| tso | yep | 00:00 |
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| amr | ive never seen the default mail client actually connect to my mail server | 00:01 |
| amr | either of them, is that normal? | 00:01 |
| tso | hmm, u see a directory setting, is that needed to be set? | 00:01 |
| ffoegboy | If I purchase a N800 in Germany can I change the operating system to English? | 00:01 |
| pupnik | dunno, i use webmail for simplicity | 00:01 |
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| pupnik | ffoegboy: tools->control panel->language and region (or the equivalent in german) | 00:02 |
| tso | interestingly it seems to be fully connected, it just fails at getting the content of the dir | 00:02 |
| tso | found the problem. kill active mode and ascii transfer :P | 00:04 |
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| ffoegboy | pupnik, Thanks, So if I do that all comands will be in English. I purchased some software in Germany last year and when changed to english all the base commands were still in german and I cant read Geerman? | 00:04 |
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| pupnik | the rest of the tablet os is displaying in english, but only that one piece of software is still in german? | 00:05 |
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| ffoegboy | pupnik, No that was not for a N800, it was adobe illustrator for my laptop but I will be in Germany in a few weeks and the N800 is not going to be released in Australia at least for a while | 00:06 |
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| pupnik | Congrats on the decision to get a N800 mate! :) I don't understand the question then. | 00:07 |
| pupnik | I got my n770 in germany and all the language stuff is in english (through settings) | 00:08 |
| amr | you can change it yes | 00:08 |
| ffoegboy | pupnik, If I but a German n800 will I be able to use it as I cant read German? | 00:08 |
| ffoegboy | pupnik, should read if I buy | 00:08 |
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| pupnik | yeah you can change the language to english and all stuff should appear as english | 00:09 |
| ffoegboy | pupnik, thanks I will order one, they look great!! do you know what the best GPS reciever to get would be? | 00:10 |
| pupnik | don't know. check compatibility first | 00:11 |
| tso | to bad the internal pdf-reader cant flip pages to vertical... | 00:11 |
| pupnik | there is also poppler-tools for pdftohtml | 00:11 |
| tso | hmm? | 00:12 |
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| ffoegboy | pupnik, OK thanks anyway I cant wait to get one and start playing :-) | 00:12 |
| johdeval | Whats the biggest difference between a 770 and 800? | 00:14 |
| tso | bigger cpu and more ram? | 00:14 |
| tso | and the design ;) | 00:14 |
| milhouse | pro: better screen (on n800); con: no hard cover on n800 | 00:14 |
| milhouse | two sd slots on n800 | 00:15 |
| milhouse | floating point unit on n800 (better performance). n800 has pretty bad video bandwidth though, 770 is possibly better | 00:15 |
| johdeval | hmm | 00:16 |
| ||cw | I though video on the n800 was better | 00:16 |
| johdeval | I like my 770 I am looking at the 800 and the design is a little funny but without holding it kinda hard to tell | 00:16 |
| ||cw | 800 has SDHC as well, 2 of them | 00:16 |
| milhouse | ||cw - the n800 has more cpu horsepower, but the video bandwidth has been compromised due to the hardware design | 00:17 |
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| milhouse | the net result being the n800 will never perform as well as it "should" have done in theory | 00:17 |
| johdeval | So if you had a choice which one? | 00:18 |
| milhouse | every time I hold a 770 these days it reminds me of why the n800 is so wrong | 00:18 |
| johdeval | Cost not being a factor feature for feature. | 00:18 |
| milhouse | with luck nokia will be right on the money with the "n900" | 00:18 |
| tso | so thats why youtube "failed" on the n800? | 00:18 |
| johdeval | So then you are saying I made the right choice with the 770 | 00:18 |
| milhouse | tso - has it failed? | 00:18 |
| tso | well, it depends on who you ask... | 00:19 |
| milhouse | johdeval - for the current price i think it's hard to argue against buying the 770 | 00:19 |
| tso | the last update may have helped ;) | 00:19 |
| johdeval | milhouse: I agree but I wanted to take price out of the equation. | 00:19 |
| milhouse | i doubt youtube is sucky due to bandwidth issues | 00:19 |
| milhouse | mplayer would benefit from better video bandwidth though | 00:20 |
| tso | it would be interesting if opera managed to convince w3c to go with ogg as a native media format for the web :) | 00:20 |
| johdeval | Do any of you guys use tversity with the 770? I have it working and it seems to work ok on tv shows but feature length moves it just craps out on. | 00:20 |
| pupnik | when i dpkg-buildpackage it always builds with default options... how do i pass options to the configure script? | 00:20 |
| milhouse | johdeval - in that case, the n800 from a hardware point of view is a substantial improvement over the 770. unfortunately the design is a step backwards (i prefer the 770 and the hard case) and the video bandwidth issue is a shame. maybe next time... | 00:21 |
| milhouse | johdeval - i've used tversity with the 770 but i never watched an entire film | 00:21 |
| milhouse | er... movie. | 00:21 |
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| johdeval | Did you try a movie? | 00:23 |
| milhouse | i did... they seemed to play ok for the few minutes i watched them | 00:25 |
| amr | how do i press enter in xterm | 00:25 |
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| tso | there is a small one on the virtual keyboard... | 00:25 |
| milhouse | watching a film on a 770/n800 doesn't appeal to me (as i have a big screen in the lounge for that kind of thing) | 00:25 |
| amr | where abouts | 00:25 |
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| milhouse | right hand side | 00:26 |
| johdeval | I have tversity setup to share my media while I am on the road. | 00:26 |
| milhouse | below the backspace | 00:26 |
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| milhouse | second down from the top on the right is enter. top is backspace. | 00:26 |
| amr | oh shit | 00:26 |
| amr | my bad, i mean escape | 00:26 |
| amr | sorry | 00:26 |
| milhouse | escape is the hard button below the d-pad | 00:27 |
| milhouse | escape/menu/home | 00:27 |
| amr | ahhh | 00:27 |
| amr | cheers | 00:27 |
| milhouse | johdeval - ah right, yes that would be more useful... :) | 00:27 |
| johdeval | I am hoping to use my 770 for that. I have to say I am impressed with the battery life. | 00:28 |
| johdeval | I has lasted all day | 00:28 |
| johdeval | also cant get porn while on the road. I need my girls gone wild fix. LOL | 00:29 |
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| senuxis | hello | 00:43 |
| _Monkey | hello, senuxis | 00:43 |
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| senuxis | thank god! | 00:44 |
| senuxis | some body finally replied | 00:44 |
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| senuxis | some of the channels in here are like ghost channels | 00:44 |
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| senuxis | Monkey, do you know of poky linux? | 00:45 |
| senuxis | @_Monkey: do you know of poky linux? | 00:46 |
| pupnik | http://www.google.com/search?q=%22poky+linux | 00:47 |
| johdeval | http://pokylinux.org/ | 00:47 |
| pupnik | interesting | 00:48 |
| senuxis | has any one installed it on the n800? | 00:48 |
| johdeval | Nay is it possible? | 00:48 |
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| senuxis | apparently so; they've got images | 00:48 |
| senuxis | on their website | 00:48 |
| senuxis | http://pokylinux.org/ | 00:49 |
| johdeval | I see that. | 00:49 |
| senuxis | but it's experimental | 00:49 |
| johdeval | I wonder if it would work on the 770 as well. | 00:49 |
| senuxis | so, i was wondering if any one's done it | 00:49 |
| pupnik | i think the IT xomap looks slimmer than their full-blown (bloat) X11, not sure tho | 00:50 |
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| senuxis | sato's suppose to be quite lightt | 00:51 |
| johdeval | senuxis: The problem is the software would be optimized for the n800 then. What yoube able to install? | 00:51 |
| johdeval | would not | 00:51 |
| senuxis | it should be compatible with the openembedded stuff | 00:52 |
| senuxis | johdeval: the solution should be simple as they're mostly open source | 00:53 |
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| johdeval | all right guys have a good weekend this joes calling it quits | 01:01 |
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| amr | whats the recommended media player on hre | 01:03 |
| amr | here* | 01:03 |
| senuxis | canola | 01:04 |
| _Monkey | i think canola is just even more worthless with shared forlders than the mplayer frontend | 01:04 |
| k-s[WORK] | ehehehe | 01:04 |
| amr | shit | 01:07 |
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| amr | how do i get rid of the presence thing | 01:07 |
| amr | nm | 01:08 |
| senuxis | is any one here willing to test out poky linux on the n800? | 01:09 |
| k-s[WORK] | senuxis: someone here at indt tested it yesterday | 01:15 |
| k-s[WORK] | senuxis: why? | 01:15 |
| senuxis | ok. does it work well? | 01:15 |
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| k-s[WORK] | senuxis: seems so | 01:16 |
| senuxis | did it brick any thing? | 01:16 |
| k-s[WORK] | senuxis: no | 01:16 |
| senuxis | can you post instructions some where? | 01:16 |
| k-s[WORK] | senuxis: it don't feel that fine usability-wise, but it's a bit better than regular hildon stuff | 01:16 |
| k-s[WORK] | senuxis: I didn't followed the procedure, some other guy (not present here ATM) did | 01:17 |
| senuxis | damn | 01:17 |
| k-s[WORK] | senuxis: seems that these instructions are available at their website | 01:17 |
| k-s[WORK] | have you checked it? | 01:17 |
| senuxis | i've checked it | 01:17 |
| senuxis | i see no instructions | 01:17 |
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| senuxis | what's the link? | 01:18 |
| _Monkey | the link is at http://1024k.de/bookmarklets/video-bookmarklets.html | 01:18 |
| strid | hey guys | 01:19 |
| strid | any advice on an UPnP AV media server to stream to MediaStreamer on a 770? | 01:20 |
| strid | must be windows based | 01:20 |
| strid | if it comes as a foobar plugin, that's perfect | 01:20 |
| k-s[WORK] | strid: simplemedia, twonky and tversity are good | 01:21 |
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| strid | could you direct me to simplemedia's website? | 01:23 |
| k-s[WORK] | strid: sorry, no link on my part | 01:23 |
| strid | I can't find it on google | 01:24 |
| strid | there are plenty of PR firms and polish blogs | 01:24 |
| strid | but no streaming servers | 01:25 |
| strid | uh | 01:27 |
| strid | k-s[WORK]: is simplemedia part of simplecenter? | 01:27 |
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| k-s[WORK] | strid: dunno, just heard of it | 01:32 |
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| strid | ho..ly.. shit | 01:43 |
| strid | windows media player 11 | 01:43 |
| strid | it's actually working flawlessly | 01:43 |
| erstazi_n770 | heh | 01:43 |
| strid | and being completely awesome | 01:43 |
| strid | there must be black magic involved | 01:43 |
| strid | I had to wave my hand between my laptop and my 770 just to make sure there weren't any hidden strings or cables | 01:44 |
| pupnik | using what | 01:44 |
| strid | what | 01:44 |
| pupnik | mplayer? | 01:44 |
| strid | wmp11 streaming to mediastreamer on 770 | 01:45 |
| erstazi_n770 | i still think wmp11 is bloated | 01:45 |
| strid | hooked up to my stereo | 01:45 |
| strid | well no shit it's bloated, but it's doing the job in a completely awesome fashion | 01:45 |
| erstazi_n770 | slimserver is nice | 01:45 |
| pupnik | what is the program on the 770 called, "mediastreamer"/ | 01:45 |
| strid | yes | 01:45 |
| pupnik | ok thanks | 01:45 |
| erstazi_n770 | mediastreamer is not the default audio app | 01:46 |
| strid | wow | 01:46 |
| strid | I don't even have to be running wmp11 | 01:47 |
| strid | I just accidentally closed it and it's still working | 01:47 |
| strid | 8D | 01:47 |
| strid | black magic | 01:47 |
| erstazi_n770 | i need to switch the symlinks in the menu | 01:48 |
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| pupnik | "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke | 01:49 |
| amr | hm i cant install samba for some reason | 01:50 |
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| senuxis | will maemo ever support java? | 01:51 |
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| strid | seriously | 01:54 |
| strid | this is what the future is all about | 01:54 |
| strid | fuck hovercars | 01:54 |
| strid | I can die happily having seen the apex of mankind's technological capacity | 01:54 |
| strid | I need to get high and think this over | 01:55 |
| strid | and then write a letter of appreciation to whoever posted the first wifi RFC | 01:55 |
| amr | word | 01:55 |
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| pupnik | perhaps a stupid question: why not just mount a share on the pc and play vids using mplayer? | 01:57 |
| strid | I'm not playing videos, I'm playing music 8D | 01:59 |
| strid | also, I used wmp11's library sharing | 01:59 |
| strid | which was a lot smoother than I expected | 01:59 |
| pupnik | interesting thanks | 02:00 |
| strid | I thought I'd have to install samba and manually add lan mapped mp3s in a media player | 02:00 |
| strid | but it was basically just three clicks on each device and a one way ticket to awesometowne | 02:00 |
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| pupnik | very nice! | 02:01 |
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| strid | now I need some sort of wifi remote control | 02:01 |
| strid | so I can skip the current track if it sucks | 02:01 |
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| pupnik | buy another 770? :P | 02:02 |
| strid | I probably should | 02:03 |
| erstazi_n770 | strid, with slimserver you can | 02:03 |
| strid | how? | 02:03 |
| erstazi_n770 | i use my 770 like a streamer and remote | 02:04 |
| erstazi_n770 | strid, google nokia 770 slimserver | 02:04 |
| strid | well the thing is, my 770 is physically hooked up to my stereo while playing music over wifi from my laptop, which I'm using out of reach of the 770 | 02:05 |
| strid | (not streaming) | 02:05 |
| erstazi_n770 | slimserver goes on a pc | 02:05 |
| erstazi_n770 | and you can change your music | 02:06 |
| strid | my laptop has a comparable cpu to the 770, I'd rather have the nokia handle the decoding and playback while demanding only bandwidth from the laptop | 02:06 |
| strid | oh wait, I could install that httpd on the 770 | 02:06 |
| strid | and uh | 02:06 |
| strid | cook up some python script | 02:07 |
| erstazi_n770 | actually, your nokia would not broadcast | 02:07 |
| strid | link it in a php | 02:07 |
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| strid | huh? | 02:07 |
| erstazi_n770 | only receive the stream | 02:07 |
| strid | yeah, I said I wanted the nokia to do the playback, not recieve a stream generated by the laptop | 02:08 |
| amr | is there a way i can pair my 770 with my macbook using bluetooth | 02:08 |
| erstazi_n770 | and you go to the ip address of the pc that has slimserver on it | 02:08 |
| amr | someone on itt managed it | 02:08 |
| erstazi_n770 | amr, saw it on the wiki at maemo.org | 02:09 |
| amr | ah cool thanks | 02:09 |
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| erstazi_n770 | np (: | 02:11 |
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| suma | hi i have nokia 770 and want to boot from mmc card | 02:16 |
| suma | got problem in install the tar command | 02:16 |
| suma | can someone please help me regarding this ? | 02:16 |
| suma | when i use the existing tar command then it cannot copy more than 100 characters of file length | 02:17 |
| suma | apt-get -d install tar | 02:19 |
| suma | thiscommand is the one not working | 02:19 |
| suma | some one please help me | 02:19 |
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| lukem | erm, newbie here... I have a question... | 02:21 |
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| lukem | According to the memory applet in control panel, I have 18mb of images on my device. | 02:22 |
| suma | lukem, what is your problem ? | 02:22 |
| lukem | I cannot for the life of me, locate them. | 02:22 |
| lukem | they are not under /home/user/MyDocs/.images | 02:22 |
| suma | you have xterm installaed ? | 02:22 |
| lukem | sure do | 02:22 |
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| lukem | also SSH | 02:22 |
| suma | give a grep to find it | 02:23 |
| suma | find . | grep images | 02:23 |
| suma | will get you the images directory | 02:23 |
| lukem | hmmm... yep, it shows the only file under /images | 02:23 |
| lukem | it also shows some under osso_rss_feed_reader too | 02:24 |
| lukem | that must be them. | 02:24 |
| lukem | nope, that folder is empty | 02:25 |
| lukem | huh... | 02:25 |
| suma | did you check with ls -all | 02:25 |
| suma | to also get the hidden files | 02:26 |
| lukem | yep | 02:26 |
| lukem | I found'em | 02:26 |
| lukem | 8) | 02:26 |
| suma | great | 02:26 |
| suma | do you mmc to boot your nokia 770 ? | 02:26 |
| lukem | maemo mapper is storing cached images in internal memory instead of on the MMC | 02:26 |
| lukem | not yet, 1gb card is inbound. ETA Wednesday | 02:26 |
| lukem | I might also try 2007HE then | 02:27 |
| suma | does that has skype too ? | 02:27 |
| lukem | I'm looking forward to the additional room with a bigger MMC | 02:27 |
| lukem | not sure, haven't really looked into it. | 02:27 |
| suma | ii'm working 2GB one | 02:27 |
| lukem | been spending all my tiem learning things to do with 2006... | 02:27 |
| suma | yes, 2006 is stable, so good to spend on that | 02:28 |
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| lukem | cool, moving all the cached maps to the MMC, now I'll have more room for new programs... 8) | 02:35 |
| lukem | next task is installing samba so I can share out the MMC card as a "wireless usb key"... | 02:35 |
| lukem | Thanks for your help Suma | 02:36 |
| suma | no problem lukem | 02:37 |
| lukem | anyone in here successfully use a T-Mobile MDA as a BT DUN device? that's the only other issue I'm stumped on at the moment. 8) | 02:40 |
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| pupnik | why does maemo-launcher show 8 processes each taking up 10-16% of memory? | 02:50 |
| pupnik | note to self - killall maemo-launcher is not the answer | 02:51 |
| maddler | pupnik: hehehehe... I *know*! ;) | 02:51 |
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| pupnik | rebooting and checking memory again | 02:52 |
| pupnik | Mem: 52604K used, 9620K free, 0K shrd, 1728K buff, 24468K cached | 02:53 |
| pupnik | that's not a lot of free RAM for applications | 02:53 |
| pupnik | at least links2 webbrowser is thrifty - after startup i have 4.1% used by links2 and | 02:55 |
| pupnik | Mem: 57428K used, 4796K free, 0K shrd, 1808K buff, 27024K cached | 02:55 |
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| suma | pupnik: i want to install tar on my nokia 770, can you please help ? | 02:59 |
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| pupnik | hi suma | 03:20 |
| pupnik | Filename: pool/maemo2.2/free/t/tar/tar_1.14-2.1osso_armel.deb | 03:22 |
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| robtaylor | zeenix: i'll host your git repo, if you want! | 03:45 |
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| pupnik | what speeds do you guys get scp-ing over to your 770? | 04:08 |
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| pupnik | with scp -c blowfish bigfile.zip i get about 300kB/s on average | 04:09 |
| jacques | openssh or dropbear? | 04:12 |
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| pupnik | dropbear | 04:16 |
| _Monkey | i guess dropbear is a small install | 04:16 |
| pupnik | and regluar kernel | 04:16 |
| pupnik | to mmc | 04:18 |
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| yabbas | Bizarre, I used to be able to add irc chat as a 'buddy' in pidgin. Now it crashes... | 04:46 |
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| suma | someone please let me know where can i get ipkg package of asterisk to run on nokia 770 ? | 05:21 |
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| suma | pupnik: someone please let me know where can i get ipkg package of asterisk to run on nokia 770 ? | 05:32 |
| suma | the previous one which you helped me worked | 05:32 |
| pupnik | i think ipkg is for zaurus | 05:33 |
| suma | pupnik: i want to install asterisk in nokia 770, what is the best way i can do it ? | 05:34 |
| pupnik | i don't know | 05:35 |
| pupnik | you need soemthing compiled for nokia 770 though | 05:35 |
| suma | there are not compiled binaries availabe ? | 05:35 |
| suma | yes | 05:35 |
| pupnik | i think people are using this 'gizmo' or something to talk on 770 | 05:36 |
| pupnik | search ITT forums for 'voip' | 05:36 |
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| suma | i'm also using gizmo, but SIP doesn't work good in NATed environment | 05:37 |
| suma | will check on the ITT forums | 05:37 |
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| rhsanborn | How difficult do you guys think it woul be to put something together that could automagically chrink a batch of images (from an mmc card, digital camera) with relatively little effort? | 05:50 |
| rhsanborn | I'll be in Africa with the Peace Corps, I want the high qual images on my camera, but I would like to be able to easily shrink them to upload them to the internet | 05:50 |
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| setite | ok | 05:57 |
| setite | n800 is the coolest shit ever | 05:57 |
| rhsanborn | :P | 05:57 |
| setite | now i just gotta get it to do something | 05:57 |
| setite | trying to tether it to my ppc | 05:57 |
| setite | no joy so far | 05:57 |
| setite | any ideas | 05:58 |
| setite | its an htc apache | 05:58 |
| tchan | rhsanborn: If you find a maemo compiled version of ImageMagick, then you can just use the "convert" binary to resize your photos. | 05:58 |
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| tchan | like "convert -resize 640x480 input.jpg output.jpg" | 06:00 |
| rhsanborn | tchan: haven't found one yet | 06:00 |
| rhsanborn | tchan: trying to find out how hard it would be to compile for the 800 | 06:00 |
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| rhsanborn | that would be gold, I just don't have the dev experience | 06:01 |
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| setite | anyone tethered a ppc to n770 or n800 over bluetooth | 06:12 |
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| setite | oh man if i cant tether this thing imma return it | 06:33 |
| setite | wifi is no use to me | 06:33 |
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| setite | padre pio? | 06:35 |
| Pio | los pollitos dicen pio pio pio | 06:35 |
| javamaniac | cuando tienen hambre, cuando tienen frio | 06:35 |
| Pio | actually i got if from the butthole surfers album pioughd.. had that nick for a while, in the days before nick completion, everyone just called me pio for short | 06:35 |
| Pio | nice! | 06:35 |
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| setite | anyoen know why i cant browse my n800 on windows | 06:55 |
| setite | and no snarky anti-MS comments | 06:55 |
| setite | i hook it up to usb.. it mounts the device but state sthat it needs to be formatted | 06:55 |
| setite | but it wont format it | 06:55 |
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| NeoStrider_I1 | hey fellows | 07:18 |
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| pupnik | because something is broken | 10:06 |
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| suma | pupnik: how can i solve the apt-get issue ? | 11:00 |
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| suma | one moment let me paste it to the pastebin | 11:00 |
| suma | http://pastebin.ca/645202 | 11:02 |
| pupnik | that's a lot of dependencies! | 11:03 |
| suma | pupnik: it should resolve itself and install thoses ones too right ? | 11:03 |
| pupnik | i think the repository you added for asterisk must be incorrect | 11:05 |
| pupnik | but that is just a guess | 11:05 |
| pupnik | or rather, you installed asterisk with dpkg -i | 11:06 |
| pupnik | and then ran apt-get install asterisk, because it didn't run | 11:06 |
| suma | i did not install asterisk with dpkg | 11:07 |
| pupnik | ok | 11:07 |
| pupnik | # | 11:07 |
| pupnik | asterisk is already the newest version. | 11:07 |
| pupnik | haha | 11:07 |
| suma | did not get you ! | 11:07 |
| pupnik | look at your pastebin.ca output | 11:08 |
| suma | yes ican see it is asking for latest libraries | 11:08 |
| pupnik | no man | 11:09 |
| suma | but i don't know from which repos it is grabbing from | 11:09 |
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| pupnik | you have some kind of askterisk from the wrong distribution | 11:09 |
| pupnik | there is no gcc 4.2 for IT | 11:09 |
| pupnik | gcc version 3.4.4 (release) (CodeSourcery ARM 2005q3-2) | 11:09 |
| pupnik | you probably tried to install an asterisk from some other debian-arm distro | 11:09 |
| suma | oh ok | 11:09 |
| suma | i c | 11:10 |
| suma | you mean my repository settings are not correct ? | 11:10 |
| pupnik | maybe | 11:10 |
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| pupnik | i suggest you search with google | 11:12 |
| pupnik | if you do not see discussion in #maemo IRC, or maemo-developers or maemo-users about asterisk, and links to asterisk *FOR* The Nokia, then you will have much work to do | 11:13 |
| pupnik | if you can show a URL to asterisk FOR THE N770, then maybe we can solve the problem | 11:14 |
| suma | pupnik: there is one but that is for OS2005 | 11:14 |
| suma | not for OS2006 | 11:14 |
| pupnik | ah. | 11:14 |
| pupnik | that will not work. contact the author or search for other people who have run asterisk | 11:15 |
| pupnik | s/author/porter/ | 11:15 |
| infobot | pupnik meant: that will not work. contact the porter or search for other people who have run asterisk | 11:15 |
| pupnik | it2005 programs do not work on it2006 | 11:15 |
| suma | i don't have x86 machine installed with linux | 11:15 |
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| suma | thanks pupnik | 11:16 |
| pupnik | sorry i can't help | 11:16 |
| suma | i will check whether other programs are getting installed | 11:16 |
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| pupnik | the person who compiled asterisk for 2005 probably can compile it for 2006 | 11:17 |
| suma | i will build one soon and release it | 11:19 |
| suma | i just now tried installed net-tools with apt-get | 11:20 |
| suma | still i have problem | 11:20 |
| suma | but i have found net-tool in the pool | 11:20 |
| suma | i even did apt-get update too | 11:21 |
| suma | pupnik: can you help the apt-get problem sorted out ? | 11:22 |
| pupnik | this version of asterisk is incorrect | 11:22 |
| suma | ok | 11:23 |
| suma | actually i tried to install net-tools | 11:23 |
| suma | apt-get install net-tools | 11:23 |
| suma | where there is an .deb file in the pool | 11:24 |
| suma | but i could not get it automatically installed with apt-get | 11:24 |
| suma | what i do is, i download the files manually and install with ipkg | 11:24 |
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| GreySim | Anyone know how to get out of insert mode in vi? There seems to be no escape key. | 11:27 |
| guru3 | the return button | 11:28 |
| guru3 | the loopy arrow one i mean | 11:28 |
| GreySim | Ah, that makes perfect sense. Thanks. | 11:28 |
| guru3 | np | 11:28 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:37 |
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| amr | i just plugged my 770 into my mac over usb | 12:00 |
| amr | card mounted fine, i tried to copy some files across | 12:00 |
| amr | but the transfer crashed | 12:01 |
| amr | tried to unmount it as best as i could | 12:01 |
| amr | then just unplugged it | 12:01 |
| amr | now the card wont appear when i plug it back in on my mac | 12:01 |
| amr | ive done a full restart and replug in on the device | 12:01 |
| amr | what can i do | 12:02 |
| amr | when i plug it in the 770 has the usb icon there | 12:02 |
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| amr | after a track finishes playing canola is it normal for it to take a minute for it to find the next track to play | 12:24 |
| amr | its stuck display -0:03 | 12:24 |
| amr | and doesnt respond | 12:24 |
| amr | then find the next track a minute later | 12:24 |
| amr | is that normal? | 12:28 |
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| gpd | is it just me or does UKMP 1.5 not stop playing on exit? | 12:35 |
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| suma | can anyone recommend media player for linux to serve nokia 770 ? | 12:39 |
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| amr | how come when i mount my 770's card over usb it works fine the first time | 12:42 |
| amr | but every time after that it doesnt show up | 12:42 |
| MobileSim | Dunno. I'll try myself right now though. | 12:42 |
| amr | im on mac os x | 12:42 |
| amr | so that might affect things | 12:42 |
| amr | after its been plugged in | 12:43 |
| amr | i cant open any applications on my mac | 12:43 |
| amr | and am forced to turn it off by holding in power | 12:43 |
| amr | i assume that isnt normal :p | 12:43 |
| MobileSim | Shouldn't be! o.O | 12:44 |
| amr | fantastic | 12:45 |
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| amr | and my canola isnt playing nicely either | 12:45 |
| MobileSim | Remounting works fine for me under Linux, so it's either OS X or your device. | 12:46 |
| amr | well this sucks | 12:46 |
| MobileSim | Are you ejecting it properly? | 12:46 |
| amr | yea | 12:46 |
| MobileSim | No idea then. I'm a fairly new 770 owner. :/ | 12:48 |
| amr | same | 12:48 |
| amr | i dont really want either of my devices to be broken :-( | 12:48 |
| MobileSim | Speaking of which, anyone know how to get maemo-dm on the 770? | 12:48 |
| * MobileSim can't find a package or repo for it anywhere. | 12:50 | |
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| amr | any 770 veterans about? require assistance :p | 12:53 |
| amr | ok i think its behavign | 13:04 |
| amr | now its just canola that is broken | 13:04 |
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| bldewolf | are there any password keeping programs for maemo? | 13:12 |
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| pupnik | bldewolf: interesting question. what does a password keeping program do? | 13:53 |
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| AD-N770 | good morning | 14:03 |
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| zeenix | robtaylor: cool! thanks | 14:15 |
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| amr | does anyone know the resolution, fps and bit rate of the sample video you get with a nokia 770? | 15:02 |
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| wollop | where u get media convertor from for windows | 15:36 |
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| wollop | anyone? | 15:41 |
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| milhouse | media converter? | 15:59 |
| _Monkey | i guess media converter is https://garage.maemo.org/projects/mediaconverter | 15:59 |
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| matmo | hello all | 17:10 |
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| matmo | two new 770, one with supplied IT2006 (latest) and the other with 2007 Hackers. How to get smbfs? | 17:10 |
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| greyg00 | anyone here having usb host mode working with the patches from www.muro.com? | 17:56 |
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| syntux | guys, How can I add my google domain account to gtalk in nokia n800 ? | 18:20 |
| syntux | lemme elaborate, my mail for jadmadi.net is hosted at google for domains http://google.com/a/, I use pidgin just fine with my laptop but how to set that up in my nokia without using pidgin to use the audio conversation feature ? | 18:21 |
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| amr | hm | 18:33 |
| amr | i can only copy across 24/26 mb to my mmc over usb | 18:33 |
| amr | then my computer locks up | 18:33 |
| amr | (mac os x) | 18:33 |
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| amr | whats goin on | 18:33 |
| tweg | amr: N800 latest image? | 18:38 |
| amr | n770 latest image | 18:38 |
| tweg | dunno then | 18:39 |
| amr | brilliant :( | 18:39 |
| tweg | just thought it might be related to that sd corruption bug | 18:39 |
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| dalonso | Hi people, good evening | 18:48 |
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| dalonso | I'm following the tutorial in http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/?p=351 abou scratchbox installation | 18:48 |
| dalonso | I'm having problems when updating sdk from 3.1 to 3.2 inside the armel target | 18:49 |
| dalonso | it works fine inside the intel target however | 18:49 |
| dalonso | this is the output of "fakeroot apt-get dist-upgrade": | 18:52 |
| dalonso | Unpacking replacement maemo-af-desktop ... | 18:52 |
| dalonso | /var/lib/dpkg/info/maemo-af-desktop.postrm: line 5: /usr/bin/update-mime-database: No such file or directory | 18:52 |
| dalonso | dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 1 | 18:52 |
| dalonso | dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... | 18:52 |
| dalonso | /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm: line 5: /usr/bin/update-mime-database: No such file or directory | 18:52 |
| dalonso | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/maemo-af-desktop_2.9.99.25-1_armel.deb (--unpack): | 18:52 |
| dalonso | subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 1 | 18:52 |
| dalonso | /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm: line 5: /usr/bin/update-mime-database: No such file or directory | 18:52 |
| dalonso | but /usr/bin/update-mime-database does exist | 18:53 |
| dalonso | any idea? | 18:53 |
| dalonso | In the irc log, I can read about someone having the same problem some days ago | 18:53 |
| dalonso | anybody? | 18:54 |
| _Monkey | it has been said that anybody is Im here | 18:54 |
| dalonso | :'( | 18:56 |
| amr | if i plug the mmc into a laptop i can copy fine | 18:56 |
| erstazi | dalonso, hmm there are a few that use scratchbox, I have it installed but I don't use it much | 18:56 |
| amr | so is it my device, my cable | 18:56 |
| amr | or my macbook | 18:56 |
| dalonso | erstazi, thx | 18:57 |
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| erstazi | dalonso, I am going to see about porting some apps myself, sometime | 18:58 |
| erstazi | dalonso, what app are you trying to port? | 18:58 |
| dalonso | erstazi, I'd like to learn the hildon api and maybe do some portings after | 18:58 |
| erstazi | ah | 18:58 |
| dalonso | erstazi: I received my N800 only some days ago | 18:59 |
| dalonso | so first contact | 18:59 |
| erstazi | amr, you can not access your mmc card on your nokia while the usb is plugged in to your computer | 18:59 |
| amr | i know that | 18:59 |
| amr | my problem is that | 19:00 |
| amr | when plugged into my macbook | 19:00 |
| erstazi | dalonso, aye, thats understandable, there are a lot of apps still needing porting for this ARM arch debian-based distro | 19:00 |
| amr | i can only copy across the first 24mb of a file then the transfer locks up | 19:00 |
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| amr | as does my macbook | 19:00 |
| erstazi | amr, I haven't experienced that | 19:00 |
| amr | does anyone here have a macbook? | 19:00 |
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| erstazi | amr, what size of mmc did you receive? the original 64mb? | 19:01 |
| amr | its a 1gb one | 19:01 |
| amr | datawrite 1gb rs-mmc | 19:01 |
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| erstazi | ok | 19:03 |
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| Chiliblue | Like a lot of people I have just got a N770 (now they seem to be clearing them out) its a hard job working out where to start with upgrading and setting up the unit, is there a newbie website that any one could point me at | 19:04 |
| Chiliblue | ? | 19:04 |
| erstazi | Chiliblue, yes I can help | 19:04 |
| erstazi | Chiliblue, I have a 770 myself | 19:04 |
| amr | i got mine yesterday, all ive done is extend the virtual memory | 19:05 |
| erstazi | Chiliblue, first, have you ever messed with linux? | 19:05 |
| Chiliblue | hey, I guess what I need to understand is should I go for the OS2007 | 19:05 |
| Chiliblue | yes I have messed a fair amount with linux | 19:05 |
| erstazi | Chiliblue, I am not going for the OS2007 | 19:05 |
| Chiliblue | hack the iopener and the 3com audrey | 19:05 |
| erstazi | there are some that have, but I don't see a difference, most of the packges out there are OS2006 *and* OS2007 | 19:06 |
| Chiliblue | is it much less stable, is there a lot broken in it? SUrely you can downgrade if it doesn't work out | 19:06 |
| erstazi | Chiliblue, have you ever messed with debian-based linux? | 19:06 |
| Chiliblue | yup I have it on my laptop and server | 19:06 |
| erstazi | Chiliblue, yes, you could always restore, but thats a pain, now you *can* go with IT2007HE (hackers edition) but I don't know how stable that is | 19:07 |
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| erstazi | Chiliblue, I have a sources.list if you want for all the working repos and the non-working repos are commented out, you can always enable them later | 19:07 |
| erstazi | Chiliblue, some of the non-working just need gpg keys | 19:07 |
| Chiliblue | thats what I have, I was just trying to work out how to install it from windows, downloaded the nokia update tool and discovered I needed .net 2.0 to run it | 19:08 |
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| erstazi | oh, I have .net 2.0 on my windows box so I didn't know that | 19:08 |
| Chiliblue | does it use apt-get then | 19:08 |
| erstazi | Chiliblue, I am getting there, haha | 19:08 |
| erstazi | first, you need to go on maemo.org (this is where open source development goes for the nokia tablets) | 19:09 |
| Chiliblue | ok found that | 19:09 |
| erstazi | let me give you a link | 19:09 |
| Chiliblue | got it open in a browser here | 19:09 |
| erstazi | ok, search for xterm advanced | 19:10 |
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| Chiliblue | erstazi I only ordered it after I saw it was running linux | 19:10 |
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| erstazi | Chiliblue, you want xterm advanced... because the other xterm is not that great | 19:11 |
| Chiliblue | ok | 19:11 |
| Chiliblue | can I get tha frim maemo | 19:11 |
| ericz | is advanced the one with the toolbar for buttons on the side? | 19:11 |
| erstazi | Chiliblue, now, you will see some of these packages are .deb packages, but they are built through scratchbox for the ARM arch and not x86 | 19:11 |
| erstazi | ericz, yes | 19:11 |
| ericz | ah, alright | 19:11 |
| erstazi | Chiliblue, yes you can, maemo is your friend | 19:11 |
| erstazi | when you get xterm (advanced) up, you will need to install becomeroot | 19:12 |
| erstazi | now, you are use to debian based.. where you sudo <command>? well you just do sudo gainroot | 19:12 |
| erstazi | and you are root | 19:12 |
| erstazi | then I *suggest* to change your passwords: passwd user (default username) and then passwd root, because the default pass for root is rootme | 19:13 |
| erstazi | http://maemo.org/downloads/system/ | 19:13 |
| erstazi | also install openssh and not dropbear, I just hear its easier to install openssh | 19:13 |
| erstazi | you can ssh to your tablet from your pc | 19:13 |
| ericz | really? hrm. is openssh on maemo? | 19:13 |
| erstazi | and install that way as well, if you... | 19:13 |
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| erstazi | yes ericz | 19:13 |
| Chiliblue | ok, should I install os2007 hacked before I start this | 19:13 |
| ericz | i've been using dropbear, and i don't tihnk it has as many features | 19:13 |
| erstazi | after you get all that done, you can use my /etc/apt/sources.list at http://c-wd.net/sources.list | 19:14 |
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| erstazi | Chiliblue, honestly, give this a try, make it a project later on, don't jump right into it... we have guys who dual boot off their rs=mmc card | 19:15 |
| Chiliblue | ok | 19:15 |
| erstazi | so you could *always* do it that way | 19:15 |
| erstazi | s/rs=mmc/rs-mmc | 19:15 |
| Chiliblue | easier anyway, seeing as I don't get how you get this into usb mode :) | 19:15 |
| |tbb| | anyone using synergy ? | 19:15 |
| erstazi | Chiliblue, when I ssh, I just use the wifi connection | 19:15 |
| Chiliblue | ok | 19:16 |
| erstazi | the USB is for transfering over to your rs-mmc or updating using the update wizard | 19:16 |
| erstazi | ok, I typed all that real quick because I got to run to the store | 19:16 |
| Chiliblue | np | 19:16 |
| erstazi | I will be back in 20 unless I get a wifi connection (gizmo is nice too on the 770 | 19:16 |
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| ericz | i've had my 770 since woot sold them.. and i've yet to take the usb cable out of the box.. never hooked it up to PC.. haven't needed to, heh.. | 19:16 |
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| NeoStrider_IM | hello fellows | 19:30 |
| tweg | hola | 19:32 |
| _Monkey | salut, tweg | 19:32 |
| tweg | bonsoir monkeybot | 19:32 |
| NeoStrider_IM | oi _Monkey, my boy! | 19:34 |
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| Chili | NickServ IDENTIFY k2juju | 19:37 |
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| NeoStrider | Chili, I guess you need to use /msg NickServ ... , right? | 19:38 |
| Chili | :) | 19:38 |
| Chili | been a while | 19:38 |
| NeoStrider | been doing it all the time =-P | 19:39 |
| Chili | forgotten the password | 19:39 |
| Chili | lol | 19:40 |
| NeoStrider | ooops | 19:40 |
| Chili | unless some has become chiliblue in my adsence | 19:41 |
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| Chiliblue | ok xterm, becomeroot and openssh done and installed | 19:53 |
| Chiliblue | actually not done openssh yet, not found right version | 19:55 |
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| amr | ok | 19:59 |
| amr | regardless of the pc os | 19:59 |
| amr | it still crashes whenever i try and copy a file using usb | 20:00 |
| amr | is it the device or the cable | 20:00 |
| amr | i flashed my device fine yesterday | 20:00 |
| NeoStrider | maybe its your desktop's os | 20:00 |
| NeoStrider | file transfer is a very high level function of your desktop OS | 20:01 |
| amr | it crashes vista and mac osx | 20:01 |
| Chiliblue | struuggling to find openssh for os2006 | 20:01 |
| NeoStrider | and flashing is a more low level | 20:01 |
| NeoStrider | well...maybe its your tablet OS then | 20:01 |
| amr | mac osx manages to transfer 24mb before crashing, vista just breaks | 20:01 |
| NeoStrider | vista doesnt count ;-P | 20:02 |
| NeoStrider | (its not unix) | 20:02 |
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| amr | :p | 20:04 |
| amr | should i try flash my device again | 20:04 |
| amr | i havent got anything on there irreplaceable | 20:04 |
| NeoStrider | hum | 20:04 |
| NeoStrider | not on this cable | 20:04 |
| NeoStrider | and on this machine | 20:04 |
| amr | well i dont have another cable | 20:05 |
| amr | actually i might | 20:05 |
| * NeoStrider still has his N-Gage cable ;-) | 20:05 | |
| amr | my dads minidisc looks to be the same connector | 20:05 |
| NeoStrider | never tried to reflash using other cable | 20:05 |
| NeoStrider | but file transfer do works | 20:06 |
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| amr | well its 2 pcs ive tried | 20:06 |
| amr | both produce pretty similar errors | 20:06 |
| amr | im at a loss | 20:06 |
| NeoStrider | well...I just dont know... | 20:10 |
| amr | found my usb mmc reader | 20:11 |
| amr | which appears to work | 20:12 |
| amr | and is now copying | 20:12 |
| amr | slow as hell unfortunately | 20:12 |
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| amr | already at 30 mb | 20:13 |
| amr | so its not the os afaik | 20:13 |
| amr | fuck | 20:20 |
| amr | its stuck in my reader now | 20:20 |
| amr | the end bit came off | 20:20 |
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| amr | haha, just popped the casing off never mind | 20:23 |
| NeoStrider | remember that the card reader module is not the same from the usb transfer | 20:23 |
| amr | sorry? | 20:24 |
| amr | also, what format do vids need to be in for canola to play them | 20:24 |
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| amr | anyone know? | 20:39 |
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| flo_ | Hi ! I got an n800 yesterday and it worked fine. Today i had to to recharge it and it won't charge. When i try to turn it on it just shows the Nokia screen for a second and then turns off again :( any ideas ? | 21:12 |
| melmoth | not charged enough ? | 21:15 |
| melmoth | you are supposed tgo be able to charge it while it s turned off. | 21:16 |
| melmoth | it sort of show that battery charging is going on, and tells you when it s over as well | 21:16 |
| bldewolf | pupnik, cryptographic storage for secrets, like password safe, keepass, etc...I usually use keepass but it uses Qt... | 21:16 |
| `0660 | yeah, it can be really tricky to turn back on if the battery is flat | 21:17 |
| flo_ | melmoth: the problem is it shows nothing when i plug in the ac - no led lights up nothing happens at all | 21:17 |
| flo_ | melmoth: and shouldn't i be able to turn it on if it's connected to power despite low battery power ? | 21:17 |
| `0660 | you can try to remove the battery, put it back in and the plug the charger back on | 21:17 |
| melmoth | that s nor normal, the whole screen says something with a charging icon of some sort when you plug the power (and the n800 is off) | 21:17 |
| melmoth | looks like the charger is faulty | 21:18 |
| `0660 | no, you cannot turn it on when it's connected before it has enough power | 21:18 |
| `0660 | can take something like 30 minutes or so | 21:18 |
| `0660 | i don't know what happens in the start but it seems to consume power like a microwave oven when it's booting | 21:20 |
| flo_ | melmoth: :( it worked yesterday - must have broke since then. damn.. | 21:21 |
| `0660 | believe me, it's not broken :) | 21:21 |
| flo_ | `0660: but i have the ac plugged in for like 40min now and i still can't turn it on | 21:25 |
| flo_ | it also doesn't show that charging icon or anything.... | 21:25 |
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| joshin | Where can I find the xserver-kdrive sources for the 770? | 21:33 |
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| amr | what format do vids need to be in for canola to play them | 21:52 |
| senuxis | amr: have you visited the canola web site? | 21:53 |
| senuxis | amr: i think that you'll find that info there | 21:54 |
| amr | my bad | 21:54 |
| senuxis | http://openbossa.indt.org/canola | 21:56 |
| cbx33 | grr | 21:56 |
| senuxis | maemo page: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/canola/ | 21:56 |
| cbx33 | this memory card issue is annoyin | 21:56 |
| cbx33 | why hasn't any one fixed bug 1204 | 21:57 |
| cbx33 | heh | 21:57 |
| cbx33 | it's funny the fsck mentions a problem about a size being quoted too small at 16384 | 21:57 |
| cbx33 | however the pc doesn't say any such thing | 21:57 |
| amr | dont see any recommendations on either site | 22:00 |
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| senuxis | umm | 22:11 |
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| senuxis | amr: this review lists some formats supported by the 770, canola supports all of the same formates as the default 770 media player | 22:14 |
| senuxis | *formats | 22:14 |
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| senuxis | amr: search for "Supported File Formats" on the page | 22:15 |
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| matmo | catch22: problems installing on IT2006 due to missing libs, need x terminal to rectify but can't install it... due to missing libs! What to do? | 22:30 |
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| Spec[770] | is os2k7 worth putting on my 770? o.o | 22:36 |
| matmo | working ok for me, but I'm a new 770 user | 22:37 |
| Spec[770] | does it do flash? | 22:38 |
| matmo | don't know, sry | 22:39 |
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| strids | manually install libs?:( | 22:43 |
| matmo | strids: same problem as me installing apps with missing libs? | 22:44 |
| feig | strids, you could use either red-pill mode or dpkg -i <package> | 22:45 |
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| strids | wipe and restart | 22:53 |
| matmo | ok solved my prob by wiping out hacker repositories | 22:57 |
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| jcole | hi | 23:21 |
| _Monkey | hola, jcole | 23:21 |
| jcole | what is the best way to install Maemo on my hx4700? | 23:21 |
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| BladeRunner | some maemo developer? | 23:28 |
| tso | heh, trying to use smbrowser is a experience all its own... | 23:29 |
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| trevarthan | morning all | 23:32 |
| matmo | tso, just installed it and works fine | 23:33 |
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| tso | yep, just have to figure that ui out :P | 23:33 |
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| renner | - | 23:34 |
| tso | btw, anyone know where to aim that idea desk applet so that i can access my inbox? | 23:34 |
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| tso | anyone had the chance to try the webkit browser for N800 and have any idea of how effective it is at managing ajax pages? | 23:38 |
| unique311 | trevarthan, | 23:40 |
| _Monkey | trevarthan, is the UKMP using the same pink pixel transparency effect you using? | 23:40 |
| trevarthan | hey unique311. how's that theme coming? | 23:40 |
| unique311 | I finally figured out the colorkey thing.. | 23:41 |
| trevarthan | yes, _Monkey, UKMP is using the same pink pixel transparency effect. | 23:41 |
| unique311 | thanks for the email. | 23:41 |
| trevarthan | coolness. | 23:41 |
| trevarthan | :) It wasn't easy or obvious. I had to spend a few hours trying to figure it out myself. | 23:41 |
| unique311 | i have a theme i'm using right now. | 23:41 |
| unique311 | i think its cool.. | 23:41 |
| unique311 | pastel colors i think, not too sure about the green. | 23:42 |
| trevarthan | yeah, I don't like the green. | 23:42 |
| trevarthan | I like the blue though. | 23:42 |
| trevarthan | try yellow instead of green? | 23:42 |
| unique311 | but i'm going to package up the new xfi, psd, and png files for ya | 23:42 |
| trevarthan | cool. | 23:42 |
| unique311 | tell me what you think of this one first.. | 23:42 |
| trevarthan | I plan to make a release tomorrow sometime, so try to get it to me by then. I'm not sure if your theme will be the default theme for 1.1, but I definitely want to include it. | 23:43 |
| trevarthan | honestly, I think besides the green color, the only thing I don't like about the blue theme is the A2DP button. | 23:44 |
| unique311 | bluetooth... | 23:44 |
| trevarthan | I like the icon, but I don't think the highlight, unhighlight thing is very obvious. Maybe a red slash through the icon would work better for an "off" state? | 23:45 |
| trevarthan | yeah. bluetooth/a2dp button. | 23:45 |
| unique311 | i had that first | 23:45 |
| unique311 | lol | 23:45 |
| trevarthan | :) | 23:45 |
| trevarthan | did it look good? | 23:45 |
| unique311 | i had like the little circle around it at the bottom right | 23:45 |
| unique311 | it did...but i didn't think it stood for off.. | 23:45 |
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| trevarthan | yeah. we might need something less glaring.... | 23:46 |
| tso | is the bluetooth in the 770 toggleable? | 23:46 |
| trevarthan | tso: in kagu? that's what we're talking about. | 23:46 |
| tso | sorry, not related. i just wondered. heh, maybe i should bother to read the manual properly :P | 23:47 |
| trevarthan | unique311: what if we made the "off" state of the bluetooth button a grayscale image? | 23:47 |
| trevarthan | on makes it color? | 23:47 |
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| unique311 | yeah | 23:49 |
| unique311 | that would work. | 23:49 |
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| unique311 | i'll do 2 | 23:49 |
| unique311 | 1 grayscale, and the other with the circle red thingy slash | 23:50 |
| unique311 | check out the png in the package i just sent you... | 23:50 |
| trevarthan | k. | 23:50 |
| unique311 | i notice the blank space between the music list, and the album in the lowe right, is used for the scrolling also.. | 23:51 |
| unique311 | is that a mistake or intentionally | 23:51 |
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