntilles | lcuk, you'd get a lot better compatibility if you just converted them to pngs. | 14:51 |
| GNUton | luck: ok It works fine with arora! :) | 14:51 |
| GeneralAntilles | jott, I've got plans. . . . :P | 14:51 |
| lcuk | <<<<<<<< FAIL | 14:51 |
| lcuk | i could not get png writing working \@/ ive tried about 10 times | 14:51 |
| lcuk | i keep bloody trying and it keeps knocking me flat on my back | 14:52 |
| lcuk | *ahem* | 14:52 |
| GeneralAntilles | Haa | 14:52 |
| GeneralAntilles | Poor lcuk. | 14:52 |
| jott | use libpng :) | 14:52 |
| lcuk | jott, thats the problem, i am trying to | 14:52 |
| jott | ah. implement lzw then :P | 14:53 |
| lcuk | liquid zip on windows? | 14:53 |
| jott | or is it just zip? | 14:53 |
| jott | hehe | 14:53 |
| jott | yeah | 14:53 |
| lcuk | i really dont know why i cant get it working | 14:53 |
| jott | what's the problem with libpng? | 14:53 |
| GeneralAntilles | liquid zip? Is that lcuk's tear-free zipper animation? | 14:53 |
| lcuk | theres a load of things where i keep goin "if i can get a picture i can do xyz" | 14:53 |
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| lcuk | and i realise its not done, so i go and try again | 14:54 |
| lcuk | ive seriously considered just writing out uncompressed planes | 14:54 |
| * lcuk just cant do it :S | 14:54 | |
| jott | lcuk: does it just not write anything? or write garbage? or what? | 14:54 |
| lcuk | no, the last time i built enough of it to set everything - i got down to the final section expecting to be able to do YUV->RGB on a single line and save it | 14:56 |
| lcuk | but then realized that i have to preinitialize a whole RGB plane beforehand and pass pointers to all rows | 14:56 |
| lcuk | by this time it was late and i had work so i chopped the code out, rebuilt and went to bed | 14:57 |
| lcuk | it frustrates me :) | 14:57 |
| jott | it's really not that hard. caffeine would have been another solution :) | 15:00 |
| lcuk | yer jott :)time is the biggest one | 15:02 |
| lcuk | anyone know where lardman is this weekend | 15:03 |
| jott | maybe YAW (yet another wedding ;)? | 15:04 |
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| lcuk | heh | 15:04 |
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| jott | browsing the backlog, any news on the dsme source release? i would say the promised 1-2 weeks are nearly over ;) | 15:07 |
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| GeneralAntilles | jott, nope, but feel free to triage this to pass the time waiting. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3768 | 15:13 |
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| GeneralAntilles | jott, can you think about how we'd could make Modest user-removable without disrupting all the OS hooks for email too drastically? | 15:19 |
| jott | i would *hope* it is all handled by mime types and .desktop files etc... | 15:20 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Yeah, I don't think it'll be overwhelmingly involved. | 15:21 |
| GeneralAntilles | Anybody have a good mime type handler control panel sort of thing we could bundle? | 15:21 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Hello, trickie. | 15:23 |
| trickie | GeneralAntilles: hey | 15:24 |
| Mek | GNUton: pong | 15:26 |
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| GNUton | Mek pinK | 15:28 |
| Mek | GNUton: yeah, what's up? :) | 15:30 |
| Stskeeps | what was that package search url again? | 15:31 |
| Stskeeps | fms something? | 15:31 |
| jott | Stskeeps: google packrat maemo :) | 15:32 |
| Stskeeps | ta | 15:32 |
| GNUton | Mek: I wanted to know something about CMake and qemu cvs.. but it'snt fixed yet. :/ | 15:39 |
| GNUton | Mek: At moment I think that a fast solution is to force the compilation with the Qt maemo0 packages.. | 15:39 |
| GNUton | this is a workaround | 15:40 |
| GNUton | but we need to report the bug to the scratchbox devs | 15:40 |
| Mek | yeah, completely agree | 15:41 |
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| GNUton | Mek: by the way.. how is going your plasma port? I want to port Marble with GPS and Open streetmap support. | 15:46 |
| Mek | I haven't really had time yet to do anything but compiling/packaging kde stuff; no maemo specific changes yet. but marble runs quite well, although I haven't tried gps support yet (http://kde.garage.maemo.org/screenshots_kdeedu.html#marble) | 15:48 |
| Mek | s/runs quite well/crashes unless you remove some data files/ :) | 15:48 |
| Mek | but that crash might just be some unlucky revision I picked | 15:48 |
| Mek | ah, no... the crash is because it tries to read qreal's from a binary file... that should probably be doubles :) | 15:52 |
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| lopz | hola | 17:18 |
| inz | qué tal? | 17:18 |
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| lopz | inz, aquí, levantando de cama xD | 17:30 |
| lopz | y tu ? | 17:30 |
| crashanddie | lopz, this ain't #maemo-es, so english please ;) | 17:40 |
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| inz | lopz, sorry, don't actually speak spanish ;) | 17:42 |
| inz | lopz, but I'm fine ;) | 17:42 |
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| lopz | crashanddie, ok, you speak spanish ? | 17:49 |
| lopz | inz, cool | 17:50 |
| crashanddie | lopz, hardly, other than ordering a beer and asking for directions | 17:50 |
| crashanddie | Por donde se va a La Jonquera? | 17:51 |
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| * lcuk gestures for beer n has gps and a map for directions | 17:54 | |
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| crashanddie | lcuk, hagame de hablar mas despacio | 17:56 |
| lcuk | ein beer bitter | 17:56 |
| lcuk | though this time i was a little better | 17:56 |
| GNUton | lcuk: no alcool! :P | 17:57 |
| lcuk | heh | 17:57 |
| GNUton | there are some stupid teenager under my windows... they are drinking.. singing... I'll kill them in a couple of seconds if they don't go away!! | 17:59 |
| GNUton | W plurals! :P | 17:59 |
| GNUton | At the end they will leave their garbage on the ground... :( | 18:00 |
| crashanddie | Windows always attract shit you don't want | 18:00 |
| GNUton | crashanddie: what's the spanish name.. "Buttiglion"? | 18:01 |
| crashanddie | eh? | 18:01 |
| GNUton | crashanddie: usually in Spain the guys walk and drink... The bring with them a lot of beer and wine.. | 18:02 |
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| crashanddie | GNUton, I'm not the spanish guy | 18:02 |
| GNUton | crashanddie: ah ok! : | 18:02 |
| GNUton | :P | 18:02 |
| crashanddie | GNUton, you probably mean Botellons anyway | 18:03 |
| crashanddie | botellones** | 18:03 |
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| RST38h | PING 1223133420 | 18:17 |
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| GNUton | crashanddie: yes! :) that's right | 18:17 |
| GNUton | netsplit!! | 18:17 |
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| crashanddie | GNUton, I loved a few miles from Spain for a few odd years, so yeah, I know a few things about Spain, but if you want real info, ask lopz | 18:19 |
| crashanddie | hey qgil, how's it going? | 18:19 |
| lopz | eh ? | 18:20 |
| lopz | xD | 18:20 |
| GNUton | lopz == lopez?? | 18:20 |
| lopz | not | 18:20 |
| GNUton | a ok :) | 18:21 |
| lopz | yes yes | 18:21 |
| lopz | López | 18:21 |
| lopz | mi name.. Jorge López | 18:21 |
| crashanddie | Jorge ;) | 18:21 |
| lopz | my* | 18:21 |
| GNUton | El nombre del gatto... (Ska P) | 18:21 |
| lopz | :\ | 18:21 |
| lopz | gatto ? | 18:21 |
| crashanddie | Jorge J Lopez C? | 18:21 |
| lopz | yep | 18:21 |
| crashanddie | what do J & C stand for? | 18:21 |
| lopz | Jorge Jaime López Cerón :D | 18:21 |
| crashanddie | nice | 18:22 |
| GNUton | gatto is cat in italian.. I don't remember the tranlation of cat in spanish | 18:22 |
| lopz | haha | 18:22 |
| lopz | and you crashanddie ' | 18:22 |
| crashanddie | lopz, Sebastiaan Roger André Nicholias Alexander Lauwers | 18:22 |
| lopz | GNUton, cat == gato, not gatto | 18:22 |
| GNUton | ah ok! :) In italian cat == gatto :) | 18:22 |
| lopz | wow.. large | 18:22 |
| crashanddie | crash in short | 18:22 |
| lopz | you name is large | 18:22 |
| crashanddie | yeah it is... Posh family | 18:23 |
| crashanddie | which is nice, because I have a different name for every (working) day in the week :) | 18:23 |
| crashanddie | lopz, where you from in Spain? | 18:23 |
| lopz | crashanddie, not, my country is Bolivia, city Santa Cruz de la Sierra | 18:24 |
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| crashanddie | oh, ok | 18:24 |
| lopz | and you ? | 18:24 |
| crashanddie | I used to live in Catalunya, southern France | 18:25 |
| qgil | crashanddie: well, I was hoping to find timsamoff here... | 18:25 |
| crashanddie | qgil, hmm, haven't seen him in here lately, I think he's reserving his typing for emails | 18:25 |
| qgil | crashanddie: you in "Catalunya, southern France"? that's a surprise | 18:26 |
| crashanddie | qgil, I moved to London 2 months ago | 18:26 |
| crashanddie | and why is it surprising for me to be in catalunya? | 18:26 |
| qgil | where exactly were you before? | 18:26 |
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| crashanddie | Saleilles, right next to Perpignan | 18:26 |
| qgil | ah, Salelles ;) | 18:27 |
| crashanddie | qgil, no shit, you know the area? | 18:28 |
| qgil | I was living in Girona 7 years, so... | 18:28 |
| crashanddie | wow | 18:28 |
| crashanddie | nice | 18:28 |
| crashanddie | lived in Saleilles for 8 years :) | 18:28 |
| qgil | I went to Perpinyà to buy cheaper comic books from Moebius and etc | 18:29 |
| RST38h | moo all | 18:29 |
| crashanddie | yeah yeah | 18:29 |
| qgil | many teams | 18:29 |
| qgil | many times | 18:29 |
| crashanddie | qgil, I played with the Dragons ;) | 18:29 |
| qwerty12 | hey RST38h, thanks for uploading Emutools | 18:29 |
| RST38h | Motorola To Hire 300 Android Developers | 18:29 |
| qgil | also rugby? | 18:30 |
| RST38h | qwerty: You are welcome. Do they work? | 18:30 |
| qwerty12 | RST38h, No idea, no working tablet atm :) | 18:30 |
| * RST38h wonders if Android can really save Motorola | 18:30 | |
| RST38h | oh | 18:30 |
| RST38h | qwerty: I have got a wquestion | 18:30 |
| qgil | I played 3 games or so with the GEiEG rugby, but someone found my Achilles and that was it | 18:30 |
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| crashanddie | qgil, ouch | 18:30 |
| RST38h | Yesterday installation of BOS Wars and FreeCiv made me enable paging to internal flash card in N810 | 18:31 |
| qgil | crashanddie: how you got to the Dragons? | 18:31 |
| RST38h | I am a little bit fidgety about what this will do the card wearout | 18:31 |
| crashanddie | qgil, nha, I was a junior, until a bad melee ripped my knee | 18:31 |
| GAN800 | qgil, I haven't been able to coerce Tim to idle here as much as I'd like yet. ;) | 18:31 |
| RST38h | What is the current popular opinion on this? Should I disable it? | 18:31 |
| crashanddie | qgil, started out in Canet, played for 2 years, a scout noticed me | 18:31 |
| crashanddie | RST38h, hiring in London? :-° | 18:31 |
| qwerty12 | RST38h, No idea sorry, I'm not really sure about wearing issues. You can move the swap file to external card if you wish though | 18:32 |
| GAN800 | RST38h, don't worry about it. | 18:32 |
| qgil | crashanddie: so you are born in el Rosselló? | 18:32 |
| RST38h | crash: More like Bombay I think :) | 18:32 |
| RST38h | qwerty: How? | 18:32 |
| RST38h | GAN: sure? | 18:32 |
| crashanddie | qgil, not at all, I'm from Belgium originally | 18:32 |
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| RST38h | crash: Ask yourself if you really wanna be a Java developer =) | 18:32 |
| qgil | crashanddie: I se, that is a nice corner of the world | 18:32 |
| crashanddie | RST38h, at this point, I'd develop anything to get a job | 18:33 |
| GAN800 | Swappiness is about as low as possible and flash cards are about as durable as can be these days. | 18:33 |
| crashanddie | RST38h, tuesday I have an interview for a job that will consist of... Converting Windows desktops apps to Linux/Mac | 18:33 |
| crashanddie | RST38h, that should tell you how desperate I am | 18:33 |
| qwerty12 | RST38h, You may just be able to move the .swap file from mmc2 to mmc1. Based on my (limited) reading of ke-recv sources, ke-recv should automatically enable on either card the .swap file is present on. If that doesn't work, write a quick script in init.d to swapon /media/mmc1/.swap | 18:33 |
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| * lcuk would gladly give you a job if he was in a position to :) | 18:34 | |
| crashanddie | I cook very wel | 18:34 |
| crashanddie | well** | 18:34 |
| lcuk | do you clean as well? :P | 18:34 |
| qwerty12 | I can order takeaway, does that count as cooking? | 18:34 |
| crashanddie | qgil, yeah, I'm happy I lived in Catalunya for a while, it has certainly built my character, though, I'm quite happy to be out of France, finally | 18:34 |
| qgil | crashanddie: is there any URL to see what you do? | 18:35 |
| crashanddie | lcuk, I'll do your dishes for a fiver :P | 18:35 |
| crashanddie | what I do? | 18:35 |
| qgil | crashanddie: information useful for someone to hire you | 18:35 |
| crashanddie | qgil, http://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastianlauwers | 18:36 |
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| qgil | crashanddie: have you checked the open positions in Maemo? | 18:37 |
| crashanddie | not lately, aren't most of them based in northern europe? | 18:37 |
| qgil | mmm yes, some of them might go to California - but if I were you I would try anyway | 18:38 |
| qgil | if you're good and you like Maemo and you are looking for a job is not bad that the Maemo team knows about you | 18:38 |
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| lcuk | qgil, something to make you smile and ponder: http://liqbase.net/liqriver.php | 18:39 |
| qgil | and you just said you were "desperately" looking for a job... | 18:39 |
| crashanddie | qgil, I have already applied to a few positions (via Nokia's Taleo), never had an answer. I think my lack of experience is the thing that scares a lot of HR | 18:39 |
| qgil | could be, dunno | 18:40 |
| qgil | lcuk: browsers supported? | 18:40 |
| lcuk | god knows - its extremely tempremental home written svg | 18:41 |
| lcuk | just to see if the idea will work | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | ah, svg plugin needed? | 18:41 |
| RST38h | qwerty: thanks, will try | 18:41 |
| lcuk | if thats what you need to view svg yeah - someone could take the svg on the webserver and convert to png | 18:41 |
| RST38h | GAN: Understoof | 18:41 |
| RST38h | crash: Don't get too desperate, you will find a job sooner or later | 18:42 |
| qgil | lcuk: I see several static images and no apparent links, is there any kind of move or interactions? | 18:42 |
| lcuk | no qgil :) its my first ever cave painting | 18:42 |
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| lcuk | on the device the sketches are uploadable - of course 2 way interaction will be prefered | 18:42 |
| qgil | ah, I see | 18:43 |
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| lcuk | catch you later qgil, crashanddie | 18:44 |
| crashanddie | lcuk, take care guv | 18:44 |
| RST38h | moo lcuk | 18:44 |
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| qgil | alright, see you! crashanddie: best luck | 18:54 |
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| * Stskeeps strikes dm-loop off his todo list, all done | 19:10 | |
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| * Stskeeps wonders if there's a curse over people getting debian on 770 | 19:15 | |
| Stskeeps | electrocuting 770, corrupted SD.. | 19:15 |
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| dmsuperman988 | I have a bluetooth keyboard | 21:13 |
| dmsuperman988 | I enable it and use it, and all is well | 21:13 |
| dmsuperman988 | However, sometimes I wish to use my virtual keyboard without opening my bluetooth keyboard | 21:13 |
| dmsuperman988 | What's the easiest way to tell it to use virtual keyboard without unpairing bluetooth? | 21:14 |
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| dmsuperman988 | *knock knock* | 21:19 |
| dmsuperman988 | Anybody here? | 21:19 |
| Stskeeps | i'm around but don't have a bluetooth kbd | 21:20 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:20 |
| RST38h | yes? | 21:20 |
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| dmsuperman988 | Darn | 21:23 |
| dmsuperman988 | I can't figure it out | 21:23 |
| dmsuperman988 | I just can't enable my virtual keyboard without reconnecting my bluetooth kbd | 21:24 |
| dmsuperman988 | And then disconnecting it again | 21:24 |
| dmsuperman988 | That usually fixes it | 21:24 |
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| Komzpa | I've set a usb network connection from my n800 from console. How can I tell the applications that I'm online? | 22:34 |
| Jaffa | A "Dummy" IAP | 22:34 |
| Jaffa | Komzpa: https://wiki.maemo.org/USB_networking#Tablet_USB_network_configuration | 22:36 |
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| Komzpa | Jaffa: thanks | 22:38 |
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| woglinde | re | 22:41 |
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| kpel | that's a useful url Jaffa. cool! | 22:41 |
| woglinde | Komzpa but be aware there are chipsets where usbnet doesnot work | 22:41 |
| woglinde | I have one at work | 22:41 |
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| Komzpa | woglinde: I've got a working connection, even ssh'ed to the tablet, but browser and friends stil think i'm offline and offer me to connect through gprs. | 22:45 |
| mavhc | is there a list of live video streams that work with Video Center? | 22:46 |
| crashanddie | Mardi I cast you out ! | 22:48 |
| crashanddie | mardi__, Leave now, for my wrath will quickly kindle | 22:48 |
| crashanddie | As I have no other which, but to see your life time out, second by second | 22:48 |
| crashanddie | wish? | 22:49 |
| crashanddie | anyway | 22:49 |
| crashanddie | BEGONE ! | 22:50 |
| woglinde | Komzpa yes the icd does not know about usbnet | 22:51 |
| Stskeeps | http://trac.tspre.org/projects/deblet/wiki <- did a new wiki, any comments? | 22:56 |
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| Jaffa | Stskeeps: anyone played with maximus and the panel window title/switcher from Ubuntu Netbook Remix? | 22:59 |
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| Stskeeps | Jaffa: hmm, no, but that sounds interesting, got an url? | 22:59 |
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| Jaffa | Let me look | 22:59 |
| Stskeeps | video is okay too :P | 23:00 |
| Stskeeps | or scrshot | 23:00 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/ubuntu_netbook_remix_detailed_explanation shows details & screenshot of maximus & window-picker-applet | 23:00 |
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| Jaffa | http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/files/www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/nodes/2888/two.jpg - specifically | 23:00 |
| jaska | department of redundancy department url | 23:01 |
| Stskeeps | Jaffa: that's a interesting way to do task switching, yeah | 23:01 |
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| Jaffa | https://edge.launchpad.net/~netbook-remix-team/+archive has source debs | 23:01 |
| Jaffa | Also works as a nice simple UI on Jaffa Jr's 1024x768 ThinkPad :) | 23:02 |
| Stskeeps | added to todo to look at | 23:04 |
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| AStorm | RST38h: you wanted something? | 23:37 |
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| RST38h | AStorm: Possibly. But I no longer remember what =( | 23:41 |
| AStorm | got some ctcp ping from you | 23:42 |
| RST38h | ah, that one...there was a split so I was checking who was still alive | 23:42 |
| AStorm | mhm | 23:43 |
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| RST38h | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2008/10/L1010485.JPG | 23:52 |
| RST38h | So they finally installed the full OSX on an iPhone! | 23:53 |
| RST38h | [ok, very large iphone] | 23:53 |
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