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| jott | hm anyone actually tried directfb in initfs? | 00:04 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: yeah, nit-env-stskeeps has become unstable, i really have no clue why | 00:09 |
| Stskeeps | and it's xfce4-panel | 00:09 |
| lbt | ta - I just pulled the battery though :) | 00:09 |
| lbt | I'll try again in a bit... | 00:09 |
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| lbt | oh, actually, it hung hard first... | 00:10 |
| Stskeeps | hm | 00:10 |
| lbt | I've not played with it much for a week | 00:10 |
| lbt | I'll fsck it | 00:10 |
| lbt | and try again | 00:10 |
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| lardman|eating | fortune cookies, there's a thing, why has no-one developed an app to display a cookie every time the screen is unlocked? | 00:18 |
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| lbt | you can tell you're eating | 00:19 |
| lardman|eating | nah, just saw mention of fortune above :) | 00:19 |
| moontiger | lbt, hey :) | 00:19 |
| lardman|eating | I am quite hungry though now you mention it | 00:19 |
| lbt | hi moontiger | 00:20 |
| lbt | did I reply to your mail? | 00:20 |
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| * Stskeeps posts the Deblet Hack Challenges v1.0, http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=220611#post220611 | 00:32 | |
| GeneralAntilles | Woo, finally, a serial console. | 00:36 |
| Stskeeps | beagle? | 00:36 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yeah | 00:37 |
| GeneralAntilles | Got a real null modem cable | 00:37 |
| * GeneralAntilles iz tard | 00:37 | |
| * jott hands GeneralAntilles a parity bit | 00:37 | |
| GeneralAntilles | 'course, I left my DVI-HDMI cable back home. | 00:37 |
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| Proteous | I always carry mine in my pocket | 00:38 |
| Proteous | ... | 00:38 |
| Proteous | has the added bonus of jabbing me in the leg as I walk | 00:38 |
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| Pebby | Proteous: but a hobo can do that, and steal your wallet too! | 00:44 |
| Proteous | a hobo can jab me in the leg? | 00:45 |
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| Proteous | HOOK ME UP! | 00:45 |
| Pebby | And many other places if you look wealthy! | 00:45 |
| Proteous | lol | 00:46 |
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| GeneralAntilles | jott, I like the blog idea. | 00:55 |
| GeneralAntilles | I think a "maemo.org Community Council" blog would be best. | 00:55 |
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| lbt | is anything special needed to compile for initfs environment? | 00:57 |
| lbt | eg static? | 00:57 |
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| * Stskeeps ponders if gammu just tried to hack his neighbours cellphone | 01:01 | |
| Proteous | yes, you need to add $50 to my paypal acount | 01:01 |
| lbt | OK, I compiled a 1-liner printf and copy it to /tmp in an initfs (using dropbear) | 01:08 |
| lbt | it says -sh: /tmp/try: not found | 01:08 |
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| lbt | If I scp a binary from initfs to my machine and back to /tmp it works fine | 01:08 |
| lbt | so WTF is 'not found' | 01:08 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: the libc it points to doesntt exist | 01:09 |
| Stskeeps | (prolly) | 01:09 |
| lbt | I tried -B static -lx | 01:10 |
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| lbt | sorry : -B static -lc | 01:10 |
| lbt | ldd does show /lib/libc.so.6 | 01:10 |
| lbt | hmm - initfs uses uclibc doesn't it | 01:11 |
| jott | GeneralAntilles: indeed, would also give it an official touch and extra recognition. | 01:12 |
| GeneralAntilles | Bit simpler than "blessing" all of the current council member's individual blogs | 01:12 |
| jott | hehe blessed blogs :) | 01:13 |
| lardman|eating | lbt: iirc you need to link agains ulibc | 01:13 |
| lbt | yep - figured that - but how? | 01:13 |
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| jott | lbt: tslib needs some patching... | 01:13 |
| GeneralAntilles | and means I don't have to get myself a blog if I get elected. ;) | 01:13 |
| jott | lbt: there is a scratchbox uclibc target | 01:13 |
| lardman|eaten | lbt: download and compile, make a new build system, etc. | 01:13 |
| lardman|eaten | lbt: painful | 01:13 |
| lbt | eek | 01:14 |
| jott | (not compatible with the maemo one, but still can be used to compile statically against uclibc) | 01:14 |
| lbt | I prefer jott's idea | 01:14 |
| lbt | <sigh> | 01:14 |
| lardman|eaten | yeah that's fair enough, I didn't know that existed :) | 01:14 |
| lardman|eaten | anyway, bed time, see you all tomorrow | 01:14 |
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| GeneralAntilles | lardman|eaten, stomach acid must hurt. | 01:14 |
| GeneralAntilles | BASTARD SON OF A WHORE! | 01:14 |
| Stskeeps | did any of you people try Wammu with maemo? | 01:15 |
| Stskeeps | it seems to be a decent software | 01:15 |
| jott | lardman the quickest irc quitter in existance :) | 01:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | For serious. | 01:15 |
| Alystair | WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT | 01:16 |
| Alystair | grabbed me a 770 for $73 :) | 01:16 |
| jott | lbt: still tslib needs patching as it relies on dlopen and a plugin system :( | 01:16 |
| lbt | jott: any suggestions on where to start? | 01:16 |
| jott | lbt: for what? toolchain or getting tslib running? ;) | 01:16 |
| lbt | I got tslib down | 01:16 |
| lbt | heh - both eventually | 01:17 |
| lbt | I guess uclib first | 01:17 |
| Stskeeps | .. why on -earth- does imagemagick require xulrunner | 01:17 |
| GeneralAntilles | Ha | 01:17 |
| jott | well toolchain should be "apt-get install scratchbox-toolchain-arm-gcc3.4-uclibc0.9.28" if you run a debian like system.. | 01:17 |
| GeneralAntilles | I guess they wanted to make it as bloated as possible. | 01:17 |
| Stskeeps | and i thought my installer was bad.. | 01:17 |
| jott | and then sb-menu in sbox to add, yadda, yadda, | 01:18 |
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| lbt | ok | 01:18 |
| jott | huh? imagemagick requires xulrunner?! | 01:18 |
| Stskeeps | okay, even worse | 01:18 |
| Stskeeps | apt-get install imagemagick under debian drags in iceweasel | 01:18 |
| jott | convert foo.html bla.png? ;) | 01:18 |
| Stskeeps | .. | 01:18 |
| Stskeeps | in some ways, gentoo people got the right idea | 01:19 |
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| mikkov_ | at least on my etch imagemagick is installed without iceweasel | 01:20 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: is it pulling in recommended | 01:21 |
| jott | mikkov_: but only when have install big-chunky-desktop-meta-package :) | 01:21 |
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| mikkov_ | since when apt-get is pulling recommended packages too? | 01:22 |
| mikkov_ | according to this http://packages.debian.org/lenny/imagemagick imagemagick doesn't have any funny depencies | 01:24 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: huh? why the hell is it doing that? | 01:25 |
| lbt | it's not - my mistake | 01:26 |
| Stskeeps | well it would explain something i saw the other day as well | 01:26 |
| lbt | I was digging in the dependencies in aptitude and just connected my fingers to my wonderings | 01:26 |
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| Stskeeps | where apt-get install bootchart installed the bootchart-view too | 01:26 |
| Stskeeps | (which was recommended) | 01:26 |
| mikkov_ | didn't install on etch | 01:28 |
| mikkov_ | there's some setting for recommended packages? | 01:29 |
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| lbt | super clean stable install : http://pastebin.com/d5908b72f | 01:31 |
| jott | mikkov_: yes APT::Install-Recommends | 01:31 |
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| Stskeeps | im on lenny | 01:34 |
| mikkov_ | yeah X related stuff is probably too much considering that imagemagick is command line tool (or is it?) | 01:36 |
| lbt | it has lots of viewers | 01:37 |
| mikkov_ | they should be put to separate package | 01:38 |
| lbt | ok - toolchain is downloading - bedtime... | 01:45 |
| lbt | 'night all | 01:45 |
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| jott | mikkov_: "display" uses X11 :) | 02:04 |
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| evaryont | Anyone here able to install Granule (the flash card program) on n800/OS2008? | 03:03 |
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| evaryont | I can't - every time I've tried the App Manager can't find gstreamer-tools | 03:03 |
| evaryont | and I don't know where to get gst-tools :( | 03:03 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Well, I've got an Angstrom serial console. | 03:19 |
| GeneralAntilles | Gotta wait for that damn cable. . . . | 03:19 |
| RST38h | congratulations :) | 03:22 |
| GeneralAntilles | I've now reached the level of semi-tard. | 03:23 |
| * RST38h uses opportunity to curse ICNexus for not installing SSHD on their dev board | 03:25 | |
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| evaryont | I've recently formatted my 4gb SD card, and the nokia n800 can mount/read/write it, but my linux computer can't even detect that it is a device. udev creates a dev device (/dev/sdc) but when I attempt to mount it (mount /dev/sdc /media/sdcard) mount says sdc isn't a valid block device. There are no other /dev/sdc* files, (i.e. sdc1, sdc2..), only sdc | 05:23 |
| evaryont | My sd card reader is usb connected, and I have a second USB based sdcard reader, I've tried both, and both fail with the same error | 05:23 |
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| evaryont | My card is a SDHC, though I think that the reader supports them (though I'm not sure) | 05:30 |
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| Alystair | oh man I'm an idiot and bought my 770 without a mem card :( | 05:32 |
| Alystair | it still works without one right? | 05:32 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Of course. | 05:35 |
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| evaryont | ah | 05:36 |
| evaryont | my bad...it's the reader. Only SD, not SDHC :/ | 05:36 |
| Alystair | GeneralAntilles: so it's only used for external storage, if I want to keep stuff like MP3s or text files, etc right? | 05:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | Well, you _can_ boot from it. | 05:39 |
| GeneralAntilles | But most people just use it for storage | 05:39 |
| GeneralAntilles | since you've only got about ~64MB available internally. | 05:39 |
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| Alystair | internal is faster than external though, right? usually the case. | 05:46 |
| GeneralAntilles | Erm, well, not really. | 05:47 |
| GeneralAntilles | Depends a lot on the card | 05:47 |
| GeneralAntilles | and whether you have a 48MHz-enabled kernel | 05:47 |
| GeneralAntilles | Cards go from somewhat faster to significantly slower than internal | 05:48 |
| Alystair | I'm pretty into soft mods so I'm going to be tweeking this thing to no end | 05:49 |
| Alystair | a bit of hardmod expirience as well but nothing as hardcore as chip replacements :) | 05:49 |
| GeneralAntilles | There aren't any chips you can really replace on the 770. ;) | 05:50 |
| Dekaritae | Bristol Palin is ChristinaModel | 05:50 |
| Alystair | haha oh man Red Alert 3 looks horrific | 05:53 |
| Alystair | not even Peter Stormare can save it. | 05:54 |
| RST38h | Replace OMAP1 with OMAP2! | 06:00 |
| GeneralAntilles | If you can do that by hand, you automatically win at everything ever for the rest of your life. | 06:00 |
| moontiger | GeneralAntilles, is that 48MHz mod worth the trouble? | 06:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's just a kernel flash | 06:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | Less effective on the N8x0 than the 770 | 06:01 |
| moontiger | ok | 06:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | and it's not endorsed by TI, so there may be stability troubles. | 06:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | But there will be improvement. | 06:01 |
| moontiger | ach i'll pass unless its going to change my world :) | 06:01 |
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| GAN800 | Would it be possible to use the N800 as a usbnet host? | 07:02 |
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| Alystair | oh man I'm going to be so happy | 07:07 |
| Alystair | to be able to walk around the house and stream 80gb of music and radio | 07:07 |
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| rob2087 | can anyone recommend a good irc client? | 07:09 |
| GAN800 | XChat | 07:10 |
| GAN800 | it's in extras-devel | 07:10 |
| GAN800 | ~extras | 07:10 |
| infobot | hmm... extras is http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras | 07:10 |
| rob2087 | thank you | 07:10 |
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| tank-man | is there a package/script to remove 'docpurge' and install the info/man pages for what is installed? | 07:17 |
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| Alystair | why does the front page of the maemo.org wiki show up blank? | 07:24 |
| Alystair | > http://wiki.maemo.org/Main_Page < | 07:24 |
| GeneralAntilles | Reload | 07:25 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's a server issue | 07:25 |
| GeneralAntilles | Apache threads are segfaulting every once and a while | 07:25 |
| GeneralAntilles | Waiting on server upgrades for a fix. | 07:26 |
| Alystair | ew, alright | 07:26 |
| GeneralAntilles | Should be within the next month | 07:26 |
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| GeneralAntilles | dirtyrice88, gtfo | 07:32 |
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| dirtyrice88 | whoa whoa whoa | 07:47 |
| dirtyrice88 | chillax man | 07:47 |
| moontiger | GeneralAntilles, when do you get the results of the vote thingy? | 07:49 |
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| GeneralAntilles | 6 days | 07:49 |
| moontiger | cool ... you were in it yes? | 07:50 |
| GeneralAntilles | Ryan Abel | 07:51 |
| moontiger | what does the winner get? | 07:51 |
| GeneralAntilles | https://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Community_Council/Candidate_declarations | 07:52 |
| GeneralAntilles | Well, there are 5 "Winners" | 07:52 |
| GeneralAntilles | They get positions on the maemo.org Community Council | 07:52 |
| GeneralAntilles | Call it a maemo.org schoolboard election or something. ;) | 07:52 |
| moontiger | and does that mean you get to influence things? | 07:53 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's not really an authority position. | 07:53 |
| moontiger | advisory? | 07:53 |
| GeneralAntilles | More of a community leadership and facilitation position. | 07:53 |
| moontiger | ok | 07:53 |
| GeneralAntilles | Help organize community events | 07:53 |
| moontiger | well i voted for you cos i think you do a good job here ;) | 07:54 |
| GeneralAntilles | help facilitate communication between Nokia and the community | 07:54 |
| GeneralAntilles | Bringing community issues to Nokia's attention, in particular | 07:54 |
| GeneralAntilles | Thanks! :) | 07:54 |
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| tekojo | Hi everyone! | 08:04 |
| GeneralAntilles | Hello | 08:04 |
| tekojo | I thought it would be proper to introduce myself over here | 08:05 |
| GeneralAntilles | Hehe, most everybody's asleep at the moment. ;) | 08:05 |
| tekojo | I am the new Nokia project manager for maemo.org | 08:05 |
| GeneralAntilles | Ah, right, I saw your email on -community. | 08:05 |
| tekojo | I know, but I'll start small :) | 08:05 |
| GeneralAntilles | Welcome! :) | 08:05 |
| tekojo | Thanks | 08:05 |
| melmoth | Hola. You work early in the morning :) | 08:06 |
| tekojo | By the way GeneralAntilles do you ever sleep?:) | 08:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | Frequently, yes. :D | 08:06 |
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| * GeneralAntilles is poking at USBNet on a Beagle Board at the moment. . . . | 08:06 | |
| tekojo | melmoth, yep I tend to come in early | 08:07 |
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| * Stskeeps pokes the coffee machine | 08:10 | |
| GeneralAntilles | The Beagle seems about as eager as possible to use USBNet | 08:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | My OS X box, not so much | 08:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | Stskeeps, can I share the wifi connection over USBNet under Deblet? :D | 08:11 |
| * GeneralAntilles is bound and determined to turn his N800 into a glorified USB wifi adaptor. | 08:12 | |
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| Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: that's a good question, i don't know if cx3110x does bridging, or if there's NAT modules available ;) | 08:13 |
| GeneralAntilles | Maybe I'll strap the Beagle to the back and turn the N800 into a VNC frontend. . . . | 08:13 |
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| Stskeeps | tekojo: so does the maemo.org website actually run on a 770? ;> | 08:14 |
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| GeneralAntilles | I'm so glad to see some real progress on that in the last sprint review. | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | we're getting N800s? | 08:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | Nah, just more parallelization. ;) | 08:16 |
| tekojo | Stskeeps: hard to say, I only have a 810 | 08:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | Ehehe | 08:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | tekojo, he was poking fun at the fact that maemo.org is so godawful slow. ;) | 08:16 |
| tekojo | I know, and it is slow | 08:17 |
| GeneralAntilles | The running joke is that the website is actually hosted on a 770. | 08:17 |
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| tekojo | Yes, but I can't tell, I think it is a secret | 08:18 |
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| GeneralAntilles | I think I may just end up turning this Beagle into a compiler for my tablets for the time being. . . . | 08:19 |
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| Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: saw my Deblet Hack Challenges post btw? could be an interesting way to entice developers for Maemo (if one is made for that) to develop things that are normally considered needed for the platform - where the thread is used for combing user knowledge such as hints how you could get started etc | 08:31 |
| moontiger | hello tekojo :) | 08:31 |
| tekojo | hello moontiger | 08:31 |
| moontiger | so you work for nokia? | 08:31 |
| tekojo | Yes | 08:32 |
| moontiger | tell them thanks for the new sb2 toolchain ... its wayyyyyyyyyyy better than before :) | 08:32 |
| tekojo | Haven't tried it myself yet, but I'll tell them | 08:33 |
| moontiger | especially the anjuta plug-in | 08:33 |
| tekojo | will do | 08:33 |
| moontiger | what exactly is your role in the scheme of things? | 08:33 |
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| tekojo | To see that maemo.org is in good shape from the technical point of view | 08:35 |
| Addison | Greetings and salutations gentlemen! | 08:35 |
| tekojo | services, hardware and all that | 08:35 |
| rm_you | did the server upgrades already happen? | 08:36 |
| tekojo | Not yet, working on it. | 08:36 |
| tekojo | It's in the last sprint before Berlin | 08:37 |
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| Stskeeps | morning qwerty12 | 08:38 |
| Addison | Qwerty! What's up G Money Dog Nuts?!?!?!!!!! | 08:39 |
| qwerty12 | morning Stskeeps | 08:39 |
| qwerty12 | hi Addison | 08:39 |
| Addison | Anything monumentally exciting going on with you today, qwerty? | 08:39 |
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| Addison | If so, don't leave out any of the filthy details! :) | 08:40 |
| moontiger | ok | 08:40 |
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| qwerty12 | Heh, this is why I love my N800: http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/screenies/kismet.png | 08:43 |
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| GeneralAntilles | No | 08:44 |
| GeneralAntilles | They were discussed in the sprint review | 08:44 |
| GeneralAntilles | We're close | 08:44 |
| GeneralAntilles | Testing should be going on as we speak. | 08:44 |
| Addison | What the crap did you run to get that screenshot there qwert? | 08:45 |
| Addison | Oh, and what does that screenshot possibly even mean? | 08:45 |
| qwerty12 | Oh, it's kismet actually running for more than an hour. | 08:46 |
| Addison | I thought kismet was something about hooking up with a girl. Now you've lost me. :( | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: any of the challenges you want to work on? :> | 08:48 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps: I could do the mpd one easily, I've already done it for maemo | 08:49 |
| Addison | You could ask qwerty to build you a flux capacitor and he would say that it was already done. :) | 08:50 |
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| qwerty12 | Na, /me head is hurting | 08:51 |
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| Addison | Well qwerty, you're probably the smartest one here. I don't even know how to change the blinker fluid for my car. | 08:52 |
| qwerty12 | Meh, I'm definitely not the smartest. :) | 08:53 |
| Addison | Oh that's right. You told me about your grades at school. Let me take that compliment back! *lol* | 08:53 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps: Just a note, you would have to use the esd from maemo if you want a esd daemo | 08:54 |
| qwerty12 | n | 08:55 |
| qwerty12 | (unfortunately, we cannot build our own) | 08:55 |
| GeneralAntilles | Sooo, who wants to flesh out http://wiki.maemo.org/Installing_applications#Console ? :P | 08:55 |
| qwerty12 | sudo gainroot | 08:56 |
| qwerty12 | to install from a repo | 08:56 |
| qwerty12 | apt-get install whatever | 08:56 |
| qwerty12 | to install from a local deb | 08:56 |
| qwerty12 | dpkg -i /path/to/.deb | 08:56 |
| qwerty12 | Of course, that would have to be heavily expanded :P | 08:56 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yeah, yeah. | 08:57 |
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| GeneralAntilles | I could do it myself. | 08:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | I just don't want to. | 08:57 |
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| rm_you_ | so voting started? >_> | 08:58 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps: btw, is the only way to compile stuff for debian is on a tablet? I don't want to be like lcuk :P | 08:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | rm_you_, why the face? | 08:59 |
| rm_you_ | no reason :P | 08:59 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: yeah, i noticed (esound), regarding compile stuff - i think it's possible to set up a a debian armel target in sb | 09:02 |
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| qwerty12 | Stskeeps: Cool, I really don't want to touch some of this stuff on a tablet. I'm tempted to throw it out when using MicroB, doing a compile would make actually throw it out | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: http://www.scratchbox.org/documentation/docbook/debiandevelopment.html | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | i did a linux kernel compile. isnotthatbad | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:03 |
| qwerty12 | sbox does that for me :P | 09:03 |
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| Stskeeps | qwerty12: post updated indicating your interests in some of the challenges | 09:08 |
| qwerty12 | Cool, sorry to be unsure about it but I need to do some work here as well | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | ofcourse :) | 09:09 |
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| Stskeeps | my first priority is my own work too, so, deblet is just a nice hobby :> | 09:09 |
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| qwerty12 | :) | 09:09 |
| qwerty12 | I'm booting into debian now to see what is the problem with mpd | 09:10 |
| rm_you_ | omfg sweet! it's working!!! | 09:10 |
| rm_you_ | IT'S ALIVE!!! | 09:10 |
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| qwerty12 | I'm excited for you but I don't know what to be excited about :P | 09:10 |
| rm_you | :P | 09:10 |
| rm_you | i got two residential cable lines, 12mbit each, running in parallel | 09:10 |
| qwerty12 | crap, nice one | 09:11 |
| GAN800 | sicko | 09:11 |
| rm_you | and my debian router machine is doing load balancing | 09:11 |
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| GAN800 | $$? | 09:11 |
| rm_you | one torrent runs at 1.4MB/s down on one connection, 2.8MB/s with both :P | 09:11 |
| rm_you | $97 a month for two 12mbit lines and basic cable | 09:12 |
| GAN800 | Not bad | 09:12 |
| rm_you | ooo | 09:12 |
| rm_you | 3.0MBps :P | 09:12 |
| * rm_you dances | 09:12 | |
| qwerty12 | effing hell, all I did was install debian, boot into it, install irssi and run shutdown -r now and now it doesn't want to boot :P | 09:12 |
| rm_you | i need to grab a third line | 09:12 |
| rm_you | screw the cable tv | 09:13 |
| rm_you | i need more internet :P | 09:13 |
| qwerty12 | yer, if it's anything like british cable, it's easy to hack | 09:13 |
| rm_you | i don't even care | 09:13 |
| rm_you | at 3Mbps, i can stream 720p, i think :P | 09:14 |
| Pebby | what's the upstream, though? ;) | 09:15 |
| rm_you | .... 2Mbps <_< | 09:15 |
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| rm_you | combined >_< | 09:16 |
| qwerty12 | Well, google have made an linux chrome port but after the security flaw, I don't think I want to install it :P | 09:16 |
| rm_you | lol? | 09:17 |
| Pebby | i wish comcast would sell me my package i have with up/downstream reversed | 09:17 |
| doc|home | a security flaw already? | 09:17 |
| qwerty12 | http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/security_flaw_in_google_chrome.php | 09:17 |
| doc|home | hahaha | 09:17 |
| n800m | pfft security flaw | 09:21 |
| doc|home | pffft, *previously patched* security flaw | 09:22 |
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| rm_you | pfft, more like a user stupidity flaw | 09:27 |
| * rm_you is not worried | 09:27 | |
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| doc|home | rm_you: how? | 09:27 |
| * doc|home thinks we have our first chromium fanboi :) | 09:28 | |
| rm_you | any time a user has to actually click through things to make the bad things happen, that's a user stupidity flaw <_< | 09:28 |
| rm_you | yes, it could be better, but it isn't by any means the "gaping security flaw" that all the news sites are toting it as | 09:29 |
| rm_you | i was thinking it would like, automatically execute code on my machine | 09:29 |
| rm_you | which would be bad | 09:29 |
| rm_you | as long as i'm semi-intelligent, there's no danger <_< | 09:29 |
| rm_you | also, i hadn't even used chrome till just now... i downloaded it about 3 minutes ago specifically to test out this "flaw" | 09:30 |
| rm_you | i just hate all the fear-mongering | 09:30 |
| n800m | if this is the worst news, it's doing pretty well as far as security | 09:31 |
| qwerty12 | GeneralAntilles: No fair, I want to see more beagleboard porn | 09:32 |
| rm_you | hrm | 09:32 |
| rm_you | it's open source. | 09:32 |
| doc|home | rm_you: java apps are supposed to be sandboxed, if they can save shit to your harddisk it's most definitely a problem | 09:32 |
| rm_you | neat | 09:32 |
| GeneralAntilles | qwerty12, I left the good camera at home | 09:33 |
| mavhc | java apps can save to your hd, you're thinking of applets | 09:33 |
| qwerty12 | GeneralAntilles: Ah :) | 09:33 |
| GeneralAntilles | I'm not sure I can bring myself to shoot pictures of it with the crap one I've got here. | 09:33 |
| doc|home | mavhc: yes, sorry, I meant applets | 09:33 |
| rm_you | ... mine popped up and said "where would you like to save this file?" so i selected a place, and then it downloaded, and popped itself into the download bar on the bottom... and when i clicked it, it ran... exactly expected behavior, IMO | 09:33 |
| doc|home | rm_you: that doesn't sound like what the article mentions | 09:33 |
| n800m | yeah | 09:33 |
| mavhc | what's this gaping security flaw, url? | 09:33 |
| rm_you | http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/security_flaw_in_google_chrome.php | 09:34 |
| rm_you | demo: http://raffon.net/research/google/chrome/carpet.html | 09:34 |
| rm_you | basically the same thing in opera, except i need to double click | 09:34 |
| rm_you | firefox, same, just requires doubleclick | 09:34 |
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| rm_you | this is stupid <_< | 09:34 |
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| doc|home | if there's a save dialog then yeah, it's stupid, but wasn't it the lack of one they were mentioning | 09:35 |
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| n800m | it's like cheney iis writing software reviews | 09:35 |
| doc|home | cheney can write? | 09:35 |
| qwerty12 | That piece of shit can't do nothing | 09:35 |
| n800m | with hot lead | 09:35 |
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| rm_you | ohhhh, in the options i have "ask me for download location" set | 09:36 |
| n800m | what a cheap fucking way to get hits on a website | 09:36 |
| n800m | why didn't i think of that | 09:36 |
| rm_you | ... | 09:36 |
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| rm_you | sec, lemmie turn that off in firefox and see if it does the same thing | 09:36 |
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| rm_you | ah no, firefox doesn't do what i expect it to do... | 09:40 |
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| rm_you | meaning, it seems to entirely ignore my settings for auto-downloading | 09:41 |
| rm_you | i guess that's "more secure"?! | 09:41 |
| rm_you | >_< | 09:41 |
| n800m | 3? | 09:41 |
| rm_you | no, 2 :/ | 09:41 |
| rm_you | i need to update, don't I <_< | 09:41 |
| n800m | well | 09:42 |
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| n800m | i use 3 and i can save something with one click | 09:42 |
| n800m | i don't see how that's any diferent | 09:42 |
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| n800m | always been able to do it | 09:42 |
| rm_you | so am i not the only person that thinks this "security scare" is a bit far-fetched? | 09:43 |
| n800m | it's bull | 09:43 |
| n800m | but it;s a good wy to get hits | 09:44 |
| rm_you | yeah, thanks | 09:44 |
| rm_you | someone else thinks it's kind of bogus | 09:44 |
| aspect | gaping security flaw + chrome in your link title | 09:44 |
| aspect | only way to garner more bloglinks would be to mention the iphone | 09:44 |
| n800m | hah | 09:45 |
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| rm_you | wow, so that safari nightly build is actually pretty neat | 09:58 |
| rm_you | i like watching acid3 just fly to completion :P | 09:58 |
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| Stskeeps | qwerty12: doesn't want to boot? | 10:03 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps: nope | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | where does it stall? | 10:04 |
| qwerty12 | give me a sec, i'll start it again | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | i had a weird issue with screen being dimmed, rebooting from ssh, and then it just went into a dead mode where it was obviously restarted, but it didn't want to boot from power key | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | had to pop battery | 10:05 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps: /etc/rc2.d/S89cron: 49: tail: not found | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | eh | 10:05 |
| qwerty12 | Stopping boot logger: bootlog | 10:05 |
| qwerty12 | dsp_dld: event detected | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | wtf @ tail not found | 10:05 |
| qwerty12 | The most exciting thing I did was install irssi :P | 10:05 |
| qwerty12 | I dunno :( | 10:05 |
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| Stskeeps | ext2 or ext3? | 10:06 |
| qwerty12 | ext2 | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | i've seen extreme examples where ext2 wiped out a lot of files | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | i use ext3 for this reason | 10:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | qwerty12, added a few more shots with the crap camera. :P | 10:06 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps: I will reformat ext4 | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | even if it does more wearing, it's more secur | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | e | 10:06 |
| qwerty12 | *3 | 10:06 |
| qwerty12 | GeneralAntilles: Thanks :) | 10:06 |
| rm_you | aww | 10:06 |
| rm_you | i was like... ext4! woot! :P | 10:06 |
| qwerty12 | lol :P | 10:06 |
| rm_you | now with.... even more journaling? | 10:07 |
| rm_you | anyways, sleep :P | 10:07 |
| * rm_you sleeps | 10:07 | |
| Stskeeps | are the mmc cards on two different channels btw? *considers journalling on external device..* | 10:07 |
| qwerty12 | no idea | 10:08 |
| aquatix | morning all | 10:09 |
| * rm_you wonders how well chrome//linux would port to a mobile device, like, for instance, a NIT | 10:10 | |
| GeneralAntilles | It's about as bloated as it can get | 10:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | ~200MB of RAM doing nothing. | 10:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's designed to thrive on speed and power. | 10:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | Not play nice in a limited environment. | 10:11 |
| rm_you | hrm | 10:12 |
| rm_you | just seems like it would be nice to have a webkit browser with a really nice interface | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | epiphany-webkit exists though | 10:12 |
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| rm_you | <_< | 10:12 |
| rm_you | well, sleep | 10:13 |
| * rm_you actually sleeps | 10:13 | |
| * qwerty12 got directfb compiled with the omap gfx driver, I'll compile some test apps later and try them out :> | 10:14 | |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:20 |
| lbt | morning | 11:20 |
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| lcuk | hmmm voting page comes up with only "Maemo Community council election September 2008" and no content after i login with the token specified | 14:25 |
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| lardman | click on that link | 14:25 |
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| lcuk | lardman, i did | 14:26 |
| lardman | oh | 14:26 |
| jott | for me it took *ages* to load. | 14:27 |
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| jott | i just put the tab in the background and did other stuff ;) | 14:27 |
| lcuk | went here: http://maemo.org/vote/ selected which election, entered email addy and token, then it brought up an almost blank page | 14:27 |
| lcuk | page is complete though | 14:27 |
| lcuk | it was quick and is not pending any further information | 14:27 |
| * lcuk must not be welcome to vote :( | 14:28 | |
| lardman | lol | 14:28 |
| lardman | sure you didn't sleep-vote last night? :) | 14:28 |
| lcuk | positive - first time ive used the token | 14:29 |
| lcuk | and no wine recently either | 14:29 |
| jott | but beer? :) | 14:29 |
| jott | or schnaps? :) | 14:30 |
| lcuk | no | 14:30 |
| lcuk | i had bacon | 14:30 |
| jott | hmmm :) | 14:30 |
| * XTL is starving | 14:30 | |
| lcuk | i wasnt going to, but the bread was frozen, and a ham sandwich on toast just isnt the same- so i made a blt :) | 14:30 |
| * jott gets hungry too after all this bacon talk :) | 14:30 | |
| lcuk | :D heh i love my keyword trigger. i am eternally grateful for lardman for giving me the idea | 14:31 |
| lardman | oi! | 14:31 |
| lardman | making me hungry too, only 30min till lunch :) | 14:31 |
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| lcuk | heh lol | 14:35 |
| jott | lcuk infected everyone with a bacon virus | 14:36 |
| lcuk | theres no reported bugs | 14:36 |
| * lcuk is confuddled | 14:36 | |
| lcuk | if you think its bad now, just wait for the summit | 14:36 |
| lardman | try again? | 14:36 |
| lardman | no bacon in Germany you mean?# | 14:36 |
| jott | you get bacon here, no worries :) | 14:37 |
| lardman | good good | 14:37 |
| lcuk | lardman, no i have written "i am hungry" | 14:38 |
| lcuk | think of the iphone app "i am rich" but involving bacon :) | 14:38 |
| jott | you should really put the word bacon in it ;) | 14:38 |
| jott | otherwise you might just get a salad ;) | 14:38 |
| lcuk | yer, but if you put bacon into a salad, it stops being a sald and becomes "hunt the bacon" | 14:39 |
| jott | ;> | 14:39 |
| jott | i heard that before ;) | 14:39 |
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| lcuk | ;) some comedian guy in a standup routine telling far too many bacon jokes | 14:40 |
| jott | but remember it might be salad without bacon :). | 14:40 |
| jott | ah right. i saw this ;) | 14:40 |
| lcuk | NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooOOOoOoOooooOOOoOoooo | 14:40 |
| lcuk | looking at the results ive got, its a problem within vote.php - something is making it bail before its added the content for the next step (i assume candidate list) | 14:41 |
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| lcuk | looks like it cannot open the database - i dont know tonnes about php, but following the source for vote.php (actual source dave gave a link before he went on holiday a few weeks ago) | 14:54 |
| _marcell_ | lcuk: I asked bergie to take a look | 14:59 |
| lcuk | i also sent a mail back to dave :) thanks marcell | 15:00 |
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| lcuk | damn, gotta run, bbiab | 15:04 |
| jott | lcuk: if ($user=="lcuk") exit(); ? ;) | 15:06 |
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| roadies | what is the gstreamer-tools package apt-get repository url? I have installed deb http://repository.maemo.org/ bora free non-free and deb http://maemo-hackers.org/apt bora main into sources.list but it doesnt work | 15:31 |
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| mib1 | Hi all | 15:36 |
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| mib1 | Just a quick question | 15:37 |
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| mib1 | Can I repartition the external mmc card on a N810 using the usb cable? The N810 is unable to finish booting because I borked rootfs partition, and I want to put debian in the external card to boot from there | 15:39 |
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| glass | dunno why it wouldn't be possible | 15:40 |
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| mib1 | That is, the access to the mmc card through usb cable is direct then | 15:41 |
| Stskeeps | mib1: rootfs partition, - cloned OS2008 or? | 15:43 |
| liri | yay!! | 15:43 |
| liri | the google maps service now allows mapping of my country (probably not complete but still!!!) | 15:43 |
| liri | great, now I can use maemo mapper with my n810 (used a roadmap svn branch until now) | 15:44 |
| mib1 | rootfs partition in internal jffs2 flash, Diablo, I borked it by linking /var/tmp to /tmp to avoid writes to internal flash | 15:45 |
| mib1 | Now it hangs at the end of boot process. I need to boot from mmc to fix it | 15:46 |
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| roadies | what is the responsibility for OS2008 gstreamer? thanks... | 15:52 |
| crashanddie | roadies, erhm, everything sound related ? | 15:53 |
| crashanddie | roadies, well, not everything, but it's just a very big thing, why ? | 15:53 |
| roadies | crashanddie: I'm trying to use the gst-launch tool... which isnt on my OS2008 n810 | 15:54 |
| crashanddie | do you have diablo or just chinook ? | 15:54 |
| roadies | diablo | 15:55 |
| crashanddie | hang on, lemme try | 15:55 |
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| crashanddie | roadies, if it's of any comfort to you, I don't have it on my NIT either ;) | 15:56 |
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| roadies | crashanddie: one always love company.... even when its two deer in headlights ;-) | 15:57 |
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| crashanddie | roadies, gst-launch is apparently in the gstreamer-tools package | 15:59 |
| crashanddie | roadies, which sadly, I don't see in the repo | 16:00 |
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| roadies | yes and that defines my problem..... | 16:00 |
| roadies | crashanddie: thanks for looking | 16:01 |
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| RST38h | Hehe, darius is at it again | 16:20 |
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| * lardman wonders if the latest tremor code is markedly better than the probaby rather old tremor-lowmem code | 17:06 | |
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| derf | I doubt it. The whole project has been fairly dormant for years. | 17:10 |
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| lardman | I've seen a mistake in the lowmem-no-byte code, namely the requirement of a 8bit byte type | 17:10 |
| derf | If you've got the RAM, though, you shouldn't be using lowmem. | 17:10 |
| lardman | nah, pretty limited really on the DSP | 17:11 |
| derf | It's much slower. | 17:11 |
| lardman | oh | 17:11 |
| lardman | well that may be troublesome | 17:11 |
| lardman | are there figures for the memory requrements lying about anywhere? | 17:11 |
| derf | Check the mailing list archives. | 17:12 |
| lardman | codebook.c on the latest Tremor code looks far less complex than that in the lowmem-(nobyte) code | 17:12 |
| lardman | ok, will do | 17:12 |
| derf | I seem to recall some, but I'm typing this on my NIT at a conference, so... | 17:12 |
| lardman | no probs, I'm just wondering if I should cut my losses and think about porting from Tremor proper, or continuing the way I am | 17:13 |
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| lardman | http://focus.ti.com/lit/ml/sprp525/sprp525.pdf they make it sound so easy :) | 17:21 |
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| qwerty12 | woot, new kernel source diablo available. I'll update my kernel to that version, even if it is the same :P | 17:26 |
| lardman | lcuk: you see dneary's email? | 17:26 |
| lardman | qwerty12: :) | 17:26 |
| dneary | someone called? | 17:26 |
| qwerty12 | hey lardman :) | 17:26 |
| lardman | dneary: lcuk was complaining that he couldn't vote earlier | 17:26 |
| dneary | lardman: Ah | 17:26 |
| dneary | I send so many :) | 17:26 |
| fred | lardman: oooooh | 17:26 |
| dneary | I was wondering which one you were talking about | 17:26 |
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| lardman | fair enough, the one that just popped up in my inbox then :) | 17:27 |
| dneary | Funny - I've been getting a lot of people replying to the voting token mail, resulting in that thread having new mail, but it being slightly hidden in Thunderbird on account of the thread being older | 17:27 |
| dneary | lardman: Ah! That clears it up | 17:27 |
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| aquatix | andrewfblack: you here? | 17:32 |
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| andrewfblack | I'm here | 17:39 |
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| lcuk | serious note, tsk tsk - you made changes to something which didnt need them - and you also forgot to update the date embedded within the vote.php page (it sends it to the client as meta info) and also, if theres a voting problem you left the gnome address there :P | 17:43 |
| lcuk | hmmm where did half that go | 17:43 |
| lcuk | dneary hahahaha @ changes, does it mean i can vote now? | 17:44 |
| dneary | lcuk: Normally, yes | 17:44 |
| lcuk | mentally reverse the order of those posts ^ | 17:44 |
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| * lcuk made a similar cockup today :) | 17:45 | |
| andrewfblack | I still can't figure out why I didn't get a vote email to my second maemo account | 17:46 |
| andrewfblack | I don't know if my work killed it as spam or what | 17:46 |
| aquatix | :( | 17:47 |
| aquatix | sue IT | 17:47 |
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| qwerty12 | ~curse hal, udev and all the other crap that automounts my partitions | 17:53 |
| infobot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, hal, udev and all the other crap that automounts my partitions ! | 17:53 |
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| sven-tek | the time is right to check out diable now :-) | 17:54 |
| qwerty12 | lmao, darius is calling anidel a troll and darius is a legend in poland | 17:54 |
| sven-tek | diablo | 17:54 |
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| tekojo | Hi all! | 17:58 |
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| tekojo | I thought I'd make an introduction | 17:59 |
| tekojo | I'm the new Nokia project manager for the maemo.org hardware and service side | 18:00 |
| andrewfblack | Hello | 18:00 |
| florian | hi tekojo | 18:00 |
| tekojo | Hi | 18:00 |
| qwerty12 | Heh, nice to meet you tekojo. I'm the local #maemo troll :P :) | 18:00 |
| andre__ | cool, tekojo is around! hej hej! (we met a week ago) :) | 18:00 |
| tekojo | Hi andre! good to talk again | 18:01 |
| tekojo | qwerty12 I notice, I've lurked a couple of times here this week | 18:01 |
| qwerty12 | :), I do have my occasions where I am useful :). | 18:02 |
| andrewfblack | just a few qwerty12 :) | 18:02 |
| tekojo | Based on my limited experience, definately yes | 18:03 |
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| qwerty12 | I just have to curb my swearing habit on this channel :) | 18:03 |
| tekojo | Is this a family friendly place? | 18:03 |
| qwerty12 | Hmm, I'm 15, anyone younger here? Others swear sometimes but not as much as me + I use more words :P | 18:04 |
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| andre__ | more or less, apart from the daily rant on nokia :-P | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | or complaining about code | 18:05 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:05 |
| andre__ | right | 18:05 |
| tekojo | :) | 18:05 |
| andrewfblack | young people always swear more | 18:05 |
| qwerty12 | I'm ~lart'ing and ~curse'ing all the time | 18:05 |
| qwerty12 | ~lart andrewfblack for that stereotype for example | 18:05 |
| * infobot smacks andrewfblack for that stereotype up side the head with a clue-by-4 for example | 18:05 | |
| qwerty12 | :P | 18:05 |
| andrewfblack | hey shouldn't you be in school | 18:06 |
| qwerty12 | Nay, this is BST, I was already out an hour ago :P | 18:06 |
| andrewfblack | yeah I know I was just messing with you | 18:07 |
| andre__ | tekojo, are there plans to blog on planet maemo about your tasks (and maybe changes)? | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | http://bsd.tspre.org/~stskeeps/nit-debian/lxde.png <- lxde is kinda neat on the tablet | 18:07 |
| tekojo | Yes, I'll try to get the team maemo blog going again | 18:07 |
| andre__ | ah, right, even the team one... i like that idea | 18:08 |
| andre__ | looking forward to that | 18:08 |
| tekojo | Yes, and I intend to someone else to give an occational line or two too | 18:08 |
| * yacoob skims backlog. qwerty12, you youngling! get off my lawn! | 18:08 | |
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| Stskeeps | qwerty12: after a year on irc i swore like a sailor | 18:09 |
| * qwerty12 pops yacoob. You get off the lawn, you're staining it with your blood! | 18:09 | |
| Stskeeps | (started at 13 :P) | 18:09 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps: lol | 18:09 |
| andrewfblack | qwerty12 was in diapers when I started using IRC :) | 18:10 |
| yacoob | Bah! When I was your age I... I... uh... I kept music down, you little! | 18:10 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps: Sorry but I switched from nit-env-stskeeps to the gnome one. env-stskeeps is too minimal for me | 18:10 |
| qwerty12 | andrewfblack: so, is that why you use mibbit? | 18:10 |
| qwerty12 | yacoob: lol :P | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: i got tired of nit-env-stskeeps too - it was mainly something to illustrate use of deblet tech | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: new std environment would prolly be lxde based | 18:11 |
| qwerty12 | cool, lxde looks good | 18:11 |
| andrewfblack | qwerty12 I use mibbit because I have enough crap on my work computer to get me fired as it is | 18:11 |
| qwerty12 | andrewfblack: have you seen my user area at school? | 18:11 |
| andrewfblack | I havn't found a decent looking on that runs off of USB yet | 18:12 |
| andrewfblack | qwerty12 nope | 18:12 |
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| qwerty12 | I keep games and some hax tools there | 18:12 |
| qwerty12 | ~lart directfb for the omap driver not working | 18:12 |
| * infobot executes killall -HUP directfb for the omap driver not working | 18:12 | |
| andrewfblack | I think alot more on my school computer as well but back then we didn't need admin to install stuff like now | 18:13 |
| qwerty12 | I needed admin, so I went out and got it | 18:13 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps: soon as I get debian working, I'll work on mpd for sure | 18:14 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps: without a proper esd daemon though, the sound is going to be awful though unless alsa actually works in debian? | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: fillin package that performs modifications should do the trick | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | alsa does work | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | atleast alsaplayer does | 18:15 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps: alsaplayer was producing *horrible* sound y/day | 18:15 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps: dunno about a fillin package, I prefer to make changes directly to the deb file and then update the md5sums | 18:16 |
| qwerty12 | or delete the md5sums if I changed/added too many files :P | 18:16 |
| lbt | sorry | 18:20 |
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| * lbt couldn't resist prodding the troll | 18:21 | |
| qwerty12 | lbt: did you get the initfs toolchain set up? | 18:21 |
| lbt | downloaded it | 18:22 |
| * qwerty12 used the tar.gz version | 18:22 | |
| lbt | been <shock>working</shock> today | 18:22 |
| qwerty12 | work?!? :O | 18:22 |
| * qwerty12 had all double lessons today >.< | 18:22 | |
| lbt | I know | 18:22 |
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| Stskeeps | zenity --scale --max-value=127 --print-partial | sudo xargs -L 1 /bin/set_backlight | 18:28 |
| Stskeeps | ^ backlight scale in a line | 18:28 |
| Stskeeps | heh | 18:28 |
| Stskeeps | (set_backlight > something/panel/backlight_level | 18:28 |
| Stskeeps | i guess i should use dsme instead thoug | 18:29 |
| Stskeeps | h | 18:29 |
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| lardman | mm, that itt thread is quite entertaining | 18:37 |
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| ustunozgur_ | hi, is there a way to turn off the warning when installing a non-nokia app? ""Nokia has neither created nor delivered this software ..." | 18:38 |
| hrw | hack h-a-m | 18:39 |
| qwerty12 | ustunozgur_: Modify the app installer source, I made some patches somewhere for removing that message but they are out of date | 18:39 |
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| ustunozgur_ | qwerty12: ok, thanks. | 18:40 |
| qwerty12 | I don't think I have them anymore but I'm not a programmer but I was able to read that code :) | 18:41 |
| andrewfblack | strange I am banned from joining a channel I've never joined before | 18:41 |
| qwerty12 | Probably because you are using mibbit | 18:42 |
| andrewfblack | thats screwed up | 18:42 |
| qwerty12 | some chans don't accept web client | 18:42 |
| glass | some channels require identify | 18:42 |
| ustunozgur_ | the function names are appropriately "annoy user" and such. here https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/osso-application-installer/src/util.cc | 18:44 |
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| qwerty12 | look for show legalese too | 18:45 |
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| qwerty12 | I just patch the source to jump straight to the installing function, you have to patch it in two places, one for installing from a repo, one for installing from a local deb | 18:46 |
| qwerty12 | iirc, the file you want to look at is operations.cc | 18:47 |
| andrewfblack | well I even tried to install Mirc and can't connect they must be blocking a port | 18:48 |
| andrewfblack | I guess I could VNC to home computer and just Chat from there | 18:48 |
| qwerty12 | You should run linux on your home computer and ssh from your workplace ;) | 18:49 |
| andrewfblack | I run linux on 2 of my servers but windows on my main computers | 18:50 |
| qwerty12 | :) | 18:50 |
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| andrewfblack | I have always played to many games to use linux on main computer | 18:50 |
| Khertan2 | do you know if darius jack come to maemo summit ? | 18:52 |
| qwerty12 | If he is, have the tomatoes ready | 18:52 |
| lardman | http://www.embeddedtechjournal.com/articles_2005/20051004_arm.htm interesting | 18:53 |
| Khertan2 | arg i ve think to buy some some week before ... | 18:54 |
| qwerty12 | lardman: mind sharing me an English version please? :) | 18:54 |
| Khertan2 | as if i buy it now ... there will not moisture ... | 18:54 |
| lardman | need it translated to cockney rhyming slang hey? ;) | 18:55 |
| Khertan2 | s/will/will have | 18:55 |
| qwerty12 | lardman: Nah, hate that rubbish, I'm not even from London, instead it's all about modern slang :P | 18:55 |
| Khertan2 | > > COULD YOU STOP SPAMMING THIS LIST ? THANKS ! | 18:55 |
| Khertan2 | > | 18:55 |
| Khertan2 | > | 18:55 |
| Khertan2 | > Instead of just arguing (which is quite annoying BTW), why | 18:55 |
| Khertan2 | > dont you write | 18:55 |
| Khertan2 | > some code | 18:55 |
| Khertan2 | haha ... very funny | 18:55 |
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| qwerty12 | Khertan2: Nice Python code :) | 18:56 |
| lardman | cu all tomorrow | 18:57 |
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| Khertan2 | maemo@bitblit.net == darius jack ? | 18:58 |
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| andrewfblack | you know I remember windows used to come with an IRC client I wonde why they got ride of it | 19:15 |
| johnx | Probably to push new users towards MSN | 19:16 |
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| Stskeeps | 'lo johnx | 19:18 |
| johnx | hey | 19:18 |
| johnx | how's it going? | 19:19 |
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| Stskeeps | johnx: i'm writing a small thing that uses zenity and is insertable into lxde's application launch bar | 19:19 |
| Stskeeps | (that panel preferences is wonderful) | 19:19 |
| Stskeeps | also i've added nit-env-lxde (basically what is needed to get lxde running, nothing else) to repository | 19:19 |
| Stskeeps | johnx: oh, and it's the brightness adjustment :P | 19:19 |
| johnx | I'm still trying to make matchbox-keyboard play nice with openbox | 19:20 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, that's prolly biggest challenge | 19:20 |
| johnx | I didn't have much luck so I'm going to try lxde panel+matchbox | 19:20 |
| johnx | I really did want the option of "floating" some windows though :/ | 19:20 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. what about GNOME on screen keyboard? | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | or doesnt it sit itself ideally into the screen? | 19:21 |
| johnx | I haven't looked at it | 19:21 |
| johnx | I like matchbox keyboard because it's so light and there's a nice thumbable key layout for it... | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 19:22 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.gok.ca/ | 19:22 |
| johnx | yeah, looking at screenshots | 19:22 |
| johnx | it's hideous looking O_o | 19:23 |
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| Stskeeps | yup | 19:23 |
| Khertan2 | ouch : "ca pique les yeux | 19:24 |
| Khertan2 | " | 19:24 |
| Khertan2 | :) | 19:24 |
| Khertan2 | bye | 19:24 |
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| qwerty12 | Something about eyes | 19:24 |
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| johnx | Stskeeps, well I built matchbox wm with session management, so I'll play with that first and see if it makes me happy | 19:25 |
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| andre__ | ..."it hurts my eyes" for the non-frenchies :) | 19:25 |
| qwerty12 | Ta, my french sucks :) | 19:28 |
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| * lcuk stretches and yawns even thou hes been up for ages | 19:56 | |
| Stskeeps | johnx: did you see my challenges post btw? | 19:56 |
| johnx | erm...I don't think so | 19:56 |
| johnx | on ITT? | 19:57 |
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| qwerty12 | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23371 | 19:57 |
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| Stskeeps | waving fresh meat in front of the people who like to hack their deblet ;) | 19:58 |
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| lcuk | Stskeeps, you dont do things by halves do you - thats an impressive todo list | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | lcuk: i'm just insane | 19:59 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:59 |
| Stskeeps | and any of these are bloody brilliant to have really | 19:59 |
| lcuk | not really - at least you are starting with a known os | 19:59 |
| johnx | lcuk, nah, he's just insane...but I agree with him on not taking half measures :) | 20:00 |
| * qwerty12 waits for his latest kernel to compile. at least the 35KB patch applied cleanly | 20:00 | |
| lcuk | Stskeeps, whats keeping most of these things from being used directly from native debian? is it the underlying drivers? | 20:01 |
| johnx | lcuk, *sigh* Nokia does things in strange ways a lot of the time | 20:01 |
| Stskeeps | what johnx said | 20:01 |
| johnx | so there's a "linux way" and a "Nokia way" | 20:01 |
| Stskeeps | ideally they would be HAL values or something | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | but it's not often there's a GUI for USB host/gadget for instance | 20:02 |
| johnx | well, it's not often that's even a user configurable option :) | 20:03 |
| johnx | embedded harware is always fun | 20:03 |
| Stskeeps | johnx: did you see lxlauncher btw? | 20:03 |
| johnx | Stskeeps, yeah, I tried it but the font size is hardcoded | 20:04 |
| qwerty12 | It was Tony Lindgren's work with backporting usb host that started it off on N800 wasn't it? | 20:04 |
| johnx | it looks pretty darn nice though | 20:04 |
| johnx | Stskeeps, I have a somewhat novel idea for the lxde desktop though... | 20:04 |
| Stskeeps | johnx: mm? | 20:04 |
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| johnx | I'm just throwing this out as a concept, but I'm thinking of moving the "statusbar"/systray applets to a panel that's only visible when the desktop is shown | 20:06 |
| qwerty12 | Interesting, it's possible for the the WiMax chip to be run at 48Mhz | 20:06 |
| johnx | I'd also like to be able to run some of the maemo desktop applets | 20:07 |
| johnx | That's next on my list after playing with matchbox (or gnome) keyboard a little bit | 20:07 |
| Stskeeps | johnx: could be interesting.. i'm the type who'd like a shortcut to go to desktop then though | 20:07 |
| Stskeeps | like, keyboard shortcut | 20:07 |
| johnx | the home key seems like a good candidate | 20:08 |
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| qwerty12 | Stskeeps: btw, was the WEXT patch you used for the cx3100 the one of the mailing list? | 20:08 |
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| Stskeeps | qwerty12: yes, but i applied an extra fix on top to make it signal it supports WPA etc | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: any stability problems with that one? | 20:09 |
| qwerty12 | Thanks, no, I'm just curious :) | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | http://bsd.tspre.org/~stskeeps/nit-debian/lxde-brightness.png | 20:09 |
| johnx | Stskeeps, gorgeous! | 20:11 |
| johnx | ah, lxlauncher must work nice as long as you lie about the dpi... | 20:11 |
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| * johnx grumbles about people who don't think about high dpi screens when they write code... | 20:13 | |
| Stskeeps | okay | 20:13 |
| Stskeeps | now i'm scared | 20:13 |
| Stskeeps | it says "Senior member" next to me on ITT :/ | 20:13 |
| qwerty12 | Stskeeps: happens above a certain post count | 20:13 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, just reached post 100 :P | 20:14 |
| johnx | yeah, I don't want to think about how many posts I've made... | 20:14 |
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| qwerty12 | On ITT, TBH, I don't really notice my post count | 20:15 |
| andrewfblack | look Qwerty12no Mibbit :) | 20:15 |
| qwerty12 | OMG, andrewfblack without mibbit? :P :) | 20:16 |
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| andrewfblack | lol for a few mins this IRC over VNC will drive me crazy | 20:16 |
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| johnx | Stskeeps, are you using gdm with lxde? | 20:17 |
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| svu | where could I find osso-software-version-rx44 ? | 20:21 |
| svu | I uninstalled it :( | 20:21 |
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| Stskeeps | johnx: yes | 20:28 |
| Stskeeps | johnx: i made an autologin package | 20:28 |
| Stskeeps | well, b-man or fatalsaint did | 20:29 |
| sven-tek | oups, i removed busybox | 20:29 |
| johnx | Stskeeps, a package just to set the "autologin" bit in gdm or something else? | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | johnx: something that makes it autologin to user in /etc/tablet_user | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | in gdm | 20:29 |
| johnx | fair enough | 20:29 |
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| Stskeeps | it also starts up the X server sanely and all that jazz | 20:30 |
| johnx | my setup is starting to diverge already... | 20:30 |
| Stskeeps | http://trac.tspre.org/svn/deblet/trunk/nit-base-packages/nit-env-lxde/DEBIAN/control <- just a metapackage | 20:31 |
| johnx | well the one thing about matchbox wm is it really works great with matchbox keyboard :/ | 20:33 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 20:33 |
| * johnx sighs | 20:33 | |
| Stskeeps | i wonder what makes the magic happen | 20:33 |
| johnx | it's just about window handling... | 20:34 |
| RST38h | Anybody using Pidgin? | 20:34 |
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| johnx | I *think* the same thing could be done in openbox if matchbox keyboard set its WM_CLASS to *anything* | 20:34 |
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| johnx | but it leaves it blank so openbox can't match against it...maybe devilspie is the answer... | 20:35 |
| tekojo | RST38h on a NIT | 20:35 |
| RST38h | yes | 20:35 |
| tekojo | Yes, currently | 20:36 |
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| RST38h | do you know if it is worth installing collabora version in stead of nix? | 20:38 |
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| tekojo | Sorry can't help haven't tried both | 20:39 |
| tekojo | I have the nix version | 20:40 |
| RST38h | are you using the nix one then? | 20:40 |
| RST38h | same here | 20:40 |
| RST38h | App Manager is offering to install the collabora version but it is 20MB extra | 20:40 |
| tekojo | 20, that's a lot | 20:41 |
| RST38h | a lot of it can probably be deleted later | 20:42 |
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| Stskeeps | johnx: hack matchbox-keyboard? :P | 20:48 |
| johnx | yeah, maybe... | 20:48 |
| johnx | trying to avoid that | 20:48 |
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| svu | rtcom-beta-os2008: Depends: telepathy-haze (>= 0.2.0-1collabora1) but 0.1.4-0collabora1 is to be installed | 20:49 |
| svu | where would I find the right package? | 20:49 |
| RST38h | collabora repo | 20:49 |
| RST38h | Track This | 20:51 |
| RST38h | Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." | 20:51 |
| RST38h | Hehe | 20:51 |
| johnx | RST38h, so you're getting into US politics these days? | 20:51 |
| RST38h | johnx: No, reading dailyrotten.com | 20:52 |
| johnx | aaah | 20:52 |
| RST38h | johnx: Although I do have to admit that they have a lot in common | 20:52 |
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| svu | RST38h, which repo? could you give me the url please? | 20:52 |
| johnx | ah, the idea of censorship in the age of the internet...so quaint | 20:53 |
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| RST38h | svu: http://fms.komkon.org/Maemo/ and search for package there | 20:53 |
| RST38h | It will let you install from the right repo | 20:53 |
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| RST38h | johnx: censorship isn't interesting enough | 20:54 |
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| RST38h | johnx: but book burning is nice, yes =) | 20:54 |
| tekojo | andrewfblack, back on mibbit :) | 20:54 |
| Khertan_n810 | Hi | 20:54 |
| Khertan_n810 | just a question , i lack of a good idea | 20:54 |
| Khertan_n810 | mCalendar can sync in background now | 20:54 |
| Khertan_n810 | but how can i avoid two sync at the same time | 20:54 |
| RST38h | create a lock file | 20:55 |
| Khertan_n810 | i ve think of a stupid file in /tmp | 20:55 |
| RST38h | basically, yes | 20:55 |
| Khertan_n810 | but if sync crash ... | 20:55 |
| RST38h | there is a method to avoid it gracefully | 20:55 |
| svu | RST38h, thanks! | 20:55 |
| RST38h | Into that file, write the timestamp of when you are starting to sync | 20:55 |
| Khertan_n810 | user will with message an other sync is in progress | 20:55 |
| RST38h | If the second sync can't open the lock file for writing | 20:56 |
| RST38h | It should open it for reading and check the time stamp | 20:56 |
| Khertan_n810 | RST38h ! hey great idea ! | 20:56 |
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| RST38h | If the time stamp is "stale", find the hung process, kill it, remove the lock file, go back to square #1 | 20:56 |
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| Khertan_n810 | thx for the tip RST38h | 20:57 |
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| svu | RST38h, no updated version of telepathy-haze found :( | 21:01 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps: don't think i will be attempting to install deblet for a while, the 6th install attempt works fine until the watchdog reboots the tablet :( (nothing running on it, i was leaving it unattended) :( | 21:16 |
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| ToyKeeper | Wow, fennec is really slow. | 21:35 |
| johnx | yes | 21:35 |
| ToyKeeper | I was looking for a way to make noscript work on my n810. I guess I didn't find an answer yet. :) | 21:36 |
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| Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: weird | 21:47 |
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| Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: so it reboots during install? O_o | 21:55 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps: yeah :D, it was configuring gconf and cpu = 100% | 21:56 |
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| johnx | maybe an out-of-memory thing? | 21:57 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: swap enabled or not? | 21:57 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps: swap enabled | 21:58 |
| Stskeeps | odd | 21:58 |
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| mikkov_ | is there a way to disable/enable home applets from command line? | 21:59 |
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| luck^ | X-Fade ping | 21:59 |
| qwerty12_N800 | mikkov_: hacking the hildon-desktop .conf files | 21:59 |
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| mikkov_ | anything more specific? I am trying to get applet to reload when upgrading | 22:00 |
| mikkov_ | python home applet if that matters | 22:01 |
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| mikkov_ | deleting .desktop and creating it again seems to work | 22:04 |
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| mikkov_ | or renaming to something else and back | 22:05 |
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| Pavlx | hello | 22:08 |
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| Pavlx | my nokia 770 has got a problem | 22:08 |
| Pavlx | the mory card remain out | 22:09 |
| Pavlx | so i must to press until memory enter | 22:09 |
| Pavlx | in the slot | 22:09 |
| Pavlx | at the same time says: that there is not any memory card inside | 22:10 |
| Pavlx | what i can do ? | 22:10 |
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| melmoth | Pavlx: sounds like a broken slot, or some dirt in it | 22:12 |
| Pavlx | does not close | 22:12 |
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| Pavlx | is not dirty | 22:13 |
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| MishaS | !seen X-Fade | 22:13 |
| MishaS | ~seen X-Fade | 22:14 |
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| infobot | x-fade is currently on #maemo (14m 22s), last said: 'murrayc: Probably later this day.'. | 22:14 |
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| GeneralAntilles | ohgod | 22:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | You guys seriously didn't just spawn a huge troll thread on -developers? | 22:16 |
| * MishaS wonders what thread is that... | 22:16 | |
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| qwerty12_N800 | GeneralAntilles: darius is a fucktard | 22:17 |
| XTL | The multitouch thread? | 22:17 |
| GeneralAntilles | qwerty12_N800, no shit. | 22:18 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yes, Darius's thread. | 22:18 |
| * jott wonders how much karma darius would have :) | 22:18 | |
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| jott | probably way above 100 ;) | 22:18 |
| XTL | Darius for president! | 22:18 |
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| Pavlx | so i must to stay one month wyhout pda | 22:20 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | I like the way he says others are trolling | 22:21 |
| Pavlx | and i don't know how i must to pay why is out of warranty | 22:21 |
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| Pavlx | i would ask you a think | 22:22 |
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| Pavlx | the 810 has got wimax, but work s too as wifi or not ? | 22:23 |
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| Pavlx | because here wimax there is not again in italy and if there is, is to payment | 22:24 |
| jott | Pavlx: only the n810 wimax edition has wimax, the normal does not have wimax support. | 22:24 |
| melmoth | the n810 does not do wimax | 22:24 |
| jott | but both support wifi | 22:24 |
| Pavlx | with 800 there is the wifi | 22:24 |
| melmoth | non c e molto wimax anche in francia ;-) | 22:24 |
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| Pavlx | if 810 has got too support for wi-fi is a good thing | 22:25 |
| jott | Pavlx: ^^.. | 22:25 |
| jott | all current its support wifi, and this will most likely not change in the next generations :) | 22:25 |
| jott | be it 770, n800, n810, n810wimax - all have wifi | 22:25 |
| GeneralAntilles | The N810W is probably gonna be tied pretty well to Sprint's network. | 22:26 |
| GeneralAntilles | Especially since I doubt the networks in Italy are 2.5GHz | 22:26 |
| Pavlx | i must again to buy the 800 | 22:26 |
| jott | yes, and the n810w will probably be useless for anybody outside of the sprint wimax coverage anyway. | 22:26 |
| Pavlx | aqnd the 810 | 22:26 |
| jott | Pavlx: the n810 (without W or Wimax) does not have wimax. | 22:26 |
| Pavlx | but are not very cheap | 22:27 |
| jott | they are more expensive than n800, right. | 22:27 |
| Pavlx | they costs a lot | 22:27 |
| __t | is Jamie Bennett here? | 22:30 |
| GeneralAntilles | No. | 22:31 |
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| jott | ~seen JamieBennett | 22:34 |
| infobot | jamiebennett <n=jamie@host217-34-38-3.in-addr.btopenworld.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 2d 5h 36m 15s ago, saying: 'GAN8001: I'm a little disappointed that more didn't put themselves forward :('. | 22:34 |
| Pavlx | how is expensive the nokia 800 ? | 22:35 |
| jott | it's more expensive in europe than in the states.. | 22:36 |
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| * GeneralAntilles is a sick puppy. | 22:55 | |
| GeneralAntilles | I'd have vnc going from the Beagle to provide a "display" if OS X's USBNet driver weren't so old and crappy. | 22:55 |
| qwerty12_N800 | can't be worse than ubuntu's :(. i swear they broke it in their subsequent kernel releases :( | 22:58 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | it's why i'm forced to use g_serial :/ | 22:59 |
| GeneralAntilles | I guess I need to go buy a USB network adaptor of some kind | 23:00 |
| GeneralAntilles | Not sure which to get, though. | 23:00 |
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| * RST38h would like to kill something | 23:02 | |
| mgedmin | try a small piece of paper | 23:03 |
| RST38h | mgedmin: something squishy! | 23:03 |
| mgedmin | how about a cone of ice cream? | 23:03 |
| GeneralAntilles | Kill an artichoke, rip its heart out and eat it! | 23:03 |
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| RST38h | preferably the guy who equipped this dev board with ethernet, wifi, 5 USB connectors, and an SD card slot but DID NOT install SSHD on it | 23:04 |
| RST38h | Yea, "I am a vegetarian not because I like animals but because I *hate* the plants" | 23:04 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Hehe | 23:05 |
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| RST38h | I hope they do not force me to boot off NFS | 23:05 |
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| Anunakin | Can anyone confirms if qt4 libs on devel-extras are corrupted? | 23:06 |
| Anunakin | http://qt4.garage.maemo.org/diablo.html | 23:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | Hi, dneary. | 23:06 |
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| jott | Anunakin: .. gnuton wanted to push an updated version by now. :( | 23:09 |
| Anunakin | gnuton? | 23:09 |
| dneary | hey ho | 23:09 |
| jott | hello dneary. | 23:09 |
| jott | Anunakin: the one who uploaded the maemo0 packages :) | 23:10 |
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| GeneralAntilles | So, dneary, what do you think about starting to delete some of the pages in the old wiki that collide with new stuff on mediawiki? | 23:11 |
| jott | Anunakin: packages are actually fine, just the package db is out of sync (or the other way around, how ever you view it) | 23:11 |
| dneary | GeneralAntilles: Collide how? | 23:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | Well, take the flashing articles | 23:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | They usually come up first in google searches | 23:11 |
| Pavlx | i found the nokia n800 it is possible that i buy it | 23:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | or the booting from MMC articles. | 23:11 |
| Pavlx | they ask few something 200 euro | 23:12 |
| GeneralAntilles | So people looking for that information tend to run into the old, outdated, inaccurate pages first. | 23:12 |
| Pavlx | new never used | 23:12 |
| dneary | I've been considering the old wiki 100% legacy now, and have been more or less ignoring it, beyond having the warning "this page is now useless and unmaintained - please see the new wiki (and move this page there & update it if you think it's still relevant) | 23:12 |
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| dneary | So we need to make the new wiki Google trawlable - is it right now? | 23:12 |
| GeneralAntilles | Problem is, google and other sources aren't also ignoring it. | 23:12 |
| VDVsx | Pavlx, the n810 is about 359 € now, brand new | 23:12 |
| RST38h | change the page background to olive green | 23:12 |
| Pavlx | or if any of you want to sell me a nokia n800 i am very happy | 23:13 |
| RST38h | That will make people stay away from the old pages =) | 23:13 |
| Pavlx | i speaked ok n800 | 23:13 |
| Pavlx | not n810 | 23:13 |
| VDVsx | Pavlx, ah ok, you want the n800 | 23:13 |
| Pavlx | yes, for 360 euro, is out of me | 23:14 |
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| Pavlx | very expensive now | 23:14 |
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| Pavlx | why we don't wait to buy, until to buy to these prices very high ? | 23:14 |
| GeneralAntilles | The new wiki is on the google results pages | 23:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | just not ranked as high. | 23:15 |
| VDVsx | Pavlx, try to buy a used one, I see a n800 for 150 € in a ebay like store two moths of use | 23:15 |
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| GeneralAntilles | But, really, the clearly redundant and problem solving stuff just needs to be deleted | 23:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | like the flashing articles | 23:16 |
| lardman | archived? | 23:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | s/solving/creating/ | 23:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | lardman, that doesn't stop google. | 23:16 |
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| Pavlx | yes, but if we don't buy the prices go down | 23:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | Take: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=flashing+maemo&btnG=Search | 23:16 |
| lardman | GeneralAntilles: true | 23:17 |
| GeneralAntilles | The good result is 5 items down. | 23:17 |
| GeneralAntilles | The crap results are right on top. | 23:17 |
| Anunakin | jott: ok! | 23:17 |
| VDVsx | Pavlx, lol | 23:17 |
| lardman | change those pages to point to the correct one with a big warning at the top, etc,? | 23:17 |
| GeneralAntilles | or http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=boot+from+sd+maemo&btnG=Search | 23:17 |
| GeneralAntilles | Just delete them | 23:18 |
| GeneralAntilles | there's nothing useful in them. | 23:18 |
| GeneralAntilles | Just less-clear and outdated flashing instructions. | 23:18 |
| lardman | yeah, fair enough, just a thought | 23:18 |
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| Pavlx | why nokia continue to use opera ? | 23:19 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | they dont | 23:19 |
| Pavlx | is dimostrated that minimo and others are better | 23:19 |
| Pavlx | on n800 and n810 | 23:20 |
| mikkov_ | maemo is using mozilla based browser | 23:20 |
| mikkov_ | opera is old stuff | 23:20 |
| Pavlx | but they install | 23:20 |
| mikkov_ | you can not use opera with latest OS version | 23:21 |
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| Pavlx | and then shared directories | 23:21 |
| Pavlx | that are hidden | 23:21 |
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| Pavlx | programs as flash | 23:22 |
| Pavlx | others to support mp3, wav, avi, wmv | 23:22 |
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| Pavlx | is easy to do a cross compile of ffmpeg2theora from the source code | 23:22 |
| Pavlx | and than exec on nokia | 23:23 |
| Pavlx | and to convert a movie is necessary to write ./ffmpeg2theora-version of theora and the name of movie with extension | 23:24 |
| Pavlx | to press enter and after times, you got a movie in *ogv (ogg video) | 23:25 |
| VDVsx | my login in maemo wiki is always expiring, if a login and then click on something the login expires in the moment, anyone experiencing that to ? | 23:25 |
| Pavlx | donìt ask me i never listened something of this type | 23:26 |
| Pavlx | is the first time i listen a similar problem | 23:26 |
| Pavlx | so VDsx, i can't help you | 23:27 |
| Pavlx | VDVsx | 23:27 |
| dneary | GeneralAntilles: You're probably right. | 23:27 |
| dneary | I've avoided working on anything midgard since the new wiki's there though | 23:27 |
| dneary | performance has just been so awful | 23:28 |
| dneary | It's been painful | 23:28 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yeah, it can probably wait until after the server upgrades | 23:29 |
| GeneralAntilles | Do you happen to have a Special:Allpages equivalent for the Midgard wiki handy, though? | 23:29 |
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| Pavlx | excuse me guys | 23:30 |
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| Pavlx | i say to you bye bye, i go to see a little of telly and i continue tomorrow | 23:30 |
| Pavlx | at the same time i would inform that in these dsys the GNU Project has done 25th years | 23:31 |
| Pavlx | i invite for a moment to see http://gnu.org | 23:31 |
| Pavlx | bye bye | 23:32 |
| Pavlx | paolo | 23:32 |
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| jott | GeneralAntilles: google inurl:http://maemo.org/community/wiki ? :) | 23:39 |
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| Italodance | Iron.Man.DVDRip.XviD.INTERNAL-BeStDivX | 23:49 |
| Italodance | immmmm | 23:49 |
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| Stskeeps | Italodance: not sure how's that relevant to tablets or maemo .. :P | 23:57 |
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| jott | it's not a deblet but a warezlet :) | 23:59 |
| GeneralAntilles | jott, does that give me a list of all pages on the midgard wiki? | 23:59 |
| jott | GeneralAntilles: i think it should give you all those indexed by google. | 23:59 |
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