| erstazi | basically if you have [poop] and you wanted to link to [foo] which is a sub article of [poop] then you would do [/foo] which would be poop/foo in the URL | 00:00 |
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| pupnik | the standard nomenclature is foo/bar | 00:00 |
| erstazi | pupnik: I know, but poop came to mind first | 00:01 |
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| pupnik | Would any n800 owners here give pcsx a try and report framerates for playstation games? check thread here: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=70723#post70723 | 00:15 |
| pupnik | pcsx? | 00:15 |
| _Monkey | i guess pcsx is an open-source Playstation 1 emulator. An unoptimized build is available at http://pupnik.de/pcsx.html Its purpose is to frustrate users and annoy zodttd into porting psx4all to maemo. | 00:15 |
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| MoRpHeUz | pupnik: where do I find games to test pcsx ? | 00:18 |
| pupnik | right now the public-domain gaimes i have won't load in pcsx | 00:19 |
| pupnik | http://pupnik.de/hermitgames_PSX.zip | 00:19 |
| pupnik | i picked up a pile of psx games at a closeout sale a few years ago | 00:20 |
| pupnik | i haven't found what causes the seek past eof error yet | 00:22 |
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| bluehash | does anyone know if the uart on the OMAP is routed to the port near the battery pack of the n800 | 00:35 |
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| milhouse | it's a serial port, yes | 00:42 |
| bluehash | why doesnt it show up on /dev/tty | 00:42 |
| bluehash | I mean can i access it | 00:43 |
| milhouse | that i don't know. pinouts are on the web somewhere | 00:43 |
| bluehash | yes I did see them | 00:43 |
| milhouse | maybe it's only active during boot? | 00:43 |
| bluehash | The person got readouts while the N800 was booting | 00:43 |
| bluehash | yes | 00:43 |
| bluehash | hmm | 00:44 |
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| Paolo | good night boys | 01:47 |
| Paolo | Please could you help me ? | 01:47 |
| sully | What's the problem | 01:48 |
| _Monkey | the problem is that we need a better bot. Not just a monkey.... | 01:48 |
| Paolo | how to use ctorrent on nokia 770 ? | 01:48 |
| straind | That sounds like the problem alright. | 01:48 |
| sully | probably by reading its documentation | 01:49 |
| Paolo | from shell i done ctorrent -h to have the help | 01:49 |
| Paolo | but i have not understood how to download | 01:50 |
| sully | I'm kind of curious as to the usefulness of a torrent client for the 770 | 01:51 |
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| Paolo | I am using the nokia 770 now | 01:54 |
| Paolo | And i got the battery down | 01:54 |
| Paolo | Problably the connection could go down | 01:54 |
| Paolo | I am in a secondary street and i am using the wifi | 01:54 |
| Paolo | Of one that has a bad connection | 01:54 |
| Paolo | Could you help me if you can ? | 01:54 |
| sully | sorry, I don't know how to make it work | 01:54 |
| pupnik | i've downloaded with ctorrent | 01:55 |
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| Paolo | I have CTorrent | 01:55 |
| pupnik | you download a torrent file with browser | 01:56 |
| pupnik | then run ctorrent filename.torrent | 01:56 |
| pupnik | use -U 16 to limit upstream bandwidth to 16kB/s | 01:57 |
| kikka__ | Is there any delimitation of the mmc-card? | 01:58 |
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| sully | delimitation? | 01:59 |
| pupnik | kikka__: hi - i do not understand | 01:59 |
| kikka__ | pupnik: du sprichst doch deutsch? Oehm, ich meine Beschraekung der SD-Karte beim 770. :/ | 02:00 |
| pupnik | maximum size of mmc card? | 02:00 |
| kikka__ | jes. | 02:00 |
| sully | 2 gig limit right now | 02:00 |
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| kikka__ | Are. On 770? | 02:00 |
| pupnik | 2GB max on 770 | 02:00 |
| Paolo | Ok | 02:00 |
| Paolo | Yes | 02:00 |
| Paolo | Virtual mem | 02:00 |
| kikka__ | Mhm, nice. | 02:01 |
| * pupnik runs Oddworld - Abe's Oddessey on 770 :P | 02:02 | |
| sully | really? | 02:03 |
| pupnik | first time - still loading | 02:03 |
| sully | how does that work? *interested* | 02:03 |
| pupnik | very slowly! | 02:03 |
| pupnik | watching intro movie now | 02:04 |
| sully | Some ARM compile of the game? | 02:04 |
| pupnik | no running playstation emulator pcsx | 02:04 |
| sully | oh interesting. do any PSX games run decently? | 02:04 |
| pupnik | *Oddysee | 02:04 |
| pupnik | no | 02:05 |
| sully | haha | 02:05 |
| pupnik | about 0.6 fps on intro screen movie | 02:05 |
| pupnik | trying to start a game to see in-game fps | 02:06 |
| pupnik | psx4gp2x gets about 25 fps with frameskip | 02:06 |
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| bluehash | are there any cheap bluetooth serial modules out there | 02:06 |
| Luria_ | what do you do with a 45lb 8-month old | 02:07 |
| sully | :o | 02:07 |
| Luria_ | err.... dog | 02:07 |
| sully | thank god! | 02:07 |
| Luria_ | i forgot to mention it is a hyperactive dog | 02:07 |
| pupnik | bikeride | 02:07 |
| Luria_ | it would jump into the spokes :-) | 02:08 |
| Luria_ | bluehash, if you find one, btw, let us, or at least me, know | 02:08 |
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| Paolo | Guns_N______Roses_-_1987_-_Appetite_For_Dest | 02:09 |
| Luria_ | heh. my 30lb shiba totally pwns him | 02:10 |
| Paolo | This is the file torrent that i downloaded | 02:10 |
| Luria_ | and i don't use l33t lightly. | 02:10 |
| Paolo | i have started xterm | 02:10 |
| Paolo | I wrote sudo gainroot | 02:11 |
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| Paolo | cd /media/mmc1 | 02:11 |
| Paolo | ls | 02:11 |
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| Paolo | Then ctorrent -U 16 and the file downloaded | 02:12 |
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| bluehash | Luria: sure | 02:13 |
| Paolo | Error open Guns........ | 02:14 |
| bluehash | I did ask this before.. But there wasnt much trafiic then.. does anyone know if the uart on the OMAP is routed to the port near the battery pack of the n800 | 02:14 |
| Paolo | Error initial meta info failed | 02:14 |
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| Paolo | I think gz is better | 02:16 |
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| Paolo | http://thepiratebay.org | 02:17 |
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| Paolo | I thank i think to ask more detailed | 02:25 |
| Paolo | Info to any friend | 02:25 |
| pupnik | http://publicdomaintorrents.com/bt/btdownload.php?type=torrent&file=Betty_Boop_My_Friend_the_Monkey_PocketPC.avi.torrent | 02:26 |
| pupnik | that should work | 02:26 |
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| kikka__ | MHm... ScummVM :) :) | 02:28 |
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| pupnik | almost exactly 1.0 fps on Abe's Oddyssee :P | 02:34 |
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| pupnik | http://pupnik.de/PCSX_Nokia_770_02_Abes_Oddysee.png | 02:35 |
| sully | damn | 02:36 |
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| pupnik | if you have Abe's and a N800 i would like to know fps | 02:36 |
| pupnik | maybe 1.2 | 02:36 |
| pupnik | openGL would help just a bit :) | 02:37 |
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| eichi | hello, someone uses alternative solar or crank for charging this pda? | 02:51 |
| * pupnik points to a battery of hamsters on wheels | 02:54 | |
| sully | I use the gravitational force of the moon | 02:55 |
| pupnik | eichi: any 5v DC power supply should work, afaik | 02:56 |
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| eichi | hm sometimes i'm many days on camps, on the way with the bike and tent, etc. so it would be usefull to get power without any receptacle | 02:59 |
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| Luria_ | look at the soldius charger | 03:04 |
| Luria_ | no battery (which i prefer, though i understand the opposite side) | 03:04 |
| Luria_ | anyhoo, iirc, the n800's a/c adapter outputs 5v @890ma or so, so a 5w adapter should be fine. | 03:05 |
| Luria_ | i havent bought one yet myself, so i dunno | 03:05 |
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| setite | can i use the shasta keyboard with an n800? | 03:39 |
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| kikka__ | o Option for extended virtual memory (RS-MMC up to 1 GB) <- Really up to 2GB? ;) | 03:45 |
| pupnik | i run 2GB since november 2006 | 03:46 |
| kikka__ | Okay. :) | 03:46 |
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| setite | what can i use for a real file browser | 04:19 |
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| Emh5945 | Can someone walk me through compiling either swfdec or gnash for os 2006 on the n770, i cant seem to figure out how to do it | 04:35 |
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| setite | can someone tell me how to compile anything at all | 04:35 |
| setite | i have no idea | 04:35 |
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| saaib | setite, you'll need to read a tutorial on the GNU compilation tools (autogen, configure, make, etc) | 05:01 |
| sully | Anyone get MicroB working on their 770? | 05:02 |
| pupnik | when did microb get released? i missed it - URL? | 05:04 |
| sully | http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/6/ | 05:04 |
| setite | thank god for mulliner | 05:04 |
| setite | he allowed me to forgo learning to compile for another day | 05:05 |
| saaib | darn, how do I get the python netrc module? | 05:10 |
| saaib | while trying to launch uktube from xterm I got the import error 9no module netrc) | 05:10 |
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| pupnik | sully to answer your question, yes | 05:21 |
| sully | I get a whole bunch of missing dependencies | 05:21 |
| qgil | Wow, some people worked a lot on the wiki in the past hours, thanks a lot | 05:22 |
| qgil | Can someone change TONIGHT by TODAY in the #maemo topic? | 05:24 |
| saaib | pupnik, qgil do you guys know how i can install the netrc python module ? (UKTUBE requires it) | 05:24 |
| qgil | I think i can't with pidgin | 05:24 |
| *** saaib changes topic to "maemo is the application development platform for the Nokia Internet Tablets | Good questions deserve better answers | irc logs at http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/ | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/os2007on770/ | http://maemo.org/news/ login and fav! | HELP CLEANING THE WIKI ***TODAY*** AND GET A FREE maemo T-SHIRT!!! http://maemo.org/community/wiki/pagestodelete/" | 05:25 | |
| pupnik | soaib, no - i would google it, or type "apt-cache search python |grep netrc" to find the package name | 05:25 |
| qgil | Thx saaib | 05:25 |
| saaib | qgil, np | 05:26 |
| pupnik | microb not working with synergy + input method xim here (enter key or CR not working) | 05:29 |
| pupnik | hmm second time is the charm | 05:30 |
| pupnik | scrolling a little bit slower i guess but looks beautiful! | 05:31 |
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| Darksmurf-away | the cat chewed up my charger..I can't play w/ my 770 :-( | 05:40 |
| * Darksmurf-away wonders if there is 'cat-shot'..you know, kinda like 'bird-shot' but for cats... | 05:42 | |
| Luria_ | bird shot should work fine | 05:43 |
| qgil | Pets: love them . Hate them | 05:44 |
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| Luria_ | dogs, love them. cats, hate them. | 05:44 |
| qgil | 05:45 | |
| Darksmurf-away | Luria_ sounds good to me..try to tell that to my girl... Most of the time the cat is ok, this is the first cable she CHEWED IN HALF..if only it had been a little more juice.. | 05:45 |
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| emh5945 | can somebody compile gnash for me for my nokia n770 | 05:47 |
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| Luria_ | volts jolt, mils kill | 05:47 |
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| emh5945 | can someone compile gnash for the nokia n770 for me | 05:48 |
| Darksmurf-away | juice != volts in my book, juice = power | 05:52 |
| Darksmurf-away | it just dawned on me..I know how to solder. I can fix the psu cable :-) | 05:52 |
| * Darksmurf-away heats up soldering iron.. | 05:52 | |
| Luria_ | dont slip and impale/burn cat | 05:53 |
| Darksmurf-away | lol | 05:53 |
| Luria_ | or mistake the cat for a wet sponge | 05:53 |
| emh5945 | i need help compiling gnash for my n770 | 05:54 |
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| Luria_ | whats with the free t-shirt? | 05:57 |
| erstazi | Luria_: for helping out on the wiki | 05:58 |
| erstazi | Luria_: there are orphan pages that need linked appropriately or linked in PagesToDeleted | 05:58 |
| erstazi | or PagesToDelete | 05:59 |
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| setite | ok installing scratchbox is proving too hard for me | 06:15 |
| setite | so im not ment to be a compiler | 06:15 |
| Darksmurf-away | search for the vmware image | 06:15 |
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| setite | vmware image of what | 06:15 |
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| Darksmurf-away | its a linux install + xwindows + scratchbox | 06:16 |
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| Blacksitox | hola | 06:21 |
| Luria_ | omg, i want a faraday suit | 06:23 |
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| Darksmurf-away | ?? | 06:26 |
| setite | Darksmurf-away | 06:26 |
| setite | where would i find that | 06:26 |
| setite | and im not sure what you mean by vmware image | 06:26 |
| setite | i have vmware | 06:27 |
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| erstazi | setite: I think Darksmurf-away means the vmware app that has Ubuntu+scratchbox installed already | 06:28 |
| erstazi | the maemo vmware | 06:28 |
| setite | yea i figured as much.. still need to find it though | 06:28 |
| erstazi | I have it | 06:28 |
| setite | ok so am i googling maemo vmware or vmware scratchbox | 06:28 |
| erstazi | there is a torrent out there | 06:28 |
| erstazi | but then when you finish the torrent, its in 7z compressed format | 06:29 |
| setite | i think i have 7zip | 06:29 |
| erstazi | and thats built into linux, but windows you need to download the extractor | 06:29 |
| * Darksmurf-away fixed his cat chewed 770 charger :-D | 06:29 | |
| setite | found it it think | 06:30 |
| Darksmurf-away | winrar should do it...I downloaded the file from the server and it worked fine. | 06:30 |
| setite | Maemo Development VMWare Appliance | 06:30 |
| setite | on sumo torrent | 06:30 |
| erstazi | setite: I would dcc it to you, but its large of course as any vmware image would be | 06:30 |
| setite | anyoen know how to install an app as a service | 06:31 |
| setite | i want usirius to run as a service i think | 06:31 |
| erstazi | setite: on what? | 06:31 |
| setite | windows | 06:31 |
| _Monkey | i heard windows was a flashy MS-DOS shell | 06:31 |
| setite | i use usirius to listen to sirius satellite on my nokia | 06:32 |
| Darksmurf-away | nokia | 06:32 |
| setite | ill just make it a startup app and pray for the best | 06:32 |
| Darksmurf-away | _Monkey you don't have a snappy comment about nokia? | 06:32 |
| _Monkey | darksmurf-away: wish i knew | 06:32 |
| Luria_ | _Monkey, nokia? | 06:32 |
| _Monkey | nokia is, like, a company. It also sponsors maemo using sales of N800s. Buy one. Buy two | 06:32 |
| erstazi | setite: you could do MSCONFIG and then | 06:33 |
| setite | ssh is slow as shit sometime | 06:34 |
| erstazi | setite: and then select startup | 06:34 |
| setite | msconfig... yea i was figured that | 06:34 |
| setite | thank god vista still has msconfig | 06:34 |
| setite | i would be mad if they chagned that too | 06:34 |
| erstazi | ugh, vista | 06:35 |
| setite | in msconfig i dont see a way to add a startup app | 06:35 |
| setite | no vista comments please | 06:36 |
| erstazi | setite: you like "are you sure you want to do that?"? heh I am playing | 06:36 |
| setite | torrent is slow shit | 06:37 |
| setite | 15kbps | 06:37 |
| setite | you should dcc it :) | 06:37 |
| erstazi | yeah, not enough people seeding | 06:37 |
| erstazi | haha | 06:37 |
| erstazi | I won't be on all night and my bandwidth is consumed right now with distro torrents | 06:37 |
| Luria_ | _Monkey, vista? | 06:38 |
| _Monkey | luria_: bugger all, i dunno | 06:38 |
| Luria_ | speaking of distro torrents | 06:39 |
| Luria_ | anyone try elive? | 06:39 |
| erstazi | Luria_: not yet | 06:39 |
| Luria_ | really neat | 06:39 |
| erstazi | isn't it debian based? | 06:39 |
| Luria_ | yeah | 06:39 |
| setite | there are too mayn distros | 06:39 |
| Luria_ | with e16/17 | 06:39 |
| Luria_ | not really | 06:40 |
| erstazi | it uses EDE or some different DE | 06:40 |
| setite | imagine what would get done if more distros were assimilated into more promising ones | 06:40 |
| Luria_ | enlightenment e16/17 | 06:40 |
| setite | i would love to see some people on the ubuntu team concerned with speed | 06:40 |
| setite | or some people on the slackware team concerned with better hardware discovery | 06:41 |
| Luria_ | they do. ive seen distros take thoughts and code from others. hence gpl... | 06:41 |
| setite | slackware is the only os I have tried so far that fights my network card | 06:41 |
| setite | i just wish a super distro would emerge to take back the world from windows | 06:42 |
| setite | one that both newbs and elitists alike would use | 06:42 |
| Luria_ | yeah, that wouldnt quite work | 06:42 |
| erstazi | setite: well, so far Ubuntu has done that, but I have been hoping something else would jump on the ring | 06:42 |
| Luria_ | kubuntu :-) | 06:42 |
| setite | if a good team set themselves to it they could get damned close | 06:42 |
| erstazi | I think Fedora is a decent distro | 06:43 |
| setite | erstazi elitists hate ubuntu | 06:43 |
| erstazi | setite: of course | 06:43 |
| Luria_ | i like debian and suse | 06:43 |
| Luria_ | and openbsd | 06:43 |
| setite | i know a bunch of slackers who cant stand it... whining about true admin stuff | 06:43 |
| Luria_ | :-) | 06:43 |
| erstazi | but you have to realize, elitists will not use what newbs will use | 06:43 |
| erstazi | you cannot bind those two together | 06:43 |
| Luria_ | and i really am liking elive | 06:43 |
| Luria_ | plus there are a billion special use distros | 06:44 |
| erstazi | I think Gentoo users are more... "elitist" than slackware | 06:44 |
| erstazi | I used slackware back in 95, my brother introduced it to me | 06:44 |
| setite | they wont on principal i know.. but it would be nice to have an OS that they cant legitimately grip about | 06:44 |
| erstazi | Damn Small Linux is great on older pc's, the XFCE DE is very easy flowing | 06:44 |
| setite | found a direct link to maemo appliance | 06:45 |
| setite | getting it on flashget | 06:45 |
| setite | tar ball though | 06:45 |
| Luria_ | i use dsl... but elive is cooler | 06:45 |
| setite | i use ubuntu because im lazy | 06:45 |
| setite | but i think its damned slow | 06:45 |
| setite | like web browsing has annoying delays | 06:45 |
| erstazi | setite: it is slow because of the DE, but KDE is slower on Kubuntu, its not implemented right | 06:46 |
| Luria_ | only thing is the "feed me" approach by its developer and hidden ftp servers | 06:46 |
| setite | i hear the new kernel has network optimizations that allow a rig to download faster | 06:46 |
| erstazi | hopefully | 06:46 |
| setite | i just cant stand ubuntus browsing delays | 06:46 |
| erstazi | setite: its how firefox is implemented | 06:47 |
| setite | i type in a page in firefox windoze and its almost immediate | 06:47 |
| setite | in firefox ubuntu it takes 2-5 seconds to start loading | 06:47 |
| erstazi | firefox uses XUL for the graphical layout | 06:47 |
| erstazi | which is xml based | 06:47 |
| erstazi | between 1.5.x and 2.0.0.x, firefox became very bloated | 06:48 |
| Luria_ | thats why i use k-meleon as my browser when alt-tabbed out of a modern game. | 06:48 |
| erstazi | I am finding opera to be very light weight | 06:48 |
| Luria_ | (on windows, of course) | 06:48 |
| erstazi | but I still use firefox primarily | 06:48 |
| erstazi | you have to avoid extensions, really | 06:49 |
| erstazi | thats what blogs down firefox a lot. | 06:49 |
| setite | opera... light weight? | 06:49 |
| setite | what are you smoking | 06:49 |
| erstazi | setite: ok, quicker response heh | 06:49 |
| Luria_ | extensions arent too bad... | 06:49 |
| setite | i love opera.. but i havent seen a browser this bloated since aol | 06:49 |
| erstazi | well, AOL's browser was basied on mozilla | 06:50 |
| setite | and aol wasnt a browser.. but you know what i mean.. opera reminds me of the aol app | 06:50 |
| setite | i thought aol was msie | 06:50 |
| erstazi | no, they bought netscape, which netscape owned mozilla | 06:50 |
| erstazi | or some sort | 06:50 |
| erstazi | basically, AOL had the software rights and then dropped them or some sort | 06:50 |
| setite | so aol owns firefox? | 06:50 |
| erstazi | no | 06:50 |
| erstazi | ^^ | 06:50 |
| erstazi | and actually, they used some sort of mix, technically, it is its own browser | 06:51 |
| erstazi | it uses IE's settings but different rendering | 06:51 |
| erstazi | or some sort, I never really dug into it, but my wife uses AOL sadly ugh | 06:51 |
| erstazi | I cannot convince her to get rid of it | 06:52 |
| setite | you are a sad man if you cant get her off it :) | 06:52 |
| setite | brb... | 06:52 |
| erstazi | I am about to do whitelisting here soon for the hardware firewall, so then AOL won't be able to connect | 06:53 |
| erstazi | and when she asks whats wrong, I will be like "I don't support aol, sorry" | 06:53 |
| Luria_ | damn.... aol is still in business? | 06:54 |
| erstazi | Luria_: sadly | 06:58 |
| erstazi | they offer their operating system for free now... no more payments if you have broadband | 06:59 |
| erstazi | heh | 06:59 |
| erstazi | ok I am going to sleep, everyone have a good night (: | 07:00 |
| Darksmurf-away | anyone know where to get the flash9 plugin for MicroB on the 770? | 07:01 |
| Darksmurf-away | (http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/6/) | 07:02 |
| setite | back | 07:02 |
| setite | im still in shock netzero is afloat | 07:03 |
| setite | i miss when they were free | 07:03 |
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| setite | im one of the reasons aol is in business | 07:03 |
| setite | i paid for their BYOA plan for like two years so i didnt have to get a new IM account | 07:04 |
| setite | i finally said fuck it one day | 07:04 |
| setite | and a month earlier they had changed their policy allowing you to keep your name when you cancelled | 07:04 |
| setite | so i lucked out | 07:04 |
| setite | 5 mins left on this tar ball | 07:05 |
| Darksmurf-away | so..I installed MicroB and now I have tabs. I had also just installed Minimo. I see tabs on the builtin browser so I assume MicroB gave me tabs and not minimo | 07:09 |
| Darksmurf-away | right? | 07:09 |
| setite | i hate minimo | 07:09 |
| setite | it opens slow and wont let me paste urls | 07:09 |
| setite | well that last part happened once.. but it does open slow as shit.. | 07:10 |
| setite | but it lets me run sites opera wont | 07:10 |
| setite | even though minimo means mini mozilla i keep thinking mini mo as in homo | 07:11 |
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| GeneralAntilles | lol | 07:26 |
| GeneralAntilles | Minimo is a pain | 07:26 |
| GeneralAntilles | UI doesn't behave right | 07:26 |
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| sparr | i love my new tablet pc | 07:29 |
| sparr | like a grown up 770 :) | 07:30 |
| sparr | too bad i have to sell it :( | 07:30 |
| derf | sparr: Oh, I forgot, did you still need that .ogg file with comments? | 07:30 |
| sparr | nope, all good here | 07:30 |
| sparr | i think we pretty clearly drew the line on what does and doesnt work with mutagen and ogg | 07:31 |
| derf | Oh? | 07:32 |
| Lynoure | sparr: Which kind is it? | 07:33 |
| sparr | Lynoure: motion m1400 | 07:33 |
| sparr | ive got kubuntu running on it | 07:33 |
| whaq__ | http://nmacleod.com/nokia/n800/microb_flash-4.2007.tar.gz | 07:33 |
| Lynoure | sparr: looks nice, but quite expensive and heavier than it looks, I guess for anything over 1kg I'd want some sort of keyboard included | 07:40 |
| sparr | i picked it up for $200, sans hard drive | 07:40 |
| sparr | with 1GB of ram | 07:41 |
| Lynoure | sparr: wow, that was well, compared to the >1000 sterling normally | 07:41 |
| sparr | aye | 07:41 |
| sparr | a steal | 07:41 |
| sparr | but i cant afford to not sell it :( | 07:41 |
| sparr | $200 tablet is nice. $400+ in my pocket is nicer. | 07:42 |
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| Lynoure | sparr: Could you do a freehand line test on it, just for fun? I got lately really curious about touchscreen sensitivity/accuracy, and mused over easy way of testing it: http://www.lynoure.org/blog/index.php?/archives/190-Testing-tablet-touchscreens.html | 07:57 |
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| Lynoure | Not very scientific, but easy and doable without anything special needed. | 07:58 |
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| timely | Darksmurf-away: yes microb gave you tabs | 08:35 |
| timely | GeneralAntilles: minimo's interaction w/ the vkb was *amazingly* frustrating | 08:36 |
| dolske | Mmmm... 32GB SD cards. http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/20070822/toshiba-goes-big-with-high-capacity-sd-cards/ | 08:36 |
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| timely | whaq__: oh one thing, the actual path for the flash plugin is different for os2006 | 08:39 |
| timely | i forgot about that detail | 08:39 |
| timely | because if you stick it into the normal place, it'll thoroughly confuse opera | 08:40 |
| timely | or at least, i expect it should confuse opera. i didn't try. | 08:40 |
| timely | iirc plugins should be in usr/lib/browser/plugins/2007/ | 08:41 |
| lle2 | timely: talking of plugins, is there any chance of running the flash plugin in a separate process with a super low priority? It's making everything dog slow as it is. | 08:42 |
| timely | lle2: well err, technically yes | 08:42 |
| timely | in fact i think someone tried to do it once (no relation to nokia, just a genera linux thing) | 08:42 |
| timely | basically it means you have to proxy NPAPI calls across processes | 08:43 |
| timely | NPAPI is actually not that big... | 08:43 |
| timely | actually, maybe what they did was create a 64->32bit wrapper instead of an out of process one | 08:43 |
| timely | but practically speaking, all thunks are created equal, so the work to do one is pretty close to the work to do the next | 08:44 |
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| lle2 | it should be out of process so that it can be killed and memory reclaimed | 08:44 |
| timely | it should be out of process so when it crashes people don't bother me | 08:44 |
| lle2 | that also | 08:44 |
| lle2 | because almost all the problems I'm seeing are caused by flash | 08:44 |
| timely | anyway, conceptually all you have to do is make some code that can do loadlibrary and proxy npapi | 08:45 |
| timely | i'd start w/ the 64=>32bit plugin | 08:45 |
| lle2 | makes the whole device totally unresponsive on many websites | 08:45 |
| timely | since that does the first half | 08:45 |
| timely | problem is, i'm not going to get those resources | 08:46 |
| timely | even though it'd be a huge win for us | 08:46 |
| timely | hrm | 08:46 |
| timely | well, maybe that's not true | 08:46 |
| timely | if i can show it's a real perf win, maybe i can reallocate a perf contractor :) | 08:46 |
| lle2 | :) | 08:46 |
| timely | but don't hold your breath | 08:46 |
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| lle2 | I'm not | 08:46 |
| timely | i've wanted out of process plugins for years | 08:46 |
| timely | atm, a slightly more immediate problem is that microb's npapi doesn't offer wmode | 08:47 |
| * timely wonders if anyone has noticed | 08:47 | |
| timely | https://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?ctx=%67mail&hl=en&answer=62374 | 08:48 |
| timely | is so unhelpful | 08:48 |
| lle2 | it's just that the device is pretty solid in normal use with flash disabled (tens of days of uptime) | 08:49 |
| timely | you must have access to a power cable | 08:50 |
| timely | the only device i have like that w/ good uptime is a 770 on my desk at work | 08:51 |
| timely | and it runs 2005 | 08:51 |
| lle2 | uh, it's a multimedia computer, of course it's connected to wall socket | 08:51 |
| * timely rotfl | 08:51 | |
| * timely sighs | 08:51 | |
| timely | i deleted all my trash, and in the time it took to do that, i got 2 new messages in my trash | 08:52 |
| whaq__ | timely: ok, i don't have a 770. i posted that link cause someone was looking for it earlier. | 08:53 |
| timely | whaq__: yeah, i understand | 08:54 |
| timely | hrm, my 770 thinks it's 9:54am | 08:55 |
| timely | too bad my mac tells me it's 8:55am | 08:55 |
| lle2 | 770 is more advanced than your mac | 08:55 |
| whaq__ | my n800 thinks it's cool | 08:56 |
| whaq__ | and i concur with it. | 08:56 |
| timely | the 770 thinks it's a vista box | 08:56 |
| timely | it also thinks that the top left icon in the task navigator will run opera | 08:57 |
| timely | little does it know that i intend to secretly replace that with microb | 08:57 |
| * timely wonders what portion of the channel will recognize the allusion | 08:57 | |
| lle2 | hmm, it has only 64MB, the size of that concept won't fit | 08:57 |
| whaq__ | you're making it a bi | 08:57 |
| whaq__ | hermabrowdite | 08:58 |
| timely | hrm: note to webmaster for browser.garage: site looks awful in opera8 | 08:58 |
| timely | oh right, that was the "you need js enabled if you want the site to have css" | 08:59 |
| * timely sighs | 08:59 | |
| timely | i tried fixing that once and gave up | 08:59 |
| lle2 | timely: do you think it would be possible to make tapping on links work so that while the pen is down, you could "aim" it at the right link, highlighting the one that would be clicked when the pen is lifted? | 09:00 |
| timely | maybe | 09:00 |
| timely | we need to do something like that anyway for thumb support in the future | 09:00 |
| timely | i think the plan is to spend a significant amount of time working on that | 09:01 |
| whaq__ | IT OS can benefit greatly from gestures and kinetic scrolls | 09:01 |
| lle2 | might be interesting trying to differentiate a pan from aim&click | 09:02 |
| timely | whaq__: i have a headache already | 09:02 |
| timely | please don't give me another | 09:02 |
| timely | panning and spatial navigation are two of the biggest headaches this stupid platform have given me | 09:02 |
| timely | whaq__: it os might benefit from such things | 09:03 |
| timely | but web browsers for devices w/ a single button | 09:03 |
| timely | and no working keyboard | 09:03 |
| timely | really can't deal with people stealing input that web pages will actually handle in their own creative ways | 09:03 |
| timely | e.g. google maps wants all your gestures and right clicks | 09:03 |
| timely | docs and spreadsheets do too | 09:03 |
| timely | google reader even wants your scroll wheel | 09:04 |
| whaq__ | in its own javascript window | 09:04 |
| timely | ? | 09:04 |
| lle2 | maybe panning should only happen when it's really a swipe, a high speed movement over a substantial part of the screen | 09:04 |
| timely | panning should just die | 09:04 |
| lle2 | yup, put the flash in the pan while it's burned | 09:05 |
| timely | what if i'm playing a web game that does something based on speed | 09:05 |
| timely | lle2: with pleasure | 09:05 |
| * timely grumbles | 09:05 | |
| timely | Unable to install microb-browser | 09:05 |
| timely | Packages missing: | 09:05 |
| timely | hildon-libs0 >= 0.12.24-3 | 09:06 |
| timely | hildon-libs0 >= 0.12.24-3 | 09:06 |
| timely | [ Close ] | 09:06 |
| * timely kicks romaxa | 09:06 | |
| timely | he's always trying to force me to upgrade to the latest IT OS | 09:06 |
| timely | first he tried to make me get IT OS 4.2007 | 09:06 |
| timely | when i was perfectly happy w/ IT OS 3.2007 | 09:07 |
| timely | now he wants me to get 3.2006 | 09:07 |
| timely | when i'm perfectly happy w/ 2.2006 | 09:08 |
| timely | actually, it's not so much that i'm happy w/ what i have, but that i have so many installed applications, that i'm not considering migrating | 09:08 |
| timely | btw, did anyone recognize the picture I used for microb/2006? | 09:09 |
| whaq__ | it's interesting that people can interchange 'happiness' and 'settling.. contentment' | 09:10 |
| whaq__ | the cost to improve is too much for me | 09:10 |
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| timely | it's very simple. if it's working, don't break it | 09:14 |
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| timely | i use windows 2000 on my pc. i use osx 10.3.9 on my mac | 09:15 |
| timely | oh whoops | 09:17 |
| timely | well, that explains why there's no picture on planet.maemo | 09:17 |
| * timely forgot to fix the relative link | 09:17 | |
| lle2 | the only way to get people to use newer version of your software is by making your previous version so bad they are desperate to upgrade | 09:20 |
| timely | anyway, as a warning for people who don't read wiki.maemo.org carefully, bugs.maemo.org will be shifting dramatically over the weekend | 09:20 |
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| timely | if you happen to be set to watch everyone (no one should do that), or have managed to vote for a lot of bugs or cc yourself to a lot of bugs, you /might/ want to change your mail preferences to not get bugmail for things w/o comments | 09:24 |
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| latzko | hi | 09:32 |
| latzko | I am writting a home applet that needs input. Is it possibe to move the applet up to the top of the screen, when keyboard appears (as applications behave)? | 09:34 |
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| dubdibdub | mornin' | 09:42 |
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| kulve | latzko: I don't think so (I'm not 100% sure though) | 09:43 |
| latzko | hm, I am afraid of that too | 09:44 |
| roope | latzko you could just put the text field in a dialog. | 09:44 |
| roope | home applets currently can't unfortunately move. | 09:45 |
| roope | like that. | 09:45 |
| latzko | I see. thanks | 09:45 |
| dubdibdub | does anyone know where i can tell my own .desktop entry in /usr/share/applications/* to not(!) appear below the folder 'Extras' ?? | 09:51 |
| dubdibdub | best would be to put the entry to the top - where skype is! | 09:51 |
| kulve | dubdibdub: /etc/othersmenu, iirc | 09:54 |
| dubdibdub | let's see.... | 09:55 |
| dubdibdub | skype got no entry there... | 09:56 |
| timely | roope: so the google search applet is just broken if you have it in the bototm half of the screen? :) | 09:57 |
| dubdibdub | timely: w00t?? | 09:58 |
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| Dasaev | you can type the text just fine and press enter to start the search :) | 09:58 |
| timely | dubdibdub: eh? | 10:00 |
| dubdibdub | cannot believe google applet doesnt work down there | 10:01 |
| latzko | another q: when I build the interface for the applet in hildon_home_applet_lib_initialize (), every widget appears for the first time like gtk_widget_show:_all () was called but I do not want that. why is this? | 10:02 |
| dubdibdub | kulve: do you have another idea where it could be?? just tried to copy 1100_filemanager.desktop to 1010_myapp.desktop and changed the Name entry to Test => doesnt work | 10:03 |
| timely | dubdibdub: i'm too lazy to test from here | 10:03 |
| timely | besides, i need to go to work | 10:03 |
| timely | but i'm going to file a planet bug first | 10:03 |
| dubdibdub | timely: have a lot of f** | 10:04 |
| kulve | dubdibdub: those are links and the number should state the position | 10:04 |
| kulve | smaller the number the higher it is. Again, iirc.. | 10:04 |
| dubdibdub | kulve: ls -la...... i'm too stupid... pebkac... sorry | 10:04 |
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| latzko | well, I tried, google applet works down there but keyboard covers it when typing :) | 10:07 |
| kulve | latzko: use the thumb keyboard and it will cover the rest too ;) | 10:08 |
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| dubdibdub | now i have a softlink to my .desktop file in the others-menu. even with the same owner/group - but my-app is still below the folder 'Extras'... :( | 10:09 |
| latzko | kulve, sure :) | 10:09 |
| kulve | dubdibdub: hmm. | 10:09 |
| kulve | there was some update command.. | 10:09 |
| kulve | hmm.. maybe there wasn't.. | 10:09 |
| dubdibdub | i'll try to reboot it... | 10:10 |
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| * timely files bug 1900 :) | 10:11 | |
| _Monkey | Bug 1900 might be found at https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1900 | 10:11 |
| dubdibdub | kulve: after a reboot it is still beyond 'Extras' | 10:16 |
| dubdibdub | i also cannot find anything menu-related via gconftool-2 -R / | 10:18 |
| kulve | sorry, I can't help you more about that.. Maybe there's a conf file or something? | 10:18 |
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| dubdibdub | wouldn't have asked if i would not have already looked for ;) | 10:19 |
| dubdibdub | so i'll let it... | 10:19 |
| dubdibdub | kulve: thanks anyway | 10:21 |
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| tigert | huomenta | 10:58 |
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| timeless | hello tigert | 11:01 |
| timeless | btw, in case people are curious about the shirt they're receiving, there should be a picture of one on planet | 11:01 |
| timeless | i suppose it depends how often planet polls the browser feed :) | 11:01 |
| timeless | http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/news.html for people who are impatient | 11:02 |
| timeless | tigert: btw, i hope you don't mind, you're mentioned in #5, which will still be visible for the weekend | 11:02 |
| timeless | although it should disappear sometime next week | 11:02 |
| tigert | #5? | 11:03 |
| timeless | http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/5/ | 11:03 |
| timeless | i make my urls very easy to write and guess | 11:04 |
| timeless | but absolutely meaningless w/o reading :) | 11:04 |
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| timeless | oh darn | 11:07 |
| * timeless curses | 11:07 | |
| timeless | note to self: be sure that the dates for blog entries are reasonable | 11:08 |
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| AD-N770 | good morning | 11:20 |
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| matmo | morning | 12:29 |
| _Monkey | aloha | 12:29 |
| matmo | _Monkey: sod off you robotic ape | 12:29 |
| _Monkey | matmo: what? | 12:29 |
| matmo | _Monkey: you heard me | 12:29 |
| _Monkey | matmo: excuse me? | 12:29 |
| matmo | anyone have connection probs on 2007HE? | 12:31 |
| matmo | (network) | 12:31 |
| keesj | the "old" he? or is there a new one | 12:36 |
| timeless | matmo: grumpy today i see | 12:36 |
| matmo | new when? | 12:36 |
| matmo | oh, ok, off to check... | 12:36 |
| greygusb | mh, 2007 Hacker Edition, whats different to the consumer version? | 12:36 |
| timeless | consumer version of what? | 12:37 |
| timeless | it os 2007 runs on n800s | 12:37 |
| timeless | 2007 he runs on 770s | 12:37 |
| greygusb | ah, i see, ok | 12:37 |
| greygusb | thought there are two versions now for n800 | 12:37 |
| keesj | it's goodstuff[tm] | 12:37 |
| * greygusb gets first coffee | 12:37 | |
| timeless | there are 4 versions of 2007 for n800 | 12:37 |
| greygusb | all the updates of the 2007 os i assume | 12:38 |
| timeless | well, technically 5: 0.2007 (collector's edition), 1.2007 (general release), 2.2007 (first bugfix), 3.2007 (first feature fix), 4.2007 (flash9) | 12:38 |
| matmo | remind me, where to get HE? | 12:38 |
| timeless | google? | 12:38 |
| _Monkey | i think google is my friend | 12:38 |
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| timeless | _monkey: google is also \you should make it your friend too | 12:39 |
| _Monkey | okay, timeless. | 12:39 |
| matmo | nm, found the post on ITT | 12:39 |
| greygusb | so, now i bought yet another usb hub, i just hope this one works without drawing power from the host | 12:39 |
| timeless | _monkey literal google | 12:40 |
| _Monkey | timeless: google =is= _Monkey's friend or you should make it _Monkey's friend too | 12:40 |
| timeless | _monkey literal google | 12:40 |
| _Monkey | timeless: google =is= your friend or you should make it _Monkey's friend too | 12:40 |
| timeless | _monkey literal google | 12:40 |
| _Monkey | timeless: google =is= your friend or you should make it \your friend too | 12:40 |
| timeless | _monkey google =~ s/or/and/ | 12:40 |
| _Monkey | OK, timeless | 12:40 |
| timeless | google? | 12:41 |
| _Monkey | rumour has it google is your friend and you should make it \ friend too | 12:41 |
| timeless | hrm, that's wrong | 12:41 |
| timeless | google? | 12:41 |
| _Monkey | google is probably your friend and you should make it my friend too | 12:41 |
| timeless | _monkey literal google | 12:41 |
| _Monkey | timeless: google =is= your friend and you should make it _Monkey's friend too | 12:41 |
| timeless | google? | 12:42 |
| _Monkey | hmmm... google is my friend and you should make it \ friend too | 12:42 |
| * timeless cries | 12:42 | |
| Gathaja | :) | 12:42 |
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| matmo | keesj: sry, misunderstood, the latest one, aka, the one I installed a week or so ago | 12:43 |
| matmo | timeless: not grumpy! Just insulting Monkey for the fun of it :-) | 12:44 |
| konttori | timeless: I was just using the microb today to catch the news and thought that your idea about the firefox default popup scroller might be pretty good scrolling method as well (from the last time we discussed it). But for now, could it be possible by any means to add support for users to reconfigure dpad up and down (or zoom + - ) to act as page up / down? | 12:46 |
| timeless | maybe | 12:46 |
| timeless | i'm hoping to eventually find someone to make either an overlay or another application or something | 12:47 |
| timeless | which would sit on right/left edge of screen | 12:47 |
| konttori | It would really help browsing the pages, as the current implementation of the finger scroll seems to be at least on my device too eager to make a 'click' instead of actually dragging the content | 12:47 |
| timeless | and act as a virtual mouse | 12:47 |
| timeless | i shoudl draw a picture of what i want | 12:47 |
| timeless | maybe you can find someone to do it :) | 12:47 |
| konttori | Anyway, the keyboard method should be pretty easy to implement. It could even be something that would have to be set on in the about:config, but some method of redirecting the keys would be really great | 12:48 |
| konttori | although, I would prefer it to be in the normal options / preferences dialog. | 12:49 |
| timeless | first i need to get romaxa to fix snav so it doesn't clobber snav.disabled each time you launch the browser :) | 12:49 |
| konttori | It might be for example a toggle for either having the zoom keys as zoom or for page up / down. | 12:49 |
| konttori | what's snav? | 12:49 |
| sp3000 | spatialnav | 12:49 |
| timeless | the stupid behavior for long press of the arrow keys | 12:49 |
| konttori | ahh.. that onw | 12:50 |
| konttori | By the way, could you make that move faster while you are at it? | 12:50 |
| konttori | at the moment it's so slowly moving that there's really no use of it. | 12:50 |
| konttori | maybe put it for 4x speed of the current speed. | 12:50 |
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| unique311 | pupnik, ??? | 12:52 |
| _Monkey | pupnik, is there a nice tutorial for packaing for the N800 | 12:52 |
| unique311 | wtf | 12:52 |
| konttori | wtf | 12:52 |
| konttori | can someone kill the monkey? | 12:52 |
| unique311 | monkey if i ever get a access password for you... | 12:52 |
| unique311 | lol | 12:53 |
| unique311 | took the words right out of my mouth konttori | 12:53 |
| unique311 | how's ukmp doing konttori ? | 12:53 |
| unique311 | it picks up 30 albums now... | 12:54 |
| unique311 | on my n800 | 12:54 |
| konttori | I've used 100 albums on it | 12:54 |
| konttori | or over 100 | 12:54 |
| matmo | can someone try www.hotukdeals.com on HE (opera)? I just get a blank page with ">" | 12:54 |
| konttori | I was in island for a week, so not much dev for it. | 12:54 |
| unique311 | sorry i meant 30 tracks | 12:54 |
| konttori | iceland | 12:54 |
| unique311 | i have a top 100.. | 12:54 |
| unique311 | and only 30 tracks show up | 12:55 |
| konttori | ahh... yeah. It's hard coded. | 12:55 |
| konttori | I was thinking about making that dynamic. | 12:55 |
| unique311 | not sure what you mean. but sounds good.. | 12:55 |
| konttori | Aww.. Ok, I'll make it dynamic in the weekend. | 12:55 |
| greygusb | damned, now i have a new hub, but the friggin cable is at home ... | 12:55 |
| unique311 | find myself using ukmp and kagu all the mostly on the tablet anyways. | 12:56 |
| konttori | The song count per album is hard coded to be at the most 30 (for memory concerns) | 12:56 |
| unique311 | ok | 12:56 |
| konttori | did you notice the lastfm integration in the latest version? It's really cool imho. (kudos for disq) | 12:56 |
| matmo | can someone try www.hotukdeals.com on HE (opera)? I just get a blank page with ">" - please | 12:56 |
| unique311 | yeah | 12:57 |
| unique311 | hold on matmo | 12:57 |
| konttori | This your profile? http://www.last.fm/user/unique311 | 12:57 |
| matmo | hmm, 770 bundled with sat nav £140 (amazon) | 12:57 |
| unique311 | konttori, should be.. | 12:58 |
| unique311 | the only nick i use on most of my registrations | 12:58 |
| unique311 | thats me | 12:58 |
| unique311 | sorry matmo. not running HE | 12:59 |
| unique311 | just woke up. | 13:00 |
| matmo | ok | 13:00 |
| konttori | I social networked with you | 13:00 |
| unique311 | runs fine in microb | 13:00 |
| unique311 | just got into 80's music.. | 13:00 |
| matmo | 880? can't get microb installed on 770, although I haven't tried latest instructions | 13:00 |
| unique311 | and listening to quite a bit of the 60's also. | 13:01 |
| unique311 | not sure my list is going to interest you konttori | 13:01 |
| konttori | ;) | 13:01 |
| unique311 | pupnik, final fantasy XI playonline fees suck | 13:03 |
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| matmo | when converting an app to run on maemo what is the absolute bare minimum required? | 13:04 |
| konttori | compile it and make a deb | 13:05 |
| konttori | If possible, hildonize it, but that's optional. | 13:05 |
| unique311 | optional | 13:05 |
| unique311 | seems required.. | 13:06 |
| matmo | I mean for it to play nice with os and other windows. | 13:06 |
| unique311 | some apps are not usable at all if you don't hildon it. | 13:06 |
| red-zack | hi there | 13:06 |
| _Monkey | hola, red-zack | 13:06 |
| red-zack | lol | 13:06 |
| unique311 | hellos | 13:06 |
| red-zack | 12:06 < red-zack> hi there | 13:07 |
| red-zack | 12:07 < _Monkey> hola, red-zack | 13:07 |
| red-zack | 12:07 < red-zack> lol | 13:07 |
| red-zack | rofl | 13:07 |
| matmo | atm Squeak is my interest, runs ok | 13:07 |
| red-zack | mindreader | 13:07 |
| konttori | well, imho, some apps work pretty well even if you leave them to use the gtk menus and other widgets. | 13:08 |
| red-zack | i even need a dark theme. anyone could help? | 13:08 |
| matmo | squeak is a bit self-contained in that respect | 13:08 |
| unique311 | matmo, what is squeak? | 13:08 |
| matmo | www.squeak.org (smalltalk environment) | 13:08 |
| matmo | here's some pics frome someone working on the UI: http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/ | 13:09 |
| unique311 | you working on compiling it for maemo? | 13:10 |
| matmo | already compiled and works | 13:10 |
| red-zack | nice | 13:11 |
| matmo | expects 3 button mouse though someone has work-around (gesture recognition) | 13:11 |
| matmo | I have it working in SB on puppylinux in vmware on winxp (phew) | 13:13 |
| matmo | ...and still very responsive :-) | 13:15 |
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| matmo | see here for list of goodies: http://map1.squeakfoundation.org/ | 13:19 |
| matmo | plus there is Seaside (http://www.seaside.st/) and of course the UI is dynamically customisable, as is 99% of the system | 13:21 |
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| gcorriga | hi all | 13:27 |
| matmo | hi :-) | 13:27 |
| gcorriga | I understand you were talking about Squeak | 13:27 |
| matmo | gcorriga: what do you like about squeak? | 13:28 |
| gcorriga | the community | 13:28 |
| gcorriga | ;-) | 13:28 |
| matmo | agree, but the sw is good as well eh? ;-) | 13:29 |
| gcorriga | seriously, the fact that I can manipulate almost everything from inside the environment. | 13:29 |
| gcorriga | matmo: sure, the software is good, too | 13:29 |
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| matmo | gcorriga: I modded the movie player recently. Had it scanning through some mpeg's looking for lighting strikes. Morphic made it easy. Going to do same on 770 next week. | 13:43 |
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| greygusb | hey Nermal, greetings from daemon :) | 13:50 |
| greygusb | we just discovered you are the same Nermal as in #suse :) | 13:50 |
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| unique311 | to the whitestork dev, thanks for a great app | 14:08 |
| whaq | hey unique311, where do you get dictionaries for whitestork? | 14:23 |
| greygusb | yeah, are there english - chinese dicts anywhere? or can whitestork now use edict files. | 14:24 |
| unique311 | whaq, http://xdxf.revdanica.com/down/index.php | 14:25 |
| unique311 | found english to french. | 14:25 |
| whaq | wow brilliant | 14:26 |
| unique311 | alot of languages in selection | 14:26 |
| whaq | unique311: thanks. | 14:26 |
| unique311 | np | 14:26 |
| whaq | How's the quality and size of the dictionaries from that page? | 14:26 |
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| unique311 | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=95155 | 14:28 |
| unique311 | hold on let me check the dict i dl | 14:28 |
| unique311 | 1.70MB | 14:28 |
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| whaq | that's quite small | 14:29 |
| unique311 | all of the dictionairies from xdxf.revdanica.com are on the sourceforge link | 14:29 |
| unique311 | guessing you can also put the converters on the sourceforge link to work also. | 14:31 |
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| unique311 | greygusb, chinese to english dictionary on sourceforge | 14:36 |
| cosmo | is there a way to change target from x86 to arm in sbox 0.9.8 without rebooting? | 14:43 |
| cosmo | it always complains "You have 2 other Scratchbox sessions running! | 14:44 |
| cosmo | You must terminate them before the active target can be changed. | 14:44 |
| cosmo | " | 14:44 |
| keesj | yes try killing the processes listed when using ps | 14:44 |
| Gathaja | sb-config killall ? | 14:44 |
| keesj | ps insode sbox that is | 14:45 |
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| cosmo | ps inside sbox displays outside processes also | 14:48 |
| matmo | gcorriga: here's the results of my Squeak Lightning Detector: http://www.doconnel.force9.co.uk/squeak/lightning/ | 14:48 |
| cosmo | logging out of sbox, sb_ctl restart, logging in doesn't help either | 14:48 |
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| cosmo | colleague told that you need to reboot the computer to change target.. but there must be a way to do it | 14:49 |
| matmo | sb-menu has that option | 14:49 |
| cosmo | 0.9.8 doesn't have sb-menu | 14:50 |
| matmo | ok | 14:50 |
| cosmo | it sucks in many other ways also, but i have to use it | 14:50 |
| keesj | ok try killing qemu session then :p | 14:51 |
| cosmo | i don't think i have one | 14:52 |
| keesj | cosmo: I only had this problem when I started the maemo desktop from the arm target. | 14:53 |
| cosmo | i have setup an initial arm target, and not even selected it | 14:53 |
| cosmo | i've exited sb, stopped it, and there are no sbox-related processes running | 14:55 |
| cosmo | but still after starting sb & logging in it comlains about 2 sb sessions | 14:56 |
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| keesj | you where able to restart it? | 14:56 |
| cosmo | yep, sbox_ctl stop and start works | 14:57 |
| matmo | locks? | 14:57 |
| keesj | with no errors about open files / filesystem etc? | 14:57 |
| kulve | cosmo: you need to know or guess the processes started inside sb and kill them | 14:57 |
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| kulve | cosmo: e.g. dbus or gconf daemons with great pids etc.. | 14:58 |
| kulve | cosmo: or qemu-prosesses if you use arm target | 14:58 |
| cosmo | can't find any | 15:00 |
| keesj | it must be a new kind of problem . anything special about your setup? nfs etc? | 15:01 |
| cosmo | nope, plain feisty with recently installed sbox | 15:01 |
| cosmo | and sbox is 0.9.8, not the latest 1.0.7 | 15:02 |
| keesj | btw I guess that the support of the maemo sdk that came with the 0.9.8 sbox relase is "past" it's period where you are allowed to use it | 15:02 |
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| cosmo | i'm using a custom sdk for a commercial project which should work only on 0.9.8 | 15:03 |
| eichi | hello, is there a way to use my maemo device for remote control my desktop pc? | 15:03 |
| cosmo | of course i'd prefer working with latest version | 15:03 |
| eichi | desktop pc with linux | 15:04 |
| cosmo | but thanks for your help, looks like i'll just need to reboot this pc | 15:04 |
| cosmo | eichi: vnc | 15:04 |
| eichi | cosmo: I dont want so see the screen. more like a remote control for dvd, video, musik etc. | 15:05 |
| eichi | or is it easier to use vlc for that too? | 15:06 |
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| tso | im guessing people are allready experimenting with mozilla on the 770. | 15:26 |
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| guardian | anyone aware of this: my n800 does not register itself in the dhcp/dns since the last os update | 15:31 |
| guardian | prior to the last update, the bluetooth name was used to register the hostname | 15:31 |
| guardian | now it's just empty | 15:31 |
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| tso | interesting. if i mess with the "tabbed" browsing of mozilla, it fails to put anything in inputboxes... | 15:35 |
| konttori_ | Have you managed to get tabbed browsing working on the microb? | 15:36 |
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| tso | well they show up when i turn then on in the "hidden" menu entry yes | 15:36 |
| sully | Did you guys have missing dependencies for MicroB on the 770? | 15:37 |
| tso | and when a new window is opened by a page, its put into a tab instead | 15:37 |
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| sully | libmediaplayer0 amongst others can't be found for me | 15:37 |
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| tso | i think someone put a link up on internettablettalk | 15:37 |
| tso | tabs work konttori_ | 15:39 |
| tso | but the ui has issues with closing a window/tab. it closes them all. could be that when closing one, it crashes tho... | 15:40 |
| tso | all in all, the browser part of the 770 seems to be a buggy hell... | 15:41 |
| konttori_ | tso: sounds interesting. So, is there an instruction on how to test the tabbed browsing (ie. how to turn on the 'hidden item') | 15:42 |
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| tso | get mozilla installed, and a new entry under the "home" menu of the browser should show up, called hidden | 15:43 |
| tso | in there is a entry called "change view". two of those tab & box, act like tabbed browsing | 15:44 |
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| tso | err, maybe not fully correct, the box view splits the display into boxes... | 15:45 |
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| tso | woa, the box view was remembered by the browser when it "died" when i tried to close one of the boxes, and both boxes where present still | 15:46 |
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| tso | ok, this is just fun. died again. still remembered the boxes. but this time the split changed from horizontal to vertical. wtf?! | 15:47 |
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| tso | hmm, i cant manage to drag the split around... | 15:48 |
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| cosmo | eichi: there is mpd (music player daemon) client available.. maybe it's more what you search | 15:48 |
| konttori_ | tso: are you talking about the 770 version only? I don't see any home item in n800 version | 15:49 |
| tso | title/home, dont recall what that menu is called... | 15:49 |
| konttori_ | there are: windows, web page, edit, view, navigation, tools and close at the main level menu | 15:50 |
| eichi | cosmo: this sounds like an extra player, isn't it? I want to control xine/mplayer for example | 15:50 |
| tso | konttori_: strange, there should be a hidden under close, at least that what i see here on my 770 | 15:51 |
| konttori_ | on n800 (latest microb from extras) there is only close all windows and close window under the close menu | 15:52 |
| konttori_ | oh, you meant as a main level menu item | 15:52 |
| tso | bingo | 15:52 |
| konttori_ | well, there isn't such. | 15:52 |
| tso | weird | 15:52 |
| konttori_ | apparently 770 build is different from the n800 build | 15:52 |
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| konttori_ | anyway, would have been interesting to test the tabs | 15:54 |
| cosmo | eichi: yep.. i doubt there is software available to do that | 15:54 |
| dev | cosmo: there is | 15:55 |
| tso | found some stuff on internettablettalk that talk about editing /home/user/.browser | 15:56 |
| tso | in there is a option "hidden", most likely set to false, setting it to hidden=true should probably get the entry to show up | 15:56 |
| dev | cosmo: the UPnP Controlling part is meant for that | 15:57 |
| matmo | eichi: vlc has a web interface, don't know about others. Also check out upnp servers/clients | 15:57 |
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| cosmo | dev: ok.. nice | 15:57 |
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| kikka | <kikka> Can I chose different system themes on maemo? And Wallpapers? | 16:04 |
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| tso | sure you can | 16:05 |
| tso | hit the "home" menu when looking at the "desktop" | 16:05 |
| tso | under tools you should find what your looking for | 16:06 |
| X-Fade_ | Hehe, get me 2 of these please: http://tweakers.net/ext/i/1187951483.gif | 16:08 |
| X-Fade_ | 64GB in your N800, not bad :) | 16:08 |
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| tso | heh, more then what you can get in most SSD drives for laptops... | 16:11 |
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| kikka | Mhm, well, soon i'll buy a n770 for 170€- | 16:18 |
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| pupnik | microb running great so far - thanks so much timeless etc | 16:28 |
| cosmo | after rebooting: "You have 1 other Scratchbox session running! | 16:31 |
| cosmo | " | 16:31 |
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| cosmo | looks like there is something really wrong with my system | 16:31 |
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| pupnik | hi unique311 | 16:43 |
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| Tak | http://tinyurl.com/ys465a <= 32G SDHC announced | 16:53 |
| X-Fade_ | Tak: You're late ;) | 16:55 |
| gla55_ | n800 and couple of those... mm. | 16:55 |
| Tak | aww | 16:59 |
| * Tak checks | 17:00 | |
| Tak | damn! I'm also a dollar short! | 17:00 |
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| pupnik | that would be like 60+ PSX games :P | 17:01 |
| Tak | heh | 17:02 |
| timeless | !seen qgil | 17:03 |
| Tak | yeah; who's going to write the ps1 emulator from scratch in arm asm + dsp tasks? ;-) | 17:03 |
| timeless | _monkey seen qgil | 17:03 |
| pupnik | Tak, it's coming | 17:03 |
| _Monkey | qgil was last seen on #maemo 11 hours, 17 minutes and 31 seconds ago, saying: [Fri Aug 24 03:45:47 2007] | 17:03 |
| erstazi | I got to pee | 17:03 |
| pupnik | no idea about dsp though | 17:03 |
| erstazi | and I hate it!! | 17:03 |
| pupnik | with kulve and lardman's research, we might be able to put an audio plugin on dsp though | 17:04 |
| Tak | plus it would require either hardware 3d support or extreme graphical cleverness | 17:04 |
| Tak | pupnik: when I had time to work on fceu, my next task was going to be to move the audio engine to a dsp task | 17:04 |
| X-Fade_ | timeless: You might want to fix the links in your last blog post to not be relative.. | 17:04 |
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| X-Fade_ | timeless: They are pretty broken on planet.. | 17:05 |
| pupnik | well i get 1.2 fps in Oddworld, and psx4all is about 10+x faster on gp2x than pcsx | 17:05 |
| pupnik | Tak: they made a dynamic r3000->ARM recompiler for psx4all | 17:05 |
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| timeless | x-fade: can't i blame planet? | 17:05 |
| timeless | x-fade: i'm still trying to figure out if i should file a bug about the negative margin thing | 17:06 |
| timeless | that's fairly annoying | 17:06 |
| timeless | i think i will | 17:06 |
| X-Fade_ | timeless: I think there already is a bug for that. | 17:07 |
| timeless | x-fade: oh? | 17:08 |
| timeless | got a number? | 17:08 |
| X-Fade_ | I think I saw a bug assigned to me for that :) | 17:08 |
| timeless | heh | 17:08 |
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| X-Fade_ | timeless: 1844 | 17:09 |
| timeless | x-fade: the problem w/ doing that is that i have to do staging | 17:12 |
| timeless | and unless i hack my computer to pretend that another computer is browser.garage, ... | 17:13 |
| Tak | pupnik: I don't get excited about stuff for the gp2x - their environment is radically different from ours, and I haven't yet seen a piece of code come from their world to ours | 17:14 |
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| pupnik | yes it necessitates real work to do a gp2x->nokia port | 17:15 |
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| Tak | s/real/a prohibitive amount of/ | 17:20 |
| X-Fade_ | timeless: I would consider an application not doing what I want as buggy ;) | 17:23 |
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| pupnik | you are provoking me and that's good Tak :) | 17:23 |
| timeless | personally i feel it's a planet's job to deal w/ relative links | 17:23 |
| timeless | it's the ua | 17:23 |
| Tak | heh | 17:24 |
| Tak | if it weren't prohibitive, one piece of software would have been ported in the years since the 770 release | 17:24 |
| pupnik | i think we just don't have many devs interested in this stuff | 17:25 |
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| timeless | hrm | 17:26 |
| Blacksitox | re | 17:26 |
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| timeless | oh, bah | 17:28 |
| timeless | that sucks | 17:28 |
| pupnik | Tak: consider the other way 'round - all those apps had to be ported to that 'radically different' environment in the first place | 17:28 |
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| Tak | heh, a lot of them are ports of windows apps | 17:29 |
| erstazi | Tak: I am taking my stab at porting packages but its limited time I can do that in a day | 17:29 |
| Tak | erstazi: yeah, I hear that | 17:30 |
| erstazi | like on the wiki, I noticed a lot of articles that were orphaned for the OS2006/770... and I thought, "man if I knew those where there, my life would have been a lot easier" | 17:30 |
| erstazi | I never did get to linking them | 17:30 |
| * timeless grumbles | 17:32 | |
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| timeless | ok | 17:33 |
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| timeless | x-fade: alright, fixed on my side | 17:35 |
| timeless | x-fade: note that it's a bug in planet.maemo | 17:35 |
| timeless | because planet.mozilla.org showed them w/o me having to make these changes | 17:35 |
| Emh5945 | I cant figure out how to compile gnash for my 770 | 17:35 |
| timeless | in fact, planet.mozilla.org even deals w/ my relative paths by correcting them to full absolute urls :) | 17:36 |
| erstazi | Emh5945: do you have the source code? | 17:37 |
| erstazi | Emh5945: do you have Linux on a PC or Virtual PC? | 17:37 |
| erstazi | Emh5945: do you have scratchbox? | 17:38 |
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| Emh5945 | I have ubuntu linux running with virtual box on a mac and i have the maemo development environment setup with scratch box | 17:39 |
| erstazi | Emh5945: ok then you are set, are you getting errors? | 17:41 |
| erstazi | Emh5945: do you have OS2006 or OS2007HE? | 17:41 |
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| Emh5945 | There were three dependencies i needed and i cant get them to work, i'm really new at this | 17:42 |
| Emh5945 | Os2006 | 17:42 |
| _Monkey | rumour has it Os2006 is the second ABI (armel) for the Nokia 770 | 17:42 |
| pupnik | Emh5945: well it's progress - what dependencies? | 17:43 |
| Emh5945 | Ming, mtasc which requires ocaml, and swfmill | 17:44 |
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| Emh5945 | Mtasc also requires zlib | 17:47 |
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| sparrw | Lynoure: sorry, missed your question last night. ill give it a test when i get home. so far all my art friends say its really responsive, but its not a great 'art' tablet because its only sensitive to pressure, not rotation or tile | 17:50 |
| sparrw | using it for drawing artsy stuff, i havent seen any problem that would be visible in your proposed test | 17:51 |
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| sparrw | i did a few ruler-assisted straight lines here at the office, as a gimmick for our drafting guys, and they came out within 1 pixel of perfect | 17:51 |
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| pupnik | sparrw: using sketch program? | 17:58 |
| sparrw | im not familiar with 'sketch'... i was using gimp and krita and inkscape | 17:58 |
| pupnik | on the tablet? | 17:58 |
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| sparrw | yes | 18:00 |
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| sparrw | on my motion m1400, not the 770 | 18:00 |
| sparrw | want to get it nice and demoable so i can sell it... whoever buys it will probably put windows tablet on it anyways | 18:01 |
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| pupnik | nice looking device | 18:15 |
| pupnik | looks like it has a bad wifi radio | 18:15 |
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| konttori | tso: in n800 version there is no such option as hidden. | 18:32 |
| konttori | ups. sorry. my bad | 18:33 |
| konttori | found it. it was the first one | 18:33 |
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| konttori | seems to work. now I can switch between microb and opera, but there is no menu item hidden, so i cannot switch to tabbed view | 18:35 |
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| tso | no options for view where you can switch browser engine? | 18:42 |
| pupnik | i want tabs for microb | 18:44 |
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| kupesoft | How do I get the cx3110x chip in to monitor mode without crashing my n800? | 18:47 |
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| pupnik | kupo! | 18:48 |
| * Tak hands pupnik a nut | 18:49 | |
| sparrw | pupnik: so far its a little better than the 770 on wifi reception... which isnt very good for a device with room for a much larger antenna | 18:50 |
| * timely frowns | 18:52 | |
| timely | the wiki cleanup is done, right? | 18:53 |
| *** timely changes topic to "maemo is the application development platform for the Nokia Internet Tablets | Good questions deserve better answers | irc logs at http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/ | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/os2007on770/ | http://maemo.org/news/ login and fav! | bugs.maemo.org will be reorganized this weekend" | 18:54 | |
| timely | have a good weekend all. i'll be moving most bugs in about 28-36hours | 18:54 |
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| pupnik | microb has been solid so far - i am afraid to try a plugin now :) | 19:01 |
| tso | using it on a 770 pupnik? mine seems to die ever so often | 19:02 |
| pupnik | it2006se yes | 19:02 |
| pupnik | using it on the most bloated site i know right now (digg) | 19:02 |
| tso | hmm | 19:02 |
| yllus | okay, I'm going to have to try installing it again. | 19:03 |
| Sho_ | I'm still using the Opera engine, myself ... it's just snappier | 19:03 |
| tso | whats your virtual memory setting? | 19:03 |
| pupnik | no vm - yes opera was faster for me too | 19:03 |
| pupnik | ok digg crashed it | 19:03 |
| yllus | did you get Flash support up? | 19:03 |
| pupnik | didn't try flash | 19:03 |
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| pupnik | digg brings my p3 950mhz with 384MB RAM to its knees | 19:04 |
| tso | had any issues with it not autoconnecting to wlan? | 19:04 |
| pupnik | i manually connect | 19:04 |
| tso | ah | 19:05 |
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| tso | heh, opera is able to handle digg nicely | 19:06 |
| yllus | After boot from MMC and the kernel hack for a speed up, I'm pretty happy with browser performance. | 19:11 |
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| tso | hmm, accessing my wlan routers webpage using mozilla crash the browser, but works fine in opera... | 19:13 |
| tso | ah, most likely a issue with the password dialog | 19:15 |
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| sevenless | Looking for an app which can streams video from a server to an N800... | 21:37 |
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| Blacksitox | brb | 21:44 |
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| dhdfoo | hey, is there a programmable interface to the window manager in maemo? | 22:17 |
| dhdfoo | i.e. if I want to tell it to switch windows, go to the home screen, etc | 22:18 |
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| trevarth1n | Is Tony Maro here? | 23:31 |
| melmoth | not that i m aware of. | 23:31 |
| melmoth | but tony, if you are here, please let us know :) | 23:32 |
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| trevarth1n | nah, maybe that was the mailing list. ugh. nm. | 23:40 |
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| sbz | hi, i have a problem on install of xterm-osso, i use ubuntu feisty on my laptop => http://rafb.net/p/z0Y75U34.html anyone have an idea ? | 23:52 |
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