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pupnik | _Monkey: pentagram is an open-source game engine to play Origin System's "Ultima 8 - Pagan" role-playing game. It is still in development - svn ports available at http://pupnik.de/pentagram.html | 00:27 |
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_Monkey | OK, pupnik. | 00:27 |
b0unc3 | hi | 00:27 |
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saaib | mhh.. what is the source problem when trying to start the 770, then the Nokia logo displays, the scrollbar move a little and then it turns off | 00:39 |
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pupnik | maybe corrupt fs | 00:40 |
saaib | battery was full last time I turned on successfully | 00:40 |
saaib | see, now that i try to turn it on it doesn't even show the nokia logo | 00:40 |
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saaib | removed battery, re-connect it, plugged in the power connector cable now it shows the battery charging icon | 00:45 |
saaib | man, what a mess | 00:45 |
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saaib | does anyone knows if invernation is enabled in the 770 kernel? | 00:47 |
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saaib | I turn it on and it immediately showed the two hand and starting sound screen | 00:48 |
saaib | no scrollbar or nokia logo | 00:48 |
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pupnik | 12-16 fps walking with mouse :) | 00:52 |
pupnik | awesome... | 00:52 |
[31d1] | did you put weird stuff in your .profile? | 00:52 |
[31d1] | saaib ^ | 00:52 |
saaib | [31d1], no, I haven't mess with .profile or any other file, I was looking at a video, then i closed the video player, and while the main screen I turn it of | 00:53 |
[31d1] | :( sounds not-so-good | 00:54 |
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saaib | so, what do you do when you won't be using your 770 or 800? turn it off or just cover the screen? | 00:54 |
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[31d1] | i usually just cover the screen | 00:55 |
[31d1] | depends on how often you use it | 00:55 |
saaib | only at nights (except today) | 00:55 |
[31d1] | i'm always sshing into it and messing with it so i dont turn it fully off a lot | 00:55 |
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bearclaw_ | is there a doc on how to add menu entries? | 00:57 |
[31d1] | was your battery low when you turned it off - some reports about turning it off when battery is low causing trouble | 00:57 |
saaib | [31d1], before turning it off I saw the battery icon as "full" | 00:58 |
[31d1] | ok then not that | 00:58 |
sp3000 | bearclaw_: menu? | 00:58 |
bearclaw_ | where all aps go | 01:00 |
sp3000 | http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/howto_making_an_application_package_bora.html | 01:00 |
bearclaw_ | what I want to start is a qt app | 01:00 |
[31d1] | you can moe stuff around in control panel | 01:00 |
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saaib | [31d1], what you mean move stuff around? I just launched control panel | 01:01 |
[31d1] | task manager i think | 01:01 |
[31d1] | that was for bearclaw_ | 01:02 |
saaib | [31d1], hehe ok :) | 01:02 |
[31d1] | sry saaib i have no further ideas - if i were you i'd be trying to reflash | 01:02 |
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saaib | how mature is 2007HE to use it in a 770? | 01:03 |
bearclaw_ | aha ok a .desktop with an exec entry is enough | 01:03 |
saaib | [31d1], about the low battery issue, what's the problem and how to solve it? | 01:05 |
[31d1] | i feel like they said you turn it off and let it charge for a couple hours before trying to turn it back on | 01:06 |
pupnik | good LORD it's even fast with scale2x | 01:07 |
pupnik | 9-14fps | 01:07 |
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SE-Wilco2 | Is there an IRC client with text-to-speech output? I suppose I could pipe the text IRC client to flite. | 01:29 |
pupnik | a simple way would be to turn logging on, then tail -f logfile | flite <whatever> | 01:30 |
SE-Wilco2 | Good point. | 01:31 |
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SE-Wilco2 | Gaim doesn't seem stable on OS 2007, so I might have to pick a new client anyway. At least logging is a nearly universal option. | 01:32 |
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alterego | SE-Wilco2, why aren't you using Pidgin? | 01:44 |
SE-Wilco2 | I've had bad luck with Pidgin on Windows and Pidgin is still marked Beta with installation difficulties on N800. I've been using Gaim for years. | 01:45 |
SE-Wilco2 | s/Windows/MS-Windows/ | 01:45 |
infobot | SE-Wilco2 meant: I've had bad luck with Pidgin on MS-Windows and Pidgin is still marked Beta with installation difficulties on N800. I've been using Gaim for years. | 01:45 |
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SE-Wilco2 | s/bad luck/crashes/ | 01:52 |
infobot | SE-Wilco2 meant: I've had crashes with Pidgin on Windows and Pidgin is still marked Beta with installation difficulties on N800. I've been using Gaim for years. | 01:52 |
SE-Wilco2 | s/SE-Wilco2/SE-Wilco/ | 01:52 |
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alterego | Offical Announcement: Ruby/Maemo: http://maemo.rubyx.co.uk/projects/ruby-maemo | 02:20 |
alterego | :) | 02:20 |
pupnik | hice | 02:21 |
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alterego | Now to read up more about SVN :) | 02:23 |
alterego | I'm loving it so far ^_^ | 02:23 |
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pupnik | very nice to have new people contributing stuff, alterego | 02:40 |
pupnik | don't be disappointed if the response isn't overwhelming - it's a small community compared to pc-land | 02:41 |
alterego | Yeah, I know :) | 02:41 |
alterego | Besides, I'm not sure my server could handle any significant load ;) | 02:41 |
alterego | Lets hope I don't get slashdot'd ^_^ | 02:41 |
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jufo | does anyone know what is the status of maemo webkit port? | 02:48 |
unique311 | ruby... | 02:50 |
alterego | Ruby! | 02:50 |
unique311 | was hoping the monkey had a response to it.. | 02:53 |
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alterego | monkey? | 03:03 |
_Monkey | somebody said monkey was a not-very-smart bot | 03:03 |
alterego | Ah, monkey .. | 03:03 |
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pupnik | lol, just checked out the first computer RPG game i played in 1980 -- What cost $34.99 in 1980 would cost $93.69 in 2006. | 03:09 |
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unique311 | alterego: did you add your debs to the garage? | 03:14 |
alterego | No, | 03:14 |
unique311 | downloading them pretty slow | 03:14 |
alterego | I'll looik into it. | 03:15 |
unique311 | k | 03:15 |
unique311 | probably being downloaded by alot of people right now. | 03:15 |
unique311 | lots of lurkers in here.. | 03:15 |
alterego | What's the rate you're getting? | 03:16 |
unique311 | 7Kb.s | 03:16 |
alterego | Urgh :/ | 03:16 |
unique311 | usually in the 400 | 03:16 |
unique311 | rubyforge has lots of little apps i want to see if they compile with your release.. | 03:17 |
alterego | Cool. | 03:18 |
unique311 | being a newly addict to sudoku | 03:18 |
alterego | Unfortunately, rubygems is _extremely_ slow, In fact, I wouldn't use it at all on the devices. | 03:18 |
alterego | :) | 03:19 |
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unique311 | i'll see how sudoku goes... | 03:19 |
unique311 | alterego: guess this message means it needs Qt? | 03:24 |
unique311 | rsudoku.rb:3:in `require': no such file to load -- Qt (LoadError) | 03:24 |
alterego | Yes | 03:25 |
alterego | Maybe you could port it to hildon ;) | 03:25 |
alterego | /gtk :) | 03:25 |
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Deformati | Blarg. | 03:30 |
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SE-Wilco2 | pupnik: Is that the eBay price of that RPG game? | 03:36 |
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pupnik | nah it was the original sale price in 1980 | 03:50 |
pupnik | adjusted for inflatino to 2006 figures (and that number is in reality about 20% too low) | 03:50 |
pupnik | what happened with gimp/gimpshop unique311 ? is someone working on it? | 03:52 |
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unique311 | no... | 03:56 |
pupnik | ok | 03:56 |
unique311 | i was told by the guys at #gimp it would never work. | 03:56 |
pupnik | heheh | 03:56 |
unique311 | plus only like real old versions of gimp would run on the n800 | 03:56 |
unique311 | so they didn't want to bother.. | 03:57 |
pupnik | did you show them a screenshot? | 03:57 |
unique311 | yes | 03:57 |
pupnik | :) | 03:57 |
unique311 | new version would compile but not run | 03:57 |
pupnik | ah | 03:57 |
Deformati | Why not? | 03:58 |
unique311 | never bothered with it to find out. | 03:58 |
unique311 | it would crash after the splash | 03:59 |
unique311 | 2.0 ran | 03:59 |
unique311 | video on youtube still | 03:59 |
pupnik | yeah... just curious | 03:59 |
pupnik | did you look get any menu items repositioned for touchmegames? | 04:00 |
pupnik | it needs a quit button :) | 04:00 |
Deformati | Hmm. | 04:01 |
Deformati | The 770 uses the gnueabi, correct? | 04:01 |
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Deformati | Someone answer? | 04:07 |
nelson | not yet they haven't. | 04:08 |
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Deformati | What abi does it use now? | 04:08 |
nelson | Anybody know if there's a way to associate the camera opening signal with a different program than GChat. | 04:08 |
nelson | Deformati: no idea. | 04:09 |
SE-Wilco2 | For some reason when the Camera program is running then opening the camera does not seem to waken GChat. | 04:10 |
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Deformati | Hmm, google says OS2006 uses eabi, but that makes no sense since gcc 3 does not have eabi. | 04:12 |
Deformati | Ugh. | 04:12 |
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pupnik | strange there's no xmkmf / imake in gregale.. | 04:21 |
alterego | It's in gconf | 04:21 |
pupnik | hmm ty | 04:22 |
pupnik | so i installed gconf2 gconf2 (2.6.4.15-osso4) . libgconf2-6 (2.6.4.15-osso4) libgconf2-dev (2.6.4.15-osso4) | 04:23 |
pupnik | make: xmkmf: Command not found | 04:24 |
pupnik | and there's no "imake" | 04:24 |
pupnik | so what do i do? change the build system of my app'? | 04:26 |
pupnik | hah, just use xmkmf/imake from the host system... seems to work | 04:33 |
pupnik | with a bit of backtracking afterwards | 04:33 |
pupnik | alterego: any comments on this? | 04:34 |
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alucardo_6666 | i have a big problem about aircrack.. i execute the "aireplay-ng" in the xterm in my n770 , and this " not found " some idea? | 05:14 |
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pupnik | built tmw_0.0.23-2_armel.deb | 05:19 |
pupnik | alucardo_6666: i think it is not included | 05:19 |
alucardo_6666 | ok Thank you pupnik | 05:20 |
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alucardo_6666 | pupnik you not have the tmw_0.0.23-2_armel.deb =P ? | 05:21 |
alucardo_6666 | xD srry i need try.. | 05:21 |
pupnik | i just built it | 05:23 |
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pupnik | somebody made it already? | 05:24 |
alucardo_6666 | "impossible install , packake incompatible" | 05:24 |
alucardo_6666 | T,T | 05:25 |
pupnik | where did you get tmw? | 05:25 |
alucardo_6666 | http://ftp.gnuab.org/pub/debian-hurd/pool-armel/main/t/tmw/ | 05:25 |
alucardo_6666 | i download , but this package is no compatible | 05:25 |
pupnik | wow nice | 05:25 |
pupnik | i didn't know there was an armel | 05:26 |
pupnik | mine will work i think | 05:26 |
alucardo_6666 | T_T i really need the suck aireplay.. im need search more :S | 05:26 |
pupnik | search #maemo logs, and internettablettalk.com forums | 05:27 |
alucardo_6666 | ok , i search , tnx again pupnik | 05:27 |
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pupnikafk | The Mana World is a free online role-playing game... http://pupnik.de/tmw_0_23_nokia_770.jpg | 07:27 |
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pupnikafk | ... and ya don't stop | 07:28 |
iball | you got mana world working on the IT?!?!?! | 07:28 |
pupnikafk | network problem right now - can U help? | 07:28 |
iball | probably not...but what's theproblem anyway? | 07:29 |
pupnikafk | d/n connect to account server | 07:29 |
pupnikafk | it connects to the update server and downloads updates | 07:29 |
iball | that you, ArnimS? | 07:29 |
pupnikafk | then i see a | 07:29 |
pupnikafk | yes | 07:29 |
pupnikafk | then i see a CLOSE_WAIT on the server connection | 07:29 |
pupnikafk | and no error in the log | 07:29 |
pupnikafk | so i'll probably have to wait until i can work with one of the core devs | 07:30 |
pupnikafk | do you have a n800 iball? | 07:30 |
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iball | excellent..hello. I see you've been busy lately porting over apps....hmm...have you wiresharked it yet to sniff the traffic? | 07:30 |
pupnikafk | not yet | 07:30 |
pupnikafk | i don't know the code well enough to learn much anyway | 07:30 |
iball | run wireshark on a PC/Mac that's hooked up to a hub connected to both your internet connection and wi-fi AP and filter it for theIP address of the IT so you can see EXACTLY what's happening on the wire. | 07:32 |
pupnikafk | yeah good call | 07:32 |
iball | I don't have a hub here and no layer 3 switch to setup a monitoringport on or I would take a stab at it for you. | 07:33 |
pupnikafk | hold a minute and i can get the stuff uploaded | 07:34 |
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iball | how is xu4 working out? Is it "compatible" with the xkb you used for DOSBOX U4? | 07:35 |
iball | Going to load up Pentagram as soon as my U8 download finished. | 07:36 |
iball | anyone here know EXACTLY how to get the RTCOMM beta working right with Asterisk PBX? | 07:37 |
pupnikafk | http://pupnik.de/tmw.html | 07:39 |
pupnikafk | haven't played with xu4 in ages - always use the bt keybd for that stuff | 07:40 |
pupnikafk | yeah i only had time to test pentagram for a few minutes | 07:40 |
pupnikafk | but it's wicked fast | 07:40 |
pupnikafk | no comparison to exult | 07:41 |
iball | Hey Arnim, I see you "skipped" Ultima 6. Any reason? There's code out there for it. http://nuvie.sourceforge.net | 07:43 |
iball | pentagram is faster than Exult?!?! Or are you saying xu4 is faster? | 07:43 |
pupnikafk | pentagram is way faster than exult | 07:44 |
pupnikafk | i have nuvie compiled here but i don't remember what didn't work with it | 07:44 |
iball | looking at the progress page it seems it's not finished yet. | 07:46 |
iball | My favorite trick... | 07:46 |
iball | How to kill Lord British | 07:46 |
iball | Find, buy, steal or dial up a GLASS SWORD. (Item #48) | 07:46 |
iball | Wait until Lord British is asleep in bed at night. | 07:46 |
iball | Do not wake him, or he will kill you. | 07:46 |
iball | Now, creep up to him and ATTACK him with the GLASS SWORD. | 07:46 |
iball | Steal his stuff and take the Throne. That's fixed the bastard! | 07:46 |
pupnikafk | heh i remember reading about that | 07:50 |
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pupnikafk | nuvie / ultima 6 running now | 07:59 |
iball | holy crap, you got it running?!?! | 07:59 |
pupnikafk | yep | 07:59 |
iball | I just installed TMW now... | 07:59 |
pupnikafk | nuvie has a lot of sloppy stuff that needs fixing up though | 08:00 |
pupnikafk | but it runs | 08:00 |
iball | what's the command to run TMW? | 08:00 |
pupnikafk | oh oops | 08:00 |
pupnikafk | /usr/games/tmw | 08:00 |
iball | it runs...downloads the data | 08:01 |
iball | argh....lemme get my BT keyboard out | 08:02 |
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iball | TMW works! | 08:03 |
pupnikafk | ?!?! | 08:04 |
pupnikafk | awesome | 08:04 |
iball | Instead of trying to login as an existing character I just created a new one....I'm in the castle starter room now...moving around with BT arrow keys | 08:04 |
pupnikafk | are you on an n800? | 08:04 |
iball | yup | 08:04 |
iball | maybe that's it? | 08:04 |
iball | You should try adjusting the screen size or something... | 08:05 |
pupnikafk | you clicked register to set up a new character? | 08:05 |
iball | yup | 08:05 |
pupnikafk | i did - 800x480 fullscreen | 08:05 |
iball | register to setup a new character...try it on your N770 | 08:05 |
pupnikafk | i did | 08:05 |
pupnikafk | are some of the graphic elements below the bottom of the screen? | 08:05 |
iball | nope...the full-screen key pops the little map on and off | 08:06 |
pupnikafk | oh that doesn't work | 08:06 |
iball | d-pad works for controlling the character | 08:06 |
pupnikafk | hmm | 08:06 |
pupnikafk | did you put the config.xml into ~/.tmw, or did you start without it | 08:06 |
iball | I staerted without it | 08:06 |
iball | started without it | 08:07 |
pupnikafk | ok maybe that was the problem here | 08:07 |
iball | maybe that's the problem? | 08:07 |
pupnikafk | you can change 'screen' to 1 in config.xml to get fullscreen | 08:07 |
iball | ah, great minds....actually, I plain ol' forgot about the config.xml file | 08:07 |
pupnikafk | do you get any sound with the default config? | 08:07 |
iball | took a screenshot...I'll look to see if it created a config.xml file | 08:07 |
iball | no sound | 08:07 |
iball | menu key pops up the inventory | 08:08 |
iball | escape key pops up the "Do you wish to quit" dialog | 08:08 |
iball | which I did to make sure it works...it does | 08:08 |
pupnikafk | yeah we might need onscreen buttons for some commands | 08:09 |
pupnikafk | thanks for testing! that made m y morning | 08:09 |
iball | morning? You must be in Europe....it's 8 after midnight here | 08:09 |
iball | what email address do I send my screenshot to? | 08:09 |
pupnikafk | http://pupnik.de/fbk.html for the addy - don't post it here pls | 08:10 |
iball | ok, check your email | 08:13 |
pupnikafk | hows the scrolling speed? pretty chunky framerate? | 08:14 |
iball | it's pretty damn fast! I'm impressed! | 08:14 |
iball | about as fast as the PC/Mac cersion! | 08:14 |
iball | version! | 08:14 |
pupnikafk | nice | 08:14 |
iball | ok, remove the config.xml from your page....it auto-generates one | 08:15 |
pupnikafk | have you played tmw before? | 08:15 |
iball | played it a little on the mac weeks ago when I first said in the forums someone should port it over | 08:15 |
pupnikafk | if you know how to play, i'd appreciate your help in working out the bugs and stuff | 08:15 |
pupnikafk | ok :) | 08:15 |
iball | I know how to play | 08:15 |
iball | the auto-generated config.xml file is EMPTY | 08:16 |
pupnikafk | great - i'll fix up the debs so they work with app manager and then try to figure out what buttons to map | 08:16 |
pupnikafk | yeah that's what i saw, so i figured i had to copy one in | 08:16 |
pupnikafk | but - apparently not :) | 08:16 |
pupnikafk | right - thanks for your help - let me know what buttons you want mapped please | 08:16 |
pupnikafk | drop it in an email - i have to run now | 08:17 |
iball | I'll let you know as well as dropping off a copy of my TMW.log to give you more detail | 08:17 |
iball | Here's a tidbit of the log file... | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.35] State: CONNECTING | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.35] Memorizing selected character Nonya | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.35] Trying to connect to map server... | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.35] Map: new_3-1.gat | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.35] Network::Connecting to 81.161.192.4:5122 | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.52] Network::Started session with 81.161.192.4:532 | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.69] Unhandled packet: b0 | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.69] Unhandled packet: b0 | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.69] Unhandled packet: b0 | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.69] Protocol: Player start position: (29, 28), Direction: 1 | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.69] Unhandled packet: 97 | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.69] Unhandled packet: b0 | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.69] Unhandled packet: b0 | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.69] Unhandled packet: b0 | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.69] Unhandled packet: b0 | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.69] Unhandled packet: b0 | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.69] Unhandled packet: 8e | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.71] Sound::fadeOutMusic() Fading-out (1000 ms) | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.71] ResourceManager::release(graphics/images/login_wallpaper.png) | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.71] State: GAME | 08:18 |
iball | [05:01:32.71] Window::Window("") | 08:18 |
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iball | still no sound though | 08:19 |
iball | heh....flood | 08:19 |
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ScisserFeind | Hello? | 08:29 |
ScisserFeind | Noone is here? | 08:32 |
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ScisserFeind | ^U | 08:37 |
ScisserFeind | ? | 08:37 |
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Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:14 |
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BadRobot | hi there | 11:19 |
BadRobot | Is there any N800 user in here? | 11:20 |
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Jaffa | BadRobot: wassup? | 11:51 |
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Jaffa | "Don't taser me, dude!" (or whatever it was he said) | 12:13 |
pupnik | :) internet memes... | 12:14 |
pupnik | of course, tasers have killed several people so far | 12:14 |
pupnik | so it's not non-lethal | 12:14 |
pupnik | what's so wonderful about information and open source | 12:18 |
pupnik | is that the 'tragedy of the commons' does not apply | 12:18 |
pupnik | you can create something, and it is forever an asset to humanity | 12:18 |
pupnik | it can not be diminished by use | 12:18 |
pupnik | only increased | 12:18 |
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alterego | Hmmm .. | 14:43 |
alterego | Having trouble with the chinook beta SDK :/ | 14:43 |
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rcknight | hello | 16:38 |
_Monkey | hey, rcknight | 16:38 |
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cbx33 | hi all | 16:38 |
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Deformati | I am confused. | 16:55 |
Deformati | If armel was introduced in gcc 4.1 how is gcc 3.4.4 included in scratchbox? | 16:55 |
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zuh | Deformati: The gcc maemo uses is 3.x + loads of patches from CS | 17:12 |
Deformati | Ah. | 17:12 |
Deformati | I see. | 17:12 |
Deformati | Well that is interesting. | 17:12 |
Deformati | Is there any particular reason that 4.x is not used? | 17:13 |
zuh | I dunno, probably not. | 17:13 |
Deformati | Have you ever compiled onboard gcc? | 17:14 |
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zuh | GCC on target machines to me seems like a ridiculous waste of time so no :) | 17:15 |
Deformati | Not if I want to fool around wherever I am. | 17:16 |
Deformati | A lot of people use lisp and java on target machines. | 17:16 |
Deformati | Why not D? | 17:16 |
zuh | or Python... | 17:16 |
_Monkey | python is at pymaemo.garage.maemo.org! | 17:16 |
zuh | _Monkey: Shut up | 17:16 |
_Monkey | zuh: excuse me? | 17:16 |
Deformati | Yeah, another good example. | 17:16 |
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cbx33 | man i love my n800 | 17:17 |
cbx33 | was great on holiday | 17:17 |
cbx33 | watching movies | 17:17 |
Deformati | Well. | 17:21 |
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Deformati | Python is a little different I guess. | 17:22 |
Deformati | Because you need the python interpreter to use apps it made. | 17:22 |
Deformati | But whatever. | 17:22 |
_Monkey | whatever is fun for you. More power to ya | 17:22 |
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iball | Yo, Arnim, you out there? | 17:37 |
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trevarthan | does the maemo rss reader support ssl? | 17:42 |
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trevarthan | i'd like to use it with my trac site. | 17:42 |
jani | not 100% sure but i have a feeling that the old download code didnt support ssl .. | 17:43 |
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jani | latest trunk we have uses gnome-vfs for all the downloads so atleast in theory ssl might be supported in future atleast. | 17:44 |
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jani | thats in theory thou.. | 17:45 |
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trevarthan | maybe i should modify my server to allow non ssl connections. | 17:47 |
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Deformati | Hmm. | 18:09 |
Deformati | I am wondering. | 18:09 |
Deformati | Can I get an armel cross compiler working without scratchbox? | 18:09 |
Deformati | Because scratchbox does not work on my os. | 18:09 |
jani | which os that is ? | 18:09 |
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Deformati | archlinux | 18:11 |
Deformati | It doesn't have proper kernel modules. | 18:11 |
Deformati | erm | 18:11 |
Deformati | Features | 18:11 |
Deformati | And I don't want to recompile my kernel. | 18:11 |
Deformati | I am currently using scratchbox via dual boot. | 18:11 |
Deformati | But that is no fun. | 18:11 |
cbx33 | why no kernel recompile? | 18:12 |
Deformati | Because. | 18:13 |
Deformati | I don't like custom kernels. | 18:13 |
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cbx33 | hehe | 18:21 |
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jani | if its the same thing as with fedora .. | 18:23 |
jani | there was just one parameter to set in kernel that does not require recompilation of kernel .. | 18:23 |
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jani | just echo something > /proc/something else .. dont remember what it was thou anymore, too long time since i setup my fedora box .. | 18:24 |
Deformati | Whatever. | 18:28 |
_Monkey | rumour has it whatever is fun for you. More power to ya | 18:28 |
Deformati | I still don't like scratchbox. | 18:28 |
Deformati | It is yuckyugleh. | 18:28 |
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dorto | do people have any favourite UPnP servers to work with N800? | 18:56 |
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dorto | Nero didn't work for me but Windows Media Player 11 is streaming quite well.. | 19:01 |
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ysss | I use TVersity | 19:11 |
ysss | works alright with Media Streamer | 19:11 |
dorto | ysss, ok, thanks. | 19:11 |
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ysss | The thing is, for N800 the video needs to be transcoded | 19:12 |
ysss | and i don't think you can seek transcoded streams. | 19:12 |
dorto | what if I share N800 compatible videos in TVersity? | 19:15 |
dorto | that should be fine right | 19:15 |
unique311 | http://www.msdewey.com/ | 19:22 |
unique311 | hot | 19:22 |
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unique311 | actually got hits for unique311 | 19:23 |
unique311 | she disrespectful | 19:23 |
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unique311 | 's | 19:23 |
unique311 | that chick has an attitude..wonder if it works on the n800 | 19:23 |
* Deformati is bored. | 19:25 | |
Deformati | And I still cannot compile onboard gcc. | 19:25 |
unique311 | check out ms dewey | 19:25 |
unique311 | she entertains | 19:26 |
Deformati | Nah. | 19:26 |
unique311 | flash really sucks on the n800 | 19:27 |
Deformati | Has anyone ever compiled onboard gcc? | 19:27 |
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cbx33 | flash does suck on the n800 | 19:34 |
Thanatermesis | why flash sucks on n800 ? | 19:37 |
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dorto | flash movies from the websites don't play smoothly on N800 but play good enough once downloaded/fully cached | 19:41 |
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Thanatermesis | hum | 19:42 |
Thanatermesis | not exist a patch for that flash thing ? i think that i have see something about a "patch" for it somewhere | 19:42 |
disq | not likely, it's not open source | 19:43 |
dorto | playing flash movies improved with the new ITOS update but is still not completely smooth they say | 19:44 |
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kpel | hi all | 19:54 |
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ysss | dorto: stil there? | 20:02 |
ysss | dorto: yeah, there's a setting in TVersity to auto-determine the client device and set wether the video needs to be transcoded or not. | 20:03 |
ysss | dorto: i don't know whether that actually works or not. All my media files are higher rates\resolution than the N800 can handle. | 20:03 |
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cbx33 | when was the latest n800 binary released? | 20:05 |
cbx33 | and what new stuff does it bring? | 20:05 |
fer__ | Hi | 20:06 |
fer__ | Has anyone got "unionfs" to work on a recent fw release on the 770 or n800 ? | 20:06 |
fer__ | do you have the kernel modules? | 20:07 |
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Thanatermesis | can anybody tell me if /boot on n800 contains anything ? | 20:26 |
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Thanatermesis | i have nothing on /boot | 20:30 |
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TPC | ~ $ ls /boot/ | 20:30 |
TPC | ~ $ | 20:30 |
infobot | rumour has it, $ is a dollar sign | 20:30 |
Thanatermesis | ok | 20:30 |
Thanatermesis | im trying to put the initfs_flasher thing for 2º boot option (for boot from the mmc card) but i get a error | 20:30 |
Thanatermesis | cut: initfs/etc/initfs_version: No such file or directory | 20:31 |
Thanatermesis | !!! unkown initfs version, cannot install bootmenu | 20:31 |
Thanatermesis | Cannot find initfs.bootmenu.jffs2, something faild, nothing falshed | 20:31 |
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ekim|irc | http://tabletschool.blogspot.com/2007/09/nokia-n800-how-to-activate-secret-built.html | 20:36 |
ekim|irc | Is this only in the n800 ? | 20:36 |
Thanatermesis | no idea ? ok... i think that's time to edit the scripting files... | 20:37 |
ekim|irc | huh ? | 20:39 |
Thanatermesis | ekim|irc, sorry, im talking about my before question | 20:40 |
ekim|irc | I just got a verizon usb evdo modem | 20:42 |
ekim|irc | is there any way I can use that with my n770 | 20:42 |
ekim|irc | also...where is the n770 microphone located ? | 20:43 |
ekim|irc | I know it has one | 20:43 |
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iballAFK | The EVDO modem is for your laptop? I know with Mac OS X it's simple to configure the built-in wi-fi on the laptop to act as an access point, but with Windows...meh, it's a pain. | 20:45 |
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Thanatermesis | uh, oh... that looks bad | 20:47 |
Thanatermesis | my initfs seems EMPTY after a error trying to install it (disk full) | 20:47 |
Thanatermesis | i think that if I reboot the n800, it can't boot anymore | 20:47 |
Thanatermesis | TPC, can you help me ? i need to know what looks like my initfs, can you do that and paste me the result on http://paste.debian.net ? mkdir -p tmpinitfs ; mount -t jffs2 -o ro /dev/mtdblock3 tmpinitfs ; ls -R tmpinitfs ; umount tmpinitfs | 20:50 |
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Thanatermesis | mmh... i think that i have a 'dd' of that partition.. | 21:02 |
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saaib | morning all | 21:04 |
saaib | I'm trying to add the canola repo for the 770, but the provided url does not exist. Dows anyone knows a working one? | 21:05 |
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Thanatermesis | Please, can anybody tell me if doing that, has a list files (and dirs) for result ? mkdir -p tmpinitfs ; mount -t jffs2 -o ro /dev/mtdblock3 tmpinitfs ; ls -R tmpinitfs ; umount tmpinitfs | 21:13 |
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saaib | Thanatermesis, it should return a list of directories and files, what exactly are you trying to accomplish? | 21:16 |
Thanatermesis | saaib, | 21:16 |
_Monkey | saaib, are you familiar with the debian way of things? (: | 21:16 |
Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> uh, oh... that looks bad | 21:16 |
Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> my initfs seems EMPTY after a error trying to install it (disk full) | 21:16 |
Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> i think that if I reboot the n800, it can't boot anymore | 21:16 |
saaib | (unless the user you're running the shell can't create a directory or mount directly the device into the directory) | 21:17 |
Thanatermesis | saaib, you can be root ? | 21:17 |
saaib | Thanatermesis, there is a package for becomming root in the shell | 21:17 |
Thanatermesis | saaib, yes... i mean you, you need to be root for make this command | 21:17 |
saaib | Thanatermesis, that's correct | 21:18 |
Thanatermesis | saaib, try if works: ssh root@localhost | 21:18 |
Thanatermesis | password: rootme | 21:18 |
_Monkey | i guess rootme is the default pw? | 21:18 |
Thanatermesis | yes | 21:18 |
saaib | i don't have ssh enabled, but i'll run the console | 21:18 |
Thanatermesis | yes but... you need to be root :/ | 21:19 |
Thanatermesis | _Monkey, can you have a root terminal ? | 21:19 |
_Monkey | thanatermesis: i haven't a clue | 21:19 |
saaib | I understand, still I can run 'su' | 21:19 |
Thanatermesis | saaib, yes but i don't think that you can be root without ssh | 21:19 |
Thanatermesis | saaib, try: sudo gainroot | 21:20 |
Thanatermesis | saaib, help me with that and i help you with canola ;) | 21:23 |
Thanatermesis | _Monkey, do you have installed ssh or dropbear ? | 21:24 |
_Monkey | no idea, thanatermesis | 21:24 |
saaib | Thanatermesis, I'm installing ssh... | 21:25 |
Thanatermesis | saaib, thx | 21:25 |
disq | _Monkey: who is _monkey? | 21:25 |
_Monkey | somebody said i was the best programmer in the whole freenode IRC right now | 21:25 |
disq | _Monkey: forget i | 21:25 |
_Monkey | disq, I didn't have anything matching i | 21:25 |
Thanatermesis | heh :P | 21:26 |
Thanatermesis | _Monkey, exec: apt-get install dropbear | 21:26 |
_Monkey | Thanatermesis: huh? | 21:26 |
Thanatermesis | _Monkey, spank yourself | 21:27 |
_Monkey | Thanatermesis: huh? | 21:27 |
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iball | packet analysis sucks | 21:28 |
iball | nothing quite like telling a customer that the reason his network is "slow" is because almost all of his 100+ users are using eDonkey and Bittorrent as well as YahooIM and AIM. | 21:28 |
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saaib | Thanatermesis, that's correct, i see the filesystem | 21:29 |
Thanatermesis | saaib, dropbear is sufficient for ssh: http://www.komputika.net/maemo/index.php?dir=./&file=dropbear_0.48-0.1_armel.deb | 21:29 |
Thanatermesis | oh | 21:29 |
Thanatermesis | saaib, hurm... then i have removed all that partition :/ | 21:29 |
Thanatermesis | saaib, what kind of files you see, for example ? | 21:30 |
saaib | Thanatermesis, what were you trying to do? | 21:30 |
saaib | Thanatermesis, I see the whole file structure for the filesystem | 21:30 |
Thanatermesis | saaib, i have tried to flash my initfs for have a 2º boot option, but due to a error of "disk full" i think that original initfs now is empty | 21:30 |
iball | I would get ssh from the command line using apt-get rather than installing dropbear....why go with dropbear instead of ssh? | 21:30 |
Thanatermesis | aparently if i shutdown the n800, it don't boots anymore | 21:31 |
Thanatermesis | my GF is looking me with killing eyes | 21:31 |
saaib | Thanatermesis, oops! not good | 21:31 |
saaib | iball, you mean dropbear instead of openssh? | 21:32 |
iball | that's why I keep a Para-Ordinance Warthog .45 ACP handgun on my desk. | 21:32 |
sbz | Thanatermesis: you have seen, e17 works on n800 ;) | 21:32 |
iball | yes, why dropbear instead of openssh? | 21:32 |
Thanatermesis | saaib, http://paste.debian.net/37754 | 21:32 |
Thanatermesis | that's what i have | 21:32 |
sbz | Thanatermesis: (you are a french user of e17 if i remember me) | 21:32 |
Thanatermesis | sbz, yes, i have seen that ;) exist any repo with e17 ? i don't want to compile it... no time | 21:33 |
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Thanatermesis | iball, idk, seems more small | 21:33 |
sbz | no for the moment, rasterman just test as a Proof on Concept, but he will enjoy for the future | 21:34 |
iball | Oh yes...I guess not everyone is booting from an 8GB SDHC card. | 21:34 |
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sbz | Thanatermesis: http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17-n800-1.jpg & http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17-n800-2.jpg & http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17-n800-3.jpg | 21:34 |
Thanatermesis | yes, i ahve see the shots :) | 21:34 |
Thanatermesis | iball, im on a 4GB sdhc | 21:35 |
sbz | really good news | 21:35 |
Thanatermesis | yes | 21:35 |
Thanatermesis | i can do tests too in the future... when i found a bit of time to play with :) | 21:35 |
sbz | same for me | 21:36 |
iball | well, 4GB should be plenty of space. Last night ArnimS recompiled "the mana world" and for some reason he wasn't able to get it running but it ran fine on my N800....a graphical MMORPG and it runs FAST. | 21:36 |
Thanatermesis | you have a n800 or a 770 sbz ? | 21:36 |
Thanatermesis | iball, any screenshot of this game ? | 21:37 |
Thanatermesis | sbz, do you have a n800 ? | 21:37 |
Thanatermesis | well... let me try to dd the image of this partition to see if works... | 21:37 |
sbz | Thanatermesis: yes i have | 21:38 |
iball | Thanatermesis, let me throw a screenshot of it running on my N800 up on imageshack....one problem though: when I try to force it to launch full-screen on the N800 it errors out, but it runs fine in windowed mode | 21:39 |
iball | http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7628/tmwonn800ba5.png | 21:39 |
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sbz | yeaaaaaaah it's look like RPG soleil on megadrive :D | 21:40 |
iball | there's no sound yet but ArnimS is working on it. Hopefully he'll fix the full-screen mode as well. | 21:40 |
Thanatermesis | crap... the dd not has work, strange :/ | 21:40 |
Thanatermesis | i have just proc, sys, and tmp dirs, empty's | 21:41 |
iball | sbz, it's an MMORPG...I can see all the other players on the net running around killing things. As far as I can tell it's the first port/recompile of one like that done for the IT...luckily ArnimS has a 770 and I have an 800 so we can debug them on both platforms at the same time | 21:42 |
sbz | iball: about your skins for maemo, you've created it or get on the web ? | 21:42 |
iball | and it's FREE as in beer | 21:42 |
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iball | I just replaced the big three icons with others someone else resized for the IT | 21:42 |
iball | search in ITT forums for the "hack" | 21:42 |
iball | other than that it's the default N800 theme | 21:42 |
sbz | okay | 21:42 |
saaib | sbz, r17 works on n800?? aah! I want it for 770, thats my wm on my desktop and laptops | 21:43 |
sbz | s/r17/e17, yeah rasterman (the core developper of e17) try it on his n800 | 21:44 |
Thanatermesis | saaib, can you show me what exact files you have on it ? | 21:44 |
saaib | Thanatermesis, I didn't run an 'ls -R', instead I did find tmpinitfs -type f | wc -l and I got a lot of files | 21:46 |
Thanatermesis | aha | 21:47 |
Thanatermesis | the strange thing is that my dd image not has work.. that not has sense | 21:47 |
saaib | doing : ls tmpinitfs, shows the bin boot dev etc lib linuxrc mnt proc sbin sys etc | 21:47 |
Thanatermesis | myabe because i have n800 and you a 770 ? | 21:47 |
Thanatermesis | sbz, can you try me that thing ? | 21:47 |
Thanatermesis | saaib, aha, i don't have all those thing | 21:48 |
Thanatermesis | s | 21:48 |
sbz | yes what ? | 21:48 |
Thanatermesis | wait | 21:48 |
Thanatermesis | sbz, mkdir -p tmpinitfs ; mount -t jffs2 -o ro /dev/mtdblock3 tmpinitfs ; ls -R tmpinitfs ; umount tmpinitfs | 21:48 |
saaib | Thanatermesis, you might want to do a: find tmpinitfs -type f -print , instead of the ls command, so you can have better space usage | 21:50 |
Thanatermesis | and other partition than /dev/mtdblock3 just don't mount | 21:51 |
sbz | Thanatermesis: it's work good | 21:51 |
Thanatermesis | sbz, files ? | 21:51 |
sbz | Thanatermesis: you want the output ? | 21:52 |
Thanatermesis | sbz, yes, show me it on http://paste.debian.net | 21:52 |
Thanatermesis | saaib, nothing | 21:52 |
sbz | so, wait a minute | 21:55 |
Thanatermesis | ok | 21:55 |
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Thanatermesis | sbz, forget the paste | 21:59 |
sbz | Thanatermesis: http://paste.debian.net/37755 | 21:59 |
Thanatermesis | oh | 21:59 |
Thanatermesis | exact.. i don¡'t have those things... removed! | 22:00 |
Thanatermesis | sbz, can you send me a copy of all those files ? wait.. | 22:00 |
sbz | you want an archive of my / ? | 22:00 |
Thanatermesis | dd if=/dev/mtdblock3 of=dd.img | 22:01 |
Thanatermesis | no, just the dd.img file | 22:01 |
Thanatermesis | and... a copy of that dir, a tar of it | 22:01 |
sbz | you want a prefer block size ? (-bsize) or not ? | 22:02 |
Thanatermesis | i think that just the "dd" is ok | 22:02 |
Thanatermesis | but is strange that my dd image that i have backuped some days ago... don't works :/ | 22:03 |
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sbz | okay, i don't compress with gzip to avoid error on integrity, you can get it here : http://katanux.free.fr/tmpinitfs.tar | 22:05 |
Thanatermesis | thank you sbz | 22:08 |
saaib | Thanatermesis, so... do you have any idea how to setup the canola 770 repo? | 22:10 |
Thanatermesis | saaib, not exactly, but tell me what's the exact problem, i don't have tried canola yet | 22:10 |
Thanatermesis | i want first to boot the system from my SDHC 4GB card for made on it antying | 22:11 |
saaib | Thanatermesis, I have a 770, and want to install canola, the canola web site has a 770 repo url which does not exists anymore... | 22:14 |
saaib | What is the current method to install canola in a 770? | 22:14 |
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Thanatermesis | saaib, try: | 22:15 |
Thanatermesis | deb http://openbossa.indt.org/canola/repository/770 mistral user | 22:16 |
Thanatermesis | deb http://repository.maemo.org/ mistral free non-free | 22:16 |
saaib | Thanatermesis, the first one doesnt work | 22:16 |
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Thanatermesis | saaib, i have obtained those repos from maemo.org, and seems like its for the "mistral" branch, but i don't think that you aare using mistral | 22:20 |
saaib | Thanatermesis, i'm using mistral | 22:20 |
sbz | Thanatermesis: with n800, i ougth to use bora repository | 22:20 |
saaib | sbz, do you know by any change if the n800 binary works with 770? | 22:21 |
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sbz | i don't know saaib i don't try | 22:22 |
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rittyan2 | Hi, has anybody experienced segfault when python app which uses glade, reparents its gtk menu to hildon window menu? It happens if I remove "New" or "Save" or "Save as" from "File" menu and try to expand it then... when they are present it doesn't happen | 22:40 |
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Thanatermesis | $MYDIR/mkfs.jffs2 -r initfs -o $1 -e 128 -l -n | 22:52 |
Thanatermesis | looks like my n800 don't has mkfs.jffs2, on what package is this file ? anybody has mkfs.jffs2 command ? | 22:53 |
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TPC | well, in a normal debian install its in mtd-tools | 22:57 |
iball | Thanatermesis, give me a minute to find hte link to the tools | 22:58 |
Thanatermesis | thx iball | 22:58 |
iball | http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/ | 22:59 |
iball | It's fanoush's tools for initfs to boot from SDHC | 22:59 |
iball | it's in that tgz file | 23:00 |
Thanatermesis | iball, you have do the flashing /dev/mtdblck3 partition thing ? | 23:01 |
Thanatermesis | oh.. is on the dir | 23:02 |
Thanatermesis | iball, i have removed the contents of /dev/mtdblck3, do you know how to recover it ? | 23:02 |
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erstazi | gstreamer? | 23:06 |
_Monkey | somebody said gstreamer was a smoking pile of cow poo. | 23:06 |
erstazi | ok | 23:06 |
Thanatermesis | |]~[| ssh root@192.168.64.34 | 23:06 |
Thanatermesis | Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer | 23:06 |
Thanatermesis | WTF ¿? | 23:07 |
erstazi | the wifi dropped on ya | 23:09 |
erstazi | reset the connection | 23:09 |
iball | no idea on how to recover it | 23:09 |
iball | Thanatermesis, what exactly are you trying to do? | 23:10 |
Thanatermesis | iball, i have lost the contents of my /dev/mtdblk3, i need to recover it now (or put the new one that give me to boot from MMC) | 23:10 |
iball | no idea, head on over to Google to search for recovering a Linux partition or just rebuild it and reinstall apps/firmware if it's not critical | 23:11 |
Thanatermesis | hum | 23:12 |
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pupnikaf1 | hi | 23:18 |
_Monkey | bonjour, pupnikaf1 | 23:18 |
Thanatermesis | ok, im TI-RED | 23:19 |
Thanatermesis | time to flash that thing | 23:19 |
erstazi | hi pupnikaf1 | 23:21 |
pupnikaf1 | 8/nick pupnik | 23:21 |
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pupnik | heh | 23:21 |
erstazi | heh | 23:21 |
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erstazi | hello geaaru_ | 23:22 |
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erstazi | pupnik: have you ever installed gstreamer on OS2006? | 23:25 |
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Thanatermesis | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_flashlatestnokiaimagewithlinux/ | 23:26 |
Thanatermesis | i supose that this is what i need | 23:26 |
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Thanatermesis | i supose that this flash the entire internal disk correct ? not just the /dev/mtdblk4 | 23:27 |
Thanatermesis | iball, ? | 23:27 |
iball | WHat I usually do is flash the the entire device with the latest firmware and then immediately go about setting it up for external boot, that way my internal flash boot is always clean. | 23:28 |
iball | ArnimS, you here? | 23:28 |
iball | pupnik, you get the emails I sent you? | 23:28 |
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Thanatermesis | Product ID not valid. Please re-enter the 12-digit code. | 23:31 |
Thanatermesis | WTF ? | 23:31 |
Thanatermesis | iball, where you get the lastest firmware ? from http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_770.php ? | 23:31 |
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iball | that's the place | 23:31 |
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pupnik | iball: yes | 23:31 |
Thanatermesis | oh wait, that's for 770 | 23:32 |
iball | fix the full-screen and sound problems with mana world yet? | 23:32 |
pupnik | just saw your 800x600 error...! | 23:32 |
iball | here: http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N800.php | 23:32 |
Thanatermesis | thx | 23:33 |
iball | that's where you get the latest firmware | 23:33 |
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iball | pupnik, so what's causing that? | 23:33 |
pupnik | checking right now | 23:33 |
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Thanatermesis | 86 mb of firmware... looks good | 23:34 |
Thanatermesis | iball, i hope that flash all the partitions of the disk of the device... if not, when i reboot it can't boot anymore because the /dev/mtdblk3 is EMPTY!, that's the partition of the BOOT (initfs) | 23:35 |
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iball | Plug in USB calbe and press power and home key at the same time while powering up....then use the Linux flasher tool or the Windows flasher tool to reflash the device | 23:36 |
iball | that should fix it | 23:36 |
pupnik | heh i screwed up all my fonts on 770 | 23:36 |
iball | Meh, I found that the built-in default fonts were good enough...what did you do? Bad TTF? | 23:36 |
Thanatermesis | what is the home button ? the one in the bottom of the front part ? | 23:36 |
pupnik | i don't know - too many changes to track | 23:37 |
pupnik | i have a new deb that fixes the 800x600 problem but keep the old deb around, as the new deb might be causing the connection problem | 23:37 |
iball | throw me the new deb and I'll try it out right quick | 23:39 |
iball | i've still got all the original debs saved in a separate folder | 23:40 |
pupnik | you do network admin for a job? or customer support? | 23:40 |
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iball | network engineer....folks call me in when it all goes to hell or they need a major upgrade or installation done | 23:41 |
Thanatermesis | correct... it don't boots anymore :/ | 23:41 |
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iball | the home button is the one with the house on it | 23:41 |
Thanatermesis | ok | 23:41 |
pupnik | iball: http://pupnik.de/ | 23:44 |
pupnik | iball: http://pupnik.de/tmw_0.0.23-3_armel.deb | 23:44 |
iball | ok, I see you didn't increment the number on the deb file.... | 23:44 |
iball | oh yes you did...nevermind..grabbing it now | 23:45 |
pupnik | i cheated and just renamed the deb | 23:45 |
Thanatermesis | well... booted :) | 23:46 |
iball | pupnik, it runs in windowed mode fine...testing full screen now | 23:47 |
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iball | pupnik, it works just FINE in full-screen mode. Wow, you ported over the first graphical MMORPG to the internet tablet. | 23:54 |
iball | there's a little lag once in a while, but it's still playable. The lag might be only on my end though since I am running Mauku with three web windows open and my Mac is downloading a tv show via bittorrent | 23:54 |
pupnik | good to hear | 23:55 |
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Thanatermesis | btw this firmware looks better :) | 23:55 |
iball | now, what about getting sounds to work? | 23:55 |
flip^ | pupnik: now much of your software will work on a n800? | 23:55 |
iball | :) | 23:55 |
iball | I'm never satisfied...get sound working! | 23:56 |
kpel | iball: which game are you talking about? | 23:56 |
iball | a new one ArnimS/pupnik just ported over...."The Mana World"...more info on the game itself: http://themanaworld.org/ | 23:57 |
iball | pupnik, you might want to throw an in-game screenshot up there | 23:57 |
iball | in addition to the login screen | 23:57 |
iball | pupnik, also change the binary on the tmw page you setup from the -2 version to the working full-window -3 version | 23:58 |
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