IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2007-09-27

* killfill looking for that thread..00:00
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t_s_o <- found this while reading this:
Tb0n3well, I don't seem to see many emulators, only see mame, NES, and GBA00:03
Tb0n3well, doesn't quite matter but it would be awsome none the less00:03
|tbb|hi all, i have noticed that if i start chat with the n800 built in instant messenger, it first disconnect before it reconnects to it again. which means someone drop u a message u get a notify on the "contact symbol" then u hit the chat icon, and then u got dis and reconnect. Is this a bug?00:03
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killfillt_s_o: too bad its just for google calendar...00:15
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t_s_oi thought that was what was asked for00:15
killfilloh yah.. 50% :).. need to sync with my office calendar.. we use egroupware.. it has a ical thingy00:16
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dobeyis this the best place to chat with the "browser" devs?00:17
t_s_owell i cant help there killfill00:18
killfillit uses syncML 1.100:21
killfillwith user/pass and all..00:21
killfillit owuld be very cool to sync the calendar, contacts and tasks.. :P00:21
* killfill dreaming...00:21
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t_s_ofor some reason syncing, to anything else then google calender, is a hassle...00:33
t_s_oi was looking into syncing my phone and my 770 and at best i could find a port of opensync that needed me to go terminal and do some work there to get it going...00:34
t_s_obut then i get the idea of personal sync with google calender. but then i have never liked to hand my "life" over the google. no matter how strict they stick to they "dont be evil" slogan00:35
alteregoSet up your own PIM suite on your own personal site.00:35
killfilland well ive heard google gives info very easily00:35
alteregoGoogle are evil.00:36
alteregoUseful, but evil :)00:36
killfillyup. but anyway, i need to sync calendar with the work.. using syncml...00:36
t_s_oalterego: why should i go that far when all i want to do is sync with my desktop computer, mobile phone and 770?00:36
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alteregot_s_o, you don't have to go that far if that's all you want ;)00:36
alteregoI'd love to write a PIM suite.00:37
alteregoMaybe I'll do that in Ruby :)00:37
alteregoOnce I've done this stable build. I'll start working on some proper Ruby internet tablet apps :)00:37
killfilloh i love ruby.00:38
t_s_oit would be nice to get kontacts (kde) to talk to dates or gpe-calender and my phone. but so far it looks as to much work for me to undertake00:38
killfillcan help you with it :)00:38
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alteregoI maintain the ruby port and bindings for Maemo :)00:38
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xeosHi, is there any experiences about extend the root fs on IT06He?00:40
* killfill bookmarking.. :)00:40
alteregoxeos, you can always dual boot with an MMC card :)00:40
alteregokillfill, the site is pretty crappy at the moment. I'd like to stick a development RSS feed up there.00:40
alteregoSo people can subscribe to the updates. Maybe a repository too.00:41
killfillyah.. would be cool00:41
alterego(debian repositiory) I've already setup an SVN repo.00:41
killfillill put an eye on your site.00:41
xeosalterego: thanks for you response, I will take a look00:41
alteregonp :)00:42
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xeosIt sounds nice and seems works for me. The idea is I am building a emacs deb package for maemo but I have not enough free space at disk  lol  :-)00:49
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HviidHi... I got a Nokia N800, can anybody tell me, how I get it to execute a command at startup?00:54
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alteregoHviid, become root and create an init script00:57
fish_is there a limit for the mmc card size on nokia 770?00:58
dobeyfish_: the kernel on the 770 probably doesn't handle the larger cards00:59
Hviidalterego, okay, but the problem then is, I need it to open a homepage, but I can't seem to find, the command that opens the browser, has it something to do with maemo.launcher?00:59
alteregoYou can use dbus-send to open the browser00:59
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xeosfish_: my n770 works fine with a 2gb mmc01:02
flip^is there any merit to having more than 128m swap on a n800?01:03
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alteregoflip^, I didn't think you can.01:04
Hviidalterego, sorry I'm new at this :S but dont quiet understand, what parameters it wants01:05
flip^alterego: i imagine if you did it manually from the command line it could be done...01:05
alteregoHviid, I'm sure there's an entry on the wiki that tells you how to launch the browser from the console.01:05
alteregoUsing dbus ..01:05
Hviidok thx01:05
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t_s_ohow much wear on the flash does swap produce?01:06
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flip^t_s_o: in theory, it shortens the life of a card, but no one i know has ever had one wear out on them01:07
t_s_onot like that person that managed to kill a usbkey by having the mount set to sync?01:07
t_s_omaybe i should turn on some swap on my 770 then, mozilla seem to behave better when i do so01:07
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xeosProblems, `mount -t jffs2 /dev/mtdblock4 /floppy' failed, any idea?01:13
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xeosif anyone knows why it fails, then tell me please01:40
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Tb0n3what sort of connection does the 770 have that could be "hacked" to be a user-end usb connection?01:51
Tb0n3and how would one go about it, because I have a SIRF III usb gps that would be great for gps in the car01:51
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bmidgleyTb0n3 people have switched the usb port to host mode01:56
bmidgleyyou need external power for it01:56
bmidgleybunch of soldering01:56
bmidgleymight be easier to buy a bt gps01:56
Lateraluss/might/it would/01:57
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xeossolved, all works right now, thanks02:48
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|Ri havent received my N800 yet but i was wondering if the SD Cards showed up (mountable) when you plugged in the N800 ?03:20
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saaib|R,  it does in the 770, so I'm almost sure it does in 80003:22
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|Rsaaib : cool thanks :)03:24
|Rcause i don't have a SDHC reader and thought i could save a few $ ;)03:24
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alterego|R, the N800 acts as an SD/MMC card reader when plugged in using the USB cable.03:34
alteregoIf you install the openssh server package you can mount them over wifi too :)03:35
|RI'm really eager to have some ssh/bash/vim fun at the bar ;)03:35
alteregoIt's cool.03:37
alteregovi is installed, but I'm an emacs guy ;)03:38
|Ri'm sorry :P03:39
|Rhehe, just joking :)03:39
alteregoFinally ..03:40
|RIs there a major incompatibility between software on the 770 and 800 ?03:40
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alteregoNot between the latest OS2006 for 770 and OS2007 for N80003:44
Tb0n3I thought the 770 only took MMCmobile cards03:44
alteregoThere are slight API changes but nothing too dramatic.03:44
Tb0n3does it take sd?03:44
Tb0n3other than the look and speed03:44
alteregoThe 770 only takes mini MMC03:44
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Tb0n3thought so03:45
* alterego installs the latest ruby port.03:46
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|Rso anything 2006+ should work everywhere (binaries) ?03:46
Tb0n3oh god, I just bought a 5 lb bag of mike & ikes03:46
alteregoNo, not everything. Like I said there are some API changes.03:46
alteregoA fair amount of software works on both devices.03:47
|Roh ok :)03:47
alteregoruby-maemo is cross tablet.03:48
alteregoSo much so, that the next release wont even need seperate ruby-hildon packages. :)03:49
alteregoIt'll dynamically "fix" the API. :)03:49
|Rhehe good :)03:49
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Tb0n3what place should I look for OS 2006 applications04:00
Tb0n3and should I update to another OS 2006 plus release, ones with etc2/3, 2GB card support, etc04:03
t_s_ohmm, so a 2GB mmc mobile card will not work in the 770?04:07
Tb0n3not without an update, no, it's listed on nokia's website as 1GB max04:07
t_s_oah, i thought i read about someone having it working. could be they did something to the kernel04:08
alteregoI think that limit is with the original ITOS04:08
alteregoMost are shipped now with the latest IT200604:08
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t_s_oso what is the diff between micro and mobile again?04:09
alteregoI've never heard of mobile.04:09
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t_s_ohmm, seems to be a smaller mmcplus04:10
Tb0n3lol "USB 2.0 device mode for PC connectivity (with speeds up to 12Mbps)"04:11
Tb0n3usb 2.0 "full speed"04:11
Tb0n3any specific way of updating the kernel to the new 2006?04:12
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t_s_ohmm, im guessing that going with rs-mmc of 1GB size should be safe04:14
The_BlobWere you looking into getting a larger one?04:14
t_s_othere was a 2GB mmcmobile. but if its not supported, well...04:15
The_BlobI have a 2GB RS-MMC in my 770 if that makes a difference in your decision.. :>04:15
t_s_ocant find one around here that i know of04:16
The_BlobI found mine on ebay, was in HK I think04:16
The_BlobI found some 256 and 512s in stores locally but that's about it, noone even had 1GB ones in the stores04:16
The_BlobNot exactly easy to come by ;)04:17
t_s_ohmm, looking at wikipedia it seems that all of them should be able to work as a mmc, only that mmcplus has a 4-bit and 8-bit bus ability, and the micro has a (optional) 4-bit one04:18
t_s_ohmm, the micro would probably need a adapter to act as a rs-mmc as its 11mm wide vs the rs-mmc's 24mm04:19
The_BlobMight even be hard to come by a micro->RS adapter anyway04:20
The_BlobIf it's still 'mmc' it's probably electrically compatible though04:21
t_s_ounless they ship with one. got a m2 for my phone a while ago (sonyericsson, yep i knew about the memory but i had good experience with the brand and it had the features i wanted. and it looks like future ones from them will have a dual reader that can do SD variants to) and it came with a adapter04:21
alteregoGood night people04:22
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The_BlobIn any case, I hope I didn't speak too soon, I was only lurking here for a few minutes before I spoke up04:22
t_s_oheh, interesting table on that wikipedia page. the mmcplus, with its 8-bit bus looks like it should peak at 416Mbit/s04:23
The_BlobI'll have to check that out04:23
The_BlobBut for now I'm out04:23
The_Blobthx for the link  ;)04:23
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Tb0n3I'll never buy a memory card off of ebay after the shit I've heard about MS pro duos04:51
Tb0n3and they're all gone04:51
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Tb0n3anyhow, they don't have magicgate and are so slow that psps can't read game isos fast enough to play off it04:52
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sparrTb0n3: i think your choice of sony's proprietary "Memory Stick" was the first mistake in that chain of events05:28
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pupnikArthur... Arthur... King of the Britons...05:59
pupnikoh sry05:59
Tb0n3like I had a choice? I've got a psp with a custom firmware06:01
Tb0n3so I play games for free as well as use it for internet radio, emulate snes/psx/nes/genesis, wifi sniffer/media player06:02
Tb0n32 GB stick from walmart, coulda gotten it cheaper elsewhere but it was 12am and I wanted to h4x it06:03
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unique311video chat.....06:34
unique311gizmo, came thru06:34
unique311don't bother if you have rtcomm installed, gizmo 4.0 for the n800 crashes real bad.06:38
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pupnik"DOSBox on a 1.7 Gigahertz PC is roughly the equivalent  of  a  25MHz  386  PC."06:43
pupnikconsidering that, the tablet doesn't run it that badly06:44
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* pupnik does the grunt work for sound samples for xu4 that nobody ever has properly done yet :/06:53
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* nelson made an external battery pack holder.07:07
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pupniknice - i'd like a power plug that doesn't have so much leverage07:07
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nelsonpupnik: this one is integrated into the case wrapper.07:08
nelsonPhotos once I have daylight.07:08
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pupnikgreat product07:23
nelsonDoes camera-2.9.2video actually upload to flickr or is that just a tease?07:24
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nelsonpupnik: but .... I can't find it in their ebay store anymore.07:25
nelsonv. annoying, especially since I was just going to brag about my wonderful form-fitting external battery.07:25
nelsonHmmmm.....  same product seems to be available still:
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pupniklooking at the intel UMG platform roadmap ... ARM is going to get some competition :/08:04
pupnikMcCaslin, Menlow, Moorestown08:05
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pupnikA very small bicycle ..
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rene4jazzHi people08:14
nelsonObviously, then, you feel that I fall into the class ``people''.08:15
nelsonMakes my heart giddy with joy.08:15
rene4jazzI'am having this error: /scratchbox/tools/bin/chown: `messagebus.messagebus': invalid user08:15
nelsonpupnik: yes, I've looked at that bike.  Problem is it has a 180lb weight limit.08:15
rene4jazzthat's trying to install gconf208:15
rene4jazzups, did not catch that08:16
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rene4jazzdoes any one know what is the cause?08:19
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rene4jazzI'am using SDK 2.2 gregale08:22
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pupnik nope08:22
pupnikgregale, gconf2... i might have that08:23
pupnikFilename: pool/herring/main/g/gconf2/gconf2_2.6.4.14-osso2_armel.deb08:23
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rene4jazzi did not catch the idea, sorry08:24
pupnikrene4jazz: you can dpkg-x the gconf package and look at the postinst script to see where it is getting the username from08:25
pupnikdpkg -X08:25
rene4jazzok, i'll see08:25
pupnikor apt-get source gconf to see it08:25
pupniki don't know what's wrong - that's just how i would work backwards from the error message08:26
rene4jazzok roger08:26
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e-squizoany scratchbox2 users? I can't seem to get it to run " start" as instructed in
e-squizoof course, that example uses scratchbox,. not sb2...08:37
e-squizobut I kinda expected them to work similarly08:37
pupnikwhat error message?08:38
e-squizopupnik: tons of them08:51
e-squizoessentially: it doesn't find any of the programs08:51
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e-squizoI expected the sb2 -e command to drop me in some kind of "virtual N800" box08:52
e-squizobut it doesn't08:52
e-squizomaybe I failed to understand the whole concept?08:54
pupnikare you logged-in?08:54
pupnikcd /scratchbod && ./login08:54
e-squizolemme see08:54
e-squizofirst things first: this is scratchbox2, not scratchbx08:55
e-squizoI understand scratchbox installs to /scratchbox, whereas sb2 does not08:55
e-squizoI have no "login" program in my maemo-root tree...08:57
e-squizopupnik: so... it doesn't look like I can login08:57
pupniki dont' know sb208:58
e-squizopupnik: thanks anyway08:58
e-squizoit's what comes with Debian unstable..08:59
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pupnikapt-cache show scratchbox-core09:06
pupnikVersion: 1.0.709:06
pupnikif you find a maemo-specific howto for scratchbox2 post the link here pls09:07
e-squizoapt-cache show scratchbox-core09:07
e-squizoW: Unable to locate package scratchbox-core09:07
pupnikhmm i have debian sid here09:07
pupnikoh that means you don't have it installed09:07
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pupnikif you apt-cache search scratchbox you should see scratchbox-core09:08
e-squizopupnik: unfortunately, I don't09:09
pupnikinterestiing - looks like sb2 does work09:09
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e-squizo$ apt-cache search --names-only scratchbox09:09
e-squizoscratchbox2 - Transparent cross compiling environment09:09
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e-squizopupnik: cool! now, just tell me, how?09:09
pupnikjust reading your link09:10
e-squizopupnik: ah09:10
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pupnikdeb sid main contrib non-free is where i think i'm getting it09:11
e-squizoaccording to that link, it should work09:11
pupnikhow do i do an apt-search that shows me which repository contains which package?09:11
e-squizoI have deb sid main contrib non-free09:12
e-squizogood question... let me see if I find an answer09:12
pupnikstrange - that is only kernel i think09:12
pupnikah ok09:13
e-squizothat is all of Debian09:13
rene4jazzwhat is the purpose of sbox_configure?09:15
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pupnik  nice concept for a swivel-out keyboard (slide-out has patent issues)09:23
vesanot very practical compared to slideout. onehand operation prettymuch impossible09:34
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`0660i think it should have a button which would pop it out :)09:41
`0660it could play futuristic sounds while doing it :)09:42
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JaffaMorning, all11:00
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lardmanmorning all11:30
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pupnikso then dialogue would be something like this:11:38
flip^is there anything on a n800 that could open either a word doc file, or a rtf file even?11:40
flip^(and edit it)11:40
flip^abiword seems to only care about its own format11:40
flip^denies me any attempt to open anything else11:40
pupnikhrm duno11:41
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lardmanThe text section should normally contain assembled code?11:45
pupnikwrong window lardman?  :confused:11:46
lardmantalking about assembly11:47
lardmanLooks like the asm I'm using for CRC is being placed somewhere the dsp_dld linker doesn't know about - the text section11:48
lardmanhmm, but .text is there when I disassemble the code11:49
lardmanah, missing a dot11:50
lardmansilly me11:50
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* flip^ wonders why the app manager is hanging updating its catalogues :/11:55
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pupnikflip^: try apt-get update from xterm (with apt manager closed)11:59
pupniksee if that gets you errors11:59
pupnik(as root)11:59
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* flip^ watches it hang on abisource :(12:02
flip^now its just being odd ...  Waiting for headers...12:06
flip^"GPG error" public key not available on or >.<12:07
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lardmankulve: Have you ever seen the following error?: mbox: ERR from DSP (BADADR): 0x620012:24
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kulvehmmm, no, I don't think so..12:26
lardmanthe spec pdf reckons this message is unused12:26
HviidHi... Does anybody know how I get the /usr/bin/browser to start in fullscren, which parameter?12:26
HviidIts an N800 standard browser12:27
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_Monkeyniihau, latzko12:27
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latzkoI have an applet with CSM activated at tap-and-hold. The request to me is that CSM should only come up in empty areas of the applet (any empty areas btw) and none of the control widgets. Is that possible?12:30
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Rebroadhi. is is possible to video chat on the latest n800 firmware ?13:03
flip^with skype, apparently. not tried it yet though13:05
Rebroadwhen i extend the webcam it runs the internet call app, not skype. any idea why?13:06
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flip^Rebroad: you can just close it and launch skype instead13:07
flip^there's an option in the internet call app that says "automatically run me when the camera is opened"13:07
flip^you can just untick the option and then it doesn't automatically run anything when the camera is extended13:08
xandthe 800 has a camera?13:08
Rebroadby this option is it safe to assume i can video chat using internet call app? if so, how?13:09
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flip^Rebroad: you can, with Google Chat / Jabber13:12
flip^I've no experience at all with that though13:13
Rebroadflip^, i have tried with someone using the latest googletalk client but it says their client doesn't support video13:14
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Rebroadflip^, what experience of video chat do you have?13:14
celesteh_rulesi can't get video chat to work either13:15
Rebroadtigert, what other team?13:15
flip^Rebroad: I've used skype on a PC quite a bit... not got round to trying it on my n800 though (i've only had it a few weeks now)13:16
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Rebroadok, so it seems that alto13:17
Rebroadalthough the n800 has a camera, there is ct13:17
Rebroadactually no useful sw for it!13:18
flip^there's some other photo taking software about, but i could do with a video recording app too tbh13:18
tigertRebroad: ??13:21
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FeopathyHi Room, just trying to recompile a package made for the 800 onto the 770. First time using scratch box and i was wondering if I have to install all the prerequisites by hand (./configure make) or can i use something like apt-get?14:02
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sbox_noobHi #maemo14:20
sbox_noobapt-get cannot resolve hostnames - wget can - already did edit nsswitch.conf and resolv.conf14:21
sbox_noobcurrently it is 3.1 - wanted to upgrade to 3.2 but apt-get wont update14:22
sbox_noob[sbox-SDK_ARMEL: ~] > cat /etc/nsswitch.conf|grep ^hosts && cat /etc/resolv.conf14:22
sbox_noobhosts:      dns14:22
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sbox_noobanyone an idea?14:24
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alumpcheck /scratchbox/etc/resolv.conf14:27
sbox_noobon the host machine?14:28
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sbox_noobsays "search datateam.local" and "nameserver" each in it's own line14:29
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sbox_noobgot to reboot14:32
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pupnik'CraigX' from Gp2x world appears to be developing a new handheld gaming console.  (what?  how?  with what money?  huh?)  Apparently based on OMAP 3430, Linux, 800x480 screen, wifi.   Quite a strange occurrence.14:38
pupnikif they actually get anywhere it will be interesting to see if they use Maemo/ITOS for it14:39
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janiarent the current gp2x versions  allready using linux ?14:42
pupnikyes but the manufacturer went bankrupt, according to forums14:43
matmowant to try fanoush mmc speed up without permanent flashing. On his web page he has a command "flasher-2.0" - is this same as initfs_flash?14:44
matmoand do I need boot menu to do this?14:45
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janipupnik: yes, that happened while ago. point was, atleast some parts of source for gp was released  and there's also quite a big dev community so it propably wont make much sense to switch to new software platform..14:49
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pupnikah i see14:54
janidunno thou, just speculating =)14:54
FeopathyTalking of Gp2x, how difficult is it to port programs from that platform to Maemo. They have an SDL based mpd client that looks like it could be rather tasty14:54
pupnikAFAIK no-one has ported a gp2x app to nokia yet14:55
pupniksorry matmo i don't know14:56
matmook np14:56
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janiwonder who n800 fares against gp2x hw specs ?14:58
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gla55_faster cpu, slower to update screen?14:59
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pupnikgp2x is another good example of how multiple cpus tend to not get used much15:01
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xeosHi, Anyone knows if is possible to install xfonts on n770? Does Xomap support it? thanks in advance15:05
janigla55_: which is which?15:05
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gla55_jani: n800 having faster cpu.. but gp2x has two? and smaller res screen thats faster to update..15:06
gla55_thats my understanding anyohw15:06
pupnikARM 920 and 940 coprocessor15:07
VReHmm.. it would be cool to have motion sensors in the next device..15:07
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Rebroadhow about bluetooth/usb connected motion sensors...15:09
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VReextra devices..15:10
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zwnjhi there15:27
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zwnjthe update for openssh-client (maemo6) depends on old version (maemo2) which is already installed, and i get a missing package error15:28
zwnjis it correct to depend on old version?15:29
fish_is there a cleanly ported version of gpsd?15:30
fish_looks like the gpsd version from deb mistral main is the default debian  package15:31
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gla55_eyy toniz15:42
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onionfish_: there is osso-gpsd15:50
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tonizI'm trying to develop a new connection manager to telepathy (on nokia n800) but I can't find any information regarding the ConfigurationUI defined in /usr/share/osso-rtcom/ .profile files...15:51
alteregoOh wonderfull .. Seg faults again ^_^15:53
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sbox_boonapt-get still cannot resolve hostnames - :(15:56
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alteregosbox_boon, What happens when you ping something?16:03
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janisbox_boon: maybe you need to add proxy settings for apt-get ? .. but best place to start to debug is to try ping & host if the network works at all inside sbox ..16:07
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zwnjinstalling osso-rtcom-beta, i get missing evolution-date-server.  what repo should i add to get it?16:16
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zwnji used the .install link, and run Extras/RTCom installer Beta16:18
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sbox_boonjani: there is no ping command in sbox 3.1 - is it?16:27
sbox_boon# gtk-window-decorator16:27
_Monkeyi think 3.1 is the latest (known) stable16:27
alteregoIs the latest stable :)16:28
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sbox_boonbut i can only upgrade to 3.2 with apt-get16:29
sbox_boon-date-server.  what repo should i add to get it?16:31
sbox_boon-date-server.  what repo should i add to get it?16:31
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janisbox_boon: true .. but well, not sure if 3.2 was wget but if its there (i have one), you can try to access some host with that..16:36
sbox_booni edited nsswitch.conf and resolv.conf16:37
sbox_boonand wget gets google.at16:37
sbox_boonbut apt-get update can resolve nothing!16:37
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janisbox_boon: does your lan have a proxy ?16:38
alteregoDoes using a proxy whilst have net sex count as contraception?16:41
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janidepends what you want to prevent ;)16:43
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sbox_boonno proxy in here16:43
janisbox_boon: anyway, i had similar issue16:43
janiah ok.16:44
jani- i had similar issue because of all traffic must go thru a proxy ..16:44
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janii had the same problem, apt-get wasnt able to upgrade because our lan doesnt allow outside connections, only thru a proxy ..16:45
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sbox_boonour lan does!17:02
sbox_booni use no proxy on my dev-machine - works!17:02
sbox_boonhelp - i need the scratchbox!!!!!17:05
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sbox_boonwhat can i else do than edit that nsswitch and resolv?17:07
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gw280anyone here familiar with theming in hildon able to explain why gtk_paint_box doesn't seem to paint a pushbutton correctly on my N800 when it's fine on my laptop?17:12
gw280does Hildon patch GtkButton such that it no longer paints using just a stylised paint box?17:12
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HviidHi... Why doesnt a script run, that I have but in all the /etc/rc*.d/ folders?17:20
lardmanHviid: Permissions?17:21
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HviidAnd in the rc*.d folders it is symlinks to it17:22
lardmanis it executable?17:22
lardmanI don't know then17:23
Hviid./etc/init.d/ holds the file, in the rc*.d are just symlinks17:23
lardmanwhat happens if you run the file manually?17:24
lardman /etc/init.d/myscriptname.sh17:24
HviidIt works17:24
Hviidbut when I reboot the device, nothing has happend17:25
lardmanI wonder if the rc.d scripts ever complete, or whether something (like the desktop) is started in one script and never returns17:25
lardmanin which case try changing the number17:25
HviidWhich priority are they in, lowest run first?17:25
Hviidbut still strange, I have it in ALL my rc*.d's17:26
lardmanah, no I think you misunderstand, the rcX refers to the runlevel17:26
HviidI know17:26
lardmanwithin the rcX.d directory, the symlinks are named with numbers, these numbers are the order17:26
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HviidI first put it in rc2.d, that didnt work, fuck it then i tought, and put it in them all :D17:27
lardmanin which case, if you use the same number in each case, it may be blocked in each case17:27
sbox_boonhelp... how to get that crappy apt running?17:27
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Hviidwhats the differens between S and K in the rc*.d filenames?17:28
mgedminthe S ones are executed when you enter a run level, while the K ones are executed when you leave a run level17:29
HviidAnybody knows the standard browser on the nokia N800, how I get it fullscreen, via parameter?17:29
sbox_boongconf setting?17:29
Hviidlike /usr/bin/browser --fullscreen17:30
kenneyou are trying to run it from a script?17:32
Hviidbecause I need it to start at boot, and go to a specific homepage in fullscreen17:33
kennedid you try to ssh to the n800 and run it from the terminal? :)17:33
HviidI have Xterm on the N80017:33
Hviidthis works fin /usr/bin/browser17:33
Hviidbut I need a parameter, if it exists to get it to start in fullscreen17:34
kennethis browser is probably a script right?17:34
Hviidits an binary17:34
Hviida binary17:34
_Monkeyit has been said that a binary is arm compiled, so it shall run without problems17:34
HviidIt also runs17:34
HviidBut i need it to start in fullscrenn17:35
kennethere is a url at least17:35
Hviidjep, found that one :D17:35
kennemaybe something here, donno17:35
kenneyou could write your own eal :)17:37
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kennesend a mail to the mailing list, there are probably some eal guys there17:39
kenneHviid, or read the source code :)17:39
kenneor see if you can find alp (callabora) probably there is a #telepathy channel and he is there17:40
kennebecause he is doing the webkit version17:40
kennehe should know17:40
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lardman is probably more what you want17:41
lardmanthe other code looks to be for a test harness17:42
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kennethere is no fullscreen option17:43
lardmanthough I can't see where in this code the command line is parsed, if it is indeed17:43
lardmandoes the --url parameter work?17:43
kenneMail this guy Leonid Zolotarev <>17:44
lardmanok, wrong bit of code again then17:44
Hviidlooks like there is something called --view17:44
kenneSet view type win/tab/box17:44
kennei guess the option doesnt exist17:45
kennebut could be added easily17:45
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lardmankulve: Looks like I somehow overwrote the area used to store the task information17:52
Hviidkenne, wrote the guy a mail now :D17:52
kenneHviid, nice!17:52
lardmankulve: my error was caused by the memory not being initialised to 0xDEAD17:52
kenneHviid, is this for a private project or ?17:52
lardmankulve: will have to try moving some of my large shared memory regions17:53
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Hviidkenne, actually its for a minor company17:53
kenneah I see17:53
HviidWe are developing a tool, for workout trainers17:53
kenneah webbased?17:53
Hviidyes webbased17:54
kennereminds me that I should start doing some sport17:54
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Hviidgg, check out www.bodyplanning.dk17:54
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Hviidkenne har priv msg dig17:55
kenneHviid, virkede ikke, du er nok ikke registeret paa serveren17:56
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Hviidkenne, nej nok ikke, bruger noget ircatwork.com17:57
kennedet er maaske det17:57
kenneHviid, join #nykanal :)17:58
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e-squizoare there any scratchbox2 users in the room?18:11
kulvelardman|gone: ok18:12
e-squizoscratchbox2 is what I get in debian sid, and although I can get the cross-compilation to work, I haven't figured out how to make the emulator work, to test the software before I upload it to the N80018:13
xeosHave do anyone installed Xfce on the tablet?18:14
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matmoi am following the wiki instructions to boot from mmc. At "now it's time to clone..." it says to skip the step if using a 770 but not to if on an 800 with OS2007. What if you have 2007HE on the 770?19:13
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alteregoWhat is the step?19:26
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matmoalterego: sry for delay, past that step now anyway :-)19:50
alteregoOkay :)19:51
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t_s_ohmm, im guessing that java based apps are not even worth considering for the 77021:53
_Shurik_what's wrong with C? :)21:56
t_s_oimo, nothing. but i see a java on n800 thread over on itt21:57
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matmosecond attempt trying to set up booting from mmc. When I get to the step to download "tar" apt-get reports it is about to remove a *lot* of packages and download 58meg (yes "meg"). I know the wiki says to expect warnings but is this right? I'm sure 58meg is not going to fit into the remianing 11meg :-)22:09
matmo(no, I didn't download tar the first time, just used existing busybox, maybe this is why it failed)22:10
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matmoor put another way (that may get an answer ;-) ) does the "-d" option *only* download the *one* package and *not* remove anything despite the warnings?22:23
X-Fadeyep. Make sure you use download only and you should be safe..22:24
matmoX-Fade: thanks22:24
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matmohmm, seems to have hung transferring ./var/log/wtmp22:41
matmocpu at 100 (or near) so I have to assume it is still doing something but been a few mins now on the one file. Still responsive but slow22:42
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georghi there. could anyone pass me his values from /etc/pointercal? my n770s screen calibration is screwed and doesn't take taps in the middle of circle 1 & 4. reflashing didn't help :(23:10
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solmumaha-15279 105 56148848 51 -9551 34549448 6553623:13
georgthanks, will try :)23:13
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_Monkeyhello, Celesteh23:20
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georgsolmumaha: didn't work, the point i touch and the point recognized are still half a cm away, at lest on the left side... thank you anyways23:24
solmumahak, sry to hear that23:25
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roopei has a brick?23:27
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