| czr | hmm. any hints on how to get python-gtk into the sdk without too much resistance? (that and python-dbus-bindings too) | 00:01 |
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| czr | (bora) | 00:01 |
| hillct | |R: what codecs can the RTComm sip client use? I'm having transcoding issues connecting to my CW box (like asterisk). What peer config are you using? | 00:02 |
| lmoura | czr, add the extras repository to sources.list | 00:03 |
| czr | lmoura, just bora/extras? no python-gtk there though | 00:04 |
| czr | or it's at some other url than the normal repos? | 00:05 |
| lmoura | deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras bora free non-free | 00:05 |
| czr | hmm. thanks | 00:07 |
| czr | there's no gtk for 2.3 though :-) | 00:07 |
| lmoura | czr, python2.5-gtk | 00:07 |
| czr | yes I know, but.. | 00:07 |
| czr | I'd rather not mess up with the SDK too much so that I don't get hidden deps when going to the device | 00:08 |
| lmoura | in the sdk, python2.5 keeps the original python intact | 00:08 |
| czr | ah. great. | 00:09 |
| czr | I'll test it out. trying to get dbus inspector to run | 00:09 |
| lmoura | czr, it'll require some work. dbus binding's are 0.71 | 00:09 |
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| lmoura | (dbus itself is 0.61 in bora) | 00:10 |
| czr | ah | 00:10 |
| czr | I see where you're going with that then. | 00:10 |
| czr | meh: dbus-inspector:34: GtkWarning: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed | 00:11 |
| czr | doesn't start very well. STOCK_INFO is missing too. | 00:12 |
| * czr doesn't know what to fix first.. | 00:12 | |
| czr | maybe I'll just ignore the problem and it will go away :-) | 00:15 |
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| esworp | uktube? | 01:22 |
| _Monkey | i think uktube is what I'm missing mainly right now | 01:22 |
| esworp | ... thnks monkey. | 01:22 |
| esworp | i need to flash to the a more recent version of maemo.. | 01:24 |
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| esworp | i know i'll loose anything on the non-sd memory. My question is, will the backup program backup /everything/? aka gpe calendar dates, my contact list? | 01:25 |
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| zerojay | Depends on if they followed convention and put stuff in the right places. | 01:34 |
| zerojay | I'd back it up manually just in case. | 01:34 |
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| esworp | using rsync and push/pull? | 01:37 |
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| esworp | fyi: from what I see, the n800's backup tool backs up the user's .gpe directory. | 02:02 |
| * esworp crosses his fingers. | 02:02 | |
| esworp | ok.. time to tackle this here reflashing nonsense. | 02:03 |
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| glaubervinicius | i need to install a package that depends on pkg-config. how can i install it? | 02:12 |
| glaubervinicius | anyone can help me? | 02:13 |
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| glaubervinicius | the package i am talking is libebook-dev | 02:18 |
| pupnik | apt-get install pkg-config in scratchbox | 02:20 |
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| glaubervinicius | i need to install directly in N800 | 02:23 |
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| pupnik | why do you want a -dev package on the device? | 02:25 |
| glaubervinicius | pupnik, do you know in what repository pkg-config is available? | 02:25 |
| pupnik | repositories? | 02:25 |
| _Monkey | repositories is http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php | 02:25 |
| glaubervinicius | i am testing my application directly ion N800, without using scratchbox | 02:27 |
| pupnik | search link above | 02:27 |
| pupnik | -dev packages are for development, so is pkg-config | 02:28 |
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| jpt9 | hey pupnik. | 03:04 |
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| jpt9 | do you suppose it would be at all practical to run common lisp on a 770? | 03:04 |
| pupnik | sure | 03:05 |
| jpt9 | any chance you could compile it? | 03:05 |
| * jpt9 just discovered the book _practical common lisp_. it's great. it teaches lisp much more as a programming language rather than the usual math-ish stuff most books do. | 03:06 | |
| jpt9 | not that I have any problem with math, but it's a programming language. | 03:06 |
| pupnik | i only learned some scheme back in college | 03:06 |
| jpt9 | ah. | 03:06 |
| pupnik | clisp wants gcc-4.1 and i only have 3.4 | 03:07 |
| pupnik | i'll try removing the requirement | 03:07 |
| jpt9 | okay. | 03:08 |
| pupnik | is it in the repos already? | 03:08 |
| pupnik | repositories? | 03:08 |
| _Monkey | well, repositories is http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php | 03:08 |
| jpt9 | if i have a virtual ubuntu box (qemu), how hard would it be to set up a cross-compiling environment thingy? | 03:08 |
| pupnik | pretty much just follow the recipe - i screwed up a bunch so it took me a couple of days | 03:08 |
| pupnik | sorry it won't compile here | 03:09 |
| jpt9 | sucky :-( | 03:09 |
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| Esworp | confirmed trivial fact: | 03:18 |
| Esworp | gpe pim info /is/ backed up when usiing the built in backup/restore app | 03:19 |
| Esworp | bummer: themes like nuvo don't seem to work | 03:20 |
| pupnik | a corrupt theme can break a system | 03:21 |
| timeless | what *can't* break a system? | 03:21 |
| pupnik | so that has positive sides | 03:22 |
| Esworp | how badly? | 03:22 |
| pupnik | not being able to see any menus or dialogues | 03:22 |
| pupnik | so it's a different category from application preferences | 03:22 |
| timeless | imagine the entire screen white on white | 03:23 |
| Esworp | i noticed after bieng told the theme was corrupt, the default theme's scrollbars were wonky till after a reboot | 03:23 |
| timeless | with hints of white :) | 03:23 |
| pupnik | heh timeless you've seen it too eh :) | 03:23 |
| timeless | no, but i can imagine it ... did someone manage that? | 03:23 |
| pupnik | i did | 03:24 |
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| timeless | nice | 03:24 |
| Esworp | so i guess stuff made with thememaker are a no go with the latest firmware for now | 03:25 |
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| timeless | what's the latest firmware? | 03:26 |
| timeless | last i checked the latest firmware was something like *one* change in kernel from the previous firmware | 03:26 |
| * timeless doesn't think they even included a fix to let file manager fix mmc's | 03:27 | |
| Esworp | <shrug> i just installed the most recent one after whatever was on it after i bought it. | 03:27 |
| alterego | Mine came with the latest. | 03:28 |
| alterego | Though I've flashed it several times. | 03:28 |
| timeless | which is what? | 03:28 |
| alterego | At the time 4.2007.26-8 | 03:28 |
| alterego | There has been one release since that,. | 03:29 |
| alterego | Which fixes the SD corruption errors. | 03:29 |
| alterego | With some SDHC cards. | 03:29 |
| * Esworp is so lame that he doesn't know anyone who can use the vidchat app with : ( | 03:29 | |
| alterego | There's other stuff too, I think they've made it go a little faster. | 03:29 |
| milhouse | i wonder why the maemo site spazzes out when you request this page http://maemo.org/community/wiki/n900developerdeviceprogram/ | 03:32 |
| milhouse | yet other invalid pages such as http://maemo.org/community/wiki/n801developerdeviceprogram/ | 03:32 |
| milhouse | go to the correct "not found" page | 03:32 |
| milhouse | most odd. | 03:32 |
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| milhouse | note that the first URL (which behaves oddly) is for the "N900" (made up name for the device going through FCC right now...) | 03:34 |
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| milhouse | rats, now the n900 page goes to notfound instead of failing on localhost... | 03:36 |
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| alterego | Well, 770, 800, 9XX :) | 03:37 |
| alterego | Though, 770 wasn't N series. | 03:37 |
| milhouse | I don't think Nokia knew what to do with the 770! | 03:37 |
| pupnik | i wonder what people we owe the 770 to | 03:38 |
| pupnik | er, i wonder whom it is to which we owe the 770 | 03:38 |
| pupnik | bah | 03:39 |
| alterego | ;) | 03:39 |
| pupnik | i have to imagine someone at nokia saw this new 800x480 screen and said.. whoah! lets make a browsery thing with an arm cpu and linux, then took out his sword and battled the idea through the boardrooms | 03:43 |
| alterego | I think the official story goes some important people at Nokia asked a few guys in a basement somewhere to show them what they could do with Linux. | 03:44 |
| alterego | Maemo and the 770 were born. | 03:44 |
| pupnik | ah | 03:45 |
| Esworp | something is up with my browser... trying to download a .deb file results it no option to 'open' and a looping download progress indicator | 03:48 |
| pupnik | df | 03:48 |
| timeless | anyone here have an n800 and a bluetooth device? | 03:53 |
| timeless | bug 220 wants someone to check | 03:53 |
| _Monkey | Bug 220 might be found at https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=220 | 03:53 |
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| milhouse | so annoying when bug reporters disappear from the face of the earth - i'd be tempted to close the bug through lack of interest. :) (unfortunately I don't have a BT dongle, or even a Mac...) | 04:02 |
| timeless | better to just get into the habbit of treating bugs as drive by reports | 04:02 |
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| * timeless sighs | 04:03 | |
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| timeless | personally what i hate more is this very annoying spammer who spammed most 2007 bugs w/ a, ITOS2007HE-garage keyword and corrupted their url fields | 04:03 |
| milhouse | although the delays between bug opening and request for additional info don't exactly help... | 04:03 |
| * timeless wonders if the spammer got permission to log in again | 04:03 | |
| milhouse | timeless: aha... speak to mr gil about that :) | 04:04 |
| milhouse | timeless: word is, he is/was legit | 04:04 |
| timeless | i yanked the user's login account on vacation | 04:04 |
| milhouse | haha | 04:04 |
| timeless | failure to respond to a direct threat and continued to abuse bugzilla | 04:04 |
| timeless | sorry, doing that will lose your login | 04:04 |
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| milhouse | he did appear to be adding OS2007HE keywords somewhat blindly :( | 04:06 |
| timeless | bug 269 is depressing | 04:07 |
| _Monkey | Bug 269 might be found at https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269 | 04:07 |
| timeless | i don't mind the keyword | 04:07 |
| timeless | i object to corrupting the url field | 04:07 |
| timeless | which is not a freeform field | 04:07 |
| timeless | and i object to grand theft bug | 04:07 |
| timeless | which is what he did | 04:08 |
| timeless | oh great, my browser crashed | 04:08 |
| milhouse | wassup with 296 which is a dupe of 268? i added a comment to 268... (#5) :) | 04:09 |
| milhouse | 269 is a bit vague, i grant you - and perhaps even unreasonable/unrealistic | 04:09 |
| milhouse | but neither have anything to do with OS 2007HE :) | 04:10 |
| flip^ | repositories? | 04:12 |
| _Monkey | repositories is http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php | 04:12 |
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| timeless | did i pick the wrong bug? | 04:26 |
| timeless | comment 1 said | 04:27 |
| timeless | Gah, sorry for duplicating bug #268 by accident. | 04:27 |
| _Monkey | Bug 268 might be found at https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=268 | 04:27 |
| * timeless frowns | 04:28 | |
| timeless | someone should comment in 268 re c5 that you can turn off key clicks | 04:28 |
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| timeless | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=320#c4 | 04:32 |
| timeless | wanna fork that bug? | 04:33 |
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| timeless | can someone check bug 487? | 05:22 |
| _Monkey | Bug 487 might be found at https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=487 | 05:22 |
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| erstazi | timeless: I can look | 05:30 |
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| erstazi | timeless: I don't have audio on this box for me to test in scratchbox ): sorry | 05:30 |
| timeless | no audio?? | 05:31 |
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| erstazi | timeless: none | 05:39 |
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| sciboy | I have thick walls, hope the N800 will be able to pick up on the wifi signal. | 06:53 |
| Robdgreat | What's the preferred solution for scratchbox in windows? | 06:54 |
| Robdgreat | I have ubuntu in vmware but if there were some better way... | 06:54 |
| sciboy | I haven't tried but there's a vmware image | 06:54 |
| Robdgreat | ah ok | 06:54 |
| Robdgreat | ah yeah I seem to recall someone mentioning that | 06:55 |
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| GeneralAntilles | sciboy, the N800 has about the best wifi reception on any device ever. ;) | 07:09 |
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| |R | GeneralAntilles: agreed :) | 07:12 |
| sciboy | GeneralAntilles, Just hoping that's enough. | 07:12 |
| GeneralAntilles | Well, it worked fine in my parents house with 1 wireless router, and lots of lead paint and plaster. ;) | 07:13 |
| sciboy | Doesn't make it through the last wall for all my devices. | 07:13 |
| sciboy | Although you go to the door and reception is perfect. | 07:13 |
| sciboy | I have a WiFi AP with an 10m of ethernet taking advantage of that for my desktop pc. =P | 07:14 |
| GeneralAntilles | At worst, just go pick up another router for $40 and another run of Cat5. | 07:14 |
| sciboy | I already ate into my gadget budget with the N800. =P | 07:15 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Go sell some blood or something, then. :P | 07:15 |
| sciboy | Anyway it's just the last wall killing the reception, hopefully the N800 will get through it. | 07:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | Seems likely | 07:18 |
| GeneralAntilles | It picks up about 10 networks from my apartment, compared to 3 with my G5. | 07:18 |
| lopz | re | 07:19 |
| sciboy | Still haven't gotten an ETA for my order. =( | 07:22 |
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| sciboy | Oh cool, I failed to notice in my initial enquiry they said the delivery should take a few days since they're in stock. | 07:42 |
| sciboy | They should be able to confirm my bank transfer tomorrow. | 07:42 |
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| * |R is trying to figure out how to setup a dev env to cross compile some utils... | 08:59 | |
| * |R misses strings / md5sum ;) | 08:59 | |
| zoran | linux? | 09:00 |
| _Monkey | rumour has it linux is a free kernel thats inside most open source operating systems today and its a core technology for Maemo | 09:00 |
| |R | yep | 09:00 |
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| zoran | listed in /dev directory? | 09:00 |
| |R | what? | 09:01 |
| |R | no a development environment, not /dev :) | 09:01 |
| zoran | or you mean setting variable ENV? | 09:01 |
| |R | maemo 3.2 SDK | 09:01 |
| |R | or some such... | 09:01 |
| zoran | should be set in .bashrc or similar | 09:01 |
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| |R | zoran : what? :P i mean installing the whole thing... | 09:02 |
| zoran | hm | 09:03 |
| |R | http://maemo.org/development/sdks/maemo-3-x--bora-.html | 09:03 |
| |R | this | 09:03 |
| zoran | lemme c | 09:03 |
| zoran | there is install.txt | 09:04 |
| zoran | strange | 09:04 |
| |R | why? | 09:04 |
| zoran | I saw different manual for that | 09:04 |
| |R | any suggestions? :) | 09:04 |
| zoran | I recall downloading 3 or 4 files from the net | 09:05 |
| zoran | then just unziping them somewhere | 09:05 |
| zoran | and fine tutorial | 09:05 |
| |R | this tutorial seems painful... | 09:05 |
| zoran | I never installed it cause I have bsd box and it did not work | 09:05 |
| zoran | ah, yes, it differs from what I knew | 09:06 |
| zoran | after making new site, I cannot find what I want | 09:06 |
| zoran | and the tutorial was 1 ot more Mb | 09:06 |
| zoran | very large and informative | 09:06 |
| zoran | with steps to install and everything | 09:07 |
| zoran | maybe you could google for it? | 09:07 |
| |R | I'll look :) | 09:08 |
| zoran | k, found | 09:09 |
| zoran | tutorials/Maemo_tutorial_bora.html | 09:09 |
| |R | ? | 09:10 |
| |R | ah yes | 09:10 |
| zoran | development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_tutorial_bora.html | 09:10 |
| |R | i have it open already hehe :) | 09:10 |
| zoran | :) | 09:10 |
| zoran | good luck | 09:10 |
| |R | thanks :) | 09:11 |
| zoran | :) | 09:11 |
| |R | http://www.internettablettalk.com/wiki/index.php/Installing_Maemo_SDK_on_Scratchbox | 09:11 |
| |R | found this too | 09:11 |
| zoran | I had an idea to make just one thing: to recompiile the kernel | 09:11 |
| zoran | and to buy a white box and a lot of pain... | 09:12 |
| zoran | just dor stupid module | 09:12 |
| zoran | *for | 09:12 |
| zoran | I always expected from nokia repository of kernel modules | 09:12 |
| |R | hehe | 09:13 |
| zoran | I was so mad that I did not use 770 for months | 09:13 |
| zoran | my fault, I expected too much | 09:14 |
| zoran | btw, |R, do you have linux box handy? | 09:15 |
| |R | for? | 09:15 |
| zoran | I had a problem making files on usb flash | 09:16 |
| zoran | 8.3 problem | 09:16 |
| zoran | on freebsd I made it as msdos fs | 09:16 |
| zoran | and read it as vfat | 09:16 |
| zoran | on linux | 09:16 |
| zoran | I thought I should see it as long names | 09:16 |
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| |R | mkfs.dos ? | 09:19 |
| zoran | hm, vfat shoud read more than 8.3 | 09:20 |
| zoran | *should | 09:20 |
| zoran | it is brand new usb stick | 09:20 |
| |R | yep... you need joliet extensions maybe? | 09:22 |
| zoran | hm, I use it on making cd | 09:22 |
| zoran | to see it on windows boxes | 09:23 |
| |R | then i'm lost :| | 09:23 |
| zoran | but, this is newly bought flash | 09:23 |
| zoran | k :) | 09:23 |
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| |R | ok wtf, my scratchbox-core is too old according to the script... if i change it to 0.0.1 (min required) it still complains :P | 09:50 |
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| SenileBob | Is anyone interested in doing some commercial work for the N800? PM me for more details | 10:25 |
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| DRoBeR | Hello :) | 13:01 |
| sciboy | Hi. =D | 13:02 |
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| flip^ | ok, i reflashed my n800 so that i could start afresh, and so that i could fix my broken app manager... why is it that after half an hour of fiddling, after one of many occasions when i edit sources.list, the app manager is now broken again..... | 14:08 |
| * sciboy shrugs. | 14:13 | |
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| GeneralAntilles | You did something wrong? | 14:19 |
| GeneralAntilles | What's the log showing? | 14:19 |
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| Jiten_ | flip^: well, clearly, whatever you did that broke it the first time, you did again. | 14:48 |
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| Ar-ras | HI | 15:00 |
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| Ar-ras | Does somebody know how to install octave on N800 with IT OS 2007? | 15:00 |
| suihkulokki | Ar-ras: octave is a problem since it has some many dependencies | 15:01 |
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| Ar-ras | Do you mean that there are no ready compiled packages fpr IT OS 2007? | 15:04 |
| suihkulokki | yep | 15:10 |
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| Ar-ras | Is there somebody with the needed skill to compile it for N800? | 15:12 |
| Ar-ras | I would pay 25 Euro by paypal for a crosscompiled version. | 15:14 |
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| alterego | Cross compiled version of what? | 15:17 |
| Ar-ras | Ähm | 15:17 |
| alterego | No idea what that is :) | 15:17 |
| Ar-ras | :D | 15:17 |
| Ar-ras | If you take a source of a normal linux version | 15:18 |
| Ar-ras | and use header from the maemo sdk | 15:18 |
| Ar-ras | or something like that | 15:18 |
| Ar-ras | :D | 15:18 |
| Ar-ras | I want Octave for my N800, to use it for my chemistry study | 15:19 |
| Ar-ras | And I read that it would work on N800 | 15:19 |
| Ar-ras | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7724 | 15:19 |
| Ar-ras | but that packages seems to be incompatible with N800 | 15:20 |
| Ar-ras | i downloaded directly the arm.deb files | 15:20 |
| alterego | You could try installing it from the command line. | 15:20 |
| alterego | 'dpkg -i package.deb` | 15:21 |
| Ar-ras | so i change with xterm to the memory card and run that? | 15:22 |
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| Ar-ras | alterego i need root access | 15:26 |
| Ar-ras | so i use sudo | 15:26 |
| Ar-ras | what is the password? | 15:26 |
| _Monkey | the password is probably "rootme" (change it instantly) | 15:26 |
| alterego | the root password is rootme | 15:26 |
| alterego | :) | 15:26 |
| Ar-ras | ok | 15:26 |
| Ar-ras | :) | 15:26 |
| Ar-ras | lol "Sorry, try again" | 15:27 |
| alterego | Don't use sudo | 15:27 |
| alterego | use su | 15:27 |
| Ar-ras | ok | 15:27 |
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| Ar-ras | "su: applet requires root privileges!" | 15:29 |
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| alterego | Look for a tutorial on gaining root access. | 15:29 |
| alterego | There's on on the wiki | 15:29 |
| alterego | gainroot | 15:29 |
| _Monkey | gainroot is a quick howto to become root here http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_EASILY_BecomeRoot and more information is here http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowDoiBecomeRoot | 15:29 |
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| Ar-ras | ok | 15:41 |
| Ar-ras | got root by ssh | 15:41 |
| Ar-ras | 8) | 15:41 |
| Ar-ras | mmh | 15:43 |
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| Ar-ras | dpkg wants octave 2.9 | 15:43 |
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| SenileBob | Is anyone interested in doing some commercial work for the N800? PM me for more details | 16:19 |
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| Ar-ras | :S | 16:27 |
| Ar-ras | says that it doesnt accept because it is wrong platform | 16:28 |
| Ar-ras | arm and not armel | 16:28 |
| Ar-ras | :( | 16:28 |
| Ar-ras | does somebody has the correct packages? | 16:29 |
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| sciboy | Source fixes everything. | 17:06 |
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| Ar-ras | sciboy ? | 17:07 |
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| _Monkey | rumour has it sciboy is my username at gp32x | 17:07 |
| sciboy | Ar-ras ? | 17:08 |
| sciboy | .. | 17:08 |
| sciboy | sciboy ? | 17:08 |
| _Monkey | you are my username at gp32x? | 17:08 |
| sciboy | o_o | 17:08 |
| sciboy | Why did you choose that to quote me. | 17:08 |
| sciboy | sciboy is funny, tee hee hee. | 17:09 |
| sciboy | sciboy ? | 17:09 |
| _Monkey | you are my username at gp32x? | 17:09 |
| sciboy | sciboy ? | 17:09 |
| _Monkey | you are my username at gp32x? | 17:09 |
| sciboy | =( | 17:09 |
| zoran | bot | 17:09 |
| zoran | sciboy | 17:09 |
| _Monkey | i guess sciboy is my username at gp32x? | 17:09 |
| sciboy | zoran? | 17:09 |
| _Monkey | zoran is modest guy | 17:09 |
| zoran | kh-kh | 17:09 |
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| b0unc3 | hello ppl | 17:19 |
| Ar-ras | lol | 17:21 |
| zoran | people say hello | 17:21 |
| timeless | anyone here have a 770 handy | 17:31 |
| Ar-ras | nein das heißt mobile auf englisch | 17:31 |
| Ar-ras | und außerdem ist das kein handy | 17:31 |
| Ar-ras | :D | 17:32 |
| pupnik_ | haha | 17:32 |
| pupnik_ | i do | 17:32 |
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| zoran | handy == ready to use in this moment | 17:36 |
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| Ar-ras | hehe | 17:39 |
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| glaubervinicius | I am trying to use import evolution.ebook as evo at N800. When I do that, I´ve got ImportError: could not import evolution.ebook and ImportError: No module named evolution.ebook | 17:41 |
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| Ar-ras | does somebody uses octave? | 17:42 |
| glaubervinicius | what packages must i have to install? | 17:42 |
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| zoran | someone has any kingston usb flash stick? mine is probably preformatted to fat16. shows 8.3 names. unbielavable | 17:59 |
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| glaubervinicius | anyone can help me with import evolution? | 18:04 |
| pupnik | glaubervinicius: what is url of this package 'import evolution'? | 18:04 |
| zoran | I found greenbirdsystems.com/evolution-python; is it your app? | 18:05 |
| glaubervinicius | pupnik, i have used http://www.conduit-project.org/wiki/evolution-python | 18:06 |
| glaubervinicius | pupnik, i hav installed from this repository http://maemo.o-hand.com/packages | 18:06 |
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| glaubervinicius | zoran, i this link is broke | 18:08 |
| zoran | hm, I opened it few secs before | 18:09 |
| zoran | add www | 18:09 |
| pupnik | http://www.o-hand.com/ perhaps you should contact these people directly, glaubervinicius | 18:10 |
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| glaubervinicius | ok pupnik, i will try | 18:11 |
| pupnik | glaubervinicius: also you can try to install packages ignoring dependencies, using dpkg -i <packagename> | 18:11 |
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| pupnik | repositories | 18:14 |
| _Monkey | somebody said repositories was http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php | 18:14 |
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| pupnik | evolution looks like an interesting PIM suite | 18:16 |
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| pupnik | Tak|work: around? | 18:32 |
| pupnik | Tak|work: fceu main.c has a default soundrate of 48000 long soundrate=48000;, this variable gets passed to fceu engine for sound emu - i found not much difference lowering it - but it should be at 8192 i think. I also found that soundbufsize gets passed to fceu engine long soundbufsize=24; and increasing it to around 512 reduced skipping | 18:35 |
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| pupnik | wb zerojay | 18:39 |
| Ar-ras | does somebody get octave working on N800? | 18:39 |
| guardian_ | what's octave? | 18:43 |
| _Monkey | octave is a problem since it has some many dependencies | 18:43 |
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| Ar-ras | octave = matLab Clone | 18:43 |
| zerojay | pupnik: Thanks. | 18:43 |
| guardian_ | ok thx | 18:44 |
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| * flip^ grimaces at mention of matlab | 18:44 | |
| guardian | yeah same here :) | 18:44 |
| guardian | makes me immediately thinks it doesn't mix with handhelds :) | 18:44 |
| Ar-ras | :( | 18:45 |
| celesteh | _Monkey: Octave is a matlab clone | 18:45 |
| _Monkey | ...but octave is a problem since it has some many dependencies... | 18:45 |
| celesteh | _Monkey, forget octave | 18:46 |
| _Monkey | celesteh: I forgot octave | 18:46 |
| celesteh | _Monkey: Octave is a matlab clone that can be a problem because it has so many dependencies | 18:46 |
| _Monkey | OK, celesteh. | 18:46 |
| Ar-ras | octave? | 18:46 |
| _Monkey | octave is a matlab clone that can be a problem because it has so many dependencies | 18:46 |
| zoran | app catalog 2006 shows 4 deps | 18:47 |
| zoran | armin-varda/de/arno | 18:47 |
| Ar-ras | ? what does that mean? | 18:47 |
| celesteh | Octave? | 18:47 |
| _Monkey | Octave is a matlab clone that can be a problem because it has so many dependencies | 18:47 |
| celesteh | _Monkey? | 18:47 |
| _Monkey | celesteh? | 18:47 |
| zoran | repository for 2006; | 18:47 |
| zoran | if lucky, maybve works for 2007 | 18:48 |
| zoran | btw, do you have some binaty for octave? | 18:48 |
| zoran | *binary | 18:48 |
| zoran | whyly@gmx.net is a contact | 18:49 |
| Ar-ras | zoran | 18:49 |
| zoran | huh | 18:49 |
| Ar-ras | i dont found compatible binary# | 18:49 |
| zoran | ask the man | 18:50 |
| zoran | whyly | 18:50 |
| Ar-ras | wrote a mail to him | 18:50 |
| Ar-ras | no answer till now | 18:50 |
| Ar-ras | but if i could find the 2006 binaries... | 18:50 |
| Ar-ras | but dont know where they are :(+ | 18:50 |
| Ar-ras | just found some arm but not armel binaries | 18:51 |
| zoran | maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog2006 | 18:51 |
| zoran | I heard that there is a diff | 18:51 |
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| Ar-ras | diff in what? | 18:52 |
| zoran | arm vs armel or else | 18:54 |
| zoran | dunno | 18:54 |
| Ar-ras | yeah | 18:56 |
| Ar-ras | that are armel binaries | 18:56 |
| zoran | should it be arm for n800? | 18:57 |
| Ar-ras | no | 18:58 |
| Ar-ras | armel is correct | 18:58 |
| Ar-ras | it installed | 18:59 |
| Ar-ras | but | 18:59 |
| Ar-ras | i cant find it in the "start menu" | 18:59 |
| zoran | see the list of 4 dependencies | 18:59 |
| zoran | no big deal :) | 18:59 |
| zoran | call it from command line | 18:59 |
| zoran | octave &; exit | 18:59 |
| pupnik | want demos of the OMAP 3430 doing OpenGL graphics? http://www.imgtec.com/PowerVR/insider/Demos/index.asp | 19:00 |
| pupnik | (mpeg video) | 19:00 |
| Ar-ras | hehe i have installed octave | 19:01 |
| pupnik | not technically the omap though still - same gpu | 19:01 |
| Ar-ras | but now it is to complicated for me :D | 19:01 |
| zoran | nothing is too complicated for n800 user! | 19:02 |
| Ar-ras | hehe | 19:02 |
| Ar-ras | but i thought it would have a gui | 19:02 |
| zoran | what it is in deed? | 19:02 |
| Ar-ras | it should be a CAS | 19:03 |
| Ar-ras | Computer Algebra System | 19:03 |
| Ar-ras | I thought so ... | 19:03 |
| zoran | hm, like it with lemon | 19:03 |
| Ar-ras | uh | 19:03 |
| zoran | does it work for you now? | 19:04 |
| Ar-ras | lemon is CAS for N800? | 19:04 |
| Ar-ras | it is a buggy shell :S | 19:04 |
| zoran | standard xterm or maemo-hackers' one? | 19:04 |
| Ar-ras | xterm from maemo-hackers repo | 19:05 |
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| zoran | shell is ash | 19:05 |
| zoran | if you could install bash and call it from prompt: "bash" | 19:06 |
| Ar-ras | where is the prompt? | 19:06 |
| zoran | I had an issue making bash default via chsh | 19:06 |
| zoran | prompt? | 19:06 |
| zoran | the very first sign on the line | 19:06 |
| zoran | :) | 19:07 |
| Ar-ras | so | 19:07 |
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| Ar-ras | use xterm to start bash? | 19:07 |
| zoran | could be safer | 19:08 |
| zoran | just type bash | 19:08 |
| zoran | mothing else | 19:08 |
| Ar-ras | ? | 19:08 |
| Ar-ras | on N800? | 19:08 |
| zoran | if you have a prob with ash | 19:08 |
| zoran | why not? | 19:08 |
| zoran | you haev spare space as you liek | 19:08 |
| Ar-ras | and where is the command line? | 19:08 |
| zoran | on the xterm | 19:08 |
| Ar-ras | ok | 19:09 |
| zoran | what problem it shows? | 19:09 |
| zoran | I never saw it in action | 19:10 |
| Ar-ras | Do you know an alternative Program for using N800 as CAS? | 19:10 |
| zoran | bc? | 19:10 |
| Ar-ras | bc? is that the name of the program? | 19:11 |
| zoran | if you find one in perl and python, you could port it in a sec | 19:11 |
| zoran | yes, bc, in app cat 2006 | 19:11 |
| zoran | ah, no bc for 2007 | 19:12 |
| zoran | strange | 19:12 |
| zoran | k, found something called "maxima" for perl | 19:14 |
| Ar-ras | is there nothing with GUI? | 19:15 |
| zoran | hm | 19:16 |
| zoran | informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~graebe | 19:17 |
| Ar-ras | ? | 19:18 |
| zoran | link | 19:18 |
| zoran | folks, somebody had to reformat usb drive to handle long names? | 19:19 |
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| pupnik | anybody with n800 and fceu NES emulator installed want to test a tweaked version? i am curious to know if sound is better .. http://pupnik.de/fceu2_test.tgz | 19:19 |
| Ar-ras | zoran Why did you posted that link? | 19:20 |
| zoran | for you to take a look at math progs | 19:20 |
| |R | pupnik : i was testing for tak who fixed the flickering with button press and trying to recover the UI at startup but i didn't notice any problem with sound on my n800, so maybe i'm not the best tester for that :) | 19:20 |
| * zoran goes to see if dragons still use fire to burn | 19:21 | |
| Ar-ras | zoran I am from Leipzig | 19:21 |
| pupnik | |R: when music plays, you do not hear stuttering/slow music? | 19:22 |
| |R | no, the only thing slow is the video refresh | 19:23 |
| |R | well let me see, maybe i'm too tolerant and didn't notice brb :) | 19:23 |
| |R | (btw, anyone has their applet all unchecked after a screen sleep?!) | 19:24 |
| pupnik | zeez writes "Except for the sound stuttering a bit" | 19:24 |
| |R | nop, no stuttering here | 19:26 |
| |R | the applet thing is weird, if i reboot they come back, but in the menu they are all unchecked | 19:27 |
| |R | ... | 19:27 |
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| |R | is there anything special to know to change the logos in: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/hildon | 19:35 |
| lopz | hi | 19:35 |
| |R | (are they signed somewhere? keep same resolution? special formats? | 19:35 |
| |R | ) | 19:35 |
| pupnik | copy them to pc and examine | 19:41 |
| |R | that's what i've done, just wondering if there is any counter indications ;) | 19:41 |
| |R | don't want to reinstall everything just because i changed the bootup screen :P | 19:41 |
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| Fatal | \o/ my old craptastic nokia syncs with ntp now | 20:14 |
| Fatal | whoops | 20:14 |
| Fatal | wrong channel :P | 20:14 |
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| hillct | Good afternoon all | 20:40 |
| hillct | I'm trying to find a build of the Nano editor for the n800 | 20:40 |
| hillct | One was listed at maemo.com but the link is aparently no good | 20:41 |
| pupnik | searched gronmayer? | 20:41 |
| pupnik | repositories | 20:41 |
| _Monkey | repositories is http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php | 20:41 |
| hillct | thanks | 20:41 |
| hillct | checking | 20:41 |
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| hillct | same result. it says 'nano' is in the maemo 3.0 repository but it simply isn't there | 20:48 |
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| hillct | ie, doesn't show up in the installable apps list when that repo is added (I already had it) | 20:49 |
| pupnik | the packager should be informed of this | 20:50 |
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| hillct | K | 20:52 |
| pupnik | i don't have a local copy for you sorry | 20:52 |
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| hillct | pupnik: np. Tanks for the guidance. Perhaps this is a good oportunity for me to grab the SDB and learn how to build and package for the N800 | 20:58 |
| hillct | from the docs, it appears the toolchain is well defined and the packaging is streight forward .deb more or less | 20:59 |
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| hillct | pupnik: FYI this thread seems to discuss the nano problem. I guess it's just not in a repo as it should be http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-5627.html | 21:29 |
| hillct | I haven't tried the package from the indicated source though (yet) | 21:29 |
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| Gruessle | Hi I am shopping for an SD card and was wondering if I am limited to 4G HDSC or if I could go to 8GB or even 16GB | 21:52 |
| TPC | 8GB is the limit | 21:54 |
| TPC | I think I read somewhere that 16GB will be supported in future firmwares, but I could be mistaken about that | 21:54 |
| Gruessle | Where can I verify that? | 21:55 |
| TPC | searching on http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/ would be a good place to start | 21:56 |
| Gruessle | OK thanks, I will | 21:56 |
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| Jiten_ | I thought SDHC standard goes way higher than 8GB. Sounds kind of like artificial limitation. | 22:19 |
| zerojay | They probably only had 8GB cards to test with. | 22:21 |
| zerojay | It's not like 16GB cards are easy to find. | 22:21 |
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| Jiten_ | then again, I haven't even tried anything over 2GB in my n800 yet. | 22:26 |
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| ericz | my dropbear ssh client is giving "Segmentation fault" :( | 22:29 |
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| dick-richardson | how do I find the local ip my n800 has? | 22:39 |
| alterego | The connection manager has that, | 22:43 |
| alterego | "Connection Manager" (Menu) -> "Internet connection" -> "IP Address" | 22:44 |
| ericz | ssh + xmms-shell in xterm on the 770 makes a decent stereo remote for my server connected to speakers/TV :P | 22:45 |
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| alterego | I'd probably wrap that up in a slim web app : | 22:46 |
| ericz | hrmm | 22:47 |
| ericz | i do know PHP, but it'd be awkward, since i suck at php.. | 22:47 |
| alterego | :) | 22:47 |
| alterego | I used to write CGI scripts in sh :P | 22:47 |
| alterego | You don't have to use PHP. | 22:47 |
| ericz | heh, i'd have a bunch of php system() commands | 22:47 |
| DRoBeR | Who of you tried an "OpenVPN client" under N800? :) | 22:49 |
| pupnik | ericz: re ssh+xterm i think there are projects aiming for a gui remote for music | 22:49 |
| alterego | ericz, if that was all you were doing then maybe you should do it in bash or whatever ;) | 22:49 |
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| ericz | just setup shoutcast. | 22:59 |
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| DRoBeR | "SBOX_CPUTRANSPARENCY_METHOD" what is that variable? | 23:10 |
| DRoBeR | It says that I need to define it... | 23:10 |
| Gruessle | Are there any GPS devices you can recommend. I saw a link to a 29.99 device in the form once but can't find it anymore | 23:12 |
| Gruessle | forum | 23:13 |
| flip^ | anyone else found that with the latest flash, the application launcher crashes every so often just at the end of an installation? | 23:13 |
| dpryo | I've got a $30 usb-gps thing, works nicely | 23:13 |
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| Gruessle | where did you get it and why did you get usb vs blue | 23:14 |
| dpryo | But i'd recommend a bluetooth type, due to impractical usb-connectors on 770/800 :) | 23:14 |
| Gruessle | That's what I thought | 23:14 |
| dpryo | Some local store, nothing special about it | 23:14 |
| Gruessle | ok thanks | 23:14 |
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| dick-richardson | alterego: thank you! | 23:25 |
| alterego | :) | 23:27 |
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| glaubervinicius | has anyone had .deb of evolution-python-0.0.4 for armel? | 23:30 |
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| dick-richardson | where do I find the 'route' command? | 23:40 |
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| disq | in /sbin? | 23:46 |
| lmoura | glaubervinicius, check easy's mailing list (google groups) | 23:46 |
| lmoura | I sent an early version there | 23:47 |
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| glaubervinicius | lmoura, what is the google group name? | 23:50 |
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| dick-richardson | disq: there it is...wasn't in my path | 23:53 |
| dick-richardson | thank you | 23:53 |
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| glaubervinicius | lmoura, i have not found the easy group at google. | 23:59 |
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