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wom-_everyone is leaving.. maybe its because of easter holidays00:04
KotCzarny..or my bad breath00:05
CrashandDieyeah, I'll take the second option00:05
CrashandDieAnyway, anyone here uses the n810 with the usb in host setting ?00:05
CrashandDieJaffa, what cable do you use ? The stock one ? With a fem-fem adaptor ?00:06
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Mouseyapt-cache search squid01:16
KotCzarnyirc: command not found01:17
MouseyHEY!! you're not a shell prompt!01:17
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* lcuk_2 should be out drinking02:33
GeneralAntillesBut you aren't, are you?02:34
lcuk_2i cant even drink at home tonight02:34
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lcuk_2epic fail :(02:34
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GeneralAntillesShe's mostly just depressing.02:35
lcuk_2she says i can has cake though02:36
KotCzarny2grls1cake ?02:36
* GeneralAntilles curls up in a fetal position and starts muttering something about a lie.02:36
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lcuk_2lol kot fortunately not02:37
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KotCzarnytalking about cake made me hungry02:37
lcuk_2then go eat02:38
lcuk_2or are you still asleep like before?02:38
KotCzarnyi have had a shower02:39
KotCzarnyi have to cool down a little02:39
lcuk_2where abouts r u?02:39
KotCzarnywestern mnh02:39
lcuk_2now i dont know whether thats a state or just a keybash02:40
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KotCzarnyif you treat manhattan as a state02:40
lcuk_2not really its just you americans abreviate everything :P02:41
* KotCzarny not american02:41
lcuk_2livin in tho02:41
* KotCzarny is me02:41
KotCzarnyi live in the internet02:41
MouseyLIVE, from the INTERNET!!02:41
MouseyIt's KotCzarny!!!!!!!!!!102:41
lcuk_2what timezone does your body clock work to then?02:41
lcuk_2sometimes i feel like mine is mid atlantic02:41
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lcuk_2are you like an old abandoned server wired up and bricked in at a disused warehouse02:42
KotCzarnymore like a vagabond02:42
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lcuk_2"scuse me, spare some bandwidth?"02:43
* KotCzarny dries02:45
lcuk_2you been busy tonight or just winding down02:46
KotCzarnyjust a thursday's shower02:46
lcuk_2is a thursday shower different to a shower on a different day?02:48
KotCzarnybecause it's thursday and not ie. monday02:48
lcuk_2right, im vanishing - i have a damsel who needs me (then i can drink later)02:50
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KotCzarnyis there maemo mapper equivalent for linux?03:26
jottKotCzarny: i guess maemo mapper should work with very few modifications03:26
jottother than that google earth ;P03:27
KotCzarnywill it compile without hildon related libs?03:27
jottwell either strip those or install hildon libs03:27
KotCzarnythat will i do03:27
KotCzarnybut i wanted to know if there's ready solution03:27
KotCzarnybtw. have you seen kcbatt 0.2.4?03:28
jottnot yet .)03:28
KotCzarnyneed.. feed.. backs...03:28
jottgoogle earth is "ready" :)03:28
KotCzarnyggoogle earth has caching feature?03:28
KotCzarnyto browse world offline?03:29
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jottthey also have to pay the bandwidth ;)03:29
pupnikit does cache, but can you run program offline?03:29
jottgood question.. :)03:29
KotCzarny  --enable-legacy         Enable building for Chinook03:31
KotCzarnychinook is legacy?03:31
jottwell pure gtk would be more compatible ;p03:31
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NeoStrider_hey folks03:34
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pupnikwb NeoStrider_03:37
KotCzarnyi can't even run properly.03:38
NeoStrider_whats up pupnik03:38
pupnikdid you see wz2100 yet?03:38 I oficially finished Angstron03:38
NeoStrider_now its beta product03:38
NeoStrider_wanna try?03:38
KotCzarnywhat's that?03:38
NeoStrider_not yyet03:38
NeoStrider_I need to upload it03:38
pupnik  3D game, 800x48003:39
KotCzarnyis it turn based or rts?03:39
KotCzarnyah. rts.03:40
NeoStrider_now I feel bad03:40
KotCzarnyi prefer turn based games03:40
NeoStrider_but works with 770?03:40
KotCzarnyespecially if controls are clumsy (like on tablet)03:40
pupniki will have to test on 770 someday03:41
KotCzarnybut nice03:41
NeoStrider_and your games?03:41
pupniki don't write any03:41
pupnikmany new ports NeoStrider_03:41
NeoStrider_anything for EeePC?03:42
KotCzarnygnome. argh.03:42
NeoStrider_actually, IceWM03:43
NeoStrider_I dont like it either03:43
NeoStrider_I would love to use Matchbox( or even maemo desktop!) or FluxBox on it03:43
KotCzarnyneostrider: i'm trying to compile maemo mapper on my laptop03:43
NeoStrider_on a EeePC?03:44
KotCzarnynope. on ibm x3203:44
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nwidgerso how come even after i put the right directory in fbreader to look for my books and check off the look in subdirectories option, fbreader doesnt add all the books in that directory to my library?  isnt it supposed to be automatic?03:45
KotCzarnybecause media libraries suck.03:45
KotCzarnywhat's wrong with 'show me my dir and open this file'03:46
lcuk_2nwidger, i noticed fb wasnt adding books for ages then magically it added my entire tree03:46
* KotCzarny grumbles03:46
lcuk_2i was reading one at a time03:46
* NeoStrider_ is uploading angstron to geocities03:46
lcddthe concept of directories is confusing to users these days03:46
lcuk_2but the interface to the library sucks ass more than a donkey with a fetish03:46
nwidgerlcuk_2: well that's encouraging :/03:46
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lcuk_2just open a single book at a time - at least you only need to do it once every couple of days03:47
KotCzarnyi think i'll pass maemo mapper. :/03:47
lcuk_2and it does remember your base path03:47
KotCzarnynow it needs gconf03:47
nwidgerwell thanks anyways03:47
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* lcuk_2 is v close to the day he can drop fbreader03:48
nwidgerfor what instead?03:48
lcuk_2no one else will be able to because they all read none standard files ;)03:48
KotCzarnylcuk: if you throw in good file browser i'm in03:48
lcuk_2ive been working on a flat text reader with scrolly text03:48
nwidgerah cool03:48
nwidgerfor maemo?03:49
lcuk_2and without the quirks fbreader has03:49
KotCzarnylcuk, poppler?03:49
GeneralAntillesFBReader's library isn't that important.03:49
lcuk_2i hate the touch interface for paging it is sluggish and repeats and is screwed03:49
GeneralAntillesThe meta data is wrong for 90% of them anyway03:49
GeneralAntillesso adding them by hand is basically a must.03:49
lcuk_2a library is only as good as the input03:49
KotCzarnylcuk, i believe getting some formats other than txt is possible?03:50
lcuk_2i have no meta data with my books :) i dont think i have anything apart from  txt lying around03:50
KotCzarnyas a modules etc?03:50
lcuk_2ahhh - actually i have one isolo file of snowcrash03:50
lcuk_2but then i saw all the crap and upgraded everything to ascii03:50
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NeoStrider_I cant seem to upload it anywhere03:50
GeneralAntillesThe important part of FBReader is the text reading, which it does just fine.03:51
lcuk_2it doesnt03:51
lcuk_2with a big book it takes 1-2seconds to page backwards03:51
lcuk_2so you press again and again03:51
lcuk_2but then you end up going multiple pages03:51
GeneralAntillesMeh, you page once every 1-2 minutes.03:51
GeneralAntillesand (for me) only in one direction.03:51
lcuk_2but with the touch interface being touchy it moves foreward multiple pages with a single tap03:52
lcuk_2so you have to go backwards03:52
GeneralAntillesMeh, that's why I use the hardware buttons.03:52
NeoStrider_god save Nokia Mosh!03:52
lcuk_2i do as well but sometimes i catch it03:52
lcuk_2on my 810 as well i am gonna be configuring half the qwertasdfzxcv keys as page back, and the other half page foreward03:53
KotCzarnynow it need orbit lib03:53
lcuk_2GeneralAntilles, i remember being able to drift off to sleep on my old pda with scrolling text autoreading :)03:55
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lcuk_2it was bliss03:55
lcuk_2liqreader at fullscreen now does it03:55
GeneralAntillesI wouldn't remember anything I read a few minutes before that03:56
GeneralAntillesand then it autoscrolls to the end up the book while I'm sleeping?03:56
GeneralAntillesruns out the battery and leaves me without a bookmark?03:56
lcuk_2but im tethered in bed - and my old one had a dock03:56
lcuk_2i still havent got the wifi to stay disconnected so it needs tethering03:57
lcuk_2its set to ask but i wake up and its come back to life03:57
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NeoStrider_here is it, folks:04:00
GeneralAntillesCanola b7 is out with YouTube plugin.04:01
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pupnikwhat is changelog NeoStrider_ ?04:04
NeoStrider_got a menu system04:05
NeoStrider_better rendering speed (I hope so)04:05
NeoStrider_better memory management04:05
NeoStrider_some sound04:05
NeoStrider_more levels04:05
NeoStrider_finished product04:05
NeoStrider_its only a matter of killing the bugs04:06
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MegaTrousersDoes anyone know how to get networking working in the Maemo SDK VMWare Appliance? I boot up the image and fiddle with the VM network settings, but it cannot seem to find its own eth0 interface.04:10
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lcuk_2mega, on mine i thought it was broken inside but it was my vmware network devices within windows that had been firewalled and it wasnt connecting through04:12
MegaTrouserslcuk_2: but my other images work with same settings?04:13
NeoStrider_c ya fellows04:13
NeoStrider_later on, please let me know of any bug04:14
NeoStrider_you all can report it at http://corporatedrones.wordpress.com04:14
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lcuk_2are you using the scratchbox console to do testing or are you using the main console04:15
GeneralAntillesDoes anybody know how to change the apt timeout?04:15
MegaTrouserslcuk_2: main console04:16
lcuk_2oooer then i dunno - ive just heard about problems trying from within sb04:16
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monkeyiqWhere does one find mkfs.jffs2 for n810/maemo?04:24
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ywwgI've got a deb package that requires some python packages, like python2.5-dbus.  Shouldn't the application manager pull in these dependencies?  It isn't.  apt-get does, however.04:24
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pupnik-> -> ->05:27
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NaviYoutube plugin for canola \o/05:35
Naviuses internal flash to store videos \o/05:35
* Navi is out of internal flash space05:35
pupnikha ha ha05:37
pupniksymlink to mmc then05:37
NaviI was going to05:37
Navibut i'm lazy >_>05:38
oilinkiwhat do you download from youtube?05:38
oilinkiI'm just looking at some random funny clips people paste to irc05:39
NaviI'm just watchin' teh videos05:39
oilinkibut I guess people use it for other things as well?05:39
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oilinkione reason could be that it takes way too long to download videos from youtube to thailand05:40
NaviAnd I need it to compete with my iPod Touch toting friends05:40
oilinkieg. if it's not really funny, I'd rather don't even try to download05:41
NaviI don't save youtube videos >_>05:41
NaviCanola's gotta cache the video somewhere though05:41
oilinkiI don't neither.. but need to open an separate tab on ff to fill the buffer :)05:42
oilinkijust nice to hear how people use services in a different way05:44
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NaviI just watch it :/05:44
pupnikI tell them "well maybe youll find yourself one day in a lake of fire, in a rowboat, with one good oar saying 'I shouldn't have supported closed-firmware vendorrrs....'"05:45
NaviThey _all_ don't like the iPhone though ^_^05:46
Navi"What the hell? Why would I want to use a phone with only one button?"05:47
KotCzarnyerm, isn't whole x86 pc business closed firmware ?05:47
GeneralAntillesIt's got 4 buttons05:47
GeneralAntillesand a switch05:47
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Proteousit's got a compass in the stock and this thing that tells time05:54
KotCzarnycompass that tells time?05:54
Proteouswhen is canola2 on the 770 going to support UPNP?05:55
* Proteous cries05:55
GeneralAntillesWhen is Canola2 gonna support UPnP period?05:56
k-swhen it's good enough, and it's not05:59
k-sadding it now would be adding more problems05:59
k-slet's get what we have right, then add this, so you can complain and we can fix :-)05:59
k-suntil then you can help by fixing brisa06:00
* pupnik googles brisa06:01
k-spupnik: just search in garage.maemo.org06:01
Navi'ey, it's k-s06:02
Navithought all the Canola guys left :o06:02
* Proteous cries06:03
KotCzarnyi can cry too.06:03
* Navi gives Proteous a hug06:03
Proteoussure sure06:03
pupnikis it your party?06:03
* KotCzarny starts thinking that hildon is there to take over the workld.06:03
k-salso, youtube is released, you can use it to write support for more data acquisition, maybe using Coherence?06:03
KotCzarnyanyone tried to backport maemo app to normal one?06:03
KotCzarnyit's evil.06:04
pupnikbackport sounds dirty06:04
Proteousno, not in the backport, please06:04
* KotCzarny pushes undefined reference to `hildon_banner_show_information_with_markup' right up into proteous06:05
Proteousdon't be trying to climb out of the gutter, I'll just step on your fingers06:05
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Proteousdamn +GMTers06:20
Proteousalways gmornin in the evenin06:20
KotCzarnyevening? it's midnifgt already06:20
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Proteoussure sure06:24
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Italodanceummm Media Converter06:59
Italodancecan only convert to mp4?06:59
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NaviYou know what we need? Tamagotchis on our N8X0s08:17
Stskeepsprolly easily portable from some crap open source implementaton :P08:18
NaviThe problem lies in which crappy OS implementation is the best08:19
Proteousmine always die :/08:19
GeneralAntillesYou're a terrible person.08:20
NaviI mean, so far, I can only find ktamaga08:20
GeneralAntillesYou know there's a zoo in Japan where they kill a real kitten for every Tamagotchis that dies?08:20
* Proteous cries08:21
NaviWho cares about the kittens? He fucking lets his tamagotchis die08:21
KotCzarnyThe KDE-Tamagotchi-emulator08:22
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NaviSo, the friend that I warned not to get an N-Gage got an N-Gage08:23
Naviwhat a 'tard08:23
BTobotrasNavi: you're just jealous08:23
KotCzarnyhe may be happy08:23
KotCzarnyit has worms08:24
NaviI owned the original N-Gage08:24
Naviside talkin' ftw08:24
KotCzarnycan be used as a cheap smartphone08:24
unixSnobwhat can be used as a cheap smartphone?08:26
KotCzarnyN-Gage is a made-for-mobile games service available in compatible Nokia Nseries and other S60 3rd Edition devices from Nokia.08:27
KotCzarnyso i guess original n-gage is out of question08:27
unixSnobI know someone who just bought a vx6800 or something like that, and he's been quite frustrated because most sites that require a login won't work for him08:28
unixSnobI'd like to know what to recommend to him.. aside from trying Opera Mobile08:29
KotCzarnymaybe dell?08:29
GeneralAntillesAn N800?08:29
KotCzarnyis there hildon/oss lib for x86-linux ?08:30
unixSnobAn N800 would work.. but then he has to come up with an internet connection.  I think he doesn't want to carry more than one device for this08:30
unixSnobI was going from memory.. it may be xv8600.. who knows what digits I transposed08:31
GeneralAntillesVX6800 + N80008:31
unixSnobSo the question is, will the vx6800 bridge it's uplink over wifi?08:32
unixSnobOr would he need a cable?08:32
unixSnobIt runs on WM608:33
KotCzarnymaybe some kind of proxy?08:33
GeneralAntillesOpera 9.5 will probably help, though.08:33
KotCzarnyin case wm6 doesn't have ip forwarding08:33
unixSnobWM6 is something I've personally avoided.. so I don't know much about its capabilities.08:33
GeneralAntillesIt supports PAN.08:33
unixSnobYeah, I think his next step is to try Opera Mobile 8.65.  Not sure if 9.5 will go on WM608:34
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KotCzarnyunixsnob: i wonder if there's firefox2/3 for wm :>08:35
unixSnobwhat exactly is PAN?  I have trouble keeping all the tethering options straight08:35
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KotCzarnyMozilla has announced that Mobile Firefox will debut on Nokia 800 devices and those running Windows Mobile 6.08:35
GeneralAntillesPersonal Area Network08:36
GeneralAntillesIt's like adhoc wifi for Bluetooth.08:36
GeneralAntillesExcept "personal"08:36
GeneralAntillesLot less overhead than DUN.08:36
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unixSnobinteresting.. I would certainly recommend BT over wifi if he can get away w/ it08:37
unixSnob(for power reasons)08:37
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GeneralAntillesI thought Opera 9.5 was out.08:39
GeneralAntillesGuess not.08:39
Navinot yet08:39
Navistill beta08:39
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KotCzarnynight ppl08:41
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christefanoKotCzarny: do you have a link for that?08:47
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ItalodanceMedia Converter can only convert to mp4?09:23
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aquatixmorning all09:51
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carp3Hi guys. some told me that Max Payne 2 it going to port to Maemo .. is it true ?09:55
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Tama^2it's coming out with duke nukem forever09:57
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Italodancehi Tama^209:57
Italodancehow are ya?09:58
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GeneralAntillesFunny man, that carp3. :\09:58
Tama^2Hi, good thanks09:58
ItalodanceTama^2 Media Converter can only convert to mp4?09:58
Tama^2I have no experience with Media COnverter09:58
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ItalodanceTama^2 pm10:16
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pupnikhappy easter10:28
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keesjpupnik: what is funny/interesting about the picture?10:33
pupniknothing funny10:34
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keesjit spreads fear10:38
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Italodancei need mplayer 25 all package  can someone send me please?10:46
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pupnikkeesj you live in a democracy.  exercise your responsibility10:57
keesjI am not sure what that would be , I guess letting people speak?10:58
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pupnikand the dead are silent10:59
pupnikunless we speak for them10:59
keesjI live in a country where you are not allowed to have some ideas11:00
pupnikme too11:00
keesj we have 200.000 people working so that people don's get "terorestic ideas"11:03
GeneralAntillesWho doesn't?11:03
keesjbut they really make commercials about it.11:04
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aquatixkeesj: yeah, still not sure what to think of those11:05
unique311200,000 is not that much11:06
unique311probably have that alone in a section of brooklyn11:06
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keesjthe duch population is about 16 Million people11:07
aquatixso that's 1.25% of the population doing active anti-terrorist work11:08
aquatixi think that's quite significant11:08
aquatixand i'm not sure it's needed11:08
Tama^2come on guys do you really think there are 200K people working full time in antiterrorism for real?11:09
* aquatix hates to be in a train when all traffic is suspended because they find some suspicious bag11:09
Tama^2lame propaganda is well... propaganda11:09
aquatixwhich turned out to be empty or full of dirty clothes11:09
aquatixbut i don't like the signal they give11:09
unique311aquatix, where are you from?11:10
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aquatixthe netherlands11:10
keesjaquatix: dan not liever de lucht in?11:10
keesjpupnik: where are you from?11:10
aquatixkeesj: nee, maar hoe groot is de kans :)11:10
unique311do they random;y search bags there?11:10
aquatixkeesj: my point is, why terrorise your own people?11:10
aquatixlike the government and airports in the US do11:11
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unique311they do in the subways in NYC11:11
GeneralAntillesThat freaks me out11:11
GeneralAntillesI couldn't imagine putting up with that.11:11
aquatixunique311: no, but they get all freaked out when some student forgets his empty sports bag in the train11:11
GeneralAntillesOr worse, being in the UK with cameras everywhere.11:11
unique311i'm not mad it it.11:11
aquatixGeneralAntilles: yeah11:11
GeneralAntillesThat's just totally unfathomable to me.11:12
aquatixthere are quite some cameras here too11:12
unique311i don't want to be an innocent victim of terrorism.11:12
unique311if searching has to be done to stop it somewhat...11:12
czrnone of us is innocent.11:12
unique311so be it11:12
aquatixunique311: of course not11:12
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aquatixbut i want some privacy and respect too11:12
unique311i want to live.11:12
aquatixand my definition of living is `like i want'11:13
unique311i'll take a little privacy and such11:13
GeneralAntillesI'd rather face the danger of a little terrorism than give up freedoms.11:13
aquatixalive, and unhassled11:13
aquatixGeneralAntilles: can't agree more11:13
GeneralAntillesand, honestly, aside from the philosophical issues, you're kidding yourself if you think the searches they do in subways, courthouses, airports, etc, etc are actually doing anything.11:13
GeneralAntillesIt's a joke11:13
GeneralAntillesThey're just there to give you the perception of security11:14
GeneralAntilleswithout actually providing any of it.11:14
Tama^2theater of security they call it11:14
czrindeed. but most people are happy enough to perceive it.11:14
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aquatixthere has been countless of people and journalists that have investigated and proven them wrong on the account of those searching being functional11:14
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aquatixhell, there was some journalist here in the NL that could walk around at our largest airport unbothered and put a fake bomb inside the cargo storage of a plane11:15
aquatixand smuggle drugs if he wanted11:15
aquatixhe even filmed it11:15
aquatixyour cavety is searched better than the people working on your plane ;)11:16
unique311myabe the NL is proviling certain individuals.11:16
GeneralAntillesczr, most people are stupid. ;)11:16
aquatixGeneralAntilles: fact11:16
czrGeneralAntilles, yeah, but democracy and all.11:16
pupnikkeesj: i landed on the wrong planet11:17
ItalodanceThe MythTV software supports TV tuner??????????????????????????????11:17
aquatixItalodance: that's sort of the idea of it yeah11:18
aquatixbeing a TV thingee11:18
aquatixand all11:19
unique31118 million in NY, half of that 18M living in NYC...wow11:19
aquatixyeah, agglomerate Paris has some 18 million people too iirc11:21
aquatixah no, only 12 million11:21
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keesjO no , I am having wrong ideas11:24
* czr spanks keesj11:24
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Italodancehi unique31111:40
Italodanceyeah aquatix  good idea11:40
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Italodancemaemo plugin is for what?11:45
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GeneralAntillesStop depressing me pupnik. <_<11:50
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Italodancestop spamming pupnik11:54
GeneralAntillesOh the irony!11:54
pupniksorry GeneralAntilles12:04
pupniki just love the pic12:04
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pupnikher chances of survival are not good12:07
aquatixyeah, quite the pic to love12:07
Italodancei am u living to near of iraq!12:08
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aquatixi can has some of that cheezburger?12:09
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Italodanceaquatix Media Converter can only convert to mp4?12:13
Italodancewhat's ur converter?12:14
aquatixis that some program you got on the cdrom with the n800?12:14
aquatixi use ffmpeg12:14
aquatixor mencoder12:14
Italodanceffmpeg for n800?12:14
aquatixffmpeg on my laptop12:15
Italodanceno it is a video converter for n80012:15
aquatixi can create most media types with it12:15
aquatixyeah, it's for the n800 too indeed12:15
Italodancei want to know which is the best video converter for n800?12:15
rm_you_hrm... where do I add a mimetype thingy? (so I can doubleclick a filetype in the file manager and have it open)?12:17
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aquatixyou mean to convert movies you want to play on the n800, or for converting a movie on the n800 itself?12:17
rm_youah hey Italodance12:17
Italodanceyes exactly12:17
BabelOItalodance: avidemux on linux and POcketDivxEncoder on windows are easy to use12:17
Italodanceoh hi rm_you welcome back dear friend :D12:18
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Italodance yes...12:18
rm_youI wish explaining how to use tablet-encode was easier :/12:18
GeneralAntillesrm_you, there's a thread on ITT.12:18
rm_younote: I had Italodance install ActivePERL the other day... so... one step down :P12:18
Italodancerm_you i have a problem i just added my original divx movie (without any convert) to my n80012:19
rm_youGeneralAntilles: kk, figured as much. just wanted to make sure my wording was accurate :P12:19
Italodancei use mplayer for watch it but it is sometimes slow on somewhere  why?12:19
aquatixItalodance: it's slow because the n800 is too slow to decode it in real time?12:20
aquatixthe movie is too big i guess12:20
Italodanceyes video is 700mb 600*340 screen 23 fbs12:20
BabelOItalodance: did you try to play these movie on a PII 400Mhz ?, video bit rate is to high12:20
ItalodanceBabelO it's ok on my pc only for will be slow on some screens...12:21
GeneralAntillesDon't excede 600px horizontal12:21
GeneralAntillesBelow 540 is recommended12:21
GeneralAntillesless for 4:3 stuff.12:22
GeneralAntillesand stick somewhere in the 500-1200Kbps range12:22
Italodancerm_you maybe my mplayer has problem? it is mplayer 24 and can't read mp4 files too! :(12:22
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Italodancerm_you can u send me all package files for mplayer 25?12:22
rm_youItalodance: no, it is the way the files are encoded12:22
rm_youyour mplayer is fine12:23
Italodanceso is there any solution for fix it?12:24
aquatixItalodance: transcode it on your pc to a movie with a smaller size12:24
Italodancei don't want to use video converter for movie files just copy and paste them to my mmc212:24
Italodancebut i heard ( mplayer 24 has many problems!12:25
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rm_youit doesn't really...12:26
rm_youItalodance: you really need to re-encode your video files so they are smaller12:27
Italodancerm_you possible can u send me all package files for mplayer i have an old problem now!12:27
rm_youand use xvid codec12:27
rm_youItalodance: I am still using mplayer-2412:27
rm_youit works *fine*12:27
Italodancexvid codec? only this tool and it's useful?12:28
Italodancerm_you mplayer-24 can't read mp4 files   can u?12:28
rm_youi'm sorry, I think we have some sort of communication issue (possibly language related)12:28
rm_youI'll try to rephrase instead of just repeating the same thing12:28
rm_youMplayer-24 is good.12:29
rm_youMP4 is slow12:29
rm_youUse xvid.12:29
Italodanceso i use xvid codec for re-encode12:29
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rm_you600x340 is bad. 400x### is good.12:30
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rm_you600 is the horizontal resolution of the video you have12:30
rm_youYou don't want to go over 500... the best to use is 40012:31
Italodance400x240 is the best but after convery the quality will drop12:31
rm_younot really12:31
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rm_youIs there a Bitrate option?12:31
Italodanceso tell me what is the best converter for n800? as ur opinion?12:31
rm_youIf so, turn that up to 1000-140012:31
rm_youbut it is tricky to use in windows12:32
Italodancerm_you yes Bitrate option is available12:32
rm_youCodec: Xvid. Bitrate: 1200. Resolution: 400x###12:32
rm_youThat will look nice and play very nicely as well12:32
GeneralAntillesJust use the IT Converter from Nokia.12:33
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Italodancei use internet tablet video converter / Xilisoft Video Converter / n800 video convert12:33
GeneralAntillesSaves you any thinking.12:33
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rm_youGeneralAntilles: that's what he's been using... which is causing problems :/12:33
Italodanceyes i am testing many tools for my n80012:33
Italodance internet tablet video converter = the best for divx/xvid12:34
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ItalodanceXilisoft Video Converter = the best for h263 h264 720p12:34
Italodancen800 video convert = shit!12:34
GeneralAntillesMedia Converter is the Java thing.12:35
GeneralAntillesNot the Nokia one.12:35
Italodanceand i don't use Media Converter yet12:35
Italodancei know it but ur results are good from Media Converter?12:36
Italodancei have Internet Tablet Video Converter read up (internet tablet video converter = the best for divx/xvid )12:36
Italodancei still looking for the best!12:37
Italodancerm_you maybe is good for re-encode12:38
GeneralAntillesThe best is tablet-encode.12:39
Italodancetablet-encode is it for win?12:40
Italodancethe best from  tablet-encode:    best     => { abitrate => 192, vbitrate => 768, width => 400, height => 240, fps => 30 },12:44
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Italodancevbitrate => 76 fps => 30 },?12:46
rm_youi use:     n800    => { abitrate => 128, vbitrate => 1400, width => 400, height => 240, fps => 30 },12:46
Italodancethat's cool i use it now...12:46
rm_youcould probably make that:12:46
rm_you     n800    => { abitrate => 192, vbitrate => 1400, width => 400, height => 240, fps => 30 },12:46
rm_youi set the audio really low for some reason >_>12:47
rm_youdunno why12:47
aquatixrm_you: crappy earbuds? ;)12:47
rm_youactually no :P12:47
aquatixheh, then it's weird12:47
rm_youmore like crappy thought process12:47
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Italodanceaquatix what's ur mplayer?12:49
aquatixItalodance: you mean which version?12:49
* aquatix looks12:50
Italodancesorry but possible can u send me all ur mplayer 26 files?12:50
Italodancethe package12:50
keesjItalodance: don't start again please12:50
aquatixi have 1.0rc1-maemo.24.n8x0 :)12:51
Italodanceok sorry12:51
aquatixand sorry, i'm too busy to get all those files12:51
Italodanceaha it can't read mp4 files12:51
aquatixget some internet on your tablet ;)12:51
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Italodancei have 24 too12:51
rm_youItalodance: why are you asking us for the deb file?12:51
Italodancei only download 25 deb file for update but it said unable to update why?12:51
rm_youjust download it from the site like a normal person :P12:52
rm_youItalodance: install .24 then .25?12:52
rm_youi thought .25 was beta12:52
rm_youanyway, STOP OBSESSING! there is virtually no difference between .24 and .2512:52
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rm_you(as far as you are concerned)12:52
Italodancerm_you yes i download 25 deb file but the application manager said unable to update why?12:53
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rm_youItalodance: I don't know, and *it doesn't matter*12:53
Italodancerm_you no 24 is crap!?12:53
rm_youpretend .25 doesn't exist12:53
rm_youIf you keep saying that I'm just going to stop talking to you.12:53
Italodanceonce again       mplayer 26 is exist too12:53
* rm_you sighs12:54
Italodancecrap 24:12:54
Italodance* Fixed issue #2091 ('nokia770 video driver does not get enabled on N810')12:54
Italodance* Fixed issue #1962 ('mp4(divx) playing VERY slowly with MPlayer 1.0rc1-maemo.24.n8x0')12:54
Italodancerm_you sorry :(12:54
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rm_youyou have an n800... so the first doesn't matter12:55
rm_youthe second might be relevent, but even if it is, xvid files *will* play faster because the codec is less CPU heavy12:55
rm_youso it doesn't matter12:55
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rm_youAnyway, I need to head to Austin now... So i'll be back on Sunday.13:00
rm_youItalodance: sorry I snapped at you... i've been up for close to 24 hours so i get extra frustrated when I have to repeat things :(13:01
rm_youanyways, good luck with that13:01
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* rm_you|Austin feels less tired13:03
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lcukcya later have a good trip13:03
pupniksee ya next fall!13:03
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lcukmornin pup13:04
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Italodanceumm 512*280  can read on n800?13:09
Italodanceok m_you|Austin good luck and have a nice day13:09
SpakmanI think I'm going blind - how do I upload HTML files to my Garage project home page?13:10
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kulveSpakman: commit them to www subdirectory in SVN13:25
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Spakmankulve: is there a way to do it if I don't use the Garage VCS?13:31
kulveProbably not, but I don't know for sure13:32
Spakmancool - thanks :)13:32
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Italodance512 x 288 can play on mplayer without any problem?14:52
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Cptnodegarddepends on the bitrate14:53
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trickieItalodance: i believe rm_you|Austin gave you some useful information about the dimensions15:00
trickiemaybe read over it again15:00
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nil__hi!, can someone tell me how can i load a new IAP profiles (/var/lib/gconf/system/osso/connectivity/IAP/$ESSID/%gconf.xml) without restart nokia device??15:21
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ItalodanceHD 512x288 25.00fps is working very good on my mplayer!15:46
Italodancei think bluray encode too15:46
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keesjso , can someone tell me if where I can find easter eggs?16:09
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X-Fade_keesj: I hope it is 3D support ;)16:10
||cwum, 512x288 is not HD16:11
||cw???x720 or better is HD16:11
keesjwasn't 3D reserved for 1 april?16:12
||cwspeaking of technicalities, the FCC modified their definition, "broadband" now has to be 786kbps or faster16:12
||cwup from 200k16:12
AStormso my current connection isn't one anymore?16:13
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ccookeDamn! n810 has got into a white Nokia screen loop - won't turn on.16:18
X-Fade_ccooke: Did you upgrade your device to the newest firmware yet?16:19
ccookeX-Fade_: as soon as it came out16:19
X-Fade_ccooke: Hmm, I was hoping it was the bootloader bug..16:20
ccookeI just swapped batteries with my wife, since I'm heading out into town and she isn't.16:20
ccooke(and I forgot to charge last night)16:20
X-Fade_So it can be that the battery is just empty?16:21
X-Fade_Or did you test that one before you left? :)16:21
ccookethe battery I swapped *out* was nearly empty16:21
ccookethe battery I swapped *in* is full - she was using it at the time and it had been charging all night16:22
AStormtime to reflash16:22
X-Fade_I suppose you don't have a charger handy?16:22
ccookeX-Fade_: handy, sure. Outside the house? Er. No.16:22
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ccookeIs there any way to get a diagnostic screen up on the device?16:23
X-Fade_Well, I wanted to test if it did boot up automatically when the charger was connected..16:23
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AStormmaybe your flash got corrupted?16:25
X-Fade_ccooke: So you do see the Nokia logo and then it turns off?16:25
ccookeMy thought is that one of the flash drives needs to be fsckd16:25
ccookeX-Fade_: yes.16:25
X-Fade_But not the progress bar?16:26
X-Fade_Try holding the power button longer.16:26
GeneralAntillesccooke, do you have autoconnect on and ssh installed?16:27
ccookenever heard of autoconnect, but ssh is installed16:28
X-Fade_GeneralAntilles: It won't go past the bootloader.16:28
ccookeAh! progress bar16:28
ccookeHow odd!16:28
ccookeHmm. I think I understand.16:28
X-Fade_ccooke: You need to hold the powerbutton longer sometimes..16:28
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GeneralAntilles1.5 seconds16:29
ccookeX-Fade_: ... Longer than ten seconds?16:29
X-Fade_ccooke: No, that is enough ;)16:29
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ccookein this case, it seemed to only boot when it had external power.16:29
ccookeMaybe some "you've inserted a new battery" check...16:29
X-Fade_Cord: Sounds a lot like the bootloader problem..16:30
X-Fade_ehm ccook..16:30
ccookeThanks for the advice...16:30
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ccookeX-Fade_: I never had the bootloader problem, so I didn't pay much attention - what is it?16:31
X-Fade_ccooke: Device won't turn on ;)16:31
GeneralAntillesThere was no response AT ALL with that bug, though.16:31
X-Fade_GeneralAntilles: indeed, but sometimes connecting a charger helped.16:32
GeneralAntillesSure, but if it's turning the backlight on, then it's not the NOLO bug.16:33
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f_mohris there a way to sync the n810 address book with a 6120?16:58
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MangoFusionf_mohr: what you do is this17:05
MangoFusionopen the address book on your 6210 and n81017:05
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MangoFusionfor each address on your 6210, examine the details and enter them on your n81017:05
MangoFusionsee, simple :)17:05
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darx_hi, can i set the canola youtube plugin to stream the higher quality streams from youtube?17:07
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edistarhi, anyone here tried to build anstrom for nokia770? I wonder how I can create my own initramfs17:08
MangoFusiondarx_: i've been wondering that as well. seems like it downloads them, right?17:09
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MangoFusionwait, no - it's streaming this other one17:11
darx_MangoFusion: it streams17:11
MangoFusionmust have been a dodgy video before17:12
darx_youtube has recently started streaming higher quality vids recently17:12
MangoFusionah i see17:12
darx_i was wondering if its possible to configure the canola youtube plugin to stream the higher quality ones instead17:13
MangoFusionwould HQ even playback at an acceptable speed on an 810?17:13
MangoFusion / 80017:13
darx_if you add &fmt=18 to the end of the normal URL, you get the higher quality version17:13
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darx_i was wondering if canola youtube plugin can be made to do that17:15
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MangoFusionnot seen anything specific in the options in the ui, so who knows =/17:20
darx_yup.. does it have a configuration text file or something?17:23
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MangoFusionsadly no idea =(17:29
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edistardoes anyone know which kernel module the touchscreen in the nokia 770 needs?17:36
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Navithe N800 isn't switching to speakers when I unplug my headphones18:23
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ivan_Hi everyone! I've just upraded to os2008. Now I'm trying to install FBReader and I get an error message - hildon-libs0 not found. Where do I get it?18:27
KotCzarnyis it the correct package?18:29
KotCzarnyi mean fbreader18:29
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ivan_I belive, yes. From theit own repository..18:29
KotCzarnyi remember mine installed without any additional libs18:30
KotCzarnybut i did manual installation18:30
ivan_thats and idea, will try it18:30
ivan_thanx black cat18:31
lcuk_2kot, do you code in c18:31
KotCzarnylcuk, a little18:32
ivan_never worked on debian, .deb packages are installed with apt-get?18:32
KotCzarnyapt-get is automatic install18:32
KotCzarnydpkg -i is manual18:32
KotCzarnybut you can try apt-get too18:32
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lcuk_2im trying to build in an easy way to identify code modules compiled into the program.  what i dont want to do however is have to go to a central file each time (beyond the makefile which i have to) and add their main function to a table of available init functions18:33
Italodanceumm what's mplayer plugin?18:34
lcuk_2same sort of idea italo but those are external modules - i could identify those at runtime by recursing a folder18:34
KotCzarnycan you make table of init functions dynamic?18:36
lcuk_2yes but i have to put init code into a single function18:36
lcuk_2its not like *cough* .net or even vb - i cant get hold of the class definitions at runtime to enumerate my inits18:37
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KotCzarnyyou will have to know how to call your modules' init18:38
lcuk_2yes, i will use a standard api for that18:38
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KotCzarnysteal the code from xmms18:38
lcuk_2whats xmms?18:38
KotCzarnygtk1 media player18:38
KotCzarnywinamp clone18:38
KotCzarnyhas a plugins system18:39
jottlcuk_2: considered using dlopen or g_module_open to load your modules/plugins?18:39
lcuk_2loading external plugins works fine - i could handle loading the object modules fairly simply18:39
lcuk_2i am on about having some modules built in because they share things18:39
lcuk_2if i cant do it simply ill just use plugins :)18:40
KotCzarnyah, so you want to make a shared lib? :>18:40
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lcuk_2yer :)  its ok ill just add init refs into the main handler18:41
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lcuk_2what i was thinking would be uncontrolable - in the visual languages ive got used to dropping things in simpler than in c18:42
* lcuk_2 doesnt like manually creating files editing makefile etc18:43
KotCzarnyuse python then?18:43
jottor a decent ide and a better buildsystem? :)18:44
lcuk_2i did at first - i got my remote control working, then i moved onto my sketch pad but found the update too slow18:44
lcuk_2lol jott, easier said than done18:44
lcuk_2dont like exclipse18:44
KotCzarnymake a binary lib for python?18:44
lcuk_2yer but i like having c around me now - it feels like home :)18:44
ivan_Hey Black cat, thanx again manual installation worked )18:44
lcuk_2for the first time since 1999 i have not opened vb to play with code (since january now).  a blank idea now starts with #include18:46
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jottyuck.. vb18:47
* jott shudders18:47
lcuk_2methadone after my amiga died.18:47
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lcuk_2vb does everything and integrates well and the ide is a dream.18:48
KotCzarnyivan: good :)18:48
KotCzarnybut vb's syntax is brain damaging18:49
KotCzarnyafter i hacked a little in asp i had troubles writing in c18:50
lcuk_2im just rusty with my c18:50
jottluckily last time i had to write vb/asp was 8 years ago :)18:50
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lcuk_2is googlepages a reasonable enough homepage platform?18:53
jottlcuk_2: you could use gambas  :) (never tried personally but seems to be mature)18:54
lcuk_2or rather, where would you recommend i get some webspace from18:54
KotCzarnyi just use thttpd and dyndns18:54
lcuk_2i noticed kot but i want reliable and os/computer independant - if i am offline i dont want my files to not be18:54
* jott pokes KotCzarny with a lighttpd .)18:54
KotCzarnyjott: nah, thttpd does what it has to do and compiles fine :)18:55
lcuk_2i dont wanna have to remember to install a service and ensure data is there18:55
KotCzarnywhat't to want more?18:55
KotCzarnylcuk: i noticed that my laptop is almost always online18:56
KotCzarnyand figured out i'll just use it as a file server :)18:56
lcuk_2multiple machines here and its just not worth the messing hacking the router to have info - i iwll just find somewhere online18:56
jottmy n810 is also almost always online .. that could beat perfomance wise ;)18:56
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lcuk_2my 810 wont stay offline18:57
jottsee .. perfect webserver ;)18:57
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lcuk_2it has a mind of its own - ill disable it at night and in the morning its back on - im sure it goes porn surfing when im not there18:57
jottlow power consumption and fast enough18:57
KotCzarnyas long as your wifi stays on ;)18:57
lcuk_2(its set to ask by the way)18:57
lcuk_2skynet involves flying 810s - mine is staying safe in its cradle18:57
KotCzarnythen just tape 810s to a balloons18:58
KotCzarnyand make a mesh network18:58
jaskacausing epilepsy and nausea by flashing the nokia handshake thing (its annoying) at you18:58
jaskaalways hated it when my old phone played it on startup and had to jam buttons to get past it :P18:59
VeggenI once networked via pigeons. got a lousy round trip time, though.18:59
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KotCzarnyi hate pigeons.18:59
lcuk_2packet loss is bad round here too - we have too many cats18:59
KotCzarnyand when pigeon drops a packet you have to clean it up yourself19:00
KotCzarnyif it happens on your balcony19:00
lcuk_2yer - why couldnt they be written in java - at least it would be self cleaning19:00
* lcuk_2 throws coffee at the next pigeon he sees19:01
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lcuk_2is there a way to logout of maemo as a user, or a way to have user profiles?19:08
KotCzarnyremove cookies19:08
lcuk_2ie - a quick way to alter the settings for multiple users19:08
lcuk_2no - i mean more like app list etc19:08
KotCzarnyfirefox has a custom button for clearing cookies for a site19:08
lcuk_2suppose i wanted to use star trek theme my missus would hate it19:08
lcuk_2she browses the web on it, i dont19:09
lcuk_2(much - its sluggish at best)19:09
lcuk_2it doesnt suit my way of surfing - but its a good info source - i like lots of tabs quickly and easily - maybe detecting a double tap instead of having to hold and slide to the menu19:10
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lcuk_2the link stays visible for a couple of seconds anyway whilst its thinking, so if it detects a second tap then it should just open a new page19:11
||cwi odn't htink ther eis any interface for that, it's designed to be a one user system19:11
lcuk_2i wonder what it would take to adjust it and add the login screens19:11
KotCzarnylocal proxy?19:12
lcuk_2i dunno, im just thinking out loud19:12
KotCzarnyme too19:12
lcuk_2i know my app menu would be totally different to the missus - i have book reader and code and xchat etc - she plays games and internet19:13
KotCzarnyi think right now maemo is single user19:13
KotCzarnyso everythink you think of will be a hack19:13
lcuk_2and i would have it logging out when its locked - quick and simple then to change user :)19:13
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||cwwell, you'd need to add a login screen to the X server for one, that may or may not be easy19:14
lcuk_2yer i know - i wonder if it would be enough to just allow the menu to change19:14
||cwthe base OS surely supports it19:14
KotCzarnymenu is a file on fs19:14
lcuk_2cw, even if it didnt actually log out - and just held a list of menus19:14
KotCzarnyif you can cause your app to move files around it could work19:14
lcuk_2if it couldnt exactly change the theme it wouldnt be that bad19:14
lcuk_2yer thats the thinking19:15
lcuk_2even just a quick desktop button, choose profile19:15
KotCzarnybut changing theme takes some time19:15
KotCzarnybut can be triggered too19:15
KotCzarnyi think19:15
lcuk_2yer it could, you might select that as an option "keep current theme"19:15
lcuk_2it would save time - just a quick tap - tap and the menus are yours again19:16
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lcuk_2it could even be auto configuring - when you do change user it just persists current menus on current user, then loads the ones for the new user19:17
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lcuk_2any changes made whilst as a specific user will be saved with him for next time19:17
lcuk_2infact, thinking like that makes it a simple process19:17
jottjust get another tablet - problem solved ;)19:17
lcuk_2you could even backup/restore favorites19:17
lcuk_2yer but thats £30019:18
KotCzarnybut you could play bt games19:18
lcuk_2i would rather play real games :)19:18
KotCzarnysometimes you can't19:18
lcuk_2i was playing trains with youngest earlier - hes obsessed19:18
jottyou could do nice video chats :)19:18
KotCzarny..across the room19:19
lcuk_2lol my thinking exactly19:19
jottno need to scream anymore :)19:19
KotCzarnyhome video messaging system?19:19
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KotCzarnyhiiii honey, dinner's ready19:20
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lcuk_2this tablet is just a house computer19:21
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lcuk_2it sits around and is picked up by anyone19:21
jottmake it personal computer and get more of them ,)19:21
KotCzarnyfinger reader?19:21
lcuk_2its not an option right now19:21
KotCzarnyface recognition?19:21
lcuk_2facial recognition19:21
lcuk_2i already have it in mind to use the camera for faces19:22
lcuk_2when i create a new user i am going to get their name from keyboard + screen + camera :)19:22
lcuk_2hmm i might even get them to say hello19:23
lcuk_2:O i wonder if i can read mii character files?19:23
lcuk_2building up a profile using information around me19:24
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KotCzarnygps your life19:24
lcuk_2gps log april 14th 2008: connecting...19:25
lcuk_2gps log april 14th 2023: still connecting...19:25
KotCzarnyno sonny, you are not me sitting in your room, and that photo won't fool me19:25
lcuk_2gps log april 14th 2053: hell, we are worse than real...19:25
lcuk_2have you seen the fully depth perceptive camera - its built up of thousands of lenses so it can calc distance19:26
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jottjust get a pmd camera.. it's not that expensive ;)19:28
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darx_is there any device comparable to the n810 but with a gsm module?19:42
darx_anything else?19:43
jotthtc universal19:43
jottwith linux hacked19:43
herzin810+cell phone19:43
KotCzarnythere will be a bunch of smartphones soon19:44
jottopenmoko with hurd kernel :P19:44
jottand duke nukem forever preinstalled :p19:44
jottneo freerunner more :)19:44
darx_ha ha19:44
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jottbut i guess htc universal is the only viable option at the moment...19:46
edistarneo freerunner will come out end april hopefully... ca. 90% certainty if you ask me :)19:47
jottlet's hope battery lasts longer than a couple of hours then :)19:48
edistarjott: heh, atm it lasts 8h running afaik19:48
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lcuk_2the throbbing led on the top left of an 810 - does the 800 have something similar?  what does the 800 do if i coded it in?19:52
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KotCzarnyn800 has dpad led too19:53
KotCzarnybut only 1 color19:53
jottlcuk_2: n800 has just a blue one not a fancy rgb one19:53
KotCzarnyand you can only control it's brightness19:53
KotCzarnyand probably controls are different a little19:53
* lcuk_2 screws up that idea and aims it at the bin19:54
jotthm an ambient light sensor would be fun :)19:54
lcuk_2my 810 has same ambient sensor as 800 - its got a sticker over it19:54
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jotttake a picture and take average color or some other statistical value and color the led by it :)19:55
jotti mean full ambient .)19:55
jottnot just brightness19:55
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KotCzarnyfor n800 you will have to drill a hole for a camera19:55
lcuk_2or superglue the popout out19:56
KotCzarnynah, i hate if it will stick out all the time19:56
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darx_wouldn't it have been sweet had the n810 had a gsm module?20:05
darx_i'd kill someone just for that20:05
kulvebuy one with usb interface..20:05
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KotCzarnyor just bt phone...20:06
jottor get a tiny bluetooth phone :)20:06
lcuk_2even cleaner is just use a phone20:06
kulveI don't see any reason for a gsm module..20:06
lcuk_2technically it would be cool20:06
darx_kulve: not just gsm data but even voice as well20:06
darx_that would be bliss20:06
KotCzarnyor if you really really must, but usb-pcmcia adapter and pcmcia gsm module20:06
glassbuilt in umts would be handy20:06
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jottor just do some neat hardware mod :)20:07
lcuk_2i think the next model has to include something like this20:07
darx_they won't do it20:07
jottprobably wimax crap.. availability 0% :/20:07
darx_they hate us linux folks20:07
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darx_i don't think openmoko will ever come out.20:08
darx_there is too much at stake for the networks20:08
darx_they'd kill it20:08
kulvethe neo freerunner is 2g, useless20:08
lcuk_2havent google just won open access to some of the airwaves20:09
darx_no they haven't20:09
lcuk_2the clause is in place though - google didnt get the license but made the change required20:10
darx_I think India is the only country where the people are free from the networks.20:11
darx_nobody buys contract phones in india20:11
darx_also they have quite a few state owned networks as well20:12
jottnot as funny as the solaris zfs video :)20:13
||cwlcuk_2: no, google just feels that their bid helped push the bid over the reserve for open access to be required20:13
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||cwit very well may have happened wihtout google's bid though20:14
lcuk_2so.. without google the bidding might not have gone over and access wouldnt be required..20:14
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||cwwe'll never know20:14
||cwgoogle is certainly taking the opportunity to pat themselves on the back though20:14
jottzfs is nice :)20:15
lcuk_2well i'll know when it downloads, tho since this is irc i am also turning the volume down and preparing for the worst20:16
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jottnothing offensive.. it's promoted by sun :)20:17
darx_lcuk_2: you can stream20:17
lcuk_2yer, ff just offered save by default20:17
darx_just open the link with a media player20:18
lcuk_2plenty of bit space tho so it can live with my crap - its already half done now, no point in going over old ground20:18
darx_dang.. it stutters for me when buffering.20:18
lcuk_2ill watch after tea :)20:19
lcuk_2without stutter ;)20:19
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darx_its the server. they've rate limited it20:21
jotthmmm.. i get 1.3M/s from it :o20:22
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darx_jott: maybe its just me20:27
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LateralusI'm a bit confused here, the menu icon I'm using has been changed with an updated package I installed, but the icon in the menu doesn't change, it's still an older smaller version.20:45
Lateralusthrough reboot, complete uninstall/reinstall rather than update, etc20:45
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Lateraluscopying the icon file to .images and opening it in the image viewer shows it's the correct size20:45
mgedmingtk has an icon cache, iirc20:47
mgedminthere's some command you can run to update it20:47
mgedminI don't remember any specifics :(20:47
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Lateralushmm, that command isnt changing anything20:52
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KotCzarnybecause you have to add -f dir21:31
KotCzarnyto it21:31
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jga23are there any apps that stream mms feeds?22:12
doc|homejga23: streamtuner22:13
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unique311for those who like my artwork....22:16
unique311mtpaint is ok...22:16
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tharveyI'm pretty new to maemo - I've read over the Maemo 4.0 tutorial and How-to but may have missed something - how do I build and flash the entire OS image (bootloader, kernel, initFS, RFS) from the Maemo SDK?22:22
kulvetharvey: can't do that22:23
edistartharvey: you can only flash with the flasher program22:24
KotCzarnyespecially bootloader part22:24
KotCzarnyit's closed source22:24
kulveand mostly is the initfs too22:24
tharveyah... ok, kernel as well?22:24
edistartharvey: you can flash a FIASCO image, which contains kernel, initfs, rootfs and 2 bins iirc22:24
KotCzarnykernel is open22:24
KotCzarnybut has binary blobs22:24
tharveyedistar, whats a FIASCO image?22:25
kulveonly the wlan related modules, but that doesn't limit much22:25
edistartharvey: read here.. further down22:25
kulvefiasco is a blob containing the parts (kernel, rootfs, etc)22:25
tharveycool ok22:25
KotCzarnyyou can also flash all of those parts separately22:25
KotCzarnyie. initfs/kernel/rootfs22:25
kulvecan you build a fiasco the the open source 0xffff flasher?22:26
edistartharvey: e.g. you could build an angstrom kernel/rootfs and flash it22:26
tharveyso the 'how to become root' thing talks about opening an Xterm - I assume you install xterm as a part of that correct?22:26
KotCzarnykulve: i used fanoush's script that simply uses mtdtools22:26
edistartharvey: you install xterm later on, from the application manager22:26
KotCzarnytharvey: you will be better off with ssh server22:26
edistartharvey: to become root use the gainroot or change the /etc/sudoers file so that you can sudo -i whenever needed22:27
tharveyssh server is cool... I'll do it that way.  Right now for some reason I can't get WiFi access so I'm just reading/taking notes until I can get to a different AP22:27
KotCzarnyad-hoc wifi doesn't work?22:27
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edistardoes r&d mode use more battery life?22:28
tharveyso I'm trying to understand - maemo is the OS that Nokia ships on these right?  So its 'open' but not entirely (ie closed bootloader, some kernel/fs obs closed) - so is gaining root 'hacking' the device or is it just part of the openess of the tablet?22:28
edistartharvey: well.. it's kind of hacking22:29
edistartharvey: there isn't an official statement by nokia how to do it22:29
tharveyKotCzarny, well, I can associate with an AP in my office with WEP, but strangely I can't open any web pages... not sure whats up with it - was going to try another AP in case our office one is bunged up22:29
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KotCzarnytharvey: maybe it's your ap config?22:29
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edistartharvey: I guess it's DNS..22:29
KotCzarnyor office firewall?22:29
tharveyKotCzarny, thats what I'm assuming - and I don't have access to the AP - so I'll try mine at home22:30
edistarI once had my n770 not update the nameserver22:30
KotCzarnytry pinging by ip22:30
KotCzarnyap and some outher sites22:30
edistarKotCzarny: don't you need to be root to ping?22:30
KotCzarnyi don't know22:30
KotCzarnydepends how ping is installed22:30
KotCzarnyif it's suid ..22:30
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edistarmy n770 is not functioning right now.. angstrom image that doesn't recognize touchscreen :P but I'm build a different kernel right now.. so I can't test ping22:31
edistarKotCzarny: I think the user doesn't have it in $PATH22:31
edistarbut I don't know22:31
tharveythanks for the info peeps!22:32
* KotCzarny is a cat, not a peep.22:32
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wom-anyone with knowledge of python, gui app and hildonized toolbar?23:20
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yllusaloha, tablet comrades23:23
yllusAnyone playing with the Canola 2 beta? I get a "ImportError: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" error and was wondering if anyone had an idea of how to fix this23:24
KotCzarnywhat os?23:24
yllusUsing a N77023:25
KotCzarnythat could explain libs incompatibility23:25
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KotCzarnymaybe you should try os2008he ?23:25
yllusThat's a shame, I was really looking forward to Canola 223:25
KotCzarnymaybe they have version for 2006 too?23:26
yllusThey definitely list IT2006 compatibility:
KotCzarnythen maybe you downloaded wrong version?23:27
KotCzarnyor they miscompiled it?23:27
yllusyeah, possible I guess :) I'll write in the Canola forum23:27
KotCzarnyos2006 is quite old..23:27
yllusI have a pretty nice card boot and customization set up, I'm trying not to go through the pain of a reflash unless I have to :)23:28
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KotCzarnybread band23:34
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edistaryllus: canola is a little slow on the n77023:36
mabahey all.. I have a small question (if there's anyone here who can answer it)23:36
edistaryllus: and it2007he looks much cooler on the n770 :)23:36
edistarmaba: go ahead23:36
mabaI'm creating a deb package for a project I'm working on, and it depends on libsoup.. how can I make the application manager install libsoup?23:37
mabaI have libsoup listed as a dependency in the control file23:37
KotCzarnyjust depend on it?23:37
edistarmaba: then it should install it23:37
yllusI don't mind slow too much, I just want it to install :O23:37
KotCzarnyapt-get should install all deps if they're available23:37
mabayes, it should23:37
mababut it doesn't :)23:37
mabamaybe cause libsoup is a system package?23:37
KotCzarnythen maybe it's not available in defined repos23:37
mabait's there23:41
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KotCzarnyextras isn't enabled by default23:41
mababut it's enabled on my device :)23:41
mabaand my package is installable if I enable red pill mode, install libsoup manually and then install my package23:42
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mabamaybe if I'm depending on a package that isn't in the user section, I have to create a .install file?23:45
mabaor something23:45
KotCzarnyor just add info on your site23:45
KotCzarnyor just build statically23:45
mabaKotCzarny: not very user friendly to have the user enable red pill mode and all that :)23:46
KotCzarnyas i said, just link that lib statically23:47
KotCzarnyor repackage it23:47
doc|homeKotCzarny: it's not meant to be user friendly. It's not supported and may break stuff23:47
KotCzarnyor nag author to put it into user/ section23:47
mabawell, it should be doable in another way23:47
mabaI guess libsoup isn't that usable on its own23:48
mabaso it shouldn't be in the user section23:48
mabaso, noone with a _real_ solution? :)23:51
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yllusaha, this probably explains it: Failed to fetch  404 Not Found23:59
yllusAnyone know the proper URL?23:59
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