IRC log of #maemo for Sunday, 2007-09-23

iballpupnik, see if you can work an on-screen keyboard in there as well00:01
Molagidoesnt seem to work on n80000:02
* flip^ needs to find more cool stuff for his n80000:04
flip^(where cool can also mean geeky)00:04
pupnikiball: i can't get to in-game00:06
pupnikflip^: yes almost everything i build works fine on N800 - but you need to install them from the command line00:06
pupnikas things mature, to stable, i'll get native N800 builds finished, with one-click install etc.00:07
pupnikbut that is probably early 200800:07
flip^smw seemed to install ok, though i'm yet to launch it00:07
flip^i presume it'll need launching from the command line)00:07
_Monkeyload-applet-run is, like, John Costigan's awesome toolbar applet to monitor cpu and launch programs:
_Monkeysomebody said osso-statusbar-cpu was at
pupnikthose will let you run 'command line' games from a shortcut00:08
pupniki apologise for not dealing with the maemoization - i'm just doing this for fun you know00:08
* flip^ nods... i have one of them installed, but have yet to actually use its commands thing.. it's just useful to see when i've broken something and got something hogging cpu atm00:08
flip^once i work out scratchbox, i'll have a bit of a poke around for fun too, but i've not worked out how to add users to it yet to actually run it (only installed it on my box half an hour ago)00:09
pupnikwhere's ssvb when ya need him... he got allegro libs built and i can't do it00:09
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iballso you're working on the no-sound issue in TMW now, pupnik?00:11
pupniki haven't learned enough about sound backends yet00:12
iballFor pupnik's "command line" programs I just build a custom PROGRAMNAME.desktop file to launch it in /usr/share/applications/hildon00:12
iballwhat do you need the allegro libs for?00:13
pupnikwaitaminute, all you need is a desktop file?00:13
iballyeah, pupnik....duh00:14
nisse-You guys seem to be professional.00:14
iballhere's mine for Man World00:14
iball[Desktop Entry]00:14
iballName=The Mana World00:14
iballGenericName=The Mana World00:14
iballComment=The Mana World00:14
flip^pupnik: you know some of your software links are dead, yeah?00:14
iballworks like a charm00:15
nisse-I'm wondering that how\'s the work situation look like in the Maemo field00:15
pupnikhmm, i tried for a couple games and it didn't work here, thanks again iball00:15
iballso I take it you'll be adding desktop files to your command-line-only deb pacakges now? :)00:15
nisse-Sorry, auto escape on :D00:15
pupnikiball there's more to it but yes.  the games also need to appear in the active programs list on the left, and you need to be able to taskswitch - and there's a 'framework' for that called maemo-games (see marbles game)00:16
iballpupnik, so far I've built custom ones for The Mana World, Pioneers, lgeneral, and Chaos Strikes Back.00:16
pupnikthat's how they should all be running00:17
pupnikwhat is Pioneers?00:17
pupnikgreetings nisse-00:17
pupnikof course all the people who KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING are involved in 'serious' projects...00:18
iballsomething I recompiled to work on the N800...
iballsee if you can recompile and "make nicer" Pioneers for the IT00:18
iballmine was just a raw recompile and run from the binary00:18
pupnikeyah something i want to try needs allegro lib00:19
iballwhat needs allegro libs?00:20
pupniky00:20 could always try to remake dicewars for the IT00:20
iballi know someone "ported" it to the Nintendo DS and it's pretty good00:21
iballaddictive as hell00:21
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pupnik  does this work in opera browser?00:23
pupnikunique311 has a flash games collection btw00:23
nisse-pupnik: Is it easy to get a job?00:23
nisse-A 'trainee' jov00:24
infobotnisse- meant: A 'trainee' job00:24
pupnikyes, stocking supermarket shelves, tending a gas station00:24
nisse-punpik Yeah ;D I'm a coder allready.00:24
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nisse-Focused on Linux...00:24
pupniki have a lot of things for you to do, nisse-00:25
nisse-pupnik: Sarcastic?00:25
flip^pupnik: yes, it does seem to work in opera00:26
nisse-pupnik: Go on... Tell me.00:26
flip^on n800 anyway00:26
pupniknisse-: check out and let me know if any of those interest you00:27
pupnikwhat pisses me off is there are these billionaire charity funds and none of them ever sponsor open-source projects00:29
nisse-pupnik: The acmonitor looks good for a starters.00:29
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nisse-pupnik: I'm fluent in Ruby, PHP and Java(SE).00:29
pupnikacmonitor is 'finished'.  derf wrote it00:30
nisse-And I know pretty much about C++;00:30
pupniki just ripped out some code for the 77000:30
nisse-Okay, I'll check out something else.00:30
pupnikhow about finishing the penguin command conversion from 800x600 to 800x48000:30
pupnikit's maybe 80% done - jsut a few things not lining up00:31
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nisse-Ah, tell me.00:32
nisse-... More.00:32
iballacmonitor for N800 link is broken...anyway to host that locally, pupnik?00:33
nisse-pupnik: ...00:35
iballpupnik, I'm surprised you didn't also port over Castle Combat
nisse-pupnik: 40400:36
pupniksorry - 1 minute00:36
nisse-pupnik: Got it.00:37
pupnikplanetmath is very slow00:38
nisse-pupnik: Do you have something with c++?00:38
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pupnikyes, i don't know though00:40
nisse-pupnik: ??00:40
pupnikiball: that combat game uses pygame, and i don't do python00:40
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iballah, no it00:41
pupnikwb red-zack00:41
pupnikplenty of folks here who like python00:41
nisse-pupnik: Did you miss that last one?00:42
nisse-And yes.. Also no Python.00:42
nisse-Python feels like walking backwards after Ruby.00:43
straindHas anyone put Ruby on the IT?00:43
nisse-straind: Yep.00:43
pupniknisse-: thanks for the acmonitor link00:43
flip^pupnik: have you got a version of xkbd that'll go on a n800?00:44
pupnik_Monkey: ruby is
_MonkeyOK, pupnik.00:44
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pupnikflip^: yes, you can install xkbd on n80000:44
flip^presumably manually, as the app installer just says its not compatible00:44
pupniki don't have an n80000:45
flip^i've been spoiled by everything being easy with apt over the years methinks :)00:45
pupnikdpkg -i <package>00:45
pupnikwill ignore the version incompat00:45
flip^cool, thanks00:46
nisse-pupnik: Are you working on any project with C++;00:46
flip^i bought my n800 to get myself forced under the hood of this sort of thing again... hopefully will be doing some development or porting of my own before too long00:46
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pupnikit's fun flip^00:52
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pupnikmv: cannot stat `/home/minra/.deps/allegro/allegro4.1-4.1.15/debian/liballegro-dev/usr/lib/allegro/4.1': No such file or directory00:58
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solmumahaspeaking of ruby, anyone interested on simple video player (uses mplayer) that can do transcoding and supports seeking01:08
pupnikthat makes no sense01:11
solmumahathe player itself doesn't transcode of course01:12
pupnikso it lets you transcode on the device before playing?01:12
solmumahayou install a small server software on your desktop/server01:12
solmumahait uses vlc for transcoding01:13
pupnikahh that could be useful.  like the gmyth frontend without the heavy myth server backend01:13
solmumahait works like the media would be on the device01:14
toedthat sounds great I was doing something like that with ssh but it was a pain01:14
pupnikyeah i want something like that - tons of vids on the pc, but no easy way to view them quickly on the tablet01:14
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solmumahaserver works with windows/linux/freebsd/os x01:14
solmumahait's a bit rough around the edges, but it works01:15
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solmumahait's not fancy01:17
solmumahabut works on both models and is quite easy to setup01:21
toedlooks cool01:22
solmumahaif anyone is interested, just pm me01:24
DeformatiLooks like a good start.01:24
DeformatiDoesn't look finished to me though.01:25
solmumahait isn't01:26
solmumahabut it's in usable state01:26
solmumahaand not sure what features it would still need01:27
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DeformatiOh wait.01:29
DeformatiWhat are we talking about here?01:29
DeformatiI thought we were talking about the theme.01:29
solmumahanm my comments then01:30
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pupnikGoogle: Results 1 - 50 of about 371,000 for "don't tase me bro".01:35
straind770XAnyone running gnucalc?01:36
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straind770Xerr.. gnumeric ;)01:37
flip^yeah, a little01:48
straind770Xon a 770?01:50
flip^nah, n80001:50
straind770XAh.  Ok.01:50
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ericzso how do i modify the firmware.. so that i can make the error message "Internet connection failed" just a bit more fucking non-specific and uselesS?02:50
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user__hi, I have just read a log where anyone told about building emacs on maemo03:23
user__have does anyone done this?03:24
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saaibstraind, do you know anyone running gnucash in 770 or 800?04:05
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straindsaaib: No.  I'm not familiar with gnucash either. :)04:17
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* Deformati continues to not know how to build gcc04:20
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sbzDeformati: on your n770/800 install this apt packages with command line : # apt-get install gcc-3.4-base libgcc1 dpkg-dev04:24
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DeformatiI do not need to install it/04:24
DeformatiI need to buiild it.04:24
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sbzget the source upstream form the web site and used to ./configure && make && make install, if you want to build it04:25
sbzi ough to build in your scratchbox, create binary package and install on your nokia04:26
sbzbecause the compilation on nokia can do really really long04:27
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Deformatisbz: I understand that, but I would still like to get it working.04:53
Deformatisbz: What do you mean source upstream form?04:54
sbzthe tarball from the gcc website04:56
DeformatiWell yeah, I tried that.05:08
DeformatiAnd it failed to build.05:08
sbzwhy recompile it when you can have a binary package which works good ? do you are a gentoo user ?05:13
DeformatiLets see if I can explain this well.05:14
DeformatiI need to get GDC working.05:14
DeformatiGDC is GCC with D language support.05:15
DeformatiBut in order to build GDC I need to be able to build GCC.05:15
DeformatiMake sense?05:15
unique311man, i just watched a movie that almost made me want to cry......05:15
DeformatiHi unique31105:15
unique311I'm depressed now05:15
unique311whats up Deformati05:15
sbzokay Deformati05:16
_Monkeywell, Deformati is not a fan of games. or planning on learning ARM asm05:16
saaibunique311,  wha't the movie?05:16
unique311ghost of cite soliel.05:16
Deformatiunique311: Did a few more quick faces.05:16
DeformatiAnd now I am drawing fabric.05:16
unique311fabric as in t's05:17
DeformatiYeah, just a shirt thrown in some random layout.05:17
unique311i need to watch something to get me out of this mood i'm in.05:17
unique311i have designs for t's right now..05:18
unique311working on a collection..that i can hopefully shop around...05:18
DeformatiOr, if you want to get really pissed off,  try to get gdc working.05:18
sbzDeformati: do you have binutils 2.13 ? (see there
sbzor more recent05:18
DeformatiThat doesn't help me compile gdc. :D05:20
Deformatiunique311: BTW, I was talking about folds, not designs05:21
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DeformatiLike, throw some clothing at the wall, all the shadows and organic designs created by that.05:22
unique311never heard of it..05:22
unique311wikipedia on it?05:23
Deformatii didn't do that one.05:24
unique311i like that.05:24
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unique311look like there's a person underneath it.05:25
DeformatiYeah, it was one of da vinci's favorite hobbies.05:25
unique311how long did it take you?05:25
DeformatiHe would take a fabric, and draw it several times with the light in different positions.05:25
DeformatiI did not draw that.05:25
DeformatiAs I said.05:25
unique311i need to start drawing more.05:27
unique311everytime i feel like it is not cutting it anymore.05:27
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unique311but resident evil is on my mind right now.05:29
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pupnikannouncement:  i will NOT be compiling 'liquidwar' on maemo08:20
pupnikmy observations show that it is better to align08:22
pupnikwrites on 16-byte boundaries at least on Nokia 770.08:22
pupnikUpdated: Microsoft said Monday it will take the necessary steps to comply with a European Union ruling after an appeal court gave the software giant a stinging defeat. Now Microsoft will have to share code with rivals to ensure interoperability.08:26
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saaibtime for bed08:52
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pupnikliquidwar built... segfaults on handle_mouse though - looks like liballegro doesn't like the ARM cpu10:30
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pupnik_Monkey: Nuvie is the Ultima 6 RPG engine
_MonkeyOK, pupnik.11:50
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alteregoAnyone had any problems with scratchbox on debian?14:48
alteregoUsing the deb repository. There's no /scratchbox/login script.14:48
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flip^i've not even got that far... it just didn't seem to install properly for me, and now i doesn't seem to want to remove or let me add more users14:50
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alteregoStrange .. It's there now O_O14:52
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Molagipupnik how did you get that Nuvie to run on 770?15:33
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kpelhi all15:39
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dortoIs Nuvie like Nethack? :)15:46
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dortoOK, Nuvie is the engine. Is Ultima 6 like Nethack?15:48
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Molaginot really16:06
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Molagii think ultima 6 is a lot better16:06
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koosI've add a mimetype in my aps' .destop file and when I click a link in the browser w/ such a mime, it asks to open it w/ my app but next it says 'Unable to open. File format not supported'. Obviously something is missing, but what?16:09
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toedvim uses 19mb of disk space? that seems quite high16:58
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lardmanhmm, dspgateway error messages are somewhat terse17:37
lardmanAnyone remember the chap who was having troubles playing mp3s, he had an error message like this: "omapdsp: tadd address is ABORTADR."17:38
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hozanoHi Folks. How to run the maemo image-viewer using a specified image as parameter from console?17:46
lardmanwhat's the image view binary name?17:47
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lardmanhmm, no help output, and if you pass a jpg to it, it just hangs17:49
lardmanprobably need to send it over dbus17:50
lardmanthe path that is17:50
_Monkeymaybe is a good idea17:51
hozanoI am developing a file manager, using python...17:52
hozanoand I wish to open the selected file in such file manager...17:53
hozanoThe maemo file manager do it...17:53
lardmansee whether anything passes over dbus when you click on a file in the filemanager then17:54
hozanoBut maemo file manager do not show all system folders.17:54
hozanoHow I do it? It is possible using python?17:55
lardmanwell using dbus is:
lardmanand there's a command (binary) which allows you to listen to the messages going across, so you can work out whether this is how to do it17:57
lardmanbut I can't remember the name; anyone else?17:58
hozanoi am run it.17:58
lardmanthat's the one17:58
hozanoWhen I open a image file from the maemo file manager, the image filename dont is showed in the dbus-monitor lines...17:59
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lardmanhozano: No idea then, sorry18:02
hozanolardman: Thanks18:03
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lardmanhozano: Are you sure you're getting all the messages with dbus-monitor? I seem to remember some switches were needed18:03
hozanoI am not sure.18:05
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lardmanhozano: Just a thought18:06
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lardmanhozano: Try using --system18:07
lardmanWith that I get some dbus output from the filemanager as it starts the image-viewer18:07
hozanolardman: no name again...18:08
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hozanowhen the image viewer is opened from file manager, this strings are showed in the dbus-monitor:18:13
hozanosignal sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> dest=(null destination) interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameOwnerChanged18:13
hozano string ""18:13
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lardmanWell the name need not be sent as an ascii string18:14
lardmanit could be an object, though why I've no idea18:14
lardmanbut more likely, there's a seperate communication between the filemanager and the image-viewer, you may need to look at the --session switch18:15
lardmanI'm assuming --system is broadcast to eveyone, but session is private18:15
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hozanomake sense18:16
hozanono references to image-viewer and the image name...18:18
hozanoOnly using --system gets references to image-viewer18:19
lardmanI've no idea how it works the first time, but if the image-view is already open, you get the following using dbus-monitor --session:18:21
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lardmanmethod call sender=:1.129 ->; member=mime_open18:21
lardman string "file:///home/user/MyDocs/.images/Humpback_whale_Alaska.jpg"18:21
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hozanohmm, Then I am running dbus-monitor in another session...18:22
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* pupnik sucks at packaging18:33
pupnikcheers lardman18:33
pupnikdpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${source:Version}18:34
pupnikthis is probably a problem with debhelper 418:34
lardmanpupnik: what for?18:35
pupnikjust a random cheers18:36
lardmancheers to you too (I've just opened a beer :)18:37
* lardman hopes that the beer will help him see clearly how to debug his dspgateway issues18:38
hozanolardman: Thanks for help me. I am go out. Bye.18:39
lardmanhozano: np18:39
hozanoI will open my beer. :)18:40
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lardmanaaargh, no way to debug dspgateway loader errors18:43
lardmanah, I feel better now18:43
pupnikis there a dspgateway guru channel?18:43
lardmannot sure, I think I'll send an email to the dspgateway-devel list, but I was just trying to figure out any possibilites I'd missed18:44
lardmanI hope it doesn't come down to needing to patch the kernel18:44
lardmanto produce more verbose output18:45
lardmanI may as well grab the source and see whether I can work out where to add some printks though18:46
lardman_Monkey: do you know the url of the maemo source repo?18:46
_Monkeylardman: i don't know18:46
pupnik823458 Sep 23 16:45 pingus_0.7.1-1_armel.deb \o/18:47
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pupnikstill need an elegant solution for installing game data to mmc on package install18:52
lardman_Monkey: is where one can download source packages18:52
_MonkeyOK, lardman.18:52
lardmanpupnik: preinst script to produce a simlink?18:52
lardmancan you not write directly to /media/mmcX ?18:53
pupnikbut user should be notified of this via dialog18:53
pupnikand on n800 some might want mmc2 vs mmc1 on the 77018:53
lardmanhow do the Nokia warnings work?18:53
pupnikso i can probably handle that with a test18:54
lardmanlicence agreements, etc.18:54
pupniki dunno yet - there's a dialog to choose the menu location, so maybe i can use that18:54
pupnikgood point18:54
pupniki've just never seen an app that lets user choose installation directory - that would involve invoking a filebrowser in the most generic case18:54
lardmanit seems to be specific to different packages, so it might be useful18:54
pupnikyeah a message dialogue would be sufficient i think - informing and giving the option to abort18:55
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pupnikpingus: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/ undefined symbol: _XlcI19:07
pupnikhaha google hasn't seen that before19:07
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saaiblol... ircing while shopping groceries19:14
pupnikask the grocer to stock Eichten's Hidden Acres string cheese19:15
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pupnikanyone with a 770 to help test The Mana World build ?19:53
pupnikgetting connection errors to account server, and would like to see if the problem is local to my device19:53
pupnikinstall the .debs with dpkg -i, then the data file, then the bin file as well20:00
pupnikmaybe app manager works as well - dunno if i set the section correctly20:00
pupnikcall me by name if you have a qwuestion - i am chatting in the tmw channel20:01
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pupniksolmumaha: your testing help would be much appreciated -20:03
solmumahapupnik: ran into some depency-problems20:04
solmumahaso i'll need a sec20:04
pupnikok let me know if i forgot to list dependencies20:04
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_Monkeyhey, b0unc320:10
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solmumahapupnik: what's the binary called? doesn't start from menu and can't find a .desktop file for it20:14
pupniktry /usr/games/tmw20:16
solmumahaah, needs xkbd20:18
pupnikif you don't have an existing account - first click on register20:18
pupnikyeah i use synergy for kbd20:18
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solmumahapupnik: seems to freeze on register20:25
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solmumahaserver itself doesn't seem to be down20:28
pupnikyes you should be able to get the updates20:28
pupnikbut then when connecting to account server it will disconnect then keep waiting20:28
solmumahagot the updates yes20:28
pupnik[17:01:19.81] Trying to connect to account server...20:28
pupnik[17:01:19.81] Username is puptest320:28
pupnik[17:01:19.81] Network::Connecting to
pupnik[17:01:19.87] Network::Started session with
pupnik[17:01:24.69] Disconnected.20:28
pupnikthanks solmumaha20:31
solmumahadoesn't start with the config.xml from your site20:34
solmumahacomplains about the resolution20:41
pupnikdangit -- updated the link20:42
toedis there a way to use the cjk handwriting recognition thing without having to switch IM?20:46
toedI don't need pinyin input just the h. r.20:47
solmumahapupnik: now xkbd doesn't work :) worked better, but still the account server problem20:48
pupnikyes for some reason the n800 tester could connect to account server20:49
solmumahawant me to test on n800?20:49
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pupnikyes!  please20:49
pupniki will need to do a dsniff/tcpdump20:50
pupnikbut having confirmed problem/success will help very much20:50
pupnikas that points then to something specific to 77020:50
pupnikbut perhaps it is our network/wlan setup20:51
pupnikso if it works on your N800, then it is confirmed that it is not the wlan setup20:51
pupnikbut that it is specific to 77020:51
pupnikso the N800 test will be very helpful20:51
solmumahaworks with n80020:54
solmumahaquite nicely too20:54
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pupnik:)  :/20:54
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solmumahabut xkbd doesn't seem to work in fullscreen20:55
pupniksomething about the sdl window and focus behavior20:56
solmumahacould the connection problem be libsdl-net specific?20:56
alteregoOoo .. Where's the package?20:57
alteregoIs this that MMORPG?20:57
pupnikyes solmumaha maybe... i'll try to find a different libsdl-net20:57
Deformatitmw = the mana world?20:58
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solmumahaalterego: my app first ;)20:59
alteregoI tried your app :P20:59
alteregoIt didn't work :P20:59
pupnik alterego20:59
alteregoI'm working on ruby-libosso now anyway :P20:59
pupnikgood deal20:59
DeformatiI thought i saw pupnik somewhere before, I knew you from the mana world.20:59
alteregoSmall world.21:00
alteregoFor people with small devices :)21:00
DeformatiI have a big device.21:00
solmumahaso it's not massive multiplayer...21:00
alteregoI like your site pupnik. Though maybe you should make the background image fixed ;)21:00
pupnikis the text readable for you?21:01
pupniki don't bother with html much - just whatever i remember from 199621:03
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alteregoYeah, I can read the text.21:03
alteregoUnless you're talking about the text in the background ^_^21:04
pupnikyour right - the software page now scrolls down - it used to fit on the 770 screen :)21:04
alteregoI'm not even sure you could call that a hack ;)21:06
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pupnikok 'fixed'21:09
alteregochinook beta took ages to install :/21:13
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solmumahaanyone with a linux/freebsd/os x desktop/server willing to test my media transcoding app?21:15
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ericzwhat's a2dp?21:17
_Monkeyit has been said that a2dp is available for N800 with installation instructions here or if you want a nice frontend GUI for a2dp after following the instructions on that page, ask trevarthan or disq about Kagu or bluetooth stereo audio.21:17
ericzhrm, not on the 770? :-/21:17
trevarth1nno, too much CPU usage.21:18
ericzah, stupid useless verizon bluetooth21:18
pupniksolmumaha: do i need ruby on the device?21:18
solmumahayes, sry21:18
solmumahabut it's worth it ;)21:18
pupnikgot a link to howto?21:19
alteregoYou need a howto to install Ruby21:19
alteregoJust download the packages man!21:19
ericzverizon's bluetooth makin' me crazy21:20
ericzanybody got DUN working with it.. without paying for data plan21:20
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alteregoSod it, I'll just delete the static library in the packaging script ..21:37
alteregoAnd man pages ..21:37
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pupnikheh no configure in vlc-trunk21:39
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alteregoI can't find the --disable-static option ..21:39
alteregoI wish there was a list of configure options and make file variables ..21:40
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pupnik./configure --help ?21:40
alteregoA more comprehensive list ;)21:40
alterego--help is fine for common options but it doesn't have everything.21:40
pupnikok depends on the author if they add the specific options to the --help21:40
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ekim|irc- Hi21:43
ekim|irc-where can I get the tkinter module for python2.5 for maemo ?21:44
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lardmanRight, school-boy question now: where do I find the syslog output on the n800?21:46
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kooslardman: cat /dev/null21:48
lardmanwhere's the binary? In the initfs?21:49
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lardman /mnt/initfs/sbin/syslogd21:50
lardmanSo dmesg reads the supposed contents of /var/log/messages (or a circular buffer), what file does syslogd create?21:52
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lardmanhmm, I've installed sysklogd21:56
lardmanI need to log messages created by syslog(LOG_INFO,...)21:56
lardmanshould this work?21:56
lardmanI probably need to fiddle with the conf file, and then tail some text file to which the data are written21:57
* lardman seems to remember a binary called logread that used a circular buffer rather than a file21:57
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micky_anyone knows where can i buy a n800 in Miami ?22:08 ?22:08
micky_i'm in a hurry22:09
micky_can't wait for the mail :-S22:09
micky_I was thinking somewhere i can pick it up22:10
alteregoTry ringing some places up that you think may have them.22:11
micky_thx alterego, I'll keep looking, bestbuy now circuitcity have them in stock22:11
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alteregoWoo .. trimmed off 300K ..22:24
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pupnikgood lord, nothing is running and i have 61MB RAM used and 16MB swap used22:43
pupnikcan i tell kernel "free up mem please"?22:43
micky_pupnik, there's no need to, that's the way linux/unix works22:44
alteregorestart ? :)22:44
pupnikyeah i hear ya22:44
flip^given scratchbox hates me, i think i need something new to occupy me and play with on my n800 this evening22:45
solmumahaflip^: a media streaming app perhaps? :)22:46
pupnikecho 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches22:46
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pupniklol @ /proc/sys/vm/swappiness22:48
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* flip^ grins at solmumaha22:49
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pupnikyaay for dpkg-buildpackage -nc22:57
cosmolooks like that contains a html file with javascript redirection22:59
alteregosolmumaha, ruby-dbus package is uploaded.23:02
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alteregoI guess I'm going to have to start consolidating these packages.23:03
solmumahaand i need to start reading documentation23:04
alteregoI'm gonna have a little play with the dbus binding for a bit :)23:05
alteregoSee if I can't change the volume ;)23:05
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alteregosolmumaha, you can change the volume using GConf.23:10
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alteregoWhich means I can write a nice daemon to counteract the annoyind volume drop when plugging headphones in ..23:11
hozanolardman|drink: I got to open maemo image_viewer using d-bus signaling.23:11
alteregosolmumaha, '/apps/osso/sound/master_volume' is the gconf path. Can be between 0->10023:12
solmumahak, thx23:12
alteregoThankfully we have a gconf binding in the gnome2 package :)23:13
solmumahai'll test it23:14
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Thanatermesisthe last firmware looks slow on my n800, like has a "lag" in the responsiveness sometimes, anybody has noticed that ?23:15
flip^only after i've been fiddling and experimenting for a while... normal use it seems ok23:18
pupniki hate the way application manager scans subdirs23:21
pupniki click on something while its scanning, and by the time it registers the click, it has changed the icons23:21
`0660Thanatermesis, i had it when i used the integrated email client23:23
pupnikwell it's the file-browser whatever23:23
pupniksame thing happens with mplayer when selecting a directory23:23
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alteregoMMC or internal?23:23
Thanatermesis`0660, just exactly what i have used (and configured from first time) some minutes ago23:23
pupnikstill compiling vlc, solmumaha :)23:25
Thanatermesis`0660, do you know if that app is based on other one or if is made from scratch ?23:25
`0660i don't know :/23:26
`0660i just switched to use claws mail. it's fast23:26
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alteregoHmm .. They say gtkhtml is installed .. But I don't believe them.23:33
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solmumahaalterego: works nicely23:37
alteregoAny requests after libosso?23:38
ekim|ircI have a nokia 770 ... and xchat wont go fullscreen23:38
ekim|ircWhats up with that ?23:38
solmumahaalterego: xmms2 binds :)23:39
alteregoWho's going to install xmms2 on a tablet?23:39
ekim|ircis there a package for it ?23:39
* flip^ stands by irssi over xchat any day ;)23:40
solmumahawell not maybe xmms2 but a client23:40
alteregoA remote control? Or stream?23:40
alteregoI don't use xmms so I don't really know what you mean :)23:40
alteregoAh, that'd be easy.23:40
unique311solmumaha: visualization works?23:40
alteregoxmms can have keyboard short cuts right?23:41
solmumahaxmms2 is basically a server23:41
alteregoI was thinking of writing a BT HID client :)23:41
alteregoSo you can use the tablets as an input mechanism for a computer with bluetooth.23:41
solmumahathat would be nice too23:41
alteregoThen you could use it with Winamp ;)23:42
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solmumahaxmms2 is very different from the old xmms23:42
alteregoI'll have a look at it :)23:42
alteregoMy N800 is my media player now ..23:42
solmumahai have it running on server and i control it via that ajax web client23:42
alteregoYeah, that's cool.23:42
alteregoI liked what you did with that.23:43
solmumahacould also make a client for tablet, though it works nicely via opera/microb23:43
alteregoI think after libosso, I'll start work on the future ruby-maemo23:43
alteregoI.E. chinook and Ruby 223:43
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toeddoes anyone have a vlc web interface thing that's a bit more tablet-friendly than the default one?23:50
solmumahafor transcoding video?23:51
solmumahaor as remote control?23:51
toedremote control23:52
solmumahaah, dunno then23:52
toedI saw your transcoding thing last night23:52
MDKalterego: there are ruby packages for n800, right?23:52
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alteregoMDK, yes.23:52
alteregoN800 and N77023:53
alteregoAnd soon chinook on the N80023:53
solmumahatoed: video or audio?23:53
solmumahai have a web interface for xmms2 on linux/freebsd for audio23:54
solmumahaworks nicely with n80023:54
toedvideo, but what's the difference?23:55
solmumahanm then, xmms2 is for audio only23:55
pupnikxmms2 wasn't a trivial build23:56
pupniknone of the media players i tried were 'low hanging fruit'23:56
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pupnikxmms, xmms2, bmp, bmp2, several different versions etc23:57
unique311wow check this out.23:57
unique311old clip23:57
unique311steve woz is a true geek....23:57
MDKalterego: it would be cool to provide rails + one of the lightweight servers + integration23:58
pupnikunique311: - i got a new pingus build fresh from today's 0.7.1 release - would you be able to try it out on your N800?23:58
MDKto be able to run rails applications locally, such as wikis etc.23:58
MDKthere are some stand-alone interesting rails apps23:59
unique311i will..23:59
unique311later on probably..when i feel like messing with the n80023:59
Thanatermesiswhat is the better FS to format the MMC card for boot from it ? ext2 ?23:59
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