IRC log of #maemo for Sunday, 2007-10-14

czrhmm. any hints on how to get python-gtk into the sdk without too much resistance? (that and python-dbus-bindings too)00:01
hillct|R: what codecs can the RTComm sip client use? I'm having transcoding issues connecting to my CW box (like asterisk). What peer config are you using?00:02
lmouraczr, add the extras repository to sources.list00:03
czrlmoura, just bora/extras? no python-gtk there though00:04
czror it's at some other url than the normal repos?00:05
lmouradeb bora free non-free00:05
czrhmm. thanks00:07
czrthere's no gtk for 2.3 though :-)00:07
lmouraczr, python2.5-gtk00:07
czryes I know, but..00:07
czrI'd rather not mess up with the SDK too much so that I don't get hidden deps when going to the device00:08
lmourain the sdk, python2.5 keeps the original python intact00:08
czrah. great.00:09
czrI'll test it out. trying to get dbus inspector to run00:09
lmouraczr, it'll require some work. dbus binding's are 0.7100:09
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lmoura(dbus itself is 0.61 in bora)00:10
czrI see where you're going with that then.00:10
czrmeh: dbus-inspector:34: GtkWarning: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed00:11
czrdoesn't start very well. STOCK_INFO is missing too.00:12
* czr doesn't know what to fix first..00:12
czrmaybe I'll just ignore the problem and it will go away :-)00:15
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_Monkeyi think uktube is what I'm missing mainly right now01:22
esworp... thnks monkey.01:22
esworpi need to flash to the a more recent version of maemo..01:24
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esworpi know i'll loose anything on the non-sd memory.  My question is, will the backup program backup /everything/?  aka gpe calendar dates, my contact list?01:25
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zerojayDepends on if they followed convention and put stuff in the right places.01:34
zerojayI'd back it up manually just in case.01:34
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esworpusing rsync and push/pull?01:37
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esworpfyi: from what I see, the n800's backup tool backs up the user's .gpe directory.02:02
* esworp crosses his fingers.02:02
esworpok..  time to  tackle this here reflashing nonsense.02:03
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glauberviniciusi need to install a package that depends on pkg-config. how can i install it?02:12
glauberviniciusanyone can help me?02:13
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glauberviniciusthe package i am talking is libebook-dev02:18
pupnikapt-get install pkg-config in scratchbox02:20
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glauberviniciusi need to install directly in N80002:23
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pupnikwhy do you want a -dev package on the device?02:25
glauberviniciuspupnik, do you know in what repository pkg-config is available?02:25
_Monkeyrepositories is  and a searchable index at
glauberviniciusi am testing my application directly ion N800, without using scratchbox02:27
pupniksearch link above02:27
pupnik-dev packages are for development, so is pkg-config02:28
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jpt9hey pupnik.03:04
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jpt9do you suppose it would be at all practical to run common lisp on a 770?03:04
jpt9any chance you could compile it?03:05
* jpt9 just discovered the book _practical common lisp_. it's great. it teaches lisp much more as a programming language rather than the usual math-ish stuff most books do.03:06
jpt9not that I have any problem with math, but it's a programming language.03:06
pupniki only learned some scheme back in college03:06
pupnikclisp wants gcc-4.1 and i only have 3.403:07
pupniki'll try removing the requirement03:07
pupnikis it in the repos already?03:08
_Monkeywell, repositories is  and a searchable index at
jpt9if i have a virtual ubuntu box (qemu), how hard would it be to set up a cross-compiling environment thingy?03:08
pupnikpretty much just follow the recipe - i screwed up a bunch so it took me a couple of days03:08
pupniksorry it won't compile here03:09
jpt9sucky :-(03:09
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Esworpconfirmed trivial fact:03:18
Esworpgpe pim info /is/ backed up when usiing the built in backup/restore app03:19
Esworpbummer:  themes like nuvo don't seem to work03:20
pupnika corrupt theme can break a system03:21
timelesswhat *can't* break a system?03:21
pupnikso that has positive sides03:22
Esworphow badly?03:22
pupniknot being able to see any menus or dialogues03:22
pupnikso it's a different category from application preferences03:22
timelessimagine the entire screen white on white03:23
Esworpi noticed after bieng told the theme was corrupt, the default theme's scrollbars were wonky till after a reboot03:23
timelesswith hints of white :)03:23
pupnikheh timeless you've seen it too eh :)03:23
timelessno, but i can imagine it ... did someone manage that?03:23
pupniki did03:24
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Esworpso i guess stuff made with thememaker are a no go with the latest firmware for now03:25
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timelesswhat's the latest firmware?03:26
timelesslast i checked the latest firmware was something like *one* change in kernel from the previous firmware03:26
* timeless doesn't think they even included a fix to let file manager fix mmc's03:27
Esworp<shrug>  i just installed the most recent one after whatever was on it after i bought it.03:27
alteregoMine came with the latest.03:28
alteregoThough I've flashed it several times.03:28
timelesswhich is what?03:28
alteregoAt the time 4.2007.26-803:28
alteregoThere has been one release since that,.03:29
alteregoWhich fixes the SD corruption errors.03:29
alteregoWith some SDHC cards.03:29
* Esworp is so lame that he doesn't know anyone who can use the vidchat app with : (03:29
alteregoThere's other stuff too, I think they've made it go a little faster.03:29
milhousei wonder why the maemo site spazzes out when you request this page
milhouseyet other invalid pages such as
milhousego to the correct "not found" page03:32
milhousemost odd.03:32
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milhousenote that the first URL (which behaves oddly) is for the "N900" (made up name for the device going through FCC right now...)03:34
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milhouserats, now the n900 page goes to notfound instead of failing on localhost...03:36
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alteregoWell, 770, 800, 9XX :)03:37
alteregoThough, 770 wasn't N series.03:37
milhouseI don't think Nokia knew what to do with the 770!03:37
pupniki wonder what people we owe the 770 to03:38
pupniker, i wonder whom it is to which we owe the 77003:38
pupniki have to imagine someone at nokia saw this new 800x480 screen and said.. whoah!  lets make a browsery thing with an arm cpu and linux, then took out his sword and battled the idea through the boardrooms03:43
alteregoI think the official story goes some important people at Nokia asked a few guys in a basement somewhere to show them what they could do with Linux.03:44
alteregoMaemo and the 770 were born.03:44
Esworpsomething is up with my browser...  trying to download a .deb file results it no option to 'open' and a looping download progress indicator03:48
timelessanyone here have an n800 and a bluetooth device?03:53
timelessbug 220  wants someone to check03:53
_MonkeyBug 220 might be found at
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milhouseso annoying when bug reporters disappear from the face of the earth - i'd be tempted to close the bug through lack of interest. :) (unfortunately I don't have a BT dongle, or even a Mac...)04:02
timelessbetter to just get into the habbit of treating bugs as drive by reports04:02
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* timeless sighs04:03
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timelesspersonally what i hate more is this very annoying spammer who spammed most 2007 bugs w/ a, ITOS2007HE-garage keyword and corrupted their url fields04:03
milhousealthough the delays between bug opening and request for additional info don't exactly help...04:03
* timeless wonders if the spammer got permission to log in again04:03
milhousetimeless: aha... speak to mr gil about that :)04:04
milhousetimeless: word is, he is/was legit04:04
timelessi yanked the user's login account on vacation04:04
timelessfailure to respond to a direct threat and continued to abuse bugzilla04:04
timelesssorry, doing that will lose your login04:04
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milhousehe did appear to be adding OS2007HE keywords somewhat blindly :(04:06
timelessbug 269 is depressing04:07
_MonkeyBug 269 might be found at
timelessi don't mind the keyword04:07
timelessi object to corrupting the url field04:07
timelesswhich is not a freeform field04:07
timelessand i object to grand theft bug04:07
timelesswhich is what he did04:08
timelessoh great, my browser crashed04:08
milhousewassup with 296 which is a dupe of 268? i added a comment to 268... (#5) :)04:09
milhouse269 is a bit vague, i grant you - and perhaps even unreasonable/unrealistic04:09
milhousebut neither have anything to do with OS 2007HE :)04:10
_Monkeyrepositories is  and a searchable index at
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timelessdid i pick the wrong bug?04:26
timelesscomment 1 said04:27
timelessGah, sorry for duplicating bug #268 by accident.04:27
_MonkeyBug 268 might be found at
* timeless frowns04:28
timelesssomeone should comment in 268 re c5 that you can turn off key clicks04:28
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timelesswanna fork that bug?04:33
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timelesscan someone check bug  487?05:22
_MonkeyBug 487 might be found at
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erstazitimeless: I can look05:30
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erstazitimeless: I don't have audio on this box for me to test in scratchbox ): sorry05:30
timelessno audio??05:31
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erstazitimeless: none05:39
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sciboyI have thick walls, hope the N800 will be able to pick up on the wifi signal.06:53
RobdgreatWhat's the preferred solution for scratchbox in windows?06:54
RobdgreatI have ubuntu in vmware but if there were some better way...06:54
sciboyI haven't tried but there's a vmware image06:54
Robdgreatah ok06:54
Robdgreatah yeah I seem to recall someone mentioning that06:55
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GeneralAntillessciboy, the N800 has about the best wifi reception on any device ever. ;)07:09
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|RGeneralAntilles: agreed :)07:12
sciboyGeneralAntilles, Just hoping that's enough.07:12
GeneralAntillesWell, it worked fine in my parents house with 1 wireless router, and lots of lead paint and plaster. ;)07:13
sciboyDoesn't make it through the last wall for all my devices.07:13
sciboyAlthough you go to the door and reception is perfect.07:13
sciboyI have a WiFi AP with an 10m of ethernet taking advantage of that for my desktop pc. =P07:14
GeneralAntillesAt worst, just go pick up another router for $40 and another run of Cat5.07:14
sciboyI already ate into my gadget budget with the N800. =P07:15
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GeneralAntillesGo sell some blood or something, then. :P07:15
sciboyAnyway it's just the last wall killing the reception, hopefully the N800 will get through it.07:16
GeneralAntillesSeems likely07:18
GeneralAntillesIt picks up about 10 networks from my apartment, compared to 3 with my G5.07:18
sciboyStill haven't gotten an ETA for my order. =(07:22
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sciboyOh cool, I failed to notice in my initial enquiry they said the delivery should take a few days since they're in stock.07:42
sciboyThey should be able to confirm my bank transfer tomorrow.07:42
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* |R is trying to figure out how to setup a dev env to cross compile some utils...08:59
* |R misses strings / md5sum ;)08:59
_Monkeyrumour has it linux is a free kernel thats inside most open source operating systems today and its a core technology for Maemo09:00
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zoranlisted in /dev directory?09:00
|Rno a development environment, not /dev :)09:01
zoranor you mean setting variable ENV?09:01
|Rmaemo 3.2 SDK09:01
|Ror some such...09:01
zoranshould be set in .bashrc or similar09:01
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|Rzoran : what? :P i mean installing the whole thing...09:02
zoranlemme c09:03
zoranthere is install.txt09:04
zoranI saw different manual for that09:04
|Rany suggestions? :)09:04
zoranI recall downloading 3 or 4 files from the net09:05
zoranthen just unziping them somewhere09:05
zoranand fine tutorial09:05
|Rthis tutorial seems painful...09:05
zoranI never installed it cause I have bsd box and it did not work09:05
zoranah, yes, it differs from what I knew09:06
zoranafter making new site, I cannot find what I want09:06
zoranand the tutorial was 1 ot more Mb09:06
zoranvery large and informative09:06
zoranwith steps to install and everything09:07
zoranmaybe you could google for it?09:07
|RI'll look :)09:08
zorank, found09:09
|Rah yes09:10
|Ri have it open already hehe :)09:10
zorangood luck09:10
|Rthanks :)09:11
|Rfound this too09:11
zoranI had an idea to make just one thing: to recompiile the kernel09:11
zoranand to buy a white box and a lot of pain...09:12
zoranjust dor stupid module09:12
zoranI always expected from nokia repository of kernel modules09:12
zoranI was so mad that I did not use 770 for months09:13
zoranmy fault, I expected too much09:14
zoranbtw, |R, do you have linux box handy?09:15
zoranI had a problem making files on usb flash09:16
zoran8.3 problem09:16
zoranon freebsd I made it as msdos fs09:16
zoranand read it as vfat09:16
zoranon linux09:16
zoranI thought I should see it as long names09:16
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|Rmkfs.dos ?09:19
zoranhm, vfat shoud read more than 8.309:20
zoranit is brand new usb stick09:20
|Ryep... you need joliet extensions maybe?09:22
zoranhm, I use it on making cd09:22
zoranto see it on windows boxes09:23
|Rthen i'm lost :|09:23
zoranbut, this is newly bought flash09:23
zorank :)09:23
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|Rok wtf, my scratchbox-core is too old according to the script... if i change it to 0.0.1 (min required) it still complains :P09:50
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SenileBobIs anyone interested in doing some commercial work for the N800? PM me for more details10:25
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DRoBeRHello :)13:01
sciboyHi. =D13:02
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flip^ok, i reflashed my n800 so that i could start afresh, and so that i could fix my broken app manager... why is it that after half an hour of fiddling, after one of many occasions when i edit sources.list, the app manager is now broken again.....14:08
* sciboy shrugs.14:13
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GeneralAntillesYou did something wrong?14:19
GeneralAntillesWhat's the log showing?14:19
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Jiten_flip^: well, clearly, whatever you did that broke it the first time, you did again.14:48
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Ar-rasDoes somebody know how to install octave on N800 with IT OS 2007?15:00
suihkulokkiAr-ras: octave is a problem since it has some many dependencies15:01
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Ar-rasDo you mean that there are no ready compiled packages fpr IT OS 2007?15:04
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Ar-rasIs there somebody with the needed skill to compile it for N800?15:12
Ar-rasI would pay 25 Euro by paypal for a crosscompiled version.15:14
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alteregoCross compiled version of what?15:17
alteregoNo idea what that is :)15:17
Ar-rasIf you take a source of a normal linux version15:18
Ar-rasand use header from the maemo sdk15:18
Ar-rasor something like that15:18
Ar-rasI want Octave for my N800, to use it for my chemistry study15:19
Ar-rasAnd I read that it would work on N80015:19
Ar-rasbut that packages seems to be incompatible with N80015:20
Ar-rasi downloaded directly the arm.deb files15:20
alteregoYou could try installing it from the command line.15:20
alterego'dpkg -i package.deb`15:21
Ar-rasso i change with xterm to the memory card and run that?15:22
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Ar-rasalterego i need root access15:26
Ar-rasso i use sudo15:26
Ar-raswhat is the password?15:26
_Monkeythe password is probably "rootme" (change it instantly)15:26
alteregothe root password is rootme15:26
Ar-raslol "Sorry, try again"15:27
alteregoDon't use sudo15:27
alteregouse su15:27
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Ar-ras"su: applet requires root privileges!"15:29
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alteregoLook for a tutorial on gaining root access.15:29
alteregoThere's on on the wiki15:29
_Monkeygainroot is a quick howto to become root here  and more information is here
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Ar-rasgot root by ssh15:41
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Ar-rasdpkg wants octave 2.915:43
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SenileBobIs anyone interested in doing some commercial work for the N800? PM me for more details16:19
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Ar-rassays that it doesnt accept because it is wrong platform16:28
Ar-rasarm and not armel16:28
Ar-rasdoes somebody has the correct packages?16:29
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sciboySource fixes everything.17:06
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Ar-rassciboy ?17:07
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_Monkeyrumour has it sciboy is my username at gp32x17:07
sciboyAr-ras ?17:08
sciboysciboy ?17:08
_Monkeyyou are my username at gp32x?17:08
sciboyWhy did you choose that to quote me.17:08
sciboysciboy is funny, tee hee hee.17:09
sciboysciboy ?17:09
_Monkeyyou are my username at gp32x?17:09
sciboysciboy ?17:09
_Monkeyyou are my username at gp32x?17:09
_Monkeyi guess sciboy is my username at gp32x?17:09
_Monkeyzoran is modest guy17:09
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b0unc3hello ppl17:19
zoranpeople say hello17:21
timelessanyone here have a 770 handy17:31
Ar-rasnein das heißt mobile auf englisch17:31
Ar-rasund außerdem ist das kein handy17:31
pupnik_i do17:32
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zoranhandy == ready to use in this moment17:36
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glauberviniciusI am trying to use import evolution.ebook as evo at N800. When I do that, I´ve got ImportError: could not import evolution.ebook and ImportError: No module named evolution.ebook17:41
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Ar-rasdoes somebody uses octave?17:42
glauberviniciuswhat packages must i have to install?17:42
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zoransomeone has any kingston usb flash stick? mine is probably preformatted to fat16. shows 8.3 names. unbielavable17:59
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glauberviniciusanyone can help me with import evolution?18:04
pupnikglaubervinicius: what is url of this package 'import evolution'?18:04
zoranI found; is it your app?18:05
glauberviniciuspupnik, i have used
glauberviniciuspupnik, i hav installed from this repository
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glauberviniciuszoran, i this link is broke18:08
zoranhm, I opened it few secs before18:09
zoranadd www18:09
pupnik  perhaps you should contact these people directly, glaubervinicius18:10
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glauberviniciusok pupnik, i will try18:11
pupnikglaubervinicius: also you can try to install packages ignoring dependencies, using dpkg -i <packagename>18:11
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_Monkeysomebody said repositories was  and a searchable index at
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pupnikevolution looks like an interesting PIM suite18:16
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pupnikTak|work: around?18:32
pupnikTak|work: fceu main.c has a default soundrate of 48000 long soundrate=48000;, this variable gets passed to fceu engine for sound emu - i found not much difference lowering it - but it should be at 8192 i think.  I also found that soundbufsize gets passed to fceu engine long soundbufsize=24;  and increasing it to around 512 reduced skipping18:35
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pupnikwb zerojay18:39
Ar-rasdoes somebody get octave working on N800?18:39
guardian_what's octave?18:43
_Monkeyoctave is a problem since it has some many dependencies18:43
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Ar-rasoctave = matLab Clone18:43
zerojaypupnik: Thanks.18:43
guardian_ok thx18:44
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* flip^ grimaces at mention of matlab18:44
guardianyeah same here :)18:44
guardianmakes me immediately thinks it doesn't mix with handhelds :)18:44
celesteh_Monkey: Octave is a matlab clone18:45
_Monkey...but octave is a problem since it has some many dependencies...18:45
celesteh_Monkey, forget octave18:46
_Monkeycelesteh: I forgot octave18:46
celesteh_Monkey: Octave is a matlab clone that can be a problem because it has so many dependencies18:46
_MonkeyOK, celesteh.18:46
_Monkeyoctave is a matlab clone that can be a problem because it has so many dependencies18:46
zoranapp catalog 2006 shows 4 deps18:47
Ar-ras? what does that mean?18:47
_MonkeyOctave is a matlab clone that can be a problem because it has so many dependencies18:47
zoranrepository for 2006;18:47
zoranif lucky, maybve works for 200718:48
zoranbtw, do you have some binaty for octave?18:48
zoran*binary18:48 is a contact18:49
Ar-rasi dont found compatible binary#18:49
zoranask the man18:50
Ar-raswrote a mail to him18:50
Ar-rasno answer till now18:50
Ar-rasbut if i could find the 2006 binaries...18:50
Ar-rasbut dont know where they are :(+18:50
Ar-rasjust found some arm but not armel binaries18:51
zoranI heard that there is a diff18:51
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Ar-rasdiff in what?18:52
zoranarm vs armel or else18:54
Ar-rasthat are armel binaries18:56
zoranshould it be arm for n800?18:57
Ar-rasarmel is correct18:58
Ar-rasit installed18:59
Ar-rasi cant find it in the "start menu"18:59
zoransee the list of 4 dependencies18:59
zoranno big deal :)18:59
zorancall it from command line18:59
zoranoctave &; exit18:59
pupnikwant demos of the OMAP 3430 doing OpenGL graphics?
pupnik(mpeg video)19:00
Ar-rashehe i have installed octave19:01
pupniknot technically the omap though still - same gpu19:01
Ar-rasbut now it is to complicated for me :D19:01
zorannothing is too complicated for n800 user!19:02
Ar-rasbut i thought it would have a gui19:02
zoranwhat it is in deed?19:02
Ar-rasit should be a CAS19:03
Ar-rasComputer Algebra System19:03
Ar-rasI thought so ...19:03
zoranhm, like it with lemon19:03
zorandoes it work for you now?19:04
Ar-raslemon is CAS for N800?19:04
Ar-rasit is a buggy shell :S19:04
zoranstandard xterm or maemo-hackers' one?19:04
Ar-rasxterm from maemo-hackers repo19:05
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zoranshell is ash19:05
zoranif you could install bash and call it from prompt: "bash"19:06
Ar-raswhere is the prompt?19:06
zoranI had an issue making bash default via chsh19:06
zoranthe very first sign on the line19:06
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Ar-rasuse xterm to start bash?19:07
zorancould be safer19:08
zoranjust type bash19:08
zoranmothing else19:08
Ar-rason N800?19:08
zoranif you have a prob with ash19:08
zoranwhy not?19:08
zoranyou haev spare space as you liek19:08
Ar-rasand where is the command line?19:08
zoranon the xterm19:08
zoranwhat problem it shows?19:09
zoranI never saw it in action19:10
Ar-rasDo you know an alternative Program for using N800 as CAS?19:10
Ar-rasbc? is that the name of the program?19:11
zoranif you find one in perl and python, you could port it in a sec19:11
zoranyes, bc, in app cat 200619:11
zoranah, no bc for 200719:12
zorank, found something called "maxima" for perl19:14
Ar-rasis there nothing with GUI?19:15
zoranfolks, somebody had to reformat usb drive to handle long names?19:19
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pupnikanybody with n800 and fceu NES emulator installed want to test a tweaked version?  i am curious to know if sound is better ..
Ar-raszoran Why did you posted that link?19:20
zoranfor you to take a look at math progs19:20
|Rpupnik : i was testing for tak who fixed the flickering with button press and trying to recover the UI at startup but i didn't notice any problem with sound on my n800, so maybe i'm not the best tester for that :)19:20
* zoran goes to see if dragons still use fire to burn19:21
Ar-raszoran I am from Leipzig19:21
pupnik|R: when music plays, you do not hear stuttering/slow music?19:22
|Rno, the only thing slow is the video refresh19:23
|Rwell let me see, maybe i'm too tolerant and didn't notice brb :)19:23
|R(btw, anyone has their applet all unchecked after a screen sleep?!)19:24
pupnikzeez writes "Except for the sound stuttering a bit"19:24
|Rnop, no stuttering here19:26
|Rthe applet thing is weird, if i reboot they come back, but in the menu they are all unchecked19:27
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|Ris there anything special to know to change the logos in: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/hildon19:35
|R(are they signed somewhere? keep same resolution? special formats?19:35
pupnikcopy them to pc and examine19:41
|Rthat's what i've done, just wondering if there is any counter indications ;)19:41
|Rdon't want to reinstall everything just because i changed the bootup screen :P19:41
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Fatal\o/ my old craptastic nokia syncs with ntp now20:14
Fatalwrong channel :P20:14
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hillctGood afternoon all20:40
hillctI'm trying to find a build of the Nano editor for the n80020:40
hillctOne was listed at but the link is aparently no good20:41
pupniksearched gronmayer?20:41
_Monkeyrepositories is  and a searchable index at
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hillctsame result. it says 'nano' is in the maemo 3.0 repository but it simply isn't there20:48
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hillctie, doesn't show up in the installable apps list when that repo is added (I already had it)20:49
pupnikthe packager should be informed of this20:50
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pupniki don't have a local copy for you sorry20:52
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hillctpupnik: np. Tanks for the guidance. Perhaps this is a good oportunity for me to grab the SDB and learn how to build and package for the N80020:58
hillctfrom the docs, it appears the toolchain is well defined and the packaging is streight forward .deb more or less20:59
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hillctpupnik: FYI this thread seems to discuss the nano problem. I guess it's just not in a repo as it should be
hillctI haven't tried the package from the indicated source though (yet)21:29
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GruessleHi I am shopping for an SD card and was wondering if I am limited to 4G HDSC or if I could go to 8GB or even 16GB21:52
TPC8GB is the limit21:54
TPCI think I read somewhere that 16GB will be supported in future firmwares, but I could be mistaken about that21:54
GruessleWhere can I verify that?21:55
TPCsearching on would be a good place to start21:56
GruessleOK thanks, I will21:56
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Jiten_I thought SDHC standard goes way higher than 8GB. Sounds kind of like artificial limitation.22:19
zerojayThey probably only had 8GB cards to test with.22:21
zerojayIt's not like 16GB cards are easy to find.22:21
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Jiten_then again, I haven't even tried anything over 2GB in my n800 yet.22:26
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ericzmy dropbear ssh client is giving "Segmentation fault" :(22:29
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dick-richardsonhow do I find the local ip my n800 has?22:39
alteregoThe connection manager has that,22:43
alterego"Connection Manager" (Menu) -> "Internet connection" -> "IP Address"22:44
ericzssh + xmms-shell in xterm on the 770 makes a decent stereo remote for my server connected to speakers/TV :P22:45
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alteregoI'd probably wrap that up in a slim web app :22:46
ericzi do know PHP, but it'd be awkward, since i suck at php..22:47
alteregoI used to write CGI scripts in sh :P22:47
alteregoYou don't have to use PHP.22:47
ericzheh, i'd have a bunch of php system() commands22:47
DRoBeRWho of you tried an "OpenVPN client" under N800? :)22:49
pupnikericz: re ssh+xterm i think there are projects aiming for a gui remote for music22:49
alteregoericz, if that was all you were doing then maybe you should do it in bash or whatever ;)22:49
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ericzjust setup shoutcast.22:59
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DRoBeR"SBOX_CPUTRANSPARENCY_METHOD" what is that variable?23:10
DRoBeRIt says that I need to define it...23:10
GruessleAre there any GPS devices you can recommend. I saw a link to a 29.99 device in the form once but can't find it anymore23:12
flip^anyone else found that with the latest flash, the application launcher crashes every so often just at the end of an installation?23:13
dpryoI've got a $30 usb-gps thing, works nicely23:13
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Gruesslewhere did you get it and why did you get usb vs blue23:14
dpryoBut i'd recommend a bluetooth type, due to impractical usb-connectors on 770/800 :)23:14
GruessleThat's what I thought23:14
dpryoSome local store, nothing special about it23:14
Gruessleok thanks23:14
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dick-richardsonalterego: thank you!23:25
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glauberviniciushas anyone had .deb of evolution-python-0.0.4 for armel?23:30
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dick-richardsonwhere do I find the 'route' command?23:40
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disqin /sbin?23:46
lmouraglaubervinicius, check easy's mailing list (google groups)23:46
lmouraI sent an early version there23:47
* DRoBeR is away: detached client =)23:48
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glauberviniciuslmoura, what is the google group name?23:50
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dick-richardsondisq: there it is...wasn't in my path23:53
dick-richardsonthank you23:53
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glauberviniciuslmoura, i have not found the easy group at google.23:59

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