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| zach | hmm, anyone like skype? | 00:35 |
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| Cptnodegard | my n800 has shipped ^^ | 01:12 |
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| Mousey | ^_^ | 01:26 |
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| Cptnodegard | usb otg cable is ready, so is keyboard, power pack on the way and so is leather case ^^ | 01:27 |
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| Mousey | n800 has otg? i thot it was standard mini | 01:28 |
| Cptnodegard | yeah, but with os2008 it has otg capabilites - all you need is a cable | 01:28 |
| Cptnodegard | either a standard mini-b to female a and use manual switching to otg, or a hacked cable that does it automatically | 01:29 |
| Mousey | wild | 01:29 |
| Mousey | i empathize with your glee. i just got my n810 for christmas [thanks santa!] and am brimming with <3s | 01:29 |
| Cptnodegard | lol | 01:30 |
| Cptnodegard | i spent my christmas gift money on it | 01:30 |
| Cptnodegard | it was on sale, seeing the n810 is out | 01:30 |
| Mousey | ^_^ | 01:31 |
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| Mousey | i wanna get an n800 now too, so i can put 2 32GB SD cards in, and plug it into my n810 as a slave.. yay slavery! | 01:32 |
| Cptnodegard | 810 seems really nice with gps and keyboard, but microUSB and lack of dual SDHC slots is bugging me | 01:32 |
| Cptnodegard | LOL | 01:32 |
| Mousey | it is really nice. the 770/800 has always been kindofa dealbreaker without a keyboard for me.. but you're right, miniSD is craptastic | 01:33 |
| Cptnodegard | dunno if there is any way of getting usb otg on the n810, but you could just use a HDD if there is | 01:33 |
| Mousey | it's otg, out the gate. microUSB and all | 01:33 |
| Mousey | +being | 01:33 |
| Cptnodegard | mines fos school use so id rather have a full size keyboard | 01:33 |
| Cptnodegard | it comes with an adapter? | 01:33 |
| Mousey | i think it's just how it is | 01:33 |
| Mousey | from what i've read anyway | 01:33 |
| Cptnodegard | well you need an adapter to get USB stuff into the microUSB port | 01:34 |
| Mousey | haven't tried getting a drive plugged into it yet, but i'm a fem-fem adapter away from doing it | 01:34 |
| Mousey | nah, the cable it comes with has a regular A connector, i just need a a-to-a converter | 01:34 |
| Cptnodegard | ah ic | 01:34 |
| Cptnodegard | i have a shitload of miniUSB devices, so im very glad the n800 ahs one. | 01:35 |
| Mousey | it's an ugly solution, and up there with miniSD in terms of bad design idea | 01:35 |
| Cptnodegard | microsd would be better than minisd... as i havent heard of miniSDHC | 01:35 |
| Mousey | yup, it exists | 01:35 |
| Mousey | and i'll probably wind up getting microSD anyway simply because i can get it in 8gb and mini only comes in 6 [that i can find] | 01:36 |
| Mousey | half my kingdom for an n820 with a fullsized SD slot tho [or two] | 01:36 |
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| Cptnodegard | two | 01:37 |
| Cptnodegard | ftw | 01:37 |
| Mousey | ^_^ | 01:37 |
| Cptnodegard | over here there only is 16GB cards atm... but even 32GB flash memory pwn | 01:38 |
| Cptnodegard | s | 01:38 |
| Mousey | 32gb cards in january | 01:38 |
| Mousey | i donno if that's universal, but that's toshiba at least | 01:38 |
| Mousey | i wonder where "over here" is | 01:38 |
| Cptnodegard | norway | 01:38 |
| Mousey | woah | 01:38 |
| Cptnodegard | land of the doomed | 01:38 |
| Mousey | yah, over there | 01:38 |
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| Cptnodegard | lol | 01:39 |
| Cptnodegard | u are? | 01:39 |
| Mousey | california | 01:39 |
| Cptnodegard | ah | 01:39 |
| sbaturzio | Aloha! | 01:39 |
| Mousey | land of the bizzare | 01:39 |
| Cptnodegard | well you might be shocked that i paid 360 bucks for my n800 then | 01:39 |
| Mousey | that's hawaii, but yea, that's the next stop from here ;) | 01:39 |
| Mousey | not really.. i don't really know waht they go for | 01:39 |
| Cptnodegard | a 810 costs 650 | 01:39 |
| Cptnodegard | stuff normally cost twice here what they do in the us | 01:40 |
| Cptnodegard | saleries make up for it | 01:40 |
| Mousey | that must be some mythical norse currency | 01:40 |
| Cptnodegard | but normally shocks people | 01:40 |
| Cptnodegard | im talking USD | 01:40 |
| Mousey | ok, then yah, that's a bit of a shock | 01:40 |
| sbaturzio | I've noticed that connecting the N800 with OS2008 with an USB cable, the Internal SD card is mounted instead of the external one: is there a way to change which SD card is mounted thru an USB cable? | 01:40 |
| astro76 | sbaturzio, they should both be | 01:41 |
| Cptnodegard | both should be mounted, sbaturzio | 01:41 |
| Mousey | sbaturzio: is it possible the external card is a subdirectory in the internal mount somewhere? | 01:41 |
| sbaturzio | uhm....no, only one is mounted | 01:41 |
| Mousey | wild | 01:41 |
| sbaturzio | no, they should be mounted under the /media dir | 01:41 |
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| sbaturzio | before, with OS2007, only the external was mounted | 01:42 |
| Cptnodegard | what OS? | 01:42 |
| sbaturzio | now I'm using OS2008 | 01:42 |
| Cptnodegard | for computer :9 | 01:42 |
| sbaturzio | Debian Sid | 01:42 |
| Cptnodegard | never heard of it o.o | 01:43 |
| sbaturzio | from syslog I can see only one card is recognized | 01:43 |
| sbaturzio | as sda | 01:43 |
| Cptnodegard | if both have been mounted at one time, it sounds like an issue with the computer, but im no expert | 01:43 |
| Mousey | sbaturzio: cat /proc/partitions | 01:43 |
| Mousey | see any unmounted partitions that look external? | 01:43 |
| sbaturzio | no, I see my other USB external disk as sdb | 01:44 |
| sp3000 | is the other card being used in a way that would prevent it being unmounted to be mounted by the other machine, or something? | 01:44 |
| sbaturzio | but no sdc or other disks | 01:44 |
| Mousey | sp3000 <-- what he said | 01:44 |
| Mousey | are you playing music or something? or is there an app open or something? | 01:45 |
| sbaturzio | on N800? no | 01:45 |
| Mousey | maybe lsof from an xterm on the n800? | 01:45 |
| sbaturzio | mmm...don't see any opened files on lsof | grep mmc | 01:46 |
| Mousey | is there a concept of "unmount" on the n800? can you maybe unmount or remount the card and see if it shows up in syslog? | 01:46 |
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| sbaturzio | except for the usual one, like cover_switch, hald-adon-mmc | 01:46 |
| * Mousey doesn't have an external card yet - | 01:46 | |
| sbaturzio | Mousey: ok, let me try | 01:46 |
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| sbaturzio | Mousey: can't umount SD cards: device or resource busy | 01:47 |
| sbaturzio | (with usb cable disconnected) | 01:47 |
| sp3000 | oh, yeah, caps lock | 01:47 |
| * sp3000 turns off the second language and notes that tapping the language code in the vkb launches this input config dialog ...that's ...really frequently enough needed to be right there eh | 01:48 | |
| jga | any update on the repositories? | 01:49 |
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| sp3000 | not that it's wouldn't make sense as a first use thing for the dual-language case, but... | 01:49 |
| sbaturzio | maybe SD cards must be formatted in a special way? | 01:50 |
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| Mousey | sbaturzio: oooh good question | 01:50 |
| Mousey | in fact, i have a question | 01:50 |
| astro76 | sbaturzio, yeah good question, wonder if it has to be fat32 to be mounted via usb | 01:50 |
| Mousey | does OS2008 handle ext3? can i format my card ext3? or am i stuck using vfat? | 01:51 |
| sbaturzio | from # mount command I can see they both are vfat formatted | 01:51 |
| * sp3000 would expect anything the thing at the other end of the cable can handle to be ok | 01:51 | |
| sp3000 | sbaturzio: does dmesg tell you anything useful? | 01:52 |
| sbaturzio | wait...in my /etc/fstab there is only one row for SD cards | 01:52 |
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| sbaturzio | sp3000: dmesg? let me try to extract an SD card to see what's happens... | 01:52 |
| * sp3000 has outsourced all this to gnomehalmagicunicorn | 01:52 | |
| sbaturzio | uh..who is Menelaus? :) | 01:53 |
| sbaturzio | sp3000: no errors from dmesg mounting the externa card | 01:54 |
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| sp3000 | sounds like sparta | 01:54 |
| sbaturzio | is this interesting? "mmci-omap mmci-omap.1: command timeout (CMD8)" | 01:54 |
| sp3000 | I was mostly wondering if the sid goes obviously wtf in dmesg when you plug the usb in | 01:55 |
| * sp3000 can't tell interesting from not in this case :) | 01:56 | |
| Mousey | brb | 01:56 |
| sbaturzio | sp3000: dmesg ffrom debian calls only for one sd device | 01:57 |
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| sbaturzio | let me reformat the external card | 02:01 |
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| Mousey | aw | 02:03 |
| Mousey | i was gonna suggest trying the card in the machine you're tryna mount it in first | 02:03 |
| Mousey | like directly instead of thru the tablet | 02:04 |
| sbaturzio | Mousey: mounting the sd card with an USB-SD adapter works fine | 02:05 |
| sbaturzio | the filesystem on it it's clean | 02:05 |
| Mousey | ah. ok | 02:05 |
| Mousey | so it's not funniness with the card =) | 02:05 |
| sbaturzio | now I want to try to move all files out from the sd, format the card with the n800 and then retry | 02:06 |
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| sp3000 | what if you only have that card in the device, in one slot, in the other slot ... | 02:13 |
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| sbaturzio | sp3000: mmm...was thinking the same...let me try to swap the cards | 02:14 |
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| sbaturzio | uhm....still mount only the "internal card" | 02:16 |
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| astro76 | it mounts on the n800? just not over USB? | 02:19 |
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| sbaturzio | aspiers: yes: n800 works perfectly | 02:20 |
| sbaturzio | is connecting the n800 with an usb cable that I can see only one sd | 02:20 |
| sbaturzio | the curious thing is that both sd cards are unavailable from the n800 when connected to the pc | 02:20 |
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| bummie | sbaturzio, you habe uninstalled some packages ? | 02:21 |
| sbaturzio | uninstalled?...no AFAIR | 02:22 |
| astro76 | sbaturzio, yes mounting over USB unmounts on the device | 02:23 |
| astro76 | hmm, I opened the external door, got a warning, closed it again, and now I can't mount it anymore over USB | 02:23 |
| astro76 | with a warning it's in use | 02:23 |
| sbaturzio | astro76: was mounted before opnening the door? | 02:24 |
| astro76 | yes | 02:24 |
| astro76 | rebooted, and still can't mount over USB | 02:25 |
| sbaturzio | astro76: ah! Nice one | 02:25 |
| astro76 | and it's not mounted on the device anymore either, damn | 02:25 |
| astro76 | seems it doesn't play well with hot swapping the cards | 02:26 |
| astro76 | haven't tried it since OS2007 | 02:26 |
| sbaturzio | what do you see in your N800 /etc/fstab ? | 02:26 |
| sbaturzio | astro76: with OS2007 only the external card was mounte with USB, now with OS2008 only the internal one :) | 02:26 |
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| Mousey | sigh, if i could only get fuse, or samba | 02:39 |
| Mousey | WTF!? how do you update the n810 without windows?? | 02:42 |
| astro76 | there is a linux flasher | 02:44 |
| astro76 | and mac | 02:44 |
| Mousey | am i just not googling enough? | 02:44 |
| astro76 | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithLinux | 02:44 |
| Mousey | tx | 02:45 |
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| sbaturzio | wait! maybe I got it....someone could tell me which permission have the /media/mmc1 directory, please? | 02:45 |
| Mousey | 777? ^_^ | 02:46 |
| Mousey | that'll guarantee success | 02:46 |
| sbaturzio | and the mmc2? | 02:46 |
| Mousey | ok, first of all, taking my advice could be disasterous | 02:46 |
| Mousey | but i'm not sure perms are your problem | 02:46 |
| astro76 | they are 777, user.root | 02:46 |
| sbaturzio | astro76: with sd mounted? | 02:46 |
| Mousey | well if they're all 777 already then it's -certainly- not the prob ;) | 02:46 |
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| astro76 | yes | 02:47 |
| sbaturzio | and with card unmounted? | 02:47 |
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| astro76 | 755, root.root | 02:48 |
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| sbaturzio | astro76: uhm...same here... | 02:49 |
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| sbaturzio | strange...once connected with usb cable, both sd cards are unmounted inside the n800 | 02:52 |
| astro76 | that's normal | 02:53 |
| astro76 | very bad to mount a partition in two places | 02:53 |
| Mousey | unless multipathing! ^_^ | 02:55 |
| Mousey | j/k | 02:55 |
| * Mousey envisions perverted n800 RAID CLUSTERS!! | 02:55 | |
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| sbaturzio | astro76: that means OS2008 is working properly....maybe the trouble are on the other end | 02:56 |
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| astro76 | sbaturzio, that seems likely | 02:57 |
| zacchh | how do you get root access on osso xterm? | 02:57 |
| Mousey | ssh root@localhost | 02:58 |
| Mousey | wait, i was shutting up, sorry | 02:58 |
| zacchh | Rofl | 02:59 |
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| Pio | Mousey, heh hello | 03:11 |
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| Mousey | hayyo Pio! | 03:15 |
| Mousey | u have a nokia too? | 03:15 |
| Pio | yeah 770 | 03:15 |
| Mousey | werd | 03:15 |
| Pio | you have an n810? | 03:15 |
| Mousey | yah, thanks santa! | 03:15 |
| Pio | i actually have 2 770s heh | 03:15 |
| Mousey | doh! | 03:15 |
| Pio | yeah nice one :) | 03:15 |
| Mousey | yah, the 810 is phenominal | 03:15 |
| Mousey | tho it makes me wanna get an n800 to use as external storage.. of course the trials of sbaturzio are kind of a turnoff | 03:16 |
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| sbaturzio | bah....I give up. Maybe tomorrow.... | 03:24 |
| sbaturzio | Bye | 03:24 |
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| Mousey | bye y'all | 03:26 |
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| scruggs | can anyone confirm that building the maemo dev kit + scratchbox is still not working? I've been trying for over a week with no luck | 04:29 |
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| dospod | hey | 04:40 |
| dospod | anybody here? | 04:42 |
| dospod | guess not | 04:45 |
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| dospod | anybody here to answer some questions? | 05:14 |
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| Dregz | questions about what? | 05:23 |
| Dregz | dospod^^ | 05:24 |
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| dospod | os 2008 and apps on it | 05:31 |
| dospod | why is it that nicotine and squishee aren't loading or is that normal? | 05:31 |
| dospod | and how long should I wait for kinks in the os to be fixed? | 05:31 |
| astro76 | the repositories are messed up until the Nokia folk return from vacation | 05:33 |
| dospod | well I found out about the spelling error in the repo | 05:34 |
| dospod | I installed nicotine and squishe just fine | 05:34 |
| dospod | they are in the menu | 05:34 |
| dospod | I click on them and they say loading , but they never open | 05:35 |
| dospod | pidgin , and the browser work , and so does transmission | 05:35 |
| astro76 | it's not a spelling error actually... *.maemo.org points to stage.maemo.org, but I digress | 05:35 |
| dospod | well in the extras in the application manager they added a i in repostory which wouldnt let me install apps | 05:35 |
| astro76 | sounds like a problem with those individual apps then | 05:35 |
| dospod | I took away the i and then the apps installed | 05:35 |
| astro76 | dospod, repository.maemo.org is what you should use, but there is a problem with the akamai setup at the moment | 05:36 |
| dospod | I like the os , its polished , I like os 2007 but I wish these apps work | 05:36 |
| dospod | I changed it to repostory.maemo.org and the python libs and stuff installed | 05:37 |
| dospod | its just squishee and nicotine won't open | 05:37 |
| dospod | and I miss xchat but thats not ported yet , so I guess Il have to wait or vpn either way that won't hurt me too bad | 05:38 |
| astro76 | yeah I'm waiting for xchat too | 05:40 |
| Luria | eh? | 05:41 |
| Luria | im on xchat right now | 05:41 |
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| admin_ | hey, just running aircrack-ng on the n770. When running, the unicode/characters go a bit crazy and it's not in standard english chars. Any idea how to fix that? | 05:42 |
| dospod | Luria ur on xchat in os 2008? | 05:43 |
| Luria | yes | 05:44 |
| Luria | one sec | 05:44 |
| Luria | ill dcc the deb | 05:44 |
| Dregz | http://zeus.rm-fr.net/~skyhusker/xchat-chinook-betas/ | 05:45 |
| Dregz | you want the bottom link | 05:45 |
| Dregz | others are language packs | 05:46 |
| dospod | thx for the link | 05:47 |
| Luria | yeah thats it | 05:52 |
| Luria | sorry, chatting with a cute lady about cameras | 05:52 |
| dospod | lol its ok I know how chatting and cute girls goes | 05:53 |
| dospod | Im a teenager lol | 05:53 |
| dospod | brb in like 5 sec | 05:56 |
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| astro76 | he's late, darn kids | 05:57 |
| * astro76 shakes fist | 05:57 | |
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| dospod | back | 05:59 |
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| dospod | anybody know where I can get a nmap it2008 package | 06:04 |
| dospod | if they is 1 that would be badass | 06:05 |
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| shack008n | is just me or this does NOT play on the n800? http://youtube.com/watch?v=nLvVeXqV-u8 | 06:23 |
| dospod | oo would eat ram on here | 06:26 |
| GAN800 | It's just you. | 06:26 |
| GAN800 | Playback is fine over here. | 06:28 |
| dospod | it runs on 2008 fine | 06:29 |
| dospod | but the apps in the movie hell no lol | 06:29 |
| GAN800 | It's x-forwarding, dospod. | 06:32 |
| dospod | but thats lame :p | 06:33 |
| dospod | i want it in my apps list | 06:33 |
| GAN800 | wait for the omap3430 | 06:34 |
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| jga | anybody able to install python in scratchbox? | 06:41 |
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| shack0081 | even more strange (ssl_error_bad_mac_alert) when opening garage, wtf is wrong here? | 06:56 |
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| sandyang | :) | 07:25 |
| dospod | hey | 07:25 |
| sandyang | g`noon! | 07:26 |
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| dospod | its night but hey | 07:27 |
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| sandyang | are you come from US? | 07:30 |
| dospod | yes | 07:30 |
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| dospod | one of the few american nokia consumers | 07:33 |
| sandyang | what did u do at home in night usually? | 07:33 |
| dospod | im 15 | 07:33 |
| dospod | so when i can i leave and drink | 07:33 |
| sandyang | a student? | 07:34 |
| dospod | but i just got home tonite so im home tonite | 07:34 |
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| dospod | student in hs | 07:34 |
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| sandyang | why not buy nokia phone in ur city? | 07:35 |
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| dospod | cdma carrier | 07:36 |
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| dospod | and everyone else wants a iphone or sidekick or razr | 07:36 |
| Luria | dospod, you still need nmap? | 07:37 |
| astro76 | dospod, triple yuck | 07:37 |
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| astro76 | but yeah, currently Verizon Wireless doesn't have a single Nokia model :( apparently Nokia is working on it's US presence | 07:38 |
| dospod | nmap would be cool | 07:38 |
| dospod | im on sprint/nextel | 07:38 |
| astro76 | both cdma | 07:38 |
| Luria | ah crap | 07:39 |
| dospod | sanyo/samsung/htc are sprints main brands | 07:39 |
| dospod | and ii know im on cdma | 07:39 |
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| astro76 | clearly, but perhaps you didn't know about vzw | 07:40 |
| dospod | i knew too | 07:40 |
| dospod | phone geek | 07:40 |
| dospod | :] | 07:40 |
| dospod | im the nerd in a jock disguise | 07:41 |
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| astro76 | I've been sticking with LG lately, but Samsung is also nice... I am done with Motorola | 07:41 |
| dospod | try again luria | 07:41 |
| Mitt4Prez | Mitt Romney is dedicated to defending our country! | 07:41 |
| Mitt4Prez | "Jihadism – violent, radical, fundamental Islam – is this century’s nightmare. It follows the same dark path as last century’s nightmares: fascism and Soviet communism. Many still fail to comprehend the extent of the threat posed by radical Islam, specifically by those extremists who promote violent Jihad against the United States and the universal values Americans espouse. Yet, the consequences | 07:41 |
| Mitt4Prez | of ignoring this threat – such as a radicalized Islamic actor possessing nuclear weapons – are simply unacceptable." | 07:41 |
| Mitt4Prez | Mitt Romney for President 2008 Our only chance for security. | 07:41 |
| Mitt4Prez | Vote Mitt Romney | 07:41 |
| Luria | kb, please | 07:41 |
| astro76 | apparently only the Finns and Koreans can make excellent phones ;) | 07:41 |
| dospod | i got a samsung upstae | 07:41 |
| dospod | kb? | 07:42 |
| Luria | k/b | 07:42 |
| Luria | kick ban | 07:42 |
| astro76 | Mitt4Prez, didn't you get k-lined enough yet dipshit | 07:42 |
| dospod | oh | 07:42 |
| astro76 | ooh vote for me, I support spam | 07:42 |
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| Mitt4Prez | what's a kline? | 07:43 |
| Mitt4Prez | this isn't spam | 07:43 |
| Mitt4Prez | it is advertisement | 07:43 |
| Mitt4Prez | spam are viagra ads in your email | 07:43 |
| Mitt4Prez | this is a legit message | 07:43 |
| astro76 | lol | 07:43 |
| astro76 | spam is unsolicited advertisement | 07:43 |
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| Luria | sent en masse | 07:44 |
| Mitt4Prez | Mitt Romney is dedicated to defending our country! | 07:44 |
| Mitt4Prez | "Jihadism – violent, radical, fundamental Islam – is this century’s nightmare. It follows the same dark path as last century’s nightmares: fascism and Soviet communism. Many still fail to comprehend the extent of the threat posed by radical Islam, specifically by those extremists who promote violent Jihad against the United States and the universal values Americans espouse. Yet, the consequences | 07:44 |
| Mitt4Prez | of ignoring this threat – such as a radicalized Islamic actor possessing nuclear weapons – are simply unacceptable." | 07:44 |
| Mitt4Prez | Mitt Romney for President 2008 Our only chance for security. | 07:44 |
| Mitt4Prez | Vote Mitt Romney | 07:44 |
| Mitt4Prez | i need to make a living | 07:44 |
| Mitt4Prez | i found a cool job in politics | 07:44 |
| Mitt4Prez | this is politicking for the 21st century | 07:44 |
| astro76 | Mitt4Prez, you are embarassing you and your candidate | 07:44 |
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| astro76 | yay! | 07:45 |
| freychef | thank you. | 07:45 |
| blast007 | that was...interesting :/ | 07:45 |
| Luria | i guess there was a pissed off ircop | 07:46 |
| astro76 | of course with the pathetic state of politics in this country (US), it's no surprise it's going the way of viagra ads | 07:47 |
| dospod | lol | 07:48 |
| Luria | 2008 elections: b1gg3r @nd |-|@rd3r! | 07:49 |
| astro76 | haha | 07:49 |
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| dospod | cyas tommorow | 08:09 |
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| sandyang | :) | 08:51 |
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| Dregz | hmm, well i seem to have forgot my root password, what are my options here? | 09:00 |
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| Dregz | N800, OS2008 | 09:00 |
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| sandyang | does the password can be change? | 09:09 |
| Vulcanis | dregz: Download "becomeroot" | 09:10 |
| Vulcanis | after that, in xterm, type 'sudo gainroot' | 09:10 |
| Vulcanis | then passwd, and you can reset the root password, though sudo gainroot is usually easier | 09:11 |
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| Dregz | thanks | 09:11 |
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| Luria | hmmm i prefer ssh root@localhost after openssh install | 09:43 |
| Luria | and editing sudoers | 09:43 |
| Vulcanis | its not the easiest, or most userfriendly way, though | 09:44 |
| timelyx | Luria: capture-root :) | 09:44 |
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| Luria | but its not as hackish | 09:46 |
| Luria | iow, its how things are supposed to work and does require extra programs to do what sudo is supposed to do | 09:47 |
| Luria | hell, once you do that you can passwd -l root | 09:49 |
| derf | /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.postinst: /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.postinst: 130: md5sum: not found | 09:50 |
| derf | I hope whatever it was trying to md5sum was not important. | 09:51 |
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| timeless | infobot capture-root | 09:58 |
| timeless | infobot capture root | 09:58 |
| * infobot chases root mercilessly for minutes, hours & days on end until he finally captures root & drags root back to the gaol for some truly heinous punishment | 09:58 | |
| timeless | gah | 09:58 |
| timeless | infobot capture-root is http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/capture-root-0.1.deb | 09:59 |
| infobot | timeless: okay | 09:59 |
| truent | anyone use ruby-maemo? | 10:03 |
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| user_ | is there a vnc viewer for os2008? | 10:55 |
| guardian | morning | 10:56 |
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| Spakman_ | hello | 11:16 |
| Spakman_ | truent: I use ruby-maemo | 11:17 |
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| unique311 | does any mame games work for xmame? | 11:24 |
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| unique311 | can't get any to run | 11:24 |
| Luria | i never could | 11:29 |
| Luria | im so happy | 11:29 |
| Luria | nethack on chinook | 11:29 |
| Luria | subway rides are fun again | 11:29 |
| Phobbes_zzzz | whoo hoo! The amulet of yendor is ours! | 11:29 |
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| Luria | screw mame :-) | 11:29 |
| Luria | i just had my posessions identified | 11:29 |
| Phobbes | it's always those damn eyes that get me when I'm not paying attention | 11:30 |
| Luria | i was chase by a straw golem at level 4 :-/ | 11:30 |
| Luria | chased | 11:30 |
| Phobbes | how is it using the onscreen keyboard for NH? | 11:32 |
| Luria | fine | 11:32 |
| Luria | touch screen nh is great | 11:32 |
| Luria | plus most important commands are on the toolbar | 11:33 |
| Luria | the rest are in the drop down menu (like rest, pray, etc) | 11:33 |
| Luria | but i like clicking a place and having my elf ranger run over | 11:33 |
| Phobbes | under what conditions will he stop on the way? | 11:34 |
| Phobbes | (I have to wait until my n800 arrives tomorrow to test all this out myself) | 11:34 |
| Luria | i honestly dont know | 11:34 |
| Luria | its been a while | 11:34 |
| Luria | then you want this thread on ITT | 11:34 |
| glass_ | stops for everything except floating eyes (j/k...) | 11:35 |
| Phobbes | are the graphics ascii, or with a tileset? | 11:35 |
| glass_ | tileset in the one that i tried | 11:35 |
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| Khertan_TheReal | Hi ! | 11:35 |
| Luria | tileset | 11:35 |
| Luria | no ascii option | 11:35 |
| Luria | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12291&highlight=nethack | 11:36 |
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| Luria | uh, i guess you can remove the highlight | 11:36 |
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| Luria | seriously tho, NH is the best game on the ITs | 11:37 |
| glass_ | hehe.. probably the one with most longevity | 11:37 |
| glass_ | but dunno best. i rather like day of tentacle, but it's got an ending you'll hit faster. which is sort of good in a game too | 11:38 |
| glass_ | so you don't spend your entire life playing it | 11:38 |
| Phobbes | Is there a ScummVM for maemo? | 11:39 |
| Phobbes | if I have NH and scumm I'm a happy camper | 11:39 |
| Spakman_ | hi Khertan_TheReal | 11:39 |
| Luria | everything else feels like its been hacked to work with the interface | 11:39 |
| Luria | yes thers is scummvm | 11:40 |
| Luria | there | 11:40 |
| Spakman_ | Khertan_TheReal: any news on ruby-maemo home applets getting destroyed properly? | 11:40 |
| Luria | damn, 5am irc takes its toll | 11:40 |
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| Khertan_TheReal | Spakman_ > no news ... alterego have rebuild his desktop machine ... so need some times to reconfigure all | 11:48 |
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| timeless | hi sp3000 | 11:52 |
| Luria | wow | 11:53 |
| Luria | living people | 11:53 |
| Luria | or not | 11:54 |
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| inz | glass_, IIRC I've played DOTT through on a maemo device, probably 770 | 12:05 |
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| timeless | luria: i'm more of a dead person | 12:15 |
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| sbaturzio | Aloha! | 12:31 |
| maddler | kahua! | 12:32 |
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| maddler | inz: I was playing DOTT on N800 using scumm | 12:32 |
| maddler | but if I recall correctly scumm should also be available on 770 as well... | 12:33 |
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| Juhaz | it is | 13:01 |
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| Khertan_TheReal | hum ... can't find a french version of nethack ... | 13:35 |
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| yabbas | any bluetooth coders "in da house"? | 15:55 |
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| blkno1 | How do I start the sshd daemon, on an N800 (2007SE) | 15:55 |
| Khertan_TheReal | yabbas> if it s about using python bluez api .. i can help u ... maybe | 15:56 |
| yabbas | khertan_, it's about retrieving friendly device names in Cpp. | 15:57 |
| yabbas | hci_read_remote_name doesn't seem to return successful. looking through the hcitool sources it looks like hcitool retrieves friendly names by parsing /var/lib/bluetooth/name ... question is - I have no idea when this var is updated (so it'd be best if I can retrieve the names by directly querying the device) | 15:59 |
| yabbas | Where do I look? :) | 15:59 |
| Khertan_TheReal | in Cpp ... so i can't help you ... don't know the api ... | 16:00 |
| yabbas | Bluez api documentation _sucks_. They refer to hci_read_remote. Nowhere seems to tell me how to go about reading these names if not successful. How would you do it in python? | 16:00 |
| maddler | blkno1: it should start automatically upon startup... | 16:02 |
| maddler | blkno1: if not you are supposed to use "/etc/init.d/sshd start" as root user | 16:02 |
| blkno1 | maddler, I can ping it but it acceptrs no connections | 16:02 |
| blkno1 | doesnt work on the device either trying ssh 127.0.01 | 16:02 |
| maddler | are you sure ssh-server is correctly installed? | 16:03 |
| blkno1 | I have open-sshserver installed | 16:03 |
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| blkno1 | correctly who knows lol | 16:03 |
| maddler | try removing/installing it | 16:04 |
| blkno1 | hmmm maybe dropbear client conflicting | 16:04 |
| maddler | and reboot :) | 16:04 |
| maddler | perhaps... | 16:05 |
| maddler | keep only one installed... | 16:05 |
| maddler | at least they will both try to bind to port 22 | 16:05 |
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| blackd0t | Hi guys | 16:10 |
| blkno1 | maddler, it worked thanks! | 16:10 |
| blackd0t | Does anyone know why iptables on maemo doesn't understand the --to-port paremeter for example: -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080 ? | 16:11 |
| maddler | tryed man iptables? ;) | 16:12 |
| blackd0t | Dang, seems that I always have problems that I can't find solution for on google :/ | 16:12 |
| maddler | ;) | 16:12 |
| blackd0t | maddler: There is no 'man' in maemo I believe | 16:12 |
| blackd0t | Also --to-port should work, but it just is not recognized on maemo for some reason | 16:12 |
| maddler | http://www.google.com/search?q=man+iptables | 16:13 |
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| maddler | try --dport | 16:13 |
| blackd0t | I use --dport before, but later I have -j REDIRECT --to-port [port] | 16:14 |
| maddler | yup... sorry... misread... | 16:14 |
| blackd0t | I also tried '--to-ports' and it was still the same | 16:14 |
| maddler | :) | 16:14 |
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| maddler | dude... you are missing a "s" | 16:15 |
| blackd0t | No problem :) I really have no idea what's going on, my linux box on laptop understands --to-port with no problems and I also looked up on the internet and the iptables version 1.2.x that is on maemo should recognize it | 16:15 |
| maddler | ;) | 16:15 |
| blackd0t | Yep, I tried '--to-ports' as well :) | 16:15 |
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| maddler | oh... | 16:16 |
| maddler | who knows... | 16:16 |
| maddler | I'll give it a try later at home... | 16:16 |
| blackd0t | I'll try again though, maybe it's my fault that I did something wrong still :) | 16:16 |
| blackd0t | Sure, thanks | 16:16 |
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| blackd0t | Btw, I have this n800 thingie for 2 days and it's completely awesome, I ported ettercap to it with my personal sniffing tools and it works amazingly well! | 16:17 |
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| maddler | I'd be curious to give it a try... | 16:17 |
| maddler | N800 is a great security tool! | 16:17 |
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| blackd0t | Exactly! It's amazing how many things it's capable of doing and it fits in your pocket! | 16:18 |
| maddler | right... | 16:18 |
| inz | blackd0t, maybe the busybox iptables is b0rken | 16:18 |
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| blackd0t | inz, it should be fine I guess. Is there any place to get the sources for ipchains, so that I can try porting it to maemo? | 16:21 |
| blackd0t | I believe it comes with the kernel | 16:21 |
| ph|ber | anyone using kismet on the n810? | 16:21 |
| maddler | blackd0t: I suggest you tos tart fom debian sources... | 16:22 |
| blackd0t | maddler: Right, I'll try that one if that doesn't work | 16:22 |
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| maddler | http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages | 16:22 |
| maddler | yup... | 16:22 |
| inz | blackd0t, do use iptables rather than ipchains | 16:22 |
| maddler | ph|ber: I was on OS2007 | 16:23 |
| inz | blackd0t, the debian iptables most likely compiles without changes | 16:23 |
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| blackd0t | inz: Yeah ipchains seem outdated | 16:23 |
| maddler | inz: it should... | 16:23 |
| ph|ber | maddler: do you have a packages anywhere? | 16:23 |
| maddler | ipchains IS outdated :) | 16:23 |
| blackd0t | ;) | 16:23 |
| inz | very dat | 16:23 |
| maddler | ph|ber: no... it was on a repository... | 16:24 |
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| maddler | ph|ber: MaemoHackers's perhaps... | 16:24 |
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| ph|ber | is the maemolive development enviroment for the 810? | 16:26 |
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| inz | maddler, no kismet in m-h | 16:29 |
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| maddler | it was on eko.one.pl | 16:30 |
| blackd0t | http://irongeek.com/i.php?page=maemo/nokia-770-800-hacking-pen-testing - here is a good link with repositories | 16:30 |
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| maddler | http://eko.one.pl/index.php?page=Nokia770_software#Kismet | 16:30 |
| ph|ber | if i wanted to compile my own stuff... would i use the maemo live enviroment? | 16:30 |
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| blackd0t | http://irongeek.com/maemo/eko1kismet.install | 16:30 |
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| maddler | blackd0t: right | 16:31 |
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| maddler | ph|ber: you could... | 16:31 |
| maddler | ph|ber: or install scratchbox | 16:31 |
| ph|ber | is there something better.? | 16:31 |
| ph|ber | where is scratchbox at? | 16:31 |
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| blackd0t | ph|ber: http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/?p=453 - try out this tutorial | 16:33 |
| blackd0t | It's from Dec 16th so it's pretty up to date | 16:33 |
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| jeddy3 | anyone familiar with what kindoff profile is needed for bt gps pairing on n800? | 16:34 |
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| maddler | jeddy3: sorry, can't see what you mean... | 16:39 |
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| jeddy3 | maddler, i'm trying to pair up my neo with n800 to use as a bluetooth gps, but n800 refuses to recongnize it | 16:41 |
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| jeddy3 | i can experiment with different services avaliable from neo, but the only one i can figure out is needed is SP/SPP (serial) | 16:41 |
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| Khertan_TheReal | http://www.spicebird.com/Spicebird | 16:59 |
| Khertan_TheReal | oups ww | 16:59 |
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| ph|ber | fuck. | 17:21 |
| ph|ber | blackd0t: wtf is up with all the damn repos | 17:21 |
| ph|ber | with size mismatch shit. | 17:21 |
| blackd0t | Ahh, they are still down it seems | 17:21 |
| blackd0t | You have to install the deb patch | 17:22 |
| ph|ber | sheet.. | 17:22 |
| blackd0t | By timeless | 17:22 |
| ph|ber | for my scratchbox? | 17:22 |
| blackd0t | Let me find you a link | 17:22 |
| blackd0t | No, for your whole linux box, it will change the dns to the private repository | 17:22 |
| blackd0t | http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/repository-maemo-org-dns-0.1.deb | 17:24 |
| blackd0t | This should be it | 17:24 |
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| sk | hey | 17:25 |
| sk | inz: so I switched to debian, got arm/x86 scratchbox setup | 17:25 |
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| sk | and xypher w/the gui | 17:25 |
| sk | but when i goto compile code (just the sample helloworld.c type stuff) | 17:25 |
| sk | the compiler can't find the includes | 17:25 |
| sk | but they are there | 17:26 |
| sk | i really want to do pyhon dev, not c | 17:26 |
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| sk | does anyone have a good link for python dev | 17:26 |
| sk | on the n770 | 17:26 |
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| sk | i found one, but its for dev ON the device, not in scratchbox | 17:26 |
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| zoran | Khertan, around? | 17:33 |
| zoran | as I promised yesterday, I found an article in december issue of linux journal | 17:34 |
| zoran | Ben Martin, On-line encrypted backup for your laptop | 17:35 |
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| zoran | the text is about using fuse to mount on-line storage service | 17:36 |
| zoran | so, rsync is used directoly via ssh | 17:36 |
| zoran | the point is to install sshfs: apt-get install fuse-sshfs | 17:37 |
| zoran | for security it is possible to use eCryptfs or EncFS | 17:37 |
| zoran | the author had some ptoblems with the former | 17:38 |
| zoran | EncFs is a fuse filesystem that takes a raw filesystem and presents a new filesystem | 17:38 |
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| zoran | EncFS requires fuse, OpenSSL and rlog | 17:38 |
| zoran | so apt-get install fuse-ecfs rlog | 17:39 |
| zoran | *fuse-encfs | 17:39 |
| zoran | rsync is used on EncFS which is using sshfs to provide on-line storage | 17:40 |
| zoran | rsync -av --delete-after --include="*.txt" --no-g directory/ ~/files | 17:40 |
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| zoran | some interesting links: | 17:41 |
| zoran | fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs | 17:41 |
| zoran | arg0.net/wiki/andfs | 17:41 |
| zoran | arg0.net/wiki/encfs | 17:41 |
| zoran | richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html | 17:42 |
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| Khertan_TheReal | zoran ... i m reading :) | 18:05 |
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| Khertan_TheReal | zoran> there is no fuse package available for maemo, isn't it ? | 18:09 |
| Khertan_TheReal | and kernel doesn't seem to include FUSE | 18:10 |
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| blackd0t | I ported iptables 1.3.6 to maemo with NO_SHARED_LIBS=1 and DO_MULTI=1 and here is what I get when I launch it: | 18:18 |
| blackd0t | Nokia-N800-39:/media# iptables | 18:18 |
| blackd0t | getsockopt failed strangely: No such file or directory | 18:18 |
| blackd0t | With no "NO_SHARED_LIBS" I get errors on "undefined arg '--dport'" | 18:19 |
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| blackd0t | If iptables extensions are installed in /usr/lib/iptables should I somehow register them? I tried adding /usr/lib/iptables to /etc/ld.so.conf, but that didn't help as well | 18:19 |
| blackd0t | Maybe getsockopt fails because iptables 1.3.6 is not compatible with the busybox 2.6.18 kernel? | 18:20 |
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| macluvjay | i removed esc from xterm toolbar | 18:24 |
| macluvjay | how can i get that nack | 18:24 |
| macluvjay | need it for vim lol | 18:25 |
| Veggen | mac: there is a hardware esc. | 18:26 |
| Veggen | (the round arrow) | 18:26 |
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| kulve | hmm.. I paired my bt headset and I could listen to music using it. Then I disconnected it. Where can I connect it again as the audio device? | 18:26 |
| macluvjay | thank you so much! | 18:27 |
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| macluvjay | win 5 | 18:28 |
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| kulve | oh, it connects it automatically, if I have bt already on in the deviec | 18:29 |
| kulve | device | 18:29 |
| dospod | maemo ftw | 18:29 |
| macluvjay | +++ | 18:29 |
| macluvjay | =D | 18:30 |
| dospod | im glad i didnt buy the ipod touch | 18:30 |
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| blackd0t | Shit, I managed to get this --to-port in iptables to work finally by recompiling iptables 1.2.11 myself, but now it tells me that it can't find the 'nat' table :/ | 18:49 |
| blackd0t | iptables v1.2.11: can't initialize iptables table `nat': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?) | 18:49 |
| blackd0t | Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded. | 18:49 |
| blackd0t | Does anyone have any idea how to bypass that one? I believe it's not possible to recompile the kernel in any way on N800 to enable this CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT=y for netfilter in kernel build options. | 18:50 |
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| kulve | compiling your own kernel is almost trivial | 18:53 |
| kulve | at least it was for bora, and I don't think it has changed.. | 18:53 |
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| blackd0t | Oh really? Do you have any articles on how to do that exactly? | 18:54 |
| blackd0t | So I can install whichever kernel I want or should I stick to the 2.6.18 version that's already installed? | 18:55 |
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| LoCusF_ | there should be sources around I guess? | 18:55 |
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| dospod | well im out bbl | 18:56 |
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| penguinbait | Christmas came | 18:57 |
| penguinbait | Christmas went | 18:57 |
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| penguinbait | where in the hell is out n810's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 18:57 |
| penguinbait | argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 18:57 |
| LoCusF | my christmas came 17.12 <3 | 18:57 |
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| kulve | blackd0t: you need to use the maemo kernel | 18:58 |
| penguinbait | out = our | 18:58 |
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| bedboi | hi there | 18:58 |
| kulve | blackd0t: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_KernelCompilation | 18:58 |
| vegai | penguinbait: I concur! | 18:58 |
| kulve | blackd0t: not sure if that's up-to-date with chinook | 18:58 |
| * vegai shakes his torch and pitchfork high in the air | 18:58 | |
| penguinbait | woohooo!! | 18:59 |
| penguinbait | assemble the mob!! | 18:59 |
| sibbe | http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/kernel_guide_for_maemo.html | 18:59 |
| kulve | blackd0t: so, ignore my old url | 19:00 |
| blackd0t | Ok thanks a lot guys! | 19:00 |
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| blackd0t | I hope this iptables will work with the 'nat' table after that | 19:00 |
| penguinbait | I gave up long ago, but it would be great if it does | 19:01 |
| kulve | I think there's no reason why the iptables wouldn't work | 19:01 |
| penguinbait | iptables will work, but not all modules | 19:01 |
| kulve | why not? | 19:01 |
| penguinbait | I could never get IP masquerading to work | 19:01 |
| penguinbait | I have not tried in like a year | 19:02 |
| penguinbait | :) | 19:02 |
| blackd0t | It didn't recognize '--to-port' args in REDIRECT argument, but I recompiled 1.2.11 myself and it seems to be fine, but now it doesn't recognize the 'nat' table | 19:02 |
| penguinbait | well, I was compiling all the modules, not the kernel itself | 19:03 |
| penguinbait | so I guess if your replacing the whole kernel it should probably work | 19:03 |
| blackd0t | I'm very determined to do that ;) | 19:04 |
| penguinbait | I just didn'tput that much effort into it, but it would be nice to share the bt connection over wlan | 19:04 |
| kulve | blackd0t: I've enabled some debugging and ext2&3 in kernel for bora and it worked just fine. I think the same goes with iptables and chinook | 19:05 |
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| blackd0t | kulve : Sweet, thanks for info | 19:06 |
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| alterego | Just noticed a 770 in die hard :D | 19:13 |
| sk | really? | 19:13 |
| sk | hehe | 19:14 |
| alterego | So that's Die Hard and Fantastic 4 | 19:14 |
| truent | alterego, any progress with ruby-dbus? | 19:15 |
| alterego | truent, I've not been able to get the SDK installed :( | 19:16 |
| alterego | The repo's are broken. | 19:16 |
| kulve | there's a workaround.. | 19:16 |
| truent | alterego, and i misunderstood ruby-maemo as a project.. your documentation is fine.. | 19:16 |
| truent | ruby-gnome2 i needed to look up | 19:16 |
| truent | alterego, do repostory.maemo.org | 19:16 |
| truent | instead of repository.maemo.org | 19:17 |
| alterego | It's broken. | 19:17 |
| truent | hmm | 19:17 |
| kulve | stage.maemo.org is not | 19:17 |
| truent | i got it.. took about 3 nights of tryin ;p | 19:17 |
| alterego | repostory.maemo.org? | 19:17 |
| alterego | I get a load of 404's on packages in the sdk repository. | 19:17 |
| truent | yeah | 19:17 |
| truent | no i | 19:17 |
| kulve | alterego: s,repository,stage, | 19:18 |
| alterego | So I should use 'stage.maemo.org' instead? | 19:18 |
| LoCusF | stage is now SDK repository eh? | 19:18 |
| kulve | yeah, that bybasses some akamai cache | 19:18 |
| kulve | LoCusF: no | 19:18 |
| truent | cant be any worse than not havin it ;p | 19:18 |
| kulve | but seems to work while the real one doesn't | 19:18 |
| LoCusF | ok | 19:19 |
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| alterego | Well, I'm installing the maemo-sdk+ now. with sbox 2 so hopefully this'll work :) | 19:20 |
| kulve | if it uses the same repos, it won't | 19:20 |
| alterego | Sure, I'll just get it to use stage. | 19:20 |
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| truent | alterego, im trying to make a Gtk::Button with an inner-border.. but it no workee | 19:21 |
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| truent | is there another method? | 19:22 |
| alterego | Another method? | 19:22 |
| truent | i want the button to be bigger than the label widget.. | 19:22 |
| alterego | I'd just adjust the theme .. | 19:22 |
| truent | im new to this | 19:22 |
| alterego | Add padding? | 19:22 |
| truent | to the label? | 19:22 |
| alterego | Either | 19:23 |
| truent | how do i add padding to the button's label? | 19:24 |
| alterego | I dunno, read that documentation you were raving about earlier :P | 19:24 |
| alterego | This is obviously a Gtk thing. | 19:24 |
| alterego | Nothing strictly to do with ruby-gtk or ruby-maemo. | 19:24 |
| truent | lol i did and viable option looked like inner-border.. but thats not accessible even though they say it is | 19:26 |
| truent | what version of ruby-gnome2 did you put in ruby-maemo? | 19:26 |
| alterego | 0.16.0 | 19:26 |
| alterego | You should download irb and use that. | 19:28 |
| truent | i got it.. | 19:28 |
| truent | just wondering.. if you made a button you needed more padding on what would you do | 19:29 |
| truent | ? | 19:29 |
| alterego | I'd read the documentation for some kind of padding variable :P | 19:29 |
| alterego | Which may involve talking directly to the theming engine. | 19:29 |
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| truent | k apparently i got some stuff to learn | 19:31 |
| truent | bbl | 19:31 |
| truent | thanks though | 19:31 |
| alterego | You should really ask those folks over at irc.gnome.org #gtk+ | 19:31 |
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| xan | truent, inner-border is a style property, you change it from an rc file or using something like gtk_rc_parse_string | 19:34 |
| xan | ok, too late | 19:34 |
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| alterego | xan, that's kinda what I was thinking ;) | 19:38 |
| alterego | Just couldn't remember the names. | 19:38 |
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| blackd0t | Seems I can't get the kernel sources for maemo because of the repository problems :/ | 19:42 |
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| blackd0t | Stupid thing... I can't do anything about it... | 19:45 |
| kulve | blackd0t: use stage.maemo.org | 19:47 |
| kulve | I just donwloaded the kernel without problems | 19:47 |
| X-Fade | blackd0t: http://repository.maemo.org/pool/chinook/free/k/kernel-source-rx-34/ | 19:47 |
| blackd0t | Ok thanks a lot | 19:48 |
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| kulve | X-Fade: direct links works only for some packages.. | 19:48 |
| X-Fade | kulve: Sure, but you can at least browse to see if they are there ;) | 19:49 |
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| sbaturzio | Aloha! | 19:53 |
| penguinbait | aloha! | 19:54 |
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| blackd0t | X-Fade: In the kernel package you gave me the link to it seems there is no n770_defconfig or n800_defconfig in arch/arm/configs/ | 20:16 |
| sibbe | i used the nokia_2420_defconfig today for n800 with o2008 | 20:17 |
| blackd0t | There is no nokia_2420_defconfig as well for some reason :/ | 20:18 |
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| sibbe | did you unpack it with dpkg-source -x? | 20:19 |
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| blackd0t | It was a tar.gz so I unpacked it with tar as I usually do | 20:19 |
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| sibbe | get the .dsc file too | 20:20 |
| sibbe | afk | 20:20 |
| blackd0t | Where can I get it from? I'd gladly get it with apt-get, but those damn repositories are broken | 20:20 |
| ptman | sibbe: hi | 20:20 |
| sibbe | ptman, hello | 20:21 |
| blackd0t | sibbe: Can you supply me with a link? | 20:21 |
| sibbe | blackd0t, from the same http dir i guess. oh, and diff.gz or something like that too | 20:21 |
| ptman | sibbe: have you been long active in the maemo community? | 20:21 |
| blackd0t | sibbe: Ahh ok | 20:22 |
| sibbe | ptman, not... just borrowed n810 and n800 from work for the holidays :) | 20:22 |
| ptman | just as I guessed =P | 20:22 |
| sibbe | blackd0t, and then unpack it with dpkg-source -x foo.dsc | 20:23 |
| ptman | I'm still waiting for Nokia to get their discount programme act together so that I can afford to buy my n810 | 20:23 |
| ptman | sibbe: everything ok otherwise? | 20:24 |
| sibbe | n800 feels a bit better | 20:24 |
| sibbe | ptman, yea | 20:24 |
| ptman | I'm hoping the hw kbd will make it a good wireless ssh terminal | 20:25 |
| sibbe | i hate n810:s metal back cover | 20:25 |
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| sibbe | also, the direction pad and other hw buttons are not as good as i expected | 20:26 |
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| ptman | =( | 20:26 |
| sibbe | hey... having a late b-day party tomorrow, want to come? | 20:28 |
| blackd0t | sibbe : Thanks a lot! It worked now | 20:28 |
| sibbe | np | 20:28 |
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| kulve | blackd0t: there was the defconfig in the kernel just like the wiki page told.. | 20:32 |
| jeddy3 | shrug | 20:34 |
| * jeddy3 is so close | 20:34 | |
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| jeddy3 | anyone have any experience with gps over rfcomm? | 20:34 |
| blackd0t | kulve: Right, but I have to decompress it with dkpg-source for it to include the n800 defconfig | 20:37 |
| jeddy3 | i can even confirm that i get the nmea-messages to n800 with cat /dev/rfcomm0 | 20:38 |
| blackd0t | Also is it normal that when I add CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT=y to .config and perform 'make oldconfig' the "CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT" entry disappears from .config again? | 20:38 |
| jeddy3 | and gps "connects" but doesn't seem to get any information | 20:38 |
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| alterego | Well, sbox2 and maemo sdk seem to install okay. | 20:41 |
| blackd0t | Seems that the kernel config doesn't even ask if I want to enable NAT table :| does it mean it's not possible to enable it? | 20:41 |
| kulve | blackd0t: you should use menuconfig instead of directly editing the file | 20:42 |
| kulve | "make ARCH=arm menuconfig" outside SB should work | 20:42 |
| sk | i noticed maemo had a vmare image ... has anyone used it for setting up a dev environment? | 20:43 |
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| blackd0t | kulve: That didn't work for me, he's frustrated about some KEY_UP and KEY_DOWN things. Probably keyboard input he can't handle | 20:43 |
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| blackd0t | kulve: When I try to configure normally the kernel for Linux it asks for "Full NAT (IP_NF_NAT)" while it doesn't ask for it when I configure the kernel for maemo | 20:46 |
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| blackd0t | That's indeed strange, like if it wasn't supported on maemo | 20:47 |
| yabbas | gtk-update-icon-cache doesn't seem to work...anyone know how I can refresh the icons in the app-menu? | 20:49 |
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| Mousey | is the default email program the ONLY one that can use the LED for notification of new mail? | 20:54 |
| * yabbas scores!" | 20:55 | |
| jeddy3 | is nmea-messages on rfcomm0 enough for map program on os2008? (n800) | 20:56 |
| jeddy3 | Mousey, supposedly modest should do it also, though havent tried | 21:01 |
| ptman | sibbe: thanks, but I'm in Porvoo | 21:02 |
| ptman | sibbe: but happy birthday, whenever it was | 21:02 |
| sibbe | ptman, ok | 21:02 |
| sibbe | (26th) | 21:02 |
| Mousey | jeddy3: i haven't seen it do it, and i | 21:02 |
| Mousey | i'd like claws-mail to do it, it's a hell of a lot prettier than the other ones i've seen | 21:03 |
| jeddy3 | can anyone explain steps needed to connect bt-gps to n800? | 21:09 |
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| thoughtfix | Hallo | 21:16 |
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| dospod | hey | 21:18 |
| penguinbait | eh! | 21:19 |
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| blackd0t | Holy hell! Does 2.6.21 kernel even has NAT filtering support?! | 21:21 |
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| sibbe | maybe it has some dependencies.. search for NAT or something inside menuconfig | 21:23 |
| sibbe | ...using / iirc | 21:23 |
| |R | jeddy3 : setting -> control panel -> bluetooth -> devices -> new -> select -> 0000 probably -> ok | 21:23 |
| yabbas | oi oi penguinbait :) | 21:23 |
| penguinbait | yabbas | 21:23 |
| yabbas | eyyoop thoughtfix | 21:23 |
| penguinbait | how goes it | 21:23 |
| |R | so what happened to the wabbit ? :P | 21:23 |
| blackd0t | sibbe: I compared the .config of my linux box and that .config from maemo kernel and it doesn't even ask for enabling NAT support | 21:24 |
| blackd0t | sibbe: Is there some module I have to install? | 21:24 |
| sibbe | you probably need to enable something else first | 21:24 |
| yabbas | penguinbait, much better today. Playing with D-BUS to get wminput working automagically. | 21:24 |
| sibbe | like, ip forwarding support | 21:24 |
| penguinbait | yabbas, I was not familiar with wii prior, but now my kids have one | 21:25 |
| blackd0t | sibbe: Oh, I see. So how can I find out what dependencies it has? | 21:25 |
| penguinbait | doesn't need IR? | 21:25 |
| jeddy3 | |R, the pairing bit seems to work, and gps says "connected" but it does NOT want to give me any information | 21:25 |
| sibbe | blackd0t, using the search ^^ | 21:25 |
| yabbas | penguinbait, does need ir for pointer functions. But works with button input without ir. | 21:25 |
| penguinbait | jeddy3 go outside :) | 21:25 |
| sibbe | or source :) | 21:26 |
| |R | hehe | 21:26 |
| penguinbait | ok, so dpad and numcuck will still work | 21:26 |
| jeddy3 | penguinbait, and nmea says i have fix :D | 21:26 |
| sibbe | hmm, i'll go check that | 21:26 |
| yabbas | aye, dpad and nunchuck work perfectly. Accelerometers work well too. :) | 21:26 |
| blackd0t | sibbe: ehh ;) | 21:26 |
| jeddy3 | penguinbait, |R, PLUS i get nmea messages on rfcomm | 21:26 |
| yabbas | penguinbait, want the apps as they are atm? | 21:26 |
| penguinbait | jeddy what is maemo-mapper telling you :) | 21:26 |
| jeddy3 | penguinbait, i'm using nokia standard map application | 21:27 |
| jeddy3 | penguinbait, it's telling me gps is connected, but does not show any more information whatsoever | 21:27 |
| penguinbait | why not use a real map applications that has been being developed for 2+ years? | 21:27 |
| jeddy3 | penguinbait, good question :), because map was installed :P | 21:28 |
| jeddy3 | penguinbait, how about maps for maemo mapper, can i download for free? | 21:28 |
| penguinbait | yes | 21:28 |
| penguinbait | several diff sources | 21:28 |
| jeddy3 | "real", "professional" maps? | 21:28 |
| penguinbait | google maps | 21:28 |
| |R | google maps | 21:28 |
| penguinbait | and sat maps | 21:28 |
| penguinbait | I usually only use google, but there are many options | 21:29 |
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| Mousey | yah, ok. claws-mail is teh rock | 21:31 |
| Mousey | i wonder why it's not default | 21:31 |
| sibbe | blackd0t, Depends on: NET && INET && NETFILTER && IP_NF_IPTABLES && NF_CONNTRACK_IPV4 | 21:33 |
| blackd0t | sibbi: Ok I found out it doesn't even ask for IP_NF_CONNTRACK which is said to be needed for IP_NF_NAT and I can't enable that one as well | 21:33 |
| sibbe | well then just check what IP_NF_CONNTRACK depends on... | 21:33 |
| blackd0t | sibbe: Oh thanks a lot, I'll look up all of these | 21:33 |
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| blackd0t | sibbe: Geez, they couldn't have made it simplier | 21:33 |
| sibbe | blackd0t, yea.. it should like at least warn you | 21:34 |
| khertan_ | Does someone know if dosbox can able to play to diablo on an n800 ? | 21:35 |
| sk | the real quesiton is | 21:35 |
| sk | can it play hellgate london | 21:35 |
| sk | heh | 21:35 |
| Mousey | hahaha | 21:35 |
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| khertan_ | sk: no no no ... Hellgate is bad thing ... and hurt this jewel that Diablo is | 21:36 |
| sibbe | hmm.. i think it should be easy to extract a dependency map of linux kernel modules... | 21:36 |
| sk | word, i feel you | 21:37 |
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| sk | i got a little bored of hellgate..diablo not so | 21:37 |
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| * jeddy3 is replaying diabloII right now | 21:38 | |
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| blackd0t | sibbe: : Thanks a lot man! I enabled "CONNTRACK_ENABLED" and the rest showed up :D | 21:40 |
| khertan_ | sk: hum ... you are talking about the new game hellgate london .... i'm talking about hellgate the mod for diablo ... | 21:43 |
| khertan_ | i don't know this game hellgate london ... it s seems to be a fps ... with a diablo style | 21:43 |
| sk | oh word, didn't know they had one? | 21:43 |
| khertan_ | sk: don't know :) | 21:43 |
| sk | yeah, it is, i think its from some x blizzard employees | 21:43 |
| sk | blizzard south | 21:44 |
| khertan_ | it s not a blizzard game ... it s a EA one ... which never do good game | 21:44 |
| khertan_ | is it already available ? | 21:44 |
| khertan_ | ouch same police as the original one from Diablo | 21:45 |
| sk | EA blows, right on man | 21:45 |
| sk | they are aweful | 21:45 |
| sk | s/e/ | 21:45 |
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| khertan_ | ouch ... all french review say it s a poor game ... huhu | 21:46 |
| sibbe | blackd0t, np #2 :) | 21:46 |
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| jeddy3 | ok, retried with maemo-mapper, and it just connects briefly to gps and then says "connection failed, retry?", a launch from terminal gives the extra "invalid argument (no rfcomm created)" | 21:47 |
| khertan_ | if it s on os2008 .... on mine there is no rfcomm command line as on os2007 | 21:48 |
| jeddy3 | khertan_, yes, on os2008...sorry, don't quite follow you? | 21:49 |
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| khertan_ | i ven't seen any rfcomm command ... so if i understand the error ... maemo-mapper try to open a bluetooth connection with rfcomm command line. | 21:51 |
| khertan_ | and it s available only on 2006 and 2007 ... not on 2008 yet ... | 21:52 |
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| khertan_ | be right back ... | 21:52 |
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| yabbas | is there any way to display the mouse cursor on the N800? | 22:06 |
| blackd0t | Sweet, I just love compilation errors while compiling a kernel... | 22:08 |
| yabbas | ahh hang on, may have found it | 22:10 |
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| Cptnodegard | can you connect a mouse with usb host mode? or BT... on n800 | 22:18 |
| yabbas | Cptnodegard, try it and see? :) | 22:19 |
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| Cptnodegard | if i only had my n800 :( stupid mail | 22:20 |
| Cptnodegard | at least its shipped | 22:20 |
| yabbas | doh...I'll see if I can plug a USB one in | 22:21 |
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| Khertan | Re | 22:23 |
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| Khertan | ouch i ve discover a nice irc client ... only by http :) | 22:24 |
| Khertan | without java | 22:25 |
| Khertan | http://ircatwork.com/ | 22:25 |
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| bigup | Hey there :) | 22:33 |
| GNUton | Hu | 22:35 |
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| bigup | Damn i think i have a dead pixel on my one week old n800 | 22:52 |
| Khertan | no chance | 22:54 |
| Khertan | :( | 22:54 |
| Khertan | is it you who have post recently on maemofr.org ? | 22:54 |
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| Khertan | re | 22:57 |
| bigup | Yes Khertan | 22:58 |
| Khertan | :) | 22:58 |
| bigup | ;) | 22:59 |
| bigup | I just installed gaim to use irc | 22:59 |
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| Khertan | you should try pidgin instead of gaim | 22:59 |
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| bigup | I meant pidgin... Old reflex | 23:00 |
| Khertan | Gaim has change his name to pidgin | 23:00 |
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| e-squizo | any gstreamer-on-maemo gurus out there? | 23:12 |
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| e-squizo | I was so glad I had figured out a simple way to get my N800 to emit a sinusoidal wave using the audiotestsrc source... | 23:13 |
| e-squizo | it looks like it's not incuded in maemo? | 23:13 |
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| pauliukas | Hello chaps. | 23:13 |
| pauliukas | What's the status on OS2007/2008 on the 770. I have a 770 and am getting bored of OS 2006. | 23:14 |
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| Khertan | http://docs.python.org/lib/module-wave.html | 23:24 |
| sk | peace, im outtie | 23:25 |
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| jeff1f | pauliukas, I don't think there will be | 23:36 |
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| sibbe | anyone using ccache inside scratchbox or sb2? | 23:45 |
| sibbe | e-squizo, gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-extra package? | 23:48 |
| e-squizo | sibbe: let me check.. | 23:49 |
| pauliukas | jeff1f, 2008 probably not. But what about 2007. | 23:53 |
| pauliukas | I recall seeing a wiki entry, but it does little explaining on how to upgrade. | 23:53 |
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| blackd0t | sibbe: Did you manage to compile the 2.6.21 without any compiler errors? I tried fixing the errors myself, but the n800 won't boot with that kernel after I removed some functions for rx-44 which is obviously for n810 which I didn't need | 23:54 |
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| sibbe | blackd0t, yeah it went just fine.. i just enabled the process accounting and some other small stuff | 23:56 |
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