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MDK | I managed to get old gdc + gcc 3.4.something version working with old arm target | 00:00 |
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Deformati | Michael Dominic Kostrzewa ? | 00:02 |
Deformati | Ah, I already emailed you. | 00:02 |
Deformati | :D | 00:03 |
Deformati | I am not trying to make a cross compiler, I want everything onboard. | 00:03 |
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MDK | huh? Why | 00:04 |
Deformati | Why not? | 00:05 |
MDK | man, it's going to be a PITA to use it, even if possible | 00:06 |
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MDK | it could be made as an add-on for sbox | 00:06 |
Deformati | Why? | 00:06 |
Deformati | I got my keyboard working on the 770. | 00:06 |
Deformati | And D compiles lightning fast. | 00:06 |
MDK | but why do something inferior, instead of doing it properly? | 00:07 |
MDK | what are the benefits of running it natively? | 00:07 |
MDK | you'll need a shitload of headers, libraries, suff | 00:07 |
Deformati | D doesn't need headers. | 00:08 |
MDK | you'll need headers to integrate with C | 00:08 |
Deformati | And all the libraries are needed anyways. | 00:08 |
Deformati | Not really. | 00:08 |
MDK | unless you want to write GUI-less small apps | 00:08 |
Deformati | Huh? | 00:09 |
MDK | well, I presume you want to use hildon gui | 00:09 |
Deformati | Why would I need headers? | 00:10 |
Deformati | D reads the binary when you use extern. | 00:10 |
MDK | defines for example? | 00:11 |
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MDK | structs? | 00:11 |
Deformati | And the system needs the libraries ANYWAYS, that is, unless all apps are static linked, which I do not think they are. | 00:11 |
Deformati | MDK, in D, you rewrite all all constants in the D code. | 00:11 |
Deformati | You do not use the headers at all. | 00:11 |
MDK | you're not getting it | 00:11 |
MDK | I know how D works | 00:11 |
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Deformati | There are quite a few generators that make d bindings from headers, you don't need the headers themselves. | 00:12 |
MDK | but you need the headers/defines and all the crap from Gtk/hildon/glib/pango/cairo to write anything meaningfull in the first place | 00:12 |
MDK | anyways, good luck really | 00:12 |
Deformati | I can just use the headers on scratchbox and generate bindings on the desktop. | 00:12 |
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MDK | I don't know, it might be a good way to see if it works | 00:13 |
MDK | like, will the GC work, which is the key question | 00:13 |
MDK | (it worked fine for my tests on old arm abi) | 00:13 |
Deformati | Yeah, that os tricky. | 00:14 |
Deformati | I know a few other D users that got it working on an arm. | 00:14 |
MDK | but for any serious development it would be great to have it available in normal development | 00:14 |
Deformati | With the new abi. | 00:14 |
Deformati | Do you by chance know a list of the closed source components of the nokia 770 operating system? | 00:15 |
Deformati | I want to start rewriting them. | 00:15 |
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MDK | ask on the mailing list | 00:19 |
MDK | note that most of the GUI stuff (toolkit, desktop, etc.) is fully open now (the Hildon bits) | 00:19 |
ferulo | only the bright apps are closed :) | 00:20 |
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Deformati | Yeah, but the browser, chatting? | 00:20 |
MDK | other guys (ie. canonical & intel) are already adapting them for their stuff | 00:20 |
MDK | microb is open afaik (mozilla web browser), chat & apps are not | 00:20 |
ferulo | well, chat ui only | 00:20 |
MDK | you'll have problems rewriting things related to hw | 00:20 |
ferulo | all the underlying layers are open (telepathy, mission-control, etc...) | 00:20 |
Deformati | I liek the default browser much moe than mozilla. | 00:20 |
MDK | like codecs, dsp crap, etc. | 00:21 |
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Deformati | Yeah, I will leave that how it is. | 00:21 |
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Deformati | Thought I would liek to learn to program the DSP. | 00:21 |
Deformati | Seems like so much fun. | 00:22 |
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DigExorcist | hi guys - anyone here have experience with the i-tech virtual laser keyboard linking with the 770 or bluetooth keyboards in general? | 00:40 |
Deformati | I got my usb keyboard working with the 770. | 00:41 |
DigExorcist | I'm running into some major stability problems with the maemo-bt-driver | 00:41 |
Deformati | I cannot figure out why it only works with xterm. | 00:41 |
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DigExorcist | When used with the maemo-bt-driver, when it works, the setup is nice - works in the browser, xterm, notepad, etc. | 00:41 |
DigExorcist | when it works | 00:41 |
DigExorcist | sometimes just turning on the bt keyboard crashes the thing | 00:42 |
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DigExorcist | sometimes it works great - like a rock, and perfect as it should | 00:43 |
DigExorcist | most times it either locks the device, or just doesn't link | 00:43 |
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DigExorcist | re-pairing the thing is a regular activity, and that's not 100% | 00:43 |
DigExorcist | sometimes it won't detect it, other times it will, but if you don't do everything just right, no luck at all | 00:44 |
DigExorcist | I'm wanting to perhaps log all the daemons involved, but i | 00:44 |
DigExorcist | I don't know which ones are used entirely | 00:44 |
DigExorcist | it's all supposed to syslog I guess, but i dont know where syslog is dumping the logs - definitely not in /var/log... | 00:45 |
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sp3000 | if you install syslogd it would | 00:50 |
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DigExorcist | hmm | 01:10 |
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DigExorcist | does installing this mean a reboot afterwards? | 01:18 |
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pupnik | do we have a command-line snapshot/screenshot tool? | 01:23 |
pupnik | i need to take a series - or take them very quickly (preferably from the shell) | 01:23 |
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pupnik | apt-get install mh-shot-tool | 01:27 |
pupnik | libgcrypt11 libgnutls11 libgpg-error0 liblzo1 libsoup2.2-8 libtasn1-2 | 01:27 |
pupnik | hah nice depdencies | 01:27 |
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sp3000 | no shots til you've had your soup | 01:28 |
pupnik | how did you know i'm making soup?! | 01:28 |
pupnik | ah libsoup | 01:28 |
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DigExorcist | sp3000, thanks - adding in syslogd does at least provide logging - now if bluetooth was just reliable... | 01:35 |
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scheater6 | A debian developer suggested I check out Maemo for an Archos brand media player. | 01:38 |
pupnik | what is the OR for the archos? | 01:39 |
pupnik | OS | 01:39 |
scheater6 | It's linux based, with alot of proprietary stuff on top. | 01:39 |
sp3000 | DigExorcist: caveats: careful about filling up the flash as that can cause weirdness; also, the many small writes will tend to cause slower bootup due to filesystem garbage collection | 01:39 |
DigExorcist | I'm certain that I'll have to remove it soon | 01:40 |
sp3000 | meh, I had syslog running for months in the spring without issue | 01:42 |
DigExorcist | what's the name of the memory/screenshot app that sits next to the bt logo?? | 01:43 |
DigExorcist | load-snap-run or something.. | 01:43 |
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DigExorcist | load-applet-run - found it | 01:44 |
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DigExorcist | What's the difference between shutting down using the power switch, and issuing a "shutdown -h now" from x-term as root? | 01:46 |
scheater6 | pupnik: I see the title of this channel say for Nokia, so are these questions about the archos unwelcome? Or is Maemo a larger project? | 01:47 |
pupnik | it's fine | 01:47 |
pupnik | maemo is the development environment for the nokia tablets. ITOS is the OS that runs on the tablet devices. | 01:47 |
pupnik | So i have no idea what 'maemo for archos' means | 01:48 |
scheater6 | I've just heard about maemo. I literally know nothing about it other than a suggestion from a debian developer. Is it a linux distro? | 01:48 |
pupnik | not really | 01:48 |
pupnik | what do you want to do? | 01:49 |
scheater6 | I'm almost certainly going to buy the Archos 605, and I would like to replace the OS. | 01:49 |
pupnik | looks like a nice device | 01:51 |
pupnik | a nokia 800 with 8GB SD cards is a good alternative though | 01:52 |
scheater6 | Well, I have a massive media collection, and I'm really looking for a media player more than an internet tablet - but comparable media players without wifi cost only a little less, if not more (see 80Gb iPod video) | 01:53 |
DigExorcist | the Archos lacks bluetooth | 01:53 |
scheater6 | yea, I know. | 01:54 |
DigExorcist | whats this thing cost?? | 01:54 |
scheater6 | But I don't use bluetooth that often anyway. | 01:55 |
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DigExorcist | bt keyboards are nice though - when my laser keyboard works, it works great. | 01:55 |
scheater6 | $250-$350, depending on storage space | 01:55 |
DigExorcist | And it is accurate enough to work with | 01:55 |
scheater6 | Yea, this thing would be a laptop replacement if I could put a keyboard with it. But, there again, the OS is the trouble - no text editor. | 01:56 |
scheater6 | So, maemo is exclusively designed for the Nokia internet tablets, and is not likely to support hardware not on those tablets? | 01:58 |
DigExorcist | I can't answer that - but my take is probably not | 01:58 |
DigExorcist | Nokia did something different when they embraced open source with a nice little bit of hardware | 01:58 |
DigExorcist | I think they're realizing now, on the back end, that the 770 | 01:59 |
DigExorcist | has become far more popular now that it's price is below the $150 mark | 01:59 |
scheater6 | Quite so - if there was one with a nice big harddrive it would definitely be my choice. | 01:59 |
scheater6 | And I still may buy one just to take to class. But if I could get oss running on this Archos, it may well be something to take notice of. | 02:03 |
scheater6 | "price is below the $150 mark" - that in American dollars? Because Amazon has the n800 at ~$350 and the 770 at ~$290 | 02:04 |
DigExorcist | Frankly, when it first came out I looked at it and laughed - "what a stupid idea, who in the fuck would want to pay for that?" | 02:04 |
DigExorcist | On ebay you can get 770's brand new for $149. get the Square-trade 3-year warranty for an extra $12 | 02:05 |
scheater6 | good to know | 02:05 |
DigExorcist | Now that the insides of the thing are out there, and people know what's underneath, and that folks can have root on it, it's become the portable hackers choice | 02:05 |
DigExorcist | I can run freaking nmap over wireless now - that rocks! | 02:05 |
DigExorcist | if only my i-tech keyboard worked reliably | 02:06 |
scheater6 | I dunno if you'd call me a hacker, but I've gotten used to being able to get under the hood of an OS when I feel like it. | 02:06 |
scheater6 | My main gripes with the Archos are: no feed reader, no text editor, and you have to pay for plugins for codecs (and still no ogg/flac) and the web browser. | 02:08 |
scheater6 | NEway, if it won't support the hardware I guess maemo isn't for me. | 02:08 |
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scheater6 | Thank you for your time guys. And check out the Archos - get people to check out Archos. It's a darn good price on some good hardware - if eventually someone could get some good software running on it... | 02:09 |
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pupnik | xwd -root |xwdtopnm |pnmtopng > screenshot.png << screenshot from command line - | 02:20 |
pupnik | screenshot? | 02:20 |
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Deformati | Ugh. | 02:33 |
Deformati | Fucking damnit. | 02:33 |
Deformati | How could I just "Forget" how to draw. | 02:33 |
Deformati | :( | 02:33 |
Deformati | All of the sudden the girl I like is into art. | 02:33 |
Deformati | And damn, I cannot draw anymore. | 02:33 |
Deformati | Fsking stab stab | 02:33 |
Deformati | Lolzors. | 02:34 |
* Deformati feels like being a troll. | 02:34 | |
Deformati | Bleh, no other trolls. | 02:34 |
pupnik | fyi: this channel is logged and searchable | 02:35 |
Deformati | Why do I care? | 02:35 |
Deformati | And freenode isn't supposed to be logged. | 02:35 |
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Sulis | who says that freenode isn't supposed to be logged? | 02:38 |
Deformati | Dunno, I read it somewhere. | 02:39 |
Deformati | Some subpage of freenode.net | 02:40 |
Sulis | what freenode says about logging http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml | 02:42 |
Deformati | Yeah. | 02:42 |
Sulis | second paragraph from the bottom | 02:42 |
Deformati | That's it. | 02:42 |
Sulis | and to be fair, there is something in the topic | 02:43 |
pupnik | i'll ask again - i need precisely timed or repeated screenshots - preferably triggered from ssh command-line to help debug dosbox errors | 02:43 |
Deformati | Yeah, whatever. | 02:43 |
Deformati | I don't really care. | 02:43 |
pupnik | Is there a command-line screenshot tool for ITOS? | 02:43 |
Deformati | I spam random garbage in irc when I am bored. | 02:43 |
Sulis | oh right....perhaps you should get the stumbleupon toolbar for firefox, that helps to releave boredom | 02:44 |
Deformati | If you just want to publish a single conversation, be careful to get permission from each participant. Provide as much context as you can. Avoid the temptation to publish or distribute logs without permission in order to portray someone in a bad light. The reputation you save will most likely be your own. | 02:44 |
Deformati | Nah. | 02:44 |
Deformati | Spamming irc dev channels is funner. | 02:44 |
Deformati | Except this one is relatively boring. | 02:44 |
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pupnik | checking for XWD... Package xmuu was not found in the pkg-config search path. | 02:47 |
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Deformati | Hmm. | 02:50 |
Deformati | Someone reteach me to draw. | 02:50 |
Deformati | I am looking for skills outside of the small geek socialbase. | 02:51 |
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unique311 | question | 02:52 |
_Monkey | question is probably whether you can mask it well enough that they wouldnt notice | 02:52 |
unique311 | ssh to N800 | 02:52 |
unique311 | what is the default user password? | 02:52 |
Deformati | Ugh, see, this is the problem with logged channels. | 02:52 |
Deformati | No one replies. | 02:52 |
Deformati | >.> | 02:53 |
Deformati | unique311: root is rootme | 02:53 |
unique311 | for user | 02:53 |
pupnik | don't know. as root, set it to whatever you want with "passwd user" | 02:53 |
Deformati | No clue. | 02:53 |
unique311 | Deformati: you want to learn how to draw? | 02:53 |
Deformati | Did you try just pressing enter? | 02:53 |
unique311 | yeah | 02:53 |
unique311 | no go | 02:53 |
Deformati | unique311: Yeah. | 02:53 |
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unique311 | still want a passwrd | 02:53 |
Deformati | I used to be insainly good at drawing. | 02:53 |
Deformati | Not so much anymore. | 02:53 |
unique311 | not good | 02:54 |
unique311 | you never forget how to draw | 02:54 |
unique311 | just probably impatient now. | 02:54 |
Deformati | How come my drawings look like shit now? | 02:54 |
Deformati | Ah. | 02:54 |
Deformati | Could be. | 02:54 |
unique311 | all you need is patience Deformati | 02:54 |
unique311 | what do you like drawing? | 02:56 |
pupnik | unique311: as root, type passwd user, and you will not be prompted for the old passwd | 02:56 |
Deformati | unique311: people | 02:56 |
unique311 | ok | 02:56 |
pupnik | at least on my device | 02:56 |
unique311 | thanks pupnik | 02:56 |
unique311 | i gave up on people. | 02:56 |
Deformati | unique311: I used to be able to trace a quarter, use it as the head, and it would still look like a person. | 02:57 |
Deformati | Dispite the circular head. | 02:57 |
unique311 | lol | 02:57 |
Deformati | I cannot find any of my old doodles. | 02:58 |
unique311 | trying to give up drawing on paper....which is why i purchase the N800 | 02:58 |
Deformati | I have some of my longer drawings. | 02:58 |
Deformati | Hehe. | 02:58 |
Deformati | I used to be insane with ink. | 02:58 |
Deformati | And some pencil. | 02:58 |
unique311 | same. | 02:59 |
Deformati | But it appears I lost some tallent. | 02:59 |
Deformati | I believe my merging into the geek culture killed my artistic side. | 02:59 |
unique311 | lol | 02:59 |
Deformati | Ever since I learned to program, I cannot draw. | 02:59 |
unique311 | get a wacom pad. | 02:59 |
unique311 | it'll come back. | 02:59 |
Deformati | Drawing was my only attractive feature. | 03:00 |
Deformati | Heh. | 03:00 |
unique311 | you can always doodle in PS while programming..\maybe | 03:00 |
Deformati | Now what can I say? "Oh check this out, I program" "Lameee" | 03:00 |
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Deformati | Eh. | 03:03 |
Deformati | I used to be able to doodle so good. | 03:03 |
Deformati | Just come up with stuff out of my brain. | 03:03 |
unique311 | its still there. | 03:05 |
Deformati | Not really. | 03:05 |
unique311 | i don't think you ever forget how to draw. | 03:06 |
Deformati | Here, lemmi draw something and picky it. | 03:06 |
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Deformati | http://deformative.hosting.arsfides.com/upload/files/1/dscf0009.jpg | 03:13 |
Deformati | See. | 03:13 |
Deformati | Completely lost my skill. | 03:13 |
Deformati | That pencil is about 4 inches by the way. | 03:13 |
unique311 | thats good | 03:14 |
unique311 | thought you were going to show me some stick figures.. | 03:14 |
Deformati | No, dude, you don;t understand how I did doodle. | 03:14 |
Deformati | Heh. | 03:14 |
unique311 | you just have to get it back | 03:15 |
Deformati | Yeah, I hope I can. | 03:15 |
unique311 | conceptart there's guys on that site that draw everyday. I consider myself an artist and i go weeks sometimes without drawing. | 03:16 |
Deformati | I have gone about two years. | 03:16 |
unique311 | wow | 03:16 |
unique311 | yeah, a little too long. | 03:16 |
unique311 | but the face is pretty descent for 2 years. | 03:17 |
Deformati | Thanks. | 03:17 |
Deformati | I spent a little too much time programming. | 03:17 |
Deformati | Heh. | 03:17 |
unique311 | why pick up the pencil after 2 years? | 03:17 |
Deformati | Uh. | 03:17 |
unique311 | memories? | 03:17 |
Deformati | Nah. | 03:17 |
Deformati | I cannot get gdc working on the 770. | 03:17 |
unique311 | gdc? | 03:18 |
_Monkey | hmmm... gdc is gcc's backend | 03:18 |
Deformati | Plus, I have been wondering what it would be like if I never became a geek. | 03:18 |
Deformati | Heh. | 03:18 |
Deformati | So I am going to try to balance myself or something. | 03:18 |
Deformati | Like, two years ago, I was using gimp, and I found out that open source existed, and then went to linux, learned unix, then learned programming, and yeah. | 03:19 |
unique311 | best way to balance it out...get a pad | 03:19 |
Deformati | Hehe. | 03:19 |
unique311 | well when mtpaint gets hildonized you can actually use your 770 | 03:20 |
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Deformati | mtpaint? | 03:20 |
_Monkey | mtpaint is good? | 03:20 |
unique311 | to draw some cool things | 03:20 |
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unique311 | paint program with lots of goodies | 03:20 |
unique311 | on the garage its called faint | 03:20 |
Deformati | Vector or raster? | 03:20 |
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unique311 | no vector programs on maemo yet..i think | 03:21 |
unique311 | it raster | 03:21 |
Deformati | Ah. | 03:22 |
Deformati | Hmm. | 03:22 |
Deformati | Tomorrow I am going to try getting gdc I think. | 03:22 |
Deformati | Then I will make my own paint program. | 03:22 |
unique311 | really good used it for a while on train rides, but got tired of the small screen. | 03:22 |
unique311 | well if you do, smudge please include.. | 03:23 |
unique311 | blur | 03:23 |
Deformati | I really need a keyboard. | 03:23 |
Deformati | I setup the usb hack. | 03:23 |
Deformati | But eh. | 03:23 |
Deformati | It would be fantastic if the nokia had a real usb port. | 03:23 |
Deformati | If it did, it would be like, the perfect system. | 03:23 |
pupnik | "If it's too slow for you, you're not drinking enough beer." - Pupnik, on the 770 emulators | 03:24 |
unique311 | synergy Deformati | 03:25 |
Deformati | Yeah, I was thinking about that. | 03:25 |
Deformati | The 770 is remarkably fast. | 03:26 |
Deformati | I love ARM procs. | 03:26 |
unique311 | you can find the gui version | 03:26 |
unique311 | in the garage | 03:26 |
Deformati | I want to learn to use the DSP though. | 03:26 |
Deformati | Well, I had synergy on my laptop/desktop/media computer. | 03:26 |
Deformati | But I got bored of it. | 03:26 |
unique311 | only use for the N800 right now is kagu.... | 03:29 |
unique311 | until faint gets hildon. | 03:30 |
Deformati | Hmm, getting better. | 03:30 |
unique311 | this question was asked on ITT, is it possible to use the IT as a tablet for a desktop/notebook? | 03:31 |
unique311 | i can use my ppc6700 as a tablet for my desktop or notebook, running windows....with a little app called ppc tablet. | 03:32 |
Deformati | http://deformative.hosting.arsfides.com/upload/files/1/dscf0019.jpg | 03:34 |
Deformati | Getting slightly better | 03:34 |
unique311 | ur own style? | 03:37 |
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trevarthan | what do you guys think about sync'ing with an mp3 device via wifi? | 03:39 |
trevarthan | mp3 device = n800 | 03:39 |
Deformati | unique311: ? | 03:39 |
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unique311 | Deformati: I'm about to pick up the old moleskin. | 03:41 |
Deformati | moleskin? | 03:41 |
* Deformati is confused. | 03:41 | |
unique311 | drawpad | 03:41 |
unique311 | lol | 03:41 |
unique311 | 2 years... | 03:42 |
erstazi | trevarthan: sync through wifi to what? | 03:44 |
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Deformati | unique311: Still not following you,. | 03:45 |
unique311 | just a sketch book.. | 03:46 |
unique311 | sketching something really quick.. | 03:46 |
unique311 | i'll up it for ya | 03:46 |
Deformati | But sketchbooks attract attension. | 03:47 |
Deformati | Plus they are awkward and smudge the drawing. | 03:50 |
Deformati | Makes it less crisp. | 03:50 |
Deformati | Anyways, I give up drawing for today. | 03:50 |
trevarthan | erstazi: to a pc. avoid th whole usb/sync loop | 03:57 |
erstazi | trevarthan: ah | 03:58 |
erstazi | trevarthan: its possible I imagine | 03:59 |
erstazi | trevarthan: personally, I use slimserver, and I do not like housing the music on my device | 03:59 |
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trevarthan | erstazi: my device is mobile, so i have to get stuff on there somehow. | 04:01 |
erstazi | trevarthan: ah, does your ISP not let you have incoming ports? | 04:02 |
trevarthan | :) not on the interstate. no. | 04:02 |
erstazi | trevarthan: some are becoming a real pain anymore... a few years ago it was not an issue to have a server or what not | 04:02 |
erstazi | trevarthan: ah I see | 04:02 |
erstazi | trevarthan: good point | 04:02 |
erstazi | trevarthan: you could always scp them over | 04:03 |
trevarthan | i'm thinking more of an itunes like setup, with automated transcoding for videos and stuff. | 04:04 |
pupnik | pingus is available for testing here http://pupnik.de/pingus.html | 04:04 |
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trevarthan | but then i was thinking about doing application specific stuff too. so you don't have to rescan for media. | 04:05 |
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trevarthan | pupnik, coulen't get dgen to load sonic rom. :( | 04:07 |
erstazi | trevarthan: I would be interested in something like that | 04:07 |
pupnik | yeah dgen doesn't run sonic | 04:07 |
trevarthan | erstazi: yeah. me too. hmmmmm. | 04:08 |
pupnik | on the tablet i mean - it does on the pc | 04:08 |
pupnik | whenever i cd to my picodrive tree i start getting heart palpitations and panic attacks now | 04:09 |
pupnik | i think unique311 remembers the picodrive nightmare | 04:09 |
unique311 | was it picodrive | 04:11 |
unique311 | or the snes9x | 04:11 |
_Monkey | rumour has it the snes9x is too slow | 04:11 |
unique311 | Deformati: here is the sketch....had to find a way to upload it from my phone.. | 04:12 |
unique311 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/unique0nez/ | 04:12 |
unique311 | can't go wrong with the bald look... | 04:13 |
unique311 | pupnik: you still working on picodrive? | 04:14 |
pupnik | no not since may | 04:14 |
pupnik | i've looked at it a couple of times | 04:15 |
pupnik | you know -- like you look at roadkill when driving by | 04:15 |
unique311 | which dgen did you get working? | 04:16 |
unique311 | sdl version? | 04:16 |
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trevarthan | unique311: which paint app do you use on maemo? | 04:18 |
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unique311 | none as of now... | 04:19 |
unique311 | waiting on faint to make its hildonized appearance | 04:19 |
unique311 | i played with mtpaint, rgbpaint, and mypaint. | 04:19 |
pupnik | damn mh-shot-tool taking 2MB of disk space | 04:23 |
unique311 | i think mypaint was probable the one i would choose if all were hildon'd, because of the touch screen sensitivity feature. | 04:23 |
pupnik | just for that flickr-upload capability | 04:23 |
Deformati | unique311: too much anatomy for me. | 04:25 |
Deformati | I draw based on what I remember. | 04:25 |
Deformati | I never had a techneque. | 04:25 |
Deformati | I always just doodle out of my brain. | 04:25 |
unique311 | well that was just doodlin' | 04:25 |
Deformati | Yeah. | 04:26 |
Deformati | If i am drawing something for real, I like, well, I still have no techneque. | 04:26 |
Deformati | I just go with it. | 04:27 |
Deformati | Heh. | 04:27 |
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unique311 | i have no technique also. | 04:29 |
unique311 | i'm into graffiti, which is basically another form of abstract art(some people might not think so)...I can take letters and make magic happen with them. | 04:32 |
unique311 | i suck at colors. | 04:32 |
Deformati | I was never good at words. | 04:33 |
Deformati | Not organic enough. | 04:33 |
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unique311 | I got sonic to run on a neogeo emulator in scratchbox...but controls wasn't working. a while back. | 04:53 |
unique311 | at really fast speeds | 04:54 |
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pupnik | http://www.mises.org/books/TRTS/ [ The Illustrated Road to Serfdom ] | 04:56 |
trevarthan | is there a samba server for maemo? | 04:59 |
erstazi | trevarthan: good question | 05:08 |
erstazi | trevarthan: one can install from source but libpapm is needed | 05:11 |
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ds2 | is the "serial port" pinout on the N800 documented on any page? all I can find are N770 pinouts which seems to have more pads | 05:13 |
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trevarthan | Does anyone know if maemo has something like FAM or Gamin? Something to notify us when files change? | 05:31 |
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alucardo_6666 | anything have the becomeroot.dev package?? | 05:39 |
alucardo_6666 | to nokia n770 | 05:39 |
mvhtest | becomeroot? | 05:41 |
_Monkey | becomeroot is, like, is easily obtained from [770/OS2006] http://eko.one.pl/maemo/dists/mistral/user/binary-armel/becomeroot_0.1-2_armel.deb or [770/OS2007HE and N800/OS2007] http://eko.one.pl/maemo/dists/bora/user/binary-armel/becomeroot_0.1-2_armel.deb or for a more long winded method http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_EASILY_BecomeRoot | 05:41 |
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alucardo_6666 | THANK YOU VERY MUCH Monkey | 05:44 |
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sparr | trevarthan: FAM on a battery powered device is a Bad Thing (TM) | 05:49 |
trevarthan | that's nice. it's using something though. | 05:49 |
trevarthan | Ever notice how media player always knows you've added files? | 05:49 |
trevarthan | does anyone have a dpkg-dev deb I can use? | 05:52 |
trevarthan | I'm getting perl5 dep errors when I try to install via apt-get | 05:53 |
trevarthan | and I get a cannot compute sizeof error when I try to build my own package | 05:53 |
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sparr | now that i sold my tablet pc i might get back to maemo stuff :) | 05:54 |
sparr | got $810 for it, not a horrible deal | 05:54 |
trevarthan | :) If someone gave me a tablet PC, I'd make a Kagu .exe for it. | 05:56 |
trevarthan | you tried the new Kagu sparr? | 05:56 |
trevarthan | got a nice volume slider, just for you. you're right too, it's much nicer. | 05:56 |
sparr | i have not | 05:57 |
sparr | i havent installed anything on my 770 in weeks | 05:57 |
trevarthan | do an upgrade. it ain't bad. | 05:58 |
trevarthan | ah. I'm not cut out to be a packager. I just don't have the patience. | 05:58 |
trevarthan | I don't think I spelled that right. :( | 05:59 |
sparr | packages are for things with lots of files in lots of places | 05:59 |
sparr | i think a tgz for kagu is just fine, except for the lack of a menu entry :( | 05:59 |
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trevarthan | lol. just run your app manager and go to updates. | 06:00 |
trevarthan | if kagu is already installed, that is. | 06:00 |
trevarthan | I'm talking about this samba package I'm trying to build. | 06:00 |
trevarthan | no fun. | 06:00 |
trevarthan | I think maemo should ship with a samba server and a control panel applet for configuring it. | 06:02 |
trevarthan | that would make sense. | 06:02 |
trevarthan | sparr: did you see the new VideoCenter application? | 06:03 |
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sparr | no | 06:03 |
sparr | <google> | 06:04 |
trevarthan | dunno if it's for the 770 or not. | 06:04 |
trevarthan | looks like IPTV for maemo. It's got an EPG and everything. | 06:04 |
sparr | neat | 06:04 |
trevarthan | So far it looks useless to me though. I don't know anything about IPTV. | 06:04 |
trevarthan | I've got MythTV, but it's b0rked in this release of VideoCenter. | 06:05 |
trevarthan | Looks like it's got potential though. | 06:05 |
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DigExorcist | anyone here a bluetooth expert? | 06:46 |
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alucardo_6666 | I have a big problem i download and install the aircrack-ng package v0.9 to my nokia n770 , i run the aircrack , airdump , and airmon , but the aireplay "not found".. some idea?? | 07:58 |
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e-squizo | I' ve been trying to set up a development environment under Debian sid, unsuccessfully. Does scratxhbox2 work at all? | 08:55 |
e-squizo | maybe I' m being too anal, but I wanted to do as little as possible outside the distro, and scratchbox1 seems not to be available in sid | 08:56 |
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pupnik | erstazi: sid here - yes it works | 10:23 |
pupnik | oh sry | 10:23 |
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_stfn_ | Mh... anyone knows how long it should take the N800 to show _any_ livesigns when being attached to the charger given that the battery was completely empty before? | 10:37 |
_stfn_ | I've read, that the charging is controlled by software and so it takes longer, if there's no more power left on the battery to boot. | 10:38 |
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roope | I've seen it take a minute or so. | 10:46 |
pupnik | one advantage to dim room lighting is that mosquitos are drawn to your monitor glow, where you can kill them easily | 10:46 |
Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:47 |
pupnik | hi, one | 10:49 |
pupnik | so no success on figuring out how to do a hair-trigger screenshot applet, or one that runs from command line | 10:50 |
pupnik | looking at xmd and mh-shot-tool and haven't figured out how they do the magic yet | 10:51 |
pupnik | too impatient i am | 10:51 |
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jani | hair-trigger ? | 10:55 |
wazzzzzap | hi, is there some reference where I can look up, which adresses on the n 770 are related to which driver and stuff like that? | 10:55 |
_stfn_ | roope: Well, then I'm screwed... device has been plugged in for ~20 minutes, no sign of life... | 10:56 |
pupnik | i need to screenshot some display errors in software to show the dosbox developers | 10:58 |
pupnik | and it flashes by pretty fast - maybe i should just see about pausing dosbox | 10:59 |
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Jaffa | pupnik: osso-screenshot-tool runs from the command line and has been available since IT OS 2005 | 11:04 |
pupnik | thanks! | 11:05 |
`0660 | stfn, just keep charging it | 11:13 |
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_stfn_ | `0660: For how long approximately? Any guess? | 11:29 |
_stfn_ | I just wonder when I'll have to the further steps, like calling the nice lady at Nokia again... | 11:30 |
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TPC | no life for 20 minutes? could be the charger that is broken | 11:31 |
_stfn_ | Nope, tried several ones. | 11:31 |
TPC | you probably need a new battery then | 11:31 |
_stfn_ | My guess would be a) Battery b) Device... | 11:31 |
TPC | the kind of batteries in today cellphones are pretty sensitive | 11:31 |
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TPC | overcharge them and they die permanently, let them run to dry and they die permanently | 11:32 |
_stfn_ | I'll keep it on the charger for another hour, then I'll probably try to get a replacement from a Nokia Service Point | 11:32 |
TPC | they have built in failsafes to stop charging before they get too high, or turn themselves off before they get too low | 11:32 |
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TPC | but if those failsafes fail, then there is nothing you can do | 11:33 |
_stfn_ | Mh... well, yeah. But actually shouldn't the device power on when being plugged in? | 11:33 |
TPC | yes, it should | 11:33 |
_stfn_ | I doesn't. | 11:33 |
_stfn_ | I -> It | 11:33 |
_stfn_ | Which makes me worry. | 11:34 |
TPC | if you want to, I can try mine without a battery in, see what happens | 11:34 |
_stfn_ | If you got a minute, this would be great to know | 11:34 |
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TPC | nope, it didn't turn on | 11:36 |
_stfn_ | Okay, thanks. So a broken battery would explain all symptons. Which is good, as a new battery will actually cost me less money than a new N800... | 11:37 |
TPC | in either case you would still get a new one, warranty and all, wouldn't you? | 11:40 |
_stfn_ | Well, the N800 isn't even out for a year... so yes, I guess so. | 11:41 |
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TPC | in the EU at least they have to give you 3 years for manufactural errors (that is, if it breaks under totally normal usage and you can proove that you didn't drop it on the floor or something) | 11:43 |
_stfn_ | I live in Switzerland, so I don't know if this applies here as well. | 11:44 |
_stfn_ | However, as it's not even a year since the release, this shouldn't be a problem. | 11:45 |
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amr | just reinstalled becomeroot | 12:04 |
amr | now when i go to do sudo gainroot i get: | 12:04 |
amr | cal_read_block(r&d_mode): size zero, block not found? | 12:05 |
amr | Enable RD mode if you want to break your device | 12:05 |
TPC | just give your user permission to do sudo su in the sudoers file | 12:06 |
TPC | of course you have to be root do to this :P | 12:07 |
amr | well then, im kind of stuck with that aren't i :P | 12:08 |
TPC | or just install the ssh server | 12:08 |
TPC | and ssh to root@localhost | 12:08 |
TPC | password is rootme if you haven't changed it | 12:08 |
amr | no i dont think i have | 12:08 |
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amr | gah i need to be root to install it? | 12:12 |
amr | maybe not | 12:13 |
amr | package is incompatible with current software | 12:13 |
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amr | unable to install :/ | 12:19 |
amr | brilliant | 12:19 |
amr | no public key apparently | 12:19 |
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Jaffa | So shiny: | 12:41 |
Jaffa | http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3104&p=2 | 12:42 |
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VladDrac | yeah I've been waiting for the eeePC for months | 12:53 |
Jaffa | I'm trying to work out if the black or white looks better, and if I'll still want an N800 if I have an Eee | 12:53 |
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VladDrac | apple charges extra for black, so it must be better ;) | 12:55 |
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cosmo | hello, is there documentation for sobexsrv somewhere? | 13:06 |
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_stfn_ | TPC: Got a new battery - seems to be working, as it's fully loaded. The only thing I worry about now is that I don't get a "Plugged in" Icon in the upper right corner when charging. | 13:21 |
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amr | trying to install openssh-server from application manager | 13:32 |
amr | i flashed my tablet so its completely empty but ive got 'unable to install' | 13:32 |
amr | /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postinst: 308: cannot create /etc/ssh/sshd_config: Directory nonexistent | 13:33 |
amr | dpkg: error processing openssh-server (--configure): | 13:33 |
amr | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 | 13:33 |
sp3000 | hum | 13:33 |
amr | what can i do? | 13:33 |
sp3000 | offhand that sounds like a bug in the postinst script, but... | 13:33 |
amr | but? | 13:34 |
sp3000 | um, but nothing :) | 13:34 |
amr | how do i install openssh then? | 13:35 |
sp3000 | maybe go root and mkdir /etc/ssh and see if it works then? | 13:35 |
sp3000 | the install that is | 13:35 |
amr | ok cheers | 13:35 |
sp3000 | and file a bug on the package ...where-ever it takes bugs, I guess | 13:35 |
amr | ive enabled redpill mode and trying to install 'ssh' now | 13:38 |
amr | which has worked | 13:40 |
amr | man | 13:42 |
amr | doesnt have a persistent connection at all | 13:42 |
amr | i have to hit refres in the browser for my ssh to work | 13:42 |
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amr | is there a way to fix that | 13:45 |
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amr | is it normal for the device to only allow pings and ssh'ing when there is an active session on the tablet? | 14:22 |
amr | e.g. i can only do anything over ssh while i keep hitting refresh on the browser | 14:22 |
amr | and i cant ping unless i do the same | 14:22 |
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Snig178 | Does anybody have any idea why my Xephyr display of scratchbox has unbelievably small font size? | 14:45 |
guardian | dpi ? | 14:46 |
guardian | do you start it with -dpi 96 ? | 14:47 |
Snig178 | Oh dear! | 14:47 |
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ulpe | i've got a bit of a (stupid) problem. I'm trying to draw a pixbuf on screen on window expose_event (kind of splash screen on window show), but the best I get is gray screen. | 14:50 |
ulpe | I take a screenshot of the background, do stuff to it and try to show it... | 14:50 |
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ulpe | now the stupid part: can the drawing be done in root window?-) | 14:52 |
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lardman | afternoon all | 15:17 |
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Snig178 | Does anyone have an example debian/rules file for packaging python apps? | 15:58 |
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dev | Snig178: https://coherence.beebits.net/browser/sandbox/Compere/debian - works for me | 16:24 |
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alterego | Well .. There's some consistency for you 'HILDON_TELEPHONE_EDITOR_TYPE' :/ | 17:08 |
* alterego wonders whether that was intentional .. | 17:09 | |
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SE-Wilco2 | Is there a CPU/memory monitor for OS 2007? | 17:21 |
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disq | osso-statusbar-cpu? | 17:27 |
_Monkey | i heard osso-statusbar-cpu was at http://www.maemo-hackers.org/wiki/OssoStatusbarCpu | 17:27 |
alterego | :) | 17:27 |
SE-Wilco2 | Hmm. The 2007 version wasn't visible when browsing maemo's web list. And I have maemo-hackers repository but it didn't show there. | 17:30 |
disq | 2007 version is really nice | 17:30 |
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SE-Wilco2 | What is maemo-hackers name for app components? "FIXME" is shown in http://maemo.org/community/wiki/applicationrepositories/ | 17:34 |
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disq | no idea but i'll find out | 17:34 |
disq | i updated my simple-launcher btw, not recommending it. the icon spacings are too narrow now. can't be used with fingers unless you use huge icons | 17:34 |
disq | bora / main | 17:35 |
disq | the applications FIXME is for the available apps list | 17:36 |
disq | you don't need that to add the catalogue | 17:36 |
SE-Wilco2 | Oh. osso-statusbar-cpu is showing in App Mgr. Don't know how I overlooked it. | 17:38 |
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SE-Wilco2 | I configured osso-statusbar-cpu in Control Panel, but I don't see it anywhere. | 17:46 |
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disq | SE-Wilco2: you have to enable the icon in statusbar | 17:58 |
disq | from cp / navigation / status bar | 17:58 |
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SE-Wilco2 | Aha. That's how statusbar is controlled. Thanks. | 18:03 |
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SE-Wilco2 | Oh, good. Opera's "connecting" bouncing blue stripe does not eat CPU. Unlike some browsers' busy indicator. | 18:07 |
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sp3000 | you also can't make it go faster by trying to do more actions | 18:08 |
sp3000 | which is just boring | 18:08 |
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dorto | What is the risk of upgrading Nokia N800 to IT OS 2007 version(<10%?)? My friend upgraded N770 to new version and his device went blank(WSoD)! :( | 18:10 |
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SE-Wilco2 | Mine updated to 2007 OK, as have others. I don't know what the odds are, but hope Nokia would not have released it if there was a high probability of failure. | 18:13 |
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dorto | SE-Wilco2, ok, thanks. Can the updated 2007 version be installed parallel to the currently installed version, say on a different SD card? | 18:21 |
SE-Wilco2 | I don't know. Anyone know if one can download OS 2007 and install it on an SD card without flashing it internally? | 18:23 |
Jaffa | dorto: The N800 doesn't suffer from the WSOD problem and most/all N800s have been flashed without any problem. | 18:24 |
SE-Wilco2 | (I'm running from SD card 1, but I copied its OS from the internal) | 18:24 |
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toed | how fast are rs-mmc cards? 80mb is taking ages to copy over | 18:25 |
JussiP | N800 only does USB 1.1, IIRC. That is slow. | 18:25 |
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toed | just the card though | 18:26 |
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JussiP | Those are quite fast, I think. | 18:27 |
toed | I'm using it with the little adapter thing and the sd card reader in my laptop and it's quite slow (~100KB/s) | 18:28 |
JussiP | The card reader may have a slow bus. Have you tried it with another card that would be faster? | 18:29 |
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toed | I don't recall feeliing it was particularly slow when I used a regular sd card | 18:34 |
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dorto | Thanks SE-Wilco2, Jaffa, I will upgrade it then. I don't live in US so was a bit scared if the servicing situation would come up. | 18:37 |
dorto | Both my SD cards works at ~5 MBPS | 18:37 |
dorto | the spec was ~12mpbs but 5mbps is quite good. | 18:37 |
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Jaffa | N800's USB 2 - it was 770 which was USB 1.1 IIRC | 18:56 |
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saaib | morning everyone | 19:03 |
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pupnik_ | morning | 19:08 |
_Monkey | aloha | 19:08 |
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saaib | I downloaded a video from google video and used the Media Converter to have it 770 customized | 19:23 |
saaib | however, the generated file (avi) can't be reproduced by the 770 video player | 19:23 |
saaib | comments, suggestions anyone? | 19:24 |
zeenix | saaib: reproduced? | 19:24 |
saaib | zeenix, played, viewed | 19:24 |
pupnik_ | last time i used the media converter it was intended to make video for mplayer | 19:24 |
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saaib | I have the avi file available on an apache web server, on the 770 I open the stream type in the url and the media complains it can't play the file | 19:25 |
saaib | mhh.. so the default media player won't play it? well, now that I have the AVI file, what should I do to convert it so the 770 media player can play it? | 19:25 |
pupnik | i am not sure what the standard media player can handle. | 19:26 |
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saaib | the discovery video that comes with the 770 has a mime type video/x-msvideo, is that a wma? | 19:27 |
saaib | mhh, its a Video for Windows (AVI) | 19:28 |
pupnik | avi is just a container format, you also need codec information | 19:29 |
pupnik | google maemo media player supported codecs or something like that | 19:29 |
dorto | video successfully converted using Nokia Media Converter N770 should play with the default N800 media player | 19:34 |
dorto | can you paste the video details somewhere and link here? say, using GSpot on Windows? | 19:34 |
dorto | Media Converter should convert it to MPEG at correct resolution(400x240 etc) | 19:36 |
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amr | well this is strange.. | 19:41 |
amr | browser starts and within seconds | 19:41 |
amr | it quits | 19:41 |
amr | if i run browser.launch from xterm | 19:42 |
amr | i get 'segmentation fault' | 19:42 |
amr | how come the default video player doesnt like 400*240 anyway | 19:46 |
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pupnik | the 770 is not a PC. It has limited capacity for video playback. Mplayer is a highly advanced and optimized hack that does 'more than it should be able to do' on that device. | 19:53 |
saaib | dorto, Media Converter convert the file from mp4 to avi, I'll upload the video | 19:55 |
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latzko | hi | 19:57 |
pupnik | . | 19:57 |
latzko | I wrote an applet, I can put it onto the desktop but if I try to select any of the applet later, tablet hangs az layout mode. After a reboot the half of the desktop is messed up. After another reboot, the whole desktop is a mess :) After removing my applet with ssh , it will be fine | 20:03 |
dorto | I select these settings: 400x240, frame rate: 29fps, bitrate: ~70kbps and all the videos play without any problem on default media player(no MPlayer required). | 20:03 |
saaib | omg, the video is now playing :S I guess the first time I uploaded the file got corrupted somehow | 20:04 |
latzko | What's wrong with my code? Where to start? :) | 20:05 |
dorto | latzko, did you try your applet in sandbox(that comes with developer SDK) first? Is it working there? | 20:08 |
dorto | saaib: great :) | 20:08 |
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latzko | dorto, yes, it works fine in sbox | 20:10 |
dorto | latzko, hmmm. that's a toughie then :( | 20:11 |
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saaib | dorto, did you use those setting on the Video converter application? | 20:14 |
dorto | Not needed if you use Media Converter to conver the videos. Just select the quality you want and it will create compatible video. | 20:14 |
dorto | I need to use those settings if I want to use another conversion tool, say AutoGK or HandBrake. | 20:15 |
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b0unc3 | hi | 20:20 |
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Alecrim | hi all!!! | 20:45 |
Alecrim | how could I open the menu using command line on my N800? | 20:46 |
Alecrim | any idea? | 20:50 |
bedboi | Alecrim: i'm not sure if there's a dbus method to call | 20:50 |
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bedboi | but if there is one, then you can use dbus-send | 20:51 |
bedboi | btw i'm just guessing | 20:51 |
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Alecrim | bedboi : thanks you very much !! how can I find the dbus method? any idea? | 20:52 |
[31d1] | run dbus-monitor --system and see what it spits out when you do whatever | 20:53 |
bedboi | yep | 20:53 |
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sp3000 | you could probably fake a keypress | 20:57 |
* sp3000 isn't sure about the dependencies on that | 20:57 | |
* nomis probably would synthesize a mouseclick. | 20:58 | |
sp3000 | in fullscreen? | 20:58 |
sp3000 | depends on the case :) | 20:58 |
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Alecrim | sp3000: it's not in fullscreen | 21:01 |
sp3000 | e.g. http://projects.o-hand.com/xresponse can do clicks | 21:02 |
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Alecrim | I tested xresponse, but not the version you're showing me. | 21:04 |
Alecrim | sp3000: I'll test it with xresponse(version indicated) | 21:05 |
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Alecrim | sp3000: sorry!! I'm wrong. I was using xautomation to automate clicks | 21:16 |
Alecrim | I'll test xresponse | 21:16 |
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sp3000 | (relevant sp3000 is relevant) | 21:20 |
pupnik | anybody got a sdl-ttf 2.0.7 for osso? | 21:25 |
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Alecrim | xresponse does not work with menu | 21:31 |
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pupnik | built libsdl-ttf2.0-dev_2.0.8-3_armel.deb | 21:47 |
pupnik | had to pull out the opengl stuff | 21:51 |
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pupnik | mmap2(NULL, 69632, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40844000 | 22:19 |
pupnik | that means it wants to map 69632 kbytes ? | 22:19 |
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disq | void * mmap2(void *start, size_t length, int prot, int flags, int fd, off_t pgoffset); | 22:20 |
disq | so yeah | 22:20 |
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disq | (from the mmap2 manpage) | 22:21 |
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pupnik | how do i edit applicationcatalog wishlist wiki? i am logged in | 22:37 |
pupnik | https://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationCatalogWishlist#83de191c12c3c109006c4593128d8bb6 | 22:38 |
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pupnik | i can find no link to click on to edit incorrect/outdated stuff | 22:38 |
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erstazi | pupnik: do you have javascript turned on? | 22:44 |
erstazi | pupnik: if you have javascript turned on, you will have a menu that you can move around the screen. | 22:45 |
sp3000 | it doesn't seem to appear if you load the page initially with an anchor | 22:46 |
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sp3000 | or it's picked a clever spot to hide | 22:46 |
pupnik | ok thanks | 22:46 |
* sp3000 asks domi where it is | 22:46 | |
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* sp3000 wonders wth javascript:alert(window.scrollY) says 0 when it's clearly not 0 | 22:49 | |
sp3000 | no wonder my autoscroll bookmarklet doesn't work on these | 22:49 |
sp3000 | midgard does some strange stuff | 22:49 |
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sp3000 | in konqueror it appears the first time but not reload on an anchor | 22:55 |
sp3000 | wee | 22:55 |
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erstazi | sp3000: I have never been a fan of midguard... but they know the people, its right down the road from nokia I guess /: | 22:58 |
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khem | hello, I want to see kernel messages over a serial port on my N800 any hints on how to do it | 23:00 |
erstazi | khem: someone else asked this a few days ago | 23:01 |
erstazi | khem: I don't remember the answer but google could be your friend to find it on the logs, they are accessible online | 23:02 |
khem | erstazi: there seems to be some pads besides the battery | 23:02 |
khem | that can be used but I dont know which pin is what | 23:02 |
alterego | USB->RS232? | 23:04 |
khem | alterego: what would it take to get serial over USB | 23:06 |
alterego | khem, hostmode possible a powered HUB and a USB-RS232 adapter. | 23:07 |
alterego | That's supported by Linux. | 23:07 |
alterego | And possibly a driver kernel module for said adapter. | 23:08 |
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khem | alterego: kernel module might load pretty late | 23:12 |
khem | in the boot process | 23:12 |
alterego | Well, custom kernel then :/ | 23:13 |
alterego | Though, the module can be loaded as soon as linuxrc is executed from the initrd if you like. | 23:14 |
alterego | Otherwise yeah. If you want the kernel boot process too then you'll have to have it built in. | 23:14 |
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pupnik | [Switching to Thread 16384 (LWP 1763)] | 23:14 |
pupnik | SoftRenderSurface<unsigned short>::Fill32 (this=0x1eb670, | 23:14 |
pupnik | rgb=65535, sx=17, sy=224, w=2, h=8) at memset_n.h:130 | 23:14 |
pupnik | 130 memset_n.h: No such file or directory. | 23:14 |
pupnik | in memset_n.h | 23:14 |
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pupnik | ah an alignment issue | 23:20 |
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pdb | Hello boys | 23:24 |
pdb | I am using the nokia 770 | 23:25 |
pdb | I got a little problem with it | 23:25 |
pdb | does not start streaming in vorbis *.ogg | 23:26 |
pdb | only mp3 | 23:26 |
pdb | I downloaded ogg vorbis player | 23:27 |
pdb | I installed it | 23:27 |
pdb | When i founded the voice stream i putted the http | 23:28 |
pdb | and now is locked without doing nothing and without give a reply, it remains totally white why ? | 23:29 |
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pdb | Then it is impossibile to visit other pages when i am downloading something i must to wait any time that fiinish the download to be sure that have downloaded all, many times happen it stops, or download any parts of all without i said to stop it it does himself | 23:39 |
pdb | now i got the battery down i must close the connection i must turn back to home to charge the battery and take my dinner | 23:41 |
pdb | I invite all of you to visit http://richardwarriors.net | 23:43 |
pdb | Bye bye paolo | 23:44 |
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