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| |tbb1 | everytime i try to ssh into my tablet it takes a long time before the sshd ask me for a password, what could be that problem? | 00:59 |
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| proteous | how long | 01:00 |
| proteous | turn on verbose when you connect and see what's going on | 01:00 |
| proteous | ssh -v -v | 01:00 |
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| melmoth | |ttb1 reverse dns timeout ? | 01:00 |
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| pupnik | how many pizzas will you eat for the rest of your life? | 01:03 |
| |tbb| | debug1: An invalid name was supplied | 01:04 |
| |tbb| | Cannot determine realm for numeric host address | 01:04 |
| |tbb| | debug1: An invalid name was supplied | 01:04 |
| |tbb| | A parameter was malformed | 01:04 |
| |tbb| | Validation error | 01:04 |
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| crashmat1ix | evening | 01:06 |
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| |tbb| | it hangs there | 01:07 |
| |tbb| | debug2: fd 3 setting O_NONBLOCK | 01:07 |
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| proteous | edit the /etc/hosts file | 01:09 |
| |tbb| | from tablet ? and what exactly | 01:09 |
| proteous | one sec here | 01:10 |
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| proteous | http://macnewbie.wordpress.com/2006/08/30/slow-ssh-connections-on-mac-os-x/#comment-18153 | 01:13 |
| proteous | take a look at that | 01:13 |
| |tbb| | that worked thx | 01:17 |
| proteous | cool | 01:19 |
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| proteous | I don't know all the answers but my google-foo is strong | 01:22 |
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| |tbb| | havent know about ssh -v ;) | 01:23 |
| proteous | why are motherboard manufacturers websites always the slowest crapiest sites to use | 01:25 |
| proteous | graaaarrrrrrrrggg | 01:25 |
| crashmat1ix | proteous: I wondered about that often too | 01:25 |
| proteous | you want to download the latest drivers!!! Muaahahahha, eat this cold fusion error!! | 01:25 |
| proteous | supermicros is not working right | 01:26 |
| proteous | the asus usa site is super super slow | 01:26 |
| proteous | the abit site is a joke | 01:26 |
| crashmat1ix | I 'solved' the asus site stuff by hitting the russian mirror of the english site | 01:26 |
| crashmat1ix | worked somewhat faster | 01:26 |
| proteous | and the time you usualy want to use them is when you are trying to update a newly assembled computer, you just waited through a long ass install process and are already impatient | 01:27 |
| proteous | heh | 01:27 |
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| proteous | I blame it on supermicros usage of SQLserver | 01:28 |
| proteous | yuck | 01:28 |
| proteous | SQLserver and coldfusion | 01:29 |
| proteous | a one two punch to the gut | 01:29 |
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| Sterling | Is this the appropriate channel for maemo/tablet related support? | 01:36 |
| proteous | it's not offical nokia support | 01:36 |
| lardman|scrabble | night all | 01:36 |
| proteous | but feel free to ask questions | 01:36 |
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| proteous | gnite | 01:36 |
| proteous | too late | 01:36 |
| proteous | we are all proud nokia tablet owners | 01:37 |
| Sterling | I've got a 770 running os2006. I'm getting a "memory card corrupted" message in control panel, memory. What should the partition table look like for /dev/mmcblk0 ? | 01:37 |
| proteous | do you have the wifi patch installed? | 01:39 |
| Sterling | I'm not sure. How can I check? | 01:39 |
| proteous | if you didn't install it yourself then it's not installed | 01:39 |
| Sterling | k | 01:39 |
| proteous | the thing is that there is a nasty bug with the wifi, it has an error where using the wifi will randomly overwrite parts of memory | 01:40 |
| Sterling | Oh I see the sticky on the forums. | 01:40 |
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| proteous | basicly it's useless to try to troubleshoot anything before reflashing and installing the patch | 01:40 |
| proteous | because there is no way to know what has been corrupted | 01:41 |
| proteous | although the usualy procedure is to put the patch on your memory card, reflash the 770 and install the patch before using the wifi | 01:41 |
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| proteous | but if your memory card is corrupted that is a problem | 01:41 |
| proteous | although you could reflash your 770, reformat the memory card, mount the 770 on your computer and transfer the patch to the memory card and install it before using the wifi | 01:42 |
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| proteous | but in answer to your initial quesion, I"m not sure what the partition talbe should look like | 01:43 |
| Sterling | do you think the latest os2007he still has this problem? | 01:43 |
| Sterling | I saw this http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/new_os2007_he_for_the_nokia_770_with_mozilla_engine_and_memory_corruption_bugfix.html | 01:43 |
| proteous | 2007he has the patch already included | 01:44 |
| Sterling | my experience with 2007 wasn't too great | 01:44 |
| proteous | although some people find 2007he to be unstable | 01:44 |
| Sterling | otherwise i'd just keep with it | 01:44 |
| proteous | YMWV | 01:44 |
| Sterling | but i tried it right when it came out | 01:44 |
| proteous | I haven't tried it | 01:44 |
| proteous | I don't really need any of the features it adds | 01:45 |
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| Sterling | alright, thanks for the help proteous | 01:48 |
| proteous | np | 01:48 |
| proteous | hope it works out for you | 01:48 |
| Sterling | I've had my 770 for over 2 years now and it keeps chugging. I'm sure you'll figure something out | 01:53 |
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| leo2007 | what's the most common language to write app for Maemo? | 02:02 |
| proteous | python | 02:02 |
| proteous | probably | 02:02 |
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| leo2007 | what's the best life to extend battery life? | 02:05 |
| leo2007 | proteous: thanks. I like python | 02:05 |
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| proteous | the afterlife is the best life I would assume | 02:06 |
| proteous | from what I hear | 02:06 |
| leo2007 | s/life/way/ | 02:07 |
| leo2007 | sorry typo | 02:07 |
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| proteous | not leaving the wifi on helps | 02:08 |
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| ryoohki_ | does anyone make a bigger bbattery for the nokia n800 or n810? i know it would have to come with a door/covering since it would be too large to fit but is there a such a product? | 02:10 |
| proteous | you could make a battery pack that plugged into the charger port :) | 02:11 |
| ryoohki_ | proteous: i know, i've seen these - thanks | 02:11 |
| proteous | :P | 02:12 |
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| |tbb| | nite all | 02:26 |
| proteous | nite | 02:27 |
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| derf | Hmm, is the ruby maemo site down? | 02:32 |
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| derf | Never mind, found the packages directly in garage. | 02:37 |
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| daveux | How do I figure out my IP? | 02:55 |
| proteous | open tool -> connection manage | 02:56 |
| proteous | open the menu select Internet connection -> IP address | 02:56 |
| lcuk_2 | if its your global internet ip you want, this place will make you laugh: http://www.moanmyip.com/ | 02:56 |
| derf | Or just type /sbin/ifconfig in an xterm. | 02:59 |
| proteous | :P | 02:59 |
| proteous | where did you get your name derf? | 02:59 |
| daveux | ok, so I installed openssh server | 03:00 |
| daveux | DO I need to restart for it to work? | 03:01 |
| derf | From the sky? I don't know. | 03:01 |
| proteous | heh | 03:01 |
| derf | I commonly tell people it's a nice square of four letters on the keybaord. | 03:01 |
| proteous | just that I have a friend who uses that nick on IRC | 03:01 |
| proteous | I thought it was pretty strange | 03:01 |
| derf | It turns out their a fair number of us. | 03:02 |
| proteous | but to see another derf is pretty odd | 03:02 |
| derf | s/their/there's | 03:02 |
| proteous | interesting | 03:02 |
| derf | Something about four-letter nicks. | 03:02 |
| proteous | heh | 03:03 |
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| Sterling | fixed my memory card with os2007he :) | 03:25 |
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| proteous | nice | 03:32 |
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| smackpotato | has anyone fixed samba in the file manager | 03:39 |
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| smackpotato | it almost works | 03:40 |
| proteous | haven't used it | 03:40 |
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| tank-man | fixed what? | 03:57 |
| tank-man | what was wrong? | 03:57 |
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| ryoohki_ | how is it that the internal flash card on the n810 cannot be replaced? | 04:04 |
| GeneralAntilles | Because it's soldered to the mainboard. . . . | 04:04 |
| proteous | lol | 04:06 |
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| Kggk | Anyone here with an n800? | 04:25 |
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| proteous | I saw one online once | 04:27 |
| proteous | but I just have a 770 | 04:27 |
| GeneralAntilles | Ha | 04:27 |
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| `0660_ | what's n800??? | 04:27 |
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| proteous | taters? what's taters precious? | 04:28 |
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| Kggk | I need people with pretty quick tablets to test my web-app :) | 04:29 |
| proteous | are you saying my 770 is slow? | 04:29 |
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| proteous | don't listen to him poor 770, he doesn't mean it | 04:29 |
| Kggk | :P I have no clue, never touched a tablet before | 04:29 |
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| Kggk | proteous: do you think your tablet could handle a WebOS? | 04:31 |
| proteous | no idea | 04:31 |
| proteous | not if it's flash based :P | 04:31 |
| Kggk | I despise Flash | 04:32 |
| Kggk | its Javascript for the fancy-shmansy stuff | 04:32 |
| Kggk | PHP aswell | 04:32 |
| Kggk | Wanna give it a whirl for me? | 04:32 |
| Kggk | :) | 04:32 |
| proteous | sure | 04:33 |
| Kggk | Awesome, thanks. The URL is exiousos.com/exiousos | 04:33 |
| Kggk | Click "New User", it takes about 2 seconds to register (just pick a username and pass) | 04:33 |
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| proteous | the directorys seem to be case sensitive | 04:39 |
| proteous | so it would be exiousos.com/ExiousOS | 04:40 |
| proteous | you might want to put in something that will give a warning if javascript isn't enabled in the browser | 04:41 |
| proteous | at least on my 770, I didn't realized I had it turned off and was presented with a page with no content, just a background image | 04:42 |
| proteous | not sure how to log in | 04:43 |
| proteous | maybe it doesn't like my browser | 04:43 |
| proteous | er, not so much log in as create an account | 04:43 |
| GeneralAntilles | There's no way it'll work with Opera. | 04:43 |
| proteous | why's that | 04:43 |
| GeneralAntilles | Because Opera is old a sucky. | 04:44 |
| GeneralAntilles | s/a/and/ | 04:44 |
| infobot | GeneralAntilles meant: Becanduse Opera is old a sucky. | 04:44 |
| proteous | so is javascript | 04:44 |
| proteous | lol | 04:44 |
| GeneralAntilles | <_< | 04:44 |
| proteous | although the HTMLresponce stuff is newer | 04:44 |
| proteous | and various other ajax stuff | 04:45 |
| elb | so, before I go digging into barcode libraries, does anyone know of a barcode-reading application for maemo? | 04:45 |
| proteous | er, httpresponse | 04:45 |
| GeneralAntilles | None that I've seen, elb. | 04:46 |
| GeneralAntilles | You might check ITT, though. | 04:46 |
| elb | I didn't find anything in my own search | 04:46 |
| elb | but ... maemo stuff doesn't seem to be real well organized ;-) | 04:46 |
| GeneralAntilles | I nominate elb for the job. | 04:47 |
| elb | hah yeah | 04:47 |
| elb | a barcode framework that can use the camera for input seems like a natural fit, to me | 04:48 |
| proteous | USB host mode + cue cat FTW | 04:49 |
| elb | if by 'ftw' you mean 'sucks' | 04:49 |
| elb | then I totally agree | 04:49 |
| proteous | hah | 04:49 |
| proteous | what sucks about that | 04:49 |
| elb | why haul around another external device, when you have an appropriate builtin input mechanism? | 04:49 |
| proteous | maybe | 04:49 |
| proteous | I've never used a camera based barcode reader | 04:50 |
| proteous | aiming the camera might be a little ackward | 04:50 |
| proteous | but maybe not | 04:50 |
| elb | on the 810 it might be | 04:50 |
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| elb | but it's still not a second device | 04:50 |
| proteous | you could duct tape the cuecat to your n800... | 04:51 |
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| elb | I had one of the original cuecats | 04:53 |
| elb | they kind of sucked | 04:53 |
| proteous | I've never used on | 04:53 |
| proteous | one | 04:53 |
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| proteous | too bad the cuecat mainboard is sorta bulky | 04:57 |
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| Kggk | proteous, there was a really cool OS X app that let you use your iSight as a barcode scanner | 05:04 |
| proteous | I remember reading about that | 05:05 |
| proteous | http://sourceforge.net/projects/barcr-reader/ | 05:05 |
| Kggk | Wish i had bought an iSight before they got discontinued | 05:05 |
| Kggk | it'd be worth one pretty penny :) | 05:05 |
| proteous | heh | 05:05 |
| proteous | they were nifty lookin | 05:05 |
| Kggk | Bleh, i thought they were ugly | 05:05 |
| proteous | :P | 05:06 |
| Kggk | Does anyone have a site they'd be interested in trading banner ads on? | 05:06 |
| Kggk | I know this is wayyyyyyyy OT | 05:06 |
| proteous | ... | 05:06 |
| Kggk | so, don't attack me :P | 05:06 |
| * proteous attacks | 05:06 | |
| elb | I have two isights | 05:07 |
| elb | one is still in its box | 05:07 |
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| Kggk | :P lucky | 05:07 |
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| elb | eh, they're not really useful to me | 05:12 |
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| Kggk | Sell em? | 05:14 |
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| jott | build a "number 5" look-a-like? | 05:18 |
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| smackpotato | here is a power solution | 05:20 |
| smackpotato | http://cgi.ebay.ca/Chinese-Military-Radio-Hand-Crank-Generator-Type-65_W0QQitemZ190194509781QQihZ009QQcategoryZ1502QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem | 05:20 |
| johnx | I liked the prototype OLPC's crank better... | 05:21 |
| smackpotato | why didnt they include it | 05:22 |
| elb | I'm not turning anything up for bar code reading | 05:22 |
| elb | that's unfortunate | 05:22 |
| elb | so many *practical* maemo applications are just waiting to be written | 05:22 |
| elb | I need more time! | 05:22 |
| elb | ;-) | 05:22 |
| smackpotato | the 2d bar codes can be grabed with a camera | 05:24 |
| elb | so can 3d | 05:24 |
| elb | ... just not on the nokia tablets (yet) | 05:24 |
| elb | err, no, 2d is what I meant | 05:25 |
| elb | I thought you meant linear | 05:25 |
| elb | linear and 2d barcodes can both be easily read by a camera of the resolution of the nokia tablet camera | 05:25 |
| elb | although the tablet camera's quality appears to be very poor, at least on my tablet | 05:25 |
| elb | there's a lot of noise on the image | 05:26 |
| lcuk_2 | barcodes would look snowy tho | 05:26 |
| smackpotato | ya iguess thefre more like squares than bars | 05:26 |
| lcuk_2 | also n810 camera isnt situated well for practical use | 05:27 |
| elb | eh, just hold it above the code for a second | 05:28 |
| smackpotato | you need to carry a mirror with u | 05:28 |
| lcuk_2 | that would help keep my hair in check, but what about the barcodes? | 05:28 |
| elb | I'd like something where I could, e.g., take it to the grocery and scan an item, and it would say "you last bought this for $2.99" or whatever | 05:28 |
| elb | obviously that price I would have to enter at some point | 05:29 |
| elb | but there ar ea lot of things I buy often, for which this would be practical | 05:29 |
| johnx | qr-codes (the 2D ones) are pretty neat...but not always helpful | 05:30 |
| lcuk_2 | the unknown price is even ok, i think there are barcode lookup sites online which give product description when you get home and line it up with the receipt | 05:30 |
| elb | 2d barcodes are pretty much useless for me | 05:30 |
| lcuk_2 | hang on, do receipts now display the product code on them? | 05:30 |
| elb | nothing I do day-to-day uses them | 05:30 |
| elb | lcuk_2: many do, but as a number, not a code | 05:31 |
| lcuk_2 | thats ok, whilst walking round scan items as you trolley them | 05:31 |
| elb | yeah | 05:31 |
| lcuk_2 | when you get home scan the receipt as well | 05:31 |
| elb | and OCR it | 05:31 |
| lcuk_2 | match up barcodes with prices and then next time it will know | 05:31 |
| elb | in my case, that'd be a lot more trouble than I needed | 05:32 |
| lcuk_2 | it would be a nice feedback loop | 05:32 |
| elb | I'd be most interested in staples | 05:32 |
| lcuk_2 | then scip the ocr at the end and just allow prices and descriptions to be entered per the scanned code | 05:32 |
| elb | which, for me, means eggs, bread, ice cream, sausage, and bacon ;-) | 05:32 |
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| lcuk_2 | that would be quite useful and interesting to monitor | 05:33 |
| lcuk_2 | it might be better (and esier) to get a cuecat or use a different camera, 8x0 isnt really geared to the kind of swiping you would need | 05:34 |
| elb | but that's another device | 05:34 |
| lcuk_2 | 810 for instance, i wouldnt swipe heavy groceries near it for fear of damaging the screen | 05:34 |
| elb | the 810 camera is definitely suboptimal for this task, but should be *sufficient* | 05:34 |
| * smackpotato trys a spoon | 05:34 | |
| elb | oh, I'd swipe it over the groceries, not vice-versa | 05:35 |
| elb | as you said, as I pick them up | 05:35 |
| lcuk_2 | i have a phone with a better camera in it already and its bluetooth | 05:35 |
| lcuk_2 | i could sit the 810 on the little shopping list clip thing on the trolley | 05:35 |
| elb | still, though, you're waving around two devices | 05:35 |
| elb | bar codes can be read on *really* crappy cameras | 05:35 |
| elb | although the processing to make that happen might be beyond the FOSS libraries | 05:36 |
| lcuk_2 | nahhh you aare underestimating the people around you | 05:37 |
| elb | oh, I'm not saying it can't be written | 05:37 |
| elb | but someone has to care enough to do so | 05:37 |
| elb | and my brief survey of the field suggests it ain't likely | 05:37 |
| elb | there's a pretty powerful 2d barcode library, but for linear barcodes there doesn't seem to be much | 05:37 |
| jott | doesn't gocr support barcode recognition? | 05:39 |
| lcuk_2 | http://zebra.sourceforge.net/ | 05:39 |
| lcuk_2 | Zebra is a small, layered EAN/UPC and Code 128 bar code scanning and decoding library implemented in C (C++ wrappers are also provided) | 05:39 |
| elb | yeah, but read the comments | 05:39 |
| elb | it says it probably doesn't work well for noisy images | 05:40 |
| elb | (re: Zebra) | 05:40 |
| elb | I only did a cursory exploration, but I ran across zebra and libdmtx as the most likely candidates | 05:40 |
| jott | it would be interesting if we could increase the integration time of the ccd sensor :) | 05:40 |
| jott | but i doubt the omap would allow us to control this kernel wise :/ | 05:41 |
| elb | it's probably hardware defined | 05:42 |
| elb | or non-replaceable firmware defined, as the case typically is | 05:42 |
| lcuk_2 | wouldnt that oversaturate the images | 05:42 |
| elb | since nothing is in hardware any more ;-) | 05:42 |
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| jott | elb: have you actually tried the zebra implementation with some n8x0 images? | 05:49 |
| elb | jott: I haven't | 05:51 |
| elb | trying it and dmtx are now on my TODO | 05:52 |
| elb | but ... it's a long list ;-) | 05:52 |
| jott | hehe sure ;) | 05:52 |
| elb | my 810 takes *really*, *really* noisy images, with poor color contrast and registration | 05:52 |
| elb | so I'm suspicious | 05:52 |
| elb | looks like dmtx would be able to handle it, based on his documentation | 05:52 |
| elb | but since 2d barcodes are used basically nowhere useful ... ;-) | 05:52 |
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| lcuk_2 | damn wrong icon ... :| | 05:57 |
| johnx | elb, they're all over the place here | 05:57 |
| johnx | they mostly have URLs encoded in them | 05:57 |
| elb | where is "here"? | 05:57 |
| elb | I never see them, to speak of, in the midwestern US | 05:57 |
| elb | just on packages and mail, basically, and some electronic devices on the FCC/etc. tag | 05:57 |
| johnx | Japan :D | 05:58 |
| elb | ahh, yeah | 05:58 |
| elb | they do the phone click thing, right? | 05:58 |
| elb | where you "click" their URL by snapping a shot of the barcode on your mobile phone? | 05:58 |
| johnx | even phones that come "free" with a contract have a cam that can read qr-codes | 05:58 |
| johnx | yeah | 05:58 |
| elb | yeah | 05:59 |
| elb | I think I bought the last Japanese phone that didn't have a camera ;-) | 05:59 |
| elb | in 2001 | 05:59 |
| elb | ;-) | 05:59 |
| johnx | last years lineup included AGPS | 05:59 |
| elb | gps was available in 2001 | 06:00 |
| elb | or does agps mean something other than network-assisted gps? | 06:01 |
| elb | in modern terms | 06:01 |
| johnx | that's what it is | 06:01 |
| johnx | but now it's in *every* phone | 06:01 |
| johnx | the time to get a fix is ~15-30 seconds at worst | 06:02 |
| elb | yeah, nice | 06:02 |
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| * elb looks to see if he can find a 2d barcode | 06:03 | |
| johnx | I thought slashdot or someplace had them up for a while | 06:04 |
| elb | oh, I can easily find an image of one | 06:05 |
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| elb | I'm looking for one to take with the 810 camera | 06:05 |
| johnx | an image should work fine ... | 06:06 |
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| elb | if I printed it, I guess | 06:09 |
| elb | taking a picture of a lit display is very different from taking a picture of a white reflective surface ;-) | 06:10 |
| johnx | it should work fine on the screen | 06:10 |
| johnx | my cell phone has no problem with it... | 06:10 |
| elb | no, it's probably *easier* | 06:10 |
| elb | the n810 seems to be generally light-starved | 06:11 |
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| jott | elb: print it ;) | 06:12 |
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| elb | bah | 06:13 |
| elb | I should be able to find one ;-) | 06:13 |
| elb | I just found a fedex package, but it's the wrong style of 2d barcode | 06:13 |
| elb | haHA, USPS to the rescue! | 06:15 |
| johnx | anyways, need to head out | 06:16 |
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| * b0unc3 night | 06:17 | |
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| elb | yeah, no love wit hthe postage code | 06:20 |
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| elb | hah zebra actually did a fair job when I thresholded the image to B&W | 06:53 |
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| EruditeHermit | hey, is there a way to queue songs in canola? | 07:43 |
| EruditeHermit | or to create your own playlist | 07:44 |
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| Luria | http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/samsung-sm940ux.html | 08:22 |
| Luria | anyone seen this? | 08:22 |
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| K-Fox | where is libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1) 's offline files? | 08:41 |
| K-Fox | i am trying to install a openssh on n800 | 08:42 |
| pupnik_ | interesting device Luria | 08:48 |
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| zoran | K-Fox, you should already have that lib installed | 08:50 |
| Luria | esp for the nokia | 08:51 |
| pupnik_ | anybody want to fix up pixel doubling on another new game? | 08:52 |
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| Zic | I've got an updates in OS2008 of maps, but I can't upgrade it | 09:20 |
| pupnik_ | does it give a warning about being untrusted or something? | 09:20 |
| dragorn | I've got an update for map which triggers a repo mismatch and won't apply | 09:21 |
| K-Fox | insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.21-omap1/g_ether.ko | 09:21 |
| dragorn | I ended up ignoring it. | 09:21 |
| K-Fox | this command did excute on xterm , an erroe message is "-sh: ./insmod: not found | 09:22 |
| K-Fox | why? | 09:22 |
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| dragorn | because insmod probably isn't in your current directory | 09:22 |
| K-Fox | huh | 09:23 |
| dragorn | so you shouldn't be telling it './insmod' | 09:23 |
| K-Fox | i did upgrade os2008 on n800 | 09:23 |
| K-Fox | not existing by default? | 09:23 |
| K-Fox | it is difficult to connect the " Setting up USB Networking | 09:25 |
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| pupnik_ | http://pupnik.de/tyrian21_maemo.tgz | 09:38 |
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| pupnik_ | A fun shoot-em-up | 09:39 |
| pupnik_ | very elegantly written too (lots of sprites) | 09:39 |
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| K-Fox | what is root password by default (os 2008) | 10:12 |
| Luria | non | 10:13 |
| Luria | none, passwd -l | 10:13 |
| K-Fox | it's passwd? | 10:14 |
| Luria | no, there is no password | 10:14 |
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| Luria | passwd -l disables password login to an account | 10:15 |
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| K-Fox | Enable RDmode if you want to break your device <--- this message is " root permission "? | 10:19 |
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| K-Fox | wow it's difficult | 10:20 |
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| pupnik_ | /join #tyrian | 11:00 |
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| proteous | what's tyrian | 11:04 |
| proteous | nm | 11:04 |
| proteous | thanks google | 11:04 |
| proteous | acording to the box cover, tyrian is: "INTENSE SERIOUS FUN!" | 11:05 |
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| pupnik_ | http://pupnik.de/tyrianN810.jpg | 11:08 |
| pupnik_ | http://pupnik.de/Tyrian_on_N810_demo.avi | 11:08 |
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| K-Fox | wow | 11:10 |
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| pupnik_ | it does a memcpy to screen update | 11:36 |
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| n0ob_ | nice work pupnik_ | 11:43 |
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| pupnik_ | damn this might be the fastest SDL game i've compiled for this thing | 12:11 |
| pupnik_ | it's hardly slower using software scaling at 640x400 | 12:11 |
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| proteous | heh | 12:13 |
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| GreySim | Anyone know if there's a package for the console program 'remind' floating around anywhere? I've tried searching for it, but 'remind' doesn't make for a great search term. :( | 12:16 |
| GreySim | (770 - OS 2007 HE) | 12:16 |
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| pupnik_ | did you check gronmayer? | 12:16 |
| GreySim | Oh, no. Thanks. :) | 12:17 |
| GreySim | That actually completely reminds me; I disabled all my repos to install Canola earlier. So I might've already even had the right repo. >.< | 12:17 |
| GreySim | Although it appears not to be there. :( | 12:18 |
| Veggen | I wish we could have maemo extras as the *one* repo that people put their stuff in | 12:19 |
| Veggen | (or another one, but only *one*) | 12:19 |
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| GreySim | Very weird. I found a PDF that looked like an assignment to build a Maemo frontend to remind, supposedly without depending on the remind package, so there must be one *somewhere*. | 12:19 |
| Veggen | well. command-line stuff should be very easy to port. | 12:20 |
| konttori | Hey: anybody using mouse on maemo? | 12:20 |
| GreySim | Yeah, but my two attempts at setting up a scratchbox have both failed spectacularly. | 12:20 |
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| konttori | If anyone is interested in getting mice to work on maemo, lemme know. | 12:24 |
| pupnik_ | hi konttori i love nuvo-black theme | 12:25 |
| pupnik_ | did you see my comments on the problems i had with it | 12:25 |
| melmoth | GreySim: http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/remind | 12:26 |
| konttori | umm... nope | 12:26 |
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| konttori | I didn' know it worked on os 2008 | 12:26 |
| K-Fox | pupinik: this message is out " -sh: insmod: not found " | 12:26 |
| K-Fox | on n800 | 12:26 |
| konttori | I have a version that works pretty well though. | 12:26 |
| GreySim | melmoth: Thanks, but I lack the ability to get that working on Maemo (I think; I'll take a quick look, but since I know using gcc is involved, I'm fairly sure it's beyond me at the moment). | 12:27 |
| K-Fox | where is the insmod package? | 12:28 |
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| konttori | punik_: Lemme know of the issues you had | 12:29 |
| inz | k-fox, insmod should be part of busybox | 12:31 |
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| pupnik_ | konttori: remnant of older theme: bright bar between started application icons | 12:40 |
| pupnik_ | remnant of older theme, bright bar under status bar | 12:40 |
| pupnik_ | i make pictures tonight | 12:40 |
| pupnik_ | most beautiful theme ever though :) imo | 12:40 |
| GreySim | Ah, the package of remind I saw reference to was one that was created as part of an exercise in some class of some kind. *sigh* | 12:41 |
| GreySim | http://www.mit.jyu.fi/mweber/teaching/TIES425/exercises/ (In case anyone is curious.) | 12:41 |
| pupnik_ | http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2006/nuvoblack more comments konttori | 12:41 |
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| solmumaha | pupnik_: ever tried that jagged alliance 2? i think it would be a killer game for the tablet | 12:53 |
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| pupnik_ | yeah i bought JA2 used just recently | 12:56 |
| pupnik_ | no didn't try it yet | 12:57 |
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| solmumaha | i have the original for linux too | 13:04 |
| solmumaha | never really played it, but finished first and it's expansions | 13:05 |
| Blafasel | Morning | 13:05 |
| Zic | GPE PIM is not on repository of OS2008 | 13:06 |
| Zic | an idea when it comes ? | 13:06 |
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| Blafasel | Wow. Canola2 Beta 2 looks even better.. | 13:07 |
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| pupnik_ | anybody wanna help fix pixel-doubled tyrian? :) | 13:24 |
| pupnik_ | real close now! :D | 13:24 |
| pH5 | pupnik_: where are the dosbox sources? the dosbox garage.maemo.org project is empty. | 13:29 |
| pH5 | lardman|away: I don't understand the asm code, but now I have something that creates and deletes a stream with SIO_create/SIO_delete. | 13:31 |
| K-Fox | dpkg -i openssh_4.6pl-5.maemo3_all.deb <--- this message is out " dpkg: requested operation required supersuer privilege " | 13:31 |
| pH5 | now comes the complicated part, synchronization and data transfer | 13:31 |
| K-Fox | why? | 13:31 |
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| K-Fox | i did works ready it " sudo gainroot " | 13:33 |
| pupnik_ | pH5: http://pupnik.de/dosbox_cvs_08_01_27.tgz | 13:36 |
| pH5 | K-Fox: does 'whoami' say you are root? | 13:36 |
| pH5 | pupnik_: thanks. | 13:37 |
| pH5 | pupnik_: why don't you take over the garage project? | 13:37 |
| pupnik_ | because it's for collaborative work, imo | 13:37 |
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| bedboi | hi all | 13:37 |
| bedboi | anyone is aware of a good upnp client for linux? | 13:38 |
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| LoCusF | has anyone else got any problems with the browser not starting up? | 13:41 |
| proteous | on what device? | 13:42 |
| LoCusF | n810 | 13:44 |
| LoCusF | with latest OS2008 | 13:44 |
| proteous | ah, sorry, only have a 770 | 13:44 |
| LoCusF | oh ok | 13:44 |
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| pH5 | pupnik_: ok, so you're the only one hacking on dosbox until now? | 13:47 |
| pupnik_ | i think so, not sure | 13:47 |
| LoCusF | ok reboot helped out | 13:48 |
| pupnik_ | we could use a faster final blit, improvements in the sound speed | 13:48 |
| K-Fox | i have n800, after upgrading os2008 and trying to set usb networking | 13:49 |
| pupnik_ | also they have a framework that allows for easy dynamic recompilation, so a dynamic recompiler for X86 to ARM is possible | 13:49 |
| K-Fox | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/usbnetworkingwinxp <---- this is right? | 13:49 |
| K-Fox | it's so difficult | 13:49 |
| K-Fox | please tell me how to set usb networking n800<---> winxp | 13:55 |
| K-Fox | my os is maemo 2008 | 13:55 |
| K-Fox | searching for 5 an hour | 13:57 |
| johnx | how far did you get on the guide you just linked? | 13:57 |
| K-Fox | http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/setting_up_usb_networking.html#settingup | 13:57 |
| K-Fox | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/usbnetworkingwinxp <---- this is right? | 13:57 |
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| K-Fox | through google,maemo forum | 13:58 |
| b0unc3 | good morning | 13:58 |
| johnx | mornin' b0unc3 | 13:58 |
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| johnx | K-Fox, the windows xp guide is for OS2006 and the guide for maemo 4 (aka ITOS2008) is for if your desktop computer runs Linux | 13:59 |
| K-Fox | is it possible to connect usbnetworking (n800 <---> winxp)? | 14:01 |
| johnx | yes, I think so | 14:02 |
| K-Fox | how? | 14:02 |
| K-Fox | please tell me some link | 14:02 |
| johnx | I don't really know...I don't even own a machine running windows | 14:02 |
| K-Fox | huh | 14:03 |
| K-Fox | are you running the linux desktop? | 14:03 |
| johnx | yes | 14:04 |
| * n0ob_ too | 14:04 | |
| johnx | K-Fox, What part are you stuck on? | 14:04 |
| hahlo | johnx: your debian works if used in chroot but haven't managed to boot it yet, boot mmc always fails, can i keep it bootloader problem cause chroot /media/mmc /bin/sh works? | 14:06 |
| johnx | hahlo, can you boot OS2008 from mmc card? | 14:06 |
| K-Fox | web browser on n800 | 14:06 |
| K-Fox | etc... | 14:07 |
| hahlo | johnx: i think so that once i did that | 14:07 |
| K-Fox | portble IT based linux | 14:07 |
| johnx | K-Fox, I don't understand. What *step* are you having a problem with? | 14:07 |
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| K-Fox | i need a correct link " n800 <---> winxp ,setting up usp networking " | 14:10 |
| johnx | K-Fox, the links you already posted are the only ones I know of | 14:10 |
| K-Fox | aha | 14:10 |
| K-Fox | ok | 14:11 |
| K-Fox | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/usbnetworkingwinxp <--- this? | 14:11 |
| johnx | K-Fox, maybe searching for "usb networking" on internettablettalk.com/forums will help | 14:11 |
| hahlo | johnx: is there any howto how exactly do with boot loader and partitions with os2008? | 14:11 |
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| K-Fox | ok | 14:12 |
| johnx | hahlo, the guide for OS2007 mostly applies | 14:12 |
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| hahlo | this is not quite correct i notice http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_EASILY_Boot_From_MMC_card | 14:12 |
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| K-Fox | i am from asian | 14:12 |
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| johnx | hahlo, also, even if it doesn't drop you into a GUI it should bring up usb networking. so if you can plug it into a Linux desktop you should be able to at least ssh in | 14:13 |
| hahlo | ok i try that | 14:14 |
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| michele | hello | 14:16 |
| michele | how do I connect to an unannounced AP? | 14:16 |
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| * michele is fighting with fon and power save mode... | 14:17 | |
| michele | I manually added the network and essid, checked "network is hidden", but it doesn't show up anywhere | 14:18 |
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| pupnik_ | pH5: is there anything you want to add to this TODO list for dosbox? anything that's interesting to you? http://pupnik.de/dosbox_todo.txt | 14:20 |
| michele | brb | 14:22 |
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| pH5 | pupnik_: not yet ;) | 14:24 |
| pH5 | this sounds already like a lot of work | 14:25 |
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| * lcuk_2 faught with darth vader last night whilst catwoman and tinkerbell stood watching (and lots of others) | 14:28 | |
| darkip | ok... | 14:29 |
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| lcuk_2 | well all myt jedi training this week paid off. now hopefully i can put my talents to use with linux, but seems a bit more indepth than building a light sabre | 14:30 |
| lcuk_2 | (was a facy dress party and it was gr8) | 14:30 |
| proteous | ENable... | 14:30 |
| michele | sigh.. anybody using networks with hidden ssid? | 14:30 |
| * GeneralAntilles shoots a blaster at lcuk_2. | 14:30 | |
| proteous | no, I just name my network SSID INFLUENZA | 14:31 |
| * lcuk_2 ducks and uses the force to lift GeneralAntilles's cat into the air | 14:31 | |
| proteous | that keeps the rabble out | 14:31 |
| lcuk_2 | set your SSID to NBC_DATELINE and noone will use it | 14:31 |
| proteous | lol | 14:32 |
| darkip | argh, rapidshare is SO annoying | 14:32 |
| lcuk_2 | not with multiple proxies its not | 14:32 |
| michele | ehm.. I'm sorry I don't get the joke.. | 14:32 |
| darkip | hmm, but that's missions to set up... | 14:32 |
| lcuk_2 | michele, dateline is an american program where they lure online stalkers to be arrested | 14:33 |
| GeneralAntilles | Haha | 14:33 |
| michele | oh.. | 14:33 |
| proteous | I moved a SATA drive from one computer to another to transfer some files and the computer ran checkdisk on it at boot and made the drive corupted, then I rebooted and windows ran checkdisk on the drive again and corrected the messup it made but my windows OS directory is gone.... | 14:33 |
| GeneralAntilles | Talk about journalism at its worst. . .. | 14:33 |
| darkip | ouch | 14:33 |
| proteous | windows removed itself it seems | 14:34 |
| proteous | as long as I have my files it's not too bad | 14:34 |
| proteous | windows can be reinstalled | 14:34 |
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| johnx | your copy of windows auto-darwinated? | 14:34 |
| proteous | very strange though | 14:34 |
| proteous | hehe, yeah | 14:34 |
| darkip | darwinateed? | 14:34 |
| johnx | maybe it saw the competition from your tablet... | 14:34 |
| lcuk_2 | windows DID fix itself though, it removed the infection. any chance it left a ubuntu folder in its place | 14:34 |
| proteous | lol, if only | 14:35 |
| johnx | darwin, created of the theory of natural selection, that the most fit creatures survive... | 14:35 |
| lcuk_2 | if that was the case we would still be using Amigas | 14:35 |
| proteous | and BeOS | 14:35 |
| proteous | :P | 14:35 |
| proteous | I guess it depends on how you define "fit" | 14:36 |
| johnx | lcuk_2, I like my protected memory, thanks very much :P | 14:36 |
| johnx | fit = NextStep :) | 14:36 |
| lcuk_2 | i like poking random bytes | 14:36 |
| proteous | if "fit" takes into account the amount of money the creating company has then windows is pretty fit | 14:36 |
| GeneralAntilles | Haha . . . I was picturing Windows turning itself into Darwin. <_< | 14:36 |
| proteous | heh | 14:37 |
| johnx | well, they'll have $50bn less if their purchase of Yahoo goes through... | 14:37 |
| proteous | doubtfull | 14:37 |
| proteous | if it does happen though, I wonder how many yahoo people will quit | 14:37 |
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| proteous | damn you peer!!! | 14:38 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Peer is such an ass. | 14:38 |
| proteous | peer doth givith, and peer doth taketh away | 14:38 |
| proteous | there was a nice article in the onion a long time ago about the arrest of the notorious IRC hacker peer | 14:39 |
| proteous | named peer that is | 14:39 |
| proteous | can't seem to find it though | 14:39 |
| solmumaha | pupnik_: you there? | 14:39 |
| GeneralAntilles | The Onion expires their old editions after a while, don't they? | 14:40 |
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| proteous | maybe it wasn't the onion | 14:40 |
| proteous | hmm | 14:41 |
| proteous | how do I paste into putty without a mouse | 14:41 |
| GeneralAntilles | Sounds a little esoteric for their normal fair. | 14:41 |
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| proteous | peerke.net/peerarrest/IRCNews_com%20Issue%203.htm | 14:42 |
| proteous | had to type that out :P | 14:42 |
| GeneralAntilles | Then I obviously have to click it. :P | 14:43 |
| proteous | :P | 14:43 |
| LoCusF | proteous: shift+insert | 14:44 |
| proteous | http://peerke.net/peerarrest/IRCNews_com%20-%20Issue%203.htm | 14:44 |
| proteous | hehe, thanks :) | 14:45 |
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| LoCusF | np :) | 14:47 |
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| pupnik_ | wow, Jade Raymond (game producer) is very competent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aaMPXDXrK4 | 14:48 |
| lcuk_2 | competent = hot | 14:49 |
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| proteous | lol | 14:54 |
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| solmumaha | pupnik_: http://nakkiboso.com/ja2.png | 14:58 |
| johnx | looks nice | 14:59 |
| solmumaha | seems to run perfectly | 15:00 |
| pH5 | solmumaha: is that straciatella? | 15:00 |
| solmumaha | and speed is great too | 15:00 |
| solmumaha | yes | 15:00 |
| pH5 | solmumaha: very nice :) how are the loading times? | 15:01 |
| solmumaha | feels just like on desktop | 15:01 |
| solmumaha | very fast | 15:01 |
| solmumaha | imo | 15:01 |
| Alendit | hi all | 15:02 |
| pupnik_ | how much data space is required solmumaha ? | 15:02 |
| solmumaha | quite a lot :) | 15:02 |
| * pH5 needs to buy an 8gb microsd now. | 15:02 | |
| solmumaha | let's see | 15:02 |
| pupnik_ | i hope straciatella also has a gamma function | 15:03 |
| solmumaha | 881 mb at the moment, but i left out few files from the game disk | 15:03 |
| solmumaha | so around 1 gb i belive | 15:03 |
| solmumaha | it's not that dark, it started to dim the screen at that point | 15:03 |
| Alendit | pH5, hi, are you THE pH5 of xda-developers? | 15:03 |
| pH5 | Alendit: yes | 15:05 |
| * pH5 doesn't have to remember more than three letters of nickname. | 15:05 | |
| proteous | I <3 tab completion | 15:05 |
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| ustunozgur | how does one copy paste in xchat? i'm using the skyhusker chinook build | 15:09 |
| ustunozgur | right click deselects tthe text | 15:10 |
| Zetx | Have you tried pasting something? In the win32 build once you highlight something it automatically goes to the clipboard :\ | 15:11 |
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| ustunozgur | ah nice :) | 15:12 |
| sp3000 | (not) >:( | 15:12 |
| * sp3000 waves the thanks for confusing selection and clipboard for awesome amounts of people flag at xchat | 15:13 | |
| proteous | ... | 15:13 |
| sp3000 | or, more interestingly, using a rather unprecedented gesture to clobber clipboard | 15:14 |
| proteous | heh | 15:14 |
| * sp3000 just enjoys being annoyed at xchat :) | 15:14 | |
| proteous | irssi > xchat | 15:15 |
| johnx | sp3000, so you xchat or something else? | 15:15 |
| sp3000 | on the tablet? I mostly ssh+screen to an irssi elsewhere | 15:15 |
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| proteous | so I'm not the only one who is l337 | 15:16 |
| * proteous doesn't feel so special | 15:16 | |
| sp3000 | though I xchat+ssh to irssiproxy if I happen to want to irc more on the tablet | 15:16 |
| proteous | irssi + bitlbee.org | 15:17 |
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| keesj | so what is the :latesed: Hacker edition release for the 770? | 15:18 |
| proteous | 2007 | 15:18 |
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| LoCusF | michele: any news on evince? | 15:18 |
| lardman | Debian or Ubuntu, what's the best bet? I've lost patience with Mandrake/iva | 15:19 |
| sp3000 | "yes" | 15:19 |
| proteous | I like debian, although I haven't tried Ubuntu | 15:20 |
| K-Fox | evince is fast to read a data? | 15:20 |
| michele | LoCusF: what kind of news? There are a couple bugs left, but it's good | 15:20 |
| michele | lardman: if you are coming from mandrake, go for ubuntu | 15:20 |
| LoCusF | michele: about the text selection | 15:20 |
| LoCusF | ? | 15:20 |
| K-Fox | than PDF reader? | 15:20 |
| michele | LoCusF: oh, no, nothing sorry | 15:20 |
| LoCusF | ok | 15:21 |
| lardman | michele, proteous: both similarly up-to-date? | 15:21 |
| K-Fox | evince is fast to read a data than PDF reader ? | 15:21 |
| michele | K-Fox: yes, I think it is a bit faster, but uses more memory | 15:21 |
| proteous | I only use debian for non gui stuff | 15:21 |
| K-Fox | it's good | 15:21 |
| Alendit | hmm, anyone know if i can get squashfs for maemo somewhere? or should i compile it by myself? | 15:21 |
| proteous | I hear Ubuntu has a nice gui | 15:21 |
| lardman | proteous: ah, ok | 15:21 |
| michele | lardman: debian sid (the development version) is more up to date than ubuntu release | 15:22 |
| lardman | nice GUI would be nice on occasion | 15:22 |
| sp3000 | michele: not for all packages though | 15:22 |
| johnx | debian sid is also more broken than ubuntu most of the time... | 15:22 |
| lardman | ok, that's the more important point | 15:22 |
| michele | true | 15:22 |
| sp3000 | since ubuntu syncs with gnome rels and debian kinda follows whenever | 15:22 |
| johnx | debian for servers and older machines, ubuntu for newer desktops | 15:22 |
| michele | ubuntu server is fine for servers too | 15:23 |
| proteous | apt-get 4ever | 15:23 |
| michele | aptitude | 15:23 |
| johnx | I prefer Debian's default software choices for servers... | 15:23 |
| LoCusF | open/free/netbsd \o/ | 15:23 |
| proteous | lol | 15:23 |
| proteous | \o\ |o| /o/ | 15:24 |
| proteous | \o/ | 15:24 |
| johnx | Frankly in terms of security/stability I tend to just *trust* the debian guys more than the ubuntu guys...They have the history after all | 15:24 |
| LoCusF | has someone installed a netbsd on n800? | 15:24 |
| johnx | I don't know | 15:24 |
| johnx | people run openbsd on the zaurus | 15:24 |
| proteous | I didn't, I know that | 15:24 |
| lardman | ok, next question, what's the best bet for migrating? It appear that my home partition also contains other directories (probably because it's on a huge disk) | 15:24 |
| proteous | rm -rf / | 15:25 |
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| johnx | I always mv my home directory out of the way and then copy over what I want. I usually leave all my dotfiles behind and consider it a chance to start over... | 15:25 |
| ustunozgur | johnx, but probably debian testing is as stable as ubuntu. I suggest ubunutu however if you are not experienced. | 15:25 |
| Alendit | squashfs? any ideas on that? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mokopedia needs it, and it would be freaking cool to have it on my nokia | 15:26 |
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| lardman | johnx: ok, I'll see how large a tar file I can create :) | 15:26 |
| michele | so, no hints for my hidden ssid problem? | 15:26 |
| michele | anybody connecting to hidden networks? | 15:27 |
| sp3000 | I have | 15:27 |
| michele | great, it seems I can't | 15:27 |
| sp3000 | to one | 15:27 |
| johnx | lardman, hmm? just leave everything on /home alone, except mv your /home/lardman to /home/lardman.bak before installing ubuntu/debian | 15:28 |
| michele | I created the connection, set it as hidden, but it doesn't show up | 15:28 |
| sp3000 | can you make it temporarily (or permanently) not hidden, to check if that's the problem? | 15:28 |
| michele | yes, it's working from my laptop | 15:28 |
| lardman | johnx: parts of /usr are also on that partition | 15:29 |
| michele | and it was not hidden until half an hour ago | 15:29 |
| johnx | lardman, ah you symlinke them in? | 15:29 |
| michele | it's a fon AP | 15:29 |
| johnx | debian/ubuntu will just ignore anything that shows up on /home | 15:29 |
| sp3000 | did you delete the stored connection? maybe it's confused by it having not been hidden | 15:29 |
| lardman | johnx: no, it's a very large disk, so I allowed (foolishly) other parts of the system to reside on the same partition | 15:29 |
| sp3000 | you could just do something random like change the channel | 15:29 |
| michele | let's see | 15:30 |
| michele | I love random troubleshooting... | 15:30 |
| johnx | lardman, is that some wacky mandriva feature? | 15:30 |
| sp3000 | I think I had an issue where somethnig wouldn't find an ap on one end of its available channels, though I think it was my laptop and not the tablet | 15:30 |
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| lardman | johnx: not sure how I did it to be honest | 15:31 |
| johnx | O_o | 15:31 |
| johnx | either way: debian/ubuntu (debuntu?) isn't going to care | 15:31 |
| lardman | except there's lots of rubbish on there which I don't want | 15:31 |
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| johnx | right so scrap everything there except /home/lardman | 15:32 |
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| lardman | ah, I know what I must have done, placed home on the root partition (as last time I ran out of scratchbox space) | 15:32 |
| johnx | aaaah | 15:32 |
| lardman | johnx: but how? | 15:32 |
| johnx | so it's all one partition? | 15:32 |
| lardman | there is a separate one for /usr from the looks of things | 15:33 |
| lardman | he wonders of installer wizards ;) | 15:33 |
| johnx | ok, just pastebin the output of mount :P | 15:33 |
| lardman | am in WinXP as I'm GUI-less in Linux | 15:33 |
| johnx | aaah | 15:34 |
| alterego | Meh, who needs a UI in Linux .. | 15:34 |
| lardman | All kicked off by random freezes -> update Nvidia driver, wrong GCC/kernel version, update kernel, xen so Nvidia won't work | 15:34 |
| lardman | alterego: true | 15:34 |
| alterego | Heh | 15:34 |
| lardman | alterego: but I've had enough of Mandrake anyway, was just nursing it along as I couldn't be bothered to change when it was (just about) wortking | 15:35 |
| alterego | Sounds like some nice old fashioned dependency hell :)# | 15:35 |
| alterego | Urgh, Mandrake?! | 15:35 |
| johnx | gah...*has RH5.1 dependency hell flashback* | 15:35 |
| lardman | yeah Mandrake upgraded as I went along to Mandriva, add extra disks, etc. Mandrake/iva is really quite rubbish for centralised updates (imo anyway) | 15:36 |
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| Alendit | is it normal that make menconfig on maemo kernel gives weird errors? oO | 15:38 |
| johnx | I think I had the same problem :/ | 15:38 |
| johnx | just poke at it's .config by hand I guess :| | 15:38 |
| lardman | Not sure you can run menuconfig | 15:38 |
| lardman | certainly wasn't happy when I did so, so I did as johnx said | 15:38 |
| Alendit | hmkey, menu oldconfig and that editing by hand works | 15:39 |
| * lardman looks forward to running a 32bit Linux system and once again being able to view flash sites | 15:39 | |
| Alendit | lardman ?? | 15:39 |
| Alendit | what system do you use? | 15:40 |
| johnx | yeah, It might be a while until I see a compelling reason to install a 64-bit distro | 15:40 |
| Alendit | got no probs with ubuntu and linux32 | 15:40 |
| lardman | Alendit: crappy Mandrake/iva mix | 15:40 |
| Alendit | i got 64-bit ubuntu | 15:40 |
| lardman | ah, so the compat libs work do they? | 15:40 |
| Alendit | ok, i've got no idea about mandrake | 15:40 |
| johnx | I used to run 64-bit ubuntu but had too many stupid little problems | 15:40 |
| Alendit | yo, compat libs are working | 15:40 |
| lardman | I think I'll settle for 32bit, I've not need for 64bit | 15:41 |
| johnx | that was back in edgy or so maybe... | 15:41 |
| Alendit | yes, there no really difference...it's some sort of wasting if you've got 64-bit cpu and no 64-bit system ^^ i know it's stupid | 15:41 |
| Alendit | and i had to set up chroot in order to install maemo sdk | 15:42 |
| lardman | it installed ok on my system, did it by hand though | 15:42 |
| johnx | I wish Debian would get multiarch figured out... | 15:43 |
| pupnik_ | for searches: binaries of flex, gperf, icu and libicu: http://www.atoker.com/webkit-maemo/ | 15:44 |
| Alendit | someone tried http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mokopedia on maemo? | 15:45 |
| johnx | I haven't tried it but I really should find a good mobile wikipedia solution | 15:48 |
| ustunozgur | i coopied school edition but its contents are very limited | 15:49 |
| Alendit | well, i saw it on neo and it's really cool | 15:49 |
| ustunozgur | also there is the sdict version but i couldn't dl it | 15:49 |
| Alendit | german version feats on 1 gb card | 15:50 |
| Alendit | no idea if you're satisfied with german version ^^ | 15:50 |
| Alendit | englisch should feat on 3,5gb or something like that | 15:50 |
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| Alendit | compiling kernel with squashfs, wish me luck ^^ | 15:51 |
| johnx | good luck | 15:51 |
| johnx | are you building it as a module or into the kernel? | 15:51 |
| Alendit | module | 15:52 |
| Alendit | make modules is running now | 15:52 |
| Alendit | make modules was without errors | 15:53 |
| johnx | yay! | 15:53 |
| Andy80 | hi all | 15:53 |
| johnx | hi | 15:53 |
| lcuk_2 | GREAT, IT COMPILES. SHIP IT NOW!!! ;) | 15:53 |
| GeneralAntilles | Gogogo! | 15:54 |
| Alendit | ^^ | 15:54 |
| GeneralAntilles | That's how Nokia does it, isn't it? | 15:54 |
| lardman | cheers for the advice, time to install Ubuntu, bye | 15:54 |
| Alendit | kinda of, but only with stable releases ^^ | 15:54 |
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| lcuk_2 | not at all, nokia has a very strict policy of removing vital source from the packaging before shipping fully | 15:54 |
| GeneralAntilles | They use some sort of randomized algorithm to choose which sources not to include. | 15:56 |
| Alendit | just a joke, i never seen any unstable thing by nokia (doesn't mean there no) | 15:56 |
| GeneralAntilles | Never? | 15:56 |
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| Alendit | no | 15:57 |
| Alendit | really | 15:57 |
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| Alendit | my n800 got some freezes but due to 3rd party progs | 15:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | Did you ever own a 770? | 15:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | Or use any version of OS2007? | 15:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | Or OS2008? | 15:58 |
| Alendit | no | 15:58 |
| Alendit | no, i bought n800 end of last year and flashed in with 2008 | 15:59 |
| lcuk_2 | GeneralAntilles, in all fairness, from what i have learnt since i got into maemo is that the n800 is the best and most suitable all round (price as well) device nokia has released for it | 15:59 |
| johnx | GeneralAntilles, honestly I haven't had many stability issues with my N800...mostly usability issues | 15:59 |
| GeneralAntilles | Just, fyi, Nokia has shiiped a LOT of unstable software. ;) | 15:59 |
| johnx | (except for the builtin mail app which is completely useless) | 16:00 |
| lcuk_2 | and camera app | 16:00 |
| johnx | yeah, that too | 16:00 |
| johnx | the actual OS has been pretty good though | 16:00 |
| lcuk_2 | and the internet app that randomly closes | 16:00 |
| johnx | the internet closed? | 16:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | Don't get me wrong, though, Alendit, I lurve my tablets, but stability has not been a strong point in the past. ;) | 16:01 |
| lcuk_2 | and the battery charging software that randomly decides you cant switch on your device | 16:01 |
| Alendit | anyone tried this hack to connect an usb keyboard to nokia? | 16:01 |
| Alendit | without otg | 16:01 |
| johnx | I ran into that exactly once, had 30 seconds of freaking out, popped the battery and it was fixed | 16:01 |
| lcuk_2 | johnx, sometimes closing a browser window closes the whole browser app | 16:01 |
| johnx | never had that problem | 16:01 |
| johnx | I don't doubt it exists | 16:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | Sometimes browsing the internet closes the whole browser app. :D | 16:02 |
| lcuk_2 | Alendit, i have a standard usb keyboard usable through my nokia charger cable -> female2female usb then the keyboard | 16:02 |
| Alendit | did you need any additional software for it? | 16:02 |
| Alendit | or you just connected it? | 16:02 |
| lcuk_2 | bOTG is fully backwards compatible with old usb its just devices must stay low powered | 16:02 |
| lcuk_2 | there is a setting which needs to be enabled | 16:03 |
| lcuk_2 | ill just get the shell line for you 2 secs | 16:03 |
| Alendit | i bought an ff adapted yesterday, now waiting for the shipment | 16:03 |
| johnx | I think kontorri's (sp?) usbcontrol removes the need for any shell use... | 16:03 |
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| Alendit | echo otg > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode ? | 16:04 |
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| lcuk_2 | sounds right yer | 16:04 |
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| lcuk_2 | theres the other settings for different modes | 16:04 |
| Alendit | yeah, can't tried it though till i get my adapter :( | 16:05 |
| Alendit | but with usb keyboar (very cheap) n800 is not worse than n810 | 16:06 |
| Alendit | since i don't need GPS | 16:06 |
| Alendit | bzImage is ready | 16:06 |
| lcuk_2 | i grabbed a usb extension from back of old computer and rejigged the cable to make a quick f-f | 16:06 |
| lcuk_2 | http://www.internettablettalk.com/wiki/index.php?title=HOWTO:_USB_Host_mode_on_the_N800_using_OS_2008 | 16:07 |
| lcuk_2 | that looks pretty much like the full outline | 16:07 |
| lcuk_2 | wasnt the one i used. (its buried away somewhere in a pile of links in the backgarden)( | 16:07 |
| Alendit | i wonder if there a way to connect a mouse to n800 | 16:08 |
| Alendit | with cursor and things like that | 16:08 |
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| lcuk_2 | cursor is invisible on n8x0 maemo (tho some apps break and you can see it occasionally) | 16:09 |
| lcuk_2 | its set to a blank pointer so it doesnt get in the way, so a mouse would be impractical, though if you compile up another linux it should just work | 16:09 |
| Alendit | yeas, i know (for example if you xforward amarok to n800 your can see it), is there a way to turn it on? | 16:09 |
| lcuk_2 | dunno, certainly not a desired feature from this end so never examined the possibility | 16:10 |
| johnx | I don't know, but I can at least tell you it's not a limitation of the x-server | 16:10 |
| Alendit | it gives some hope | 16:11 |
| Alendit | ok, i compiled kernel...how can i change kernel in my scatchbox now? | 16:14 |
| johnx | hmm? | 16:15 |
| johnx | now that you've compiled the squashfs.ko module (or whatever it's called) just copy it to your tablet... | 16:16 |
| Alendit | i have new bzImage now, but i don't want to flash my nokia with it without to try it in scratchbox | 16:16 |
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| lcuk_2 | backup first ;) | 16:16 |
| johnx | scratchbox doesn't run kernels | 16:16 |
| Alendit | j0 | 16:16 |
| Alendit | i see it now | 16:16 |
| johnx | also, you don't need to use the new bzImage since you compiled squashfs as a module | 16:16 |
| Alendit | uname -r in scratchbox gives my kernel | 16:17 |
| Alendit | sounds reasonable ^^ but i want to try mokopedia on my pc, cause i don't have any 1gb card | 16:17 |
| johnx | unless the kernel on your PC supports squashfs you're probably out of luck into you recompile it as well | 16:18 |
| Alendit | i should load a squashfs module on my pc | 16:18 |
| johnx | yes :) | 16:18 |
| Alendit | ubuntu has it | 16:18 |
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| pupnik_ | I've got another killer game project idea | 16:24 |
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| michele | sigh, still no luck with this hidden ssid :( | 16:33 |
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| johnx | is there a reason you can't just make it visible? | 16:33 |
| michele | yes | 16:33 |
| michele | a bug | 16:34 |
| johnx | ah :( | 16:34 |
| michele | it's a fon router, with two ssids on the same transceiver, and with power saving enabled the IT gets confused | 16:34 |
| michele | so the workaround is to hide one of the ssids | 16:34 |
| michele | unfortunately, I can only hide the private one, which is the one with WPA | 16:35 |
| michele | the public one is plain | 16:35 |
| michele | disabling power saving I get less than half the battery power :( | 16:36 |
| michele | s/power/lif | 16:36 |
| michele | s/power/life | 16:36 |
| johnx | that's really unfortunate | 16:36 |
| michele | yes... | 16:36 |
| lcuk_2 | battery on the 810 or on the fon router? | 16:36 |
| michele | the router does not have a battery... | 16:37 |
| michele | still, I think the tablet shoult work with hidden networks, it seems to be working for everybody else | 16:37 |
| lcuk_2 | 810 wifi is supposed to be very friendly if the connectio nis not used, does it really take it down by half? | 16:38 |
| michele | yes | 16:38 |
| lcuk_2 | boo | 16:38 |
| michele | if I disable power saving, I mean | 16:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | The powersaving is incredibly effective. | 16:38 |
| lcuk_2 | the GeneralAntilles fallow keeps telling us it is miraculous | 16:38 |
| michele | it is | 16:38 |
| lcuk_2 | see | 16:38 |
| lcuk_2 | wondered when you would chime in gen :P | 16:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | Whenever I damn well please! | 16:39 |
| * GeneralAntilles goes back to playing with x forwarding. :P | 16:39 | |
| lcuk_2 | GeneralAntilles, do you sit there with ceiling cat watching for anyone wanting xchat or dissing the wifi power saving? | 16:39 |
| suihkulokki | complain to fon for their buggy ap | 16:39 |
| GeneralAntilles | I highlight on everything. :P | 16:40 |
| lcuk_2 | you REALLY want your n900 :P | 16:40 |
| GeneralAntilles | Hehe | 16:40 |
| michele | meanwhile, I have built these http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/ | 16:41 |
| lcuk_2 | actually gen, about power saving, my 810 has stopped draining when im not using it. when i switch it back on now its where i left it | 16:41 |
| michele | they work unmodified, but could use some hildonization | 16:41 |
| lcuk_2 | how do i run a .exe file in maemo? ;) | 16:42 |
| GeneralAntilles | dosbox | 16:42 |
| michele | there's the source | 16:43 |
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| Alendit | i've got an idea for a pidgin plugin | 16:43 |
| lcuk_2 | well thats ok then, on related matter, wine wouldnt work would it (because of the x86 code) | 16:43 |
| Alendit | an 'now compiling' plugin ^^ | 16:43 |
| pupnik_ | cool michele | 16:43 |
| qos_ | hey guys, does somebody know where is a good place to ensure that an own script gets executed at startup? | 16:43 |
| johnx | lcuk_2, nope | 16:44 |
| johnx | the some crazy people are using bochs and/or dosbox to run win95/98 | 16:44 |
| lcuk_2 | nice | 16:44 |
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| johnx | qos_, copy it to /etc/init.d and put a link to it in /etc/rc2.d | 16:44 |
| johnx | name the link something like S99myscript | 16:45 |
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| qos_ | johnx, i was thinking about something like that... is there a good reference to read more about the topic? | 16:46 |
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| johnx | qos_, documentation specifically about Nokia's ITOS or Debian/Linux in general? | 16:46 |
| qos_ | johnx, i just care about the starting mechanisem... so, if it is the same on both platforms i dont care | 16:47 |
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| wnd | What is the correct way to start a program at device boot-up as user with environment fully set up (name for D-Bus)? init.d-script would be obvious for root-processes but what about user? Right now I'm using "start-stop-daemon --chuid user", but getting environment properly set for D-Bus seems to require dirty hacks. Maybe I'm doing something terribly wrong. | 16:48 |
| johnx | basically it seems fairly similar to debian, except for a couple things: you have ash on the tablet, not bash. and the startup order is likely slightly different | 16:48 |
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| alterego | Well that's my N800 gone :( | 16:48 |
| michele | ahem.. | 16:49 |
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| johnx | alterego, hmm? | 16:49 |
| * michele clicked a link on his laptop by touching the screen | 16:49 | |
| alterego | I donated it. | 16:49 |
| lcuk_2 | silicon heaven? | 16:49 |
| alterego | No, I gave it away. | 16:49 |
| alterego | Well, swapped it for an N80 | 16:49 |
| darkip | um, why and to who? | 16:49 |
| lcuk_2 | how alturistic of you, i gather you have a replacement | 16:49 |
| alterego | Yes, I've still got the 770 and N810 | 16:50 |
| darkip | ah cool | 16:50 |
| johnx | wnd, I think there are files you can source in something like /etc/af-osso-* | 16:50 |
| darkip | n810 is nice :) | 16:50 |
| lcuk_2 | wicked, spread the nokia love | 16:50 |
| Alendit | michele, tell me moar | 16:50 |
| michele | Alendit: what about? | 16:50 |
| johnx | qos_, so maybe look for a howto on making an init script in debian | 16:50 |
| lcuk_2 | alter, i hope its a good home. remember nokias are for life not just for happy february | 16:51 |
| alterego | Heh | 16:51 |
| Alendit | about a link clicked by touching screen | 16:51 |
| Alendit | touchscreen on laptop? a tablett? | 16:51 |
| lcuk_2 | yer michele, im intruiged about this "touchscreen" concept. ive heard they are gonna be big someday | 16:51 |
| lcuk_2 | i cant imagine touching my crt screen though | 16:52 |
| wnd | johnx, I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but sure, run-standalone.sh can be used to set the environment. (I'm actually saving the environment with "run-stadnalone.sh set >foo" and having the application to process it.) however start-stop-daemon seems to discard the environment, and running run-standalone.sh with start-stop-daemon seems ugly. | 16:52 |
| wnd | please correct me if I'm wrong | 16:52 |
| qos_ | johnx, why have you choosen rc2.d? there are others around | 16:52 |
| johnx | qos_, runlevel 2 is the default runlevel if I remember correctly | 16:53 |
| qos_ | johnx, what about the others? | 16:53 |
| johnx | wnd, you're correct. I really don't know a less hacky way to do it though... | 16:53 |
| michele | lcuk_2: why not, lots of ATMs have crt screens and touch panels :) | 16:53 |
| wnd | talking of setting the environment, I wonder why putenv() won't do the trick. setenv(foo, bar, 1) does. | 16:54 |
| michele | Alendit: ahah, not it was a mistake because I am used to the tablet now | 16:54 |
| johnx | qos_, what about them? they won't be executed when the tablet boots unless you modify /etc/inittab to make it start in a different runlevel | 16:54 |
| wnd | johnx, well, thanks anyway. at least it wasn't anything too obvious. | 16:54 |
| johnx | wnd, I'm really not the right person to ask about the "right" or "elegant" way to do something :) | 16:55 |
| * wnd grins | 16:55 | |
| lcuk_2 | michele - back before touch became the norm i used to hate people touching my monitor | 16:55 |
| * lcuk_2 grrrrrrrrrrrs @ greasy fingerprints | 16:55 | |
| wnd | I guess I'll just hack around it for now | 16:55 |
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| alterego | Thank God for paravirtualization | 16:59 |
| * johnx should really get around to setting that up | 16:59 | |
| michele | hey! I see the network now! | 17:00 |
| johnx | woo! | 17:00 |
| alterego | I see your underwear! | 17:00 |
| qos_ | it really sucks, that there is no hardware TAB at the n810 ... | 17:00 |
| johnx | ctrl-u isn't it? | 17:00 |
| alterego | Heh | 17:00 |
| johnx | ah | 17:00 |
| johnx | ctrl-i | 17:00 |
| johnx | sorry didn't mean to erase that whole line you typed | 17:01 |
| qos_ | hell, why do you know that? | 17:01 |
| johnx | hmm? | 17:01 |
| johnx | I tested ctrl-u in a shell, realized it deleted the line then posted my correction... | 17:02 |
| hahlo | johnx: os2008 boots from mmc but debian doesn't is bootloader then ok? | 17:03 |
| qos_ | its much more comfortable to change tab to the button under the d-pad thing ... ^^ | 17:03 |
| johnx | hahlo, yeah, that means your bootmenu is working fine | 17:04 |
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| johnx | it didn't work for GeneralAntilles either... | 17:04 |
| johnx | hahlo, can you manage to ssh in with usb networking? | 17:04 |
| hahlo | I try that next | 17:05 |
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| K-Fox | i am finding out some files | 17:18 |
| * alterego contemplates getting Linux on his N80 .. | 17:18 | |
| K-Fox | where is maemo-statusbar-usbnet_0.6-.dev? | 17:18 |
| alterego | Yes, you're right .. I'm insane. | 17:18 |
| K-Fox | http://repostory.maemo.org/extras/pool/3.2/free/ here have no | 17:19 |
| johnx | that probably won't work on OS2008... | 17:19 |
| K-Fox | it is so difficult to set usb networking | 17:20 |
| K-Fox | uuuuu..... | 17:27 |
| K-Fox | johnx: this command is right ( sudo /etc/init.d/usbnet start ) ? | 17:33 |
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| K-Fox | usb networking start | 17:33 |
| sp3000 | holy crap, I got a gps fix | 17:35 |
| pupnik_ | Remember the game 'comanche' for the PC? This guy has done a niftly little demo that lets you fly over the comanche data files. Just copy C1.DTA and D1.DTA over to it and run groucom.exe in dosbox. | 17:36 |
| pupnik_ | Grab http://advsys.net/ken/voxlap/groudraw.zip | 17:36 |
| pupnik_ | From http://advsys.net/ken/voxlap.htm | 17:36 |
| pupnik_ | Source is included. There's a little bit of x86 ASM in there, but not too much. Would be a gas to port this to SDL and do a little comanche or scorched3d type game with it. | 17:36 |
| johnx | K-Fox, if you've created the script that the instructions tell you to then it will work | 17:38 |
| darkip | lol | 17:38 |
| darkip | lol | 17:38 |
| darkip | lol | 17:38 |
| darkip | whoops | 17:38 |
| K-Fox | whoops whoops | 17:41 |
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| K-Fox | where is web link of usb networking ? n800 <--> winxp , my os is 2008 | 17:43 |
| keesj | K-Fox: on the maemo wiki | 17:45 |
| keesj | hmm my 770's wifi does not work any more | 17:46 |
| keesj | and when I change my settings (regional) I get a storage full | 17:46 |
| K-Fox | please , on the maeo wiki .................. | 17:48 |
| K-Fox | a correct link........ | 17:48 |
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| zoran | keesj, hardware failure? | 17:48 |
| keesj | you ask for a link right? | 17:48 |
| K-Fox | detail link... | 17:48 |
| solmumaha | pupnik_: want a deb for ja2? | 17:53 |
| solmumaha | seems to work with 2006-2008 | 17:53 |
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| Kggk | Anyone here with an n800 (or better) that would like to test a web app for me? | 17:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | There's nothing better than an N800. :P | 17:58 |
| alterego | The N810 is so much better :P | 17:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | Mr. I'm Happy With 10GB of Storage | 17:59 |
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| solmumaha | alterego: any chance of those debs? | 18:00 |
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| alterego | solmumaha, maybe | 18:02 |
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| alterego | solmumaha, exactly which debs do you need? | 18:08 |
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| solmumaha | those three for chinook | 18:11 |
| alterego | Okay | 18:11 |
| solmumaha | libruby, ruby18 etc | 18:11 |
| solmumaha | i'll mirror them this time, i promise | 18:11 |
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| pupnik_ | solmumaha: sure! :) | 18:16 |
| alterego | solmumaha, http://alterego.freeshell.org/Ruby-Maemo.tar.gz | 18:16 |
| alterego | That's all the base ruby-maemo packages. | 18:16 |
| solmumaha | thanks a lot | 18:16 |
| alterego | Sorry I've been so crap lately. I've just been working 24/7 the past couple of months :( | 18:16 |
| pupnik_ | Kggk your project is certainly interesting. I'm busy right now though :) | 18:17 |
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| solmumaha | hard to test certain things on scratchbox without mplayer | 18:17 |
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| pupnik_ | hey solmumaha you wanna see something really cool? | 18:22 |
| pupnik_ | http://pupnik.de/pupvox.zip | 18:22 |
| pupnik_ | unzip, run from command line, use arrow keys to move | 18:22 |
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| pupnik_ | gonna try to get a few more fps out of that | 18:24 |
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| pupnik_ | jott: you around? | 18:26 |
| jott | yep | 18:26 |
| pupnik_ | check out pupvox :) | 18:26 |
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| jott | nice.. | 18:27 |
| jott | quite fast | 18:27 |
| jott | long time since i last saw a voxel engine ;) | 18:28 |
| zoran | ./c | 18:28 |
| solmumaha | runs nicely | 18:29 |
| pupnik_ | code by Andrea Griffini | 18:30 |
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| solmumaha | now add some enemies and make it delta force | 18:31 |
| pupnik_ | i particularly like how smooth it is compared to other voxel engines | 18:31 |
| solmumaha | pupnik_: you familiar with sdl? i think it would be very easy to bind the few hardware buttons in ja2 | 18:32 |
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| pupnik_ | did you say you have a .deb? | 18:32 |
| solmumaha | can't remember exactly what is needed, but at least +/- to crouch/stand would be nice | 18:32 |
| solmumaha | yes | 18:32 |
| solmumaha | tested it on 2006/hacker too | 18:32 |
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| pupnik_ | just grep SDLK | 18:33 |
| solmumaha | it seems to be playable on 770, just few annoying pauses from time to time and longer loading times | 18:33 |
| solmumaha | i found the file | 18:34 |
| pupnik_ | -if ( (keys[SDLK_F6] == SDL_PRESSED)) { } | 18:34 |
| pupnik_ | or summat | 18:34 |
| pupnik_ | cool | 18:34 |
| solmumaha | k, could try it myself although i'm no programmer | 18:34 |
| solmumaha | must try it on desktop to see what is missing | 18:34 |
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| solmumaha | pupnik_: but here's the deb if you want to test it: http://nakkiboso.com/ja2_0.7_svn.deb | 18:38 |
| pupnik_ | ok will you update that file if you make changes? | 18:38 |
| pupnik_ | or maybe put a tgz up with things you do? | 18:38 |
| solmumaha | i can replace that if i make changes | 18:39 |
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| alterego | Has anyone actually done a decent Java port to maemo ? | 18:41 |
| solmumaha | that expects to find the data from /media/mmc1/ja2data, but you can change it from .ja2/ja2.ini | 18:41 |
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| solmumaha | pupnik_: seems it playable as is, can crouch/shoot etc | 18:49 |
| solmumaha | want to host that on your site? | 18:49 |
| pupnik_ | sure! | 18:49 |
| solmumaha | k, thanks | 18:50 |
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| pupnik_ | alias moe='more' | 20:07 |
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| jott | or as robert browning and mies van der rohe would say, alias less=more | 20:12 |
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| Alendit | hey, isn't there mount in sdk? | 20:29 |
| Alendit | what package do i need to get it? | 20:29 |
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| jott | Alendit: you should use mount on your host system. | 20:31 |
| b0unc3 | Alendit: why you need mount in sdk ? | 20:31 |
| Alendit | want to mount a quashfs image | 20:31 |
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| Alendit | but you are right, i can do it on host | 20:31 |
| pupnik_ | hrm 106 fps in a 400x240 window | 20:37 |
| inz | pup, is that not enough? | 20:37 |
| pupnik_ | sao matsch to lurn | 20:37 |
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| pupnik_ | it's a lot :) | 20:38 |
| Alendit | yeah, mokopedia runs in a scratchbox ^^ | 20:39 |
| Alendit | i can't wait for my 4gb card so i can try it on n800 | 20:39 |
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| pupnik_ | inz: check this out: http://pupnik.de/newvox | 20:40 |
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| GeneralAntilles | pupnik_, when do I get to shoot things? :P | 20:46 |
| inz | i dont want to find out any fun games | 20:47 |
| inz | they take too much time | 20:47 |
| pupnik_ | just playing with the algorithm GeneralAntilles | 20:48 |
| alterego | Is that what you kids are calling it now-a-days. | 20:49 |
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| czr | hmm. does N810 display virtual multi-SSID networks? | 21:45 |
| czr | (different SSID, same AP MAC) | 21:45 |
| czr | I'm only seeing one | 21:45 |
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| proteous | does the n810 server me cherry pies, mine doesn't seem to be serving me cherry pies | 21:47 |
| proteous | :) | 21:47 |
| proteous | and I totaly want | 21:48 |
| proteous | MORE PIES PLEASE | 21:48 |
| proteous | in other notes: I have no idea if the n810 displays virtual multi-SSID networks | 21:48 |
| proteous | Some people do call me the AP Mac though | 21:49 |
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| Alendit | hi, can someone test for me if there any error with modprobe on os2008? | 22:06 |
| Alendit | ich get modprobe: cannot parse modules.dep | 22:07 |
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| jott | Alendit: for some stupid reason depmod is missing in os2008, either build it or use insmod with the full path of the module.. | 22:10 |
| Alendit | ok, thanks | 22:10 |
| LinuxCode | any of you use gpesyncd with the opensync stuff ? | 22:11 |
| LinuxCode | it synced once now it wont work | 22:12 |
| LinuxCode | I made a ssh-key | 22:12 |
| LinuxCode | thats fine | 22:12 |
| LinuxCode | http://cleardefinition.com/page/Sync_Evolution_and_GPE_on_N800/ | 22:14 |
| LinuxCode | followed this | 22:14 |
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| Alendit | can someone tell me, why a program compile if i fire up make, doesn't with dpkg-buildpackage -b -rfakeroot? oO | 22:45 |
| Jaffa | Would need to see the whole log | 22:45 |
| Alendit | mom | 22:45 |
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| SudoMakeMeSamich | yes dear | 22:47 |
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| Alendit | lol | 22:49 |
| Alendit | mom like moment | 22:49 |
| SudoMakeMeSamich | heh, ah | 22:50 |
| Jaffa | Damn. I've got a new toy itch. Hopefully a female/female USB adapter for my N810 and some goodness with USB host will sait me | 22:50 |
| SudoMakeMeSamich | :) | 22:51 |
| Alendit | jaffa, http://pastebin.org/18041 | 22:52 |
| lcuk_2 | jaffa, minutes after connecting it, gleefully typing a web url with usb keyboard, seeing contents on your mem stick and possibly trying to wiggle a mouse you disconnect and move onto the next thing for a few weeks. | 22:52 |
| lcuk_2 | (and probably get a bluetooth keyboard because you got wireless device, damn it looks ugly with all those tethers | 22:53 |
| Alendit | Jaffa, sry there no error in that paste :( | 22:54 |
| Alendit | just output of 1 | 22:54 |
| czr | ok. I think there's a 'misfeature" somewhere in n810 then | 22:54 |
| czr | it doesn't support multi-ssid networks if they have the same MAC. it only displays the "last one" of that same MAC. | 22:55 |
| lcuk_2 | gps so slow you arrive at destination before you get a lock? | 22:55 |
| konttori | pupnik_: those comments were all features, not bugs ;) | 22:55 |
| konttori | pupnik_: the comment on the old 2006 nuvoblack. | 22:56 |
| Alendit | Jaffa, http://pastebin.org/18042 | 22:56 |
| Alendit | any ideas? | 22:56 |
| czr | does os2008 come with any command line wireless/diagnostics tools? | 22:59 |
| acydlord | not by default, but there is a wirelesstools package | 23:01 |
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| pupnik_ | konttori: i'll post a screenshot or two, and maybe look into the .deb | 23:03 |
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| pupnik_ | cheers | 23:04 |
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| LinuxCode | [20:55] lcuk_2 gps so slow you arrive at destination before you get a lock? | 23:06 |
| LinuxCode | lool | 23:06 |
| SudoMakeMeSamich | the sad thing is that lcuk_2 gets lost going to the corner store | 23:07 |
| SudoMakeMeSamich | it takes him twice as long, 2 minutes to lock the GPS, then 2 minutes to get there | 23:08 |
| lcuk_2 | i dont get lost as such, i just have to follow the bus route home. | 23:08 |
| acydlord | my 810 is supposed to be here tuesday, i may take off work weds so i can play with it lol | 23:08 |
| SudoMakeMeSamich | heh | 23:08 |
| lcdd | my first n810 got returned because i thought the gps was broken | 23:08 |
| SudoMakeMeSamich | lol | 23:08 |
| lcuk_2 | how did they manage to return it? | 23:08 |
| lcdd | i did | 23:08 |
| acydlord | maybe they didnt use a gps that attained lock faster because they figured most of us geeks actually know how to get out of our neighborhood without needing gps | 23:09 |
| SudoMakeMeSamich | just cheap | 23:09 |
| SudoMakeMeSamich | same GPS they have in some of the phones, it was made to be cell assisted | 23:09 |
| acydlord | i was a bit angry at that article about nokias profit margin being so huge | 23:09 |
| SudoMakeMeSamich | which doesn't work in the IT | 23:09 |
| acydlord | it's cause they shafted us developers for christmas | 23:09 |
| lcuk_2 | i think there is a knack to the gps - it involves something like standing with keyboard open and lay flat on its back whilst being stroked by a nubile angel | 23:09 |
| SudoMakeMeSamich | hmm | 23:10 |
| SudoMakeMeSamich | sounds fun | 23:10 |
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| lcuk_2 | it works for me so why shouldnt it work for the nokia ;0 | 23:10 |
| acydlord | i have a feeling i'm gonna use the holux bluetooth gps module for my n810 when i actually need to rely on gps | 23:11 |
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| SudoMakeMeSamich | okay, why is a windows audio driver 30 frickin MB | 23:11 |
| SudoMakeMeSamich | LKSJDL:FJ)!*()@#$ | 23:11 |
| SudoMakeMeSamich | wtf is in there! | 23:11 |
| SudoMakeMeSamich | a dump of wikipedia? | 23:11 |
| acydlord | a rootkit | 23:11 |
| lcuk_2 | acydlord, why bother, once it gets a lock its rock steady (well, within a few mph anyway) | 23:11 |
| SudoMakeMeSamich | even a rootkit can fint in 2k | 23:11 |
| acydlord | and the tears of steve balmer | 23:11 |
| SudoMakeMeSamich | 30mb??? | 23:12 |
| SudoMakeMeSamich | there'd better be a flight sim hidden in there | 23:12 |
| Esworp | Has anyone had a problem downloading files throough the browser in os2008? | 23:12 |
| acydlord | lcuk, mostly because a good part of my gps use will be offroad in the boonies | 23:12 |
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| lcuk_2 | ive not had it drop a lock yet with city driving, as long as you have a clear sky (and a 20minute head start) you can get anywhere | 23:13 |
| SudoMakeMeSamich | lol | 23:13 |
| glass_ | you'll have easier conditions without building around you | 23:13 |
| glass_ | buildings | 23:13 |
| Esworp | Nothing wants to download here. At first, the app conplained of insuffiicient memory, whenthere was plenty. But now it jus lists the item and it stalls away. | 23:14 |
| Esworp | Any thoughs? | 23:15 |
| LinuxCode | sorry lcuk_2 | 23:15 |
| LinuxCode | there was meant to be a LOL | 23:15 |
| LinuxCode | behind that | 23:15 |
| LinuxCode | and hi ;-} | 23:15 |
| lcuk_2 | evening | 23:16 |
| LinuxCode | any of you use gpesyncd ? | 23:16 |
| LinuxCode | to sync the gpe stuff from the N810 to evolution ? | 23:16 |
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| Esworp | Erming /did/ work for me to get things on google calendar. | 23:21 |
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| Tama^2 | Hello folks | 23:23 |
| SudoMakeMeSamich | OMGHI2U | 23:23 |
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| blast007 | is there an easy way to recover data off a non-bootable N800? (it's doing a reboot loop) | 23:30 |
| GeneralAntilles | You have auto-connect and ssh enabled? | 23:32 |
| lcuk_2 | and can you type REALLY quickly | 23:32 |
| GeneralAntilles | ... | 23:32 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yeah, no, lcuk_2. :P | 23:32 |
| GeneralAntilles | flasher tool . . . | 23:32 |
| lcuk_2 | thats the cheats way out :P | 23:32 |
| * GeneralAntilles is a cheater. | 23:33 | |
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| lcuk_2 | i was making a nokia n810 executive "lie on the bed and be able to rest arm and write on the screen without injuring wrist because nokia is embedded in a deep resess in a plank of wood" device. | 23:35 |
| Esworp | Dammit this browser glitch is frustrating. I have no clue what to do, and work to be done. | 23:37 |
| lcuk_2 | is it a specific site, or if you try to download from anywhere | 23:37 |
| blast007 | GeneralAntilles: nope, don't have SSH | 23:37 |
| Esworp | Anywhere. Large files create an memory complaint and stall, little ones just stall. | 23:38 |
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| lcuk_2 | so its downloading the file thats the problem, not listing the proceeding webpage | 23:40 |
| Esworp | Oddly, if i leave a file to stall, open some other program, or swiitch to one, when i come back to file is not listed anymore. | 23:40 |
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| Esworp | Right, pages are rendering fine. | 23:40 |
| GeneralAntilles | blast007, then you're basically screwed. | 23:41 |
| blast007 | k ;) | 23:41 |
| lcuk_2 | your memory card that its trying to save to isnt full by any chance is it? | 23:41 |
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| blast007 | which one would it try saving to? | 23:41 |
| lcuk_2 | i dunno, check all of the memory cards for space | 23:42 |
| blast007 | k | 23:42 |
| lcuk_2 | see if any are running on empty | 23:42 |
| Esworp | Nope, and they aren't hung up in a read only error either. The downloads even behave this way when saving to the builtin memory. | 23:42 |
| lcuk_2 | was just a thought | 23:43 |
| Esworp | Sure, i was hoping that was it, too. | 23:43 |
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| lcuk_2 | you could try clearing internet cache if it exists on 810? | 23:44 |
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| Esworp | I did. :) | 23:44 |
| Esworp | I did. :) No change on this n800 | 23:44 |
| GeneralAntilles | blast007, after you reflash, follow the steps here: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8631 | 23:45 |
| lcuk_2 | could it be a webaddin problem ? | 23:45 |
| GeneralAntilles | That's give you three things: a bootable backup for swift recoveries day or night, USB networking immediately at boot for recoveries from those REALLY bad crashes, and the ability to boot other stuff like johnx's Debian. | 23:46 |
| dskippy | Does anyone know of any bluetooth headsets that work well on the n800? It apparently doesn't support A2DP which is what most headsets use. | 23:46 |
| blast007 | GeneralAntilles: okay, cool, thanks | 23:46 |
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