IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2008-09-04

*** smancke has quit IRC00:04
jotthm anyone actually tried directfb in initfs?00:04
*** qwerty12_n800 has quit IRC00:06
*** hvelarde|stealth has joined #maemo00:08
Stskeepslbt: yeah, nit-env-stskeeps has become unstable, i really have no clue why00:09
Stskeepsand it's xfce4-panel00:09
lbtta - I just pulled the battery though :)00:09
lbtI'll try again in a bit...00:09
*** krau has quit IRC00:10
lbtoh, actually, it hung hard first...00:10
lbtI've not played with it much for a week00:10
lbtI'll fsck it00:10
lbtand try again00:10
*** MoRpHeUz has joined #maemo00:11
*** krau has joined #maemo00:12
*** moontiger has joined #maemo00:12
*** krau has quit IRC00:12
*** henrique has joined #maemo00:12
*** zap has quit IRC00:14
*** henrique has quit IRC00:18
lardman|eatingfortune cookies, there's a thing, why has no-one developed an app to display a cookie every time the screen is unlocked?00:18
*** mavhk has joined #maemo00:19
lbtyou can tell you're eating00:19
lardman|eatingnah, just saw mention of fortune above :)00:19
moontigerlbt, hey :)00:19
lardman|eatingI am quite hungry though now you mention it00:19
lbthi moontiger00:20
lbtdid I reply to your mail?00:20
*** mavhk is now known as mavhc00:20
*** skibur has quit IRC00:24
*** Woefix has joined #maemo00:29
* Stskeeps posts the Deblet Hack Challenges v1.0,
GeneralAntillesWoo, finally, a serial console.00:36
GeneralAntillesGot a real null modem cable00:37
* GeneralAntilles iz tard00:37
* jott hands GeneralAntilles a parity bit00:37
GeneralAntilles'course, I left my DVI-HDMI cable back home.00:37
*** simon_ has quit IRC00:38
*** patoh_ has quit IRC00:38
ProteousI always carry mine in my pocket00:38
Proteoushas the added bonus of jabbing me in the leg as I walk00:38
*** hari has quit IRC00:39
*** hari has joined #maemo00:41
*** Khertan has quit IRC00:44
*** Khertan has joined #maemo00:44
PebbyProteous: but a hobo can do that, and steal your wallet too!00:44
Proteousa hobo can jab me in the leg?00:45
*** t_s_o has quit IRC00:45
ProteousHOOK ME UP!00:45
PebbyAnd many other places if you look wealthy!00:45
*** skibur has joined #maemo00:46
*** p| has quit IRC00:49
*** krau has joined #maemo00:52
*** b0unc3 has joined #maemo00:53
*** matt_c has quit IRC00:54
GeneralAntillesjott, I like the blog idea.00:55
GeneralAntillesI think a " Community Council" blog would be best.00:55
*** secureendpoints has quit IRC00:55
*** patoh has quit IRC00:57
*** geaaru has joined #maemo00:57
lbtis anything special needed to compile for initfs environment?00:57
lbteg static?00:57
*** housetier has quit IRC00:58
* Stskeeps ponders if gammu just tried to hack his neighbours cellphone01:01
Proteousyes, you need to add $50 to my paypal acount01:01
lbtOK, I compiled a 1-liner printf and copy it to /tmp in an initfs (using dropbear)01:08
lbtit says -sh: /tmp/try: not found01:08
*** alex-weej has quit IRC01:08
lbtIf I scp a binary from initfs to my machine and back to /tmp it works fine01:08
lbtso WTF is 'not found'01:08
Stskeepslbt: the libc it points to doesntt exist01:09
lbtI tried -B static -lx01:10
*** Woefix has quit IRC01:10
lbtsorry :  -B static -lc01:10
lbtldd does show /lib/
lbthmm - initfs uses uclibc doesn't it01:11
jottGeneralAntilles: indeed, would also give it an official touch and extra recognition.01:12
GeneralAntillesBit simpler than "blessing" all of the current council member's individual blogs01:12
jotthehe blessed blogs :)01:13
lardman|eatinglbt: iirc you need to link agains ulibc01:13
lbtyep - figured that - but how?01:13
*** lardman|eating is now known as lardman|eaten01:13
jottlbt: tslib needs some patching...01:13
GeneralAntillesand means I don't have to get myself a blog if I get elected. ;)01:13
jottlbt: there is a scratchbox uclibc target01:13
lardman|eatenlbt: download and compile, make a new build system, etc.01:13
lardman|eatenlbt: painful01:13
jott(not compatible with the maemo one, but still can be used to compile statically against uclibc)01:14
lbtI prefer jott's idea01:14
lardman|eatenyeah that's fair enough, I didn't know that existed :)01:14
lardman|eatenanyway, bed time, see you all tomorrow01:14
*** lardman|eaten has quit IRC01:14
GeneralAntilleslardman|eaten, stomach acid must hurt.01:14
GeneralAntillesBASTARD SON OF A WHORE!01:14
Stskeepsdid any of you people try Wammu with maemo?01:15
Stskeepsit seems to be a decent software01:15
jottlardman the quickest irc quitter in existance :)01:15
GeneralAntillesFor serious.01:15
Alystairgrabbed me a 770 for $73 :)01:16
jottlbt: still tslib needs patching as it relies on dlopen and a plugin system :(01:16
lbtjott: any suggestions on where to start?01:16
jottlbt: for what? toolchain or getting tslib running? ;)01:16
lbtI got tslib down01:16
lbtheh - both eventually01:17
lbtI guess uclib first01:17
Stskeeps.. why on -earth- does imagemagick require xulrunner01:17
jottwell toolchain should be "apt-get install scratchbox-toolchain-arm-gcc3.4-uclibc0.9.28" if you run a debian like system..01:17
GeneralAntillesI guess they wanted to make it as bloated as possible.01:17
Stskeepsand i thought my installer was bad..01:17
jottand then sb-menu in sbox to add, yadda, yadda,01:18
*** birunko has quit IRC01:18
jotthuh? imagemagick requires xulrunner?!01:18
Stskeepsokay, even worse01:18
Stskeepsapt-get install imagemagick under debian drags in iceweasel01:18
jottconvert foo.html bla.png? ;)01:18
Stskeepsin some ways, gentoo people got the right idea01:19
*** mgedmin has quit IRC01:19
*** lmoura has quit IRC01:19
mikkov_at least on my etch imagemagick is installed without iceweasel01:20
*** BabelO has quit IRC01:20
lbtStskeeps: is it pulling in recommended01:21
jottmikkov_: but only when have install big-chunky-desktop-meta-package :)01:21
*** chenca has quit IRC01:21
*** andrunko has quit IRC01:21
*** etrunko has quit IRC01:21
mikkov_since when apt-get is pulling recommended packages too?01:22
mikkov_according to this imagemagick doesn't have any funny depencies01:24
Stskeepslbt: huh? why the hell is it doing that?01:25
lbtit's not - my mistake01:26
Stskeepswell it would explain something i saw the other day as well01:26
lbtI was digging in the dependencies in aptitude and just connected my fingers to my wonderings01:26
*** matt_c has joined #maemo01:26
Stskeepswhere apt-get install bootchart installed the bootchart-view too01:26
Stskeeps(which was recommended)01:26
mikkov_didn't install on etch01:28
mikkov_there's some setting for recommended packages?01:29
*** secureendpoints has joined #maemo01:30
lbtsuper clean stable install :
jottmikkov_: yes APT::Install-Recommends01:31
*** Khertan has quit IRC01:34
*** Khertan has joined #maemo01:34
Stskeepsim on lenny01:34
mikkov_yeah X related stuff is probably too much considering that imagemagick is command line tool (or is it?)01:36
lbtit has lots of viewers01:37
mikkov_they should be put to separate package01:38
lbtok - toolchain is downloading - bedtime...01:45
lbt'night all01:45
*** MoRpHeUz has quit IRC01:46
*** Alystair has quit IRC01:49
*** efleury has quit IRC01:53
*** _freelikegnu has quit IRC01:53
*** geaaru has quit IRC01:53
*** cmarcelo has quit IRC01:56
*** MangoFusion has quit IRC02:02
*** lbt has quit IRC02:03
jottmikkov_: "display" uses X11 :)02:04
*** hellwolf has quit IRC02:05
*** Ryback_ has quit IRC02:06
*** fUD has joined #maemo02:08
*** tbf has quit IRC02:12
*** pvanhoof has quit IRC02:13
*** gentooer has joined #maemo02:14
*** matt_c has quit IRC02:15
*** hvelarde|stealth has quit IRC02:16
*** eichi has quit IRC02:16
*** lele has quit IRC02:17
*** lele has joined #maemo02:17
*** flo_lap has quit IRC02:18
*** mavhc has quit IRC02:33
*** vcgomes is now known as vcgomes[away]02:33
*** krau has quit IRC02:36
*** krau has joined #maemo02:37
*** blade_runner has quit IRC02:42
*** koyote has joined #maemo02:44
*** k-s is now known as k-s[AWAY]02:50
*** slug has joined #maemo02:54
*** smackpotato has joined #maemo02:57
*** evaryont has joined #maemo03:02
evaryontAnyone here able to install Granule (the flash card program) on n800/OS2008?03:03
*** slug has quit IRC03:03
evaryontI can't - every time I've tried the App Manager can't find gstreamer-tools03:03
evaryontand I don't know where to get gst-tools :(03:03
*** Sargun has quit IRC03:09
*** jacques_ has joined #maemo03:09
*** birunko has joined #maemo03:09
*** jacques_ has quit IRC03:10
*** ian_brasil has quit IRC03:13
GeneralAntillesWell, I've got an Angstrom serial console.03:19
GeneralAntillesGotta wait for that damn cable. . . .03:19
RST38hcongratulations :)03:22
GeneralAntillesI've now reached the level of semi-tard.03:23
* RST38h uses opportunity to curse ICNexus for not installing SSHD on their dev board03:25
*** jacques_ has joined #maemo03:26
*** jacques_ has quit IRC03:28
*** vivijim has quit IRC03:30
*** dholbert has quit IRC03:34
*** dougt has quit IRC03:34
*** Khertan has quit IRC03:39
*** Khertan has joined #maemo03:39
*** borism_ has joined #maemo03:56
*** aloisiojr has quit IRC03:57
*** behdad has quit IRC03:58
*** birunko has quit IRC04:00
*** harryl has joined #maemo04:00
*** borism has quit IRC04:03
*** rsalveti has quit IRC04:06
*** rsalveti has joined #maemo04:06
*** dougt has joined #maemo04:09
*** gentooer has quit IRC04:14
*** uncorq has joined #maemo04:15
*** dougt has quit IRC04:16
*** elekt has quit IRC04:22
*** rsalveti has quit IRC04:24
*** benh has joined #maemo04:31
*** scheng has joined #maemo04:33
*** chmac has joined #maemo04:33
*** rsalveti has joined #maemo04:34
*** matt_c has joined #maemo04:36
*** Tuco has joined #maemo04:41
*** Mousey has quit IRC04:45
*** danilocesar has quit IRC04:46
*** Ryback_ has joined #maemo04:48
*** eichi has joined #maemo05:09
*** smackpotato has left #maemo05:09
*** Raytray has quit IRC05:11
*** flavioribeiro has joined #maemo05:17
*** Pebby has quit IRC05:21
evaryontI've recently formatted my 4gb SD card, and the nokia n800 can mount/read/write it, but my linux computer can't even detect that it is a device. udev creates a dev device (/dev/sdc) but when I attempt to mount it (mount /dev/sdc /media/sdcard) mount says sdc isn't a valid block device. There are no other /dev/sdc* files, (i.e. sdc1, sdc2..), only sdc05:23
evaryontMy sd card reader is usb connected, and I have a second USB based sdcard reader, I've tried both, and both fail with the same error05:23
*** Ryback_ has quit IRC05:25
*** matt_c has quit IRC05:28
evaryontMy card is a SDHC, though I think that the reader supports them (though I'm not sure)05:30
*** Alystair has joined #maemo05:32
Alystairoh man I'm an idiot and bought my 770 without a mem card :(05:32
Alystairit still works without one right?05:32
*** herz1 has joined #maemo05:33
GeneralAntillesOf course.05:35
*** herzi has quit IRC05:35
evaryontmy's the reader. Only SD, not SDHC :/05:36
AlystairGeneralAntilles: so it's only used for external storage, if I want to keep stuff like MP3s or text files, etc right?05:38
GeneralAntillesWell, you _can_ boot from it.05:39
GeneralAntillesBut most people just use it for storage05:39
GeneralAntillessince you've only got about ~64MB available internally.05:39
*** matt_c has joined #maemo05:42
*** mgedmin has joined #maemo05:43
*** flavioribeiro has quit IRC05:45
Alystairinternal is faster than external though, right? usually the case.05:46
GeneralAntillesErm, well, not really.05:47
GeneralAntillesDepends a lot on the card05:47
GeneralAntillesand whether you have a 48MHz-enabled kernel05:47
GeneralAntillesCards go from somewhat faster to significantly slower than internal05:48
AlystairI'm pretty into soft mods so I'm going to be tweeking this thing to no end05:49
Alystaira bit of hardmod expirience as well but nothing as hardcore as chip replacements :)05:49
GeneralAntillesThere aren't any chips you can really replace on the 770. ;)05:50
DekaritaeBristol Palin is ChristinaModel05:50
Alystairhaha oh man Red Alert 3 looks horrific05:53
Alystairnot even Peter Stormare can save it.05:54
RST38hReplace OMAP1 with OMAP2!06:00
GeneralAntillesIf you can do that by hand, you automatically win at everything ever for the rest of your life.06:00
moontigerGeneralAntilles, is that 48MHz mod worth the trouble?06:01
GeneralAntillesIt's just a kernel flash06:01
GeneralAntillesLess effective on the N8x0 than the 77006:01
GeneralAntillesand it's not endorsed by TI, so there may be stability troubles.06:01
GeneralAntillesBut there will be improvement.06:01
moontigerach i'll pass unless its going to change my world :)06:01
*** dougt has joined #maemo06:05
*** Tuco has quit IRC06:19
*** Pebby has joined #maemo06:22
*** eichi has quit IRC06:28
*** Anunakin has joined #maemo06:31
*** profoX` has quit IRC06:44
*** Anunakin has quit IRC06:56
*** GeneralAntilles has quit IRC07:00
GAN800 Would it be possible to use the N800 as a usbnet host?07:02
*** atul has joined #maemo07:06
*** jacques has joined #maemo07:06
Alystairoh man I'm going to be so happy07:07
Alystairto be able to walk around the house and stream 80gb of music and radio07:07
*** mgedmin has quit IRC07:07
*** rob2087 has joined #maemo07:08
rob2087can anyone recommend a good irc client?07:09
GAN800it's in extras-devel07:10
infobothmm... extras is
rob2087thank you07:10
*** GeneralAntilles has joined #maemo07:12
*** rob2087 has quit IRC07:16
tank-manis there a package/script to remove 'docpurge' and install the info/man pages for what is installed?07:17
*** Italodance has joined #maemo07:20
Alystairwhy does the front page of the wiki show up blank?07:24
Alystair> <07:24
GeneralAntillesIt's a server issue07:25
GeneralAntillesApache threads are segfaulting every once and a while07:25
GeneralAntillesWaiting on server upgrades for a fix.07:26
Alystairew, alright07:26
GeneralAntillesShould be within the next month07:26
*** dirtyrice88 has joined #maemo07:31
GeneralAntillesdirtyrice88, gtfo07:32
*** mbuf has joined #maemo07:35
*** minti has joined #maemo07:37
*** n800m has joined #maemo07:41
*** avs has joined #maemo07:42
*** minti has quit IRC07:45
dirtyrice88whoa whoa whoa07:47
dirtyrice88chillax man07:47
moontigerGeneralAntilles, when do you get the results of the vote thingy?07:49
*** minti has joined #maemo07:49
GeneralAntilles6 days07:49
moontigercool ... you were in it yes?07:50
GeneralAntillesRyan Abel07:51
moontigerwhat does the winner get?07:51
GeneralAntillesWell, there are 5 "Winners"07:52
GeneralAntillesThey get positions on the Community Council07:52
GeneralAntillesCall it a schoolboard election or something. ;)07:52
moontigerand does that mean you get to influence things?07:53
GeneralAntillesIt's not really an authority position.07:53
GeneralAntillesMore of a community leadership and facilitation position.07:53
GeneralAntillesHelp organize community events07:53
moontigerwell i voted for you cos i think you do a good job here ;)07:54
GeneralAntilleshelp facilitate communication between Nokia and the community07:54
GeneralAntillesBringing community issues to Nokia's attention, in particular07:54
GeneralAntillesThanks! :)07:54
*** dirtyrice88 has quit IRC07:55
*** chmac has quit IRC07:59
*** tekojo has joined #maemo08:03
*** Sargun has joined #maemo08:03
tekojoHi everyone!08:04
tekojoI thought it would be proper to introduce myself over here08:05
GeneralAntillesHehe, most everybody's asleep at the moment. ;)08:05
tekojoI am the new Nokia project manager for maemo.org08:05
GeneralAntillesAh, right, I saw your email on -community.08:05
tekojoI know, but I'll start small :)08:05
GeneralAntillesWelcome! :)08:05
melmothHola. You work early in the morning :)08:06
tekojoBy the way GeneralAntilles do you ever sleep?:)08:06
GeneralAntillesFrequently, yes. :D08:06
*** uncorq has quit IRC08:06
*** un_corq has joined #maemo08:06
* GeneralAntilles is poking at USBNet on a Beagle Board at the moment. . . .08:06
tekojomelmoth, yep I tend to come in early08:07
*** xkill has joined #maemo08:08
*** rsalveti has quit IRC08:08
* Stskeeps pokes the coffee machine08:10
GeneralAntillesThe Beagle seems about as eager as possible to use USBNet08:11
GeneralAntillesMy OS X box, not so much08:11
GeneralAntillesStskeeps, can I share the wifi connection over USBNet under Deblet? :D08:11
* GeneralAntilles is bound and determined to turn his N800 into a glorified USB wifi adaptor.08:12
*** borism has joined #maemo08:13
StskeepsGeneralAntilles: that's a good question, i don't know if cx3110x does bridging, or if there's NAT modules available ;)08:13
GeneralAntillesMaybe I'll strap the Beagle to the back and turn the N800 into a VNC frontend. . . .08:13
*** sp3000 has joined #maemo08:13
Stskeepstekojo: so does the website actually run on a 770? ;>08:14
*** riot has quit IRC08:14
GeneralAntillesI'm so glad to see some real progress on that in the last sprint review.08:15
Stskeepswe're getting N800s?08:15
GeneralAntillesNah, just more parallelization. ;)08:16
tekojoStskeeps: hard to say, I only have a 81008:16
GeneralAntillestekojo, he was poking fun at the fact that is so godawful slow. ;)08:16
tekojoI know, and it is slow08:17
GeneralAntillesThe running joke is that the website is actually hosted on a 770.08:17
*** minti has quit IRC08:17
*** minti has joined #maemo08:17
tekojoYes, but I can't tell, I think it is a secret08:18
*** borism_ has quit IRC08:19
*** riot has joined #maemo08:19
GeneralAntillesI think I may just end up turning this Beagle into a compiler for my tablets for the time being. . . .08:19
*** xkill has quit IRC08:26
*** avs has quit IRC08:27
StskeepsGeneralAntilles: saw my Deblet Hack Challenges post btw? could be an interesting way to entice developers for Maemo (if one is made for that) to develop things that are normally considered needed for the platform - where the thread is used for combing user knowledge such as hints how you could get started etc08:31
moontigerhello tekojo :)08:31
tekojohello moontiger08:31
moontigerso you work for nokia?08:31
moontigertell them thanks for the new sb2 toolchain ... its wayyyyyyyyyyy better than before :)08:32
tekojoHaven't tried it myself yet, but I'll tell them08:33
moontigerespecially the anjuta plug-in08:33
tekojowill do08:33
moontigerwhat exactly is your role in the scheme of things?08:33
*** Addison has joined #maemo08:34
tekojoTo see that is in good shape from the technical point of view08:35
AddisonGreetings and salutations gentlemen!08:35
tekojoservices, hardware and all that08:35
rm_youdid the server upgrades already happen?08:36
tekojoNot yet, working on it.08:36
tekojoIt's in the last sprint before Berlin08:37
*** Khertan2 has joined #maemo08:38
*** qwerty12 has joined #maemo08:38
Stskeepsmorning qwerty1208:38
AddisonQwerty!  What's up G Money Dog Nuts?!?!?!!!!!08:39
qwerty12morning Stskeeps08:39
qwerty12hi Addison08:39
AddisonAnything monumentally exciting going on with you today, qwerty?08:39
*** Khertan1 has quit IRC08:39
*** t0h has quit IRC08:40
AddisonIf so, don't leave out any of the filthy details!  :)08:40
*** t0h has joined #maemo08:40
*** skibur has quit IRC08:41
qwerty12Heh, this is why I love my N800:
*** nomis has quit IRC08:44
*** nomis has joined #maemo08:44
GeneralAntillesThey were discussed in the sprint review08:44
GeneralAntillesWe're close08:44
GeneralAntillesTesting should be going on as we speak.08:44
AddisonWhat the crap did you run to get that screenshot there qwert?08:45
AddisonOh, and what does that screenshot possibly even mean?08:45
qwerty12Oh, it's kismet actually running for more than an hour.08:46
AddisonI thought kismet was something about hooking up with a girl.  Now you've lost me.  :(08:47
Stskeepsqwerty12: any of the challenges you want to work on? :>08:48
qwerty12Stskeeps: I could do the mpd one easily, I've already done it for maemo08:49
AddisonYou could ask qwerty to build you a flux capacitor and he would say that it was already done.  :)08:50
*** rsalveti has joined #maemo08:51
qwerty12Na, /me head is hurting08:51
*** rm_you_ has joined #maemo08:51
AddisonWell qwerty, you're probably the smartest one here.  I don't even know how to change the blinker fluid for my car.08:52
qwerty12Meh, I'm definitely not the smartest. :)08:53
AddisonOh that's right.  You told me about your grades at school.  Let me take that compliment back!  *lol*08:53
qwerty12Stskeeps: Just a note, you would have to use the esd from maemo if you want a esd daemo08:54
qwerty12(unfortunately, we cannot build our own)08:55
GeneralAntillesSooo, who wants to flesh out ? :P08:55
qwerty12sudo gainroot08:56
qwerty12to install from a repo08:56
qwerty12apt-get install whatever08:56
qwerty12to install from a local deb08:56
qwerty12dpkg -i /path/to/.deb08:56
qwerty12Of course, that would have to be heavily expanded :P08:56
GeneralAntillesYeah, yeah.08:57
*** mbuf has quit IRC08:57
GeneralAntillesI could do it myself.08:57
GeneralAntillesI just don't want to.08:57
*** mbuf has joined #maemo08:57
rm_you_so voting started? >_>08:58
qwerty12Stskeeps: btw, is the only way to compile stuff for debian is on a tablet? I don't want to be like lcuk :P08:58
GeneralAntillesrm_you_, why the face?08:59
rm_you_no reason :P08:59
Stskeepsqwerty12: yeah, i noticed (esound), regarding compile stuff - i think it's possible to set up a a debian armel target in sb09:02
*** geaaru has joined #maemo09:03
qwerty12Stskeeps: Cool, I really don't want to touch some of this stuff on a tablet. I'm tempted to throw it out when using MicroB, doing a compile would make actually throw it out09:03
Stskeepsi did a linux kernel compile. isnotthatbad09:03
qwerty12sbox does that for me :P09:03
*** Wikier has joined #maemo09:05
*** rm_you has quit IRC09:05
*** moontiger has quit IRC09:05
Stskeepsqwerty12: post updated indicating your interests in some of the challenges09:08
qwerty12Cool, sorry to be unsure about it but I need to do some work here as well09:08
Stskeepsofcourse :)09:09
*** Addison has quit IRC09:09
Stskeepsmy first priority is my own work too, so, deblet is just a nice hobby :>09:09
*** n800m has quit IRC09:09
qwerty12I'm booting into debian now to see what is the problem with mpd09:10
rm_you_omfg sweet! it's working!!!09:10
rm_you_IT'S ALIVE!!!09:10
*** rm_you_ is now known as rm_you09:10
qwerty12I'm excited for you but I don't know what to be excited about :P09:10
rm_youi got two residential cable lines, 12mbit each, running in parallel09:10
qwerty12crap, nice one09:11
rm_youand my debian router machine is doing load balancing09:11
*** CptLaptop has joined #maemo09:11
rm_youone torrent runs at 1.4MB/s down on one connection, 2.8MB/s with both :P09:11
rm_you$97 a month for two 12mbit lines and basic cable09:12
GAN800Not bad09:12
rm_you3.0MBps :P09:12
* rm_you dances09:12
qwerty12effing hell, all I did was install debian, boot into it, install irssi and run shutdown -r now and now it doesn't want to boot :P09:12
rm_youi need to grab a third line09:12
rm_youscrew the cable tv09:13
rm_youi need more internet :P09:13
qwerty12yer, if it's anything like british cable, it's easy to hack09:13
rm_youi don't even care09:13
rm_youat 3Mbps, i can stream 720p, i think :P09:14
Pebbywhat's the upstream, though? ;)09:15
rm_you.... 2Mbps <_<09:15
*** n800m has joined #maemo09:16
rm_youcombined >_<09:16
qwerty12Well, google have made an linux chrome port but after the security flaw, I don't think I want to install it :P09:16
Pebbyi wish comcast would sell me my package i have with up/downstream reversed09:17
doc|homea security flaw already?09:17
n800mpfft security flaw09:21
doc|homepffft, *previously patched* security flaw09:22
*** mavhk has joined #maemo09:24
*** _marcell_ has joined #maemo09:26
rm_youpfft, more like a user stupidity flaw09:27
* rm_you is not worried09:27
*** mavhk is now known as mavhc09:27
doc|homerm_you: how?09:27
* doc|home thinks we have our first chromium fanboi :)09:28
rm_youany time a user has to actually click through things to make the bad things happen, that's a user stupidity flaw <_<09:28
rm_youyes, it could be better, but it isn't by any means the "gaping security flaw" that all the news sites are toting it as09:29
rm_youi was thinking it would like, automatically execute code on my machine09:29
rm_youwhich would be bad09:29
rm_youas long as i'm semi-intelligent, there's no danger <_<09:29
rm_youalso, i hadn't even used chrome till just now... i downloaded it about 3 minutes ago specifically to test out this "flaw"09:30
rm_youi just hate all the fear-mongering09:30
n800mif this is the worst news, it's doing pretty well as far as security09:31
qwerty12GeneralAntilles: No fair, I want to see more beagleboard porn09:32
rm_youit's open source.09:32
doc|homerm_you: java apps are supposed to be sandboxed, if they can save shit to your harddisk it's most definitely a problem09:32
GeneralAntillesqwerty12, I left the good camera at home09:33
mavhcjava apps can save to your hd, you're thinking of applets09:33
qwerty12GeneralAntilles: Ah :)09:33
GeneralAntillesI'm not sure I can bring myself to shoot pictures of it with the crap one I've got here.09:33
doc|homemavhc: yes, sorry, I meant applets09:33
rm_you... mine popped up and said "where would you like to save this file?" so i selected a place, and then it downloaded, and popped itself into the download bar on the bottom... and when i clicked it, it ran... exactly expected behavior, IMO09:33
doc|homerm_you: that doesn't sound like what the article mentions09:33
mavhcwhat's this gaping security flaw, url?09:33
rm_youbasically the same thing in opera, except i need to double click09:34
rm_youfirefox, same, just requires doubleclick09:34
*** sean has joined #maemo09:34
rm_youthis is stupid <_<09:34
*** sean is now known as Guest9043909:35
doc|homeif there's a save dialog then yeah, it's stupid, but wasn't it the lack of one they were mentioning09:35
*** eocanha has joined #maemo09:35
n800mit's like cheney iis writing software reviews09:35
doc|homecheney can write?09:35
qwerty12That piece of shit can't do nothing09:35
n800mwith hot lead09:35
*** pleemans has joined #maemo09:36
rm_youohhhh, in the options i have "ask me for download location" set09:36
n800mwhat a cheap fucking way to get hits on a website09:36
n800mwhy didn't i think of that09:36
*** tekojo has quit IRC09:36
*** tekojo has joined #maemo09:36
rm_yousec, lemmie turn that off in firefox and see if it does the same thing09:36
*** simon_ has joined #maemo09:37
*** dneary has joined #maemo09:38
rm_youah no, firefox doesn't do what i expect it to do...09:40
*** sergio has joined #maemo09:41
rm_youmeaning, it seems to entirely ignore my settings for auto-downloading09:41
rm_youi guess that's "more secure"?!09:41
rm_youno, 2 :/09:41
rm_youi need to update, don't I <_<09:41
*** straind has joined #maemo09:42
n800mi use 3 and i can save something with one click09:42
n800mi don't see how that's any diferent09:42
*** rmoravcik has joined #maemo09:42
n800malways been able to do it09:42
rm_youso am i not the only person that thinks this "security scare" is a bit far-fetched?09:43
n800mit's bull09:43
n800mbut it;s a good wy to get hits09:44
rm_youyeah, thanks09:44
rm_yousomeone else thinks it's kind of bogus09:44
aspectgaping security flaw + chrome in your link title09:44
aspectonly way to garner more bloglinks would be to mention the iphone09:44
*** n800m is now known as elekt09:45
*** guardian has quit IRC09:49
*** fish_ has quit IRC09:52
*** scheng has quit IRC09:53
rm_youwow, so that safari nightly build is actually pretty neat09:58
rm_youi like watching acid3 just fly to completion :P09:58
*** benh has quit IRC09:59
*** straind2 has quit IRC10:00
Stskeepsqwerty12: doesn't want to boot?10:03
qwerty12Stskeeps: nope10:03
Stskeepswhere does it stall?10:04
qwerty12give me a sec, i'll start it again10:04
Stskeepsi had a weird issue with screen being dimmed, rebooting from ssh, and then it just went into a dead mode where it was obviously restarted, but it didn't want to boot from power key10:04
Stskeepshad to pop battery10:05
qwerty12Stskeeps: /etc/rc2.d/S89cron: 49: tail: not found10:05
qwerty12Stopping boot logger: bootlog10:05
qwerty12dsp_dld: event detected10:05
Stskeepswtf @ tail not found10:05
qwerty12The most exciting thing I did was install irssi :P10:05
qwerty12I dunno :(10:05
*** sergio_ has joined #maemo10:06
Stskeepsext2 or ext3?10:06
Stskeepsi've seen extreme examples where ext2 wiped out a lot of files10:06
Stskeepsi use ext3 for this reason10:06
GeneralAntillesqwerty12, added a few more shots with the crap camera. :P10:06
qwerty12Stskeeps: I will reformat ext410:06
Stskeepseven if it does more wearing, it's more secur10:06
qwerty12GeneralAntilles: Thanks :)10:06
rm_youi was like... ext4! woot! :P10:06
qwerty12lol :P10:06
rm_younow with.... even more journaling?10:07
rm_youanyways, sleep :P10:07
* rm_you sleeps10:07
Stskeepsare the mmc cards on two different channels btw? *considers journalling on external device..*10:07
qwerty12no idea10:08
aquatixmorning all10:09
* rm_you wonders how well chrome//linux would port to a mobile device, like, for instance, a NIT10:10
GeneralAntillesIt's about as bloated as it can get10:11
GeneralAntilles~200MB of RAM doing nothing.10:11
GeneralAntillesIt's designed to thrive on speed and power.10:11
GeneralAntillesNot play nice in a limited environment.10:11
rm_youjust seems like it would be nice to have a webkit browser with a really nice interface10:12
Stskeepsepiphany-webkit exists though10:12
*** bergie has joined #maemo10:12
rm_youwell, sleep10:13
* rm_you actually sleeps10:13
* qwerty12 got directfb compiled with the omap gfx driver, I'll compile some test apps later and try them out :>10:14
*** qwerty12 has quit IRC10:14
*** L0cutus has quit IRC10:16
*** tbf has joined #maemo10:20
*** L0cutus has joined #maemo10:20
*** fUD has quit IRC10:21
*** smancke has joined #maemo10:21
*** sergio has quit IRC10:21
*** benh has joined #maemo10:22
*** BabelO has joined #maemo10:22
*** sergio_ has quit IRC10:23
*** sergio_ has joined #maemo10:24
*** rsalveti has quit IRC10:26
*** rsalveti has joined #maemo10:26
*** konttori has joined #maemo10:29
*** lbt has joined #maemo10:31
*** ricko73 has quit IRC10:34
*** AD-N770 has joined #maemo10:40
*** sergio__ has joined #maemo10:42
*** sergio_ has quit IRC10:42
*** luogni has joined #maemo10:44
*** scheng has joined #maemo10:49
*** sergio_ has joined #maemo10:49
*** pvanhoof has joined #maemo10:55
*** sergio__ has quit IRC10:59
*** Guest90439 has quit IRC11:06
*** bergie_ has joined #maemo11:07
*** zap has joined #maemo11:10
*** bilboed-pi has joined #maemo11:10
*** mk500 has quit IRC11:10
*** ricko73 has joined #maemo11:17
JaffaMorning, all11:20
*** RichiH has left #maemo11:22
*** bergie has quit IRC11:23
*** mavhk has joined #maemo11:27
*** mavhc has quit IRC11:27
*** povbot has joined #maemo11:39
*** IRSeekBot has joined #maemo11:40
*** blafasel is now known as Blafasel11:40
*** TeringTuby has joined #maemo11:42
*** geaaru has quit IRC11:44
*** derf_ has joined #maemo11:44
*** VDVsx has joined #maemo11:45
*** povbot` has quit IRC11:45
*** gletelli_ has joined #maemo11:48
*** geaaru has joined #maemo11:53
*** TeringTu1y has quit IRC11:54
*** derf has quit IRC11:55
*** derf_ is now known as derf11:55
*** gletelli has quit IRC12:02
*** mk500 has joined #maemo12:06
*** jpuderer has joined #maemo12:07
*** Sho_ has joined #maemo12:14
*** Sho_ has quit IRC12:19
*** _marcell_ has quit IRC12:20
*** Dar has joined #maemo12:21
*** _marcell_ has joined #maemo12:22
*** Free_maN has joined #maemo12:27
*** Sho_ has joined #maemo12:28
*** scheng has quit IRC12:32
*** lpotter has quit IRC12:41
*** lpotter has joined #maemo12:41
*** minti has quit IRC12:44
*** Pebby has quit IRC12:50
*** minti has joined #maemo12:52
*** solmumaha has joined #maemo12:58
*** _berto_ has joined #maemo12:59
*** CptLaptop has quit IRC13:00
*** bilboed-pi has quit IRC13:02
*** scheng has joined #maemo13:03
*** bilboed-pi has joined #maemo13:04
*** geaaru has quit IRC13:09
*** nomis has quit IRC13:10
*** nomis has joined #maemo13:10
*** lardman|gone is now known as lardman13:12
*** mardi8101 has quit IRC13:19
*** Tuco2 has joined #maemo13:23
*** benh has quit IRC13:23
*** CptLaptop has joined #maemo13:23
*** Tuco2 is now known as Tuco13:24
*** harryl has quit IRC13:25
*** scheng has quit IRC13:27
*** dneary has quit IRC13:31
*** andre__ has quit IRC13:36
*** ian_brasil has joined #maemo13:36
*** andre__ has joined #maemo13:37
*** mavhk has joined #maemo13:37
*** Anunakin has joined #maemo13:43
*** Alystair has quit IRC13:46
*** solmumaha has quit IRC13:46
*** Stskeeps has quit IRC13:47
*** Stskeeps has joined #maemo13:47
*** mavhc has quit IRC13:50
*** pierlux has quit IRC13:50
*** barisione has quit IRC13:50
*** sven-tek has joined #maemo13:51
*** barisione has joined #maemo13:51
*** pierlux has joined #maemo13:56
*** mavhc has joined #maemo13:59
*** notmart has joined #maemo13:59
*** mavhk has quit IRC14:04
*** _al_ has quit IRC14:06
*** _al_ has joined #maemo14:10
*** ttmrichter has quit IRC14:11
*** zap has quit IRC14:11
*** ttmrichter has joined #maemo14:11
*** lcuk has joined #maemo14:17
*** Tuco has quit IRC14:24
lcukhmmm voting page comes up with only "Maemo Community council election September 2008" and no content after i login with the token specified14:25
*** Khertan has quit IRC14:25
lardmanclick on that link14:25
*** Khertan has joined #maemo14:26
lcuklardman, i did14:26
jottfor me it took *ages* to load.14:27
*** mavhk has joined #maemo14:27
jotti just put the tab in the background and did other stuff ;)14:27
lcukwent here:   selected which election, entered email addy and token, then it brought up an almost blank page14:27
lcukpage is complete though14:27
lcukit was quick and is not pending any further information14:27
* lcuk must not be welcome to vote :(14:28
lardmansure you didn't sleep-vote last night? :)14:28
lcukpositive - first time ive used the token14:29
lcukand no wine recently either14:29
jottbut beer? :)14:29
jottor schnaps? :)14:30
lcuki had bacon14:30
jotthmmm :)14:30
* XTL is starving14:30
lcuki wasnt going to, but the bread was frozen, and a ham sandwich on toast just isnt the same- so i made a blt :)14:30
* jott gets hungry too after all this bacon talk :)14:30
lcuk:D heh i love my  keyword trigger.  i am eternally grateful for lardman for giving me the idea14:31
lardmanmaking me hungry too, only 30min till lunch :)14:31
*** MoRpHeUz has joined #maemo14:35
lcukheh lol14:35
jottlcuk infected everyone with a bacon virus14:36
lcuktheres no reported bugs14:36
* lcuk is confuddled14:36
lcukif you think its bad now, just wait for the summit14:36
lardmantry again?14:36
lardmanno bacon in Germany you mean?#14:36
jottyou get bacon here, no worries :)14:37
lardmangood good14:37
lcuklardman, no i have written "i am hungry"14:38
lcukthink of the iphone app "i am rich" but involving bacon :)14:38
jottyou should really put the word bacon in it ;)14:38
jottotherwise you might just get a salad ;)14:38
lcukyer, but  if you put bacon into a salad, it stops being a sald and becomes "hunt the bacon"14:39
jotti heard that before ;)14:39
*** bilboed-pi has quit IRC14:39
lcuk;) some comedian guy in a standup routine telling far too many bacon jokes14:40
jottbut remember it might be salad without bacon :).14:40
jottah right. i saw this ;)14:40
lcuklooking at the results ive got, its a problem within vote.php - something is making it bail before its added the content for the next step (i assume candidate  list)14:41
*** mavhc has quit IRC14:42
*** mavhk is now known as mavhc14:43
*** bilboed-pi has joined #maemo14:45
*** harryl has joined #maemo14:47
*** elekt has quit IRC14:48
*** andrewfblack has joined #maemo14:49
*** lardman is now known as lardman|mmm_baco14:51
*** harryl is now known as kcome14:53
lcuklooks like it cannot open the database - i dont know tonnes about php, but following the source for vote.php (actual source dave gave a link before he went on holiday a few weeks ago)14:54
_marcell_lcuk: I asked bergie to take a look14:59
lcuki also sent a mail back to dave :) thanks marcell15:00
*** derf_ has joined #maemo15:01
lcukdamn, gotta run, bbiab15:04
jottlcuk: if ($user=="lcuk") exit(); ? ;)15:06
*** hklein has joined #maemo15:10
*** gomiam has joined #maemo15:10
*** cwiiis has joined #maemo15:13
*** derf has quit IRC15:16
*** derf_ is now known as derf15:16
*** cwiiis is now known as Cwiiis15:19
*** hari has quit IRC15:21
*** tekojo has quit IRC15:21
*** gomiam1 has joined #maemo15:23
*** caio1982 has joined #maemo15:27
*** roadies has joined #maemo15:28
roadieswhat is the gstreamer-tools package apt-get repository url?  I have installed deb bora free non-free and deb bora main into sources.list but it doesnt work15:31
*** mib_q4ti1b has joined #maemo15:35
*** mib1 has joined #maemo15:36
mib1Hi all15:36
*** mavhk has joined #maemo15:36
mib1Just a quick question15:37
*** gomiam has quit IRC15:38
mib1Can I repartition the external mmc card on a N810 using the usb cable? The N810 is unable to finish booting because I borked rootfs partition, and I want to put debian in the external card to boot from there15:39
*** cmarcelo has joined #maemo15:39
glassdunno why it wouldn't be possible15:40
*** blade_runner has joined #maemo15:40
*** Khertan has quit IRC15:40
*** cmarcelo has quit IRC15:40
*** Khertan has joined #maemo15:41
mib1That is, the access to the mmc card through usb cable is direct then15:41
Stskeepsmib1: rootfs partition, - cloned OS2008 or?15:43
lirithe google maps service now allows mapping of my country (probably not complete but still!!!)15:43
lirigreat, now I can use maemo mapper with my n810 (used a roadmap svn branch until now)15:44
mib1rootfs partition in internal jffs2 flash, Diablo, I borked it by linking /var/tmp to /tmp to avoid writes to internal flash15:45
mib1Now it hangs at the end of boot process. I need to boot from mmc to fix it15:46
*** tbf has quit IRC15:50
*** geaaru has joined #maemo15:51
roadieswhat is the responsibility for OS2008 gstreamer?  thanks...15:52
crashanddieroadies, erhm, everything sound related ?15:53
crashanddieroadies, well, not everything, but it's just a very big thing, why ?15:53
roadiescrashanddie: I'm trying to use the gst-launch tool... which isnt on my OS2008 n81015:54
crashanddiedo you have diablo or just chinook ?15:54
crashanddiehang on, lemme try15:55
*** mavhc has quit IRC15:56
*** mavhc has joined #maemo15:56
crashanddieroadies, if it's of any comfort to you, I don't have it on my NIT either ;)15:56
*** kevinverma has joined #Maemo15:57
roadiescrashanddie: one always love company.... even when its two deer in headlights ;-)15:57
*** mib1 has left #maemo15:59
crashanddieroadies, gst-launch is apparently in the gstreamer-tools package15:59
crashanddieroadies, which sadly, I don't see in the repo16:00
*** dneary has joined #maemo16:00
roadiesyes and that defines my problem.....16:00
roadiescrashanddie: thanks for looking16:01
*** mavhk has quit IRC16:03
*** hklein is now known as MrTuttle16:04
*** aloisiojr has joined #maemo16:06
*** mavhk has joined #maemo16:07
*** sven-tek has quit IRC16:08
*** __t has joined #maemo16:10
*** vcgomes[away] is now known as vcgomes16:10
*** gomiam1 has quit IRC16:11
RST38hHehe, darius is at it again16:20
*** Wikier has quit IRC16:22
*** ustunozgur has joined #maemo16:25
*** mavhc has quit IRC16:29
*** geaaru has quit IRC16:30
*** simboss has quit IRC16:31
*** vivijim has joined #maemo16:33
*** simboss has joined #maemo16:34
*** oilinki3 has joined #maemo16:35
*** ustunozgur_ has joined #maemo16:38
*** ustunozgur has quit IRC16:39
*** rsalveti has quit IRC16:39
*** chenca has joined #maemo16:40
*** thopiekar has joined #maemo16:41
*** lmoura has joined #maemo16:45
*** hrw|gone is now known as hrw16:45
*** birunko has joined #maemo16:48
*** geaaru has joined #maemo16:48
*** _marcell_ has quit IRC16:48
*** etrunko has joined #maemo16:48
*** atul has quit IRC16:49
*** efleury has joined #maemo16:49
*** thopiekar has left #maemo16:50
*** oilinki has quit IRC16:52
*** madhav has joined #maemo16:53
*** L0cutus has quit IRC16:54
*** lardman|mmm_baco is now known as lardman16:56
*** roadies has left #maemo16:57
*** jnettlet has quit IRC16:57
*** jacques has quit IRC16:59
*** jnettlet has joined #maemo17:00
*** tjafk1 has joined #maemo17:03
*** andrunko has joined #maemo17:03
*** Sho_ has quit IRC17:05
* lardman wonders if the latest tremor code is markedly better than the probaby rather old tremor-lowmem code17:06
*** Sho_ has joined #maemo17:08
*** Sho_ has quit IRC17:09
derfI doubt it. The whole project has been fairly dormant for years.17:10
*** L0cutus has joined #maemo17:10
lardmanI've seen a mistake in the lowmem-no-byte code, namely the requirement of a 8bit byte type17:10
derfIf you've got the RAM, though, you shouldn't be using lowmem.17:10
lardmannah, pretty limited really on the DSP17:11
derfIt's much slower.17:11
lardmanwell that may be troublesome17:11
lardmanare there figures for the memory requrements lying about anywhere?17:11
derfCheck the mailing list archives.17:12
lardmancodebook.c on the latest Tremor code looks far less complex than that in the lowmem-(nobyte) code17:12
lardmanok, will do17:12
derfI seem to recall some, but I'm typing this on my NIT at a conference, so...17:12
lardmanno probs, I'm just wondering if I should cut my losses and think about porting from Tremor proper, or continuing the way I am17:13
*** matt_c has quit IRC17:15
*** geaaru has quit IRC17:15
*** notmart has quit IRC17:16
*** hfwilke has joined #maemo17:16
*** t_s_o has joined #maemo17:17
*** rsalveti has joined #maemo17:17
*** Stecchino has quit IRC17:17
*** Stecchino has joined #maemo17:18
*** tjafk2 has quit IRC17:19
*** SDuensin has joined #Maemo17:20
*** florian has quit IRC17:20
*** florian has joined #maemo17:21
*** _berto__ has joined #maemo17:21
lardman they make it sound so easy :)17:21
*** qwerty12 has joined #maemo17:23
*** n800m has joined #maemo17:25
qwerty12woot, new kernel source diablo available. I'll update my kernel to that version, even if it is the same :P17:26
lardmanlcuk: you see dneary's email?17:26
lardmanqwerty12: :)17:26
dnearysomeone called?17:26
qwerty12hey lardman :)17:26
lardmandneary: lcuk was complaining that he couldn't vote earlier17:26
dnearylardman: Ah17:26
dnearyI send so many :)17:26
fredlardman: oooooh17:26
dnearyI was wondering which one you were talking about17:26
*** minti has quit IRC17:26
*** _berto_ has quit IRC17:27
lardmanfair enough, the one that just popped up in my inbox then :)17:27
dnearyFunny - I've been getting a lot of people replying to the voting token mail, resulting in that thread having new mail, but it being slightly hidden in Thunderbird on account of the thread being older17:27
dnearylardman: Ah! That clears it up17:27
*** _berto__ is now known as _berto_17:28
aquatixandrewfblack: you here?17:32
*** Cptnodegard has joined #maemo17:32
*** profoX` has joined #maemo17:37
*** matt_c has joined #maemo17:38
andrewfblackI'm here17:39
*** matt_c has quit IRC17:39
*** matt_c has joined #maemo17:39
*** eton has quit IRC17:42
*** setanta has joined #maemo17:43
lcukserious note, tsk tsk - you made changes to something which didnt need them - and you also forgot to update the date embedded within the vote.php page (it sends it to the client as meta info) and also, if theres a voting problem you left the gnome address there :P17:43
lcukhmmm where did half that go17:43
lcukdneary hahahaha @ changes, does it mean i can vote now?17:44
dnearylcuk: Normally, yes17:44
lcukmentally reverse the order of those posts ^17:44
*** ian_brasil has quit IRC17:45
*** Anunakin has quit IRC17:45
* lcuk made a similar cockup today :)17:45
andrewfblackI still can't figure out why I didn't get a vote email to my second maemo account17:46
andrewfblackI don't know if my work killed it as spam or what17:46
aquatixsue IT17:47
*** pleemans has quit IRC17:48
*** Dar has quit IRC17:48
*** ian_brasil has joined #maemo17:50
*** tekojo has joined #maemo17:51
*** ttmrichter has quit IRC17:51
*** cmarcelo has joined #maemo17:52
*** Khertan has quit IRC17:53
qwerty12~curse hal, udev and all the other crap that automounts my partitions17:53
infobotMay the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, hal, udev and all the other crap that automounts my partitions !17:53
*** balrog-k1n has joined #maemo17:53
*** sven-tek has joined #maemo17:53
sven-tekthe time is right to check out diable now :-)17:54
qwerty12lmao, darius is calling anidel a troll and darius is a legend in poland17:54
*** tjafk1 has quit IRC17:55
*** Stskeeps has quit IRC17:55
*** Stskeeps has joined #maemo17:55
*** tjafk1 has joined #maemo17:55
*** Cptnodegard has quit IRC17:55
*** behdad has joined #maemo17:58
tekojoHi all!17:58
*** Zic has joined #maemo17:59
tekojoI thought I'd make an introduction17:59
tekojoI'm the new Nokia project manager for the hardware and service side18:00
florianhi tekojo18:00
qwerty12Heh, nice to meet you tekojo. I'm the local #maemo troll :P :)18:00
andre__cool, tekojo is around! hej hej! (we met a week ago) :)18:00
tekojoHi andre! good to talk again18:01
tekojoqwerty12 I notice, I've lurked a couple of times here this week18:01
qwerty12:), I do have my occasions where I am useful :).18:02
andrewfblackjust a few qwerty12 :)18:02
tekojoBased on my limited experience, definately yes18:03
*** rmoravcik has quit IRC18:03
qwerty12I just have to curb my swearing habit on this channel :)18:03
tekojoIs this a family friendly place?18:03
qwerty12Hmm, I'm 15, anyone younger here? Others swear sometimes but not as much as me + I use more words :P18:04
*** nelson has quit IRC18:04
*** balrog-kun has quit IRC18:04
andre__more or less, apart from the daily rant on nokia :-P18:04
Stskeepsor complaining about code18:05
andrewfblackyoung people always swear more18:05
qwerty12I'm ~lart'ing and ~curse'ing all the time18:05
qwerty12~lart andrewfblack for that stereotype for example18:05
* infobot smacks andrewfblack for that stereotype up side the head with a clue-by-4 for example18:05
andrewfblackhey shouldn't you be in school18:06
qwerty12Nay, this is BST, I was already out an hour ago :P18:06
andrewfblackyeah I know I was just messing with you18:07
andre__tekojo, are there plans to blog on planet maemo about your tasks (and maybe changes)?18:07
Stskeeps <- lxde is kinda neat on the tablet18:07
tekojoYes, I'll try to get the team maemo blog going again18:07
andre__ah, right, even the team one... i like that idea18:08
andre__looking forward to that18:08
tekojoYes, and I intend to someone else to give an occational line or two too18:08
* yacoob skims backlog. qwerty12, you youngling! get off my lawn!18:08
*** nelson has joined #maemo18:09
Stskeepsqwerty12: after a year on irc i swore like a sailor18:09
* qwerty12 pops yacoob. You get off the lawn, you're staining it with your blood!18:09
Stskeeps(started at 13 :P)18:09
qwerty12Stskeeps: lol18:09
andrewfblackqwerty12 was in diapers when I started using IRC :)18:10
yacoobBah! When I was your age I... I... uh... I kept music down, you little!18:10
qwerty12Stskeeps: Sorry but I switched from nit-env-stskeeps to the gnome one. env-stskeeps is too minimal for me18:10
qwerty12andrewfblack: so, is that why you use mibbit?18:10
qwerty12yacoob: lol :P18:10
Stskeepsqwerty12: i got tired of nit-env-stskeeps too - it was mainly something to illustrate use of deblet tech18:10
Stskeepsqwerty12: new std environment would prolly be lxde based18:11
qwerty12cool, lxde looks good18:11
andrewfblackqwerty12 I use mibbit because I have enough crap on my work computer to get me fired as it is18:11
qwerty12andrewfblack: have you seen my user area at school?18:11
andrewfblackI havn't found a decent looking on that runs off of USB yet18:12
andrewfblackqwerty12 nope18:12
*** kcome has quit IRC18:12
*** mbuf has quit IRC18:12
qwerty12I keep games and some hax tools there18:12
qwerty12~lart directfb for the omap driver not working18:12
* infobot executes killall -HUP directfb for the omap driver not working18:12
andrewfblackI think alot more on my school computer as well but back then we didn't need admin to install stuff like now18:13
qwerty12I needed admin, so I went out and got it18:13
qwerty12Stskeeps: soon as I get debian working, I'll work on mpd for sure18:14
qwerty12Stskeeps: without a proper esd daemon though, the sound is going to be awful though unless alsa actually works in debian?18:14
Stskeepsqwerty12: fillin package that performs modifications should do the trick18:15
Stskeepsalsa does work18:15
Stskeepsatleast alsaplayer does18:15
qwerty12Stskeeps: alsaplayer was producing *horrible* sound y/day18:15
qwerty12Stskeeps: dunno about a fillin package, I prefer to make changes directly to the deb file and then update the md5sums18:16
qwerty12or delete the md5sums if I changed/added too many files :P18:16
*** bergie_ has quit IRC18:20
* lbt couldn't resist prodding the troll18:21
qwerty12lbt: did you get the initfs toolchain set up?18:21
lbtdownloaded it18:22
* qwerty12 used the tar.gz version18:22
lbtbeen <shock>working</shock> today18:22
qwerty12work?!? :O18:22
* qwerty12 had all double lessons today >.<18:22
lbtI know18:22
*** ab has quit IRC18:23
*** kcome has joined #maemo18:23
*** smancke has quit IRC18:26
Stskeepszenity --scale --max-value=127 --print-partial | sudo xargs -L 1 /bin/set_backlight18:28
Stskeeps^ backlight scale in a line18:28
Stskeeps(set_backlight > something/panel/backlight_level18:28
Stskeepsi guess i should use dsme instead thoug18:29
*** sergio_ has quit IRC18:30
lardmanmm, that itt thread is quite entertaining18:37
*** nn800n has joined #maemo18:37
ustunozgur_hi, is there a way to turn off the warning when installing a non-nokia app? ""Nokia has neither created nor delivered this software ..."18:38
hrwhack h-a-m18:39
qwerty12ustunozgur_: Modify the app installer source, I made some patches somewhere for removing that message but they are out of date18:39
*** troyh has quit IRC18:39
*** troyh has joined #maemo18:40
ustunozgur_qwerty12: ok, thanks.18:40
qwerty12I don't think I have them anymore but I'm not a programmer but I was able to read that code :)18:41
andrewfblackstrange I am banned from joining a channel I've never joined before18:41
qwerty12Probably because you are using mibbit18:42
andrewfblackthats screwed up18:42
qwerty12some chans don't accept web client18:42
glasssome channels require identify18:42
ustunozgur_the function names are appropriately "annoy user" and such. here
*** simboss has quit IRC18:45
qwerty12look for show legalese too18:45
*** tich has joined #maemo18:46
qwerty12I just patch the source to jump straight to the installing function, you have to patch it in two places, one for installing from a repo, one for installing from a local deb18:46
qwerty12iirc, the file you want to look at is operations.cc18:47
andrewfblackwell I even tried to install Mirc and can't connect they must be blocking a port18:48
andrewfblackI guess I could VNC to home computer and just Chat from there18:48
qwerty12You should run linux on your home computer and ssh from your workplace ;)18:49
andrewfblackI run linux on 2 of my servers but windows on my main computers18:50
*** n800m has quit IRC18:50
andrewfblackI have always played to many games to use linux on main computer18:50
Khertan2do you know if darius jack come to maemo summit ?18:52
qwerty12If he is, have the tomatoes ready18:52
lardman interesting18:53
Khertan2arg i ve think to buy some some week before ...18:54
qwerty12lardman: mind sharing me an English version please? :)18:54
Khertan2as if i buy it now ... there will not moisture ...18:54
lardmanneed it translated to cockney rhyming slang hey? ;)18:55
Khertan2s/will/will have18:55
qwerty12lardman: Nah, hate that rubbish, I'm not even from London, instead it's all about modern slang :P18:55
Khertan2> Instead of just arguing (which is quite annoying BTW), why18:55
Khertan2> dont you write18:55
Khertan2> some code18:55
Khertan2haha ... very funny18:55
*** AD-N770 has quit IRC18:56
qwerty12Khertan2: Nice Python code :)18:56
lardmancu all tomorrow18:57
*** lardman is now known as lardman|gone18:57 == darius jack ?18:58
*** nn800n has quit IRC18:58
*** __t has quit IRC19:03
*** tich is now known as elekt19:07
*** skibur has joined #maemo19:08
*** thopiekar has joined #maemo19:10
*** luogni has quit IRC19:10
*** booiiing has quit IRC19:13
*** booiiing has joined #maemo19:15
andrewfblackyou know I remember windows used to come with an IRC client I wonde why they got ride of it19:15
johnxProbably to push new users towards MSN19:16
*** dholbert has joined #maemo19:17
*** notmart has joined #maemo19:17
*** errordeveloper has quit IRC19:18
*** errordeveloper has joined #maemo19:18
Stskeeps'lo johnx19:18
johnxhow's it going?19:19
*** mardi__ has quit IRC19:19
Stskeepsjohnx: i'm writing a small thing that uses zenity and is insertable into lxde's application launch bar19:19
Stskeeps(that panel preferences is wonderful)19:19
Stskeepsalso i've added nit-env-lxde (basically what is needed to get lxde running, nothing else) to repository19:19
Stskeepsjohnx: oh, and it's the brightness adjustment :P19:19
johnxI'm still trying to make matchbox-keyboard play nice with openbox19:20
Stskeepsyeah, that's prolly biggest challenge19:20
johnxI didn't have much luck so I'm going to try lxde panel+matchbox19:20
johnxI really did want the option of "floating" some windows though :/19:20
Stskeepsyeah.. what about GNOME on screen keyboard?19:21
Stskeepsor doesnt it sit itself ideally into the screen?19:21
johnxI haven't looked at it19:21
johnxI like matchbox keyboard because it's so light and there's a nice thumbable key layout for it...19:21
johnxyeah, looking at screenshots19:22
johnxit's hideous looking O_o19:23
*** zap has joined #maemo19:23
Khertan2ouch : "ca pique les yeux19:24
*** Khertan2 has left #maemo19:24
qwerty12Something about eyes19:24
*** Cwiiis has quit IRC19:25
johnxStskeeps, well I built matchbox wm with session management, so I'll play with that first and see if it makes me happy19:25
*** andrewfblack has quit IRC19:25
andre__..."it hurts my eyes" for the non-frenchies :)19:25
qwerty12Ta, my french sucks :)19:28
*** mardi__ has joined #maemo19:28
*** hap has joined #maemo19:29
*** pleemans has joined #maemo19:29
*** hrw is now known as hrw|gone19:36
*** elekt has quit IRC19:37
*** Sargun has quit IRC19:38
*** kcome has quit IRC19:40
*** Mousey has joined #maemo19:44
*** solarion has joined #maemo19:45
*** t_s_o has quit IRC19:46
*** henrique has joined #maemo19:54
* lcuk stretches and yawns even thou hes been up for ages19:56
Stskeepsjohnx: did you see my challenges post btw?19:56
johnxerm...I don't think so19:56
johnxon ITT?19:57
*** ustunozgur has joined #maemo19:57
*** trickie has joined #maemo19:57
*** bilboed-pi has quit IRC19:58
Stskeepswaving fresh meat in front of the people who like to hack their deblet ;)19:58
*** ustunozgur_ has quit IRC19:58
*** dneary has quit IRC19:58
lcukStskeeps, you dont do things by halves do you - thats an impressive todo list19:58
Stskeepslcuk: i'm just insane19:59
Stskeepsand any of these are bloody brilliant to have really19:59
lcuknot really - at least you are starting with a known os19:59
johnxlcuk, nah, he's just insane...but I agree with him on not taking half measures :)20:00
* qwerty12 waits for his latest kernel to compile. at least the 35KB patch applied cleanly20:00
lcukStskeeps, whats keeping most of these things from being used directly from native debian?  is it the underlying drivers?20:01
johnxlcuk, *sigh* Nokia does things in strange ways a lot of the time20:01
Stskeepswhat johnx said20:01
johnxso there's a "linux way" and a "Nokia way"20:01
Stskeepsideally they would be HAL values or something20:02
Stskeepsbut it's not often there's a GUI for USB host/gadget for instance20:02
johnxwell, it's not often that's even a user configurable option :)20:03
johnxembedded harware is always fun20:03
Stskeepsjohnx: did you see lxlauncher btw?20:03
johnxStskeeps, yeah, I tried it but the font size is hardcoded20:04
qwerty12It was Tony Lindgren's work with backporting usb host that started it off on N800 wasn't it?20:04
johnxit looks pretty darn nice though20:04
johnxStskeeps, I have a somewhat novel idea for the lxde desktop though...20:04
Stskeepsjohnx: mm?20:04
*** eton has joined #maemo20:05
johnxI'm just throwing this out as a concept, but I'm thinking of moving the "statusbar"/systray applets to a panel that's only visible when the desktop is shown20:06
qwerty12Interesting, it's possible for the the WiMax chip to be run at 48Mhz20:06
johnxI'd also like to be able to run some of the maemo desktop applets20:07
johnxThat's next on my list after playing with matchbox (or gnome) keyboard a little bit20:07
Stskeepsjohnx: could be interesting.. i'm the type who'd like a shortcut to go to desktop then though20:07
Stskeepslike, keyboard shortcut20:07
johnxthe home key seems like a good candidate20:08
*** eichi has quit IRC20:08
qwerty12Stskeeps: btw, was the WEXT patch you used  for the cx3100 the one of the mailing list?20:08
*** jeez_ has joined #maemo20:09
Stskeepsqwerty12: yes, but i applied an extra fix on top to make it signal it supports WPA etc20:09
Stskeepsqwerty12: any stability problems with that one?20:09
qwerty12Thanks, no, I'm just curious :)20:09
johnxStskeeps, gorgeous!20:11
johnxah, lxlauncher must work nice as long as you lie about the dpi...20:11
*** mardi__1 has joined #maemo20:12
* johnx grumbles about people who don't think about high dpi screens when they write code...20:13
Stskeepsnow i'm scared20:13
Stskeepsit says "Senior member" next to me on ITT :/20:13
qwerty12Stskeeps: happens above a certain post count20:13
Stskeepsyeah, just reached post 100 :P20:14
johnxyeah, I don't want to think about how many posts I've made...20:14
*** andrewfblack has joined #maemo20:14
*** florian has quit IRC20:15
qwerty12On ITT, TBH, I don't really notice my post count20:15
andrewfblacklook Qwerty12no Mibbit :)20:15
qwerty12OMG, andrewfblack without mibbit? :P :)20:16
*** Pebby has joined #maemo20:16
andrewfblacklol for a few mins this IRC over VNC will drive me crazy20:16
*** mardi__ has quit IRC20:16
*** Juhaz has quit IRC20:16
johnxStskeeps, are you using gdm with lxde?20:17
*** Juhaz has joined #maemo20:17
*** andrewfblack has quit IRC20:19
*** bilboed has joined #maemo20:19
*** n800m has joined #maemo20:21
*** eocanha has quit IRC20:21
svuwhere could I find osso-software-version-rx44 ?20:21
svuI uninstalled it :(20:21
*** ustunozgur has quit IRC20:23
*** L0cutus has quit IRC20:24
Stskeepsjohnx: yes20:28
Stskeepsjohnx: i made an autologin package20:28
Stskeepswell, b-man or fatalsaint did20:29
sven-tekoups, i removed busybox20:29
johnxStskeeps, a package just to set the "autologin" bit in gdm or something else?20:29
Stskeepsjohnx: something that makes it autologin to user in /etc/tablet_user20:29
Stskeepsin gdm20:29
johnxfair enough20:29
*** Zic has quit IRC20:29
Stskeepsit also starts up the X server sanely and all that jazz20:30
johnxmy setup is starting to diverge already...20:30
Stskeeps <- just a metapackage20:31
johnxwell the one thing about matchbox wm is it really works great with matchbox keyboard :/20:33
* johnx sighs20:33
Stskeepsi wonder what makes the magic happen20:33
johnxit's just about window handling...20:34
RST38hAnybody using Pidgin?20:34
*** ustunozgur has joined #maemo20:34
johnxI *think* the same thing could be done in openbox if matchbox keyboard set its WM_CLASS to *anything*20:34
*** krutt has joined #maemo20:34
johnxbut it leaves it blank so openbox can't match against it...maybe devilspie is the answer...20:35
tekojoRST38h on a NIT20:35
tekojoYes, currently20:36
*** sven-tek has quit IRC20:37
*** sergio_ has joined #maemo20:37
RST38hdo you know if it is worth installing collabora version in stead of nix?20:38
*** atlas95 has joined #maemo20:38
*** sergio_ has quit IRC20:39
tekojoSorry can't help haven't tried both20:39
tekojoI have the nix version20:40
RST38hare you using the nix one then?20:40
RST38hsame here20:40
RST38hApp Manager is offering  to install the collabora version but it is 20MB extra20:40
tekojo20, that's a lot20:41
RST38ha lot of it can probably be deleted later20:42
*** blade_runner has quit IRC20:42
*** mgedmin has joined #maemo20:43
*** atlas95 has quit IRC20:43
*** smancke has joined #maemo20:45
*** tbf has joined #maemo20:47
Stskeepsjohnx: hack matchbox-keyboard? :P20:48
johnxyeah, maybe...20:48
johnxtrying to avoid that20:48
*** blade_runner has joined #maemo20:49
svurtcom-beta-os2008: Depends: telepathy-haze (>= 0.2.0-1collabora1) but 0.1.4-0collabora1 is to be installed20:49
svuwhere would I find the right package?20:49
RST38hcollabora repo20:49
RST38hTrack This20:51
RST38h    Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast."20:51
johnxRST38h, so you're getting into US politics these days?20:51
RST38hjohnx: No, reading dailyrotten.com20:52
RST38hjohnx: Although I do have to admit that they have a lot in common20:52
*** n800m has quit IRC20:52
svuRST38h, which repo? could you give me the url please?20:52
johnxah, the idea of censorship in the age of the quaint20:53
*** andrewfblack has joined #maemo20:53
RST38hsvu: and search for package there20:53
RST38hIt will let you install from the right repo20:53
*** dmes has joined #maemo20:53
RST38hjohnx: censorship isn't interesting enough20:54
*** Khertan_n810 has joined #maemo20:54
RST38hjohnx: but book burning is nice, yes =)20:54
tekojoandrewfblack, back on mibbit :)20:54
Khertan_n810just a question , i lack of a good idea20:54
Khertan_n810mCalendar can sync in background now20:54
Khertan_n810but how can i avoid two sync at the same time20:54
RST38hcreate a lock file20:55
Khertan_n810i ve think of a stupid file in /tmp20:55
RST38hbasically, yes20:55
Khertan_n810but if sync crash ...20:55
RST38hthere is a method to avoid it gracefully20:55
svuRST38h, thanks!20:55
RST38hInto that file, write the timestamp of when you are starting to sync20:55
Khertan_n810user will with message an other sync is in progress20:55
RST38hIf the second sync can't open the lock file for writing20:56
RST38hIt should open it for reading and check the time stamp20:56
Khertan_n810RST38h ! hey great idea !20:56
*** skibur has quit IRC20:56
*** hellwolf has joined #maemo20:56
RST38hIf the time stamp is "stale", find the hung process, kill it, remove the lock file, go back to square #120:56
*** tekojo has quit IRC20:57
Khertan_n810thx for the tip RST38h20:57
*** n800m has joined #maemo20:58
*** Khertan_n810 has quit IRC20:59
svuRST38h, no updated version of telepathy-haze found :(21:01
*** qwerty12 has quit IRC21:02
*** thopiekar has left #maemo21:08
*** qwerty12_N800 has joined #maemo21:10
*** __t has joined #maemo21:11
*** lbt has quit IRC21:11
qwerty12_N800Stskeeps: don't think i will be attempting to install deblet for a while, the 6th install attempt works fine until the watchdog reboots the tablet :( (nothing running on it, i was leaving it unattended) :(21:16
*** ustunozgur has quit IRC21:17
*** qwerty12_N800 has quit IRC21:20
*** jpuderer has quit IRC21:20
*** blade_runner has quit IRC21:22
*** qwerty12_N800 has joined #maemo21:22
*** nn800n has joined #maemo21:22
*** krutt has quit IRC21:24
*** krutt has joined #maemo21:24
*** skibur has joined #maemo21:24
*** Khertan_n810 has joined #maemo21:25
*** ustunozgur has joined #maemo21:27
*** andrewfblack has quit IRC21:28
*** ustunozgur has quit IRC21:31
*** ustunozgur has joined #maemo21:31
ToyKeeperWow, fennec is really slow.21:35
ToyKeeperI was looking for a way to make noscript work on my n810.  I guess I didn't find an answer yet.  :)21:36
*** lele has quit IRC21:38
*** thopiekar has joined #maemo21:39
*** thopiekar has left #maemo21:39
*** krutt has quit IRC21:40
*** n800m has quit IRC21:41
*** krutt has joined #maemo21:43
*** krutt has quit IRC21:45
*** andor has joined #maemo21:45
*** nn800n has quit IRC21:47
*** krutt has joined #maemo21:47
Stskeepsqwerty12_N800: weird21:47
*** luck^ has joined #maemo21:47
*** straind2 has joined #maemo21:48
*** EspeonEefi has joined #maemo21:48
*** straind has quit IRC21:49
*** straind2 is now known as straind21:49
*** EspeonEefi has quit IRC21:52
*** gfcs has joined #maemo21:52
*** konttori_ has joined #maemo21:53
Stskeepsqwerty12_N800: so it reboots during install? O_o21:55
qwerty12_N800Stskeeps: yeah :D, it was configuring gconf and cpu = 100%21:56
*** robink has quit IRC21:57
*** mardi__1 has quit IRC21:57
*** kevinverma has quit IRC21:57
*** pvanhoof has quit IRC21:57
*** Grackle has quit IRC21:57
*** eXeonical has quit IRC21:57
*** lardman|gone has quit IRC21:57
*** timelyx has quit IRC21:57
*** ccooke has quit IRC21:57
*** lnx^_ has quit IRC21:57
*** skibur has quit IRC21:57
*** hellwolf has quit IRC21:57
*** ian_brasil has quit IRC21:57
*** mavhk has quit IRC21:57
*** lcuk has quit IRC21:57
*** texel has quit IRC21:57
*** `0660 has quit IRC21:57
*** huehner has quit IRC21:57
*** mat has quit IRC21:57
*** bstock has quit IRC21:57
*** rmrfchik has quit IRC21:57
*** akiniemi has quit IRC21:57
*** shd has quit IRC21:57
*** jj- has quit IRC21:57
*** X-Fade has quit IRC21:57
*** flatface has quit IRC21:57
*** nab_ has quit IRC21:57
*** melmoth has quit IRC21:57
*** maddler has quit IRC21:57
*** zumbi has quit IRC21:57
*** ChanServ has quit IRC21:57
*** andor has quit IRC21:57
*** notmart has quit IRC21:57
*** booiiing has quit IRC21:57
*** setanta has quit IRC21:57
*** _berto_ has quit IRC21:57
*** hfwilke has quit IRC21:57
*** pierlux has quit IRC21:57
*** barisione has quit IRC21:57
*** rm_you has quit IRC21:57
*** herz1 has quit IRC21:57
*** secureendpoints has quit IRC21:57
*** ljp has quit IRC21:57
*** joshin has quit IRC21:57
*** wom has quit IRC21:57
*** trev0r has quit IRC21:57
*** GAN800 has quit IRC21:57
*** tank-man has quit IRC21:57
*** disq has quit IRC21:57
*** DanielW has quit IRC21:57
*** jokor has quit IRC21:57
*** cmvo has quit IRC21:57
*** LoCusF has quit IRC21:57
*** lool has quit IRC21:57
*** jhe has quit IRC21:57
*** GazzaK has quit IRC21:57
johnxmaybe an out-of-memory thing?21:57
Stskeepsqwerty12_N800: swap enabled or not?21:57
*** k`sOSe has quit IRC21:58
*** ChanServ has joined #maemo21:58
*** andor has joined #maemo21:58
*** skibur has joined #maemo21:58
*** hellwolf has joined #maemo21:58
*** mardi__1 has joined #maemo21:58
*** notmart has joined #maemo21:58
*** booiiing has joined #maemo21:58
*** ian_brasil has joined #maemo21:58
*** setanta has joined #maemo21:58
*** hfwilke has joined #maemo21:58
*** mavhk has joined #maemo21:58
*** kevinverma has joined #maemo21:58
*** lcuk has joined #maemo21:58
*** pierlux has joined #maemo21:58
*** barisione has joined #maemo21:58
*** pvanhoof has joined #maemo21:58
*** rm_you has joined #maemo21:58
*** herz1 has joined #maemo21:58
*** secureendpoints has joined #maemo21:58
*** Grackle has joined #maemo21:58
*** texel has joined #maemo21:58
*** eXeonical has joined #maemo21:58
*** ljp has joined #maemo21:58
*** joshin has joined #maemo21:58
*** wom has joined #maemo21:58
*** robink has joined #maemo21:58
*** lardman|gone has joined #maemo21:58
*** trev0r has joined #maemo21:58
*** `0660 has joined #maemo21:58
*** huehner has joined #maemo21:58
*** GAN800 has joined #maemo21:58
*** timelyx has joined #maemo21:58
*** mat has joined #maemo21:58
*** tank-man has joined #maemo21:58
*** bstock has joined #maemo21:58
*** rmrfchik has joined #maemo21:58
*** disq has joined #maemo21:58
*** ccooke has joined #maemo21:58
*** lnx^_ has joined #maemo21:58
*** DanielW has joined #maemo21:58
*** X-Fade has joined #maemo21:58
*** flatface has joined #maemo21:58
*** akiniemi has joined #maemo21:58
*** shd has joined #maemo21:58
*** maddler has joined #maemo21:58
*** nab_ has joined #maemo21:58
*** zumbi has joined #maemo21:58
*** jj- has joined #maemo21:58
*** melmoth has joined #maemo21:58
*** LoCusF has joined #maemo21:58
*** cmvo has joined #maemo21:58
*** sets mode: +o ChanServ21:58
*** jokor has joined #maemo21:58
*** jhe has joined #maemo21:58
*** lool has joined #maemo21:58
qwerty12_N800Stskeeps: swap enabled21:58
*** k`sOSe has joined #maemo21:58
*** Knirch has quit IRC21:58
*** PauloZanoni has quit IRC21:59
mikkov_is there a way to disable/enable home applets from command line?21:59
*** jaska has quit IRC21:59
*** jaska has joined #maemo21:59
*** hrw|gone has quit IRC21:59
*** wiza has quit IRC21:59
*** Mxxd has quit IRC21:59
*** wiza has joined #maemo21:59
*** kaatis_ has quit IRC21:59
*** hrw|gone has joined #maemo21:59
*** script has quit IRC21:59
*** romaxa_ has quit IRC21:59
*** Mxxd has joined #maemo21:59
*** script has joined #maemo21:59
*** kaatis has joined #maemo21:59
luck^X-Fade ping21:59
qwerty12_N800mikkov_: hacking the hildon-desktop .conf files21:59
*** chouse_ has quit IRC22:00
mikkov_anything more specific? I am trying to get applet to reload when upgrading22:00
mikkov_python home applet if that matters22:01
*** n800m has joined #maemo22:01
*** GeneralAntilles has quit IRC22:04
mikkov_deleting .desktop and creating it again seems to work22:04
*** ustunozgur_ has joined #maemo22:04
*** ustunozgur has quit IRC22:04
mikkov_or renaming to something else and back22:05
*** IRSeekBot has quit IRC22:06
*** romaxa has joined #maemo22:07
*** Pavlx has joined #maemo22:08
*** chouse has joined #maemo22:08
Pavlxmy nokia 770 has got a problem22:08
Pavlxthe mory card remain out22:09
Pavlxso i must to press until memory enter22:09
Pavlxin the slot22:09
Pavlxat the same time says: that there is not any memory card inside22:10
Pavlxwhat i can do ?22:10
*** philipl has quit IRC22:11
*** Stecchino has quit IRC22:11
*** nelson has quit IRC22:11
*** Stecchino has joined #maemo22:11
*** crashanddie has quit IRC22:11
*** konttori_ has quit IRC22:12
melmothPavlx: sounds like a broken slot, or some dirt in it22:12
Pavlxdoes not close22:12
*** konttori_ has joined #maemo22:12
Pavlxis not dirty22:13
*** MishaS has joined #maemo22:13
MishaS!seen X-Fade22:13
MishaS~seen X-Fade22:14
*** gfcs has quit IRC22:14
infobotx-fade is currently on #maemo (14m 22s), last said: 'murrayc: Probably later this day.'.22:14
*** bilboed has quit IRC22:14
*** philipl has joined #maemo22:15
*** GeneralAntilles has joined #maemo22:15
*** Raytray has joined #maemo22:15
*** crashanddie has joined #maemo22:16
GeneralAntillesYou guys seriously didn't just spawn a huge troll thread on -developers?22:16
* MishaS wonders what thread is that...22:16
*** nelson has joined #maemo22:17
qwerty12_N800GeneralAntilles: darius is a fucktard22:17
XTLThe multitouch thread?22:17
GeneralAntillesqwerty12_N800, no shit.22:18
GeneralAntillesYes, Darius's thread.22:18
* jott wonders how much karma darius would have :)22:18
*** gfcs has joined #maemo22:18
jottprobably way above 100 ;)22:18
XTLDarius for president!22:18
*** gfcs has quit IRC22:19
*** kimitake has joined #maemo22:20
Pavlxso i must to stay one month wyhout pda22:20
*** florian has joined #maemo22:20
qwerty12_N800I like the way he says others are trolling22:21
Pavlxand i don't know how i must to pay why is out of warranty22:21
*** briatx_ has quit IRC22:22
*** briatx has joined #maemo22:22
Pavlxi would ask you a think22:22
*** lele has joined #maemo22:22
Pavlxthe 810 has got wimax, but work s too as wifi or not ?22:23
*** Knirch has joined #maemo22:23
*** PauloZanoni has joined #maemo22:23
Pavlxbecause here wimax there is not again in italy and if there is, is to payment22:24
jottPavlx: only the n810 wimax edition has wimax, the normal does not have wimax support.22:24
melmoththe n810 does not do wimax22:24
jottbut both support wifi22:24
Pavlxwith 800 there is the wifi22:24
melmothnon c e molto wimax anche in francia ;-)22:24
*** IRSeekBot has joined #maemo22:24
Pavlxif 810 has got too support for wi-fi is a good thing22:25
jottPavlx: ^^..22:25
jottall current its support wifi, and this will  most likely not change in the next generations :)22:25
jottbe it 770, n800, n810, n810wimax - all have wifi22:25
GeneralAntillesThe N810W is probably gonna be tied pretty well to Sprint's network.22:26
GeneralAntillesEspecially since I doubt the networks in Italy are 2.5GHz22:26
Pavlxi must again to buy the 80022:26
jottyes, and the n810w will probably be useless for anybody outside of the sprint wimax coverage anyway.22:26
Pavlxaqnd the 81022:26
jottPavlx: the n810 (without W or Wimax) does not have wimax.22:26
Pavlxbut are not very cheap22:27
jottthey are more expensive than n800, right.22:27
Pavlxthey costs a lot22:27
__tis Jamie Bennett here?22:30
*** jnettlet has quit IRC22:31
*** ustunozgur has joined #maemo22:32
*** ustunozgur_ has quit IRC22:32
*** IRSeekBot has quit IRC22:33
*** MishaS has quit IRC22:34
jott~seen JamieBennett22:34
infobotjamiebennett <> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 2d 5h 36m 15s ago, saying: 'GAN8001: I'm a little disappointed that more didn't put themselves forward :('.22:34
Pavlxhow is expensive the nokia 800 ?22:35
jottit's more expensive in europe than in the states..22:36
*** nelson has quit IRC22:36
*** lele has quit IRC22:38
*** nelson has joined #maemo22:39
*** efleury has quit IRC22:43
*** ustunozgur has quit IRC22:43
*** ustunozgur has joined #maemo22:44
*** oilinki3 is now known as oilinki22:44
*** blade_runner has joined #maemo22:45
*** ustunozgur has quit IRC22:46
*** ustunozgur has joined #maemo22:46
*** _ken_ has joined #maemo22:47
*** setanta has quit IRC22:48
*** Sargun has joined #maemo22:48
*** PauloZanoni has quit IRC22:49
*** kimitake has left #maemo22:50
*** smancke has quit IRC22:53
* GeneralAntilles is a sick puppy.22:55
GeneralAntillesI'd have vnc going from the Beagle to provide a "display" if OS X's USBNet driver weren't so old and crappy.22:55
qwerty12_N800can't be worse than ubuntu's :(. i swear they broke it in their subsequent kernel releases :(22:58
*** madhav has left #maemo22:58
qwerty12_N800it's  why i'm forced to use g_serial :/22:59
GeneralAntillesI guess I need to go buy a USB network adaptor of some kind23:00
GeneralAntillesNot sure which to get, though.23:00
*** ustunozgur_ has joined #maemo23:00
*** ustunozgur has quit IRC23:00
*** jnettlet has joined #maemo23:02
* RST38h would like to kill something23:02
mgedmintry a small piece of paper23:03
RST38hmgedmin: something squishy!23:03
mgedminhow about a cone of ice cream?23:03
GeneralAntillesKill an artichoke, rip its heart out and eat it!23:03
*** n800m has quit IRC23:04
RST38hpreferably the guy who equipped this dev board with ethernet, wifi, 5 USB connectors, and an SD card slot but DID NOT install SSHD on it23:04
RST38hYea, "I am a vegetarian not because I like animals but because I *hate* the plants"23:04
*** Anunakin has joined #maemo23:05
*** dneary has joined #maemo23:05
RST38hI hope they do not force me to boot off NFS23:05
*** ustunozgur has joined #maemo23:06
AnunakinCan anyone confirms if qt4 libs on devel-extras are corrupted?23:06
GeneralAntillesHi, dneary.23:06
*** CptLaptop has quit IRC23:07
*** ustunozgur_ has quit IRC23:07
jottAnunakin: .. gnuton wanted to push an updated version by now. :(23:09
dnearyhey ho23:09
jotthello dneary.23:09
jottAnunakin: the one who uploaded the maemo0 packages :)23:10
*** setanta has joined #maemo23:10
GeneralAntillesSo, dneary, what do you think about starting to delete some of the pages in the old wiki that collide with new stuff on mediawiki?23:11
jottAnunakin: packages are actually fine, just the package db is out of sync (or the other way around, how ever you view it)23:11
dnearyGeneralAntilles: Collide how?23:11
GeneralAntillesWell, take the flashing articles23:11
GeneralAntillesThey usually come up first in google searches23:11
Pavlxi found the nokia n800 it is possible that i buy it23:11
GeneralAntillesor the booting from MMC articles.23:11
Pavlxthey ask few something 200 euro23:12
GeneralAntillesSo people looking for that information tend to run into the old, outdated, inaccurate pages first.23:12
Pavlxnew never used23:12
dnearyI've been considering the old wiki 100% legacy now, and have been more or less ignoring it, beyond having the warning "this page is now useless and unmaintained - please see the new wiki (and move this page there & update it if you think it's still relevant)23:12
*** notmart has left #maemo23:12
dnearySo we need to make the new wiki Google trawlable - is it right now?23:12
GeneralAntillesProblem is, google and other sources aren't also ignoring it.23:12
VDVsxPavlx, the n810 is about 359 € now, brand new23:12
RST38hchange the page background to olive green23:12
Pavlxor if any of you want to sell me a nokia n800 i am very happy23:13
RST38hThat will make people stay away from the old pages =)23:13
Pavlxi speaked ok n80023:13
Pavlxnot n81023:13
VDVsxPavlx, ah ok, you want the n80023:13
Pavlxyes, for 360 euro, is out of me23:14
*** ustunozgur has quit IRC23:14
Pavlxvery expensive now23:14
*** PauloZanoni has joined #maemo23:14
*** ustunozgur has joined #maemo23:14
*** ustunozgur has quit IRC23:14
Pavlxwhy we don't wait to buy, until to buy to these prices very high ?23:14
GeneralAntillesThe new wiki is on the google results pages23:15
GeneralAntillesjust not ranked as high.23:15
VDVsxPavlx, try to buy a used one, I see a n800 for 150 € in a ebay like store two moths of use23:15
*** lardman has joined #maemo23:15
GeneralAntillesBut, really, the clearly redundant and problem solving stuff just needs to be deleted23:16
GeneralAntilleslike the flashing articles23:16
GeneralAntilleslardman, that doesn't stop google.23:16
*** evaryont has quit IRC23:16
Pavlxyes, but if we don't buy the prices go down23:16
lardmanGeneralAntilles: true23:17
GeneralAntillesThe good result is 5 items down.23:17
GeneralAntillesThe crap results are right on top.23:17
Anunakinjott: ok!23:17
VDVsxPavlx, lol23:17
lardmanchange those pages to point to the correct one with a big warning at the top, etc,?23:17
GeneralAntillesJust delete them23:18
GeneralAntillesthere's nothing useful in them.23:18
GeneralAntillesJust less-clear and outdated flashing instructions.23:18
lardmanyeah, fair enough, just a thought23:18
*** ssvb has joined #maemo23:19
Pavlxwhy nokia continue to use opera ?23:19
*** krutt has quit IRC23:19
qwerty12_N800they dont23:19
Pavlxis dimostrated that minimo and others are better23:19
Pavlxon n800 and n81023:20
mikkov_maemo is using mozilla based browser23:20
mikkov_opera is old stuff23:20
Pavlxbut they install23:20
mikkov_you can not use opera with latest OS version23:21
*** vcgomes is now known as vcgomes[away]23:21
Pavlxand then shared directories23:21
Pavlxthat are hidden23:21
*** henrique has quit IRC23:21
Pavlxprograms as flash23:22
Pavlxothers to support mp3, wav, avi, wmv23:22
*** vcgomes[away] is now known as vcgomes23:22
Pavlxis easy to do a cross compile of ffmpeg2theora from the source code23:22
Pavlxand than exec on nokia23:23
Pavlxand to convert a movie is necessary to write ./ffmpeg2theora-version of theora and the name of movie with extension23:24
Pavlxto press enter and after times, you got a movie in *ogv (ogg video)23:25
VDVsxmy login in maemo wiki is always expiring, if a login and then click on something the login expires in the moment, anyone experiencing that to ?23:25
Pavlxdonìt ask me i never listened something of this type23:26
Pavlxis the first time i listen a similar problem23:26
Pavlxso VDsx, i can't help you23:27
dnearyGeneralAntilles: You're probably right.23:27
dnearyI've avoided working on anything midgard since the new wiki's there though23:27
dnearyperformance has just been so awful23:28
dnearyIt's been painful23:28
GeneralAntillesYeah, it can probably wait until after the server upgrades23:29
GeneralAntillesDo you happen to have a Special:Allpages equivalent for the Midgard wiki handy, though?23:29
*** adjam has joined #maemo23:30
Pavlxexcuse me guys23:30
*** Ryback_ has joined #maemo23:30
Pavlxi say to you bye bye, i go to see a little of telly and i continue tomorrow23:30
Pavlxat the same time i would inform that in these dsys the GNU Project has done 25th years23:31
Pavlxi invite for a moment to see http://gnu.org23:31
Pavlxbye bye23:32
*** dougt has quit IRC23:33
*** PauloZanoni has quit IRC23:33
*** hvelarde|stealth has joined #maemo23:33
*** dougt has joined #maemo23:34
jottGeneralAntilles: google inurl: ? :)23:39
*** konttori_ has quit IRC23:42
*** efleury has joined #maemo23:46
*** adjam has left #maemo23:48
*** PauloZanoni has joined #maemo23:50
*** ian_brasil has quit IRC23:52
*** simon_ has quit IRC23:54
*** AD-N770 has joined #maemo23:54
*** ChanServ has quit IRC23:54
*** Khertan_n810 has quit IRC23:55
*** ChanServ has joined #maemo23:55
*** sets mode: +o ChanServ23:55
*** pleemans has quit IRC23:56
StskeepsItalodance: not sure how's that relevant to tablets or maemo .. :P23:57
*** kpel has joined #maemo23:58
*** caio1982 has quit IRC23:58
jottit's not a deblet but a warezlet :)23:59
GeneralAntillesjott, does that give me a list of all pages on the midgard wiki?23:59
jottGeneralAntilles: i think it should give you all those indexed by google.23:59

Generated by 2.15.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at!