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| Jaffa | Oh noes: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=185755#post185755 | 00:24 |
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| GAN8001 | It never ends, Jaffa. | 00:25 |
| KotCzarny | maybe i should finally creaty my repo too..? | 00:25 |
| blafasel | What exactly was the problem with a final repository again? | 00:28 |
| KotCzarny | incompatible packages | 00:28 |
| blafasel | The missing infrastructure? Acceptance? | 00:28 |
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| KotCzarny | ie. multiple versions of the same app | 00:28 |
| KotCzarny | or lib | 00:28 |
| Jaffa | blafasel: "final"? | 00:28 |
| blafasel | Jaffa: Uhm. | 00:29 |
| blafasel | Jaffa: My brain and my fingers didn't agree on a word there. central would fit what I meant. | 00:29 |
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| Jaffa | Ah, I see. | 00:29 |
| Jaffa | Well, we've got two: extras & extras-devel. The short reason people set up their own is one of two possible answers: they're lazy, and it's easier to create their own and screw potential users, 2) they don't know about it. | 00:30 |
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| * Jaffa isn't aware of any valid reasons at the moment to not use the central repos (would appreciate knowing if there are, but things like download stats or beta quality have previously been raised which both have been addressed) | 00:31 | |
| KotCzarny | or both | 00:31 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 00:31 |
| timely | Jaffa: effort required to post to someone else's repo | 00:31 |
| Jaffa | KotCzarny: true :-) | 00:31 |
| KotCzarny | but laziness isn't the only reason | 00:32 |
| Jaffa | timely: ah, that's true. Although integrating dput/scp into a build system or running it in and of itself isn't /that/ much harder. | 00:32 |
| KotCzarny | to have package accepted you have to fullfil many reqs | 00:32 |
| Jaffa | One of the reasons I suggested polling stuff. | 00:32 |
| KotCzarny | like proper changelog etc | 00:32 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 00:32 |
| KotCzarny | otoh it's good | 00:33 |
| Jaffa | KotCzarny: there's no QA on extras(-devel) ATM, and besides - poor changelog => screwing users again | 00:33 |
| KotCzarny | because if someone puts enough effort to put a package on extras he/she will be knowledgeable enough to make a quality stuff | 00:33 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 00:33 |
| KotCzarny | and we have a reason to put off unauthorized repos with: 'what? some weird repo? remove it! and don't ask again' | 00:34 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 00:34 |
| crashanddie | btw | 00:36 |
| crashanddie | after... almost 6 months of developing on the IT | 00:36 |
| crashanddie | I must say, i'd love to do this for a living | 00:36 |
| crashanddie | I mean, as in work in the mobile-embedded-software-world | 00:36 |
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| KotCzarny | :) | 00:37 |
| KotCzarny | now try this with s60 sdk | 00:37 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 00:37 |
| * Jaffa wanted to join the Pervasive Computing dept at IBM Hursley as a graduate but ended up in a different dept on a different path. Nice to have it as a hobby, but free access to gadgets and doing cool stuff which impacts the real world might still be fun | 00:37 | |
| ssvb | lardman: hmm, N8x0 can map 2MB of memory between ARM and DSP just fine | 00:37 |
| crashanddie | No one would know if Nokia's opening a branch in Cardiff ? (or other part of UK != London) | 00:38 |
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| Jaffa | Nokia have a big, big office on the edge of Farnborough | 00:40 |
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| ssvb | crashanddie: if you don't mind moving to Finland, you may want to check current open positions here: http://www.nokia.com/A4126298 | 00:42 |
| crashanddie | ssvb, my Finish is pretty sketchy, and I'd rather move to the UK frankly | 00:43 |
| blafasel | KotCzarny: Never mention the S60 again.. | 00:43 |
| flo_lap | hehe, I tried the S60 SDK some weeks ago | 00:43 |
| KotCzarny | :> | 00:43 |
| flo_lap | I knew C++ is scary, but even the simplest S60 application scared me away ;) | 00:44 |
| lcuk | that sounds like my experience when i moved from amiga to windows | 00:44 |
| ssvb | crashanddie: one can live quite fine with speaking only English in Helsinki | 00:44 |
| lcuk | ssvb: english english English, english english? | 00:45 |
| blafasel | I'm going to repeat myself here, but I still don't get it: Confronted with worse-than-S40 bluetooth support the Nokia _technical_ support hotline said (quoted, as good as I can in english, call was in german): | 00:45 |
| ssvb | lcuk: have no idea, I'm not a native speaker... | 00:45 |
| crashanddie | lcuk, ENGLISH en glish ! | 00:45 |
| ssvb | lcuk: but I think you got the idea :) | 00:46 |
| blafasel | "Of course S40 phones are older and more stable" to which I responded with "Are you saying that S60 phones are less stable than S40 ones?": "No, I didn't state that. But if you do want to have a phone that does _everything_ it just HAS to have some limitations and problems" | 00:46 |
| KotCzarny | :> | 00:46 |
| Jaffa | blafasel: good grief | 00:46 |
| KotCzarny | now we know why n8x0 doesn't have a gsm! | 00:47 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 00:47 |
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| blafasel | At that point I couldn't stop laughing and the guy redirected me to an automated "How happy are you with the Nokia support call that you just made" system.. | 00:47 |
| KotCzarny | though it still has it's problems | 00:47 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 00:47 |
| blafasel | Well, I traded the Nokia phone for a Sony-Ericsson last thursday and it's just great. Well.. Nevermind my rant, but S60 is currently a topic that I just can't resist to comment on. | 00:48 |
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| lardman|tv | ssvb: but 770 can't map it? | 00:59 |
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| ssvb | lardman|tv: have not tried it, I switched to N810 for the last few hours | 01:01 |
| lardman|tv | ssvb: Glad to hear the theory translates into practice for the N8x0 at least then :) | 01:01 |
| ssvb | lardman|tv: it would be nice to have this information about 'dsp_dld -p' added to the dspprogramming wiki page | 01:02 |
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| TPC | hello, I'm trying to install scratchbox and I got it all installed, but when I try to compile something I get "ERROR: Scratchbox is not properly set up!" | 01:04 |
| TPC | what could be wrong? | 01:04 |
| ssvb | lardman|tv: one of the problem with getting started with DSP programming is that there is too much extra information (at least for the start) and some important bits are still missing... | 01:04 |
| lardman|tv | ssvb: I'll try to do it tomorrow assuming I remember ;) | 01:04 |
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| lardman|tv | ssvb: yes, the page probably needs streamlining; I'd be interested to hear your comments (in an email perhaps) and I'll see what can be done to clarify & extend the wiki page | 01:05 |
| lardman|tv | I should link to the example code that I sent to the list for example | 01:05 |
| ssvb | lardman|tv: maybe we need to repackage dspgateway and have some kind of easy installation script | 01:06 |
| lardman|tv | ssvb: dspgateway or the toolchain? | 01:06 |
| ssvb | lardman|tv: dspgateway | 01:06 |
| ssvb | lardman|tv: but the installation script should check if the toolchain is properly installed | 01:07 |
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| lardman|tv | dspgateway isn't really needed though, except for the headers | 01:09 |
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| ssvb | lardman|tv: I mean that dspgateway package is does not directly target internet tablet devices, not all the examples work out of the box (at least that was my impression) | 01:09 |
| lardman|tv | ah yes, that's quite true | 01:10 |
| lardman|tv | but it's not directed at the internet tablets alone, all of the omap dev boards use it | 01:10 |
| lardman|tv | it seemed to me that it was aimed more at them | 01:10 |
| lardman|tv | I did offer to add some extra explanation to the dspgateway docs, but didn't hear anything back | 01:11 |
| ssvb | lardman|tv: that's the point, strip all the unnecessary stuff from it, have some standard installation directories (in /opt for example), add easy installation script that would check all the prerequisites (ti toolchain) | 01:11 |
| lardman|tv | yep | 01:11 |
| lardman|tv | Better docs would be useful too -> more info & explanation in the wiki page | 01:12 |
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| beford | Hello. I'm trying to install midori on os2008. I'm using packages from http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-18488.html but I can't install webkit package. It requires libicu38 and and libxslt1.1. I tried to use install files from http://repository.maemo.org/extras/dists/chinook/install/ but when I open them with application manager, it shows an error "unable to download libxslt1.1 . Application package not found". | 01:31 |
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| Jaffa | beford: get root access and then do apt-get install libxslt1.1 libicu38 from X Terminal | 01:45 |
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| GAN800 | I'd forgotten how useful thumb-activation of the thumb keyboard was after so long on Chinook. | 01:53 |
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| kkrusty | I started setting up maemo development on a machine some weeks ago and now Im not sure how far I went through. Can anyone tell me how I can confirm that ive installed the maemo SDK? | 02:26 |
| Grackle_ | sblogin or sb-login, I forget | 02:29 |
| Grackle_ | or if you don't have a target yet, you can set one up with sb-menu | 02:29 |
| Grackle_ | I stand firmly by the maemo sdk vmware appliance. http://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/ | 02:30 |
| kkrusty | hmmm seems that I have scratchbox installed. Im trying to compile the sample program | 02:30 |
| Grackle_ | If you can run virtual machines quickly (like, if your processor supports virtualization), you can't beat it. | 02:30 |
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| kkrusty | it cant find my source files | 02:31 |
| Jaffa | MaemoSDK+ (sbox2 based) is another option | 02:32 |
| kkrusty | runs in windows too? | 02:33 |
| Jaffa | The VMware image does on the free (beer) VMware Player | 02:33 |
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| KotCzarny | free, but not open? | 02:34 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:34 |
| KotCzarny | so you can't tell it's really free | 02:34 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:34 |
| KotCzarny | (hidden fees) | 02:34 |
| KotCzarny | (: | 02:34 |
| kkrusty | where do I put source files for scratchbox to find it? | 02:34 |
| beford | /scratchbox/users/<youruser>/home/<youruser> ? | 02:35 |
| KotCzarny | or just cf | 02:35 |
| KotCzarny | cd | 02:35 |
| KotCzarny | and wget | 02:35 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:35 |
| pupnik | symlink the sb user subdir to something under your home dir | 02:36 |
| pupnik | makes it easier to xfer fils | 02:36 |
| KotCzarny | symlinks rule | 02:36 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:36 |
| kkrusty | so you recommend a vm instead? | 02:37 |
| beford | Jaffa, thanks, i'm installing them through ssh. | 02:37 |
| pupnik | a vm will save you some setup time | 02:38 |
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| kkrusty | I have this idea of having an application that would synthesise a tone depending on signal strength | 02:39 |
| kkrusty | is that sane? | 02:39 |
| pupnik | what signal | 02:39 |
| KotCzarny | noisy | 02:39 |
| KotCzarny | and irritating for others | 02:39 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:39 |
| pupnik | all the wlans | 02:39 |
| kkrusty | KotCzarny: yeah its not supposed to be practical | 02:40 |
| kkrusty | pupnik: yep | 02:40 |
| pupnik | think | 02:40 |
| kkrusty | pupnik: Im fairly certain that Im making a fool out of myself but I guess that this keeps me motivated enough to at least learn maemo and hopefully develop something more useful | 02:41 |
| pupnik | it's possible | 02:42 |
| pupnik | you can do it in a couple evenings hacking kismet client | 02:42 |
| pupnik | but think, how will you represent the signal strength of multiple wlans at once... | 02:42 |
| KotCzarny | dyschordia | 02:43 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:43 |
| lcuk | different notes | 02:43 |
| lcuk | each node is a piano key | 02:43 |
| KotCzarny | depending on freq | 02:43 |
| KotCzarny | but what about diff essids? | 02:43 |
| pupnik | right, so you have 13 or so bands of freqs, at varying volumes | 02:43 |
| lcuk | gawd i didnt wanna think about audio yet. thats later | 02:43 |
| pupnik | oh yeah | 02:43 |
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| lcuk | world please stop, ive got too much to think about and 24 hours to do it in ;) | 02:44 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:44 |
| kkrusty | pupnik: what about being able to specify just one of all the combinations? | 02:44 |
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| KotCzarny | lcuk, it's only possible if you cut from information inputs | 02:44 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:45 |
| lcuk | why not do a full drumkit/one man band, you can assign fart noises and stuff to specific ssids | 02:45 |
| pupnik | nice to meet you kkrusty -- it's great to see ppl interested in making stuff | 02:45 |
| KotCzarny | well | 02:45 |
| pupnik | always happy to see that | 02:45 |
| KotCzarny | even better | 02:45 |
| KotCzarny | speach synth | 02:45 |
| KotCzarny | saying essids | 02:45 |
| pupnik | like kismet does | 02:45 |
| KotCzarny | with vol = sig str | 02:45 |
| pupnik | i have done warwalking with kismet | 02:46 |
| KotCzarny | and with freq = freq | 02:46 |
| pupnik | like you care about that | 02:46 |
| pupnik | if you find an open wlan, kismet makes a special beep | 02:46 |
| KotCzarny | could be fun for channel hoppers | 02:46 |
| pupnik | then you pull the tablet out of pocket | 02:46 |
| pupnik | and look at it | 02:46 |
| pupnik | ahn | 02:46 |
| lcuk | and when they are all close and surrounding you the noise changes to "run away" | 02:46 |
| pupnik | i'm just going to drop my dsl i think | 02:47 |
| lcuk | pupnik, i was gonna do bluetooth pinging and location with 810 for linuxtag | 02:47 |
| pupnik | coooool | 02:47 |
| lcuk | note the was :| | 02:47 |
| * lcuk laffs | 02:47 | |
| KotCzarny | still good idea for future | 02:47 |
| KotCzarny | so :) | 02:48 |
| lcuk | they all are, i really like what im doing even though theres no end product yet | 02:48 |
| pupnik | lcuk: it's going to be us, and a few random passerby | 02:48 |
| pupnik | show what you know... i'll enjoy it | 02:48 |
| lcuk | we have an entire linux conference to sneak around | 02:48 |
| lcuk | it would be great coupling a mesh toghether using a mix of known fixed location scanning nodes (like doorways) and mobile units. you could gather signal strengths from all nodes and produce a reasonably accurate map via transgulation | 02:50 |
| lcuk | -typos | 02:50 |
| lcuk | in the quick test i did it takes about 10 seconds per ping to obtain a full list of all surrounding devices with strength. | 02:51 |
| lcuk | but with devices starting from different times the map could evolve as new information comes in | 02:51 |
| lcuk | i would love a second device to exapnd on this | 02:52 |
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| pupnik | will the projector have hdmi input? | 02:55 |
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| pupnik | if so i can make a camera + box that will let us demo stuff live | 02:55 |
| zpol | re | 02:56 |
| lcuk | heh | 02:56 |
| lcuk | GREAT VALUE - UNLOCKED Nokia N800 PDA & Internet Tablet | 02:56 |
| lcuk | 02:56 | |
| pupnik | would need to install synergy and usb networking | 02:56 |
| pupnik | if that guy is in germany i'll beat him over the head with a large stick | 02:56 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:56 |
| KotCzarny | internet pda? | 02:57 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 02:57 |
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| lcuk | i like the way its UNLOCKED | 02:57 |
| zpol | how use the libgtkmozembed+ python ? | 02:57 |
| zpol | import gtkmozembed | 02:57 |
| zpol | module not found :( | 02:58 |
| KotCzarny | yeah | 02:58 |
| KotCzarny | observe that all false words are CAPITALIZED | 02:58 |
| KotCzarny | 'great' and 'value' too | 02:58 |
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| pupnik | i should sell tablets with 'extra' 'unlocked' software | 03:05 |
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| KotCzarny | how about NEW ? | 03:05 |
| lcuk | actualyl, it could have maps paid for and unlocked | 03:06 |
| KotCzarny | darn | 03:06 |
| lcuk | but nahhh, its just some ebay head | 03:06 |
| KotCzarny | it could even have HACKED firmware.. | 03:07 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 03:07 |
| lcuk | oh god no, not hackers | 03:07 |
| KotCzarny | yeah.. | 03:07 |
| lcuk | the next thing, you will be tellin me they installed linux on it | 03:08 |
| KotCzarny | linux? teh terrorist! | 03:08 |
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| kkrusty | I was thinking that LibConIC would be sufficient to get signal strength values for all wlans | 03:19 |
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| fireun | huston - the phoenix has landed | 03:21 |
| n800m | wee | 03:21 |
| fireun | always good news to hear | 03:22 |
| fireun | 420$ to good use | 03:22 |
| fireun | million | 03:22 |
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| kkrusty | kismet will work in scratchbox? | 03:27 |
| fireun | the real question is if it will work on mars...? | 03:28 |
| fireun | I cant imagine it working in scratchbox, but I'm not the expert here | 03:28 |
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| kkrusty | so how would you imagine someone to modify kismet? | 03:29 |
| kkrusty | for n800 | 03:30 |
| fireun | build it and test in system? | 03:30 |
| lcuk | with that secret stuff called source code | 03:30 |
| kkrusty | system, which system? scratchbox or on the n800? | 03:30 |
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| fireun | or build for your dev box then do final cross compiling and debug in system | 03:30 |
| practisevoodoo_ | i've given up on kismet on the n810 for the moment, wrote a python script to get lan/long from the gps and log it with the results from iwlist | 03:30 |
| fireun | sorry, debug in targe (the n800) | 03:31 |
| kkrusty | fireun: that makes sense. Is kismet working on the n800? At least to the level that I need | 03:32 |
| kkrusty | fireun: Im just interested in signal strengths | 03:32 |
| lcuk | meh, build on the device itself | 03:32 |
| kkrusty | practisevoodoo_: That was one of the ideas that I had. python + iwlist but Im guessing it must be slow | 03:33 |
| practisevoodoo_ | not really | 03:33 |
| practisevoodoo_ | i only have it scan every 20 seconds | 03:33 |
| practisevoodoo_ | you have to run it as root to get iwlist working correctly, i'll chuck it on pastebin | 03:34 |
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| fireun | kkrusty: dunno, works on my 770 (: | 03:35 |
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| practisevoodoo_ | i know it works on the 770 but the n810 definately has it lock up | 03:37 |
| practisevoodoo_ | http://pastebin.com/m3b10688d | 03:37 |
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| Dennis | Is this a proper forum for a question on a hardware issue? | 03:39 |
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| lcuk | a big w00t to JLP flight team | 03:50 |
| * fireun poors one for phoenix | 03:51 | |
| unixSnob | jlp? don't you mean jpl? | 03:51 |
| unixSnob | btw, what did they do? | 03:51 |
| lcuk | PMSL! ive been making typos all night, but thats more likely because of muscle memory | 03:51 |
| lcuk | yes, i meant jpl | 03:51 |
| lcuk | (though jlp are one of my customers at work) | 03:52 |
| unixSnob | I used to work for those guys.. I'd like to get back there some day | 03:52 |
| Dennis | did it survive the 7 | 03:53 |
| Dennis | was that today? | 03:53 |
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| fireun | mars phoenix lander made it | 03:53 |
| fireun | waiting for first pictures | 03:54 |
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| unixSnob | nice. Wonder if they've gotten on the ball and started using Ada | 03:56 |
| fireun | prolog | 03:57 |
| Dennis | Would anyone have any suggestions for SD slots not working on a N800. I formatted 2 SD cards (Kingston and SanDisk) in FAT16 and FAT32 filesystems. I also flashed the N800 in 2007 and 2008 OS's. Neither OS or format would let the N800 recognize the SD card (512MB and 1GB sizes). I tried internal and external slots. | 03:57 |
| fireun | Dennis: but something smaller does work? | 03:58 |
| Dennis | I have had nothing working in the SD slots. | 03:58 |
| lcuk | dennis, for the price of new ones just try if a new one will work | 03:59 |
| practisevoodoo | i had to restart my n810 with the card in it the first time that i wanted it to work | 03:59 |
| fireun | lcuk: thats what I was trying to confirm, if he's had anything work in the slots, not just the big memory | 03:59 |
| lcuk | restart==battery out after turnoff | 03:59 |
| Dennis | I've tried restarts with the card in the slots. no recognition | 03:59 |
| Dennis | ill try the battery out.. should it be out for any time period? | 04:00 |
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| Dennis | the cards are reconzied in a camera, card reader and laptop SD slot | 04:01 |
| Dennis | I even let the camera format the cards | 04:01 |
| fireun | you got the extended warranty at circuit city, right? | 04:02 |
| Dennis | LOL.. | 04:02 |
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| unixSnob | the problem is w/ your device | 04:04 |
| * fireun thinks he said that, not in so many words but.... | 04:04 | |
| Dennis | I thought so. I just read of some problems with SD cards after flashing to 2008. I ruled a software issue out by attempting to read the cards after a 2007 downgrade | 04:05 |
| Dennis | its hardware... :( | 04:05 |
| Dennis | I just wanted someone else to tell me before I believed it. | 04:08 |
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| Dennis | Thanks.. | 04:09 |
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| fireun | ... and if the lander had been running maemo... | 04:23 |
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| KotCzarny | ..then watchdog would kill it | 04:28 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 04:28 |
| KotCzarny | watchdog kills | 04:28 |
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| n800m | live, from Wikipedia headquarters! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Trotta | 04:47 |
| n800m | page changes every few seconds | 04:47 |
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| beford | pwnt | 04:57 |
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| oilinki | n800m: you mean that the people who watch Fox news can also read and write? | 05:04 |
| n800m | you wouldn't think that by some of the edits | 05:05 |
| n800m | the clip is a fake. if you listen she says, "well, twoath if we could." now, "twoath" is obviously not a word. nor do people speak with splice marks, such as the one that is easily audible at the beginning of the word. further, you can clearly see her lips run afoul when the word is spoken. play this specific part a few times and listen closely. it quickly becomes obvious it is a fake. | 05:05 |
| n800m | that's the best one i caught | 05:06 |
| n800m | live | 05:06 |
| n800m | last update was october last year | 05:07 |
| n800m | misfire | 05:07 |
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| unixSnob | anyone with a cradlepoint router try the GPS features? I notice they just added them to the firmware at the end of march | 05:36 |
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| unixSnob | vry cool.. instead of getting gps coords over bluetooth, they're sent from port 8889 on the network -- which eliminates the need for n800 users to carry a bt-gps device | 05:39 |
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| * unixSnob wonders if the gps library is keen to this | 05:40 | |
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| n800m | so there was a lot of talk about dsp here lately, is any related to music making apps? | 06:00 |
| fireun | no, just playing | 06:03 |
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| unixSnob | fireun: I couldn't find info on JPL using prolog. I've seen references to "JPL" in the context of Java to ProLog interface, but that's nothing to do with Jet Propulsion Laboratory | 06:16 |
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| fireun | I smell sulfur | 06:17 |
| summatusmentis | I smell fear | 06:18 |
| summatusmentis | or... something >_> | 06:18 |
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| Mikho | I smell my morning coffee! | 06:31 |
| KotCzarny | mourning coffee | 06:32 |
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| summatusmentis | I've been mourning coffee recently | 06:32 |
| summatusmentis | I stopped drinking it at school, and now when I do it makes me jittery | 06:33 |
| elb | if a reasonable amount of coffee makes you jittery, that's truly something to mourn | 06:33 |
| elb | because either you're hyper-sensitive to caffeine, or you're drinking really crappy coffee | 06:34 |
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| summatusmentis | really crappy coffee is possible | 06:34 |
| summatusmentis | I shouldn't be hyper-sensitive to caffeine, pop doesn't have the same affect | 06:35 |
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| summatusmentis | also, jittery may not be the correct term... more fidgety I guess | 06:35 |
| elb | a cup of coffee has about twice the caffeine as a can of a typical caffeinated soda | 06:35 |
| elb | (some are more, some are less) | 06:35 |
| elb | for high-quality coffee, that is | 06:36 |
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| summatusmentis | this was 'seattle's best' | 06:36 |
| summatusmentis | no idea the quality of it | 06:37 |
| fireun | I find lattes the best in the morning, the fat in the low-fat milk slows the caffeine and sugar uptake over a gentler slope, so I dont get the spike of jolt, and then jitters | 06:37 |
| summatusmentis | don't drink milk, if i don't have to | 06:38 |
| summatusmentis | but I could see why that might be nicer | 06:38 |
| summatusmentis | also, more expensive :) | 06:39 |
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| timely | hello world | 07:08 |
| timely | Jaffa ... | 07:08 |
| timely | could you guys bug people w/ planet maemo blogs to enable their first+last names to appear? | 07:08 |
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| mconnor | hey, is there an easy way to remap Chr to alt? | 07:18 |
| mconnor | or really, any way? | 07:18 |
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| forge | There's always a way | 07:28 |
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| mysc | is there an easy way to "wake up" a n8x0 from an ssh conneciton? echo "50" >> /sys/devices/platform/omapfb/panel/backlight_level works for a second when dim, and not at all when off. something must be re-writing this value. | 08:24 |
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| cactuar | Hi.... I was wondering if someone could help me with this gizmo problem. There's no sound being transferred, from or to me and the client, but all of the other sounds on Gizmo or the N800 work fine (ringing, music, other stuff). I've looked on the forums and have tried moving the volume up and down, didn't work. And uninstalled ogg-support. That didn't help either. Anyone here have any experience with that? | 08:32 |
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| cactuar | I know it worked once when the install was clean, but I was wondering if anyone has an idea on what specific programs could be causing the problem. | 08:34 |
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| Khertan_TheReal | Hi ! | 09:37 |
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| Khertan_TheReal | is there someone here now how to fix problem with pdflush ? | 09:40 |
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| Khertan_TheReal | s/now/know | 09:43 |
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| X-Fade | Morning | 10:13 |
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| trickie | morning | 10:18 |
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| keesj | hi | 10:20 |
| X-Fade | Is there anybody that would like a free 4day pass for LinuxTag? It seems I have some left. | 10:21 |
| keesj | yep | 10:22 |
| X-Fade | keesj: You? | 10:22 |
| keesj | Me | 10:22 |
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| trickie | i got one from lardman, so im cool :) | 10:25 |
| X-Fade | Hmm that site is veeeery slow atm. | 10:27 |
| keesj | are you using brute force? | 10:28 |
| X-Fade | Hehe, just trying to login ;) | 10:28 |
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| Khertan_TheReal | Morning | 10:38 |
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| mysc | anyone know a quick way to wake up my tab from ssh? an echo to backlight_level works for a milisecond. can i trick it by sending a fake event? | 10:39 |
| Khertan_TheReal | i ve some problem with my n810, pdflush eat all cpu and now it s reboot for more than 3hours ... | 10:39 |
| Khertan_TheReal | i ve flashed it ... but problem reappears 2 days after | 10:39 |
| Khertan_TheReal | without installing anything nor using it ... | 10:39 |
| Khertan_TheReal | i ve leave it two day on it charger after the flash ... | 10:40 |
| Khertan_TheReal | can it be a internal memory problem ? | 10:40 |
| Khertan_TheReal | (reboot isn't finished ... :( ) | 10:40 |
| mysc | assuming you're flashing correctly sounds like a defective machine | 10:41 |
| Khertan_TheReal | arg :( | 10:42 |
| Khertan_TheReal | i ve see in bugzilla that some people think it could came from the rss reader ... | 10:42 |
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| Khertan_TheReal | does the default configuration make sync frequently ? | 10:43 |
| Khertan_TheReal | the first time i get this problem my / have no more free space | 10:43 |
| Khertan_TheReal | but since i ve make free place i ve still the same problem | 10:44 |
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| Khertan_TheReal | (a flash make enough place :) ) | 10:44 |
| Khertan_TheReal | so i ll contact nokia care ... | 10:44 |
| keesj | So what are we going to do at linuxtag? | 10:45 |
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| Khertan_TheReal | does it send you a refurbished device ? as i would be not happy to have a someone else device with scratch on screen ! (as mine don't have any) | 10:45 |
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| trickie | keesj: maybe i suggest that after the last maemo session (18:00 on thurs i think) we should have an informal maemo meetup | 10:49 |
| trickie | and maybe some demo's of stuff people bring | 10:49 |
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| keesj | I think it would be good to do something easy and visible | 10:53 |
| keesj | perhaps looks at documentation on the website or similar | 10:53 |
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| trickie | doc sprint ? | 10:54 |
| keesj | doesn't sound fun right? | 10:54 |
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| keesj | trickie: how is the qemu/mamona thing going? | 10:57 |
| pupnik | visible? how about a group interpretative dance | 10:57 |
| trickie | well it could be informal... as in we see how much 'work' people feel up to, but it might be good to get further on the wiki migration | 10:57 |
| keesj | pupnik: hamsterdance? | 10:57 |
| pupnik | trickie: you work on mamona? | 10:57 |
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| trickie | keesj: well it boots ok with the maemo kernel, but when e starts it locks up after a while, no luck with current omap kernel | 10:58 |
| trickie | pupnik: yeah, mainly experiemeting, but i wanna get full emulation under qemu working for the SDK | 10:58 |
| pupnik | nice | 10:58 |
| trickie | pupnik: also been playing with mamona and recent omap kernels | 10:58 |
| trickie | starting to fall in love with efl | 10:59 |
| pupnik | i'd be interested to see mamona on the pandora | 10:59 |
| * trickie wonders why he didn't explore efl earlier | 10:59 | |
| pupnik | what is efl? | 10:59 |
| trickie | pupnik: enlightenment foundation libs | 11:00 |
| trickie | core libs for e | 11:00 |
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| trickie | main GUI toolkit for mamona ATM | 11:00 |
| pupnik | um. but. hildon | 11:00 |
| pupnik | can you run hildon apps on mamona? | 11:00 |
| mysc | who makes the pandora? | 11:00 |
| pupnik | mweston and a few other guys | 11:01 |
| trickie | well unfortunately i have to start doing the boring work day, so let me know if you think i should draft an email about what to do after the maemo sessions | 11:01 |
| keesj | pupnik: there where hildon libs in mamona but it doesn't look like they will be more the just avaiable atm | 11:02 |
| pupnik | ok. well i can't do work outside of what i've been working on latetly - would be useless | 11:02 |
| pupnik | ok | 11:02 |
| mysc | when is the expected release date? | 11:03 |
| pupnik | they were shooting for april/may. dev units are out | 11:04 |
| keesj | wow | 11:04 |
| pupnik | TI sort of took them under their wing | 11:05 |
| keesj | how great new | 11:06 |
| pupnik | looks like it'll be released without much of a real OS. just a program launcher for the emus | 11:06 |
| sp3000 | an emu cannon if you will | 11:07 |
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| hrw | morning | 11:07 |
| mysc | is there an n900 in our near future:? | 11:09 |
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| keesj | pupnik: are you in the pandora "loop" ?? | 11:11 |
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| hrw | mysc: who knows.. | 11:14 |
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| mysc | i am sure many know | 11:15 |
| hrw | mysc: nokia guys cant tell, those who cooperate with nokia also cannot tell | 11:15 |
| X-Fade | hrw: Exactly ;) | 11:15 |
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| jldiaz | hi | 11:16 |
| qwerty12 | hi | 11:16 |
| jldiaz | I'm playing with gstmjpg | 11:16 |
| jldiaz | the webcam server | 11:16 |
| hrw | mysc: we can only hope that there will be some and if there will be something after n810wme then that it will be worth upgrading | 11:17 |
| jldiaz | I've noticed that the streamer server allows the fps to be specifyed from command line | 11:17 |
| jldiaz | anyone knows how could I specify the fps from the dbus message which cg-bin script sends? | 11:18 |
| jldiaz | (anyone knows what I'm talking about, in first place? :-)) | 11:18 |
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| qwerty12 | Well, I know what DBUS is (having done very very tiny things with it) and I'd be surprised if someone doesn't know about cgi. | 11:19 |
| jldiaz | I mean, do you installed/used gstmjpg? | 11:20 |
| mysc | ok, maybe one of you knows. i want to "wake up" from dimmed screen over ssh. if i echo to backlight_level it gets reset, presumably by the event daemon. | 11:20 |
| mysc | how can i turn it on from ssh cli? | 11:20 |
| qwerty12 | jldiaz, Heard of it, haven't got around to using it. So you can specify fps off gstmjpg cmd line? | 11:21 |
| jldiaz | yes | 11:21 |
| hrw | mysc: in normal device I would go to /sys/class/backlight/*/ but n8x0 iirc do not use it | 11:21 |
| jldiaz | gstmpjg -f N | 11:21 |
| jldiaz | mysc , probably sending a dbus-message, hold on a minute | 11:21 |
| mysc | ah, yes, sending an event would do the trick. would love to hear how | 11:22 |
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| jldiaz | hm... no, I don't have the example as i though | 11:23 |
| jldiaz | I did it through osso | 11:23 |
| qwerty12 | If you have fanoush's kernel, just run blset. | 11:23 |
| trickie | mysc: checkout the source for http://powerlaunch.garage.maemo.org/ | 11:23 |
| mysc | i have maemo kernel | 11:23 |
| trickie | mysc: is you wanna do it via dbus | 11:23 |
| jldiaz | mysc, would be ok to use a little python script? | 11:23 |
| trickie | and osso stuff | 11:23 |
| mysc | well, i can probalby bashify or perlify the python. thanks trickie | 11:24 |
| mysc | so a python script to reverse engineer would be great | 11:24 |
| trickie | mysc: of course, but it show some osso dbus calls to do it | 11:24 |
| jldiaz | perlify could be possible. I'm not sure about bashify, because it loads shared libraries | 11:24 |
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| jldiaz | import osso | 11:25 |
| jldiaz | osso_c=osso.Context("wiicontrol", "0.0.8", False) | 11:25 |
| jldiaz | device=osso.DeviceState(osso_c) | 11:25 |
| jldiaz | device.display_state_on() | 11:25 |
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| jldiaz | the "wiicontrol" string has to be replaced | 11:25 |
| jldiaz | i copy&pasted from wiicontrol.py | 11:26 |
| qwerty12 | jldiaz, Look into /usr/share/dbus-1/services/gstmjpg.service. fps and command line is specified there. | 11:26 |
| jldiaz | qwerty12 thanks! | 11:26 |
| mysc | hrmmm, thanks! | 11:26 |
| qwerty12 | jldiaz, np :) | 11:26 |
| jldiaz | Offtopic: anyone uses screen here? | 11:27 |
| qwerty12 | Also /usr/cgi-bin/mjpgplay.cgi has an fps string. | 11:28 |
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| mysc | i use screen | 11:28 |
| jldiaz | qwerty12 I think that that script is for playing stored movies | 11:28 |
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| qwerty12 | Ah, ok. I just assume you want them played back in same fps as recorded :) | 11:29 |
| Khertan_TheReal | re | 11:29 |
| jldiaz | but the service is probably what I was looking for | 11:29 |
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| jldiaz | I want to test if reduced fps leads to reduced CPU usage | 11:29 |
| Khertan_TheReal | huhu ... without battery and charger the screen still display the nokia boot logo after 30s ! | 11:29 |
| mysc | what does "osso" stand for? | 11:31 |
| qwerty12 | # | 11:32 |
| qwerty12 | OSSO means "Open Source Software Operations". It's a department inside Nokia. | 11:32 |
| mysc | what about the osso in libosso? :) | 11:32 |
| qwerty12 | Probably same thing, who knows with nokia :p | 11:33 |
| jldiaz | most of applications for maemo developed by nokia have the "osso" string embedded | 11:33 |
| mysc | ah, so it's like their trademark for their development team | 11:33 |
| jldiaz | not sure, but this is what I understand when seeing osso :-) | 11:34 |
| mysc | hah :) | 11:34 |
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| mysc | i need to fix this dimming thing, i often idle on irc and hate having to tap | 11:35 |
| qwerty12 | mysc, Grab moredimmingoptions and set timeout to 24h :/ | 11:35 |
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| jldiaz | or disable diming at control panel | 11:36 |
| qwerty12 | Thats only for the charger | 11:36 |
| jldiaz | qwerty12 it worked! I set the fps to 2 | 11:36 |
| qwerty12 | Great :) | 11:36 |
| jldiaz | the cpu usage dropped from 52% to 15% | 11:37 |
| jldiaz | (using top, which is not reliable, but anyway) | 11:37 |
| qwerty12 | w00t, that is a lot better | 11:37 |
| qwerty12 | I use top compiled from procps | 11:37 |
| mysc | i casn't disable dimming in control panel | 11:37 |
| jldiaz | sorry, mysc, my fault | 11:37 |
| mysc | qwerty, will take a look at your suggestion. thanks! | 11:38 |
| jldiaz | not control pannel, but "Display options", tapping in the sun-shaped icon in the systray | 11:38 |
| mysc | can't turn it off jldiaz | 11:38 |
| jldiaz | "Display stays lit" -> When charging | 11:38 |
| mysc | that is not an option in os2008 | 11:38 |
| jldiaz | it is the only option | 11:39 |
| mysc | yes, but i don't have it plugged in bed | 11:39 |
| mysc | :) | 11:39 |
| jldiaz | I see... | 11:39 |
| jldiaz | what application will you be running? | 11:39 |
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| mysc | xterm | 11:40 |
| qwerty12 | Hmm, nokia kernel doesn't have CONFIG_HIDRAW. I think 2.6.21 is meant to have it :/ | 11:40 |
| jldiaz | will you be staring at xterm? :-) | 11:41 |
| jldiaz | I mean, while you are typing, no dimming occurs | 11:42 |
| mysc | yes staring. | 11:42 |
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| mysc | i can't find source for moredimmingoptions, only the .deb | 11:42 |
| qwerty12 | It just runs postinst script to add more gconf entries. | 11:43 |
| jldiaz | so, basically you are searching a way of periodically "wake up" the screen | 11:43 |
| qwerty12 | Open the deb in an archive manager. | 11:43 |
| qwerty12 | (In linux, I use file-roller) | 11:43 |
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| mysc | ok. that's what i want. to see the script :> | 11:44 |
| mysc | jldiaz, exactly, so that i can watch my movie and glance over at my tablet and see it and not have to tap it to life | 11:45 |
| qwerty12 | ar -x the deb file, and tar zxvf the control.tar.gz and cd control (I think) and vi postinst | 11:45 |
| mysc | ok, thx | 11:46 |
| Khertan_TheReal | snifff .... mt n810 is broken | 11:49 |
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| qwerty12 | Khertan_TheReal, Do you have a SSH running on it (bootmenu or openssh) | 11:49 |
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| X-Fade | GeneralAntilles, Jaffa: ping? | 11:52 |
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| jldiaz | mysc, see this_ | 11:54 |
| jldiaz | gconftool -a /system/osso/dsm/display | 11:54 |
| jldiaz | gconftool -s /system/osso/dsm/display/possible_display_dim_timeouts -t string "[10, 30, 120, 300, 1800, 3600]" | 11:56 |
| mysc | hrmm, where'd you find that pearl? :) | 11:57 |
| RST38h | pong! | 11:57 |
| qwerty12 | The moredimmingoptions runs same command too :p | 11:57 |
| qwerty12 | I just use gconf-editor for my gconf fix | 11:57 |
| qwerty12 | fix as in daily dose :p | 11:58 |
| jldiaz | but... | 11:58 |
| jldiaz | I ran that command | 11:58 |
| jldiaz | and now my display settings dialog is broken.. | 11:58 |
| jldiaz | no options in the drop-down list | 11:58 |
| jldiaz | some syntax error? | 11:59 |
| qwerty12 | gconftool-2 -t list --list-type=int -s '/system/osso/dsm/display/possible_display_dim_timeouts' '[30,60,120,300,600,1800,3600,28800,86400]' | 11:59 |
| qwerty12 | gconftool-2 -t list --list-type=int -s '/system/osso/dsm/display/possible_display_blank_timeouts' '[30,60,120,300,600,1800,3600,28800,86400]' | 11:59 |
| Khertan_TheReal | qwerty12 > no ssh ... has boot don't go more than the nokia logo and connection isn't inited yet | 11:59 |
| Khertan_TheReal | (no bootmenu) | 11:59 |
| jldiaz | aha | 11:59 |
| jldiaz | so it is not a string type, but a list tiype | 11:59 |
| jldiaz | type | 11:59 |
| jldiaz | ok | 11:59 |
| Khertan_TheReal | s/has/as | 11:59 |
| qwerty12 | Khertan_TheReal, If you had bootmenu, you could have used usbnet :/ | 11:59 |
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| qwerty12 | mysc, Those gconf lines I posted above does the job | 12:00 |
| qwerty12 | (copied from moredimmingoptions :p) | 12:00 |
| mysc | many thanks. "gconftool -a /system/osso/dsm/display" shows the editable options :) | 12:01 |
| jldiaz | mysc, you even can set the dim time from command line using gconf | 12:01 |
| qwerty12 | You should install gconf-editor, it's a graphical interface for gconf. I find it so much easier. | 12:01 |
| jldiaz | no need to alter the list of possible values | 12:01 |
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| mysc | qwerty, why'd you wait so long to tell me? suspense effect? | 12:02 |
| jldiaz | for example: | 12:02 |
| qwerty12 | No, just remembered now :p | 12:02 |
| jldiaz | gconftool -s /system/osso/dsm/display/display_dim_timeout -t int 900 | 12:02 |
| jldiaz | even if 900 is not in the list | 12:02 |
| mysc | aha, this is great! | 12:03 |
| mysc | thanks to you both. | 12:04 |
| * qwerty12 can't decide whether to keep usb dma disabled or enabled. Enabled is so much faster but a tiny bit unstable :/ | 12:06 | |
| mysc | i wonder if i can fix the bluetooth kb timeout with this too | 12:07 |
| RST38h | qwerty <-- boldly goes where no one has gone before | 12:08 |
| qwerty12 | Nah, USB DMA is enabled by default in the kernel :) | 12:09 |
| RST38h | btw, has anybody managed increasing SD access speed? I have seen some talk about default SD bus frequency being artificially lowered | 12:09 |
| qwerty12 | RST38h, flash a custom kernel | 12:09 |
| * RST38h is afraid | 12:09 | |
| qwerty12 | I've compiled my own :/ | 12:09 |
| qwerty12 | You can't brick it by doing so | 12:09 |
| RST38h | yes, but need some way to return to the standard one | 12:10 |
| qwerty12 | You can extract the standard one with the flasher tool | 12:10 |
| X-Fade | qwerty12: You can run a custom kernel without permanently flashing it? | 12:10 |
| qwerty12 | X-Fade, Yes | 12:10 |
| RST38h | also, is SD really faster with a custom kernel? | 12:10 |
| X-Fade | qwerty12: How can you brick it then :) | 12:10 |
| qwerty12 | RST38h, It seems to me to be faster but I haven't carried out any tests. | 12:10 |
| qwerty12 | X-Fade, True :) | 12:10 |
| jldiaz | mysc , which option? | 12:10 |
| jldiaz | gconftool -a /system/osso/connectivity/BT | 12:11 |
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| qwerty12 | I run a kernel with kernelpanic's usb b_idle mode fixed and fanoush's patch (enables full sd access speed) | 12:11 |
| qwerty12 | Then I disable the cpufreq when booted to make sure it's at full speed. | 12:12 |
| mysc | jldiaz, i don't find one. basically, the bt kb unpairs after some idle time and i have to either restart kb or disconnect/reconnect on panel | 12:13 |
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| Khertan_TheReal | I ve heard about a problem with the format of the internal memory on n810 ? | 12:13 |
| Khertan_TheReal | could it be the problem i ve with pdflush ? | 12:13 |
| RST38h | prolly not | 12:13 |
| jldiaz | perhaps it is a timeout on the kb, not on the tablet | 12:13 |
| qwerty12 | I know I'm gonna hate SSU. :( . Even at the moment, I'm finding it hard to maintain ripping the latest diablo initfs and adding bootmenu into it. | 12:13 |
| RST38h | BTW, a friend of mine has just got a new N810, flashed the latets firmware and now complains that it takes up to 50 power key clicks to bring the device on | 12:14 |
| mysc | jldiaz, it might be... | 12:14 |
| hrw | RST38h: card speed depends on card - some cards fails with high-speed hacked kernel | 12:14 |
| RST38h | Anybody seen this problem? (I mean since the infamous freeze-your-n800 story) | 12:14 |
| qwerty12 | RST38h, Shove it in RD mode :P | 12:14 |
| EvilGuru | Can my N810 act as a bluetooth keyboard? Or is there only support for connecting a bluetooth keyboard to it | 12:14 |
| RST38h | hrw: Oh =( | 12:14 |
| Khertan_TheReal | RST38h > mine try to boot since 5 hours ... | 12:15 |
| hrw | Khertan_TheReal: some internal sd cards are wrongly partitioned | 12:15 |
| * qwerty12 keeps my N800 in RD mode. | 12:15 | |
| hrw | Khertan_TheReal: so have partition a bit larger then card itself | 12:15 |
| RST38h | qwerty: How do you switch in and what does it give you? =) | 12:15 |
| jldiaz | EvilGuru , at least it can acts as a wifi keyboard :-) Using x2x | 12:15 |
| mysc | speaking of cards, my nit ate its first card, a 4gb patriot. not sure if it was the card's fault though. | 12:15 |
| mysc | so from now on i am only buying cheap cards :) | 12:16 |
| hrw | EvilGuru: there was hacked xkbd to act n800 as bt keyboard. but it will rather not forward n810 hw keyboard | 12:16 |
| EvilGuru | jldiaz: That will do it (x2x) | 12:16 |
| qwerty12 | RST38h, It can be done via flasher utility. It gives root without installing anything and some extra info on bootup but why I'm saying to turn it on is because you don't have to hold down power button, just one press turns it on :p | 12:16 |
| Khertan_TheReal | hrw > you are talking about internal memory card (/media/mmc2) ? right ? could this affect the internal ? | 12:16 |
| RST38h | qwerty: Ah! | 12:16 |
| jldiaz | I used x2x to turn my n810 into a digitizer tablet for x-window | 12:17 |
| * pupnik searches for a good cheap thai restaurant in berlin | 12:17 | |
| RST38h | BTW, I suspect he did not hold the button but clicked it =) | 12:17 |
| jldiaz | not very useful, actually, but funny :-) | 12:17 |
| pupnik | 4 days no internet... what a catastrophe | 12:17 |
| qwerty12 | RST38h, Hehe | 12:17 |
| jldiaz | you don't even need to have x2x in the tablet, it is enough to have it in your x-window server | 12:17 |
| RST38h | Going to make him happy ;) | 12:17 |
| RST38h | pupnik: anything changed? =) | 12:17 |
| Khertan_TheReal | hum ... flashing process failed ... !( | 12:18 |
| EvilGuru | Also is there any way to force for a password on boot-up, rather than just going straight to the desktop | 12:18 |
| hrw | Khertan_TheReal: I had that on internal card | 12:18 |
| pupnik | ? | 12:18 |
| X-Fade_ | pupnik: 4 days no internet? | 12:18 |
| pupnik | linuxtag | 12:18 |
| Khertan_TheReal | so this is more than a software problem | 12:18 |
| X-Fade_ | pupnik: Doesn't you hotel have internet? | 12:19 |
| jldiaz | simply, write in your osso-xterm: ssh Desktop-PC x2x -to :0 | 12:19 |
| X-Fade_ | *your | 12:19 |
| pupnik | ah not gonna pay through the nose for that | 12:19 |
| jldiaz | no, wait | 12:19 |
| jldiaz | ssh -X Desktop-PC x2x -to :0 | 12:19 |
| X-Fade_ | pupnik: What hotel are you staying in? | 12:19 |
| * qwerty12 really <3's the Linux Keytouch program | 12:19 | |
| jldiaz | that is | 12:19 |
| pupnik | art otel | 12:19 |
| X-Fade_ | pupnik: Me too ;) | 12:19 |
| X-Fade_ | pupnik: I'm sure we can arrange something. | 12:19 |
| qwerty12 | 0.o | 12:20 |
| * qwerty12 runs | 12:20 | |
| jldiaz | mysc , I 've se the dim timeout to 900, 15 min ago. And now the screen dimmed | 12:21 |
| X-Fade_ | pupnik: Maybe bring a spare AP and link it with the hotel's ;) | 12:21 |
| jldiaz | It worked | 12:21 |
| jldiaz | btw | 12:21 |
| jldiaz | the blank timeout was only 120 | 12:21 |
| jldiaz | (less than dim timeout) | 12:21 |
| mysc | so dim supercedes, interesting. | 12:21 |
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| mysc | i.e. can't black if you haven't dimmed | 12:21 |
| jldiaz | and the screen did not blanked at 120, it remained light | 12:21 |
| pupnik | ok will bring my crapp ap. i'll try to provide a live cam setup to film tablets | 12:22 |
| jldiaz | at 900, it dimmed and blanked :-) | 12:22 |
| mysc | blank | 12:22 |
| jldiaz | and 900 was not in the list of allowable timeouts | 12:22 |
| pupnik | going to get the usb networking and film-box going | 12:22 |
| mysc | jldiaz, excellent! and you didn't pass a list but type int, right? | 12:22 |
| pupnik | so i can control tablet from laptop | 12:22 |
| jldiaz | yes | 12:22 |
| jldiaz | gconftool -s /system/osso/dsm/display/display_dim_timeout -t int 900 | 12:22 |
| jldiaz | note that the key name is "display_dim_timeout" | 12:23 |
| jldiaz | not "possible_display_dim_timeouts" | 12:23 |
| mysc | yep, i used that one too. | 12:23 |
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| jldiaz | btw.. there is much difference in power consumption betweenm blank screen and dim screen? | 12:26 |
| mysc | not sure. i will write a script to poll battery levels at different screen levels... | 12:28 |
| jldiaz | strange... I ran "battery-status" from commandline, and it reported me 57% | 12:28 |
| jldiaz | however, the systray icon is full | 12:29 |
| qwerty12 | systray icon sucks | 12:29 |
| jldiaz | and reports me "6days/4hours" | 12:29 |
| Khertan_TheReal | :) | 12:29 |
| mysc | systray icon does suck on the battery | 12:29 |
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| qwerty12 | kcbatt is nice too (gets values from raw retu device) but I don't get the output :p | 12:29 |
| jldiaz | If I recall correctly, battery-status obtains the battery level by asking to the systray applet, via dbus | 12:30 |
| kpanic | hi, someone has python's setuptools easy_install working? I have installed python2.5-setuptools from the extra repo of chinhook but it requires the pkg-resources package | 12:30 |
| kpanic | thanks | 12:30 |
| qwerty12 | jldiaz, yes | 12:31 |
| jldiaz | there is not any other way? | 12:31 |
| qwerty12 | I just use both and take my pick out of which value I believe :P | 12:31 |
| qwerty12 | kcbatt is open source | 12:31 |
| qwerty12 | iirc | 12:31 |
| jldiaz | kcbatt... ok | 12:31 |
| qwerty12 | kcbatt gets values from retu, not from applet | 12:31 |
| qwerty12 | retu will be more accurate | 12:31 |
| qwerty12 | hi lardman. Found a way to make my dsp sound like a car subwoofer? :p | 12:34 |
| kulve | qwerty12: where's the source for kcbatt? | 12:34 |
| qwerty12 | Same folder as kcbatt | 12:34 |
| qwerty12 | http://mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/kcbatt/ | 12:34 |
| qwerty12 | kcbatt.c I assujme | 12:35 |
| qwerty12 | *assume | 12:35 |
| kulve | ah, company firewall blocking here.. | 12:35 |
| qwerty12 | I guess dcc is out of question? :p. If you want it, give me a hosting site that works for you. | 12:35 |
| kulve | no need, I can use links outside our company | 12:35 |
| qwerty12 | Ah, ok | 12:36 |
| * qwerty12 goes off to compile another kernel. I must add in pH5's beta/unfinished (?) powervr driver | 12:36 | |
| lardman | qwerty12: you got a link for that? | 12:37 |
| qwerty12 | It's on KotCzarny's server | 12:37 |
| qwerty12 | BTW, I added in your dsp fb patch. No idea what it does but I'm a tosser anywayz | 12:38 |
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| X-Fade_ | keesj: ping? | 12:38 |
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| lardman | qwerty12: just allows the dsp to specify the output x,y,width & height, rather than the kernel reading the 4 16bit values which happen to follow the pointer to the struct it is passed (and usually producing rubbish output) | 12:39 |
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| qwerty12 | Ah, ok, thanks | 12:39 |
| * qwerty12 also really <3's fanoush's patch to use make menuconfig in sbox | 12:40 | |
| lardman | qwerty12: unpatched kernel is ok for the LCD controller in the 770 as it can't specify the output x,y,width & height. Looks like no-one bothered to update it as they stopped using the DSP for fb access | 12:41 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 12:41 |
| * qwerty12 nods, thanks for explanation lardman | 12:41 | |
| Jaffa | X-Fade_: pong | 12:41 |
| qwerty12 | Morning | 12:41 |
| Jaffa | timely: pong | 12:42 |
| X-Fade_ | Jaffa: Do you have admin rights on the new wiki? | 12:42 |
| Jaffa | X-Fade_: NAFAIK, but I've not tried (or checked) | 12:42 |
| lardman | qwerty12: I give up, do you have an url for KotCzarny's website? | 12:42 |
| qwerty12 | http://mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/946765.diff | 12:43 |
| X-Fade_ | Jaffa: Ah, well me neither. But it seems that an admin can just edit the stylesheet from within the wiki. | 12:43 |
| qwerty12 | I posted kcbatt link few mins before :p | 12:43 |
| X-Fade_ | Jaffa: https://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&action=edit | 12:43 |
| Jaffa | X-Fade_: ah, cool. | 12:43 |
| qwerty12 | "For now this driver only turns on the clocks and power to the PowerVR MBX peripheral integrated into OMAP2420 CPUs." - If I embed this into the kernel instead of module, I guess more of my battery will be wasted? | 12:43 |
| X-Fade_ | But I need admin rights to do that ;) So I guess I'll go and get that first. | 12:43 |
| Jaffa | X-Fade_: "You do not have permission to do that" :-/ | 12:44 |
| lardman | qwerty12: I seem to remember him saying that it wouldn't do much other than being a proof of concept | 12:44 |
| X-Fade_ | Jaffa: Yep. But GA should be able to, I think. | 12:44 |
| qwerty12 | lardman, Yeah, I know it wasn't complete but clocks and power seem to be a good start :/ | 12:45 |
| X-Fade_ | lardman: Thanks for the ticket btw ;) | 12:45 |
| lardman | qwerty12: absolutely, but depends on whether you plan on hacking on it; otherwise might not be worth it | 12:45 |
| hrw | X-Fade_: pastebin new css somewhere | 12:47 |
| X-Fade_ | hrw: Yeah, need to create it first ;) | 12:47 |
| qwerty12 | lardman, I don't think it will be worth it anyway. If memory serves me well, some interesting things were said at #maemo-meeting | 12:47 |
| hrw | hm.. dneary is probably the only one with proper rights. | 12:48 |
| lardman | qwerty12: yes, will have to ask in person this week :) | 12:48 |
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| hrw | I also lack permission | 12:48 |
| X-Fade_ | hrw: I'll get them. | 12:49 |
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| qwerty12 | Khertan, Overreact much? | 12:49 |
| qwerty12 | :p | 12:49 |
| qwerty12 | lardman, :) | 12:49 |
| qwerty12 | GoodByeMyNIT, flasher -f -F RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.51-3_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -R ;) | 12:50 |
| GoodByeMyNIT | qwerty12 > failed | 12:50 |
| GoodByeMyNIT | i ve tryed several times ... | 12:51 |
| qwerty12 | What's going wrong then? | 12:51 |
| GoodByeMyNIT | at 32% while uploading... device shutdown | 12:52 |
| qwerty12 | Is the charger in? | 12:52 |
| GoodByeMyNIT | no | 12:52 |
| qwerty12 | Maybe its running out of power? | 12:53 |
| GoodByeMyNIT | i ve try with it too | 12:53 |
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| GoodByeMyNIT | battery is fully charged (it s the same in my phone) | 12:53 |
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| hrw | GoodByeMyNIT: connect charger just in case | 12:54 |
| qwerty12 | w00t, gronmayer is back :) | 12:54 |
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| hrw | cool | 12:55 |
| qwerty12 | Who wants to add the diablo repo there? :P | 12:55 |
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| GoodByeMyNIT | hrw > i ve tryed too ... | 12:56 |
| GoodByeMyNIT | it s still under waranty ... | 12:56 |
| GoodByeMyNIT | so i ll send it ... | 12:56 |
| hrw | GoodByeMyNIT: question... | 12:56 |
| GoodByeMyNIT | ? | 12:56 |
| hrw | GoodByeMyNIT: did it worked properly before? | 12:56 |
| GoodByeMyNIT | yes | 12:56 |
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| hrw | qwerty12: diablo can be installed only by update? | 12:57 |
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| qwerty12 | hrw, For us non nokians yes. | 12:57 |
| qwerty12 | I think FIASCO image exists internally. | 12:57 |
| qwerty12 | I'm running diablo now. | 12:58 |
| hrw | qwerty12: will have to dump current rootfs and try diablo one day | 12:58 |
| Khertan_theReal | just three or four times when i close the keyboard the device shutdown without reason | 12:58 |
| hrw | I am curious how many things are not fixed still | 12:58 |
| qwerty12 | Quite a lot :/ | 12:58 |
| Jaffa | hrw: my guess, "lots" | 12:58 |
| Jaffa | qwerty12: is there an updated Maps app? | 12:58 |
| qwerty12 | Only thing to me that stands out is that finger recognition is fixed. | 12:59 |
| qwerty12 | Jaffa, Don't think so but I don't use maps | 12:59 |
| Khertan_theReal | is there a deadline for diablo ? | 12:59 |
| Jaffa | Khertan_theReal: End of June (2Q). Wouldn't be surprised if it was missed. | 12:59 |
| * qwerty12 sets up a quick unofficial diablo target in sbox | 13:00 | |
| Khertan_theReal | Jaffa > i prefer they missed it and they deliver a good well tested and stable release. | 13:00 |
| zap | Anybody knows how to get a list of URLs to .deb files to do offline installation of a package (I need evince and no internet connection here)? | 13:00 |
| Jaffa | Khertan_theReal: I'd rather they released early and released often - especially with SSU. | 13:01 |
| Khertan_theReal | Jaffa > yes ... but only if ssu is well working :) | 13:02 |
| Khertan_theReal | zap > repository.mameo.org | 13:02 |
| zap | yes, but it needs quite a number of deps | 13:02 |
| qwerty12 | So far, SSU works flawlessly. Except for them providing too big initfs image (means I have to go on computer and strip it out myself) and them providing kernel that won't boot on N810 (not a problem for me as I use N800) but I guess those problems won't exist in final. | 13:03 |
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| dneary | Hello | 13:36 |
| X-Fade_ | Is there anybody who needs a LinuxTag pass? I have some more now. | 13:36 |
| keesj | X-Fade_: thanks! | 13:37 |
| X-Fade_ | keesj: Now practice your german ;) | 13:38 |
| keesj | yes, I now have been able to download a pdf with my name on it | 13:38 |
| qwerty12 | w00t, new SSU update out! | 13:38 |
| X-Fade_ | keesj: And mine too, I guess ;) | 13:38 |
| keesj | yep, I know who you are | 13:39 |
| X-Fade_ | I have lardman's on the back of mine ;) | 13:39 |
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| hrw | I need to talk wit boss... to know does lt or not lt | 13:41 |
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| gimmal | W00t pidgin | 13:43 |
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| kkrusty | wheres the VM for maemo development? | 13:45 |
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| kkrusty | nevermind. I've found it | 13:47 |
| trickie | dneary: hi, are you going to linuxtag? | 13:48 |
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| hrw | shit. | 13:55 |
| hrw | serial port in my laptop died | 13:55 |
| qwerty12 | My N800 died during latest SSU update :/ | 13:55 |
| qwerty12 | POS keeps rebooting now at boot | 13:56 |
| qwerty12 | Gonna reflash chinook and install diablo again later. | 13:57 |
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| GAN800 | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3161 | 14:23 |
| GAN800 | Ha | 14:23 |
| GAN800 | Now let's see if Nokia will move on their side of things. . . . | 14:23 |
| GAN800 | andre____, thanks. ;) | 14:23 |
| andre____ | GAN800, heh, sure. let me see what i can do | 14:26 |
| GAN800 | Personally, I'm not optimistic. <_< | 14:27 |
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| lardman | I thought I rememebered someone saying that the spec was more "flexible" now...? | 14:28 |
| andre____ | GAN800, looks like most people aren't optimistic. we're here to change that ;-) | 14:28 |
| GAN800 | I've yet to see any evidence of that. | 14:29 |
| lardman | Some things are silly - such as the menus not wrapping round when scrolling up/down | 14:29 |
| lardman | I'm sure the list goes on and on | 14:29 |
| andre____ | file bugs! you can now! :) | 14:29 |
| lardman | already done | 14:29 |
| lardman | no idea what number it is though | 14:29 |
| andre____ | which ID? | 14:29 |
| andre____ | hmm | 14:30 |
| GAN800 | After enough years of getting beat down on these things over and over there's a lot of inertia behind the pessimism. :( | 14:30 |
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| lardman | wasn't my bug, I'll have to search my email archive to see if I got a reply from it | 14:30 |
| andre____ | sure, i understand that | 14:30 |
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| GAN800 | #303 is probably a fair way to sum everything up in a nice little bitsize manner. | 14:32 |
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| * andre____ takes a look | 14:33 | |
| lardman | :) | 14:33 |
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| lardman | that's a runner | 14:33 |
| GAN800 | Ugh . . . osso-email is eating my mail. | 14:35 |
| GAN800 | I'll be so glad when that thing is finally put down. | 14:36 |
| RST38h | is it happy though? | 14:36 |
| GAN800 | I hope not. | 14:36 |
| lardman | GAN800: eating it? I seemed to lose any mail from maemo-* while I was away and using it | 14:36 |
| lardman | GAN800: not sure whether it was the client or my spam filter going mad | 14:36 |
| RST38h | Seriously, they may need to assign some guy to look at user submitted bugs and copy the most important ones into their internal bug tracker | 14:37 |
| X-Fade_ | RST38h: What do you think Andre's job is ;) | 14:37 |
| GAN800 | I keep getting new mail notifications, Modest throws a millisecond error dialog when trying to open from the notification and the new mail isn't in my inbox when I open it from the Application Menu. | 14:38 |
| andre____ | X-Fade_: correct :) | 14:38 |
| RST38h | XFade: I wish him success then =) | 14:38 |
| nomis | what is the difference between bugzilla and garage bug tracker btw.? | 14:38 |
| X-Fade_ | RST38h: Nokia hired Andre and Karsten to do just that. | 14:38 |
| GAN800 | I'm assuming osso-email is grabbing them, but I deleted its .desktop. | 14:39 |
| X-Fade_ | Well and a lot of other things ;) | 14:39 |
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| lardman | nomis: garage is for the garage component in question | 14:39 |
| lardman | nomis: e.g. mplayer bugs should go to the Garage bugtracker for that app | 14:39 |
| RST38h | Hehe, gentlemen, this is just too rich to keep it from you: | 14:40 |
| andre____ | nomis: maemo bugzilla contains "official" software, garage tracker everything else of the universe :) | 14:40 |
| RST38h | Microsoft Mobile Comm Business Division and HTC marketing folks are holding a contest on the best story about how WinMobile communicator is helping its user in performing everyday tasks | 14:41 |
| RST38h | The winner will get HTC P3350 | 14:41 |
| andre____ | trickie: if i remember correctly dave will be there, yes | 14:42 |
| eocanha | jldiaz: one question | 14:42 |
| zap | I was using a WinMobile communicator, got tired of it in a month | 14:42 |
| eocanha | when you launch the x2x program, do you see anything in the N800 screen? | 14:42 |
| zap | then I thrown it out of window and bought a N810 | 14:42 |
| zap | I'm very grateful to MS for their horrible PocketPC, it gave me a feeling what a real OS means | 14:43 |
| zap | will this classify? | 14:43 |
| RST38h | probably not | 14:43 |
| RST38h | Maybe this one will: | 14:43 |
| zap | sad :( I want a HTC P3350 so that I can throw it out of window once more | 14:43 |
| RST38h | "I love my WinMobile communicator. It helps me throw up after a hard day of business restaurant dining" | 14:44 |
| GAN800 | Anybody besides qwerty12 tried the SSU update today. | 14:44 |
| trickie | andre____: ta, i thought we could organise even an hour or two to 'wiki sprint' | 14:44 |
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| andre____ | trickie: the break at noon sounds long enough to do that, yeah. pity i can't be there :-/ | 14:45 |
| trickie | ok cool | 14:45 |
| trickie | the break part i mean is cool | 14:45 |
| X-Fade_ | When are you guys there? I'll be arriving on Wednesday afternoon, so I can meet up on Wednesday too. | 14:46 |
| trickie | pity you are not there also :( | 14:46 |
| andre____ | trickie, http://www.linuxtag.org/2008/en/conf/events/vp-donnerstag.html | 14:46 |
| trickie | X-Fade_: im flying in lateish wed evening | 14:46 |
| trickie | only gonna be around thurs/fri | 14:46 |
| andre____ | trickie: i could be there in the morning or evening, but not in the afternoon - university lessons :-( | 14:47 |
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| trickie | andre____: well hope you get to see some of the conference anyway | 14:47 |
| andre____ | yupp | 14:48 |
| lcuk | X-Fade_, are you in the nokia hotel as well | 14:51 |
| X-Fade_ | Yep. | 14:51 |
| lcuk | good, sounds like a plan then, just sit in the bar drinking and playing with nokia :) | 14:51 |
| X-Fade_ | I think we also need to plan a Numpty level design sprint ;) | 14:52 |
| RST38h | heheh | 14:53 |
| lcuk | ahem, we might, as long as it doesnt include another spiral | 14:53 |
| GAN800 | Pfft | 14:53 |
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| GAN800 | You're just weak of will, lcuk. :p | 14:54 |
| trickie | are you guys in the nokia hotel close to the conference site? | 14:54 |
| lardman | I'm around from Tuesday evening | 14:55 |
| lcuk | no im not, i've just got better things to do than try to make 1/225inch movements with cursor ;) | 14:55 |
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| lcuk | ive got WORK on tuesday :( | 14:55 |
| lardman | me too, flying in the evening | 14:55 |
| lcuk | flying at 4am wed | 14:55 |
| lcuk | manchester to amsterdam....then walking the rest of the way.. to the next terminal for a flight to berlin | 14:56 |
| lardman | 6pm Bristol -> Berlin :) | 14:58 |
| _berto_ | i'm arriving on wednesday | 14:58 |
| lcuk | that would have been better, damn | 14:58 |
| lcuk | have we all got our presentations sorted? | 15:00 |
| trickie | lcuk: which presentation you doing? | 15:00 |
| lcuk | the first one | 15:01 |
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| _berto_ | btw, how are the presentations going to be? standard lightning talks with some slides? | 15:01 |
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| X-Fade_ | Does anybody know what projector etc is used? I hope my laptop works with it ;) | 15:02 |
| X-Fade_ | _berto_: I think that is what mine is going to be. Doesn't have to be long and with lots of slides. | 15:04 |
| _berto_ | of course not, we have just 5-10 min :) | 15:04 |
| X-Fade_ | _berto_: Well at 50FPS you can do a lot of slides :) | 15:05 |
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| _berto_ | :D | 15:05 |
| * lardman has no idea the format of the presentations | 15:06 | |
| _berto_ | i'll prepare some slides | 15:06 |
| lcuk | heh, i best include slides showing irc ;) | 15:07 |
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| Khertan_theReal | :) | 15:09 |
| Khertan_theReal | hum some projector haven't 50fps ... :) | 15:10 |
| Khertan_theReal | s/haven't / can't display | 15:10 |
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| lcuk | Khertan_theReal, :) hello. i have to say for now thank you for pygtkeditor, its useful for when i am coding in c directly on device | 15:13 |
| lcuk | though its got some bugs and crashes often when i try things, ill give full bug report when i get back | 15:13 |
| Khertan_theReal | your welcome ... | 15:15 |
| Khertan_theReal | and if you have any suggestion too :) | 15:15 |
| lcuk | i do indeed, you will see the starting of something which i hope will work for lots of things soon.. | 15:15 |
| Khertan_theReal | it s just i ll can't do this before two or three weeks ... as my n810 died today :) | 15:15 |
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| lcuk | Khertan_theReal, what happened to it? | 15:30 |
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| GAN8001 | X-Fade_, no admin rights here. | 15:53 |
| X-Fade_ | GAN8001: I have them now. Just need to find some time to create the css itself. | 15:54 |
| X-Fade_ | GAN8001: Did you see the front page? It is pretty cluttered right now? :) | 15:55 |
| GAN8001 | Yeah | 15:57 |
| GAN8001 | Somebody came in and screwed around | 15:58 |
| GAN8001 | https://wiki.maemo.org/index.php/Special:Recentchanges | 15:58 |
| GAN8001 | Looks like one "ludovicus" | 15:58 |
| GAN8001 | Never heard of him. | 15:58 |
| X-Fade_ | Yep. | 15:58 |
| X-Fade_ | He did a lot of changes, it seems. | 15:59 |
| GAN8001 | We need to get rolling mediawiki side before more little fairies decide to try to impose their idea of "order" on it. :D | 15:59 |
| GAN8001 | dneary, how close are we getting? | 16:00 |
| X-Fade_ | Well, it can be set to immutable? | 16:00 |
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| eichi | someone knows how to set km instead of mi in gpxview? | 16:06 |
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| dneary | GAN8001: Indeed, I want to make the front page more manageable | 16:09 |
| dneary | 4 sections, full stop | 16:09 |
| dneary | No Category: links, if I can help it | 16:09 |
| dneary | And I wanted to rename many of the migrated pages | 16:09 |
| GAN8001 | So what will the sections link to? | 16:09 |
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| skibur | Has anybody managed to get a USB GPS device working with Maemo Mapper? | 16:11 |
| dneary | I think ludovicus was on IRC at one stage | 16:15 |
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| dneary | GAN8001: Users, Developers, Community... | 16:17 |
| dneary | Can't think of a 4th one | 16:17 |
| GAN8001 | What's in Users? | 16:18 |
| GAN8001 | HowTos, etc? | 16:18 |
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| GAN8001 | ludovicus isn't in any of the #maemo logs, maybe you're thinking of locutus? | 16:19 |
| X-Fade_ | Ludovicus is a new member. He registered the 22nd. | 16:20 |
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| lopz | hi | 16:29 |
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| dneary | GAN8001: Users would have included things like howtos, upgrading/finding software, troubleshooting | 16:53 |
| dneary | GAN8001: I believe he sent me an email asking to help. | 16:53 |
| dneary | He's certainly enthusiastic :) | 16:53 |
| zap | Does OMAP2420 contain a hardware floating-point co-processor? Can't find info on it | 16:54 |
| GAN8001 | Hehe. Unfortunately, a large amount of that enthusiasm is going to waste at the moment. <_< | 16:55 |
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| trickie | dneary: hi there! | 17:00 |
| dneary | hi trickie | 17:00 |
| trickie | dneary: we were discussing the possibiltiy of a wiki sprint at linuxtag in the couple of hours break in the maemo track on thursday | 17:00 |
| trickie | we == mainly me :) | 17:00 |
| trickie | dneary: you gonna be around at linuxtag? andre____ said you might be | 17:02 |
| dneary | Yes! | 17:02 |
| dneary | Great idea! | 17:02 |
| dneary | And yes, I'll be there | 17:02 |
| trickie | cool | 17:02 |
| dneary | We should get qgil in on the act ;) | 17:02 |
| andre____ | hehe | 17:02 |
| trickie | i haven't had much time top help out unfortunately, so i figure that time is as good as any to get somethign done! | 17:03 |
| lardman | zap: not omap per se, but the arm chip has a vfp coprocessor | 17:03 |
| trickie | dneary: for sure | 17:03 |
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| lardman | zap: why do you ask? | 17:10 |
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| lcuk | phew! o2 had an emergency charger (takes single aa battery) | 17:22 |
| lcuk | X-Fade_, think im set now | 17:22 |
| lcuk | thx for earlier | 17:23 |
| X-Fade_ | lcuk: Good to hear that :) | 17:23 |
| Khertan_theReal | if they have an emergency firmware i take it too :) | 17:23 |
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| X-Fade_ | Khertan_theReal: What did you do? | 17:27 |
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| Khertan_theReal | X-Fade_ > killing my n810 :) | 17:33 |
| Khertan_theReal | for information, two days ago ... my n810 was slowing down ... really slowing down | 17:34 |
| Khertan_theReal | and i see the process pdflush eating 100 % of the cpu ... | 17:34 |
| Khertan_theReal | so with an ssh session i see that / was full ... :( | 17:34 |
| X-Fade_ | Sounds like a bad flash? | 17:34 |
| X-Fade_ | Ah yeah, that can happen too :) | 17:34 |
| Khertan_theReal | a stupid kernel module writing too much log | 17:34 |
| lcuk | uninstall some crap | 17:35 |
| Khertan_theReal | so i ve make a bit clean | 17:35 |
| lcuk | that pygtkeditor is just taking up space ;) delete it | 17:35 |
| Khertan_theReal | but after have 60% free on / | 17:35 |
| Khertan_theReal | i have still the problem | 17:35 |
| Khertan_theReal | lcuk > pygtkeditor is on mmc :) | 17:35 |
| Khertan_theReal | so i flash it | 17:35 |
| lcuk | did you clean off the 2gb internal card | 17:35 |
| Khertan_theReal | with the last kernel | 17:35 |
| Khertan_theReal | format the internal card | 17:36 |
| Khertan_theReal | and 2 days after it wont boot staying on nokia logo | 17:36 |
| lcuk | yer, the internal card has a corruption problem if it gets full | 17:36 |
| Khertan_theReal | so i try to flash it again ... and flash always fail at 32% | 17:36 |
| jldiaz | anyone remembers how much of the root filesystem is used by the buil-in apps/os? | 17:36 |
| Khertan_theReal | jldiaz > i think 50% | 17:36 |
| lcuk | khertan, i gather you popped the battery and did a total full reset | 17:36 |
| Khertan_theReal | already done | 17:37 |
| jldiaz | Hmm.. I guess it could be deduced from the jffs2 images provided by nokia | 17:37 |
| lcuk | oh cripes | 17:37 |
| jldiaz | (deduced->derived) | 17:37 |
| jldiaz | (false friends...) | 17:37 |
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| Khertan_theReal | i think the 100% / was just the seeing face of the iceberf | 17:38 |
| Khertan_theReal | iceberg | 17:38 |
| Khertan_theReal | and mine n810 have some memory problem | 17:38 |
| Khertan_theReal | i ve already get some strange shutdown | 17:39 |
| lcuk | engage nokia recovery personel. khertan, assume the party escort position whilst the nokia team do their work | 17:39 |
| lcuk | alternatively, call it in as an RMA | 17:39 |
| Khertan_theReal | the party escort position ? | 17:40 |
| Khertan_theReal | (sorry i'm french :) and my english sucks too much) | 17:40 |
| Khertan_theReal | i ll try again at home this night to flash it with a real os ... (linux) | 17:41 |
| Khertan_theReal | and if none works i ll tell their tomorrow | 17:41 |
| Khertan_theReal | the device is still under waranty | 17:41 |
| lcuk | http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Portal/Chamber_19 | 17:41 |
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| Khertan_theReal | lcuk> ouch ! | 17:44 |
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| lcuk | actually a classy game :) though since i started playing nokia its been left alone and unloved | 17:45 |
| Khertan_theReal | http://strategywiki.org/wiki/M.U.S.C.L.E. :) | 17:46 |
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| X-Fade_ | Sigh, Darius is spamming again ;) | 18:15 |
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| RST38h | Show, show me! | 18:17 |
| * RST38h feels like sodomizing a troll or two | 18:17 | |
| Khertan_theReal | gnieé ? | 18:17 |
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| freelikegnu | hey john | 18:20 |
| johnx | hey | 18:20 |
| freelikegnu | I think it was rebooting because I removed a service | 18:20 |
| qwerty12 | johnx, You in Japan? :) | 18:20 |
| johnx | yeah | 18:20 |
| qwerty12 | Cool! :) | 18:21 |
| johnx | guessed from my host mask? | 18:21 |
| qwerty12 | Yes :) | 18:21 |
| qwerty12 | After watching Tokyo Drift again, I want to go :( | 18:21 |
| johnx | gah...tokyo drift | 18:21 |
| * johnx kries | 18:21 | |
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| GAN8001 | <3 Portal | 18:29 |
| johnx | yes, it's pretty awesome | 18:29 |
| lcuk | <3 half life | 18:29 |
| t_s_o | so, there will be a official service manager in diablo? | 18:29 |
| qwerty12 | I used to play portal but then I couldn't be arsed to get the latest gcfs... | 18:29 |
| qwerty12 | t_s_o, no | 18:30 |
| lcuk | played from day 1, it was run replaying original half life | 18:30 |
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| lcuk | fun | 18:30 |
| lcuk | ffs im gonna RMA my fingers | 18:30 |
| t_s_o | qwerty12: so what was that screenshot of on the forum? | 18:30 |
| GAN8001 | X-Fade_, can't you ban him for spam or something? :D | 18:30 |
| qwerty12 | t_s_o, Something else I installed. comes with usb networking stuff. you can even get in chinook | 18:31 |
| t_s_o | hmm, i should probably look it up then ;) | 18:32 |
| qwerty12 | Hmm, anyone know how to package a python app? | 18:32 |
| lcuk | isnt there a python packager thingy | 18:32 |
| qwerty12 | t_s_o, I've already done that and I'm gonna have to do it again, reflashed today :/ | 18:32 |
| qwerty12 | lcuk, That's a python app to create debs in general | 18:32 |
| lcuk | i would assume since its wrote in python it would be self packaging hence you could package your other python apps with it.. | 18:33 |
| qwerty12 | No matter, http://home.cfl.rr.com/genecash/nokia/making_packages.html - gene cash comes to the rescue | 18:34 |
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| X-Fade_ | GAN8001: That is possible, but I don't know what to think of him. Is he really thinking he is doing a good thing? | 18:35 |
| GAN8001 | He's off his rocker, that's for sure. | 18:36 |
| GAN8001 | It's mostly just comedy gold when he's spamming itT, but the lists seem to be spam of the more harmful sort. | 18:37 |
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| dneary | X-Fade_: Any idea where this page came from? https://wiki.maemo.org/index.php/Maemo_Training | 18:39 |
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| lcuk | dneary, aren't you meant to know EVERYTHING nowadays ;) | 18:43 |
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| t_s_o | qwerty12: would that be the usb-otg-plugin? | 18:44 |
| pupnik | It would be easier if the Debian changelog format was documented anywhere, but it's not, and every time I touched it, the Debian tools refused to ever use it again. | 18:44 |
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| pupnik | "" | 18:44 |
| pupnik | ty qwerty12 you're super-helpful | 18:44 |
| lcuk | is there a changelog for the changelog? | 18:44 |
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| qwerty12 | pupnik, what? :P. Why am I being thanked? :) | 18:45 |
| GAN8001 | for the changelog for the changelog . . . | 18:45 |
| * GAN8001 's head explodes. | 18:46 | |
| lcuk | pupnik, i have an emergency charger now for my 810 - its just a single AA battery with a nokia plug on end :) its gonna keep me topped up forever | 18:46 |
| qwerty12 | Unless it was /sarcasm? | 18:46 |
| pupnik | WHAT | 18:46 |
| pupnik | no sarcasm | 18:46 |
| lcuk | (as long as i have everlasting supply of AA's ) | 18:46 |
| pupnik | useful python plug | 18:46 |
| pupnik | aa is 1.2v or so | 18:46 |
| johnx | lcuk, so you're using a voltage regulator? | 18:46 |
| * GAN8001 picked up one of the adaptors that was on woot a few weeks ago. | 18:47 | |
| GAN8001 | You can plug two 9vs to charge in an emergency. | 18:47 |
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| lcuk | i dunno, its a lipstick tube i got the from o2 shop and the package said "emergency charger" | 18:48 |
| lcuk | apply directly to your moistened temples: | 18:48 |
| lcuk | ? | 18:48 |
| qwerty12|busy | ezi now | 18:48 |
| * qwerty12|busy goes back to being busy... | 18:48 | |
| lcuk | lol | 18:48 |
| lcuk | i dont normally mark as busy because im normally floating around | 18:48 |
| GAN8001 | Also, it's irritating. :P | 18:49 |
| pupnik | http://www.schlemmerinfo.de/eng/berlin/kategorien/asien/thailand/index.html Thai restaurants Berlin | 18:49 |
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| mgedmin | who's going to be in Berlin tomorrow? | 18:50 |
| lcuk | i'll be there on wednsday | 18:50 |
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| dneary | lcuk: I *do* know everything | 18:53 |
| dneary | It's understanding that's the problem | 18:53 |
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| dneary | I'm arriving tomorrow afternoon | 18:53 |
| lcuk | im working tomorrow afternoon | 18:53 |
| lcuk | bleugh! | 18:53 |
| * lcuk has never travelled so far on his own before | 18:54 | |
| qwerty12|busy | aww | 18:54 |
| qwerty12|busy | Need the hostess to hold your hand? | 18:55 |
| lcuk | not my hand | 18:55 |
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| * mgedmin hates traveling alone | 18:55 | |
| qwerty12|busy | lol | 18:55 |
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| lcuk | i might drop my 810 | 18:55 |
| qwerty12|busy | So how does a ./setup.py work. I can't for the life of my figure it out :/ | 18:55 |
| summatusmentis | what's in bernlin? | 18:55 |
| qwerty12|busy | linuxtag | 18:55 |
| summatusmentis | oh | 18:55 |
| summatusmentis | I was just at a conference | 18:56 |
| mgedmin | does a ./setup.py work? that is the question | 18:56 |
| qwerty12|busy | I just get usage: setup.py [global_opts] cmd1 [cmd1_opts] [cmd2 [cmd2_opts] ...] | 18:56 |
| qwerty12|busy | & error: no commands supplied | 18:56 |
| lcuk | do we know what arrangements are set for wednesday night yet | 18:56 |
| mgedmin | what is your goal, qwerty12|busy? | 18:56 |
| mgedmin | to install the package into /usr/, do python setup.py install | 18:56 |
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| qwerty12|busy | Ah, ok thanks | 18:56 |
| mgedmin | if you don't want to install it, ignore the setup.py | 18:56 |
| lcuk | is quim planning to get as many together as possible so we at least know each others faces before thursday | 18:56 |
| qwerty12|busy | I'm trying to package a app too :/ | 18:57 |
| mgedmin | unless the package needs some C extension modules | 18:57 |
| mgedmin | lcuk: I'd like to know that too | 18:57 |
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| lcuk | i will be sat in hotel bar with nokia and a big beer | 18:57 |
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| lcuk | or in the toilets practicing my speech | 18:58 |
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| RST38h | "...with a nokia floating in a big beer" | 18:58 |
| qwerty12|busy | lcuk, or escaping out the window :p | 18:58 |
| lcuk | nahhh, im ready for talking to enough folks | 18:59 |
| lcuk | as long as i know what i am gonna say ill be find | 18:59 |
| lcuk | e | 18:59 |
| * lcuk takes a speech synth and an anomymous mask | 18:59 | |
| GAN8001 | Ha | 19:00 |
| t_s_o | ah, found it. it had been hiding in the app manager all along. just had to look up some maemo packages to find them. i really hope the diablo app manager have a button for showing whats new, not just whats updates of whats already installed | 19:03 |
| GAN8001 | Not yet, t_s_o. | 19:03 |
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| qwerty12|busy | w00t! I've made my first python deb!, now I just got to find the shit... | 19:03 |
| lcuk | apt-get install poo | 19:04 |
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| qwerty12|busy | Package poo is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. The new package is called piss. | 19:05 |
| GAN8001 | t_s_o, they're very receptive to enhancement requests, though: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1282 https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3103 | 19:05 |
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| pupnik | lcuk: well we're in the same 'otel | 19:05 |
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| pupnik | wed night i'll be free | 19:06 |
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| pupnik | just got a good recommendation for a thai restaurant for lunch | 19:06 |
| pupnik | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=l&hl=en&geocode=&q=buddha+haus&near=berlin+germany&jsv=113&sll=52.523533,13.41156&sspn=0.154369,0.382462&ie=UTF8&latlng=52486980,13355125,1435183997478949524&ei=At86SOyXH5awoQPAjJTtAg&cd=1 | 19:07 |
| pupnik | near the hotel too | 19:07 |
| pupnik | btw is breakfast included? | 19:07 |
| t_s_o | i take that as will be some day after diablos release, GAN800 | 19:07 |
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| lcuk | pupnik, im not sure, but to maintain my diet and make sure i dont fart all over the stage im not risking any none conventional food during this break | 19:08 |
| pupnik | oki | 19:09 |
| pupnik | i'm bringing food to save on money :| | 19:09 |
| lcuk | im bringing a packed lunch for the outbound journey, damn shame i cant bring a bottle of wine | 19:09 |
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| lcuk | and i gather there will be supermarkets etc to restock up and make for the homeward bound leg | 19:10 |
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| lcuk | budget will be tight for me as well ;) | 19:10 |
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| hrw | http://blog.haerwu.biz/2008/05/26/i-found-nice-thing/ | 19:10 |
| GAN8001 | t_s_o, I'm imagining most of the effort went into working on SSU this time around. | 19:10 |
| lcuk | oh crap, ive borkened komodo edit up | 19:11 |
| qwerty12|busy | hrw, My friends always have them on their usb's in school | 19:12 |
| t_s_o | hmm, whats the task of the multimedia daemon? | 19:12 |
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| * qwerty12 goes to reflash chinook and reinstall diablo | 19:13 | |
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| lardman | what's the best way of meeting up when we get there, as I'm in another hotel? | 19:17 |
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| lardman | email, messenger? | 19:17 |
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| lcuk | lardman, you want my mobile #? | 19:26 |
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| lcuk | do you wanna come over to our hotel since there are more of us there | 19:27 |
| qwerty12 | lardman, when you get the #, post it here so I can do some prank calls :P | 19:27 |
| lcuk | lardman, when you get the number, tell me cos i cant remember it | 19:27 |
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| lcuk | 0785 181 | 19:28 |
| lcuk | qwerty12, you can waste your credit finding the last bit | 19:28 |
| qwerty12 | lol | 19:28 |
| qwerty12 | I'll pass it to my friends, we can all have a go :p | 19:29 |
| lcuk | ok when you find it, let me know which it was | 19:29 |
| qwerty12 | You aren't serious? | 19:29 |
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| lcuk | ;) | 19:30 |
| lcuk | im a technophobe - this phone scares me :P | 19:32 |
| lcuk | who slashdotted artotel website? | 19:32 |
| qwerty12 | lcuk, what are you doing with N810 then :p | 19:33 |
| summatusmentis | lcuk: what phone? | 19:33 |
| lcuk | im joking, its my crappy o2 ice | 19:34 |
| lcuk | and i do know the number (just) | 19:34 |
| lcuk | its strange, i can remember the phone numbers we had at home when i was a child but i have trouble remembering mobile numbers | 19:34 |
| * qwerty12 is happy with w810 & p1i. Probably gonna shott the N80 soon | 19:34 | |
| qwerty12 | lcuk, I gave up trying to remember numbers after my family changed them so much >.< | 19:35 |
| lcuk | i think they are just too long.. | 19:35 |
| summatusmentis | with any luck I'll be getting the moto q and tethering my n810 do it | 19:35 |
| lcuk | DUCT TAPE! | 19:35 |
| summatusmentis | it's possible ;-) | 19:36 |
| lcuk | i taped my camera to an ironing board yesterday | 19:36 |
| lcuk | amongst the strangest thing ive ever done | 19:36 |
| qwerty12 | wtf | 19:36 |
| qwerty12 | www.seelcukironing.com | 19:37 |
| lcuk | ironing board has adjustable height and locks, i needed the camera to point down onto flat surface and be steady so i could take a movie of my 810 and use it at same time | 19:37 |
| qwerty12 | Ah | 19:37 |
| lcuk | anything else i tried it wobbled around and did not stay in focus (using macro zoom to make a movie) | 19:37 |
| t_s_o | :S | 19:38 |
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| mgedmin | I wonder if the wireless at art'otel is free or not | 19:47 |
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| qwerty12 | Any one know a linux program that will extract sisx files? Don't want to reboot into windows :/ | 19:58 |
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| lardman | lcuk: yep that would be useful, do you want to email it to me? | 20:00 |
| lcuk | hmmm, so pm not working.. | 20:00 |
| lcuk | i sent them a few mins back | 20:00 |
| * lardman is trying to correct a paper (deadline today) so not been paying much attention | 20:00 | |
| lardman | pm using what? | 20:01 |
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| dneary | I think I tried once, and ended up reverting because some stuff broke | 20:14 |
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| GAN8001 | Seriously, you get 70 extra megahertz with OS2008. . . . | 20:14 |
| GAN8001 | It's the world's cheapest processor upgrade. | 20:14 |
| lcuk | when? ondemand scheduling keeps it low most of the time ;) | 20:14 |
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| GAN8001 | Quiet, lcuk. | 20:15 |
| GAN8001 | It ramps up when you need it. :\ | 20:15 |
| lcuk | and you cant have it when theres an mp3 playing | 20:15 |
| lcuk | (or anything dsp) | 20:15 |
| GAN8001 | You can if you use a non-stock kernel. | 20:15 |
| lcuk | and i can count those people on one hand ;) | 20:15 |
| GAN8001 | Bull | 20:15 |
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| GAN8001 | There are a significant number of people using fanoush's stuff. | 20:16 |
| lardman | power to the DSP! | 20:17 |
| lardman | who needs a puny ARM processor! | 20:17 |
| lcuk | cap'n she cannae take it, she will blow | 20:17 |
| lardman | hmm, must be the beer talking | 20:17 |
| Cptnodegard | ugh | 20:17 |
| Cptnodegard | bad nickalert | 20:17 |
| * Cptnodegard slaps lcuk around a bit with a large trout | 20:17 | |
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| GAN8001 | lardman, what is the "media engine"? :P | 20:17 |
| lcuk | huh? | 20:18 |
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| lardman | GAN8001: no idea, but iirc that's the closed bit of Canola | 20:20 |
| lcuk | the main program | 20:20 |
| GAN8001 | Well, for playback, it's just gstreamer and/or mplayer | 20:21 |
| GAN8001 | The closed part is basically the candy interface. | 20:21 |
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| GAN8001 | They contributed a ton to open source stuff | 20:22 |
| lcuk | isnt it wrote in python? | 20:22 |
| GAN8001 | lightmediascanner | 20:22 |
| GAN8001 | efl | 20:22 |
| GAN8001 | PyMaemo is all INdT basically | 20:22 |
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| GAN8001 | It is, lcuk. | 20:23 |
| lcuk | then its open source? | 20:23 |
| kulve | Canola uses and contributes (when possible) with the following components : | 20:23 |
| kulve | Atabake as media engine | 20:23 |
| kulve | "Canola is not opensource, but most of it components were built straight in the communities." | 20:23 |
| kulve | http://openbossa.indt.org/canola/developer.html | 20:23 |
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| GAN8001 | The 16bpp engine for evas is basically all the Canola guys. | 20:24 |
| lcuk | can you produce binaries for python now then? | 20:24 |
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| lardman | lcuk: Got phone no and sent mine back | 20:27 |
| lcuk | ok :) | 20:27 |
| lcuk | i just closed everything as well .. | 20:27 |
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| lardman | :) | 20:29 |
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| lopz | hi | 20:41 |
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| jldiaz | any pygame expert here? | 20:59 |
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| disq | ooh new diablo update | 21:02 |
| disq | atabake is the media engine which basically uses osso-media-server (as the default player and kagu) | 21:03 |
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| X-Fade_ | GAN8001: ping? | 21:20 |
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| dneary | GAN8001: Front page was sane again a few hours back | 21:39 |
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| mgedmin | jldiaz: I've used it a bit, although I wouldn't call myself an expert | 21:42 |
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| RST38h | BTW, is it normal for MicroB 1.01 to hang when I enter "about:config"? | 21:44 |
| lardman | not really a hang, just takes forever to update | 21:45 |
| lardman | like ~20min or someusch | 21:46 |
| lardman | somesuch even | 21:46 |
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| RST38h | lardman: urgh | 21:58 |
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| RST38h | lardman: while we are at it, do you by any chance know what makes MicroB hang for about 10-15 seconds on startup? | 21:58 |
| RST38h | [I do have adblocker installed] | 21:59 |
| summatusmentis | that makes me happy to hear RST38h :) That's my favorite part of moz browsing | 22:00 |
| lardman | I don't, and it annoys the hell out of me too :) | 22:00 |
| lardman | we need to talk to timeless about it | 22:00 |
| RST38h | summa: you mean, waiting for 15 seconds is your favorite part? | 22:01 |
| RST38h | so, what is the most hated part then? | 22:01 |
| lardman | for me the way it seems to lockup after rendering (only for a second or two) | 22:02 |
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| lcuk | its the age old problem of squashing a desktop app into a small box ;) | 22:07 |
| lardman | yeah, just makes it a bit frustrating to use | 22:08 |
| lcuk | yer, we will solve it though | 22:08 |
| lardman | I'd be tempted to have it preloaded even to avoid it | 22:08 |
| lcuk | i'd be tempted to see what happens if you started from scratch thinking about a nice fast display ;) | 22:08 |
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| lardman | I think lots of work :) | 22:09 |
| lcuk | some nice none visual web renderer waiting to be plugged into a rapid backend would be nice | 22:09 |
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| khertan | YEAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!! FLASH HAS WORK ON LINUX | 22:09 |
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| lcuk | apparantly, so does caps lock | 22:10 |
| khertan | too :) | 22:10 |
| khertan | just need to find why pdflush break my device now | 22:10 |
| lcuk | :D glad you got past your hangup | 22:10 |
| khertan | i think it s come from swap stored on the internal 2Gb partition | 22:11 |
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| khertan | just need to find how to format it correctly | 22:11 |
| lcuk | yer, ive been thinking about swap | 22:12 |
| lcuk | can i move it somewhere else (like onto my removable card?) | 22:12 |
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| Veggen | lcuk: I guess, but you'd have to do it manually, not through the interface. | 22:14 |
| lardman | lcuk: Are all the maemo talks ~10min jobs? | 22:16 |
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| khertan | about : https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2940 : does a format from the file manager correct this ? | 22:17 |
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| lcuk | lardman, as far as i am aware, we are onstage for about an hour, but the main solo discussion is only 5-10 minutes | 22:20 |
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| khertan | sudo gparted | 22:20 |
| khertan | oups ww | 22:20 |
| dneary | tablet-encode works great | 22:21 |
| khertan | hum ... gparted can't format in fat | 22:23 |
| khertan | strange | 22:23 |
| lardman | lcuk: ok | 22:23 |
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| PHiiil | Hi room.anybody speak french? | 22:28 |
| PHiiil | Private me | 22:29 |
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| khertan | still an other user that haven't understand that not registered user on freenode can't receive pm | 22:31 |
| khertan | :) | 22:31 |
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| PHiiil | Ok i looking for cfdisk for to install it on OS2006 | 22:34 |
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| mysc | hi | 23:02 |
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| tabloid | Hey where i can find a decent irc client for 810 | 23:24 |
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| * keesj wispers ssh+screen+irssi | 23:26 | |
| * elb whispers osso-xterm sucks, so good luck with that | 23:26 | |
| tabloid | And i dont have ux account. Xchat maybe? | 23:27 |
| RST38h | xchat. | 23:28 |
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| RST38h | requires some fiddling on maemo but works ok | 23:28 |
| tabloid | Ok thx will try | 23:29 |
| RST38h | Bush: Arlington cemetery 'watered by silent tears' | 23:29 |
| RST38h | [Dubya still being alive after this statement is another proof God does not exists] | 23:30 |
| RST38h | s/exists/exist/ | 23:30 |
| infobot | RST38h meant: [Dubya still being alive after this statement is another proof God does not exist] | 23:30 |
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| lardman | 7 slides, should be enough | 23:41 |
| lardman | more than enough, especially at the end of the day :) | 23:42 |
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| keesj | if you add a naked women in slide 6 you can push the boundaries | 23:42 |
| qwerty12_n800 | hehe | 23:42 |
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| Cptnodegard | someone rape norwegian cell providers with an axe... free data subscriptions are freaking 100 USD! | 23:42 |
| summatusmentis | umm... that's not free | 23:43 |
| Cptnodegard | lol | 23:43 |
| Cptnodegard | fixed rate then | 23:43 |
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| gnuton | hi there | 23:43 |
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| summatusmentis | w/ any luck, I'll be getting a Sprint SERO plan soon, and getting unlimited data + 500 minutes for $30/mo | 23:44 |
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| kkrusty | someone mentioned a python script using iwlist here yesterday. | 23:48 |
| ssvb | lardman: I managed to map 1.75MB memory shared with DSP on 770 :) but that required editing (extending) EXTMEM7 section in avs_kernelcfg.cmd | 23:49 |
| lardman | ssvb: was there no more space above that section? | 23:49 |
| ssvb | lardman: anything else just rebooted the device | 23:49 |
| lardman | for a completely new section I mean | 23:49 |
| lardman | ah, I see | 23:49 |
| lardman | did you look at the memory map, which I think is in the dspgateway spec pdf | 23:50 |
| lardman | might give an idea of how high the memory mapping can go | 23:50 |
| ssvb | lardman: I did not try adding a completely new section to avs_kernelcfg.cmd though, just tried adding sections to task's own .cmd file | 23:51 |
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| lardman | ssvb: did you extend the memory section in the task's .cmd file? | 23:51 |
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| sirgt | Hi, anyone have had the problem with the n800 that doesn't turn on and looks like is reseting continiusly? | 23:52 |
| ssvb | lardman: no, I had to edit global .cmd file | 23:53 |
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| lardman | ssvb: ok, didn't think it was possible to override - just checking | 23:53 |
| ssvb | lardman: maybe some better solution exists | 23:53 |
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| lardman | ssvb: would it not extend to 0x200000 bytes? | 23:53 |
| lardman | I'm surprised that you got 1.75Mb, which indicates the limit is memory related rather than TLB related | 23:54 |
| lardman | s/Mb/MB | 23:54 |
| ssvb | lardman: this looks like some kind of bug in the kernel | 23:54 |
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| ssvb | lardman: maybe it crashes when it tries to span section over 3 TLB entries, have no idea | 23:55 |
| lardman | ssvb: ah ok, I'll have a look at it next week | 23:55 |
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| ssvb | lardman: 1.75MB is what seems to work more or less reliable, but that is barely enough (if it is even enough) | 23:55 |
| lardman | ssvb: not ideal then | 23:56 |
| lcuk | lardman, can you make 2 adjacent mappings? | 23:56 |
| lardman | ssvb: but still you can do some testing using smaller frames | 23:56 |
| lcuk | or 3 - one for each plane | 23:56 |
| lardman | one ought to be able to map up to whatever the limit is | 23:57 |
| ssvb | lardman: sure I can, but the final goal is to play VGA video, lower resolution is not so interesting :) | 23:57 |
| lardman | and I was told it's 16Mb | 23:57 |
| lardman | MB even | 23:57 |
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| lcuk | sirgt, sounds like it needs reflashing (only reasonable recovery option, but normal procedure) if its new to you and the data is unimportant, just follow the instructions on the nokia site | 23:59 |
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