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cyrus__ | installed gainroot and add the following to my sudoers files: cyrus ALL = PASSWD: /usr/sbin/gainroot | 00:39 |
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cyrus__ | cyrus is a local user I made, however when I type sudoers gainroot it asks for the root passwd, which I supply correctly, but it says invalid | 00:39 |
mgedmin | it doesn't ask for the root pwd | 00:41 |
mgedmin | it asks for the cyrus pwd | 00:41 |
mgedmin | because you put the 'PASSWD:' in your /etc/sudoers | 00:42 |
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cyrus__ | mgedmin - oh...i am stupid...is there a way to have it ask for the root passwd? | 00:45 |
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mgedmin | no | 00:46 |
mgedmin | that's the point of sudo: it never asks for the root pw | 00:46 |
mgedmin | sounds like you want su | 00:46 |
cyrus__ | mgedmin - ok. What if I want to implement something similiar to logging on and doing su - | 00:46 |
cyrus__ | exactly | 00:46 |
cyrus__ | but if I run su - | 00:46 |
cyrus__ | ti says something about applet requires root privileges | 00:46 |
mgedmin | ah, right | 00:47 |
mgedmin | because it's the busybox su | 00:47 |
mgedmin | and busybox is not suid-root on maemo | 00:47 |
cyrus__ | mgedmin - k. is there a package out there that supplies su | 00:48 |
mgedmin | no idea | 00:48 |
mgedmin | why do you need it? | 00:48 |
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cyrus__ | well I am just trying to setup some additional security. I have SSH enabled with norootlogins | 00:49 |
cyrus__ | however, if someone figures out my regular user password | 00:49 |
cyrus__ | they basically have root, since they just run sudo gainroot | 00:50 |
cyrus__ | and don't have to supply the root passwd | 00:50 |
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mgedmin | yes | 00:52 |
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Prez00 | hello.. | 01:15 |
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Prez00 | I see latest firmware is out, but cannot find it at regular download site, any other place? the online update did not work for me... | 01:15 |
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mavhc | I like the way the windows updater says: remove the power cable, now wait 30 mins for the update to download | 01:16 |
gomiam | mavhc: unless you tell it to get it from somewhere in the harddisk | 01:17 |
mavhc | but at least switch those 2 things around | 01:18 |
Prez00 | so, any ideas where I can get latest firmware for manual flash? | 01:23 |
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gomiam | mmm.. there used to be a site...http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N800.php | 01:28 |
gomiam | you'll just need your WiFi card MAC | 01:28 |
gomiam | (available underneath the battery, for example) | 01:29 |
mavhc | is there a reason serial numbers are often under the battery? | 01:31 |
mgedmin | control panel -> device -> about | 01:31 |
Prez00 | gomiam: yep, i went there, the update is not there.. | 01:31 |
mgedmin | no need for battery pulling | 01:32 |
Prez00 | and i tried installing directly using app manager, now have the update with exclamation mark | 01:32 |
gomiam | mgedmin: oh XD I forgot. I usually just /sbin/ifconfig -a wlan0 XD | 01:32 |
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Prez00 | ok, anyone got the flash image for 4.2008.36-5 on them? | 01:44 |
gomiam | not me | 01:49 |
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Prez00 | this is weird, now the wiki for how to flash using linux is gone.. | 01:57 |
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mgedmin | merged somewhere probably | 02:05 |
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liri | any expert on postgresql around? | 02:06 |
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gregorovius | what's the best size for canola cover files? could anyone check theirs and tell me? | 05:09 |
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GeneralAntilles | Crap | 05:46 |
GeneralAntilles | Wiki's in ro | 05:46 |
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lopz | night | 05:55 |
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gregorovius | Jaffa: is there any chance some subtitle support could be added to tablet-encode? basically just detect if there's a .srt or .sub with the same name as the avi and pass some parameters to mencoder. I really don't understand perl enough to do it myself, but maybe with some pointers... | 05:59 |
gregorovius | I get the 'push @params' part, and I'd know pretty much what to pass, but I don't know how to add the subtitle detection logic | 06:03 |
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gregorovius | I have to go, but actually only 1 line is needed: push @params, '-sub', 'subfile.srt'; ... the default settings look pretty well, at least with the 'best' setting | 06:34 |
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tekojo | Morning | 08:28 |
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Ave | hi. is there a way to make the ctrl key sticky in n810 like shift and fn are? | 08:36 |
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gnuton | Ave: you need to change the code of the Hildon Input Method | 08:49 |
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gnuton | Ave: you need to change both HIM framework and Main HIM UI | 08:50 |
Ave | at source level? | 08:55 |
Ave | ie changing the rx44 xkb defs does noot do it? | 08:56 |
Ave | cant find any defs for shift nor fn atleast | 08:56 |
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AStorm | hmm | 09:08 |
AStorm | I just had a crash of diablo | 09:08 |
AStorm | as in, full reboot | 09:08 |
AStorm | which means one of the watchdogs triggered | 09:08 |
AStorm | wifi was active, wpa2-psk connection, browser was opened | 09:09 |
AStorm | the device was connected to charger | 09:10 |
AStorm | background processes: mail checker, omweather, clock | 09:12 |
AStorm | desktop was visible | 09:12 |
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AStorm | bluetooth was inactive | 09:14 |
qwerty12 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Reporting_reboot_issues . But in all honesty, shit happens. I'd be surprised if there wasn't a day where I didn't take out my battey (I keep watchdog disabled) | 09:15 |
AStorm | well, for me it's very rare | 09:15 |
AStorm | and I keep the device almost always on and use it heavily | 09:16 |
AStorm | qwerty12: obviously the reason was 32wd_to | 09:23 |
AStorm | which means watchdog | 09:23 |
qwerty12 | I'd place a bet on the kernel crash. browserd is a cpu eater but I've never experienced an restart from it. you don't happen to be running ksyslogd? | 09:25 |
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Ave | I've had only one occasion where I had to remove the battey feom my 810 | 09:26 |
qwerty12 | When I got my N800, the battery was in so tight that I would use a knife to get it out. Now, even my fingers work. | 09:27 |
AStorm | qwertz12: not yet, i's a fairly fresh diablo | 09:27 |
AStorm | qwerty12: heh, I tended to use a zen slap to get the battery out | 09:28 |
qwerty12 | hehe | 09:28 |
* qwerty12 bitch slaps webkit, I keep doing dodgy things for it to compile | 09:29 | |
AStorm | I have 2 in 32wd_to, hmm | 09:29 |
AStorm | didn't notice any other reboot... | 09:30 |
AStorm | an wait | 09:31 |
AStorm | dduring flashing, one :P (my giving wrong options to the flasher) | 09:31 |
AStorm | btw, Version: 4.2008.36-5 | 09:32 |
AStorm | I see people get reboot loops with this | 09:34 |
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AStorm | btw, what is this EAC dsp item? | 09:36 |
AStorm | I meant eap | 09:37 |
qwerty12 | It's shit. It's only set to show if DEBUG is enabled in the kernel, but if you run a 2.6.21-omap1 kernel with DEBUG disabled, mce hangs on shutdown. I ended up commenting the eac lines to stop it from showing in kernel log | 09:38 |
qwerty12 | oh, eap | 09:38 |
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AStorm | aep that is | 09:40 |
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jaem | hello all | 09:41 |
AStorm | what is that aep dsp module? | 09:41 |
AStorm | (or should I get a disassembler and waste a day) | 09:41 |
AStorm | qwerty12: mce does work w/o debug: the problem is 2.6.21-omap bug | 09:42 |
AStorm | or rather, compiler bug | 09:43 |
jaem | I've been using Telepathy-haze for MSN on my N810 for a couple of weeks, and I've noticed that it doesn't allow me to initiate conversations through MSN - only receive them. I'm suspecting that this is because I use Google Talk on the N810, using the same e-mail address; when I try to start an MSN chat, it thinks it's Google Talk, tells me the remote contact is unauthorized, and bounces all messages... | 09:44 |
jaem | it works fine when I don't have a second account with the same address set up | 09:44 |
jaem | since haze is developed by someone else, I was unsure where I should file the bug. Can anyone tell me? | 09:45 |
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jaem | I'm not sure what component is causing the problem, and I don't have time to go through the sources (exams ><) | 09:45 |
AStorm | file a bug against the client and let them handle the component :> | 09:46 |
jaem | ok - thanks | 09:46 |
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jaem | also, any idea why the Nokia Catalogue (Diablo) updates repo requires a login? I didn't have that issue previously | 09:48 |
GeneralAntilles | Because there's stuff under license in there? | 09:49 |
jaem | fair enough, but it worked before | 09:50 |
jaem | as far as I recall | 09:50 |
GeneralAntilles | Before Diablo was released. | 09:50 |
GeneralAntilles | Way before. | 09:50 |
jaem | maybe I'm just crazy... it wouldn't be the first time :P | 09:50 |
jaem | so... is it possible to gain access to it, then? or is it restricted | 09:51 |
GeneralAntilles | Sure, but it doesn't provide directory listing. | 09:51 |
jaem | I just got my N810 two weeks ago, so I'm not quite up on everything | 09:51 |
jaem | how do I get credentials for it? | 09:51 |
GeneralAntilles | Check the apt patches on mxr.maemo.org for the password. | 09:52 |
jaem | thanks | 09:52 |
qwerty12 | http://mxr.maemo.org/diablo/source/apt-0.7.6maemo2/http-tablet- identification.patch | 09:52 |
qwerty12 | http://mxr.maemo.org/diablo/source/apt-0.7.6maemo2/http-tablet-identification.patch | 09:52 |
qwerty12 | Because you can't browse the directory, what I do is grab the Packages file | 09:53 |
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jaem | @General: you'll have to excuse me, but I still don't quite follow... | 09:59 |
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Ave | gnuton: ok I believe I got it, hacking the hildon-input (framework) sources | 10:14 |
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RST38h | boo | 10:22 |
RST38h | qwerty | 10:22 |
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Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:46 |
RST38h | moo, Jaffa | 10:54 |
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Mikho | would anybody know if it's possible to clone or serialize a gtk widget? | 11:18 |
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Stskeeps | morn | 12:25 |
lcuk | hi sts :) | 12:25 |
* lcuk had not much sleep again | 12:25 | |
lcuk | are there any combined php + svg gods in the channel. i have a small thing that I spent some time struggling with and could do with some guidance. liqbase sketch files into simple svg files on my webserver. i can give base code that i've started and examples and layouts of the files needed if anyone can help | 12:28 |
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lcuk | pm me if you think you can. | 12:30 |
* lcuk gets on with tps reports \@/ | 12:31 | |
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thux | Stskeeps: tried lxde-env got same errors http://pastebin.com/m1af9962b | 12:55 |
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Stskeeps | thux: did you use Dialog or GTK? | 13:07 |
thux | dialog | 13:08 |
Stskeeps | hm. | 13:08 |
Stskeeps | i guess something went wrong in tablet-user | 13:08 |
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Stskeeps | it's a bit of a work in progress right now :) | 13:08 |
thux | i understand | 13:08 |
Stskeeps | thux: if you can isolate the error in tablet-user that'd be wonderful | 13:09 |
Stskeeps | i guess you make sure you make a fresh ext3 on the partition, right? | 13:09 |
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thux | this installer is quit now but in sd card is what it installed | 13:10 |
Stskeeps | ok | 13:10 |
thux | where logs? | 13:10 |
Stskeeps | it doesn't really log that well yet | 13:10 |
Stskeeps | try chroot /mnt/deblet apt-get install tablet-user | 13:10 |
thux | ok | 13:10 |
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Stskeeps | (i guess you didn't reboot since then, .. i hope) | 13:11 |
thux | no | 13:12 |
Stskeeps | (paste me what apt-get install tablet-user shows, on pastebin) | 13:17 |
thux | Stskeeps: it first said it is newest but then configured it is it now ready to reboot? | 13:18 |
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Stskeeps | it succeeded in configuring? .. | 13:18 |
Stskeeps | can i see the pastebin of it? | 13:19 |
thux | yes only locale complaints | 13:19 |
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Stskeeps | no, not ready to reboot yet sadly | 13:19 |
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Stskeeps | did it during the process ask you about Tablet user real name and username and password and such? | 13:20 |
thux | yes before installer failed | 13:20 |
Stskeeps | besides the password, what did you put as answers? | 13:21 |
thux | user | 13:21 |
thux | no real name | 13:21 |
Stskeeps | ok, that might have been the problem | 13:21 |
Stskeeps | can you do chroot /mnt/deblet debconf-show tablet-user | 13:22 |
Stskeeps | change your password to *** and pastebin it | 13:22 |
GeneralAntilles | Yeesh http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3767 | 13:22 |
* GeneralAntilles hadn't realized he needed to bring out the kid gloves for that one. | 13:22 | |
thux | i try | 13:23 |
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Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: hmm | 13:23 |
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GeneralAntilles | Wiki and planet are down. Here's to hoping it's a server move. . . . | 13:52 |
Jaffa | yeah | 13:54 |
RST38h | It is the end of the world. | 13:58 |
RST38h | HE started with the transatlantic cable as an appetizer. | 13:58 |
GeneralAntilles | RST38h, the nukes went off in the wiki server. | 13:59 |
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JamieBennett | planet is working for me | 14:03 |
GeneralAntilles | Apparently it's back up. | 14:03 |
JamieBennett | :D | 14:03 |
JamieBennett | but is it faster? | 14:03 |
GeneralAntilles | . . . and feels a helluva lot faster. | 14:03 |
JamieBennett | yup | 14:04 |
JamieBennett | :D | 14:04 |
RST38h | They pulled out Nokia 7710 from the closet and replaced the 770 with it? | 14:04 |
JamieBennett | planet is so much faster, weeeeeeee | 14:05 |
lcuk | stop the planet, i wanna get off! | 14:05 |
lcuk | hi JamieBennett | 14:06 |
* RST38h goes to check: let us see how it fares after I log in | 14:06 | |
JamieBennett | Hi lcuk :) | 14:06 |
RST38h | lCuK | 14:06 |
JamieBennett | https is still a little slow though | 14:06 |
Jaffa | JamieBennett: how much did you end up paying for your Beagleboard/ | 14:06 |
RST38h | Once you log in it is still slow =( | 14:06 |
RST38h | No, no bagel this time | 14:06 |
JamieBennett | I replied to your comment but to cut a long story short about £105 | 14:06 |
* lcuk cant afford a beagleboard or a pandora :( | 14:07 | |
RST38h | lcuk: let us just save for N9x0 | 14:07 |
JamieBennett | I have a serial cable coming from ebay now as its one of them 10 pin header jobbies | 14:07 |
Jaffa | JamieBennett: hey, that's not bad. Is that just some special discount? | 14:07 |
RST38h | 'cause the first is a devkit and the second is vapor =) | 14:07 |
* Jaffa reads JamieBennett's blog comment | 14:08 | |
JamieBennett | Jaffa: No, £89 delivered + £15.46 import duty | 14:08 |
Jaffa | Shame I've <0 money. | 14:08 |
JamieBennett | So about £105 | 14:08 |
GeneralAntilles | It was $195 here. | 14:08 |
GeneralAntilles | With a power adaptor | 14:08 |
lcuk | lol RST38h yeah right, where do saving come from | 14:08 |
RST38h | lcuk: you have still got two kidneys, haven't you? =) | 14:08 |
* lcuk hasn't got a moneytree | 14:08 | |
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lcuk | PMSL | 14:09 |
lcuk | hang on, thats actually a possibility - they pay more for young healthy organs dont they :D | 14:09 |
* lcuk dreams up imaginary ideas of auctioning off his kids | 14:09 | |
RST38h | lcuk: children!!! | 14:09 |
RST38h | great minds think alike | 14:09 |
RST38h | lcuk: Or you can sell off some secret gov documents you have found in the subway | 14:10 |
RST38h | Isn't it going to be a classic UK story glorified by Sherlock Holmes novels? | 14:11 |
lcuk | i only found people playing games on old pdas, no gov docs :( | 14:11 |
RST38h | shit | 14:11 |
JamieBennett | Jaffa: Got as far as making sure the leds light up with the BB but no further. Really need a serial cable and a whole lot of time. I'll have more of a play tonight, I'm determined to get some bling on it (I even have a touch screen here to attach :)) | 14:11 |
GeneralAntilles | Make sure you get the correct serial cable. | 14:12 |
Jaffa | JamieBennett: :) | 14:12 |
JamieBennett | GeneralAntilles: Its the 10 pin header jobbies. Ordered from ebay. | 14:12 |
Stskeeps | lcuk: should set up a donation paypal for liqbase :P | 14:12 |
lcuk | JamieBennett, the general is right, so go to his blog and read his notes and then do the opposite ;) | 14:12 |
lcuk | yes stskeeps i should :) | 14:13 |
GeneralAntilles | Make sure it's a straight-through adaptor 1-1, 2-2, 3-3, etc. | 14:13 |
lcuk | but i dunno how to do that, im not a webman | 14:13 |
Stskeeps | lcuk: it's pretty simple afaik.. sec | 14:13 |
GeneralAntilles | JamieBennett, just be careful if you decide to flash a new u-boot and xloader onto NAND. | 14:13 |
lcuk | GeneralAntilles, !!! time to finally bring your stylish interface into play | 14:13 |
JamieBennett | Its recoverable though from what I read | 14:13 |
GeneralAntilles | Personally, I'd recommend just booting off ones on the card. | 14:13 |
GeneralAntilles | JamieBennett, yeah, well. | 14:13 |
GeneralAntilles | lcuk, content? | 14:14 |
JamieBennett | Have you posted your finding with the BB on your blog? | 14:14 |
GeneralAntilles | Or just so you can fill it with PayPal buttons? :P | 14:14 |
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lcuk | uh huh - im about half a coding day from first package :) so yes | 14:14 |
lcuk | lol | 14:14 |
GeneralAntilles | JamieBennett, my only blog is maemo.org/community/council :P | 14:14 |
JamieBennett | :( | 14:14 |
GeneralAntilles | JamieBennett, I have learned quite a bit along the way, so let me know if you run into any roadblocks. ;) | 14:15 |
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lcuk | by the end of the weekend i hope to have the first package at least in extras dev, its quite nice now | 14:15 |
GeneralAntilles | The wiki pages on elinux.org are pretty good, though. | 14:15 |
Stskeeps | lcuk: merchant services -> "Donations", and there's a nice guide | 14:15 |
JamieBennett | General Antilles: If you have notes then please send them my way, I'll still reading the documentation on beagleboard.org | 14:15 |
Stskeeps | / wizard | 14:15 |
lcuk | and there was a guy at the summit showing off an SVG customizable VKB - ive just hit him up and see if he wants to bring some of his greatness in to make the keyboard work well | 14:16 |
GeneralAntilles | JamieBennett, only two lines of bootargs, unfortunately. | 14:16 |
lcuk | Stskeeps, am i a merchant? i think we have a palpal account - tracy keeps gettin shoes from ebay so i assume so | 14:16 |
Stskeeps | lcuk: there's no startup fees afaik so | 14:17 |
GeneralAntilles | JamieBennett, RST38h, part of the https slowness is because it's not cached. | 14:17 |
Stskeeps | lcuk: i can recommend it atleast, we've gotten quite a bit of donations in my other project :P | 14:17 |
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lcuk | oh cripes, ill go through it during the weekend, :) "live" sketching now works and from the special new screen will automatically try to upload your sketch to liqbase.net. i started coding .liqsketch -> svg in php last night but it needs some more work | 14:18 |
JamieBennett | GeneralAntilles: Yes | 14:18 |
GeneralAntilles | Stskeeps, can we push the same initfs image for both the N800 and N810? | 14:18 |
Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: i think so, fanoush's only patch based on initfs version | 14:19 |
Stskeeps | and in latest update he only updated one version / file | 14:19 |
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RST38h | General: This is a dummy reason | 14:20 |
RST38h | General: Of course it is not cached: it has to process requests for dynamic content | 14:20 |
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lcuk_urg | did real me fall out? | 14:20 |
Jaffa | Nope | 14:20 |
GeneralAntilles | RST38h, http is faster because it's cached. | 14:20 |
RST38h | General: The real question is why the system that provides dynamic content (Midgard?) is so damn slow? | 14:20 |
lcuk_urg | hmmm vnc at home has stopped responding | 14:20 |
lcuk_urg | hope the house hasnt burnt down | 14:21 |
Stskeeps | lcuk: no ping response | 14:21 |
GeneralAntilles | Because it's on a slow server. | 14:21 |
GeneralAntilles | Stskeeps, do you want to start thinking about a .deb deployment? | 14:21 |
RST38h | Why is it STILL on a slow server? | 14:21 |
RST38h | It takes <$2000 to get a server nowadays | 14:21 |
Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: i can think of it but i think we should have fanoush in over it | 14:21 |
lcuk_urg | Stskeeps: heh, i gathered that much | 14:21 |
GeneralAntilles | RST38h, presumably because they're still working on the changeover. | 14:21 |
Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: diversity in boot menus already cause problems (penguinbait's, fanoush's, my set.. etc) | 14:22 |
GeneralAntilles | Stskeeps, hehe, add another item to the end of his list? ;) | 14:22 |
RST38h | General: Well, my guess is that the server is not to blame here | 14:22 |
Stskeeps | he's more than open to people helping out | 14:22 |
Stskeeps | i have bootmenu svn access so | 14:22 |
GeneralAntilles | Nah, that sounds good. | 14:22 |
RST38h | General: It is Midgard to blame and somebody should at least check just what database queries it is making | 14:22 |
GeneralAntilles | Whenever rm_you gets active again I'm going to accost him with plans for a GUI bootmenu control panel. | 14:23 |
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RST38h | General: Example: SELECT random_shit FROM USERS WHERE NAME=login | 14:23 |
RST38h | General: nice looking query that will be dog slow if your USERS have not been indexed by NAME | 14:24 |
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Stskeeps | lcuk's burning house is back online! | 14:24 |
Stskeeps | :p | 14:24 |
Stskeeps | lcuk_urg: i wonder same thing when my home stops responding | 14:24 |
Stskeeps | :P | 14:24 |
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lcuk_urg | !!!! | 14:25 |
povbot | lcuk_urg: Error: "!!!" is not a valid command. | 14:25 |
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* lcuk3 is a pheonix | 14:25 | |
lcuk3 | or a phoenix outside of liqland | 14:26 |
lcuk3 | oh ffs i fail at life | 14:26 |
aquatix | why's that? | 14:26 |
GeneralAntilles | Well, duh. | 14:26 |
Stskeeps | lcuk3: some years ago when there was a server room fire at some uni in netherlands, people could watch temperature rising of their soon-to-be-burnt-to-death hds | 14:26 |
* aquatix stumbles in | 14:26 | |
Stskeeps | :P | 14:26 |
lcuk_urg | cos i can't spell :) | 14:26 |
lcuk_urg | lol sts | 14:26 |
RST38h | do you have to? | 14:26 |
aquatix | Stskeeps: heh, yeah | 14:27 |
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lcuk_urg | RST38h: yes its more self-facepalmish than anything cos i *know* things are wrong, i just cant type them correctly the first time | 14:27 |
RST38h | psychiatrists have a word for that. | 14:27 |
RST38h | [I don't remember which one. Psychiatrists have a word for THAT too.] | 14:28 |
lcuk_urg | in your case thats alzheimer's :P | 14:29 |
RST38h | Oh really? =) | 14:29 |
RST38h | COOL! | 14:29 |
Stskeeps | lcuk_urg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lp0_on_fire seems relevant at this point | 14:29 |
lcuk3 | heh | 14:30 |
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Veggen | Stskeeps: a year or two before I came here, there was a cooling system failure in the server room. the backup cooling sent excess heat out in the air. | 14:31 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 14:31 |
Veggen | Stskeeps: it started a grass fire on the outside of the building :) | 14:31 |
lcuk3 | back in a bit | 14:31 |
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Veggen | (and I think the fire destroyed the fiber to the building, too) | 14:32 |
Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: https://garage.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/bootmenu-devel btw | 14:35 |
Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: even if fremantle changes boot process, it's still far off.. it's just silly there's no real info on -what- changes | 14:36 |
Stskeeps | :P | 14:36 |
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Stskeeps | (.. and that statement came out of the blue. going drinking tonight - really sounds like a good idea) | 14:38 |
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Andy80 | hi all :) | 15:15 |
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lcuk3 | my god, has the internet stopped, ive never seen it so dead in here on an afternoon | 16:00 |
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Stskeeps | people are out drinking? | 16:03 |
Stskeeps | i know i will tonight | 16:03 |
johnx_ | just came from a drink :) | 16:03 |
lcuk | mmmmm drinking | 16:04 |
lcuk | that sounds like a really good idea :) i think ill go out on the lash tomorrow night after i push a package somewhere | 16:04 |
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johnx_ | pushing a package anywhere in particular? | 16:05 |
Ave | thanks, laters | 16:05 |
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lcuk | yer johnx, after a test with the people in #liqbase i will get it into extras-dev :) | 16:06 |
lcuk | its very nearly done now, ive covered everything i think i need at app side, its just garnish on the server needed | 16:07 |
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chrisak_ | i'm not able to spot any discussion on the via ITT search: after latest upgrade, browser right click menu is borked... cannnot open link in new window. Is this a common/known problem? | 16:26 |
johnx_ | chrisak_, I'll check here | 16:27 |
chrisak_ | thanks | 16:27 |
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johnx_ | works fine here | 16:28 |
johnx_ | is this on every page? | 16:28 |
chrisak_ | so far.... odd. the top two menu items are "Play..." | 16:29 |
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johnx_ | "Play"? | 16:30 |
johnx_ | that's not on my menu | 16:30 |
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johnx_ | did you install some extension? | 16:30 |
chrisak_ | nope, i've got a pretty straight forward setup.... nothing really different installed. in fact, everything else post upgrade is great | 16:31 |
chrisak_ | i get that odd right click menu even with google links on default start page, ITT site, everything page so far :/ | 16:32 |
johnx_ | What are the other options in the menu? | 16:33 |
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hrw | is there rotation x-server/kernel for diablo 36-5? | 16:36 |
chrisak_ | play..., play..., copy link location, zoom (sub menu), navigation (sub menu), details, and help | 16:36 |
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chrisak_ | browser works perfect otherwise | 16:37 |
chrisak_ | i get odd menu onliy when right clicking a link | 16:38 |
jott | hrw: http://outpo.st/rotate/ (.install does not work yet) | 16:39 |
johnx_ | chrisak_, so you get a normal menu when right clicking the background area of a web page? | 16:39 |
chrisak_ | it appears to be | 16:40 |
chrisak_ | adding bookmark, zooming, etc | 16:40 |
hrw | jott: thx | 16:41 |
chrisak_ | heh, i feel like a discovered a new species :) | 16:41 |
johnx_ | chrisak_, and what happens when you click "Play..."? | 16:42 |
chrisak_ | it tries to open the link in kmplayer | 16:43 |
johnx_ | hmmm... | 16:43 |
chrisak_ | the 2nd "play" tries to open link in default media player | 16:44 |
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johnx_ | now that's a lead :) | 16:44 |
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chrisak_ | its not a critical problem, just an oddity.... i 'open in new window' a lot.. Thankfully no serious problems... i'm backpacking in asia long term and rreflashing is not rreally an option :) | 16:46 |
johnx_ | if I had to guess, I'd bet it's connected to kmplayer | 16:47 |
johnx_ | do you have dbus-switchboard installed as well? | 16:47 |
chrisak_ | no | 16:47 |
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thux | Stskeeps: now it works, can i set resolution to same as diablo use? bit too small fonts to me | 16:48 |
chrisak_ | i uninstalled world tv and kmplayer... now i have 1 "play...." | 16:49 |
johnx_ | thux, the resolution is the same. set the font size in settings -> appearance | 16:49 |
chrisak_ | still no 'open link in new window' | 16:50 |
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johnx_ | chrisak_, O_o | 16:50 |
thux | johnx_: ok thanks | 16:50 |
johnx_ | chrisak_, you've discovered a new species. congratulations. :P | 16:50 |
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chrisak_ | yay, chris-bug.... if only that was the only bug i catch on this backpacking trip :) i will try to post about this in ITT soon and see if anyone else has this problem.... thanks for helping :) | 16:52 |
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johnx_ | chrisak_, sure. I searched ITT a little bit, but didn't find much. I hope you have better luck than me :) | 16:54 |
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hrw | jott: thx - it works :) | 16:55 |
hrw | too bad that software is hardcoded to 800x480 | 16:55 |
johnx_ | hrw, only hildon desktop is for the most part...and a couple other annoying apps | 16:56 |
hrw | control-panel | 16:56 |
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johnx_ | heh | 16:56 |
johnx_ | that too. it's layout gets slightly screwed up if you even change scroll bar size | 16:57 |
johnx_ | s/size/width | 16:57 |
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chrisak_ | parting thought: if anyone reading is interested in rss/podcast apps.... this PenguinTV app recently appearing (extras? develop? not sure which) is really neat | 16:58 |
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Stskeeps | how's hildlet going? | 17:00 |
Stskeeps | -> johnx | 17:01 |
johnx_ | Stskeeps, one thing at a time. :P first I'll package my sawfish hacks | 17:02 |
johnx_ | I want to stop thinking about those before I get into something else | 17:02 |
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johnx_ | chrisak_, awesome! thanks for the heads up | 17:03 |
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chrisak_ | welcome :) | 17:03 |
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yaayaa | hello | 17:08 |
yaayaa | is there anyone using pocketsphinx_continuous here ? | 17:09 |
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hrw | someone has maemo sdk and can build one thing for me? | 17:10 |
inz | hrw, can do | 17:13 |
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hrw | ah.. its C.. no way to declare vars in code.. | 17:14 |
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hrw | inz: http://blog.haerwu.biz/tmp/personal-menu-0.7-xrandr.tar.bz2 - can you try to build it? | 17:18 |
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dick-richardson | is it possible to configure the device to run a command after a network connection is established? | 17:27 |
qwerty12 | dbus-scripts | 17:27 |
woglinde | man ifup | 17:28 |
aquatix | anyone else has the new claws-mail segfaulting on them? | 17:30 |
aquatix | 3.6.0 shows a white window, then segfaults here | 17:30 |
johnx_ | woglinde, ifup isn't used on the tablet | 17:30 |
hrw | inz: does it builds at all? | 17:31 |
woglinde | johny for usbnet you can use it | 17:31 |
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inz | hrw, it has some missing build-dependencies | 17:31 |
woglinde | and he didnt say which inet connecntion | 17:31 |
hrw | inz: on libxrandr-dev basically | 17:31 |
johnx_ | woglinde, sorry, I just assumed | 17:31 |
inz | hrw, others too, but mainly that | 17:31 |
hrw | inz: I took it from garage and hacked xrandr into it | 17:32 |
qwerty12 | hrw: http://pastebin.com/d466ce3af | 17:33 |
hrw | thx | 17:34 |
hrw | s/display_name/NULL | 17:34 |
qwerty12 | Changed that, these errors still remain: http://pastebin.com/d29666b3e | 17:36 |
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robsta | hi | 17:36 |
inz | hrw, http://inz.fi/personal-menu_0.7-6_armel.deb | 17:36 |
robsta | i can't delete files from the internal mmc on my n810, is there anything i can do? | 17:36 |
hrw | gracuas | 17:37 |
inz | Added a int xscreen and replaced two screens with xscreen | 17:37 |
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dick-richardson | qwerty12: you're the man! | 17:39 |
hrw | hm. looks like patch needs to be done in other place | 17:40 |
woglinde | qwerty12 is that you code? | 17:41 |
woglinde | or you only try to compile? | 17:41 |
qwerty12 | woglinde: only trying to compile | 17:41 |
qwerty12 | it's hrw's code | 17:41 |
* qwerty12 can't code for shit :) | 17:41 | |
woglinde | qwerty hehe you could learn it | 17:41 |
hrw | its not my code - I just hacked it a bit | 17:41 |
woglinde | I learned it too | 17:41 |
qwerty12 | I'm more of a modder, I usually apply tiny modifications to other people's work :) | 17:42 |
dick-richardson | is the 'testing maemo extras' repository a replacement for maemo extras? | 17:42 |
johnx_ | nope, it's for potentially unstable software | 17:42 |
dick-richardson | so may not want it activated on a dist-upgrade | 17:43 |
dick-richardson | install what I need and disable it | 17:43 |
* qwerty12 wouldn't recommend an dist-upgrade on maemo in any circumstances | 17:43 | |
johnx_ | be very careful if you plan to do a dist-upgrade for some reason | 17:44 |
dick-richardson | I got the ssu that way...after a bit of work | 17:44 |
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dick-richardson | are you guys keeping your chinook repos active? | 17:48 |
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robsta | i hear that a read-only internal mmc is a known issue, is there a workaround for that? | 18:32 |
robsta | it's full an i can't delete anythin | 18:32 |
aquatix | this might be because it's corrupted | 18:32 |
aquatix | try checking it | 18:33 |
robtaylor | fsck.vfat | 18:33 |
RST38h | umgh | 18:33 |
robsta | oh, there's something "Read 32 bytes at 2022019072:Input/output error" | 18:34 |
robtaylor | robsta: hmm, fraid your mmc card may be foobared | 18:34 |
woglinde | hm | 18:34 |
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woglinde | yes seems so | 18:34 |
robsta | robtaylor: awesome, after like switching on like 10 times | 18:35 |
woglinde | maybe repartition and badblock cans work | 18:35 |
qwerty12 | robsta: Is it an N810 and are you using 48Mhz sd speed kernel? | 18:35 |
robsta | n810, latest software | 18:35 |
lcuk | more than likely its full partition and corrupt table thats hit | 18:35 |
* lcuk doesnt write onto his mmc2 anymore | 18:36 | |
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RST38h | lcuk: why? | 18:36 |
* qwerty12 always does. I have an N800 ;) | 18:36 | |
lcuk | the 810 shipped with an incorrectly formatted partition if i remember rightly | 18:36 |
RST38h | well, you can fix that by reformatting | 18:36 |
lcuk | it lies about total sectors so corrupts itself when it gets full | 18:36 |
bef0rd | robsta, as lcuk said, I had to repartition it too, so, backup your data, delete the partition and create it again | 18:37 |
lcuk | yer can do, but quite simply cant be arsed backing up and reformatting | 18:37 |
lcuk | its just maps :) | 18:37 |
RST38h | lcuk: Oh come on, you can redownload these maps and the UK maps are not very large anyway | 18:37 |
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* lcuk will invest time on the problem when it occurs, its enough to know it exists | 18:37 | |
RST38h | lcuk: And the rest you can easily copy to the external card | 18:38 |
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lcuk | no i cant | 18:38 |
RST38h | why? | 18:38 |
lcuk | external card==1gb | 18:38 |
woglinde | hehe | 18:38 |
woglinde | good to know is that there is solution | 18:38 |
robsta | could anyone help me out with repartitioning quickly? not done that in a long time | 18:38 |
RST38h | lcuk: Isn't it a reaosn enough to buy a new external card? | 18:38 |
qwerty12 | ^ | 18:38 |
Jaffa | *Some* N810s shipped with a broken partition table. | 18:38 |
lcuk | no, my 810 works perfectly and i develop happily on it - why rock the boat | 18:38 |
lcuk | im not gonna fuck around and waste time with it when i have more important things to do | 18:39 |
RST38h | Jaffa: ...although given the amount of reports, it is quite possible that "some"=="all" in marketing speech | 18:39 |
qwerty12 | lcuk: some say that using the built in file manager to reformat is enough | 18:39 |
Jaffa | Perhaps. One would hope that it's fixed *now* | 18:39 |
lcuk | and besides, with my console foo i'll make the problem worse ;) | 18:39 |
RST38h | Anybody tried BOS Wars? Is it worth trying? | 18:39 |
RST38h | lcuk: you can check if your mmc2 is in danger by checking its size | 18:40 |
lcuk | qwerty12, possibly, but "if it aint broke (properly), then dont try to fix it" | 18:40 |
lcuk | i know RST38h and im happy that the static content on it isnt gonna grow | 18:40 |
qwerty12 | But if you aint checked it, how do you know it is broke :P | 18:40 |
lcuk | well my maps still work and theres free space on it, chill :) | 18:40 |
qwerty12 | And if you can't trust a nokia program, what can you trust?... | 18:41 |
* lcuk is happy | 18:41 | |
qwerty12 | :) | 18:41 |
woglinde | hihi | 18:41 |
RST38h | qwerty: Nokia hardware? | 18:41 |
RST38h | ~curse Nokia PC Suite just because any reason is enough to curse this abomination | 18:41 |
infobot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, Nokia PC Suite just because any reason is enough to curse this abomination ! | 18:41 |
qwerty12 | RST38h: True, I do have to say, the build quality on my N800 is brilliant | 18:41 |
RST38h | actually, 810s are quite shoddily made | 18:43 |
RST38h | the casing is somewhat assymetric and the silvery paint tends to wear off | 18:43 |
RST38h | + front panel is a scratch magnet | 18:43 |
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robsta | ok, after repairing rw mounting work | 18:49 |
robsta | s | 18:49 |
robsta | what would i use to repartition? | 18:51 |
robsta | cfdisk, fdisk not found | 18:51 |
woglinde | try to install them? | 18:52 |
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qwerty12 | sfdisk... | 18:52 |
johnx_ | just find cfdisk | 18:53 |
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johnx_ | hang on, I'll dig it up | 18:53 |
qwerty12 | cfdisk is in the deblet repo iirc | 18:53 |
RST38h | mkfs | 18:53 |
johnx_ | there's no good reason to use sfdisk | 18:53 |
robsta | sfdisk is there | 18:53 |
RST38h | mkfs repairs partitions well | 18:53 |
johnx_ | RST38h, uhm, what? | 18:53 |
qwerty12 | I know. sfdisk is disgusting but it's shipped with tablet. | 18:53 |
RST38h | johnx: shshsh ;) | 18:53 |
johnx_ | :P can't tell when you're joking | 18:54 |
qwerty12 | Is there any preferred method to "suspend" a compile? | 18:55 |
summatusmentis | ctrl+c | 18:55 |
summatusmentis | ? | 18:55 |
robsta | thanks guys | 18:56 |
qwerty12 | Not close, pause. I guess I could ctrl + z | 18:56 |
robsta | looks like everything's back on track | 18:56 |
summatusmentis | ctrl+z will just background it won't it? | 18:56 |
summatusmentis | or am I confused | 18:56 |
RST38h | yes, usually | 18:56 |
qwerty12 | Hmm, probably does background it. | 18:56 |
summatusmentis | qwerty12: ctrl+c will stop it, and then you can just rerun the make command, and it should pick up from where it left off | 18:56 |
* qwerty12 is confused. I'll just use htop or something. | 18:56 | |
qwerty12 | summatusmentis: ah, ok, thanks | 18:57 |
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summatusmentis | _should_ :) That's how it works for kernel compiles, I assume it's the same for all else | 18:57 |
* qwerty12 hopes it's same for webkit, I don't have enough hours in day for that :) | 18:58 | |
qwerty12 | stupid pos fails on linking | 18:58 |
summatusmentis | I assume it is, it's just make | 18:58 |
summatusmentis | it'll re-build everything if you change parts of the source that have already been built, fyi | 18:59 |
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cyrus___ | Is there anyway to implement the followign in maemo: SSH in as a regular user and then su to root (where you have to know the root password) | 19:13 |
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Khertan_n810 | Hi ! | 19:15 |
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Jaffa | cyrus___: is there *any* way? yes; set a root password, disable root ssh logins, disable gainroot, enable /etc/sudoers for the commands you want. | 19:20 |
Jaffa | Same as any other Linux distro. | 19:20 |
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moontiger | khertan do u think the whole python engine is single threaded? | 19:23 |
moontiger | or are the sockets blocking? | 19:23 |
rm_you | GeneralAntilles: lolz | 19:23 |
rm_you | GeneralAntilles: that would be very useful, actually | 19:23 |
rm_you | and probably not especially difficult | 19:24 |
Khertan_n810 | moontiger ... i think the cpu is burning while doing that | 19:24 |
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moontiger | hmmmmmmmm u think thats it? | 19:24 |
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Khertan_n810 | yep | 19:25 |
moontiger | why 250 threads btw? | 19:26 |
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crashanddie | ~help | 19:27 |
Khertan_n810 | because i made some tests and i ve 250 event in the my calendar database | 19:27 |
cyrus___ | Jaffa - hmm...might not be following. if I setup sudoers to run su, isn't it going to ask for the users password, not the root password when running that command | 19:27 |
Khertan_n810 | +s | 19:27 |
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cyrus___ | Jaffa - I want it to ask for the root password | 19:27 |
moontiger | eeesh ... a thread per event?? | 19:28 |
Khertan_n810 | yep just a test | 19:28 |
moontiger | heh cool :) | 19:28 |
crashanddie | ~lart Manuel | 19:28 |
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Jaffa | cyrus___: hmm, I thought there was an option for that in sudoers, if not - install su ;-) | 19:28 |
Khertan_n810 | to see how tablet manage that | 19:29 |
moontiger | and apparently it doesnt | 19:29 |
cyrus___ | Jaffa - there is su intalled, but if I run su - it returns - applet requires root privileges | 19:29 |
moontiger | :/ | 19:29 |
moontiger | maybe thread pooling is a better idea :) | 19:30 |
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Jaffa | cyrus___: it's because it's part of busybox. rename it to su.real, create a small shell script which is chmod u+s, called 'su' which execs su.real | 19:32 |
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johnx_ | hey Havi | 19:57 |
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Havi | hi johnx | 20:00 |
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pumpkin_ | is it possible to do usb master mode on the n800? | 20:01 |
qwerty12 | usb host mode? certainly | 20:01 |
pumpkin_ | whoops, yes, sorry | 20:02 |
pumpkin_ | is there something special I need to do in software, or do I just need to find a suitable cable | 20:02 |
sneakret | You can even make it charge itself via USB. ;) | 20:02 |
pumpkin_ | o.O | 20:02 |
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johnx_ | pumpkin_, there are a couple pieces of software that can set the USB mode | 20:03 |
pumpkin_ | cool, I just googled and found some info | 20:04 |
pumpkin_ | thanks :) | 20:04 |
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sneakret | google > irc | 20:04 |
sneakret | :) | 20:04 |
pumpkin_ | I should've done it first | 20:04 |
pumpkin_ | irc > google, but one should check the latter first :P | 20:04 |
sneakret | I've said that many times. :) | 20:04 |
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sneakret | (said I should've googled first) | 20:05 |
johnx_ | pumpkin_, the slightly harder part is finding a cable to hook everything up | 20:05 |
sneakret | and yeah, I have to agree. :) | 20:05 |
sneakret | irc > google | 20:05 |
pumpkin_ | johnx_: yeah, I'd imagine | 20:05 |
sneakret | You can just use a female->female adapter with the stock cable. | 20:06 |
sneakret | http://www.usbfirewire.com/Parts/rr-usb-023-afafrbig.jpg | 20:06 |
pumpkin_ | cool, thanks | 20:07 |
sneakret | http://www.usbfirewire.com/uconverters.html | 20:07 |
sneakret | or wherever | 20:07 |
pumpkin_ | makes sense, thanks a lot! | 20:07 |
sneakret | You're welcmoe. | 20:08 |
sneakret | ome | 20:08 |
sneakret | I need a good task management tool. :( | 20:08 |
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lcuk | heh, Karoliina Salminen posted a video from her trip to the summit, about the only thing in it relating to n8x0s are clips from liqbase :D | 20:11 |
lcuk | http://vimeo.com/1790444?pg=embed&sec=1790444 | 20:11 |
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* Stskeeps watches | 20:14 | |
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Stskeeps | karoliina should do intro music like in XP, .. for maemo | 20:15 |
Stskeeps | :P | 20:15 |
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lcuk | its quite mello stuff, brought back a lot of great memories | 20:16 |
* Stskeeps 's gf just left 15 mins ago for 6 months internship in berlin :P | 20:17 | |
johnx_ | oh noes! | 20:17 |
lcuk | where are you? | 20:17 |
Stskeeps | well, in denmark, so not -that- far :P | 20:17 |
Stskeeps | but still | 20:17 |
Stskeeps | .. more development time, i guess :P | 20:17 |
johnx_ | that sucks Stskeeps, but we promise to keep you company | 20:17 |
Stskeeps | .. more cooking | 20:17 |
Stskeeps | ... more pizza! | 20:17 |
lcuk | johnx_, sod Stskeeps; theres a lonely girl in berlin - im gettin a ticket :P ;) | 20:18 |
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Stskeeps | hehe | 20:18 |
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johnx_ | bah, it's only a 625km drive. easy, easy | 20:18 |
johnx_ | I'd visit every weekend if I were you :) | 20:18 |
Stskeeps | no car ;) | 20:18 |
lcuk | Stskeeps, whats she had to go that far for? | 20:18 |
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Stskeeps | lcuk: international department of danish company | 20:18 |
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Stskeeps | trainee which may lead to junior consulantship | 20:19 |
rm_you | hrm, someone recall how to turn on bluetooth visibility of a device in debian? | 20:19 |
johnx_ | Stskeeps, cars are cheap. look at the one I got for $500! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/JohnX/compdscn2966.jpg | 20:19 |
rm_you | johnx_: do you recall? | 20:19 |
qwerty12 | johnx_, I'll give you £250 for it! | 20:19 |
Stskeeps | johnx_: no driving license ;) | 20:19 |
qwerty12 | Stskeeps, who needs a license :P | 20:20 |
lcuk | yes Stskeeps, careers, mmmnmmm | 20:20 |
johnx_ | mmm...usually there's an applet in the GUI :) | 20:20 |
johnx_ | rm_you, ^ | 20:20 |
rm_you | lol john, i loved that car :P | 20:20 |
dick-richardson | I have dbus-scripts configured and working, but need some help figuring out my problem w/ssh. I create a local tunnel (for my proxy) and a remote tunnel (for ease of typing and cases of theft), but the remote tunnel isn't working | 20:20 |
rm_you | that's the one that looked like a penguin, yes? :P | 20:20 |
johnx_ | rm_you, yup | 20:21 |
rm_you | ^_^ | 20:21 |
johnx_ | qwerty12, sorry, someone already beat you to it a while ago | 20:21 |
* rm_you fails at finding the bluetooth control applet | 20:21 | |
johnx_ | rm_you, run bluetooth-applet | 20:21 |
* qwerty12 cries after hearing that news from johnx_ :( | 20:21 | |
Stskeeps | gah. "boot in 5 seconds" threads on iTT | 20:21 |
Stskeeps | and people asking about it for deblet too | 20:21 |
Stskeeps | lovely | 20:21 |
johnx_ | qwerty12, did you look at it? Why do you want a car like that? | 20:22 |
rm_you | oh. | 20:22 |
rm_you | there it was >_> | 20:22 |
johnx_ | Stskeeps, now you know why I stopped talking on the forums for the most part... | 20:22 |
qwerty12 | johnx_, if I smash it up when speeding, no worries :P. Actually, I was at a car auction and saw a old old austin maestro go for £20 | 20:23 |
Stskeeps | johnx_: the debian subforum is (thank god) semi-sane atleast :P | 20:23 |
liri | there was a messeging app (including voice) which supported several protocols (gtalk, icq, msn) and was available for the tablet but it wasn't gizmo5 I think...was it that or something else? | 20:23 |
Stskeeps | johnx_: but i do want to try experiments like preload and finit-alt though | 20:23 |
johnx_ | liri, pidgin? | 20:23 |
johnx_ | qwerty12, that car had some...issues | 20:24 |
qwerty12 | heh | 20:24 |
liri | I thought it was something else, kinda commercial like gizmo5 | 20:24 |
Stskeeps | rm_you: you love doing control panel applets btw for maemo? | 20:24 |
lcuk | the car didnt have issues, it knew it wasnted to die, you wouldnt let it though | 20:25 |
rm_you | Stskeeps: wouldn't say "love", it's just what I have experience with now >_> | 20:25 |
johnx_ | lcuk, nah, just some of the things unrelated to it being a car didn't quite work perfectly | 20:25 |
rm_you | lcuk: still want pictures of your wooden thing >_< | 20:25 |
johnx_ | rm_you, he put them up before. you missed them :P | 20:25 |
liri | there's that telepathy haze or whatever app that's supposed to integrate with the phone's contacts etc, isn't it? | 20:25 |
rm_you | damnit! >_< | 20:26 |
Stskeeps | rm_you: GA's pushing a bit getting into community versions of maemo or something.. and one thing would be for example a control panel for boot items like i have in mine | 20:26 |
rm_you | Stskeeps: yeah he pinged me about it earlier | 20:26 |
johnx_ | liri, rtcomm-beta? | 20:26 |
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rm_you | I'd prolly be up for that | 20:26 |
lcuk | ffs rm_you i gave you one | 20:26 |
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rm_you | I was planning to work on the route/tile server for vector maps in Maemo Mapper when I actually got some free time... | 20:26 |
* Stskeeps would really love some standarization of bootmenu personally | 20:26 | |
johnx_ | the new rm_you: now with more fail | 20:27 |
rm_you | but that would probably also be very useful | 20:27 |
rm_you | lol | 20:27 |
rm_you | lcuk: link me again :P | 20:27 |
rm_you | i only show up here like once every 3 days | 20:27 |
rm_you | so they scroll off if i've left already | 20:27 |
johnx_ | rm_you, grep lcuk .xchat/xchatlogs/Freenode-#maemo.log | grep -i jpg | 20:28 |
liri | johnx_: I think that's the one yeah... that's not released already? | 20:28 |
Stskeeps | fantastic, one beer and i feel tipsy already | 20:28 |
Stskeeps | this is going to be a cheap evening of partyig | 20:28 |
johnx_ | Stskeeps, the best kind | 20:29 |
johnx_ | rm_you, over here :P http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7308/810crateinkx8.jpg | 20:29 |
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Stskeeps | had some pills at one point, made 4x more drunker. that saved my budget as a student :P | 20:29 |
lcuk | http://maemo-hackers.org/wiki/MaemoUrls | 20:29 |
Stskeeps | +me | 20:29 |
lcuk | rm_you, to prove it, look at the top imageshack image | 20:29 |
rm_you | yeah yeah i see it now :P | 20:30 |
rm_you | sweet | 20:30 |
* lcuk hits you round the head with it | 20:31 | |
rm_you | anyway, really do gotta run now | 20:31 |
lcuk | cya later - and try not to fall asleep in the bogs tongiht | 20:31 |
rm_you | lol | 20:31 |
rm_you | wait... did hrw di a personalmenu that supports rotation display? | 20:31 |
rm_you | just see "http://blog.haerwu.biz/tmp/personal-menu-0.7-xrandr.tar.bz2" in the links | 20:32 |
johnx_ | rm_you, uhm, maybe. not sure | 20:32 |
johnx_ | rm_you, now go, you'll be late for class :P | 20:32 |
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woglinde | hi gnuton | 20:32 |
GNUton | hi | 20:33 |
inz | lcuk, had I made such page; I had no memory of such thing ;) | 20:33 |
GNUton | woglinde: Hi bot | 20:33 |
lcuk | inz? | 20:33 |
lcuk | is that page yours? | 20:33 |
inz | yes | 20:33 |
woglinde | lol | 20:34 |
lcuk | ahhhahh most useful bit of hackery :) | 20:34 |
woglinde | nice try | 20:34 |
inz | See the bottom right | 20:34 |
woglinde | but turing is not enough | 20:34 |
lcuk | ahhh inz, yes white background with white text stands out so well :D i was wondering why i never notieced it before ;) | 20:34 |
lcuk | you oculd actually make it easier to see by having it visible on summer solstice morning when connected at gps coordinates -24.005982843, 2340938 and holding aloft a cat to the moongods | 20:35 |
lcuk | anyway :) thank you ive been pulling it up for a few months now | 20:36 |
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inz | lcuk, it's not my fault, it's trac default ;) | 20:37 |
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liri | does anyone have a gizmo account? I'd like to try this thing on the n810 | 20:54 |
* qwerty12 curses as I make a window "100% transparent" | 20:55 | |
Sargun_Screen | bah, how do I make the frackin on screen keyboard show up | 20:59 |
johnx_ | Sargun_Screen, go to control panel, set it so the big keyboard always comes up | 21:00 |
Sargun_Screen | I dont always want it to come up though | 21:00 |
lcuk | Sargun_Screen, go into control panel and put a tick inside "have cake" and another inside "eat it too" | 21:02 |
johnx_ | lcuk++ | 21:02 |
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RST38h | back | 21:09 |
hrw | rm_you: no - it was just ugly hack which does not work | 21:11 |
johnx_ | hrw, you've seen rm_you's adv backlight with rotation control, right? | 21:12 |
rm_you | lol | 21:12 |
hrw | johnx_: I use it | 21:12 |
johnx_ | rm_you, so much for "have to leave right now" :P | 21:12 |
rm_you | i did | 21:12 |
rm_you | and then i came back | 21:12 |
rm_you | JUST got back | 21:12 |
rm_you | to hear xchat beep at me :P | 21:12 |
johnx_ | that was fast | 21:12 |
rm_you | i just had to eat / shower :P | 21:12 |
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rm_you | no more classes today | 21:12 |
johnx_ | saves time when you do those at the same time I guess... | 21:13 |
rm_you | going to the shooting range, then dinner with GF possibly, then dunno :P | 21:13 |
johnx_ | then combine them all! dinner at the shooting range with your girlfriend | 21:14 |
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johnx_ | multitask! | 21:14 |
rm_you | lol | 21:15 |
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GeneralAntilles | rm_you, quite easy, in fact, especially with Stskeeeps new .item system. | 21:34 |
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rm_you | hrm ok will look in a bit | 21:38 |
rm_you | gotta run for real now :P | 21:38 |
johnx_ | rm_you's always on the run | 21:39 |
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* GAN800 fires after him. | 21:39 | |
Havi | Ew | 21:41 |
Havi | rm_you: you shot your girlfriend at the shooting range and then had her for dinner?! | 21:41 |
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Havi | Good God | 21:42 |
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rm_you | lol | 21:47 |
rm_you | ACK, late | 21:47 |
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inherited | hey, is there a java compiler for the n810 yet? | 21:58 |
johnx_ | There's jalimo: http://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Main_Page | 21:59 |
RST38h | compiler or runtime? | 22:00 |
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Jaffa | Both | 22:05 |
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Savago | Hello, friends. | 22:39 |
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Savago | I'm trying to port a C library to maemo, but I'm getting this error when I try to link a test app with this library: "invalid string offset 138597000 >= 3250 for | 22:39 |
Savago | section `.dynstr'" | 22:39 |
Savago | Does library compilation requires special flags/parameters? I only did "../configure; make; make install" in diablo ARMEL. | 22:40 |
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GNUton | Mek: ping | 22:58 |
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pupnik810 | evening | 22:58 |
GNUton | jott: ping | 22:58 |
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pupnik810 | hrmph | 23:00 |
jott | hello GNUton | 23:00 |
jott | hello pupnik810 | 23:00 |
pupnik810 | whats new? | 23:00 |
pupnik810 | did you have fun at the summit? | 23:01 |
jott | yeah indeed. next time you really have to come :) | 23:01 |
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GNUton | jott: Are there news about the CMake bug? | 23:02 |
pupnik810 | will comply | 23:03 |
jott | GNUton: hmm no i don't think so. we will have to contact the people again to get this moving. | 23:03 |
GNUton | jott: are you using the latest version of scratchbox? (1.10.11) | 23:04 |
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pupnik810 | it is too cold to type tonight | 23:05 |
pupnik810 | :/ | 23:05 |
jott | pupnik810: are you outside? :O | 23:05 |
pupnik810 | jes | 23:06 |
GNUton | pupnik810: where are u? | 23:06 |
pupnik810 | street | 23:06 |
jott | GNUton: hmm no .10 currently | 23:06 |
GNUton | ok | 23:06 |
pupnik810 | yaay for the N810 wifi sensitivity | 23:06 |
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* jott upgrades :) | 23:07 | |
jott | pupnik810: war-walking? :) | 23:07 |
GNUton | jott: me too :) | 23:07 |
jott | GNUton: any plans for the 4.5 transition? | 23:07 |
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pupnik810 | not exactly - have permission to use wlan | 23:08 |
pupnik810 | any fcc leaks on n9x0? | 23:09 |
GNUton | jott: I started to prepare the packages some days ago... but there are always something to fix.. | 23:09 |
GNUton | and It doesn't finished to compile yet. | 23:09 |
jott | GNUton: hehe. did you start to port some of the changes or just plain upstream version? | 23:10 |
GNUton | I compile Qt only in the night.. because I've only a machine... | 23:10 |
pupnik810 | brr.. gtg - have a nice night :) | 23:10 |
GNUton | jott: something | 23:10 |
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lpotter | GNUton: you shoud try qtextended on a single machine... | 23:10 |
jott | actually qt extended compiled quite fast here :) | 23:11 |
GNUton | hey lpotter! :) | 23:11 |
lpotter | well, qtextended does use qbuild! | 23:11 |
lpotter | hey GNUton | 23:11 |
jott | lpotter: ah right i need to file a bug, as calling qbuild directly does not respect "-j" parameter :/ | 23:12 |
lpotter | GNUton: do you have trouble linking gmake in scratchbox? when compiling for x86 target? | 23:12 |
lpotter | jott: it does, but it also has another parameter involved | 23:12 |
jott | lpotter: ooh, which one? :) | 23:13 |
jott | (make -j8 worked) | 23:13 |
lpotter | jott: did you see I released the toolchain we use for n810? | 23:13 |
jott | yer. not tested yet. it works fine with mine now ;) | 23:13 |
lpotter | i need to try scratchbox2/SDK+ and start pushing that | 23:14 |
GNUton | lpotter: no I don't have any trouble linking gmake.. | 23:14 |
jott | btw lpotter, is there a list of special widgets introduced in qt extended (like the QSmoothList) | 23:14 |
jott | (or better special widgets not in base qt) | 23:15 |
lpotter | GNUton: odd. I had to edit mkpecs and use host-gcc and host-g++ as the native one failed linking qmake | 23:15 |
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lpotter | jott: in the docs. dont know if there is a list of whats new though | 23:15 |
lpotter | I know of QCollective (telepathy) and QWhereabouts (gps) | 23:16 |
lpotter | QtopiaWhereabouts I think | 23:16 |
lpotter | and Qtoia COllective | 23:16 |
lpotter | blah.. | 23:16 |
jott | would really be interesting to see/use them on qt/x11 | 23:16 |
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lpotter | agreed | 23:17 |
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GNUton | Today I had a discussion with Luciano Wolf about the porting of QtExtended in maemo... | 23:18 |
lpotter | GNUton: its already ported.. for years now. :) | 23:18 |
lpotter | wll.. without x11 that is | 23:19 |
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lpotter | youcan compile qtextended for x11... you have to edit a file to get the configure argument. its unmaintained really | 23:19 |
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GNUton | that's great.. | 23:20 |
lpotter | I keep pushing for qtextended/x11 | 23:20 |
lpotter | but it needs a lot of work to make run good. its slow as its not optimized and qt/x11 is slow anyway | 23:20 |
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jott | lpotter: yeah it would be good to have some separation between low-level qt extended functions and the widgets and different iterview stuff. | 23:21 |
jott | this way qt extended stuff could also run on qt/wince ;> | 23:22 |
lpotter | bah! who uses wince? ;) | 23:22 |
jott | but more importantly, it could be used on qt/x11 based embedded devices ;) | 23:22 |
GNUton | :) | 23:22 |
jott | lpotter: marketing folks :P | 23:22 |
lpotter | true | 23:22 |
woglinde | *g* | 23:23 |
* Jaffa watches _Recount_ - good so far ('bout the 2000 US election fsck up) | 23:23 | |
woglinde | wasn there one device which runs qtopia/x11? | 23:24 |
woglinde | *ducks and hide* | 23:24 |
jott | heh :) | 23:24 |
GNUton | :D | 23:25 |
lpotter | no. there is no device running qtopia.x11 | 23:25 |
woglinde | hm only some apps | 23:26 |
lpotter | what openmoko is doing is not qtopia/x11 | 23:26 |
lpotter | ya | 23:26 |
woglinde | but with zeckes git dir you theoretical could do it | 23:26 |
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lpotter | we actually 'ported' qtopai to x11 for a demo on 770 | 23:27 |
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RST38h | is maemo.org downloads dead? can't even create a new project =( | 23:29 |
RST38h | moo jaffa, jott, gnuton, handful | 23:29 |
handful | RST38h: hail! :) | 23:29 |
RST38h | ~curse 770 that runs maemo.org | 23:30 |
infobot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, 770 that runs maemo.org ! | 23:30 |
jott | RST38h: woo! | 23:30 |
GNUton | RST38h: Hola! | 23:31 |
RST38h | Whoever wanted EMUTools on Maemo (qwerty?) the package is now available at http://fms.komkon.org/EMUL8/ . Coming to Extras shortly. | 23:32 |
jott | lpotter: still it would be really nice to just do something like QT += extendedgui or so to make use of QSmoothList etc. :) | 23:32 |
lpotter | agreed | 23:33 |
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jott | lpotter: go! whip you minions! :D | 23:34 |
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jott | your | 23:34 |
jott | RST38h: so you are working on a snes emu now? ;) | 23:35 |
RST38h | jott: shush. | 23:37 |
RST38h | there is no need to come to such quick conclusions =) | 23:37 |
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vlad_ | is there an ext2 kernel module for the latest 4.1.1 kernel? (rather, the oprofile-enabled kernel, I guess) | 23:51 |
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vlad_ | oh, nvm, I just didn't have kernel-diablo-modules installed | 23:53 |
Jaffa | heh | 23:53 |
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vlad_ | now to find mkfs.ext2 | 23:59 |
vlad_ | (and/or a mini-sd to sd adapter) | 23:59 |
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