| SE-Wilco2 | Tak|work: I suppose the bandwidth would allow streaming 1/30 sec of sound data on the video screen, but you'd need a camera feeding a speaker to use the data. | 00:02 |
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| SE-Wilco2 | Can you dump the sound data to a file or RAM buffer? That would let you time the data rate at that measurement point. | 00:05 |
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| SE-Wilco2 | Is the sound driver keeping the CPU, so the app can't buffer up more data until the sound driver uses it all up? | 00:07 |
| pupnik | bizarre - when i disable sound i get 12 fps, and with sound i get like 32 | 00:07 |
| pupnik | um SE-Wilco2 it's hard to answer those questions | 00:08 |
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| pupnik | one explanation i've read online is that sdl has problems with emulators and sound | 00:09 |
| pupnik | and i could only paste the link, don't want to offer a poor recap of it | 00:10 |
| SE-Wilco2 | I know. I've done some dev driver programming. I haven't looked at this code for a while, though, so I'm mentioning some interactions which might be there. | 00:10 |
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| hieppo | newbie here can someone help me display the turn-off button in 2007he | 00:14 |
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| hieppo | anyone??? | 00:15 |
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| pupnik | system("shutdown -h now") ? :) | 00:17 |
| ||cw | don't you just push the power button? | 00:17 |
| SE-Wilco2 | I don't know what 2007he is. I just hold down the recessed power button on the top of my N800 for a couple of seconds to get the off selection window. | 00:17 |
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| hieppo | yes the power button is there but I thought you can have a software button as well | 00:20 |
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| Esworp | would anyone care to reccomend a good case for the n800? | 00:34 |
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| Blacksitox | bye | 00:50 |
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| esworp | has anyone here used pan on the n800? | 01:53 |
| esworp | i get a hang when trying to get a group list | 01:54 |
| pupnik | anybody feel like working on gp2x fceu -> nokia port with me? :/ | 01:56 |
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| * pupnik is making some headway | 01:57 | |
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| bobbyw | hello | 02:28 |
| pupnik | greetings | 02:29 |
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| bobbyw | I just got my first tablet yesterday, just checking everything out | 02:31 |
| bobbyw | seems to be a rather large community of educated people with these babies | 02:31 |
| pupnik | congratulations! | 02:31 |
| bobbyw | I bought it thinking I was going to be able to play mp3's with it, and that would be the coolest thing about it | 02:32 |
| bobbyw | little did I know, it runs linux | 02:32 |
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| bobbyw | does anyone here know how to move around the apps in the "start" menu, I installed like 10 things to extras without thinking | 02:34 |
| bobbyw | now I want to move them and I don't feel like uninstalling and reinstalling 10 apps for that purpose | 02:34 |
| pupnik | yeah | 02:34 |
| pupnik | go to tools - control panel | 02:35 |
| pupnik | then click task navigator, then click "Organize" next to applications | 02:35 |
| bobbyw | I do not see task navigator in control panel | 02:38 |
| bobbyw | that couldn't be a third party app? | 02:39 |
| bobbyw | or maybe I need to update this, I haven't updated any of the software yet | 02:39 |
| bobbyw | hmm | 02:40 |
| bobbyw | I can't be this nub | 02:40 |
| bobbyw | but it's just not there | 02:40 |
| pupnik | mm | 02:42 |
| bobbyw | yeah, I dunno | 02:43 |
| pupnik | you have what - n770 or n800 | 02:43 |
| bobbyw | I'm on an N800 | 02:43 |
| pupnik | sorry i have 770 | 02:43 |
| bobbyw | alright | 02:44 |
| bobbyw | thanks anyway | 02:44 |
| bobbyw | if anyone else knows the answer to this, or how I can chat with VIDEO to others users who do NOT have an n800, I would really appreciate it | 02:45 |
| zerojay | bobby, Tools -> Control Panel -> Navigation. | 02:45 |
| pupnik | `FSettings' undeclared (first use in this function) grr | 02:46 |
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| Blacksitox | hi | 02:47 |
| _Monkey | what's up, Blacksitox | 02:47 |
| bobbyw | thank you | 02:48 |
| bobbyw | very much | 02:48 |
| bobbyw | much easier to navigate now | 02:48 |
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| bobbyw | man, with a bluetooth keyboard and a few weeks of getting used to this thing, I think I could sell my computer | 02:53 |
| bobbyw | the bluetooth keyboard already made it 100x times | 02:53 |
| bobbyw | lksadlkd 100x better | 02:53 |
| bobbyw | except when I type like an idiot | 02:53 |
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| esworp | anyone up for a few minutes of more new-guy stupidity? | 02:56 |
| pupnik | shoot | 02:56 |
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| esworp | well, what are some of the 'must have applications i might wanna look into? | 02:57 |
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| esworp | bah! had a crash | 03:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | Maemo Mapper | 03:01 |
| _Monkey | Maemo Mapper is geographical mapping software specifically designed for the Maemo platform and the Nokia 770/N800 form factor. http://maemo.org/downloads/product/maemo-mapper/ | 03:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | Canola | 03:01 |
| _Monkey | Canola is just even more worthless with shared forlders than the mplayer frontend | 03:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | Haha | 03:01 |
| esworp | got canola, not maemomapper.. | 03:02 |
| esworp | don't really need a map app right you. | 03:02 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Maemo Mapper is fantastic. :) | 03:02 |
| esworp | i've been dicking around with mplayer, trying to find the best encode setup. :] | 03:02 |
| esworp | i'm sure it rocks, but I just dont need it yaknow? | 03:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | 1000-1250Kbps 400x240 @ 20-30fps is what works best for me | 03:03 |
| GeneralAntilles | Xvid | 03:03 |
| esworp | videocenter seems like it'll be cool... Pan gets pretty laggy.. | 03:03 |
| GeneralAntilles | You install Doom? | 03:03 |
| esworp | not yet.. might do that this weekend. | 03:04 |
| GeneralAntilles | Also, FBReader | 03:04 |
| esworp | got that, yah. | 03:04 |
| esworp | i've noticed my version of maemo is a coupla versions old out of the box.. | 03:04 |
| GeneralAntilles | Use AIM/MSN/Yahoo/etc? | 03:05 |
| esworp | what would be the benefits to staying current? | 03:05 |
| GeneralAntilles | What version is it? | 03:05 |
| esworp | i have pidgin cooking for that, and xchat, too. | 03:05 |
| esworp | lemme go look. | 03:05 |
| GeneralAntilles | Pidgin is kinda a pain | 03:05 |
| GeneralAntilles | I'd recommend going with Jabber transports with the built-in Jabber client. | 03:05 |
| esworp | seems better than gaim. | 03:05 |
| esworp | yeah, i need to do that.. i used to use jabber on my palm. | 03:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | The built-in client is nicely integrated. | 03:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | Makes things easy. | 03:06 |
| esworp | the LCARS theme is pretty slick, too. | 03:06 |
| esworp | i could see how it would be better. | 03:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | http://tigert.1g.fi/blog-files/n800-theme/ | 03:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | http://www.mophile.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/plankton_theme.jpg | 03:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | Plankton is what I use | 03:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | Very nice. | 03:06 |
| esworp | i would like to eventually port the old Macos8.5 theme: Graphpaper. | 03:07 |
| GeneralAntilles | Haha | 03:07 |
| GeneralAntilles | Linky? | 03:07 |
| esworp | lemme find something.. I only know of it form my past, eh? | 03:08 |
| GeneralAntilles | Kaleidoscope theme? | 03:08 |
| esworp | nope. | 03:08 |
| esworp | hack out of japan | 03:08 |
| zerojay | Get Sketchy then. | 03:08 |
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| esworp | Sketchy? | 03:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | http://oluc.blogspot.com/2007/03/hildon-sketchy-theme.html | 03:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | Mac user? | 03:09 |
| esworp | yeah! | 03:09 |
| * esworp ducks!! | 03:09 | |
| esworp | hey, sketchy is pretty cool.] | 03:10 |
| GeneralAntilles | http://www.iospirit.com/remotebuddy/ | 03:10 |
| GeneralAntilles | The AJAX remote works rather nicely with the N800 and MicroB | 03:10 |
| flip^ | having just reflashed, can someone remind me where i can find gainroot? | 03:15 |
| pupnik | i think the new quake is funner than doom | 03:16 |
| pupnik | gainroot? | 03:16 |
| _Monkey | somebody said gainroot was a quick howto to become root here http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_EASILY_BecomeRoot and more information is here http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowDoiBecomeRoot | 03:16 |
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| flip^ | heh heh, found it :) | 03:17 |
| esworp | is there any kind of 'tail' type applet for Home? | 03:20 |
| pupnik | like unix tail? | 03:21 |
| esworp | yeah, but on the 'desktop' | 03:22 |
| zerojay | no, but feel free to port it. | 03:22 |
| pupnik | why would you want a gui tail? | 03:23 |
| esworp | it would be more convienient to have it as a persistant applet on a smallish window. | 03:23 |
| pupnik | like tail -f to monitor a running log? | 03:23 |
| esworp | right | 03:23 |
| pupnik | that could be a nice introduction to maemo development for you :) | 03:24 |
| esworp | hehe. | 03:25 |
| esworp | i've not really got any kind of leetness... just basic CLI navigation stuff. | 03:25 |
| pupnik | you can open multiple tabs in xterm though | 03:25 |
| pupnik | keep tail running in one.. | 03:25 |
| flip^ | hmm, what was that thing that ate 100% of my cpu and drained my battery overnight back when i first got my n800... some media crawler thing or something? | 03:26 |
| esworp | rats.. | 03:29 |
| zerojay | That only happens if the user did something stupid, like create a recursive link so that it infinitely loops. | 03:29 |
| * esworp hates fooling with video codecs.. | 03:29 | |
| esworp | bummer there wasn't One to Rule Them All. | 03:29 |
| zerojay | Shittier still, they all are more or less exactly the same anyways. | 03:30 |
| esworp | i work part time on a military base overnight, and mplayer is going to get a workout! | 03:30 |
| esworp | it was worse on my Lifedrive. | 03:31 |
| esworp | i really grew to hate that thing. | 03:31 |
| pupnik | the more you get into video codecs the more you start to see differences | 03:35 |
| pupnik | like uh | 03:35 |
| pupnik | beer, wine and cheese | 03:35 |
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| GeneralAntilles | I hadn't tried Quake 1 yet | 04:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | that's really entirely functional and awesome. | 04:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | Mouselook even works great with the stylus. | 04:01 |
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| bobbyw | 0-0-9yu78opopo; | 04:24 |
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| bobbyw | what's everyone up to on this wonderful friday night? | 04:24 |
| GeneralAntilles | Trying to install MPD on my OS X machine. | 04:27 |
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| pupnik | yeah pipeline just fixed that mouse look in the last update and i'm so impressed | 04:36 |
| pupnik | it's exactly like i hoped it would be | 04:36 |
| pupnik | i'm trying to get the ARM optimized code into FCEU | 04:37 |
| GeneralAntilles | Goodness, if only we had accelerated 3d. :( | 04:38 |
| pupnik | not for a nintendo emu | 04:39 |
| GeneralAntilles | No, for Quake 3. ;) | 04:39 |
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| pupnik | ahaaa | 04:50 |
| GeneralAntilles | Just need an arm port of Tremulous and I'll be good to go. | 04:52 |
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| bobbyw | anyone here know a way to make this bluetooth keyboard easier to use? | 04:56 |
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| bobbyw | well | 05:04 |
| bobbyw | that didn't come out right | 05:04 |
| bobbyw | what I meant to say was | 05:04 |
| bobbyw | I usually navigate my computer with my keyboard | 05:04 |
| bobbyw | shit like alt-tab is gone | 05:04 |
| bobbyw | anyone? | 05:10 |
| bobbyw | everyone is out at the bars, partying, | 05:10 |
| bobbyw | I'm here playing with my new tablet | 05:10 |
| bobbyw | something is wrong here | 05:10 |
| pupnik | what alt-tab | 05:10 |
| bobbyw | switch between applications | 05:10 |
| GeneralAntilles | Control panel -> Hardware Keyboard, Shortcuts tab | 05:10 |
| bobbyw | there you can set alt tab to bring up the menu but it doesn't let you toggle between them with is | 05:12 |
| bobbyw | with it* | 05:12 |
| bobbyw | is that correct? | 05:12 |
| GeneralAntilles | Seems likely | 05:12 |
| GeneralAntilles | Don't have a bluetooth keyboard to test. | 05:12 |
| bobbyw | eh, that's good enough | 05:14 |
| bobbyw | I'll just have to get used to it | 05:14 |
| bobbyw | I can't get used to pressing something besides alt-tab though, I've been doing that for years | 05:15 |
| bobbyw | hmmm, now just plain tab works | 05:15 |
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| procto | :se noai | 05:27 |
| procto | a:se ai | 05:27 |
| bobbyw | anyone know how I can get aim transport running on an n800 | 05:27 |
| zerojay | Use Jabber. | 05:27 |
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| bobbyw | how do I get aim contacts on my jabber buddy list | 05:28 |
| zerojay | You'll have to use a PC to add the AIM gateway. | 05:29 |
| bobbyw | actually, I don't even have a jabber account. Just gmail, will that work? | 05:29 |
| bobbyw | I've got a pc in front of me | 05:29 |
| zerojay | Gmail doesn't have the transports for that. | 05:29 |
| bobbyw | I searched good for aim transport | 05:29 |
| zerojay | You'll have to find and setup a jabber account at a jabber server with the AIM transport. | 05:30 |
| zerojay | It's worth it. | 05:30 |
| zerojay | Much better than using Pidgin. | 05:30 |
| GeneralAntilles | ^ very true | 05:31 |
| zerojay | Well, with RTCOMM beta anyways. | 05:31 |
| zerojay | No needing to run a separate program or anything.. it just works. | 05:31 |
| bobbyw | hmm | 05:31 |
| bobbyw | sounds nice | 05:31 |
| bobbyw | can someone tell me what server they use? | 05:31 |
| bobbyw | before I hop on one that sucks | 05:31 |
| zerojay | I would, but I run my own. | 05:31 |
| bobbyw | I tried using gizmo, but that shows all my contacts as offline | 05:31 |
| zerojay | Gizmo uses Jabber as well. | 05:32 |
| GeneralAntilles | zerojay, you use the speed contacts applet? | 05:32 |
| bobbyw | so gizmo's transports are down? | 05:32 |
| GeneralAntilles | I can't seem to make it not display avatars with rtcomm. | 05:32 |
| zerojay | GeneralAntilles: Yes. | 05:32 |
| zerojay | GeneralAntilles: Works fine for me. | 05:32 |
| bobbyw | gizmo aim transport | 05:33 |
| bobbyw | errr | 05:33 |
| bobbyw | wrong keyboard | 05:33 |
| bobbyw | lolsne | 05:33 |
| bobbyw | lolsend | 05:33 |
| zerojay | Perhaps the version of the transport on your server doesn't support avatars. | 05:33 |
| GeneralAntilles | Huh | 05:33 |
| GeneralAntilles | I don't want the avatars | 05:33 |
| GeneralAntilles | It makes the applet useless | 05:33 |
| zerojay | Ooh. | 05:33 |
| GeneralAntilles | I can only fit about 4 people in there | 05:33 |
| GeneralAntilles | as opposed to a dozen or so | 05:33 |
| zerojay | Well, that's the reason why it's speed contacts. | 05:34 |
| zerojay | If you need more, just use Contacts. | 05:34 |
| GeneralAntilles | Psh | 05:34 |
| zerojay | Allowing it to scroll the whole list would be nice though. | 05:34 |
| GeneralAntilles | I just want it to work the way it had always worked since before rtcomm | 05:35 |
| GeneralAntilles | Avatars are pointless and stupid when you're trying to save space. | 05:35 |
| GeneralAntilles | 12 is almost exactly the number of people on my buddy list that I want to contact "speedily". | 05:35 |
| GeneralAntilles | Not 4 | 05:35 |
| zerojay | I just put the people I talk to most in there. | 05:36 |
| zerojay | Good enough for me... and looks so much nicer with the avatars. | 05:36 |
| zerojay | The option would be nice though. | 05:36 |
| zerojay | File a bug. | 05:37 |
| bobbyw | I have 5 friends, but two of them are made of duct tape | 05:37 |
| GeneralAntilles | Boxy Brown? http://is1.okcupid.com/users/624/422/6254236457383917365/mt1124122368.jpg | 05:37 |
| bobbyw | Guys, i'm having a hell of a time getting my sony ericsson phone to give gprs to my n800 | 05:38 |
| zerojay | bobbyw: Out of curiousity, which SE phone do you have? | 05:39 |
| bobbyw | I don't think gaim lets me click links... | 05:39 |
| bobbyw | K700i | 05:39 |
| zerojay | Not a bad phone. | 05:39 |
| zerojay | I've got some bugs open on it still, unfortunately. | 05:39 |
| bobbyw | It's not bad. Would be better if i could use gprs | 05:40 |
| bobbyw | Someone posted on a comment in a blog how to fix it but their writing was horrible | 05:41 |
| zerojay | I'd like it more if the Chinese version of the phone wouldn't misinterpret one of our dialog boxes and start printing out solid black blocks instead. | 05:41 |
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| bobbyw | hmmmm, some guy said it worked instantly with his k700i | 05:49 |
| bobbyw | I wonder if there is an internet setting I need to change | 05:50 |
| GeneralAntilles | Out of interest, any words for the Samsung SCH-A717? | 05:52 |
| zerojay | I think we just did some builds for it. | 05:55 |
| zerojay | Within the last two weeks. | 05:55 |
| zerojay | I don't remember there being any major issues. | 05:55 |
| zerojay | I believe it's a prerelease... or maybe it's available now. | 05:56 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Hopefully it's available now. | 05:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | as it's sitting on my desk. ;) | 05:57 |
| zerojay | Okay.. well, it must be pretty newly released then. | 05:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | May or June I think | 05:57 |
| zerojay | I might be getting confused then.. or maybe Cingular is just slow as shit rolling out new phones. | 05:58 |
| zerojay | Our testers were getting annoyed trying to play our games on the Sony Ericsson P1. | 05:59 |
| zerojay | It's one of those smart phone deals with multiple characters on each key. | 05:59 |
| zerojay | And we use the number pad exclusively. | 05:59 |
| zerojay | So for every choice they made, they had to press the ALT key first and then the number. | 06:00 |
| zerojay | Ugh. | 06:00 |
| GeneralAntilles | Haha | 06:00 |
| GeneralAntilles | That's awesome | 06:00 |
| zerojay | We're just going to let them press the same key but without ALT.. we'll just change the keymap to accept the letters on the keys instead of the numbers. | 06:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | I guess there's no way to set the mode to numbers only? | 06:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | Or change the keyma | 06:01 |
| _Monkey | GeneralAntilles: that doesn't look right | 06:01 |
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| GeneralAntilles | erm, yeah. | 06:01 |
| zerojay | That's what they said. | 06:01 |
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| zerojay | The problem is that the phone is in Romania. | 06:01 |
| zerojay | So I can't get the keymap directly. | 06:01 |
| zerojay | I have to attempt to explain to the Romanian testers how to get the keymap from our debug mode in the game. | 06:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | Language barrier much? | 06:02 |
| zerojay | I know it doesn't sound like a hard task, but these are the guys that send me doctored up emulator images and call them "screenshots". | 06:02 |
| zerojay | Most of them know english at least a little. The problem is that they just aren't very good workers. | 06:03 |
| zerojay | If you're a bug tester, you need to be very, very specific. | 06:03 |
| zerojay | And precise. | 06:03 |
| GeneralAntilles | Too much communism over there. | 06:03 |
| zerojay | I get bugs like... "Occurs: character says wrong thing Should occur: character says right thing." | 06:04 |
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| zerojay | Well what the fuck is the wrong and right thing?!? | 06:04 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Hahaha | 06:04 |
| GeneralAntilles | -1, Obvious | 06:04 |
| zerojay | It also doesn't help that they're something like 8 hours ahead of us, so whenever they don't understand and fuck up... well, we gotta send an e-mail and hope that when we come in tomorrow, they understood. | 06:05 |
| zerojay | When you have a week with a prerelease phone... well, you don't have many days to waste on that. | 06:05 |
| zerojay | I feel bad complaining about them because they are all genuinely good people that really want to help. | 06:06 |
| zerojay | They just aren't any good at it. | 06:06 |
| bobbyw | hmmm | 06:07 |
| bobbyw | I'm confused | 06:07 |
| bobbyw | when I use gprs from t-mobile | 06:07 |
| bobbyw | should I be paying 35 dollars a month or 6 | 06:07 |
| bobbyw | to get the internet to my n | 06:07 |
| bobbyw | n800 | 06:07 |
| zerojay | When it comes to data, round up, Bobby. | 06:07 |
| zerojay | Especially if you are in Canada. | 06:08 |
| zerojay | $100 for 100MB... pffffffft. | 06:08 |
| bobbyw | wow | 06:11 |
| bobbyw | alright, nevermind | 06:11 |
| bobbyw | I thought my phone would pull the pages like usual | 06:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | AT&T = 20$/mo for "Unlimited" | 06:12 |
| bobbyw | since I can pull any webpage/file through my phone for free | 06:12 |
| bobbyw | there I go thinking | 06:19 |
| bobbyw | should I buy an sdhc card or non sdhc for my n800? | 06:23 |
| bobbyw | I read somewhere they were developing support for sdhc | 06:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | SDHC | 06:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | If you're at the latest firmware you're good to go. | 06:23 |
| bobbyw | how do I update my firmware | 06:23 |
| bobbyw | I haven't seen an option for that anywhere | 06:23 |
| bobbyw | I mean, I just bought this thing yesterday | 06:25 |
| GeneralAntilles | http://www.nokiausa.com/A4410958 | 06:25 |
| bobbyw | so it's brand new, does that nessicarily mean I have the newest firmware? | 06:25 |
| GeneralAntilles | You probably have 26-8 | 06:25 |
| bobbyw | egh, everyone keeps giving me links in gaim, I can't figure out how to open them! | 06:25 |
| GeneralAntilles | which doesn't have the SDHC patch | 06:25 |
| bobbyw | lemme type that into my desktop | 06:25 |
| GeneralAntilles | Haha | 06:25 |
| bobbyw | if I do this update, I'm going to lose all my settings? | 06:34 |
| bobbyw | and programs? | 06:34 |
| bobbyw | it says use the backup-restore utility, that will save EVERYTHING? | 06:34 |
| bobbyw | hmm | 06:34 |
| [31d1] | how is babby formed? | 06:35 |
| bobbyw | how girl get pregnant? | 06:35 |
| GeneralAntilles | Backup restore will keep the repos and most of your system and application settings | 06:39 |
| GeneralAntilles | You'll have to reinstall the applications themselves, though. | 06:39 |
| bobbyw | alright | 06:40 |
| bobbyw | might as well get it done | 06:40 |
| GeneralAntilles | Firmware updates are supposedly going to get easier in the future | 06:41 |
| GeneralAntilles | I've been wiping and updating various IT devices since 2005, it gets tiresome after a while. <_< | 06:42 |
| bobbyw | I guess I'm going to take the plunge. See you in six hours when I'm back operational | 06:43 |
| bobbyw | ...is SDHC the only feature I'm getting out of this? | 06:43 |
| GeneralAntilles | There's are a couple other updates | 06:43 |
| GeneralAntilles | but SDHC is the major thing | 06:43 |
| GeneralAntilles | The other option is to run the risk of burned out SDHC cards, though. | 06:43 |
| GeneralAntilles | So it's worth it. ;) | 06:43 |
| GeneralAntilles | Also, setup xchat on the PC if you have any trouble. | 06:43 |
| bobbyw | burned out sdhc? | 06:46 |
| bobbyw | eh, whatevs. time to delete everything I've done in the past 2 days | 06:48 |
| bobbyw | one more question | 06:49 |
| bobbyw | are the classes in sdhc cards better or worse higher or lower | 06:49 |
| bobbyw | eh. gotta go | 06:49 |
| bobbyw | thx | 06:49 |
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| pupnik | man infones is beautiful | 07:26 |
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| hieppo | hello | 07:35 |
| hieppo | anyone in the house | 07:35 |
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| bobbywaz | alright, after a firmware upgrade and a long time of reconfigure/reinstalling, I'm back | 08:18 |
| bobbywaz | this time, with xchat | 08:18 |
| bobbywaz | a big thank you to the dude that helped me out | 08:19 |
| GeneralAntilles | Sure thing. :) | 08:20 |
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| zoran | someone knows the channel to contact administrator of nickserv? | 08:34 |
| GeneralAntilles | #freenode? | 08:36 |
| zoran | yep, found that | 08:36 |
| GeneralAntilles | or /stats p | 08:36 |
| zoran | :) | 08:36 |
| GeneralAntilles | To find a staffer | 08:36 |
| zerojay | Check the MOTD. | 08:36 |
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| zoran | huh, somebody else owns my nick | 08:38 |
| zoran | talking to admin now | 08:38 |
| zoran | hm, could be interesing to know what I got as an answer for my question on #freenode | 08:46 |
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| zoran | Airs | 09:01 |
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| pupnik | ? | 09:07 |
| zoran | uh, typo | 09:08 |
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| sciboy | Any progress zoran? | 09:27 |
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| zoran | ah, folks sait I should wait, since the nick is "private" | 09:30 |
| zoran | *said | 09:30 |
| zoran | like Joseph K in "process" | 09:31 |
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| sciboy | Okey dokey, so is there an N800 emulator somewhere? | 09:37 |
| sciboy | I know that for development under a linux platform it isn't quite as useful, but I want to play around before my real one gets here. =P | 09:38 |
| zoran | I've heard of linux arm bin player, just what you want | 09:39 |
| zoran | is should be the part of sdk | 09:40 |
| zoran | uh, cannot find the name | 09:41 |
| zoran | xephyr. probably | 09:42 |
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| zoran | sciboy, it is really xephyr | 09:55 |
| sciboy | Cheers | 10:01 |
| zoran | k | 10:01 |
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| * zoran goes to see if dragons still have the fire | 10:15 | |
| sciboy | Is bora the current release? | 10:16 |
| zoran | ah, 3.2, I think | 10:17 |
| zoran | bora is probably 3.0 | 10:17 |
| zoran | but, I don't have n800 | 10:17 |
| sciboy | Project: maemo 3.2 Bora SDK | 10:17 |
| sciboy | Version: 3.2 | 10:17 |
| sciboy | Baseline: Internet Tablet OS 2007 Edition 4.2007.26-8 | 10:17 |
| sciboy | Date: 2007-07-05 | 10:17 |
| _Monkey | 1995 | 10:17 |
| zoran | cool | 10:17 |
| zoran | yes | 10:17 |
| zoran | yes, as I know | 10:17 |
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| * czr mornings | 10:20 | |
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| sciboy | Darn, too much of a pain under AMD64. | 10:25 |
| czr | it is so heavy? | 10:25 |
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| zodttd | hi pupnik | 11:16 |
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| sciboy | Oh hi zodttd. | 11:19 |
| zodttd | hi | 11:19 |
| sciboy | Know you from GP2X. =) | 11:20 |
| czr | hey zodttd, got yours yet? | 11:20 |
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| zottd | back | 11:21 |
| sciboy | Hehe. | 11:21 |
| sciboy | Anyway, thanks for all the great stuff you did on the GP2X. | 11:22 |
| zottd | np :) | 11:24 |
| zottd | sciboy is your username at gp32x? | 11:24 |
| sciboy | Yeah, don't expect to see much there though I was a consumer. | 11:25 |
| zottd | heh :P | 11:25 |
| sciboy | I'm an artist/animator not a programmer, luckily the N800 should be much easier for me to give scripting a shot. | 11:26 |
| zottd | Thanks either way though. :) | 11:26 |
| zottd | Im thinking of getting a N800 too | 11:26 |
| zottd | some good deals lately | 11:26 |
| sciboy | Mine's still on order. =) | 11:26 |
| sciboy | I jumped on it as soon as it became available in my area. | 11:27 |
| sciboy | Anything in particular about it that you want to do? | 11:28 |
| sciboy | I'll be using mine for reference while I work, although the fact it's got a debian derivative means I'll be getting tons more out of it. | 11:30 |
| zottd | I wanted to try gpSP if nobody has yet | 11:31 |
| zottd | Then depending, psx4all | 11:31 |
| sciboy | I'm curious how that would perform compared to the GP2X. | 11:32 |
| zottd | me too actually | 11:32 |
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| sciboy | zottd, You taken a look at the SDK with scratchbox? | 11:33 |
| zottd | nope | 11:34 |
| zottd | scratchbox? | 11:34 |
| _Monkey | hmmm... scratchbox is a cross-compilation toolkit for maemo application development. Homepage: http://www.scratchbox.org/ Maemo 3.x (bora/N800) tutorial: http://qurl.org/yN Maemo 2.2 (gregale/770) tutorial: http://qurl.org/zN A walkthrough for 3.x: http://qurl.org/0O Scratchbox Downloads: http://qurl.org/1O | 11:34 |
| zottd | :) | 11:34 |
| sciboy | Once set up with Xephyr it should let you play with the maemo environment without an actual n800 | 11:35 |
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| sciboy | I haven't tried it, but the install looks simple enough under ia32 | 11:39 |
| czr | the sdk is mainly useful for building sw | 11:39 |
| czr | the lower level stuff you do, the more un-useful it becomes. | 11:39 |
| sciboy | It's a starting point. | 11:39 |
| czr | sure. and you still need to build your software in order to run on the device. | 11:40 |
| czr | zottd, there are also vmware images that contains already setup sbox+sdk. | 11:40 |
| zottd | cool, I think I will have the setup ready to go easy enough | 11:46 |
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| zottd | But I'm not really well fit to be splurging money | 11:47 |
| sciboy | Yeah don't be in a hurry to do that. | 11:47 |
| zottd | Normally I get hardware donated, or money from the community for my ports to pay for the hardware. It doesnt look like that will happen with this project. :P | 11:48 |
| czr | zottd, there was a developer discount when n800 launched. with emphasis on people who worked on some stuff for the 770 | 11:52 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:56 |
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| czr | morn Jaffa | 12:00 |
| sciboy | zottd, http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4573 | 12:00 |
| sciboy | There's also this thread, maybe you could do some *cough* hinting, http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8002 | 12:02 |
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| zottd | back, sorry. :P | 12:05 |
| sciboy | No worries. =) | 12:07 |
| czr | uhm. anyone know what's up with dbus-send when sending string:'hello world'? it seems to split the ' ' into separate arguments | 12:09 |
| sciboy | "? | 12:09 |
| czr | nope. | 12:09 |
| czr | doing proper quoting. | 12:10 |
| czr | I'm thinking that the argument passing in run-standalone.sh is broken | 12:10 |
| sciboy | \? | 12:10 |
| czr | sciboy, you have SDK running? | 12:10 |
| sciboy | Nope, I'll be sticking to python and web development. | 12:10 |
| suihkulokki | well it's a shell script, so argument-with-space passing is broken by principle | 12:10 |
| czr | suihkulokki, it wouldn't have to be. there are ways to do it properly. | 12:11 |
| czr | but any hints on it :-) | 12:11 |
| czr | run-standalone.sh dbus-send --print-reply --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.statusbar /com/nokia/statusbar com.nokia.statusbar.system_note_dialog string:Hello\ world int32:2 | 12:11 |
| czr | nothing complicated as you can see. | 12:11 |
| sciboy | string:'Hello\ world' | 12:11 |
| czr | sciboy, no | 12:11 |
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| czr | meh. run-standalone uses $* to launch the program | 12:13 |
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| czr | fixed. | 12:19 |
| czr | suihkulokki, FYI, if it's broken in _a_ script doesn't make it broken by principle (when done correctly). | 12:19 |
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| czr | suihkulokki, https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2114 for the fix. | 12:31 |
| suihkulokki | rite | 12:33 |
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| czr | granted, with 4 different ways of doing it, no wonder it gets sometimes done incorrectly :-) | 12:34 |
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| sciboy | I'm really looking forward to getting my N800 and joining this community. | 13:37 |
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| amr | anyone here any experience with using thememaker? | 13:59 |
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| amr | great, i think ive got the whitescreen | 14:11 |
| amr | restarted it after changing a canola | 14:11 |
| amr | starts up completely white | 14:11 |
| amr | now ive got a white bar on the left going up | 14:11 |
| amr | and the rest is a grey colour | 14:11 |
| amr | with other random lines going up | 14:11 |
| amr | if i press buttons on the left | 14:14 |
| amr | it looks like it responds and opens the menu | 14:14 |
| amr | just its garbled | 14:14 |
| GeneralAntilles | You try putting in a corrupted theme? | 14:20 |
| amr | no | 14:20 |
| amr | http://farm1.static.flickr.com/149/362764796_7772900717.jpg | 14:20 |
| amr | its similar to that | 14:20 |
| GeneralAntilles | I think that's hardware | 14:21 |
| sciboy | Uh oh, that isn't good. | 14:21 |
| amr | great | 14:21 |
| amr | is it fixable or is it a return job | 14:21 |
| GeneralAntilles | I think it's return. I'm not really familiar with the issue, though. | 14:22 |
| sciboy | If it is the WSOD then it's a return job from what I've read. | 14:22 |
| sciboy | Much feared. | 14:22 |
| amr | yeah, i thought things were going too well for once | 14:23 |
| amr | :| | 14:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | How old is it? | 14:23 |
| amr | store where i got it is closed | 14:23 |
| amr | urm, 2 months? | 14:23 |
| amr | maybe 3 | 14:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | Have to send it to Nokia | 14:23 |
| amr | oh christ | 14:24 |
| GeneralAntilles | Maybe see it back by Christmas. >_> | 14:24 |
| amr | well, ill send it to who i bought it from | 14:24 |
| amr | what even causes it | 14:27 |
| sciboy | Can't remember what it was, | 14:29 |
| sciboy | "WSOD is caused by a failure in the LCD controller chip that breaks the screen" | 14:29 |
| sciboy | Google brought that up. | 14:29 |
| amr | haha fantastic | 14:29 |
| GeneralAntilles | Don't recall exactly what was causing them to fail. | 14:29 |
| pupnik | oh i am a dunceboy | 14:29 |
| pupnik | even if i have target as /media/mmc1, a game data .deb package needs to download to rootfs | 14:30 |
| pupnik | so .debs are fundamentally wrong for game data | 14:30 |
| sciboy | Ouch | 14:30 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Any way to have the deb for the game engine to run an installer application to put the data where it needs to be then remove itself? | 14:31 |
| pupnik | i don't see how | 14:32 |
| sciboy | Look at the msttcorefonts package in debian. | 14:33 |
| GeneralAntilles | pupnik: Guess it's time to build a game installer, then. ;) | 14:34 |
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| pupnik | good advice sciboy | 14:35 |
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| amr | im gutted | 14:36 |
| amr | i used my tablet daily :( | 14:36 |
| sciboy | Real bummer. | 14:36 |
| GeneralAntilles | Time to plot down for one of those tasty new N800s. ;) | 14:37 |
| GeneralAntilles | *erm, plop | 14:37 |
| pupnik | the msttcorefonts installs a bash script, then uses a postinst script to run it. the script then gets the fonts from a set of known repository urls | 14:38 |
| sciboy | plop and tasty in the same sentence, nice mental image. | 14:38 |
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| sciboy | pupnik, How does it handle removal though? | 14:39 |
| amr | now, do i wait for the new tablets or get an n800 :P | 14:39 |
| sciboy | It's important that users have that option. | 14:39 |
| pupnik | it uses debian/prerm which does a rm -r on the dirs | 14:39 |
| GeneralAntilles | Well, if you spend ~230 now, will you have ~400 available around January? | 14:39 |
| sciboy | amr, The N800 has the features I want and will be supported officially for quite a while, I went for it. | 14:39 |
| amr | oh, i may go for it then | 14:40 |
| doublec | the n800 is well worth getting | 14:40 |
| amr | no wsod issues are there :P | 14:40 |
| GeneralAntilles | I can attest to the fact that the N800 is a very worthwhile upgrade over the 770. | 14:40 |
| GeneralAntilles | Speed and responsiveness are lightyears ahead. | 14:40 |
| pupnik | btw i got a new nes emulator running, but erm... it's not fast enough on 770 | 14:41 |
| pupnik | if any n800 users want to try it i can share | 14:41 |
| amr | lol | 14:42 |
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| sciboy | pupnik, Speaking of emulation, zodttd is around. | 14:43 |
| pupnik | yeah we talk :) | 14:43 |
| pupnik | lol | 14:44 |
| sciboy | =P I'm just a hopeless fanboy. | 14:45 |
| pupnik | you want to work on gpfe sciboy? | 14:45 |
| pupnik | more or less just needs a reworked main.c | 14:46 |
| sciboy | I only go as far as Python, sorry. =) | 14:46 |
| pupnik | do you have n800? | 14:47 |
| sciboy | Not yet, ordered and waiting. =) | 14:47 |
| sciboy | I'll be doing little apps and games but I'm not a programmer so anything real is beyond me. | 14:49 |
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| pupnik | xlthanks for the maemo.org documentatino reorg | 15:09 |
| dockane | got my n800 today, together with two hcsd cards (8gb).. works flawlessly. amazing device. | 15:23 |
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| GeneralAntilles | 'grats, dockane, no just install Quake and get to encoding some video for it. ;) | 15:26 |
| GeneralAntilles | *now | 15:26 |
| pupnik | did you try some of the mods GeneralAntilles ? | 15:26 |
| GeneralAntilles | Not yet. | 15:27 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Looks at the topic and nothing in there was all that interesting. | 15:27 |
| GeneralAntilles | Looked* | 15:29 |
| * dockane prefers the usb networking howto | 15:31 | |
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| pupnik | http://pupnik.de/\InfoNES_0.01_armel.tgz | 15:43 |
| pupnik | -\ | 15:43 |
| flip^ | InfoNES ? | 15:48 |
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| pupnik | InfoNES is a NES emulator from japan | 15:49 |
| * gla55 made a crude symbian port once | 15:49 | |
| pupnik | i also have a tweak to fceu that i'd like a n800 user to test | 15:50 |
| pupnik | nice | 15:51 |
| pupnik | gla55: do you want to port littlejohn ? :) :) | 15:51 |
| pupnik | anyway let me know how bad infones stutters on n800 | 15:52 |
| pupnik | and i'll put a fceu binary up if you want to test that | 15:52 |
| pupnik | bbl | 15:52 |
| gla55 | pupnik: i don't have time for hobby things in a while :< | 15:53 |
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| sciboy | dockane, Can't wait to get mine, should be a week or two. | 16:05 |
| sciboy | What's your favourite way to type? I'll be doing quite a bit but I'm not getting a bluetooth keyboard for it. | 16:07 |
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| dockane | what is binary of the editor application called coming with the n800? | 16:32 |
| dockane | osso-notes? | 16:32 |
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| playya | maybe maemo pad | 16:36 |
| dockane | i would like to use it to edit files in /etc | 16:36 |
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| dockane | "ps aux" says its osso_notes | 16:40 |
| dockane | arg.. osso_notes does not take any parameter :( | 16:42 |
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| dockane | and yes: i do not like vi | 17:01 |
| * Jaffa yawns | 17:02 | |
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| GeneralAntilles | apt-get install nano, dockane | 17:08 |
| playya | vi is great | 17:10 |
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| flip^ | what's the name of that nice little app that sits at the top, reporting cpu/memory/clock and when touched gives a little dropdown that works as an app launcher... | 18:16 |
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| Blacksitox | hi | 18:31 |
| _Monkey | bonjour, Blacksitox | 18:31 |
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| IsoTeemu | Hi, Im trying to get n800 work with wrt-350n, but without success. Any ideas? | 18:35 |
| zoran | more data? | 18:36 |
| zoran | 350n could be new linksys? | 18:37 |
| IsoTeemu | yeah | 18:37 |
| IsoTeemu | It doesn't see SSID, nor connect manually | 18:37 |
| IsoTeemu | everything else works, from laptops to Nintendo DS | 18:37 |
| zoran | k, you hide ssid? | 18:37 |
| IsoTeemu | no | 18:38 |
| IsoTeemu | not that stupid | 18:38 |
| zoran | it is a good approach | 18:38 |
| zoran | just a sec | 18:38 |
| zoran | k, let's try again | 18:39 |
| zoran | what is the protocol? | 18:39 |
| IsoTeemu | N, but it works backwards compatible | 18:40 |
| IsoTeemu | DS, witch works with B, works | 18:40 |
| IsoTeemu | and powerbooks, witch uses G, works too flawless | 18:40 |
| zoran | k, take g as your protocol | 18:41 |
| zoran | on my 54gl I chose just g | 18:41 |
| zoran | what encryption | 18:41 |
| IsoTeemu | It doesn't allow it to be changed. | 18:41 |
| IsoTeemu | mixed (b,g,n) or disabled | 18:41 |
| zoran | hm ,mast be | 18:42 |
| zoran | *must | 18:42 |
| zoran | some arrow down with options b, g, bg, something only... | 18:42 |
| IsoTeemu | and currently without encryption, but I have tested with everything | 18:42 |
| zoran | it works fine as wpa2 aes | 18:42 |
| zoran | I have it and works fine with laptop and 770 | 18:43 |
| pupnik | osso-statusbar-cpu? | 18:43 |
| _Monkey | osso-statusbar-cpu is at http://www.maemo-hackers.org/wiki/OssoStatusbarCpu | 18:43 |
| pupnik | cpu-load-applet? | 18:43 |
| IsoTeemu | I would assume too that it would allow me to change protocol, but it dont | 18:43 |
| zoran | I just cannot believe | 18:43 |
| zoran | lemme find the manual | 18:44 |
| IsoTeemu | my cisco-sertified friend tried to get n800 to work with it, but gave up after he even got his N-series phone to work | 18:44 |
| zoran | how did you turn off encryption? | 18:45 |
| zoran | the same way, arrow let you choose the protocol | 18:45 |
| czr | runs with CCMP here fine (although the device shows WPA, but..) | 18:45 |
| IsoTeemu | wireless security -> security mode: disabled | 18:45 |
| czr | (different AP though) | 18:45 |
| zoran | k, have a screen about b,g, or similar? | 18:45 |
| IsoTeemu | no | 18:46 |
| zoran | must to | 18:46 |
| IsoTeemu | Network Mode: mixed or disabled | 18:46 |
| zoran | ah! | 18:46 |
| IsoTeemu | "If you have Wireless-N, Wireless-G and 802.11b devices in your network, then keep the default setting, Mixed. If you want to disable wireless networking, select Disabled." | 18:46 |
| czr | "Network mode: disabled". how logical is that :-) | 18:46 |
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| zoran | k, IsoTeemu, I do believe you | 18:47 |
| zoran | just cannot believe linksys | 18:47 |
| IsoTeemu | and n800 gets really confused about neighborhood networks when 350 is powered | 18:47 |
| zoran | could you changethe channel? | 18:47 |
| IsoTeemu | i can, but it didn't help | 18:47 |
| zoran | looking for pdf manual | 18:48 |
| zoran | he-he, no 350n on linksys site | 18:48 |
| zoran | uh, javascript | 18:50 |
| zoran | those guys are unbelievable | 18:50 |
| IsoTeemu | hmm, when I rebooted 350, n800 did find it for a sec | 18:50 |
| zoran | probably no linux version? | 18:50 |
| IsoTeemu | it is | 18:50 |
| IsoTeemu | or older (US) versions were | 18:51 |
| zoran | works now? | 18:51 |
| IsoTeemu | no, after it was booted it was lost | 18:51 |
| zoran | how big is manual pdf? | 18:51 |
| IsoTeemu | dont know | 18:52 |
| zoran | have a cd? | 18:52 |
| IsoTeemu | _had_ | 18:52 |
| zoran | :) | 18:52 |
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| zoran | k, I stoped to downlaod it | 18:52 |
| zoran | they even don't give a file size | 18:53 |
| IsoTeemu | but it was pretty much useless | 18:53 |
| zoran | with my 770 I done it in a sec | 18:54 |
| zoran | opened new conn from general screen | 18:55 |
| zoran | u know, memory, apps, sound ... | 18:55 |
| IsoTeemu | yeah yeah | 18:55 |
| zoran | it is something like conn manager or else | 18:55 |
| zoran | then new conn | 18:55 |
| IsoTeemu | this is only wifi it (n800) has failed to connect | 18:56 |
| zoran | k, try again | 18:56 |
| zoran | new conn | 18:56 |
| zoran | then choose what is has | 18:56 |
| zoran | encrypted, I think | 18:56 |
| IsoTeemu | sec, i need to reboot 350 | 18:57 |
| zoran | I had option as I hide ssid | 18:57 |
| zoran | t ocould remove it | 18:57 |
| zoran | You* | 18:57 |
| zoran | news? | 19:00 |
| IsoTeemu | "network connection error" | 19:01 |
| zoran | could you find b or g option elsewhere? | 19:02 |
| IsoTeemu | no, there is't | 19:02 |
| zoran | it is good you tell about this router | 19:02 |
| zoran | I had some distant idea to have it | 19:03 |
| IsoTeemu | I'll put my 0.2€ for problem being in n800 | 19:04 |
| zoran | don;t give up so fast | 19:05 |
| zoran | could you connect _any_ ap? | 19:05 |
| zoran | friends or neighbor's? | 19:06 |
| IsoTeemu | I can | 19:06 |
| IsoTeemu | and I have | 19:06 |
| zoran | let's that be the first step :) | 19:06 |
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| pauliukas | Any way of playing Windows Media streaming audio? | 19:07 |
| IsoTeemu | it connected! | 19:07 |
| zoran | \o/ | 19:07 |
| IsoTeemu | but it's still totally confused about networks | 19:07 |
| zoran | do you see it on 350n? | 19:07 |
| zoran | have you let it connect to 350n???? | 19:08 |
| zoran | mac address? | 19:08 |
| IsoTeemu | 00:19:4F:9E:A8:83 | 19:08 |
| zoran | no, add it to your "let in" spool | 19:09 |
| IsoTeemu | it connected and net worked | 19:09 |
| zoran | I chose to filter addresses and had to add laptop and 770 | 19:09 |
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| IsoTeemu | I'll test if it can do it again | 19:09 |
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| zoran | change the channel to 1, 11 or 6 | 19:10 |
| _Monkey | zoran: that doesn't look right | 19:10 |
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| IsoTeemu | it works, after putting SSID hidden | 19:10 |
| zoran | \o/ | 19:10 |
| IsoTeemu | strange... | 19:10 |
| zoran | you hide ssid! | 19:11 |
| IsoTeemu | shame, now I cant annoy my neighbours with it | 19:13 |
| zoran | you could set music loud | 19:14 |
| IsoTeemu | too obvious. Only young person in whole building | 19:14 |
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| IsoTeemu | well, life would be boring if everything would be perfect | 19:16 |
| IsoTeemu | thaks, zoran | 19:16 |
| zoran | :) | 19:16 |
| zoran | if no probs, no fun | 19:16 |
| zoran | ah, thereis dd-wrt for 350n! | 19:26 |
| pupnik | my wlan doesn't even make it from one end of the house to the other | 19:28 |
| zoran | what router? | 19:28 |
| _Monkey | router is at .1 | 19:28 |
| zoran | I liek _Monkey | 19:29 |
| zoran | hm? | 19:29 |
| pupnik | it the german government's restriction of AP's to 100mw | 19:29 |
| zoran | what is a distance you could have? | 19:30 |
| pupnik | so even a small business i worked for couldn't cover their building with one ap | 19:30 |
| zoran | in meters? | 19:30 |
| pupnik | brick/concrete walls are hard to penetrate | 19:30 |
| pupnik | i get about 10-15 meters through these walls | 19:31 |
| pupnik | more like 10 | 19:31 |
| zoran | what dist you need? | 19:31 |
| pupnik | no need. it's just annoying | 19:31 |
| zoran | :) | 19:32 |
| zoran | linksys? | 19:32 |
| pupnik | it's a netgear 108mb/s something or other | 19:32 |
| zoran | I had issue with asus wifi card on my freebsd laptop | 19:32 |
| zoran | after changing it to atheros based one, all probs have left | 19:33 |
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| zoran | and this wrt54gl works like a charm | 19:33 |
| zoran | some netgear stuff is said to be strange | 19:33 |
| zoran | not for all | 19:34 |
| zoran | just for posters | 19:34 |
| zoran | k, fabric firmware could be tuned to follow local rules | 19:35 |
| zoran | there are linux based that make it reachable from 2-3 fold distance | 19:36 |
| pupnik | yes | 19:36 |
| zoran | if I recall, those version let user change the signal strenght | 19:37 |
| zoran | changing the channel is one of things user should do | 19:37 |
| zoran | it is better to be on 1, 6 and 11 | 19:38 |
| zoran | the signal is stronger there | 19:38 |
| zoran | wgt624? | 19:40 |
| pupnik | interesting, i'll experiment with channels | 19:41 |
| zoran | the channels intersept, except on those locations | 19:41 |
| zoran | in europe | 19:41 |
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| pauliukas | How can I stream Windows Media audio on my 770? | 19:44 |
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| pupnik | perhaps with uPnP | 19:47 |
| pauliukas | there's no vlc or something for the 770? | 19:48 |
| pupnik | mplayer can play streams, i'm sure many other media players can | 19:48 |
| pupnik | canola, ukmp, kagu | 19:48 |
| pupnik | and the buildin audio player | 19:49 |
| pauliukas | built-in can only play MP3 streams | 19:49 |
| pauliukas | not windows media | 19:49 |
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| zoran | good! | 19:50 |
| Andy80 | hi | 19:50 |
| _Monkey | que tal, Andy80 | 19:50 |
| pupnik | i don't do windows. good luck | 19:50 |
| Andy80 | anyone of you remember the URL of that project to speed up the mmc on n770? | 19:50 |
| pupnik | search fanoush mmcplus | 19:50 |
| pupnik | or 52mhz | 19:51 |
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| Andy80 | found: http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/ | 19:53 |
| Andy80 | :) | 19:53 |
| Andy80 | anyone of you has tested that patch? | 19:53 |
| zoran | fanoush did :) | 19:55 |
| * zoran goes to see if dragons still have the fire | 19:58 | |
| Andy80 | no... I mean: is anyone of you using it? | 19:58 |
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| pupnik | not atm - i am testing with low performance to get a baseline | 20:02 |
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| pupnik | i have heard it's many tiems faster | 20:03 |
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| bobbywaz | hey guys. i have an interesting dilemma. when i am using google talk / aim transport, and the icon is online and available in the sysem tray, i don't get ims unless i open a chat window first | 20:06 |
| Andy80 | the procedure to install the new kernel is the same to install a new firmware, described here: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithLinux ? | 20:08 |
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| Andy80 | I've followed the procedure and this is the output: http://pastebin.ca/735454 | 20:14 |
| bobbywaz | nevermind. i was siged on somewhere else | 20:15 |
| Andy80 | then I've powered on the n770 and checked in a terminal the uname -a output | 20:15 |
| Andy80 | but it doesn't look like a new kernel.... | 20:15 |
| Andy80 | what's wrong? | 20:15 |
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| kaltsi | do you want to just load that kernel or flash it permanently? | 20:26 |
| Andy80 | just load and boot it to test (like he suggest to do) | 20:27 |
| Andy80 | then I want to flash it | 20:27 |
| kaltsi | right, I actually have the same problem.. I'm not sure how to just load a kernel image :-/ | 20:29 |
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| Blacksitox | hi | 20:33 |
| bobbywaz | hi | 20:33 |
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| Tu13es | :-\ | 20:38 |
| Tu13es | I'm tempted to buy an iPod Touch | 20:38 |
| Atarii | u fool | 20:38 |
| Atarii | kick ban kick ban! | 20:38 |
| Tu13es | lol | 20:38 |
| Tu13es | i know, i know | 20:38 |
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| Tu13es | i don't use my n800 much though | 20:40 |
| Tu13es | really I just use it in class when I don't feel like using my macbook | 20:40 |
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| xan | frade, ping | 21:44 |
| frade | hi xan | 21:44 |
| xan | frade, not registered, so can't do /msg :p | 21:45 |
| xan | frade, go to irc.gnome.org? | 21:45 |
| frade | NickServ- You have already identified | 21:45 |
| frade | xan, ok | 21:46 |
| xan | no, I mean I am not registered | 21:46 |
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| milhouse | Anyone tried Sardine (on the device) lately? | 21:58 |
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| milhouse | I haven't managed a succesful Sardine upgrade in weeks | 21:58 |
| milhouse | Either I'm doing something wrong, or it's been abandoned... | 21:58 |
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| esworp | yo., quick question: | 22:56 |
| esworp | has anyone had any hands on with that bluetooth laser keyboard? | 22:56 |
| user__ | hi | 22:57 |
| _Monkey | what's up, user__ | 22:57 |
| user__ | not hands on but i heard it sucks | 22:58 |
| pupnikafk | yes someone here used it and said it works | 22:58 |
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| esworp | yeah, it seems like a nifty doodad. but if it seems too good to be true... | 22:59 |
| milhouse | esworp: yeah, apparently it works but no tactile feedback and your fingers banging away on a hard surface for extended periods is somewhat unpleasant | 23:00 |
| milhouse | esworp: the upshot is yes it works, but read some reviews before going ahead - most are average at best | 23:01 |
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| esworp | i used to use a fabric keyboard with my palm; it was doable- it wasnt BT though | 23:01 |
| bobbywaz | just get a folding bluetooth keyboard | 23:01 |
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| esworp | i probably will. just curious, yaknow? | 23:02 |
| bobbywaz | yeah | 23:02 |
| bobbywaz | it's overpriced, and from what I hear, it doesn't work good enough to pay that much for it | 23:02 |
| esworp | word. the cost is the main suck-factor. | 23:03 |
| bobbywaz | if it was 50 and sucked, or 120 and worked reall well, I'dsay yes, but from what I hear about it, it's not worth it | 23:03 |
| bobbywaz | I came home with my first n800 two days ago, and my room mate happened to have a mac bluetoooth keyboard she bought for her macmini, that doesn't have bluetooth | 23:03 |
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| bobbywaz | so that's what I'm typing on right now | 23:04 |
| milhouse | bobby - is that the new thin aluminium kb? | 23:05 |
| esworp | i was mulling over the full size vs. folding dilemma | 23:05 |
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| bobbywaz | I say get a full size dell for 20 on ebay, or if you've got the 50-60 get a folding | 23:05 |
| esworp | thanks again for the intel, folks; i'm out | 23:06 |
| pupnikafk | my stowaway was $120 | 23:06 |
| pupnikafk | cu | 23:06 |
| milhouse | bobby - this one? http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?nplm=MB167LL/A | 23:06 |
| milhouse | (just interested to know what the feel is like, and the extent of key travel) | 23:07 |
| milhouse | pupnikafk: your name is a lie | 23:08 |
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| pupnik | oopp | 23:08 |
| milhouse | :) | 23:08 |
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| bobbywaz | no | 23:09 |
| bobbywaz | not that one | 23:09 |
| bobbywaz | that's the new one I think | 23:09 |
| milhouse | k | 23:09 |
| bobbywaz | this is the older one | 23:09 |
| bobbywaz | clear plastic back, all white from | 23:09 |
| bobbywaz | front | 23:09 |
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