| yabbas | I've got a copy of OS2009 running here. They've clocked the processor to 533MHz. | 00:00 |
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| Robot101 | how can I configure the toolbar in osso-xterm to send alt+keypress? | 00:37 |
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| timelyx | alterego: how's my deb? :) | 00:46 |
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| yabbas | where do .desktop icons go? | 00:49 |
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| * yabbas trying to create some | 00:49 | |
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| yabbas | anyone? :( | 00:50 |
| timelyx | what do you mean? | 00:51 |
| timelyx | do you want to know where they are cached? | 00:52 |
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| timelyx | alterego: fwiw, oranginalab was using build_non_deb.sh, but afaict the script deals w/ uu decoding | 00:53 |
| skibur | I'm compiling Ktorrent | 00:55 |
| skibur | :P | 00:55 |
| yabbas | timelyx, specified the icon name in the .desktop file. Now where to put the .png? | 00:56 |
| yabbas | or "doesn't it work like that?" | 00:56 |
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| skibur | I feel like hacking code :( | 01:02 |
| skibur | not sure what | 01:02 |
| penguinbait | yabbas | 01:05 |
| penguinbait | ? | 01:05 |
| yabbas | ello mate :) | 01:05 |
| yabbas | all compiled and working | 01:05 |
| penguinbait | sweet | 01:05 |
| yabbas | just packaging it up | 01:05 |
| yabbas | and learning as I go! | 01:05 |
| penguinbait | please send me a link when its together | 01:05 |
| penguinbait | kids open thier wii in the morning | 01:06 |
| yabbas | will do - 1 question - .desktop icons. Where do they go? | 01:06 |
| penguinbait | desktop icons in KDE, or menu icons in maemo? | 01:06 |
| yabbas | in maemo | 01:06 |
| penguinbait | here /usr/share/application/hildon | 01:07 |
| penguinbait | might be /usr/share/applications/hildon | 01:07 |
| yabbas | the pngs go there? :o | 01:07 |
| penguinbait | in the desktop file it defines the icon | 01:07 |
| penguinbait | I think you can just put in full path to icon | 01:08 |
| yabbas | aye done that - or at least I think I have. But they don't show up :-/ | 01:08 |
| * yabbas tries the full path | 01:08 | |
| yabbas | fullpath/icon.png or without the extension? | 01:08 |
| penguinbait | I had same problem in 2008, but not prior | 01:08 |
| penguinbait | I am wondering if it now needs to be certain format or size | 01:09 |
| yabbas | that's what I'm wondering | 01:09 |
| penguinbait | grab a maemo icon and make your same size and format | 01:09 |
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| yabbas | thought I did - converted to .png 26x26 which seems to be the suggestion for application setup | 01:10 |
| yabbas | with transparent backdrop | 01:10 |
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| penguinbait | I used to just point it at any old image and it would scale | 01:11 |
| penguinbait | something must have changed | 01:11 |
| penguinbait | so yabbas is that going in the repos, or what? | 01:12 |
| yabbas | dunno yet :D lemme finish it off, lol | 01:12 |
| yabbas | it works though - well the gui does. Still need to test wminput | 01:13 |
| penguinbait | I am puttin a website together to host some projects, I would love to mirror your work when its complete | 01:13 |
| yabbas | it's yours :) | 01:14 |
| penguinbait | building it from scratch, yes just bought a new domain | 01:14 |
| yabbas | whacha got? | 01:14 |
| penguinbait | still working on that, but basically a site of projects like KDE cdrom drivers whatever, its becomming a pain to manage in the forum | 01:15 |
| penguinbait | Its also going to be directed at tablets, not PC's | 01:15 |
| penguinbait | tablet friendly website | 01:15 |
| yabbas | tablet luvvin <3 | 01:16 |
| yabbas | what's the domain? :) | 01:16 |
| penguinbait | join #pb | 01:17 |
| pupnik | n770 shown useful to computer hating dad on christmas: radio was pickung up the Bach christmas-mass poorly, so n770 was used to stream it from the radio station with improved quality. (somewhat) \o/ | 01:24 |
| yabbas | pupnik, score 1 to tablet, 0 to the radio | 01:25 |
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| pupnik | finding the stream was annoyingly difficult though. realllly dislike these sites that stream via .wma and javascript applet | 01:28 |
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| pupnik | penguinbait has my vote for top ten people doin cool stuff right now :) | 01:30 |
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| josch | is this channel right for n770 hacking or is here only maemo app discussion? | 01:31 |
| pupnik | any tablet discussino | 01:32 |
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| josch | so did anyone ever try to run anything else than the nokia OS on the device? | 01:40 |
| josch | are there any documents explaining the boot process? as I understand is it there is no bootmanager but a script that redirects a already booted kernel to a proper rootfs | 01:41 |
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| penguinbait | thanks pupnik :) | 01:46 |
| kbsingh | josch: would be interesting to see the wiki pages you come up with :D | 01:49 |
| kbsingh | i guess montavista would be an interesting target to get going | 01:51 |
| yabbas | has bochs been compiled on the N800? | 01:53 |
| yabbas | I'd love to see it boot Win95 in 45 minutes :D | 01:53 |
| pupnik | i didn't get bochs running | 01:55 |
| kbsingh | how about a virtualbox port :D | 01:56 |
| kbsingh | or xen even | 01:56 |
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| yabbas | pupnik, any reason? have you tried again | 01:57 |
| pupnik | If we could get a few hundred people donating to a dosbox dynarec, we could get one in 2008 | 01:57 |
| pupnik | you can emulate about a 12-16mhz 80286 on n800 right now | 01:57 |
| pupnik | i hope some smart ppl will do some dosbox optimizing for ARM in 2008 | 01:58 |
| kbsingh | is there a problem waiting to be solved here ? | 01:59 |
| kbsingh | or is the effort better spent on porting the app that works now on x86 to arm | 01:59 |
| pupnik | yes, dosbox has a cpu emulator framework that can handle just-in-time / dynamic recompilation of x86 to AMR | 01:59 |
| pupnik | AMR | 01:59 |
| pupnik | ARM | 01:59 |
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| pupnik | depends on what app you want | 02:00 |
| pupnik | but i would say that improving dosbox into 20mhz 386 class emulation would open up a lot of entertaining oldschool stuff | 02:01 |
| pupnik | haha wb doc|humbug | 02:01 |
| pupnik | thinking of anything in particular kbsingh ? | 02:02 |
| kbsingh | no, not really - i was going to ask you that :D | 02:02 |
| wumpus | yeah, running some old dos games could really be fun | 02:03 |
| wumpus | like keen :) | 02:03 |
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| doc|humbug | pupnik: :) | 02:05 |
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| pupnik | right now on 770 dosbox 0.72 with frameskip of 2-4 gives about 4.77-6 mhz 8086 class game compatibility | 02:07 |
| pupnik | we might also eventually be able to emulate the whole soundblaster on the dsp | 02:09 |
| pupnik | that'd be a keen project | 02:09 |
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| pupnik | hmm seems Jagged Alliance 2 is open source now... | 02:14 |
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| josch | well I simply cannot imagine I'm the first one asking this question - I searched the net but couldn't find things like altering the boot process, modifiing kernel boot parameters, swapping the rootfs etc... I don't want to reinvent the wheel | 02:17 |
| pupnik | 'fanoush' knows a lot about this - a good search term for you | 02:17 |
| shackan | anybody tried airx? | 02:18 |
| Cptnodegard | quick Q: did they ever implement A2DP support in either OS2007 or OS2008? | 02:19 |
| bmidgley | Cptnodegard nokia did not | 02:23 |
| bmidgley | but it's been added on | 02:23 |
| Cptnodegard | ah nice | 02:23 |
| Cptnodegard | got a pair of a2dp headphones | 02:23 |
| bmidgley | as a 3rd part thing... check the forums | 02:23 |
| bmidgley | party | 02:23 |
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| pupnik | woohoo | 02:39 |
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| alterego | timelyx, unfortunately I can't install scratchbox on my new machine. So I can't compile anything :/ | 02:45 |
| alterego | Well, anything that involves X11 or Gtk ... | 02:45 |
| kbsingh | alterego: why ? | 02:45 |
| alterego | Mental sources corruption. | 02:46 |
| alterego | The maemo repository is a bit broken. | 02:46 |
| kbsingh | well, isnt that repostory.maemo.org working ? | 02:46 |
| alterego | Erm, no. | 02:47 |
| kbsingh | do you get the same errors with that as well | 02:47 |
| alterego | From what I can tell, the apt lists that hold the headers for packages in the repository is stating different file sizes for the actual deb packages. Which causes apt to die. | 02:47 |
| alterego | The maemo repository is the maemo repository .. | 02:47 |
| kbsingh | err | 02:47 |
| kbsingh | drop the i from the url | 02:48 |
| alterego | This is a problem of inconsistency with the package list and the packages .. | 02:48 |
| kbsingh | repostory != repository | 02:48 |
| kbsingh | the odd thing is someone who has zone file access is obviously able to do something | 02:49 |
| kbsingh | i wonder why not just fix the real repository.maemo.org to point at stage.maemo.org | 02:50 |
| alterego | kbsingh, they're the same server .. Why would that make a damn bit of difference? | 02:50 |
| kbsingh | they are not the same server | 02:50 |
| kbsingh | repository.m.o is off the akamai servers | 02:51 |
| kbsingh | repostory.m.o is a cname of stage.m.o | 02:52 |
| * alterego yawns .. | 02:53 | |
| kbsingh | which seems to be a single machine in .fi afaict | 02:53 |
| alterego | They both point to the same files kbsingh | 02:53 |
| alterego | So using one from the other, appearantly people prefer 'repository.maemo.org' .. | 02:53 |
| alterego | Regardless, it'll make no difference what-so-ever .. | 02:53 |
| kbsingh | sure, but stage.m.o does not seem to have those error service unavailable issues | 02:53 |
| kbsingh | alterego: try it | 02:54 |
| alterego | That's not my issue though is it .. | 02:54 |
| alterego | I told you my issue was that the package list appears to report the wrong size for the debs I'm retrieving .. | 02:54 |
| kbsingh | are you able to actually get to the debs ? | 02:54 |
| alterego | Sure, I can download the debs manually .. | 02:55 |
| alterego | There's too many for me to bother. | 02:55 |
| kbsingh | try one | 02:55 |
| alterego | One isn't going to help me. | 02:55 |
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| kbsingh | anyway, its your call. stage.m.o is working fine for me | 02:56 |
| alterego | There's ~60 packages that don't authenticate the size check. | 02:56 |
| alterego | I'm not gonna bother manually downloading them. As I don't know their exact file names. | 02:56 |
| alterego | kbsingh, try installing an SDK target from scratch. | 02:56 |
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| alterego | Then tell me you've got it working. | 02:56 |
| kbsingh | iam on a n810 here, i,d need to get up and turn on the playmachine | 02:57 |
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| kbsingh | /SIGTOOMUCHWORK | 02:57 |
| alterego | Well then, your advise is pointless .. | 02:57 |
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| alterego | You're working on a device, that probably doesn't have the development repositories in it's list. | 02:58 |
| kbsingh | besides i have a local mirror | 02:58 |
| alterego | You're probably talking about extras. Which has nothing to do with the SDK .. | 02:58 |
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| ixiso | Hi timelyx | 03:40 |
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| skibur | hum... | 03:45 |
| skibur | Getting ready for Christmas in about 4 hours | 03:45 |
| alterego | Already Christmas day here :O | 03:46 |
| skibur | later guys and gals | 03:50 |
| skibur | Merry Christmas | 03:50 |
| skibur | hack on | 03:50 |
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| ds3 | \ | 03:59 |
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| ixiso | Hi guys | 04:01 |
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| ixiso | Is there a workaround for r.m.o when behind a proxy? | 04:02 |
| diver_x | hi, is there a way to do a video call to a pc? and if, which software is working? | 04:03 |
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| iball | @find rawles | 04:37 |
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| timelyx | hi ixiso | 08:15 |
| timelyx | ixiso: the trick is to get your own mini proxy that lets you pick the ip address for connections | 08:16 |
| * timelyx thinks that'd work | 08:16 | |
| timelyx | hrm, maybe not | 08:16 |
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| ixiso | timelyx: does your dreamhost r.m.o thing have another alias? | 08:26 |
| unique311 | Tak, | 08:27 |
| timelyx | ixiso: um... i suppose i could stick one in..., would that help? | 08:27 |
| ixiso | That might work since the proxy might have not picked it up yet, i domt mind messing with my sources.list :) | 08:28 |
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| timelyx | ixiso: hrm... you somehow need to convince the proxy about the ip address | 08:29 |
| timelyx | because if the proxy does its own dns lookup, you lose | 08:29 |
| ixiso | Hmm. Your right | 08:30 |
| timelyx | can you telnet to the proxy? | 08:30 |
| timelyx | actually | 08:30 |
| timelyx | we can fix this today | 08:30 |
| timelyx | we just need a creative local proxy for you | 08:31 |
| timelyx | basically you need a local proxy which rewrites requests for repository.maemo.org to | 08:31 |
| timelyx | http://timeless.justdave.net/repository/repository.maemo.org/ | 08:31 |
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| timelyx | googling for perl http proxy or something should turn a couple up | 08:32 |
| ixiso | Cool | 08:32 |
| timelyx | just find one that mostly kinda works | 08:32 |
| ixiso | That was the secret url i was looking for | 08:33 |
| timelyx | then tinker with it so that it special cases that | 08:33 |
| * timelyx nods | 08:33 | |
| ixiso | :) how much space did the entire repos take? | 08:34 |
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| timelyx | more than i had | 08:42 |
| timelyx | for one, it has symlinks which means things get doubled | 08:42 |
| timelyx | for another, there are some nokia files that i don't believe i can mirror | 08:42 |
| timelyx | my guess is 20-50g, and i had ~8g of space | 08:43 |
| timelyx | i didn't mirror all repositories or all dists | 08:43 |
| timelyx | e.g. there's a thing called "contrib" which i think is some old repo, i never grabbed it | 08:43 |
| ixiso | Ic, thats a lot of space | 08:44 |
| timelyx | depends how you measure | 08:44 |
| ixiso | Anyways, i can manage to fix this by myself now | 08:44 |
| ixiso | Thanks for the help | 08:44 |
| timelyx | good luck | 08:45 |
| ixiso | And happy holidays! | 08:45 |
| timelyx | thanks for the proper seasonal greeting :) | 08:45 |
| derf | So how does one go about getting packages in maemo-extras, anyway? | 08:45 |
| timelyx | happy holidays to you too :) | 08:45 |
| timelyx | derf: very good question | 08:45 |
| timelyx | http://maemo.org/community/application-catalog/extras_repository.html | 08:46 |
| ixiso | timelyx: Im agnostc :) | 08:46 |
| ixiso | Gtg now | 08:48 |
| ixiso | Bye guys | 08:48 |
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| timelyx | derf: first question: how does one set a pgp/gpg key? | 08:49 |
| derf | timelyx: Yes. | 08:49 |
| timelyx | anyway, time for me to go | 08:49 |
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| derf | Have fun. | 08:49 |
| timelyx | to work :) | 08:50 |
| derf | I stand by my suggestion. | 08:50 |
| ol_schoola | timelyx: just got back in town, is your repo still the goto? | 08:51 |
| ol_schoola | nvr m ind, just scrolled back in logs | 08:52 |
| unique311 | !seen tak | 08:52 |
| ol_schoola | i have some reading to do ;) season's cheers to everyone, g'night | 08:53 |
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| unique311 | anyone play around with gngeo yet? | 08:54 |
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| skibur | anybody alive? | 10:38 |
| * celesteh is undead | 10:38 | |
| Taguapire | Hi... | 10:38 |
| skibur | Can OS2008 view avi files by default? | 10:38 |
| Taguapire | is there a way to run maemo bin OS image from qemu? | 10:38 |
| Taguapire | i'm trying to run it from OS X, is there an SDK for Mac? | 10:40 |
| Taguapire | it is maemo channel??? | 10:41 |
| celesteh | there is a qemu image around someplace | 10:41 |
| Taguapire | is it* | 10:41 |
| celesteh | that you can use from a mac | 10:41 |
| celesteh | i got this to kind of work once, but haven't ha dmuch chance to explore it | 10:41 |
| Taguapire | where I can find it? I had search via google, forums and torrent but nothing | 10:41 |
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| Taguapire | can I unpack the bin upgrade image for OS2008? | 10:42 |
| celesteh | i don't know very much about scratchbox | 10:42 |
| celesteh | i'm trying to remember where i saw the qemu image . . | 10:43 |
| Taguapire | because I don't know how to convert it for qemu, and It looks like a prep image for upgrade via USB. | 10:43 |
| celesteh | you want to search for qemu scratchbox in google | 10:43 |
| Taguapire | let me see! | 10:43 |
| celesteh | but i think it might have been at the maemo garage website | 10:43 |
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| Phobbes | any news on the repository debs? Is there a way to set up a testing environment without them? | 10:58 |
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| GNUton | marry xmas to you all! | 11:09 |
| timeless | how's Marry? | 11:10 |
| timeless | or who's Marry? | 11:10 |
| GNUton | s/a/e | 11:11 |
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| timeless | ping | 11:31 |
| tontsa | skibur, yes. n810 comes with preloaded musicvideos that are in .avi | 11:31 |
| timeless | tonsta, can you please explain the difference between: | 11:32 |
| timeless | https://garage.maemo.org/svn/vpnc/trunk/vpnc/ | 11:32 |
| timeless | and | 11:32 |
| timeless | https://garage.maemo.org/svn/vpnc/vpnc/trunk/ | 11:32 |
| timeless | yes i know the urls are different, but... | 11:32 |
| * timeless is trying to figure out which is "the real trunk" | 11:32 | |
| tontsa | i'm guessing someone has had a brainfart there.. and i'd go with the 2nd | 11:34 |
| tontsa | since if you go one level down you find tags and branches from that | 11:34 |
| timeless | tonsta: what's great is that the top trunk has two directories that aren't elsewhere | 11:35 |
| * timeless sighs | 11:35 | |
| timeless | people should be required to get a license to use svn | 11:35 |
| tontsa | yeah svn can work as cheap webdav-fileshare too :) | 11:36 |
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| timeless | ok, i think my svn update is done | 11:37 |
| timeless | now i just need ot figure out what happened to my rsync, figure out how many trunks/tags/branches i failed to catch | 11:38 |
| timeless | and then push a new version of garage | 11:38 |
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| maddler | morning all | 12:35 |
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| pupnik_ | a scrabble type game would be fun. wonder if it would be legal to write a 'clone' of it | 12:46 |
| timeless | http://www.filedudes.com/Scrambled-download-16764.html | 12:47 |
| glass_ | there's clones of it at least | 12:47 |
| timeless | http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/22/0149222 e-Scrabble gets Cease and Desist Order from Hasbro | 12:47 |
| glass_ | pupnik: some online scrabble works in 810's browser at least | 12:47 |
| glass_ | if using a name like e-scrabble i don't wonder | 12:48 |
| glass_ | you could change the rules a bit, like on upwords | 12:48 |
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| timeless | http://www.cheatbadger.com/Yahoo_Literati | 12:49 |
| * timeless ponders | 12:50 | |
| timeless | i think you can't make a game like monopoly where all the rules are the same and all the square have the same layout | 12:50 |
| timeless | the monopoly knock offs that i've seen which weren't official changed the board layout slightly | 12:50 |
| timeless | (the official ones kept the board layout) | 12:50 |
| pupnik_ | interesting | 12:51 |
| timeless | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=2K7&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=wisconsinopoly&spell=1 | 12:51 |
| glass_ | yep | 12:52 |
| glass_ | as long as you change rules it's not the same game... | 12:52 |
| timeless | note how park place is not properly placed in that game | 12:53 |
| timeless | from memory, that was the only significant difference | 12:53 |
| timeless | (it's not called park place, but i haven't played it in >10 years,so don't expect me to remember the names of the buildings!) | 12:53 |
| t_s_o | hmm, monopoly. i have seen a "variant" with a round board ones... | 12:53 |
| timeless | keep in mind that monopoly is fairly old | 12:54 |
| glass_ | theres lots of official variants with different names on the roads.. but afaik the pricing ratios are the same and such | 12:54 |
| glass_ | and placement on those | 12:54 |
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| timeless | monopoly is 1935, scrabble is 1948 | 12:55 |
| timeless | so whatever you can't do to monopoly, you definitely can't do to scrabble :) | 12:55 |
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| t_s_o | heh, sounds like hollywood have something to learn from hasbro when it comes to regurgitating classics... | 12:56 |
| timeless | glass_: afaik those are generally properly licensed | 12:56 |
| timeless | actually, i think i've played one other knock off | 12:56 |
| timeless | but trying to remember the name of that variant would be really pushing it | 12:56 |
| glass_ | timeless: of course, thus me regarding them as "official" variants | 12:56 |
| * timeless chuckles | 12:57 | |
| timeless | of course, the newest versions use plastic instead of cash :) | 12:57 |
| glass_ | new ones have knockoff visa cards you load instead of cash | 12:57 |
| glass_ | yeah | 12:57 |
| timeless | http://www.theage.com.au/news/games/visa-card-replaces-monopoly-money/2006/07/26/1153816231807.html | 12:57 |
| t_s_o | heh, more like oystercards then credit cards but still... | 12:58 |
| t_s_o | or rather, prepaid cards | 12:58 |
| timeless | they're listed as debit cards in the article | 12:59 |
| timeless | which is accurate enough | 12:59 |
| timeless | visa debit was the us brand | 12:59 |
| t_s_o | heh, maybe so | 12:59 |
| glass_ | well | 12:59 |
| t_s_o | hmm, £2 million. talk about inflation... | 12:59 |
| timeless | t_s_o: well, you don't win 200 <anything> in contests anymore | 12:59 |
| t_s_o | true that | 13:00 |
| glass_ | it's different.. you load the card itself, it doesn't check from itself if the account the card is attached to has any mone(like visa electron) | 13:00 |
| timeless | true... | 13:00 |
| timeless | wait | 13:00 |
| timeless | so can i use a foreign card in the reader | 13:00 |
| glass_ | it comes with cards you use.. | 13:00 |
| timeless | (i.e., one from another set) | 13:00 |
| glass_ | afaik | 13:00 |
| glass_ | i think so? | 13:01 |
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| glass_ | not totally sure though | 13:01 |
| glass_ | havent seen one | 13:01 |
| timeless | imo that's the proper test | 13:01 |
| t_s_o | i would suspect so timeless, as it probably only stores a integer of the sum on the card... | 13:01 |
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| glass_ | dunno if the cards have chips or just magnetic strips tbh | 13:01 |
| t_s_o | still, that could be funny. take a us card into a british reader, did you loose or gain, given the exchange rate? ;) | 13:02 |
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| glass_ | hehe | 13:03 |
| t_s_o | glass_: if one look at the image i think its just a magnetic strip. they seems to be inserted with the "broad" side first | 13:03 |
| glass_ | tso: maybe the balances are stored on the reader then | 13:04 |
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| glass_ | not as cool but probably cheaper.. | 13:04 |
| t_s_o | also, magnetic strip cards are probably dead cheap compared to ones with chips | 13:04 |
| glass_ | yeah | 13:04 |
| drwx | hi, do you know where I can found a xchat package for OS2008? | 13:04 |
| * timeless sighs | 13:05 | |
| timeless | i'm trying to follow an ssh connection | 13:05 |
| timeless | and i foolishly assumed it was done over ipv4 | 13:05 |
| * timeless finds the miscreant | 13:08 | |
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| unique311 | this would mean that a path is not specified | 13:24 |
| unique311 | --biospath=(null) | 13:25 |
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| timeless | ?? | 13:38 |
| unique311 | xmaeme is giving me a error message | 13:39 |
| pupnik_ | for what emu? | 13:40 |
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| unique311 | http://pastebin.ca/831789 | 13:40 |
| unique311 | gngeo | 13:40 |
| unique311 | works when i run gngeo...but when i try to run the it from xmaeme | 13:41 |
| pupnik_ | is there a fiend in the xmaeme gngeo config where it lets you specify the biospath? | 13:42 |
| unique311 | only thing that looks strange is the child procress being called flag biospath=(null) | 13:42 |
| pupnik_ | yes | 13:42 |
| unique311 | been at it all night | 13:42 |
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| unique311 | waiting on tak | 13:42 |
| unique311 | btw, speed is outstanding | 13:43 |
| unique311 | games run really nice | 13:43 |
| unique311 | missing the onscreen buttons, when i run the gngeo from the terminal. | 13:43 |
| hahlo | os2007 xterm utf-8 support how? | 13:44 |
| hahlo | doesn't reconize dpkg-reconfigure locales | 13:45 |
| unique311 | pupnik_, best emu so far. pretty much why i wasted a nights sleep on it. | 13:45 |
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| hahlo | can I connect n800 via usb from linux-pc? | 13:46 |
| hahlo | sync files and such | 13:47 |
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| unique311 | hmmm | 13:58 |
| unique311 | the release of xmaeme is pretty new... | 13:59 |
| unique311 | going to give the version prior a shot. | 13:59 |
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| pupnik | wow pandora is exactly as wide as 770 | 14:04 |
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| bedboi | is there any news about discount codes? | 14:07 |
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| unique311 | pupnik | 14:10 |
| unique311 | i installed xmame 0.10 | 14:10 |
| unique311 | then upgraded. | 14:10 |
| unique311 | and the option for bios showed up. | 14:11 |
| unique311 | biospath | 14:11 |
| pupnik | hehe | 14:11 |
| pupnik | well if I see tak, i'll mention this to him | 14:11 |
| unique311 | still no onscreen buttons | 14:12 |
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| unique311 | k, fixed that. | 14:21 |
| unique311 | blitter set to yuv in gngeorc fixed it. | 14:22 |
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| Nichod | Hi. | 14:45 |
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| diver_x | hi, is it possible to do a video call from a n800 to a pc? which software do i have to use? | 14:51 |
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| timeless | does gizmo work? | 14:53 |
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| timeless | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10050&page=2 | 14:55 |
| diver_x | gizmo is somthing like skype? | 14:55 |
| * timeless shrugs | 14:56 | |
| timeless | in that it's not made by nokia? sure | 14:56 |
| diver_x | no i mean the account-stuff | 14:56 |
| * timeless doesn't use these things | 14:56 | |
| * timeless just finds bugs in them | 14:56 | |
| diver_x | ah okay | 14:56 |
| diver_x | thx anyway, will try | 14:57 |
| unique311 | gizmo works | 14:57 |
| timeless | in case it's not clear, i'm not actively suggesting you use it | 14:57 |
| timeless | merely noting that people have mentioned it | 14:57 |
| unique311 | for video calls | 14:57 |
| * timeless provides no warrantees, recommendations, advice, certifications,... | 14:57 | |
| diver_x | :) | 14:57 |
| timeless | just ideas. | 14:57 |
| unique311 | quality is alright. | 14:57 |
| diver_x | are there any plans for skype video? | 14:58 |
| unique311 | i doubt it | 14:58 |
| timeless | ask skype? | 14:58 |
| diver_x | i did, no answer | 14:58 |
| timeless | you think asking here would yield a better answer | 14:58 |
| timeless | ? | 14:58 |
| unique311 | just install the gizmo. and be happy | 14:58 |
| diver_x | i think maybe here somebody have heard something .. | 14:58 |
| unique311 | they did what everyone thought skype was going to do for the tablet. | 14:58 |
| timeless | unique: make it work? | 15:01 |
| * timeless frowns | 15:02 | |
| * timeless remembers doing an rsync /somewhere/ | 15:02 | |
| * timeless has no idea /where/ it went | 15:02 | |
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| diver_x | i guess gizmo introduced video on pc in versino 4.0 ? | 15:11 |
| timeless | in the beta for 4.0 | 15:21 |
| timeless | i don't think 4.0 exists | 15:21 |
| hahlo | how I change default locale? utf8 | 15:22 |
| timeless | hahlo: for apps? a shell? | 15:22 |
| hahlo | yes xterm | 15:22 |
| diver_x | i downloaded gizmo for linux, which is 3.1, and there is no video option, then i tried gizmo 4.0 for windows and there is one | 15:22 |
| timeless | diver: you downloaded a beta of 4.0, no? | 15:23 |
| diver_x | Gizmo 4.0.0.325 i chose | 15:23 |
| diver_x | not from the official site | 15:24 |
| timeless | you're downloading random windows software from unofficial sites? | 15:24 |
| timeless | enjoy your virii | 15:24 |
| timeless | Gizmo 4.0 BETA | 15:24 |
| timeless | Windows Download 2007 Dec 11 . Version 4.0.0.325 . 13.5 MB | 15:24 |
| diver_x | i'm not using windows as productive system | 15:24 |
| diver_x | well then it's the beta | 15:25 |
| unique311 | timeless, make what work? | 15:26 |
| diver_x | i'll boot windows now and try, thanks a lot folks :) | 15:26 |
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| timeless | unique: what did everyone think skype was going to do for the tablet? | 15:27 |
| unique311 | so how am i suppose to make this work. | 15:27 |
| * timeless gets confused | 15:27 | |
| unique311 | i'm also confused | 15:28 |
| Veggen | I hate skype too. One should, imho, concentrate on getting sip-clients extended by video with standard codecs, etc... | 15:28 |
| unique311 | that means that convo wasn't working timeless | 15:28 |
| timeless | veggen: i used h323 >10 years ago for video conferencing | 15:29 |
| Veggen | yah. | 15:29 |
| hahlo | can n800 become skype supernode? | 15:29 |
| Veggen | hahlo: I should hope not ;) | 15:30 |
| Veggen | or, rather, since I don't use it and don't like it, I hope so. | 15:30 |
| Veggen | (as it's not gonna help skype, I think ;) | 15:30 |
| hahlo | ok my pc once got skype supernode | 15:30 |
| hahlo | I didn't like it | 15:31 |
| Veggen | hahlo: It has to do with resources - bandwidth/connectivity, mostly. | 15:31 |
| Veggen | And I know people in IT at a university that absolutely *don't* like skype ;) | 15:31 |
| hahlo | netstat showed lot of peers | 15:32 |
| hahlo | but with skype you can easily call regular phones | 15:33 |
| hahlo | timeless: is utf8 xterm possible? | 15:34 |
| * timeless considers looking for a device to see what the defaults are | 15:38 | |
| hahlo | most linux distros are utf8 now, hard to ssh them with latin xterm | 15:41 |
| script | hahlo: my 770 runs with utf8, everything fine | 15:45 |
| hahlo | cool | 15:45 |
| hahlo | how? | 15:45 |
| script | hahlo: LC_ALL=de_DE.utf-8 i guess .. | 15:46 |
| hahlo | ok must be generated utf-8 locales then | 15:46 |
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| sandyang | ??? | 15:51 |
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| svu_ | were discount codes enabled last week? | 15:54 |
| Sho_ | I don't think so, no | 15:55 |
| Sho_ | At least I have read no excalamations of joy here or in the forum, and thus didn't try myself | 15:55 |
| svu_ | :/// | 15:56 |
| svu_ | thanks | 15:56 |
| svu_ | 15.12 is long overdue | 15:57 |
| timeless | 10 is not long | 15:57 |
| timeless | you're too impatient :) | 15:57 |
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| hotgklub | http://www.hotgirlclub.net.ms check out hot girl movies | 16:05 |
| ravious | Anyone know whats up with the maemo repositories? | 16:05 |
| script | *CLICK* | 16:05 |
| ravious | seems like all of them have taken a sheet at once | 16:05 |
| timeless | ravious: maemo.org has a CDN (akamai) that handles the repositories | 16:06 |
| timeless | unfortunately, something went not quite right with that | 16:06 |
| timeless | if you don't mind an unofficial workaround, there are a couple | 16:06 |
| ravious | wonderful ;) | 16:06 |
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| timeless | some more likely to be hazardous than others | 16:06 |
| timeless | infobot repository.maemo.org deb | 16:06 |
| infobot | somebody said repository.maemo.org deb was unofficial, all warrantees void, http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/repository-maemo-org-dns-0.1.deb | 16:06 |
| ravious | haha, how hazardous? | 16:06 |
| timeless | i believe that some of the suggestions elsewhere will break your ability to update packages when you decide to switch back :) | 16:07 |
| ravious | bah, thats nothing a reflash wont fix | 16:07 |
| timeless | silly non end user | 16:07 |
| ravious | hmm | 16:08 |
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| svu_ | timeless: ok, I am slightly overjealous ;) | 16:10 |
| timeless | svu_: of what? | 16:10 |
| timeless | oh, you're 10 | 16:10 |
| svu_ | timeless: of getting n810:) | 16:10 |
| timeless | i've been waiting for a present for months | 16:10 |
| timeless | and i gave something first | 16:10 |
| guardian_ | http://repository.maemo.org/stable/chinook/maemo-sdk-nokia-binaries_4.0.sh :( | 16:13 |
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| ravious | Anyone know of any sip clients that have been ported other than the crashprone gizmo for 2006? | 16:14 |
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| unique311 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI_iyExZ7As | 16:30 |
| unique311 | made a video of gngeo emu... playing metal slug 2. | 16:31 |
| ravious | lol, nice | 16:34 |
| unique311 | it was much better quality....had to shrink it down to in order for youtube to upload it. | 16:35 |
| unique311 | loss quality doing so. | 16:35 |
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| ravious | yeah, gotta love how youtube does that | 16:36 |
| ravious | wish divx would release a nix port of their web player | 16:36 |
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| Nichod | Anyone know of a java environment port for 2008? Or someone working on one? | 16:36 |
| ravious | Im pretty sure there is someone working on JavaMe | 16:37 |
| Nichod | Think that would run jedit? | 16:37 |
| ravious | I really have no idea.. I just remember reading something about someone tryin to port it | 16:38 |
| script | i've been waiting for java for ages .. don't think anyone tries to port it | 16:38 |
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| ravious | Im pretty sure blackdown has an arm build.. once again not sure if anyone has messed with it | 16:38 |
| unique311 | qt port. | 16:38 |
| unique311 | nice | 16:38 |
| Nichod | Really want something other than vim :( | 16:40 |
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| pupnik | p&|a ! :) | 16:41 |
| ravious | nano ::shrugs:: | 16:41 |
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| pupnik | i wish my stoopid camera would foxus on screen better .. heh nice gngeo vid unique311 ... strange how the buttons don't come up right away | 16:43 |
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| pupnik | so nice to hear clear sound on an emu... | 16:45 |
| unique311 | my only issue with it. | 16:47 |
| unique311 | but gameplay rocks | 16:47 |
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| ravious | now ya just need a usb game pad ;) | 16:47 |
| unique311 | wonder if he can do the same with desmume pupnik | 16:48 |
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| unique311 | ravious, gamepad not needed. | 16:48 |
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| unique311 | maybe for the fight games | 16:48 |
| ravious | thats kewl, so the on screen controls work pretty well then? | 16:49 |
| unique311 | yes | 16:49 |
| unique311 | the hardware direction pad sucks. | 16:49 |
| ravious | yeah, i tried out the nes emu on my 770.. It worked ok.. but when ya need to run and jump at the same time.. thats when ya had issues lol | 16:50 |
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| pupnik | i feel bad i didn't stick it out and get drpocketsnes working | 16:53 |
| pupnik | maybe in 2008 | 16:53 |
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| truent | xbox 360 wired gamepad is usb.. it works in linux.. heh that'd be crazy to play a game with that on the n8oo | 17:26 |
| timeless | ok, i know someone's trying to use my repository for gregale / extras-, i'm sorry, it's rebuilding now | 17:29 |
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| itnomad | I've checked the troubleshooting section, and the links on joining #maemo. I am getting an error on trying to flash my Nokia 800 with the new os. "invalid FIASCO file header" | 17:40 |
| itnomad | What am I doing wrong? | 17:40 |
| timeless | did you check the checksum (md5sum) | 17:40 |
| itnomad | no | 17:41 |
| timeless | and what file / url are you using, and which flasher, on which platform | 17:41 |
| timeless | check the checksum first :) | 17:41 |
| itnomad | flasher-3.0 on a Fedora 8. Will check the checksum. Thanks. | 17:41 |
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| Vulcanis | I recently got one of the igo BT keyboards... but it fails to pair | 17:50 |
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| Vulcanis | it is seen in the window, but when I try to pair it, it fails. | 17:50 |
| Jon | a | 17:51 |
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| itnomad | timeless: the checksum did not match, then I realized that I had downloaded two files. the .bin file and a php script. The md5sum matches the php script but not the .bin file. So I am confused. from the instructions on the wiki, I thought I was supposed to use the flasher on the .bin file. | 17:55 |
| timeless | filenames are randomized by web browsers | 17:56 |
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| timeless | each browser has its own rather confused view of the world | 17:56 |
| timeless | the wiki almost certainly works for *one* web browser | 17:56 |
| timeless | but documenting all browsers is beyond the scope of any normal wiki :) | 17:56 |
| timeless | heck, on average, documenting any one web browser's behavior in this area is beyond the abilities of most engineers :) | 17:57 |
| timeless | anyway, glad you found the file you needed | 17:57 |
| timeless | if the wiki is editable and doesn't tell you to checksum before using, you should fix that :) | 17:57 |
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| hahlo | if gecko is supported, it is enough | 17:57 |
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| maddler | hey all | 18:03 |
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| itnomad | I'm using Firefox. I ran the flasher on the nokia_N800.php and it worked. | 18:10 |
| itnomad | This new screen is very nice. | 18:10 |
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| pupnik | new what screen? | 18:11 |
| VRe | hmm.. n800 is in rd-mode and sucks battery as a pro, i don't have cables to run flasher and cal-tool can not set rd-mode off | 18:11 |
| pupnik | too bad | 18:12 |
| itnomad | wow! I'm going to go play... the os2008 desktop i meant. Thanks for the help and Merry errr I mean Happy Holidays:) | 18:13 |
| pupnik | shouldn't enable it | 18:13 |
| pupnik | enjoy | 18:13 |
| VRe | sometimes I wish the enviroment would be bit more complete on the device, but I suppose on internal flash it is not possible | 18:13 |
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| pupnik | yeah... ability to pop-in different OSes with SD cards on N800 is pretty awesome | 18:16 |
| pupnik | cheapo 2GB OS plus as many programs as you care to install on one card, data/media on another | 18:17 |
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| pupnik | one card is usable, but two iz awesome | 18:17 |
| dragorn | VRe: r&d mode has an impact on battery life? Got any docs on that, never heard of it myself. (I'm willing to be proven wrong here, I'm just surprised) | 18:17 |
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| VRe | dragorn: yeah, it affects. Some of the power saving options are not in use | 18:18 |
| dragorn | VRe: interesting | 18:18 |
| VRe | + depending what else you have turned on | 18:18 |
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| patleeman | hello all | 18:19 |
| VRe | dragorn: thats why rd-mode is bad on normal use (use the gainroot deb trick), but on devel it might be sometimes helpful | 18:20 |
| dragorn | VRe: Hm, like I said, I'm willing to be proven wrong, but I've never heard this. And I've been running my stuff in r&d since the 770 came out :P | 18:20 |
| dragorn | VRe: I'll have to do some tests later | 18:21 |
| VRe | dragorn: and never wondered why the battery doesnt last standby for a week? =) | 18:21 |
| dragorn | I know I've been able to ruin battery life getting kismet working :P | 18:21 |
| dragorn | It gets mighty sad when wifi power saving is turned off, unfortunately the wifi power api suuuucks. | 18:22 |
| dragorn | VRe: Honestly nothing else i have lasts in standby a week, I'd never considered it. | 18:22 |
| pupnik | rd-mode is a great way for noobs to ruin their tablets using the stylus | 18:22 |
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| dragorn | heh. Well, at least I've got legitimate uses for it, I'm just surprised it has that much impact, either I didn't read or it wasn't documented very well back when I started turning it on w/ the 770, I'll admit I've never really read the docs since then :P | 18:23 |
| VRe | I have had problems with wifi powersaving with one daemon-process too. Seems some settings in some ap's make incoming traffic go to null | 18:23 |
| pupnik | in other words, if you want to do something, and you think you need rd-mode, reconsider, because you don't need rd-mode | 18:23 |
| dragorn | VRe: oh theres all sorts of ways to screw up wireless | 18:23 |
| dragorn | VRe: if the AP doesn't behave with powersave frames you can tank client devices easily | 18:24 |
| dragorn | VRe: it's a big problem with voip phones too, so at least corporate style APs will generally behave well | 18:24 |
| VRe | I had some nice software stack way back which demanded turning watchdog off :) | 18:24 |
| dragorn | VRe: ouch | 18:24 |
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| VRe | It not usable any ways (maybe on desktop) but it was demo.. so.. | 18:25 |
| VRe | but 770 with os2006 was a bit slow.. | 18:25 |
| dragorn | I've got to figure out how the os2008 broke usb | 18:26 |
| dragorn | and how easily I can wedge it | 18:26 |
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| VRe | atleast serial console eats battery it seems | 18:29 |
| ph|ber | yo | 18:29 |
| ph|ber | what repo has adduser | 18:29 |
| dragorn | just vi /etc/passwd :P | 18:31 |
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| ph|ber | it is a required package for something | 18:32 |
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| VRe | ph|ber: check the gronmayer link in the topic | 18:33 |
| ph|ber | i know the page but i still need to know the repo | 18:34 |
| ph|ber | nm just saw the search | 18:35 |
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| Andy80 | Merry Christmas to all! :) | 18:35 |
| kpel | hi all | 18:35 |
| kpel | Merry Christmas! | 18:35 |
| timeless | vre: that's why capture-root is your friend | 18:36 |
| timeless | using r&d mode is only good for killing batteries dead :) | 18:36 |
| timeless | dragorn: serial-console is murder on battery life | 18:37 |
| timeless | i'm not sure about the others | 18:37 |
| dragorn | well yeah i'd expect that, I was just surprised that leaving a device with the r&d flag set would affect it as much | 18:37 |
| hahlo | how you turn off r&d mode? | 18:37 |
| dragorn | so serial console, will that get you proper console w/ kernel panics, etc? | 18:37 |
| dragorn | hahlo: flasher | 18:38 |
| hahlo | and loose all settings | 18:38 |
| timeless | hahlo: personally, i make the person who turned it on turn it off :) | 18:38 |
| timeless | hahlo: no | 18:38 |
| timeless | flasher has some args which don't trigger a reflash | 18:39 |
| timeless | the r&d flags stuff are among them | 18:39 |
| timeless | read the help from flasher3 | 18:39 |
| hahlo | ok | 18:39 |
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| hahlo | gainroot ain't work then? | 18:39 |
| timeless | it won't, right | 18:40 |
| timeless | use capture-root :) | 18:40 |
| timeless | infobot capture-root? | 18:40 |
| timeless | infobot capture-root deb? | 18:40 |
| * timeless shrugs | 18:40 | |
| timeless | http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/capture-root-0.1.deb | 18:40 |
| hahlo | ok, I have wondered short battery life | 18:41 |
| timeless | note: there are lots of ways to get a short battery life | 18:42 |
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| ph|ber | shit no adduser for 810 | 18:46 |
| Andy80 | timeless: is it similar to sudo gainroot? | 18:48 |
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| timeless | andy80: kinda, sorta, | 18:49 |
| timeless | ssh root@127.1 | 18:49 |
| timeless | almost as short :) | 18:50 |
| guardian | does someone have this file on his/her disk ? http://repository.maemo.org/stable/chinook/maemo-sdk-nokia-binaries_4.0.sh | 18:50 |
| guardian | repository.maemo.org is hmm in its usual state :D | 18:51 |
| timeless | that's one of the few files i intentionally do not mirror | 18:51 |
| timeless | it's i believe the major reason people @n said mirroring isn't really allowed | 18:51 |
| timeless | sorry :( | 18:51 |
| guardian | why do i always choose to setup/upgrade targets when it's borked :( | 18:53 |
| hahlo | are those usb-host patches usefully to some purpose? | 18:53 |
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| timeless | ? | 18:54 |
| hahlo | I found some kernel patches | 18:54 |
| hahlo | to 2.6.18 omap | 18:54 |
| hahlo | just wonder should I patch | 18:55 |
| timeless | the sources for the kernel shouldn't be very secret | 18:55 |
| hahlo | patching kernel is fun in pc | 18:56 |
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| tsavola | is flash9 available for os2007he? | 19:03 |
| tsavola | and which one should i use, 4.2007.45 or .46? | 19:03 |
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| timeless | flash9 isn't legally available if you don't own an n800/n810 | 19:04 |
| timeless | if you have an n800/n810 then you have a flash9 binary that could work on an armel device running os2007 | 19:05 |
| tsavola | could or will? | 19:05 |
| timeless | does? | 19:05 |
| tsavola | does it? | 19:05 |
| timeless | yes | 19:05 |
| timeless | but you need to put it in the right place w/ the right dependencies :) | 19:05 |
| tsavola | are the instructions somewhere? | 19:06 |
| tsavola | (i.e. all the files) | 19:06 |
| timeless | i think the general instructions are in the browser announcement page | 19:06 |
| timeless | http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/6/ | 19:06 |
| timeless | note: i'm assuming nothing has changed since then | 19:07 |
| timeless | for all i know nokia decided to get a license for 770 for flash 9 and it's included in the flash image | 19:07 |
| timeless | (confusing isn't that flash in flash) | 19:07 |
| timeless | but i think that's highly unlikely :) | 19:07 |
| * timeless certainly wouldn't spend the money for it | 19:08 | |
| tsavola | and which one should i use, 4.2007.45 or .46? | 19:09 |
| tsavola | there is a news item linkin to .45 but not .46 | 19:09 |
| * timeless uses 2.1 - 2.2006.39-14 scirocco | 19:09 | |
| timeless | generally you probably should use the latest number | 19:10 |
| timeless | i have no idea what's in any of those images | 19:10 |
| timeless | i'm not even sure how to find out | 19:10 |
| tsavola | thanks, you've been helpful | 19:11 |
| gw280 | I wonder if it's possible to use youtube-dl to create a standalone youtube video playing app | 19:12 |
| timeless | i don't suppose anyone's seen any leaked urls relating to hacker edition? | 19:12 |
| * timeless sighs | 19:13 | |
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| gw280 | timeless: hrm? | 19:13 |
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| timeless | gw280: i'm looking for the name of the server that was used to make 2007he builds | 19:15 |
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| timeless | where'd you find news about 4.2007.45? | 19:23 |
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| Sikor-n800 | hi,i | 19:54 |
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| Sikor-n800 | hi, is there a tool for linux to convert videos to a format the n800/os2008 plays without choppyness? | 19:56 |
| timeless | yes | 19:57 |
| timeless | <insert-standard-jaffa-plug-here> | 19:57 |
| Sikor-n800 | jaffa plugin? | 19:58 |
| timeless | no, jaffa's a person | 19:58 |
| pupnik | garage, mediaconverter i think is the name | 20:01 |
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| pupnik | used to be 770-encode.pl | 20:01 |
| Sikor-n800 | any link available to "his" plugins? | 20:01 |
| Sikor-n800 | ah thanks | 20:01 |
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| abrilc | What bittorrent client are you using? | 20:23 |
| Ulysses223 | deluge on ubuntu | 20:25 |
| abrilc | On maemo i would say.. :) | 20:25 |
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| Ulysses223 | sorry, got carried away. No bittorent, but I use nicotine as a soulseek client | 20:26 |
| abrilc | Ther's no bittorrent client available on os2008? | 20:27 |
| Ulysses223 | Dunno, you probably can cross-compile a couple of 'em. | 20:28 |
| Ulysses223 | The original one is written in python, it should'nt be a problem | 20:28 |
| Ulysses223 | if you don't mind a console based client, you have more options | 20:28 |
| abrilc | Gnome-bt-download could be a good point. | 20:29 |
| Ulysses223 | http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-command-line-bittorrent-client.html | 20:30 |
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| thopiekar | hi there | 20:30 |
| Ulysses223 | http://ctorrent.sourceforge.net | 20:32 |
| pupnik | moohoo | 20:32 |
| pupnik | ctorrent works ok. rtorrent crashing on me | 20:32 |
| thopiekar | somebody german here!? | 20:32 |
| thopiekar | *transmission is the torrent-client for N800 eva^^* | 20:33 |
| abrilc | thopiekar , n800 with os2007, no? | 20:34 |
| astro76 | abrilc, http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/transmission/ | 20:34 |
| abrilc | Uoh! | 20:35 |
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| thopiekar | n800 with os2008 or os2007 both works | 20:35 |
| thopiekar | you can find transmission an the maemo hompage | 20:36 |
| thopiekar | ^^ | 20:36 |
| thopiekar | search at OS2008 first | 20:36 |
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| thopiekar | is there a gnutella-client for meamo, too?? | 20:37 |
| abrilc | :D, pardon ne, i'm with the it only now, and i asked here for comfort excuse me again ;) | 20:38 |
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| abrilc | Really, i don't know how install without the click install from maemo website yet too. ... :S | 20:42 |
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| thopiekar | do you want to install transmission now, or what? | 20:43 |
| abrilc | Yep | 20:43 |
| abrilc | But i don,t have it at my repos... | 20:44 |
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| thopiekar | go to link http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/transmission/ | 20:44 |
| thopiekar | now touch Homepage under Links on your N800 | 20:45 |
| thopiekar | an download this file: https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/2831/Transmission-0.96.chinook.rev15.deb | 20:46 |
| thopiekar | you have got OS2008, right? | 20:46 |
| thopiekar | if you have OS2007, download this: https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/2812/Transmission-0.95.bora.rev14.deb | 20:47 |
| abrilc | Yep | 20:47 |
| Ulysses223 | Is there anyone here who downgraded from OS2008 back to OS2007 on the N800? Just curious... | 20:47 |
| thopiekar | ready?^^ | 20:47 |
| thopiekar | yeah me | 20:47 |
| abrilc | Yeahh!! | 20:47 |
| thopiekar | but the "filerestore" doesn't work | 20:47 |
| Ulysses223 | Would you mind to tell us why? | 20:47 |
| thopiekar | hmm, i don't know | 20:48 |
| thopiekar | because of this I Upgraded back to OS2008 | 20:49 |
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| thopiekar | hi tim | 20:49 |
| thopiekar | hi all | 20:49 |
| thopiekar | Has somebody Canola2 on his/her N800? | 20:50 |
| timeless | i know people have installed it, why do you ask? | 20:50 |
| thopiekar | I can't get the libarys and phyton-packages | 20:50 |
| thopiekar | installed | 20:50 |
| timeless | infobot repository.maemo.org deb | 20:50 |
| infobot | i heard repository.maemo.org deb is unofficial, all warrantees void, http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/repository-maemo-org-dns-0.1.deb | 20:50 |
| timeless | if use that deb, you shouldn't have a problem installing canola2 | 20:51 |
| thopiekar | does it waork?? | 20:51 |
| thopiekar | work?? | 20:51 |
| timeless | feel free to remove the deb at any time | 20:51 |
| timeless | i've had a number of satisfied customers :) | 20:51 |
| thopiekar | thanks man^^ | 20:51 |
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| thopiekar | timeless , I Installed your deb-package | 21:02 |
| thopiekar | but it doesn't work | 21:02 |
| thopiekar | do i have to reboot? | 21:02 |
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| Ulysses223 | Does OS2008 has PPTP support? On OS2007 you had to reflash the kernel with MPPE encryption support. | 21:04 |
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| acydlord | there is a pptp app in one of the repos | 21:06 |
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| Ulysses223 | ok, but do you have to use a 3rd party kernel? | 21:07 |
| acydlord | don't believe so, let me check | 21:07 |
| acydlord | doesnt look like it needs a special client, installed and ran fine | 21:09 |
| acydlord | it's called pptpclient | 21:09 |
| Ulysses223 | good news, thanks! | 21:10 |
| acydlord | it's in the lancode.de repo | 21:11 |
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| script | damn ... ConIC automatic-events aren't working on OS2006 | 21:31 |
| RST38h | Anybody knows what I have to do when building a package to make Maemo "find" my application icons ? | 21:31 |
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| RST38h | Right now I am getting "Icon 'name' not present in theme" | 21:31 |
| script | ok .. its named automatic-connection-events there .. *confused* | 21:32 |
| script | RST38h: tell your configuration-management to put them into the right place | 21:34 |
| script | e.g. /usr/share/icons/hicolor/ | 21:34 |
| script | RST38h: https://script.shacknet.nu:81/vpnc-gui/trunk/configure.in | 21:35 |
| script | not pretty but icons work ;) | 21:35 |
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| RST38h | I already did | 21:35 |
| RST38h | They are there, but still do not show up | 21:36 |
| RST38h | Is there anything I have to do other than placing them into those directories? | 21:36 |
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| script | RST38h: where do you want it to show up? window-manager? | 21:37 |
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| script | Is there anyone who can confirm a change from "automatic-connection-events" -> "automatic-events" (3.X -> 4.X) | 21:39 |
| script | looks like the documnetaion is incorrect | 21:39 |
| RST38h | script: the application menu | 21:40 |
| RST38h | script: I guess in Extras submenu where my application is | 21:40 |
| script | RST38h: do you have a proper desktop file? | 21:41 |
| RST38h | yes | 21:41 |
| pupnik | with a top hat and tails? | 21:41 |
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| script | maemo-select-menu-location xyz.desktop? | 21:42 |
| script | gtk-update-icon-cache maybe? | 21:42 |
| RST38h | done gtk-update | 21:42 |
| RST38h | did not do maemo-select-etc | 21:42 |
| timelyx | maemo-select is an install thing that merely lets the user pick the folder | 21:43 |
| timelyx | it's uninterestin | 21:43 |
| sp3000 | timelyx: what am I considering in bug 266? | 21:43 |
| timelyx | sp3000: the question was do i resolve as FIXED because 2008/microb has what the user wanted | 21:44 |
| timelyx | or wontfix because opera isn't being fixed | 21:44 |
| script | is there any "standard" way of escaping characters in gconf-keys? | 21:44 |
| * timelyx picked fixed | 21:44 | |
| RST38h | Is it ok to paste .desktop file here? | 21:44 |
| RST38h | \ | 21:44 |
| timelyx | RST38h: pastebin.mozilla.org | 21:44 |
| script | RST38h: use pastebin instead | 21:44 |
| timelyx | or some other pastebin | 21:44 |
| RST38h | aha | 21:44 |
| RST38h | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/278892 | 21:44 |
| RST38h | Proper fmsx.png files have been placed into 26x26/hildon, 40x40/hildon, scalable/hildon | 21:45 |
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| Vulcanis | Anyone here had luck with bluetooth kbs in OS2008? | 21:46 |
| timelyx | infobot mxr.maemo.org deb | 21:46 |
| infobot | well, mxr.maemo.org deb is unofficial, all warrantees void, http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/mxr-maemo-org-dns-0.1.deb | 21:46 |
| timelyx | RST38h: mxr.maemo.org can be moderately helpful for comparing what others do | 21:47 |
| timelyx | /maemopad-2.1/data/maemopad.desktop, | 21:47 |
| timelyx | * line 8 -- X-Window-Icon=maemopad | 21:47 |
| timelyx | * line 9 -- X-Window-Icon-Dimmed=maemopad | 21:47 |
| timelyx | /maemopad-2.1/data/icons/26x26/maemopad.png | 21:48 |
| timelyx | /maemopad-2.1/data/icons/40x40/maemopad.png | 21:48 |
| timelyx | /maemopad-2.1/data/icons/scalable/maemopad.png | 21:48 |
| RST38h | yes, I have seen this many times by now | 21:49 |
| RST38h | in fact, you can see that I have copied these lines, just changed icon name | 21:49 |
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| RST38h | still doesn't work - that's why I am asking | 21:49 |
| sp3000 | timelyx: hum, http://mxr.maemo.org/garage/source/maemopadplus/trunk/it2008/ picks the weirdest text | 21:53 |
| timelyx | lol | 21:54 |
| timelyx | it was supposed to pick the description line | 21:55 |
| sp3000 | you're expecting a description body? | 21:55 |
| timelyx | yes | 21:55 |
| timelyx | isn't that a requirement? | 21:55 |
| * timelyx sighs | 21:55 | |
| timelyx | i claim that file is buggy | 21:55 |
| timelyx | however, yeah, i can try to do something about it | 21:56 |
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| sp3000 | dunno if it's required, but the following like is not a continuation so structurally it's validly not there | 21:56 |
| sp3000 | s/like/line/ | 21:56 |
| infobot | sp3000 meant: dunno if it's required, but the following line is not a continuation so structurally it's validly not there | 21:56 |
| * sp3000 wonders if line 7 is valid | 21:57 | |
| timelyx | the blank line? | 21:57 |
| sp3000 | yeah | 21:57 |
| sp3000 | oh, it's a record separator between the source and package records, nm | 21:59 |
| sp3000 | I think | 21:59 |
| * sp3000 shrugs :) | 21:59 | |
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| timelyx | ok, got it | 22:04 |
| timelyx | i was expecting foopy: not foo-py: | 22:05 |
| timelyx | reload | 22:05 |
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| * timelyx frowns | 22:06 | |
| timelyx | it doesn't seem like garage should have both it2006 and it2008 | 22:06 |
| timelyx | whose clever idea was it to have trunk/foo6 and trunk/foo8 | 22:06 |
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| timelyx | sp3000: ok, i've deleted it2006 and it2008, you'll have to use unified to verify it's fixed :) | 22:12 |
| timelyx | eww | 22:13 |
| timelyx | that's odd | 22:13 |
| timelyx | oh | 22:13 |
| timelyx | they suck | 22:13 |
| timelyx | there's no control file in unified | 22:13 |
| timelyx | http://mxr.maemo.org/garage-all/source/maemopadplus/trunk/ | 22:13 |
| timelyx | use that to verify :) | 22:13 |
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| timelyx | sp3000: ok, i've fixed the double spacing | 22:23 |
| timelyx | that was a stupid thing | 22:23 |
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| timelyx | sp3000: how's this for a file: | 22:25 |
| timelyx | http://mxr.maemo.org/garage-all/source/ephone/trunk/src/handoff/main.h | 22:25 |
| timelyx | it's 1 byte :) | 22:25 |
| sp3000 | clever | 22:26 |
| sp3000 | oh, they're including it, too :) | 22:27 |
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| timelyx | http://mxr.maemo.org/garage/source/dsp-alsa/alsa-plugin/debian/ | 22:28 |
| timelyx | i'm trying to figure out why that stuff is double spaced | 22:28 |
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| timelyx | ok, i found the problem | 22:33 |
| Vulcanis | Has anyone had any luck with bluetooth kbs and OS2008? | 22:42 |
| timelyx | Vulcanis: most people seem happy w/ them... | 22:44 |
| Vulcanis | I recently bought one of the igo ones, and for some reason pairing keeps failing | 22:45 |
| Vulcanis | I believe General reccomended it, so I think it should work | 22:46 |
| timelyx | sp3000: how's http://mxr.maemo.org/garage/source/browser-extras/trunk/dictionaries/ look ? | 22:48 |
| * timelyx sighs | 22:49 | |
| timelyx | they suck | 22:49 |
| timelyx | http://mxr.maemo.org/garage/source/browser-extras/trunk/dictionaries/ | 22:49 |
| timelyx | that's so bogus | 22:49 |
| timelyx | err | 22:50 |
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| timelyx | http://mxr.maemo.org/garage/source/browser-extras/trunk/dictionaries/english_british-dictionary/debian/control#13 | 22:50 |
| timelyx | eep | 22:53 |
| * timelyx sighs | 22:53 | |
| * timelyx forgot to fix the index | 22:53 | |
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| timelyx | http://mxr.maemo.org/garage/source/pyphantom/trunk/examples/MyImage/MyImage/ | 22:59 |
| thopiekar | hey timeless, are you there? | 22:59 |
| timelyx | Parent directory - Dec 25 10:10 <insert up to 60 chars description> | 22:59 |
| timelyx | thopiekar: yeah | 23:00 |
| * timelyx sighs | 23:01 | |
| timelyx | sp3000: check out | 23:01 |
| timelyx | http://mxr.maemo.org/garage/source/wlanpos/mapper/trunk/ | 23:01 |
| timelyx | http://mxr.maemo.org/garage/source/wlanpos/mapper/trunk/debian/ | 23:01 |
| timelyx | http://mxr.maemo.org/garage/source/wlanpos/mapper/trunk/debian/control#12 | 23:01 |
| thopiekar | I want to install canola2 , but it doesn't work | 23:01 |
| timelyx | thopiekar: load http://repository.maemo.org/xx in the browser on your device | 23:01 |
| sp3000 | timelyx: :\ | 23:01 |
| timelyx | what does it say | 23:01 |
| timelyx | sp3000: someone clearly didn't read the packaging instructions | 23:02 |
| timelyx | sp3000: otoh, overall, w/ very few changes, the parser is a lot better | 23:02 |
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| timelyx | i still need to fix README | 23:02 |
| timelyx | which ends up as README">README :( | 23:02 |
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| thopiekar | timelyx: the browser says:Sorry, I can't find that file | 23:03 |
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| timelyx | thopiekar: oh good | 23:03 |
| timelyx | ok, so, you probably just need to flush your cache | 23:04 |
| timelyx | sp3000 can probably better explain how to do that :) | 23:04 |
| thopiekar | timelyx: how can I "flush" my cache? | 23:05 |
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| sp3000 | package cache? I guess that's rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb or "clean apt cache" in redpill mode appmgr settings, or default in normal mode | 23:07 |
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| timelyx | sp3000: i'm thinking the package lists stuff | 23:09 |
| sp3000 | does refresh give wrong answers? | 23:09 |
| timelyx | dunno :) | 23:10 |
| sp3000 | i.e. cache hits for broken content? | 23:10 |
| sp3000 | thopiekar: does it work if you refresh package lists? | 23:10 |
| thopiekar | yes | 23:12 |
| sp3000 | oh, and which of the various "it"s work? | 23:13 |
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| thopiekar | there are no messages about a problem with a repo | 23:14 |
| sp3000 | does the install work? | 23:14 |
| * sp3000 doesn't even know if it works for others :) | 23:14 | |
| thopiekar | of canola? | 23:14 |
| thopiekar | no the installlation of the eva-packages doesn't work | 23:15 |
| thopiekar | the installation of the python2.5-runtime works very well | 23:16 |
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| thopiekar | how can I install the eva-packages now?? | 23:18 |
| timelyx | thopiekar: give me a few secs | 23:18 |
| sp3000 | evas? | 23:19 |
| timelyx | gah, stupid 199 files | 23:19 |
| timelyx | thopiekar: i need to kick a few things | 23:19 |
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| thopiekar | to get I work or what? | 23:20 |
| sp3000 | ah, Evas is a hardware-accelerated canvas API for X-Windows that can draw anti-aliased text, smooth super and sub-sampled images, alpha-blend | 23:20 |
| timelyx | thopiekar: ok, evas should be available in a minute | 23:21 |
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| timelyx | try now | 23:21 |
| thopiekar | yes and this is needed for canola2 | 23:21 |
| thopiekar | ok I need to refresh the packagelist now right? | 23:22 |
| timelyx | i don't think so | 23:22 |
| * timelyx shrugs | 23:22 | |
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| |tbb| | could anyone pm me? i would like to know if pidgin sounds work 4 me | 23:23 |
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| thopiekar | the osso-packagemanager crashed | 23:26 |
| thopiekar | I will try I now for a 2th time | 23:27 |
| timelyx | heh\ | 23:27 |
| thopiekar | the installation of libevas0 work I will try the others, too | 23:30 |
| timelyx | shouldn't you just install canola2 and let it figure out the depends? | 23:30 |
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| timelyx | if specific things fail, please let me know, i'll fix them | 23:31 |
| thopiekar | the simple installation of canola 2 by installing it with package at the osso-packagemanager fails everytime... | 23:34 |
| thopiekar | I will search now which pachage cause this bugg | 23:34 |
| timelyx | arg | 23:36 |
| * timelyx sighs | 23:36 | |
| * timelyx kicks some files | 23:36 | |
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| timelyx | thopiekar: sorry... i need to write a script that monitors file quality to catch these stupid 199s | 23:38 |
| timelyx | ok, all the files in the last 5000 hits should be ok | 23:38 |
| Jiten | ah, os2008 update server's load seems to have settled :) | 23:39 |
| Vulcanis | Does anyone know if the pcsx port works with os2008? | 23:39 |
| thopiekar | yeah it works | 23:39 |
| thopiekar | I love you all | 23:39 |
| thopiekar | yeaaaahhhhh!!! | 23:40 |
| timelyx | thopiekar: thanks for helping | 23:40 |
| timelyx | satisfied_customers++ | 23:40 |
| thopiekar | no problem man^^ | 23:40 |
| thopiekar | thank you too | 23:40 |
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| timelyx | sp3000: opinions on the 1 line desc for: | 23:46 |
| timelyx | http://mxr.maemo.org/garage/source/vpnc/trunk/athena-jot/debian/ | 23:46 |
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| thopiekar | hi there again | 23:49 |
| thopiekar | I've got a problem with canola2 | 23:49 |
| thopiekar | it ddoesn'tt run | 23:50 |
| tontsa_ | if you start it from xterm do you get any hints | 23:50 |
| thopiekar | so I decidet to use the xterm | 23:50 |
| thopiekar | hehe | 23:50 |
| thopiekar | BusyBox v1.6.1 (2007-09-27 18:08:59 EEST) Built-in shell (ash) | 23:50 |
| thopiekar | Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands. | 23:50 |
| thopiekar | ~ $ canola | 23:50 |
| thopiekar | Traceback (most recent call last): | 23:50 |
| thopiekar | File "/usr/bin/canola", line 18, in ? | 23:50 |
| thopiekar | import ecore | 23:50 |
| thopiekar | ImportError: No module named ecore | 23:50 |
| thopiekar | ~ $ | 23:50 |
| infobot | somebody said $ was a dollar sign | 23:51 |
| tontsa_ | so you are missing some python dependancy | 23:51 |
| thopiekar | what can I do now? | 23:51 |
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| tontsa_ | install python2.5-ecore from mameo Extras | 23:52 |
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| tontsa_ | maemo* | 23:52 |
| thopiekar | ok | 23:52 |
| |tbb| | could anyone pm me? i would like to know if pidgin sounds work 4 me | 23:52 |
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| timelyx | odd, it looks like he already got that | 23:52 |
| mmr7 | erm | 23:53 |
| mmr7 | any experts online | 23:53 |
| timelyx | just us fish | 23:53 |
| mmr7 | lol | 23:53 |
| mmr7 | ok | 23:53 |
| mmr7 | who uses mplayer | 23:53 |
| playya | updated the package list? | 23:53 |
| |tbb| | for what exactly the dictionary packets under webaddons are? | 23:54 |
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| timelyx | |tbb|: spell checker? | 23:54 |
| mmr7 | anyone? | 23:54 |
| * timelyx doesn't believe in audio/video | 23:54 | |
| mmr7 | okok | 23:54 |
| mmr7 | but anyone else | 23:55 |
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| thopiekar | tontsa_: python2.5-ecore is installed | 23:55 |
| |tbb| | while writing emails under web interface? | 23:55 |
| tontsa_ | thopiekar, i guess something has gone awfully wrong then | 23:55 |
| timelyx | |tbb|: or bug comments, or blogs | 23:55 |
| |tbb| | k | 23:55 |
| mmr7 | come on | 23:56 |
| mmr7 | anyone? | 23:56 |
| timelyx | sp3000: something's wrong here :( | 23:56 |
| timelyx | http://mxr.maemo.org/garage/source/maemoexamples/trunk/ | 23:56 |
| thopiekar | tontsa_: reinstall? | 23:56 |
| K`zan | 404 | 23:56 |
| tontsa_ | thopiekar, you might run into dependancy jungle.. worth a try though | 23:57 |
| timelyx | tontsa_: does python have a cache? | 23:57 |
| tontsa_ | not that i know of | 23:57 |
| mmr7 | alright so noone then | 23:57 |
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| tontsa_ | but if this is related to your dnshack, the dnsmasq has cache | 23:58 |
| sp3000 | timelyx: athena looks fine? | 23:59 |
| sp3000 | what's with examples? | 23:59 |
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| timelyx | sp3000: for some reason the line counting stuff broke i think | 23:59 |
| |tbb| | i would like to install om weather but before it downloads it progmanager says installfile corrupt,any idea whats wrong? | 23:59 |
| sp3000 | hm, README">README!!! | 23:59 |
| timelyx | there's supposed to be a cutoff | 23:59 |
| timelyx | sp3000: that's the oldest bug in the book | 23:59 |
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