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| disq | zerojay: there? got some info about jvms in 3650/7650 for you | 01:41 |
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| zerojay | disq: I am. | 02:16 |
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| disq | he said they were using an image pool for image objects.. because.. let me open the log | 02:16 |
| zerojay | disq: The problem on those phones is that they leak memory each time you use GetResourceAsStream. | 02:16 |
| disq | who's he you'll say, my friend | 02:16 |
| t_s_o | interesting, my 770 have started to spontaniusly reboot and lock in a early reboot cycle until i pull the battery... | 02:16 |
| disq | apparently it loads the image object's data in OS's heap so when you destroy the object the memory can't be reused | 02:17 |
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| zerojay | Thanks anyways... we long ago decided we won't support those two because of the bug. | 02:19 |
| zerojay | Still interesting to get an answer on that. Thanks. | 02:19 |
| disq | the 3650 was very popular here in turkey so i guess they did some more investigation :) | 02:21 |
| zerojay | Oh, you poor bastards. | 02:22 |
| zerojay | lol | 02:22 |
| disq | i decided to get the 6120 classic btw | 02:22 |
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| zerojay | I think we got one of those in a week or two ago. | 02:22 |
| disq | the 6300 is good and looks nicer, and it's a few mms thinner and s40, but the 6120 has hsdpa and a camera flash and qvga video resolution | 02:22 |
| zerojay | Yeah, it looks like a solid phone. | 02:23 |
| disq | he also assured me symbian is not like what it used to be, that it works fast and fine now, etc | 02:24 |
| disq | i had crazy problems with the 6600, like alarms not going off and such | 02:24 |
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| disq | in fact they say the 6120/6121 are the smallest s60 phones you can get | 02:25 |
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| zerojay | My wife has a 6101... she was excited about being able to play our games on it... until our publisher decided that we won't be putting our games out on t-mobile in the US. ("Too small," they said.) | 02:28 |
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| disq | uh | 02:30 |
| zerojay | shitty little phone. lol | 02:34 |
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| satd | any1 know how i can install hamachi into n770? | 03:00 |
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| Tb0n3 | so, is it just me or is the 770's lcd too sensitive to pressure | 03:19 |
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| Tb0n3 | it's like I'm pressing on my laptop screen | 03:20 |
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| satd | if i am trying to access n770 by ssh | 03:28 |
| satd | what is the default user id and pass? | 03:28 |
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| esworp | ok folks... time to help me drink the Kool-Aid... | 03:31 |
| esworp | I'm totally sick of my lifedrive, and am on the fence about getting a n800. | 03:31 |
| esworp | but my trepidation stems from that fact that I'm not sur eif the n800/maemo can offe a suitable calendar/datebook app. | 03:32 |
| esworp | any thoughts? | 03:34 |
| zerojay | There's none from Nokia themselves. | 03:34 |
| zerojay | But there are 3rd party apps for it. | 03:34 |
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| satd | how do change to root | 03:44 |
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| satd | in xterm it says i am user | 03:45 |
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| esworp | not to be a nancy, but did anyone catch my earlier question about battery life? | 03:58 |
| zerojay | Putting yourself into offline mode does save battery, sure. | 03:58 |
| zerojay | Turning off bluetooth if you aren't using it helps also. | 03:59 |
| esworp | would you say it goes from 3(ish) hours to 5(ish)? | 04:00 |
| zerojay | Hard to say, but I would say that it sounds about right. It really kind of depends on how actively you are using the tablet. | 04:01 |
| zerojay | It'll last pretty much all day with Wifi on if you aren't really using it much. | 04:01 |
| esworp | gotcha. (obviously) I'm looking to use it as a bigass PDA. | 04:01 |
| zerojay | Yeah, but it's not a PDA, so you might find yourself disappointed. | 04:02 |
| esworp | i understand. I'm looking for what it is (internet tablett thingy), plus a datebook. | 04:02 |
| esworp | I'm migrating /from/ a llifedrive, so I use + | 04:02 |
| esworp | oops | 04:02 |
| zerojay | I don't know it. Never used it. | 04:02 |
| esworp | so i use what I have now as a mdeia dingus and a organizer | 04:03 |
| esworp | I /think/ I'd be happy with it, providing the datebook app choices are decent. | 04:03 |
| zerojay | As far as I know, GPE's pretty good. | 04:05 |
| zerojay | I don't really use it so... | 04:05 |
| zerojay | There's another one too.. | 04:06 |
| esworp | hopefully I'll bump into someone who has/does. | 04:06 |
| zerojay | It's generally well regarded. | 04:06 |
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| satd | how do i get root access? | 04:10 |
| zerojay | Why do you need root access? | 04:10 |
| satd | to install hamachi | 04:10 |
| Tb0n3 | how does one xvid canola? | 04:10 |
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| gnuite | If I upgrade my app to use libconic, will it work on the 770? | 04:21 |
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| kupesoft | When's chinook due? | 04:36 |
| gnuite | Why is there no x86 version of libconic0? | 04:38 |
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| satd | can some1 here help me with n770 | 05:03 |
| satd | and installing hamachi | 05:03 |
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| SenileBob | Has anyone tried removing functionality from the N800, such as media playback? And adding just their own software to it? Like a kiosk mode? | 06:57 |
| pupnik | you can add a program to startup script that will run full screen | 07:04 |
| pupnik | as far as kiosk mode... depends if you want to prevent users with device in-hand from accessing the OS completely | 07:06 |
| pupnik | in which case you have to disable the 'home' and 'power' buttons while your app is running | 07:06 |
| pupnik | Also for your kiosk mode home controller you'll need to implement code, or at least calls, to connect to your wlan without allowing user access to the os | 07:07 |
| pupnik | i guess that's obvious | 07:08 |
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| unique311 | trevarthan: | 07:20 |
| unique311 | you got a minute? | 07:20 |
| unique311 | really anyone that knows python pretty well | 07:21 |
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| SenileBob | pupnik: thanks for the replies, i stepped out for a few minutes... | 08:07 |
| SenileBob | could kiosk mode be done so that the web browser and wlan setup apps still can be launched, but nothing else other than a custom app? | 08:08 |
| SenileBob | and can the app handle hard button presses such as home, and do something when the buttons are pressed, like go to a home screen? | 08:08 |
| pupnik | i think you might be able to do 1) | 08:17 |
| SenileBob | great, and 2)? :D | 08:17 |
| pupnik | re 2) all the buttons except home key are visible to your app | 08:18 |
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| pupnik | or let me put it this way - i haven't seen any apps that re-map what the home key does | 08:18 |
| disq | morning | 08:18 |
| _Monkey | aloha | 08:18 |
| SenileBob | ok, but it MIGHT still be possible | 08:18 |
| disq | seen powerlaunch? it's exciting stuff | 08:18 |
| _Monkey | I haven't seen 'powerlaunch', disq | 08:18 |
| pupnik | ho | 08:18 |
| disq | shut up _Monkey | 08:19 |
| pupnik | yes definitely | 08:19 |
| pupnik | definitely possible for /supergeek/ | 08:19 |
| SenileBob | ok, sounds like the N800 can do what i need | 08:20 |
| SenileBob | I have one company getting me a quote, but if anyone else is interested in doing some N800 programming for us, please let me know! :) | 08:22 |
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| pupnik | I don't trust my own quotes much less those of others | 08:37 |
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| jani | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/symbian_debugging.jpg =) | 10:14 |
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| zwnj | does kernel of version 2007.4 support SDHC? | 10:58 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:08 |
| Jaffa | zwnj: yes | 11:08 |
| zwnj | perfect | 11:08 |
| zwnj | thanks Jaffa :) | 11:08 |
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| edistar | is the release of OS2007 for the n770 useable? | 11:15 |
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| disq | Jaffa: check out powerlaunch (thread in maemo-users) it's genius | 11:29 |
| disq | _Monkey: powerlaunch is http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/users/28243 | 11:30 |
| _Monkey | OK, disq. | 11:30 |
| edistar | where do I find information how to (re-)flash my n770? | 11:31 |
| edistar | while I was installing openssh-common it deinstalled everything that had to do with osso* so I am left with nearly nothing | 11:31 |
| disq | uh | 11:31 |
| disq | ITT should have some thread, but it's actually pretty straightforward | 11:32 |
| disq | get the flasher binary, get the firmware from http://tablet-dev.maemo.org/ and follow instructions | 11:33 |
| edistar | disq: ok http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_flashlatestnokiaimagewithlinux/ this correct? | 11:33 |
| disq | the commandline parameters etc are accurate yes | 11:34 |
| edistar | disq: thx | 11:34 |
| disq | but download the _latest_ OS2006 image (follow the link there, maemo.org/downloads/770) instead | 11:34 |
| disq | erm, looks like tablet-dev doesn't have the firmware images btw i was wrong | 11:34 |
| edistar | disq: do you think the os2007_hacker_edition is stable enough for a bit of surfing around? | 11:35 |
| disq | never used it, but afaik it is pretty much usable. except for the cover, afaik it won't go into standby with the cover on | 11:36 |
| edistar | disq, thats quite annoying... | 11:37 |
| edistar | I'll test | 11:38 |
| disq | in n800, mce has a "softpoweroff" mode that you can use, to turn the screen and keypad events off | 11:38 |
| disq | saves quite a lot of power | 11:38 |
| edistar | mce? | 11:39 |
| disq | maybe it could also work with 770, you should check out /etc/mce/mce.ini and /etc/systemui/ | 11:39 |
| edistar | disq: ok, I'll check, sounds quite interesting | 11:39 |
| disq | it's one of the programs that control the keypad/screen locking and that kind of things | 11:39 |
| disq | (softpoweroff doesn't exist in OS2006 tho) | 11:40 |
| edistar | disq: sounds nice though :) | 11:42 |
| edistar | I don't like the design of the n800 | 11:42 |
| GeneralAntilles | I keep hearing that, and I still don't understand it. | 11:44 |
| edistar | GeneralAntilles: I just love the metal sliding case :P | 11:44 |
| disq | ergonomically it's better (dpad location, better screen feeling, etc) but i too missed the 770's cover for a while when i first got it | 11:45 |
| edistar | GeneralAntilles: makes a much stronger impression | 11:45 |
| disq | not to mention the stupid design of the top buttons | 11:45 |
| disq | but you get used to both. | 11:45 |
| edistar | I suppose the hardware is better in the n800 :( screen too, but still, don't have that much money and I'm saving for a neo1973 ;) | 11:45 |
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| edistar | os2007 looks quite cool | 11:48 |
| edistar | the keyboard does ;) | 11:48 |
| disq | yep | 11:50 |
| edistar | it's really weird! | 11:50 |
| edistar | really have to get used to it.. | 11:50 |
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| disq | wonder why application_top (or top_application) doesn't work with kagu | 12:08 |
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| edistar | is canola released under gpl? | 12:12 |
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| disq | no | 12:21 |
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| Nai | good morning(~ugt) | 12:51 |
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| Nai | Any body can tell me . N700 or N770 which is correct? | 12:51 |
| inz | 770 | 12:52 |
| inz | without N | 12:52 |
| onion | Nai: it's 770.. no 'N' | 12:52 |
| Nai | Ya .thank you very much. | 12:53 |
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| Test_ | good morning(~ugt) | 12:54 |
| inz | disq, maybe it doesn't handle the top_application dbus method call? | 12:56 |
| disq | inz: isn't matchbox supposed to switch to the application? | 12:56 |
| disq | though i think it's not involved | 12:57 |
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| inz | disq, osso_application_top() sends a dbus message to the service and it's up to that service to top itself. | 12:58 |
| inz | disq, so matchbox is only involved once the topped service calls window_present or something alike | 12:59 |
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| disq | okay thanks | 13:00 |
| disq | check out powerlaunch btw :P | 13:00 |
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| Big_B | Hi lardman!!!!!!!!! | 13:01 |
| _Monkey | hi lardman are you here!! | 13:01 |
| lardman | morning | 13:02 |
| _Monkey | aloha | 13:02 |
| lardman | disq: Any screenshots of PowerLaunch? | 13:02 |
| disq | the auther didn't provide any, but it's just a window with a cancel button on it | 13:03 |
| lardman | and that replaces the maemo desktop? | 13:03 |
| disq | there's a glade file with multiple "windows" though and you can change it to suit your needs | 13:04 |
| disq | no. not the desktop | 13:04 |
| disq | _Monkey: powerlaunch? | 13:04 |
| _Monkey | rumour has it powerlaunch is http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/users/28243 | 13:04 |
| lardman | _Monkey: I never thought I'd say it, but thanks, you've been useful ;) | 13:04 |
| _Monkey | de nada lardman | 13:04 |
| lardman | disq: ah, I see | 13:05 |
| disq | having softpoweroff with keypad enabled (and being able to macro it easily) is really nice for media playback | 13:06 |
| inz | disq, so it implements systemui powerkeymenu and claims to replace it? | 13:06 |
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| inz | s/it/systemui/ | 13:06 |
| infobot | inz meant: disq, so systemui implements systemui powerkeymenu and claims to replace it? | 13:06 |
| disq | yeah | 13:06 |
| inz | grr | 13:06 |
| disq | you can make multiple powerkeymenus and switch thru them etc | 13:06 |
| inz | But you lose alarm, "charging mode"... | 13:07 |
| disq | put buttons on there to run stuff/change settings. or just configure key macros | 13:07 |
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| disq | afaik systemui is the powerkeymenu, nothing else | 13:07 |
| inz | false | 13:07 |
| inz | ls /usr/lib/systemui | 13:07 |
| disq | also, it doesn't replace it. it provides an alternative for it. you stop systemui and run powerlaunch at startup | 13:08 |
| disq | so systemui binary is still tehre | 13:08 |
| disq | there even | 13:08 |
| inz | Hmm, I wonder if it's guaranteed that you may "spy" method_calls like that | 13:09 |
| disq | not sure what will happen if i disable systemui in init.d and run powerlaunch instead | 13:09 |
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| lardman | hmm, I thought people had concluded that there'd be a software update today, based on the comment in the bugtracker | 13:40 |
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| inz | where? | 13:41 |
| lardman | in the bug for the SD card problems | 13:42 |
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| lardman | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1204 comment #112 | 13:44 |
| lardman | #109 actually | 13:44 |
| inz | Umh, there indeed seems to be a "planned" release date | 13:51 |
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| Jaffa | I'd be surprised (and impressed) if it was a Chinook-based IT OS, rather than basically a kernel patch for the SDHC issue | 14:02 |
| lardman | true | 14:04 |
| lardman | I wonder if the new tablet will be chinook based though, and that's presumably not too far off (though a couple of months is a fair time I suppose) | 14:05 |
| disq | i'm guessing so | 14:05 |
| atul | hi | 14:08 |
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| Jaffa | Ah, there's info on it already available. It's another 4.2007 version containing just the SDHC fix | 14:13 |
| Jaffa | lardman: agreed | 14:13 |
| Jaffa | http://europe.nokia.com/link?cid=PLAIN_TEXT_80293 | 14:13 |
| lardman | oh, so nothing except the fix | 14:13 |
| lardman | oh well | 14:14 |
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| lardman | Presumably the kernel fix won't have removed any symbols - just thinking about flashing it on its own to avoid needing to re-install everything | 14:17 |
| disq | yeah i'd like to do that too | 14:20 |
| lardman | hmm, doesn't look like the new one is on maemo.org yet | 14:20 |
| lardman | 4.2007.26-8 is the latest one | 14:21 |
| lardman | on here rather: http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N800.php | 14:21 |
| pupnik | it appears i don't need any active scripts on a website to make a debian repo | 14:24 |
| pupnik | just proper structure and files | 14:24 |
| disq | yep | 14:25 |
| pupnik | ok i didn't know that | 14:26 |
| pupnik | thought i couldn't host a repo on my simple webhost | 14:27 |
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| lardman | see you chaps later | 14:51 |
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| disq | RX-34_2007SE_4.2007.38-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin up at http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ | 15:24 |
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| disq | surprised i'm the one that found about it first | 15:24 |
| Veggen | hmm. if it works, perhaps I should finally get an 8 GB card or two myself... | 15:25 |
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| atul | hi | 15:36 |
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| atul | hi | 15:50 |
| _Monkey | bonjour, atul | 15:51 |
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| atul | hi i want to know how to sest audio on the emulator | 15:51 |
| atul | i want to set audio for Xephyr using Maemo | 15:51 |
| atul | hello _Monkey | 15:52 |
| _Monkey | niihau, atul | 15:52 |
| atul | plz reply | 15:52 |
| atul | me | 15:52 |
| gla55_ | maybe nobody is just here now | 15:53 |
| Veggen | ..or nobody that knows the answer ;) | 15:53 |
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| atul | exit | 16:01 |
| atul | exit | 16:01 |
| atul | ok | 16:01 |
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| eichi | do i ned a special kernel for nfs server and client on n800 ? | 16:32 |
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| b0unc3 | eichi: yes | 16:34 |
| satd | hey | 16:35 |
| satd | need help | 16:35 |
| satd | trying to install hamachi on n770 | 16:35 |
| satd | i was told to install as root | 16:36 |
| satd | when i do sudo ./install | 16:36 |
| eichi | b0unc3: cant i use only a module for it? | 16:36 |
| satd | it comes up with error | 16:36 |
| b0unc3 | eichi: yes, of course | 16:36 |
| b0unc3 | satd: on the tablet ? | 16:36 |
| satd | Sorry, user user is not allowed to execute ./install as root on Nokida770 | 16:36 |
| satd | yea on the tablet | 16:36 |
| pakos_ | satd: are there hamachi binaries for the N770? :-o | 16:37 |
| satd | yea | 16:37 |
| satd | http://files.hamachi.cc/linux/nokia-770/ | 16:37 |
| eichi | b0unc3: than its great ;) i dont want to work with the kernel itself :P - to much stress | 16:37 |
| pakos_ | satd: wow, didn't know that, thanks | 16:38 |
| b0unc3 | satd: ;) | 16:38 |
| b0unc3 | ops.. eichi :) | 16:38 |
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| satd | now i need help installing it | 16:40 |
| satd | :D | 16:40 |
| pakos_ | :) if i understand you correctly, you need to get root somehow, right? | 16:41 |
| X-Fade | Did anybody see a Changelog for the new N800 firmware? | 16:42 |
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| satd | yea | 16:43 |
| Veggen | X-Fade: according to http://europe.nokia.com/link?cid=PLAIN_TEXT_80293 it's only 8GB card fix. | 16:43 |
| satd | Run './install' and then 'tuncfg' from under the root account | 16:43 |
| satd | Run 'hamachi-init' to generate crypto identity (any account). | 16:43 |
| satd | Run 'hamachi start' to launch Hamachi daemon. | 16:43 |
| satd | Run 'hamachi login' to put the daemon online and to create an account. | 16:43 |
| satd | Run 'hamachi join <network>' to join the network. | 16:43 |
| satd | Run 'hamachi go-online <network>' to go online in the network. | 16:43 |
| satd | Run 'hamachi list' to list network members and their status. | 16:43 |
| ||cw | ... | 16:43 |
| X-Fade | Veggen: Yeah, I diffed the firmwares and I see some more changes though ;) | 16:44 |
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| inz | satd, http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowDoiBecomeRoot | 16:44 |
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| satd | all the gray box are empty for me... | 16:48 |
| satd | what browser should i be using | 16:48 |
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| pakos_ | satd: works fine with firefox 2.0.0.6, konqueror 3.5.7 and opera 9.23 (on kubuntu feisty) | 16:50 |
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| satd | i am on opera 9.23 | 16:52 |
| satd | and all the gray boxes are empty | 16:52 |
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| satd | i don't see no text in them.. | 16:52 |
| satd | shoud i enable something to see them.. | 16:52 |
| pakos_ | seems pretty standard html for me | 16:55 |
| pakos_ | satd: do you have a custom css? | 16:56 |
| b0unc3 | no problem with opera 9.23 here | 16:56 |
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| satd | no | 17:00 |
| satd | i don't have custom css | 17:00 |
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| eichi | someone knows, how to install nfs-common on maemo? it seems, that i need some perl extras as depency..someone knows? | 17:14 |
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| |R | http://web.media.mit.edu/~lifton/snippets/n800_to_sl/ <- some is having fun, i'll need to use this to have a streaming feed | 17:32 |
| |R | s/some/someone | 17:32 |
| pakos_ | does anyone know, if the opera browser of the n800 is npapi-compatible? | 17:33 |
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| eichi_n800 | damn apt-get install nfs-common will remove half of my system .... :) | 17:42 |
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| satd | how do i change folder in root | 18:13 |
| satd | to do this | 18:13 |
| satd | do i log in as root? | 18:13 |
| satd | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowDoiBecomeRoot | 18:13 |
| zoran | are u root in this moment? | 18:14 |
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| satd | yes | 18:20 |
| satd | its says nokia770-49# | 18:21 |
| satd | tried to install dropbear | 18:22 |
| satd | its says incompatible packages | 18:22 |
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| zoran | ah, you have to set repositories to get them via apt | 18:25 |
| zoran | why not openssh? | 18:26 |
| satd | i have run openssh | 18:27 |
| satd | Sorry, user user is not allowed to execute './install' as root on Nokia770-49. | 18:27 |
| zoran | it is good, as I see it | 18:27 |
| satd | what should i do | 18:28 |
| zoran | my 770 is bricked in this moment, so have to recall from memory | 18:28 |
| satd | i am trying to install hamachi | 18:28 |
| zoran | go out of this and find maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog2006 | 18:28 |
| satd | i did | 18:28 |
| zoran | so, open puts app in memory | 18:29 |
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| zoran | sudo starts up and lets you to do install | 18:29 |
| zoran | debian way would be to add repository and do "apt-get install my_app" | 18:30 |
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| satd | not sure what u mean.. | 18:30 |
| satd | i am lost | 18:30 |
| satd | never used linux anything but windows b4 | 18:30 |
| zoran | may I ask, what app u try to install? | 18:30 |
| zoran | remember, I have no 770 at my sight | 18:30 |
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| rik | anyone got the cpan module onto an N800? | 18:32 |
| satd | hamachi | 18:32 |
| _Monkey | hamachi is closed source, and there's not version for the ARM architecture, how did you get it to run ? | 18:32 |
| zoran | k, found, vpn app | 18:32 |
| red-zack | satd: hamachi for 770? | 18:33 |
| satd | is _Monkey a bot? | 18:33 |
| zoran | _Monkey talks, as I see | 18:33 |
| _Monkey | zoran: what? | 18:33 |
| zoran | :) | 18:33 |
| satd | ohh | 18:33 |
| satd | ha | 18:33 |
| zoran | what to answer? | 18:33 |
| satd | red-zack>>yes for 770 | 18:34 |
| zoran | _Monkey, found a link for that app | 18:34 |
| _Monkey | zoran: what? | 18:34 |
| satd | for what? | 18:34 |
| satd | hamachi? | 18:34 |
| _Monkey | hmmm... hamachi is closed source, and there's not version for the ARM architecture, how did you get it to run ? | 18:34 |
| red-zack | for hamachi? | 18:34 |
| zoran | hamachi | 18:34 |
| _Monkey | rumour has it hamachi is closed source, and there's not version for the ARM architecture, how did you get it to run | 18:34 |
| red-zack | show me | 18:34 |
| satd | Sorry, user user is not allowed to execute './install' as root on Nokia770-49. | 18:34 |
| zoran | sec | 18:34 |
| rik | _Monkey: forget hamachi | 18:34 |
| _Monkey | rik: I forgot hamachi | 18:34 |
| satd | http://files.hamachi.cc/linux/nokia-770/ | 18:35 |
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| zoran | mikesl300i.blogspot.com/2006/09/hamachi-vns-and-nokia-770.html | 18:35 |
| red-zack | satd: do you have any linux expirience? | 18:36 |
| satd | nope | 18:36 |
| red-zack | satd: forget hamachi | 18:36 |
| satd | y? | 18:36 |
| red-zack | y | 18:36 |
| red-zack | because you should compile it | 18:36 |
| zoran | 770 has no proper firewall, everything else is of no use | 18:36 |
| red-zack | yes, this is the other thing | 18:37 |
| satd | tar -zxvf hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx-n770.tar.gz | 18:37 |
| satd | did that | 18:37 |
| satd | and it unpacked into folder | 18:37 |
| red-zack | ok, this is extracting | 18:37 |
| red-zack | but u need to compile the source | 18:37 |
| zoran | on 770? | 18:37 |
| satd | ./install: 7: HAMACHI_DST: not found | 18:38 |
| satd | Copying hamachi into .. | 18:38 |
| satd | cp: unable to open `/usr/bin/hamachi': Permission denied | 18:38 |
| satd | chmod: /usr/bin/hamachi: No such file or directory | 18:38 |
| satd | Creating hamachi-init symlink .. | 18:38 |
| satd | ln: /usr/bin/hamachi-init: Permission denied | 18:38 |
| satd | Copying tuncfg into /sbin .. | 18:38 |
| satd | cp: unable to open `/sbin/tuncfg': Permission denied | 18:38 |
| red-zack | jesus.. | 18:38 |
| satd | chmod: /sbin/tuncfg: No such file or directory | 18:38 |
| satd | Hamachi is installed. See README for what to do next. | 18:38 |
| satd | thats what i get | 18:38 |
| satd | when i try into install it.. | 18:38 |
| zoran | we created monster! | 18:38 |
| satd | :P | 18:38 |
| zoran | would u "ls" | 18:39 |
| red-zack | we? u ;P | 18:39 |
| satd | ls in which folder | 18:39 |
| zoran | u just opened | 18:39 |
| satd | Nokia770-49:~/MyDocs/.documents/hamachi$ ls | 18:39 |
| satd | CHANGES LICENSE.openssl hamachi | 18:39 |
| satd | LICENSE LICENSE.tuncfg install | 18:39 |
| satd | LICENSE.openssh README tuncfg | 18:39 |
| zoran | btw, may I ask a question, stupid one? | 18:39 |
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| satd | no question is stupid question.. | 18:39 |
| satd | you may | 18:39 |
| red-zack | lol, many are ;) | 18:40 |
| satd | hahaha | 18:40 |
| zoran | how did u installed gregale? | 18:40 |
| satd | :S | 18:40 |
| satd | here comes stupid question..... | 18:40 |
| zoran | it is what I have to do next days | 18:40 |
| satd | what is gregale? | 18:40 |
| _Monkey | i guess gregale is something else entirely | 18:40 |
| zoran | 3.2006.49 | 18:40 |
| zoran | one needs linux or knoppix | 18:40 |
| satd | from windows | 18:40 |
| zoran | I have freebsd and nothing else | 18:41 |
| satd | with flasher.. | 18:41 |
| satd | OS version 3.2006.49-2 | 18:41 |
| satd | thats what i have | 18:41 |
| zoran | I have it on my hdd | 18:41 |
| zoran | do, it should reflash 770 | 18:42 |
| zoran | with flasher-2.0 | 18:42 |
| satd | y do i need to reflash it? | 18:42 |
| zoran | flsher needs linux libs | 18:42 |
| zoran | no, me | 18:42 |
| satd | ohhh | 18:42 |
| zoran | I made mistake and let shell go around | 18:42 |
| satd | is gregale is the OS? | 18:42 |
| zoran | no way to intercept it | 18:43 |
| zoran | yes | 18:43 |
| zoran | as I know | 18:43 |
| zoran | (not much) | 18:43 |
| b0unc3 | satd: gregale is the codename for the sdk... not for the firmware | 18:43 |
| satd | how do i install this hamachi? | 18:43 |
| zoran | one way could be to put bin on usb | 18:43 |
| zoran | ah, sorry | 18:43 |
| satd | thanks bounce | 18:43 |
| zoran | b0unc3, what would be repository then? | 18:44 |
| satd | bounce>know any way i can install this hamachi... | 18:44 |
| satd | been on this for 3 days | 18:44 |
| czr | anyone aware of any big snags with chinook (beta)? running the installer now. | 18:45 |
| b0unc3 | zoran: I use mistral and gregale on 770 with the latest firmware version | 18:46 |
| zoran | thanx | 18:46 |
| zoran | I found link to hamachi year ago, but goes nowhere | 18:46 |
| satd | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2009&page=2 | 18:47 |
| b0unc3 | satd: I have never installed hamachi... | 18:47 |
| zoran | name of poster was whyte tygre | 18:47 |
| zoran | satd, why do yo need exactly that? | 18:47 |
| zoran | b0unc3, how could I make "./flasher" if it is on ntfs partiotion? | 18:48 |
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| zoran | I could go to friend and ask him to start up knopoix for me | 18:49 |
| b0unc3 | zoran: why you have flasher on a ntfs partition? | 18:49 |
| zoran | I don't | 18:49 |
| zoran | I have some old knoppix in my nands | 18:49 |
| zoran | and freebsd on hdd | 18:50 |
| zoran | nothing more | 18:50 |
| zoran | no win, no linux | 18:50 |
| zoran | how to manage with friends box with win? | 18:50 |
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| zoran | nokia has some genuine flasher, I think | 18:50 |
| b0unc3 | I think you can run the flasher on freebsd | 18:50 |
| zoran | no, I cant | 18:51 |
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| b0unc3 | ah k | 18:51 |
| zoran | asks for linux libs | 18:51 |
| zoran | pain in the ..., with this libs dependencies | 18:51 |
| zoran | if I start live cd, where to put flasher and bin file? | 18:52 |
| zoran | usb stick could be the issue | 18:52 |
| czr | live cds run from RAM | 18:52 |
| zoran | mount usb stick and look at it to start flasher | 18:52 |
| zoran | yes :) | 18:52 |
| czr | so normally it's enough to put the flasher where ever you want (if you download it within the live cd session) | 18:53 |
| zoran | but flasher is on my fss hdd | 18:53 |
| czr | fss? | 18:53 |
| zoran | linux does not see fss partition | 18:53 |
| zoran | bsd file system | 18:53 |
| czr | ah. can't you redownload it? | 18:53 |
| czr | or just put it on FAT on an usb stick, or smt. | 18:53 |
| zoran | to ext2? | 18:53 |
| b0unc3 | zoran: yeah, put them on a pendrive and mount it without noexec | 18:53 |
| zoran | ah, usb 1.0 | 18:54 |
| zoran | but, nice answer | 18:54 |
| zoran | gonna try it when I have my usb back | 18:54 |
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| rik | cpan, anyone? | 18:55 |
| zoran | with lemone, please | 18:55 |
| rik | sure. | 18:55 |
| zoran | :) | 18:55 |
| rik | you tell me how to install it on my N800, and i'll bring the lemon | 18:55 |
| zoran | hm, install what? | 18:56 |
| GeneralAntilles | We get a real change-log yet on the new firmware? | 18:56 |
| zoran | cpan? | 18:56 |
| rik | the cpan modules. | 18:56 |
| rik | i just want ot get some perl modules working. | 18:56 |
| rik | yeah. | 18:56 |
| zoran | believe it or not, I just copu them to the device | 18:56 |
| rik | the modules? | 18:57 |
| zoran | cpan likes their own way, via make... | 18:57 |
| zoran | make test etc | 18:57 |
| rik | yup | 18:57 |
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| zoran | no diff, if you ask me | 18:57 |
| rik | http://flux.org.uk/projects/rackmonkey/ is what i'm trying to get working. | 18:57 |
| zoran | lemme c | 18:58 |
| wacky_ | Is there a SIP/IAX phone that can be plugged into an Asterisk box, ready to use on Maemo right now ? | 18:58 |
| rik | wacky_: top of the news. yes. | 18:58 |
| zoran | man | 18:58 |
| wacky_ | rik: what is it ? | 18:58 |
| zoran | there is some device to do just that | 18:58 |
| rik | wacky_: keeps track of assets in a data centre. | 18:59 |
| wacky_ | hmm.. I would have expected the name of a software project as an answer :) | 18:59 |
| zoran | httpd or smaller | 18:59 |
| wacky_ | did I miss something ? | 18:59 |
| zoran | rackmonkey | 18:59 |
| zoran | I would choose ssh rather | 19:00 |
| zoran | db could be the prob | 19:00 |
| rik | db is fine. it sues SQLite | 19:00 |
| zoran | memory enough? | 19:01 |
| rik | shoul dbe. | 19:01 |
| zoran | web serv, db... | 19:01 |
| zoran | sessions | 19:01 |
| rik | session. singluar. | 19:01 |
| zoran | u have to trim all modules and services you could | 19:01 |
| zoran | bt | 19:01 |
| zoran | I saw ad for litle device doing just that | 19:02 |
| zoran | linux journal, september, porb | 19:02 |
| rik | doesn't hel pme so much. | 19:03 |
| zoran | :) | 19:03 |
| zoran | k, make new directories for HTML, DB... | 19:03 |
| zoran | and let modules sleep there | 19:04 |
| zoran | in the path for perl | 19:04 |
| zoran | DBI driver | 19:04 |
| zoran | what is that? | 19:04 |
| rik | the non-database-specific DB access librayr for perl. | 19:04 |
| zoran | u have tiny web server in reps | 19:04 |
| zoran | rik, it could work! | 19:05 |
| zoran | all stuff u already have | 19:05 |
| zoran | how big it is and in what language is written? | 19:06 |
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| rik | perl. and not huge... | 19:06 |
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| zoran | k, about 60k | 19:06 |
| zoran | I c no data about auth method | 19:07 |
| Jaffa | ~ | 19:08 |
| * rik looks at the source. | 19:08 | |
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| zoran | requirements say nothing about auth | 19:09 |
| rik | that's why i'm looking at the source. | 19:09 |
| zoran | :) | 19:09 |
| zoran | I have a glass device, called a ball | 19:09 |
| zoran | nothing there, for now! :) | 19:09 |
| zoran | k, no auth | 19:09 |
| zoran | what call method? | 19:10 |
| zoran | or, what port? | 19:10 |
| rik | it's a cgi script. | 19:10 |
| zoran | ah!!! | 19:10 |
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| zoran | does it _really_ manages anuthing? | 19:11 |
| rik | i don't know. | 19:12 |
| zoran | or shows statistics? | 19:12 |
| rik | for the third time, this is why i'm looking at the source. | 19:12 |
| zoran | latter, probably | 19:12 |
| zoran | stats | 19:12 |
| zoran | you could telnet or netcat to any port and get all those data | 19:13 |
| zoran | telnet www.myweb.com 80 | 19:13 |
| zoran | get / http/1.0 | 19:13 |
| zoran | enter 2x | 19:13 |
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| rik | yup. looks likeit relies on the web server to authenticate, but not to authorise. doesn't look like there's much in the way of state. | 19:14 |
| zoran | so, let it go | 19:14 |
| zoran | (fish is too small) | 19:15 |
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| zoran | rik, how many boxes would you like to manage? | 19:16 |
| rik | not sure | 19:16 |
| rik | doesn't reall ymatter though. that data resides on disk | 19:16 |
| zoran | k, install "screen" | 19:16 |
| zoran | ssh to particular node | 19:16 |
| zoran | open in screen as many instances as you like | 19:17 |
| zoran | ssh to all of them | 19:17 |
| zoran | from 770 as a charm | 19:17 |
| zoran | could be tricky to use screen on 770, since it has no hw keyboard | 19:18 |
| rik | well | 19:18 |
| rik | i'm usinhg an N800 | 19:18 |
| rik | not a 770 | 19:18 |
| zoran | but I used that way to connect and do what I want | 19:18 |
| rik | and ssh has nothing to do with this | 19:18 |
| rik | also, there's no connectivity when you're in the data center | 19:18 |
| zoran | hm? | 19:18 |
| rik | that's why i want this on hte N800 | 19:18 |
| zoran | what is a diff? | 19:18 |
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| zoran | if u use wifi... | 19:19 |
| zoran | u connect to router | 19:19 |
| zoran | get your ip | 19:19 |
| rik | there is no wifi | 19:19 |
| zoran | go out to the wild | 19:19 |
| rik | there is no router. | 19:19 |
| zoran | connect to the server | 19:19 |
| zoran | ah! | 19:19 |
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| zoran | got it | 19:19 |
| zoran | how could u go to the net? | 19:19 |
| rik | i can't. | 19:19 |
| zoran | so, no nokia? | 19:20 |
| rik | oh. i have the N800 here, but when i'm in the data center, it won't have internet access. | 19:20 |
| zoran | rik, why? | 19:20 |
| zoran | no wifi ap? | 19:20 |
| rik | because there's no internet access int he data centers. | 19:21 |
| rik | no wifi. | 19:21 |
| zoran | :) | 19:21 |
| rik | it's a secure environment. | 19:21 |
| zoran | go out of the room | 19:21 |
| rik | doesn't help. | 19:21 |
| zoran | do you have ip address in a public | 19:21 |
| rik | the *building* doesn't have it. | 19:21 |
| rik | no. | 19:21 |
| rik | there is no connectivity. | 19:21 |
| rik | stop talking about using the internet. | 19:21 |
| zoran | not at all? | 19:21 |
| rik | no. not. at. all. | 19:21 |
| zoran | k | 19:21 |
| * czr sends internet to rik | 19:22 | |
| czr | you can install it on the N800 now | 19:22 |
| zoran | me too, please | 19:22 |
| czr | seriously though, you could run tcp/ip over bt, assuming you'd have at least some server in the room that would act as an gateway | 19:22 |
| czr | at least technically, didn't have time to look into it properly though. | 19:23 |
| koen | it's czr! | 19:23 |
| czr | hi koen :-). indeed it is | 19:23 |
| rik | nope. | 19:23 |
| rik | there is nothing | 19:23 |
| rik | deliberately. | 19:23 |
| czr | every time I try to get away, they pull me back in! | 19:23 |
| zoran | stay with us, would you? | 19:24 |
| czr | zoran, my plan to escape failed. I'll try harder next time. | 19:24 |
| czr | koen, still working with maemo I see? | 19:24 |
| zoran | u want to say that you like chicks better then our talks? | 19:24 |
| czr | I have nothing against chickens | 19:24 |
| zoran | one shows 770 to the chick and chick goes crazy | 19:25 |
| zoran | and say "I nefer saw shaver like this" | 19:26 |
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| zoran | folks, what will be with that wimax story on the next device? | 19:27 |
| * zoran gone to feed dragons | 19:29 | |
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| * czr types af-sb-init.sh | 19:29 | |
| czr | feels like I never left. | 19:29 |
| czr | anyone running chinook sdk? | 19:31 |
| czr | (just to confirm one thing) | 19:32 |
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| koen | czr: yeah | 19:38 |
| czr | koen, to which question? :-) | 19:38 |
| czr | hmm. for some reason after doing af-sb-init.sh stop, I can't switch sb targets. complains about 'sb-conf: You must close your other Scratchbox sessions first" | 19:38 |
| Mikho | does anybody know where I could get a ftdi-sio driver for the 770? | 19:38 |
| * czr remembers why he liked maemo so much now | 19:38 | |
| Mikho | I have the ftdi-sio driver sources, but I need various kernel files for compiling | 19:39 |
| Mikho | at the moment I'm trying to find the .config file that's supposed to be found from /lib/modules/<kernelversion>/build/ | 19:40 |
| _Monkey | Hmm. No matches for that, Mikho. | 19:40 |
| koen | czr: that I'm still doing stuff with maemo :) | 19:41 |
| Mikho | unfortunately the /lib/modules directory is empty inside my scratchbox | 19:41 |
| czr | koen, ah, cool. nice to see "old" faces. was worried that the whole channel had degenerated to single letter words like 'u', 'r' and 'y'. :-) | 19:41 |
| koen | :) | 19:41 |
| koen | I got most hildon stuff to build against a stock gtk+ today | 19:42 |
| koen | abusing some ubuntu-mobile patches | 19:42 |
| czr | ah | 19:42 |
| czr | so sw using hildon building against ume? | 19:42 |
| koen | I had to copy headers containing the private api to the include dir though | 19:43 |
| koen | so got still killed a kitten | 19:43 |
| koen | no, ubunty-mobile has some patches sanitizing the maemo stuff :) | 19:43 |
| czr | well, private api here or there, who cares :-) | 19:43 |
| czr | cool | 19:43 |
| czr | I've been totally out of the whole mobile-gui stuff for a year or two | 19:43 |
| czr | working on high-perf i/o-stuff | 19:44 |
| pupnik | radio959.com great interview right now | 19:45 |
| czr | meh. what's up with sb not allowing me to switch targets. | 19:45 |
| * czr applies a patch called hammer to sb. | 19:45 | |
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| * czr applies the same patch against himself | 19:47 | |
| czr | figures, had another session open to sb over the network | 19:47 |
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| Mikho | Hmm... I just need the configuration file that's used in vanilla 770 kernels | 19:49 |
| czr | is there a term package for 4.0 anywhere? | 19:52 |
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| t_s_o | hrmf, looks like i got hit with wsod :( | 20:09 |
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| alabama | hi all. Problem here: trying to ssh -X from ubuntu (client) to 770 (server). Both using openssh. The app I pass as a parameter is a python one. If I try it directly on Ubuntu or on 770, it just works. When I try to run it through ssh using 770 as server, it gives me an error in the import gtk line. Same with another app I've tried. What could I try? | 20:15 |
| alabama | PS: if I do the contrary, that is Ubuntu server and 770 client, the app works and I can use it from the 770. | 20:16 |
| alabama | the error is: "global name '__gtk' is not defined" | 20:17 |
| luck^ | alabama, maybe you need to use run-standalone.sh before python program.py | 20:17 |
| alabama | i'm trying... | 20:17 |
| alabama | just a moment... | 20:18 |
| luck^ | alabama, ok | 20:18 |
| alabama | mm thanks luck, it's better now... but: | 20:19 |
| alabama | the app runs on the 770: this is not what i want. | 20:19 |
| alabama | I'd like to see the app on Ubunutu (client) | 20:19 |
| luck^ | alabama.. hmmmm | 20:21 |
| alabama | why the behaviour is different if I do the reverse? in the other case I can use from 770 the app running on Ubuntu, with the same command line (apart from the run-standalone.sh thing) | 20:21 |
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| alabama | ohps, damn I must go. luck are there any quick clues you're pondering on? | 20:22 |
| luck^ | alabama, this script does all the initialization of variables inside scratchbox/770/n800 | 20:22 |
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| alabama | luck^: (waiting) | 20:23 |
| luck^ | alabama, you're running your application directly inside ubuntu? | 20:23 |
| alabama | inside ubuntu the app works | 20:24 |
| alabama | but i want it running in 770 | 20:24 |
| alabama | but seeing it in ubuntu | 20:24 |
| alabama | :) | 20:24 |
| luck^ | :) | 20:24 |
| alabama | luck^, which script where you talking about? run-standalone.sh? | 20:25 |
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| luck^ | alabama, yes | 20:25 |
| alabama | ok... sorry I must really go | 20:25 |
| alabama | let's see in another round. Bye, thanks very much | 20:26 |
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| luck^ | alabama, ok! see you | 20:26 |
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| satd | i got hamachi running my N770 | 20:57 |
| satd | now i don't know how to use it | 20:58 |
| czr | satd, but at least you have it | 20:58 |
| czr | it's more than half of the victory, you know. | 20:58 |
| satd | yea.. | 20:58 |
| gla55_ | it's like getting a girl to your apartment and stopping there | 20:58 |
| satd | hahaha | 20:58 |
| czr | gla55_, or going to a bar and knowing that you could order beer at any point, but not bothering to do so? | 20:59 |
| czr | it is.. a powerful feeling.. | 20:59 |
| ||cw | an open bar even, with free beer | 20:59 |
| czr | oh yes. very very powerful. | 21:00 |
| pupnik | the dosbox guys are so helpful | 21:00 |
| gla55_ | czr: no. more like going to a bar and not knowing what to do there | 21:00 |
| satd | what is the command in ssh to rename folders | 21:00 |
| gla55_ | bothering is no the right word | 21:00 |
| czr | gla55_, who told you that! I'm not always like that.. | 21:00 |
| gla55_ | it implies choice | 21:00 |
| pupnik | mv name1 nam2 | 21:00 |
| satd | also i can see the root in my file manager but can't see the foldering i created using ssh | 21:01 |
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| satd | and also can't copy or move files to my root using file manager | 21:01 |
| satd | any way around this? | 21:01 |
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| pupnik | use midnight commander or some other file manager | 21:04 |
| pupnik | or the command line | 21:04 |
| pupnik | but you should be sure of your actions when changing things in the rest of the system | 21:05 |
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| satd | how do i make user have root permission? | 21:05 |
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| satd | is there way to create bat file in n770 | 21:09 |
| pupnik | sudo gainroot | 21:09 |
| pupnik | yeah look up shell programming | 21:09 |
| satd | when i run it will run bunch of commands | 21:09 |
| pupnik | any command you type you can put in a text file | 21:10 |
| pupnik | then execute that file | 21:10 |
| satd | how | 21:10 |
| pupnik | with "sh filename" | 21:10 |
| satd | ohh | 21:10 |
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| satd | but thats in xterm rite | 21:10 |
| satd | can't run that file from the gui | 21:10 |
| pupnik | you can | 21:11 |
| pupnik | but you need the load-applet-run or osso-screenshot applet to run them | 21:11 |
| pupnik | load-applet-run? | 21:11 |
| _Monkey | i think load-applet-run is John Costigan's awesome toolbar applet to monitor cpu and launch programs: http://gnuite.com:8080/nokia770/ | 21:11 |
| pupnik | it would really help to spend some time with a linux 101 type course or book - before mucking too much with the nokia | 21:13 |
| czr | bricking in the ultimate teacher! | 21:13 |
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| satd | if u brick it.. | 21:14 |
| satd | no way to bring it back? | 21:14 |
| satd | even by flashing? | 21:14 |
| pupnik | flasher? | 21:15 |
| _Monkey | i guess flasher is available from http://tablets-dev.nokia.com | 21:15 |
| satd | so it can be fixed? | 21:15 |
| pupnik | yes | 21:15 |
| satd | any1 here has hamachi on their n770? | 21:17 |
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| Mikho | sorry about swearing but... | 21:21 |
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| Mikho | I DAMN to HELL everything about linux drivers. Impossible to install a simple ftdi-sio driver to get a gadget connected to my 770 usb port | 21:22 |
| zuh | Mikho: You mean alternative OSes would have better ones? Like WinCE? | 21:23 |
| Mikho | for that I need kernel sources, configuration scripts and black magic to get something to work | 21:23 |
| Mikho | Instructions say run make and then insmod. Except that make spews out thousands and thousands of error messages that have little to do with the actual problem | 21:25 |
| Mikho | </complaint> | 21:25 |
| czr | Mikho, you could always write your own os | 21:26 |
| * Mikho goes for a beer... or two | 21:26 | |
| Mikho | I just want to plug in something to an usb port and be done with it | 21:27 |
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| t_s_o | i think thats the worst that apple and microsoft have done to the computer user community. made them think that computers are dead easy to use... | 21:28 |
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| jumpula | apple is usually elegant and there's logic behind everything | 21:38 |
| jumpula | i can't honestly say same about microsoft | 21:38 |
| Mikho | actually there's lot of things in microsoft OSes that work | 21:42 |
| Mikho | also, my ubuntu desktop installation recognized the usb memory stick I inserted into the port, which is nice | 21:43 |
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| Mikho | hmm... maybe it's an issue with just this one driver I'm trying to compile | 21:48 |
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| Mikho | what is "kernel-package"? | 21:57 |
| * pupnik just found the cvs commit that breaks dosbox on nokia | 21:59 | |
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| Mikho | whoa... scratchbox complains about missing host-gcc pakage with error message: "Too many open files" | 22:16 |
| Mikho | in programming, misleading error messages are most perilous | 22:17 |
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| skibur | anybody have OpenWRT? | 22:24 |
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| Tb0n3r | for some reason when I try to install things on my 770 for some of the things it says it doesn't have the libglade package that much is dependent on | 23:14 |
| Tb0n3r | wtfux? | 23:14 |
| Tb0n3r | are these n800 items? | 23:14 |
| pupnik | no | 23:15 |
| Tb0n3r | but it doesn't seem to be in the list | 23:16 |
| Tb0n3r | wish it automatically resolved dependencies | 23:16 |
| pupnik | yeah sounds like someone goofed | 23:16 |
| Tb0n3r | hmm? | 23:16 |
| Tb0n3r | who goofed? | 23:16 |
| Tb0n3r | there's a lot of them | 23:16 |
| pupnik | the person who packaged the program | 23:16 |
| pupnik | you can find libglade here | 23:17 |
| pupnik | repositories? | 23:17 |
| _Monkey | repositories is http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php | 23:17 |
| Tb0n3r | :) | 23:17 |
| pupnik | it does seem to be in my 770 repos | 23:18 |
| pupnik | libglade2-0 | 23:18 |
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| Nermal | :) | 23:23 |
| satd | all of sudden my n770 is slow | 23:23 |
| satd | uninstalling.. | 23:23 |
| satd | installing.. | 23:23 |
| satd | even loading application manager takes forever.. | 23:23 |
| satd | what could of caused it? | 23:24 |
| Tb0n3r | oh man, lots of repos | 23:27 |
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| pupnik | yeah the world will be complete when each tablet owner has his/her own repo | 23:29 |
| Tb0n3r | wish I could figure out how the 770 knew that the jacket was on backwards for standby | 23:29 |
| Tb0n3r | lol | 23:29 |
| * Nermal charges his n800 | 23:29 | |
| pupnik | it's a magnetic switch | 23:29 |
| Tb0n3r | I thought it might have been | 23:29 |
| flip^ | does the 770 have the same problem with that media crawler as the n800 for cpu time... | 23:29 |
| Tb0n3r | anything I just HAVE to get for my internet table | 23:30 |
| flip^ | claws-mail... | 23:31 |
| _Monkey | claws-mail is good. | 23:31 |
| Tb0n3r | hmm | 23:31 |
| Tb0n3r | just a pop client? | 23:31 |
| flip^ | or imap | 23:31 |
| flip^ | but it actually works well, rather than the rubbish that ships with the device | 23:31 |
| Tb0n3r | right | 23:31 |
| Tb0n3r | I couldn't get that working with gmail | 23:32 |
| flip^ | can't say i've tried a gmail account | 23:32 |
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| flip^ | Xournal is pretty nifty | 23:33 |
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| Tb0n3r | didn't show up in the repos I've selected so far | 23:34 |
| Tb0n3r | or does search suck | 23:34 |
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| Tb0n3r | oh, nvm, refreshing package list | 23:35 |
| Tb0n3r | kinda weird though how the screen is sparkly | 23:35 |
| Tb0n3r | on black | 23:35 |
| Tb0n3r | at a slight angle | 23:35 |
| Tb0n3r | is that just the touch screen? | 23:36 |
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| pupnik | i think that's the touch screen | 23:36 |
| Tb0n3r | matrices | 23:36 |
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| pupnik | i can see them in macro snapshots with my camera | 23:37 |
| Tb0n3r | lol microscope | 23:38 |
| pupnik | my scopes are packed in crates | 23:39 |
| Tb0n3r | :( my repo update is stuck at 6kb | 23:39 |
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| Tb0n3r | any easier way to move repositories into the system without having to type them all in? | 23:46 |
| Tb0n3r | ah, apt | 23:47 |
| pupnik | yes, you can click on .install links | 23:48 |
| pupnik | these will add repos | 23:48 |
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| Mikho | mikä ihmeen viinakortti? | 23:54 |
| Mikho | sorry, wrong channel | 23:55 |
| Tb0n3r | ... | 23:56 |
| erstazi | Mikho: you can still talk in any language you desire (: | 23:56 |
| Tb0n3r | forgot, no root | 23:56 |
| Tb0n3r | what's the root password on these things? | 23:57 |
| Mikho | oh, ok. Anyway, it was a response to this http://www.alko.fi/ | 23:57 |
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| Mikho | it has absolutely nothing to do with maemo | 23:57 |
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