IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2007-08-04

amrive never seen the default mail client actually connect to my mail server00:01
amreither of them, is that normal?00:01
tsohmm, u see a directory setting, is that needed to be set?00:01
ffoegboyIf I purchase a N800 in Germany can I change the operating system to English?00:01
pupnikdunno, i use webmail for simplicity00:01
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pupnikffoegboy: tools->control panel->language and region  (or the equivalent in german)00:02
tsointerestingly it seems to be fully connected, it just fails at getting the content of the dir00:02
tsofound the problem. kill active mode and ascii transfer :P00:04
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ffoegboypupnik, Thanks, So if I do that all comands will be in English. I purchased some software in Germany last year and when changed to english all the base commands were still in german and I cant read Geerman?00:04
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pupnikthe rest of the tablet os is displaying in english, but only that one piece of software is still in german?00:05
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ffoegboypupnik, No that was not for a N800, it was adobe illustrator for my laptop but I will be in Germany in a few weeks and the N800 is not going to be released in Australia at least for a while00:06
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pupnikCongrats on the decision to get a N800 mate! :)  I don't understand the question then.00:07
pupnikI got my n770 in germany and all the language stuff is in english (through settings)00:08
amryou can change it yes00:08
ffoegboypupnik, If I but a German n800 will I be able to use it as I cant read German?00:08
ffoegboypupnik, should read if I buy00:08
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pupnikyeah you can change the language to english and all stuff should appear as english00:09
ffoegboypupnik, thanks I will order one, they look great!! do you know what the best GPS reciever to get would be?00:10
pupnikdon't know.  check compatibility first00:11
tsoto bad the internal pdf-reader cant flip pages to vertical...00:11
pupnikthere is also poppler-tools for pdftohtml00:11
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ffoegboypupnik, OK thanks anyway I cant wait to get one and start playing :-)00:12
johdevalWhats the biggest difference between a 770 and 800?00:14
tsobigger cpu and more ram?00:14
tsoand the design ;)00:14
milhousepro: better screen (on n800); con: no hard cover on n80000:14
milhousetwo sd slots on n80000:15
milhousefloating point unit on n800 (better performance). n800 has pretty bad video bandwidth though, 770 is possibly better00:15
||cwI though video on the n800 was better00:16
johdevalI like my 770 I am looking at the 800 and the design is a little funny but without holding it kinda hard to tell00:16
||cw800 has SDHC as well, 2 of them00:16
milhouse||cw - the n800 has more cpu horsepower, but the video bandwidth has been compromised due to the hardware design00:17
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milhousethe net result being the n800 will never perform as well as it "should" have done in theory00:17
johdevalSo if you had a choice which one?00:18
milhouseevery time I hold a 770 these days it reminds me of why the n800 is so wrong00:18
johdevalCost not being a factor feature for feature.00:18
milhousewith luck nokia will be right on the money with the "n900"00:18
tsoso thats why youtube "failed" on the n800?00:18
johdevalSo then you are saying I made the right choice with the 77000:18
milhousetso - has it failed?00:18
tsowell, it depends on who you ask...00:19
milhousejohdeval - for the current price i think it's hard to argue against buying the 77000:19
tsothe last update may have helped ;)00:19
johdevalmilhouse: I agree but I wanted to take price out of the equation.00:19
milhousei doubt youtube is sucky due to bandwidth issues00:19
milhousemplayer would benefit from better video bandwidth though00:20
tsoit would be interesting if opera managed to convince w3c to go with ogg as a native media format for the web :)00:20
johdevalDo any of you guys use tversity with the 770? I have it working and it seems to work ok on tv shows but feature length moves it just craps out on.00:20
pupnikwhen i dpkg-buildpackage it always builds with default options... how do i pass options to the configure script?00:20
milhousejohdeval - in that case, the n800 from a hardware point of view is a substantial improvement over the 770. unfortunately the design is a step backwards (i prefer the 770 and the hard case) and the video bandwidth issue is a shame. maybe next time...00:21
milhousejohdeval - i've used tversity with the 770 but i never watched an entire film00:21
milhouseer... movie.00:21
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johdevalDid you try a movie?00:23
milhousei did... they seemed to play ok for the few minutes i watched them00:25
amrhow do i press enter in xterm00:25
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tsothere is a small one on the virtual keyboard...00:25
milhousewatching a film on a 770/n800 doesn't appeal to me (as i have a big screen in the lounge for that kind of thing)00:25
amrwhere abouts00:25
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milhouseright hand side00:26
johdevalI have tversity setup to share my media while I am on the road.00:26
milhousebelow the backspace00:26
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milhousesecond down from the top on the right is enter. top is backspace.00:26
amroh shit00:26
amrmy bad, i mean escape00:26
milhouseescape is the hard button below the d-pad00:27
milhousejohdeval - ah right, yes that would be more useful... :)00:27
johdevalI am hoping to use my 770 for that. I have to say I am impressed with the battery life.00:28
johdevalI has lasted all day00:28
johdevalalso cant get porn while on the road. I need my girls gone wild fix. LOL00:29
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_Monkeyhello, senuxis00:43
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senuxisthank god!00:44
senuxissome body finally replied00:44
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senuxissome of the channels in here are like ghost channels00:44
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senuxisMonkey, do you know of poky linux?00:45
senuxis@_Monkey: do you know of poky linux?00:46
senuxishas any one installed it on the n800?00:48
johdevalNay is it possible?00:48
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senuxisapparently so; they've got images00:48
senuxison their website00:48
johdevalI see that.00:49
senuxisbut it's experimental00:49
johdevalI wonder if it would work on the 770 as well.00:49
senuxisso, i was wondering if any one's done it00:49
pupniki think the IT xomap looks slimmer than their full-blown (bloat) X11, not sure tho00:50
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senuxissato's suppose to be quite lightt00:51
johdevalsenuxis: The problem is the software would be optimized for the n800 then. What yoube able to install?00:51
johdevalwould not00:51
senuxisit should be compatible with the openembedded stuff00:52
senuxisjohdeval: the solution should be simple as they're mostly open source00:53
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johdevalall right guys have a good weekend this joes calling it quits01:01
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amrwhats the recommended media player on hre01:03
_Monkeyi think canola is just even more worthless with shared forlders than the mplayer frontend01:04
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amrhow do i get rid of the presence thing01:07
senuxisis any one here willing to test out poky linux on the n800?01:09
k-s[WORK]senuxis: someone here at indt tested it yesterday01:15
k-s[WORK]senuxis: why?01:15
senuxisok. does it work well?01:15
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k-s[WORK]senuxis: seems so01:16
senuxisdid it brick any thing?01:16
k-s[WORK]senuxis: no01:16
senuxiscan you post instructions some where?01:16
k-s[WORK]senuxis: it don't feel that fine usability-wise, but it's a bit better than regular hildon stuff01:16
k-s[WORK]senuxis: I didn't followed the procedure, some other guy (not present here ATM) did01:17
k-s[WORK]senuxis: seems that these instructions are available at their website01:17
k-s[WORK]have you checked it?01:17
senuxisi've checked it01:17
senuxisi see no instructions01:17
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senuxiswhat's the link?01:18
_Monkeythe link is at
stridhey guys01:19
stridany advice on an UPnP AV media server to stream to MediaStreamer on a 770?01:20
stridmust be windows based01:20
stridif it comes as a foobar plugin, that's perfect01:20
k-s[WORK]strid: simplemedia, twonky and tversity are good01:21
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stridcould you direct me to simplemedia's website?01:23
k-s[WORK]strid: sorry, no link on my part01:23
stridI can't find it on google01:24
stridthere are plenty of PR firms and polish blogs01:24
stridbut no streaming servers01:25
stridk-s[WORK]: is simplemedia part of simplecenter?01:27
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k-s[WORK]strid: dunno, just heard of it01:32
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stridwindows media player 1101:43
stridit's actually working flawlessly01:43
stridand being completely awesome01:43
stridthere must be black magic involved01:43
stridI had to wave my hand between my laptop and my 770 just to make sure there weren't any hidden strings or cables01:44
pupnikusing what01:44
stridwmp11 streaming to mediastreamer on 77001:45
erstazi_n770i still think wmp11 is bloated01:45
stridhooked up to my stereo01:45
stridwell no shit it's bloated, but it's doing the job in a completely awesome fashion01:45
erstazi_n770slimserver is nice01:45
pupnikwhat is the program on the 770 called, "mediastreamer"/01:45
pupnikok thanks01:45
erstazi_n770mediastreamer is not the default audio app01:46
stridI don't even have to be running wmp1101:47
stridI just accidentally closed it and it's still working01:47
stridblack magic01:47
erstazi_n770i need to switch the symlinks in the menu01:48
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pupnik"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke01:49
amrhm i cant install samba for some reason01:50
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senuxiswill maemo ever support java?01:51
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stridthis is what the future is all about01:54
stridfuck hovercars01:54
stridI can die happily having seen the apex of mankind's technological capacity01:54
stridI need to get high and think this over01:55
stridand then write a letter of appreciation to whoever posted the first wifi RFC01:55
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pupnikperhaps a stupid question: why not just mount a share on the pc and play vids using mplayer?01:57
stridI'm not playing videos, I'm playing music 8D01:59
stridalso, I used wmp11's library sharing01:59
stridwhich was a lot smoother than I expected01:59
pupnikinteresting thanks02:00
stridI thought I'd have to install samba and manually add lan mapped mp3s in a media player02:00
stridbut it was basically just three clicks on each device and a one way ticket to awesometowne02:00
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pupnikvery nice!02:01
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stridnow I need some sort of wifi remote control02:01
stridso I can skip the current track if it sucks02:01
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pupnikbuy another 770? :P02:02
stridI probably should02:03
erstazi_n770strid, with slimserver you can02:03
erstazi_n770i use my 770 like a streamer and remote02:04
erstazi_n770strid, google nokia 770 slimserver02:04
stridwell the thing is, my 770 is physically hooked up to my stereo while playing music over wifi from my laptop, which I'm using out of reach of the 77002:05
strid(not streaming)02:05
erstazi_n770slimserver goes on a pc02:05
erstazi_n770and you can change your music02:06
stridmy laptop has a comparable cpu to the 770, I'd rather have the nokia handle the decoding and playback while demanding only bandwidth from the laptop02:06
stridoh wait, I could install that httpd on the 77002:06
stridand uh02:06
stridcook up some python script02:07
erstazi_n770actually, your nokia would not broadcast02:07
stridlink it in a php02:07
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erstazi_n770only receive the stream02:07
stridyeah, I said I wanted the nokia to do the playback, not recieve a stream generated by the laptop02:08
amris there a way i can pair my 770 with my macbook using bluetooth02:08
erstazi_n770and you go to the ip address of the pc that has slimserver on it02:08
amrsomeone on itt managed it02:08
erstazi_n770amr, saw it on the wiki at maemo.org02:09
amrah cool thanks02:09
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erstazi_n770np (:02:11
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sumahi i have nokia 770 and want to boot from mmc card02:16
sumagot problem in install the tar command02:16
sumacan someone please help me regarding this ?02:16
sumawhen i use the existing tar command then it cannot copy more than 100 characters of file length02:17
sumaapt-get -d install tar02:19
sumathiscommand is the one not working02:19
sumasome one please help me02:19
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lukemerm, newbie here... I have a question...02:21
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lukemAccording to the memory applet in control panel, I have 18mb of images on my device.02:22
sumalukem, what is your problem ?02:22
lukemI cannot for the life of me, locate them.02:22
lukemthey are not under /home/user/MyDocs/.images02:22
sumayou have xterm installaed ?02:22
lukemsure do02:22
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lukemalso SSH02:22
sumagive a grep to find it02:23
sumafind . | grep images02:23
sumawill get you the images directory02:23
lukemhmmm... yep, it shows the only file under /images02:23
lukemit also shows some under osso_rss_feed_reader too02:24
lukemthat must be them.02:24
lukemnope, that folder is empty02:25
sumadid you check with ls -all02:25
sumato also get the hidden files02:26
lukemI found'em02:26
sumado you mmc to boot your nokia 770 ?02:26
lukemmaemo mapper is storing cached images in internal memory instead of on the MMC02:26
lukemnot yet, 1gb card is inbound. ETA Wednesday02:26
lukemI might also try 2007HE then02:27
sumadoes that has skype too ?02:27
lukemI'm looking forward to the additional room with a bigger MMC02:27
lukemnot sure, haven't really looked into it.02:27
sumaii'm working 2GB one02:27
lukembeen spending all my tiem learning things to do with 2006...02:27
sumayes, 2006 is stable, so good to spend on that02:28
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lukemcool, moving all the cached maps to the MMC, now I'll have more room for new programs... 8)02:35
lukemnext task is installing samba so I can share out the MMC card as a "wireless usb key"...02:35
lukemThanks for your help Suma02:36
sumano problem lukem02:37
lukemanyone in here successfully use a T-Mobile MDA as a BT DUN device? that's the only other issue I'm stumped on at the moment. 8)02:40
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pupnikwhy does maemo-launcher show 8 processes each taking up 10-16% of memory?02:50
pupniknote to self - killall maemo-launcher is not the answer02:51
maddlerpupnik: hehehehe... I *know*! ;)02:51
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pupnikrebooting and checking memory again02:52
pupnikMem: 52604K used, 9620K free, 0K shrd, 1728K buff, 24468K cached02:53
pupnikthat's not a lot of free RAM for applications02:53
pupnikat least links2 webbrowser is thrifty - after startup i have 4.1% used by links2 and02:55
pupnikMem: 57428K used, 4796K free, 0K shrd, 1808K buff, 27024K cached02:55
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sumapupnik: i want to install tar on my nokia 770, can you please help ?02:59
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pupnikhi suma03:20
pupnikFilename: pool/maemo2.2/free/t/tar/tar_1.14-2.1osso_armel.deb03:22
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robtaylorzeenix: i'll host your git repo, if you want!03:45
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pupnikwhat speeds do you guys get scp-ing over to your 770?04:08
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pupnikwith scp -c blowfish i get about 300kB/s on average04:09
jacquesopenssh or dropbear?04:12
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_Monkeyi guess dropbear is a small install04:16
pupnikand regluar kernel04:16
pupnikto mmc04:18
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yabbasBizarre, I used to be able to add irc chat as a 'buddy' in pidgin.  Now it crashes...04:46
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erstaziah huh05:06
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sumasomeone please let me know where can i get ipkg package of asterisk to run on nokia 770 ?05:21
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sumapupnik: someone please let me know where can i get ipkg package of asterisk to run on nokia 770 ?05:32
sumathe previous one which you helped me worked05:32
pupniki think ipkg is for zaurus05:33
sumapupnik: i want to install asterisk in nokia 770, what is the best way i can do it ?05:34
pupniki don't know05:35
pupnikyou need soemthing compiled for nokia 770 though05:35
sumathere are not compiled binaries availabe ?05:35
pupniki think people are using this 'gizmo' or something to talk on 77005:36
pupniksearch ITT forums for 'voip'05:36
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sumai'm also using gizmo, but SIP doesn't work good in NATed environment05:37
sumawill check on the ITT forums05:37
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rhsanbornHow difficult do you guys think it woul be to put something together that could automagically chrink a batch of images (from an mmc card, digital camera) with relatively little effort?05:50
rhsanbornI'll be in Africa with the Peace Corps, I want the high qual images on my camera, but I would like to be able to easily shrink them to upload them to the internet05:50
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setiten800 is the coolest shit ever05:57
setitenow i just gotta get it to do something05:57
setitetrying to tether it to my ppc05:57
setiteno joy so far05:57
setiteany ideas05:58
setiteits an htc apache05:58
tchanrhsanborn: If you find a maemo compiled version of ImageMagick, then you can just use the "convert" binary to resize your photos.05:58
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tchanlike "convert -resize 640x480 input.jpg output.jpg"06:00
rhsanborntchan: haven't found one yet06:00
rhsanborntchan: trying to find out how hard it would be to compile for the 80006:00
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rhsanbornthat would be gold, I just don't have the dev experience06:01
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setiteanyone tethered a ppc to n770 or n800 over bluetooth06:12
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setiteoh man if i cant tether this thing imma return it06:33
setitewifi is no use to me06:33
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setitepadre pio?06:35
Piolos pollitos dicen pio pio pio06:35
javamaniaccuando tienen hambre, cuando tienen frio06:35
Pioactually i got if from the butthole surfers album pioughd.. had that nick for a while, in the days before nick completion, everyone just called me pio for short06:35
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setiteanyoen know why i cant browse my n800 on windows06:55
setiteand no snarky anti-MS comments06:55
setitei hook it up to usb.. it mounts the device but state sthat it needs to be formatted06:55
setitebut it wont format it06:55
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NeoStrider_I1hey fellows07:18
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pupnikbecause something is broken10:06
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sumapupnik: how can i solve the apt-get issue ?11:00
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sumaone moment let me paste it to the pastebin11:00
pupnikthat's a lot of dependencies!11:03
sumapupnik: it should resolve itself and install thoses ones too right ?11:03
pupniki think the repository you added for asterisk must be incorrect11:05
pupnikbut that is just a guess11:05
pupnikor rather, you installed asterisk with dpkg -i11:06
pupnikand then ran apt-get install asterisk, because it didn't run11:06
sumai did not install asterisk with dpkg11:07
pupnikasterisk is already the newest version.11:07
sumadid not get you !11:07
pupniklook at your output11:08
sumayes ican see it is asking for latest libraries11:08
pupnikno man11:09
sumabut i don't know from which repos it is grabbing from11:09
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pupnikyou have some kind of askterisk from the wrong distribution11:09
pupnikthere is no gcc 4.2 for IT11:09
pupnikgcc version 3.4.4 (release) (CodeSourcery ARM 2005q3-2)11:09
pupnikyou probably tried to install an asterisk from some other debian-arm distro11:09
sumaoh ok11:09
sumai c11:10
sumayou mean my repository settings are not correct ?11:10
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pupniki suggest you search with google11:12
pupnikif you do not see discussion in #maemo IRC, or maemo-developers or maemo-users about asterisk, and links to asterisk *FOR* The Nokia, then you will have much work to do11:13
pupnikif you can show a URL to asterisk FOR THE N770, then maybe we can solve the problem11:14
sumapupnik: there is one but that is for OS200511:14
sumanot for OS200611:14
pupnikthat will not work.  contact the author or search for other people who have run asterisk11:15
infobotpupnik meant: that will not work.  contact the porter or search for other people who have run asterisk11:15
pupnikit2005 programs do not work on it200611:15
sumai don't have x86 machine installed with linux11:15
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sumathanks pupnik11:16
pupniksorry i can't help11:16
sumai will check whether other programs are getting installed11:16
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pupnikthe person who compiled asterisk for 2005 probably can compile it for 200611:17
sumai will build one soon and release it11:19
sumai just now tried installed net-tools with apt-get11:20
sumastill i have problem11:20
sumabut i have found net-tool in the pool11:20
sumai even did apt-get update too11:21
sumapupnik: can you help the apt-get problem sorted out ?11:22
pupnikthis version of asterisk is incorrect11:22
sumaactually i tried to install net-tools11:23
sumaapt-get install net-tools11:23
sumawhere there is an .deb file in the pool11:24
sumabut i could not get it automatically installed with apt-get11:24
sumawhat i do is, i download the files manually and install with ipkg11:24
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GreySimAnyone know how to get out of insert mode in vi? There seems to be no escape key.11:27
guru3the return button11:28
guru3the loopy arrow one i mean11:28
GreySimAh, that makes perfect sense. Thanks.11:28
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JaffaMorning, all11:37
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amri just plugged my 770 into my mac over usb12:00
amrcard mounted fine, i tried to copy some files across12:00
amrbut the transfer crashed12:01
amrtried to unmount it as best as i could12:01
amrthen just unplugged it12:01
amrnow the card wont appear when i plug it back in on my mac12:01
amrive done a full restart and replug in on the device12:01
amrwhat can i do12:02
amrwhen i plug it in the 770 has the usb icon there12:02
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amrafter a track finishes playing canola is it normal for it to take a minute for it to find the next track to play12:24
amrits stuck display -0:0312:24
amrand doesnt respond12:24
amrthen find the next track a minute later12:24
amris that normal?12:28
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gpdis it just me or does UKMP 1.5 not stop playing on exit?12:35
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sumacan anyone recommend media player for linux to serve nokia 770 ?12:39
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amrhow come when i mount my 770's card over usb it works fine the first time12:42
amrbut every time after that it doesnt show up12:42
MobileSimDunno. I'll try myself right now though.12:42
amrim on mac os x12:42
amrso that might affect things12:42
amrafter its been plugged in12:43
amri cant open any applications on my mac12:43
amrand am forced to turn it off by holding in power12:43
amri assume that isnt normal :p12:43
MobileSimShouldn't be! o.O12:44
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amrand my canola isnt playing nicely either12:45
MobileSimRemounting works fine for me under Linux, so it's either OS X or your device.12:46
amrwell this sucks12:46
MobileSimAre you ejecting it properly?12:46
MobileSimNo idea then. I'm a fairly new 770 owner. :/12:48
amri dont really want either of my devices to be broken :-(12:48
MobileSimSpeaking of which, anyone know how to get maemo-dm on the 770?12:48
* MobileSim can't find a package or repo for it anywhere.12:50
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amrany 770 veterans about? require assistance :p12:53
amrok i think its behavign13:04
amrnow its just canola that is broken13:04
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bldewolfare there any password keeping programs for maemo?13:12
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pupnikbldewolf: interesting question.  what does a password keeping program do?13:53
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AD-N770good morning14:03
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zeenixrobtaylor: cool! thanks14:15
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amrdoes anyone know the resolution, fps and bit rate of the sample video you get with a nokia 770?15:02
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wollopwhere u get media convertor from for windows15:36
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milhousemedia converter?15:59
_Monkeyi guess media converter is
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matmohello all17:10
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matmotwo new 770, one with supplied IT2006 (latest) and the other with 2007 Hackers. How to get smbfs?17:10
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greyg00anyone here having usb host mode working with the patches from
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syntuxguys, How can I add my google domain account to gtalk in nokia n800 ?18:20
syntuxlemme elaborate, my mail for is hosted at google for domains, I use pidgin just fine with my laptop but how to set that up in my nokia without using pidgin to use the audio conversation feature ?18:21
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amri can only copy across 24/26 mb to my mmc over usb18:33
amrthen my computer locks up18:33
amr(mac os x)18:33
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amrwhats goin on18:33
twegamr: N800 latest image?18:38
amrn770 latest image18:38
twegdunno then18:39
amrbrilliant :(18:39
twegjust thought it might be related to that sd corruption bug18:39
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dalonsoHi people, good evening18:48
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dalonsoI'm following the tutorial in abou scratchbox installation18:48
dalonsoI'm having problems when updating sdk from 3.1 to 3.2 inside the armel target18:49
dalonsoit works fine inside the intel target however18:49
dalonsothis is the output of "fakeroot apt-get dist-upgrade":18:52
dalonsoUnpacking replacement maemo-af-desktop ...18:52
dalonso/var/lib/dpkg/info/maemo-af-desktop.postrm: line 5: /usr/bin/update-mime-database: No such file or directory18:52
dalonsodpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 118:52
dalonsodpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...18:52
dalonso/var/lib/dpkg/ line 5: /usr/bin/update-mime-database: No such file or directory18:52
dalonsodpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/maemo-af-desktop_2.9.99.25-1_armel.deb (--unpack):18:52
dalonso subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 118:52
dalonso/var/lib/dpkg/ line 5: /usr/bin/update-mime-database: No such file or directory18:52
dalonsobut /usr/bin/update-mime-database does exist18:53
dalonsoany idea?18:53
dalonsoIn the irc log, I can read about someone having the same problem some days ago18:53
_Monkeyit has been said that anybody is Im here18:54
amrif i plug the mmc into a laptop i can copy fine18:56
erstazidalonso, hmm there are a few that use scratchbox, I have it installed but I don't use it much18:56
amrso is it my device, my cable18:56
amror my macbook18:56
dalonsoerstazi, thx18:57
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erstazidalonso, I am going to see about porting some apps myself, sometime18:58
erstazidalonso, what app are you trying to port?18:58
dalonsoerstazi, I'd like to learn the hildon api and maybe do some portings after18:58
dalonsoerstazi: I received my N800 only some days ago18:59
dalonsoso first contact18:59
erstaziamr, you can not access your mmc card on your nokia while the usb is plugged in to your computer18:59
amri know that18:59
amrmy problem is that19:00
amrwhen plugged into my macbook19:00
erstazidalonso, aye, thats understandable, there are a lot of apps still needing porting for this ARM arch debian-based distro19:00
amri can only copy across the first 24mb of a file then the transfer locks up19:00
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amras does my macbook19:00
erstaziamr, I haven't experienced that19:00
amrdoes anyone here have a macbook?19:00
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erstaziamr, what size of mmc did you receive? the original 64mb?19:01
amrits a 1gb one19:01
amrdatawrite 1gb rs-mmc19:01
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ChiliblueLike a lot of people I have just got a N770 (now they seem to be clearing them out) its a hard job working out where to start with upgrading and setting up the unit, is there a newbie website that any one could point me at19:04
erstaziChiliblue, yes I can help19:04
erstaziChiliblue, I have a 770 myself19:04
amri got mine yesterday, all ive done is extend the virtual memory19:05
erstaziChiliblue, first, have you ever messed with linux?19:05
Chilibluehey, I guess what I need to understand is should I go for the OS200719:05
Chiliblueyes I have messed a fair amount with linux19:05
erstaziChiliblue, I am not going for the OS200719:05
Chilibluehack the iopener and the 3com audrey19:05
erstazithere are some that have, but I don't see a difference, most of the packges out there are OS2006 *and* OS200719:06
Chiliblueis it much less stable, is there a lot broken in it? SUrely you can downgrade if it doesn't work out19:06
erstaziChiliblue, have you ever messed with debian-based linux?19:06
Chiliblueyup I have it on my laptop and server19:06
erstaziChiliblue, yes, you could always restore, but thats a pain, now you *can* go with IT2007HE (hackers edition) but I don't know how stable that is19:07
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erstaziChiliblue, I have a sources.list if you want for all the working repos and the non-working repos are commented out, you can always enable them later19:07
erstaziChiliblue, some of the non-working just need gpg keys19:07
Chilibluethats what I have, I was just trying to work out how to install it from windows, downloaded the nokia update tool and discovered I needed .net 2.0 to run it19:08
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erstazioh, I have .net 2.0 on my windows box so I didn't know that19:08
Chilibluedoes it use apt-get then19:08
erstaziChiliblue, I am getting there, haha19:08
erstazifirst, you need to go on (this is where open source development goes for the nokia tablets)19:09
Chiliblueok found that19:09
erstazilet me give you a link19:09
Chilibluegot it open in a browser here19:09
erstaziok, search for xterm advanced19:10
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Chiliblueerstazi I only ordered it after I saw it was running linux19:10
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erstaziChiliblue, you want xterm advanced... because the other xterm is not that great19:11
Chilibluecan I get tha frim maemo19:11
ericzis advanced the one with the toolbar for buttons on the side?19:11
erstaziChiliblue, now, you will see some of these packages are .deb packages, but they are built through scratchbox for the ARM arch and not x8619:11
erstaziericz, yes19:11
ericzah, alright19:11
erstaziChiliblue, yes you can, maemo is your friend19:11
erstaziwhen you get xterm (advanced) up, you will need to install becomeroot19:12
erstazinow, you are use to debian based.. where you sudo <command>? well you just do sudo gainroot19:12
erstaziand you are root19:12
erstazithen I *suggest* to change your passwords: passwd user (default username) and then passwd root, because the default pass for root is rootme19:13
erstazialso install openssh and not dropbear, I just hear its easier to install openssh19:13
erstaziyou can ssh to your tablet from your pc19:13
ericzreally? hrm. is openssh on maemo?19:13
erstaziand install that way as well, if you...19:13
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erstaziyes ericz19:13
Chiliblueok, should I install os2007 hacked before I start this19:13
ericzi've been using dropbear, and i don't tihnk it has as many features19:13
erstaziafter you get all that done, you can use my /etc/apt/sources.list at
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erstaziChiliblue, honestly, give this a try, make it a project later on, don't jump right into it... we have guys who dual boot off their rs=mmc card19:15
erstaziso you could *always* do it that way19:15
Chiliblueeasier anyway, seeing as I don't get how you get this into usb mode :)19:15
|tbb|anyone using synergy ?19:15
erstaziChiliblue, when I ssh, I just use the wifi connection19:15
erstazithe USB is for transfering over to your rs-mmc or updating using the update wizard19:16
erstaziok, I typed all that real quick because I got to run to the store19:16
erstaziI will be back in 20 unless I get a wifi connection (gizmo is nice too on the 77019:16
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ericzi've had my 770 since woot sold them.. and i've yet to take the usb cable out of the box.. never hooked it up to PC.. haven't needed to, heh..19:16
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NeoStrider_IMhello fellows19:30
_Monkeysalut, tweg19:32
twegbonsoir monkeybot19:32
NeoStrider_IMoi _Monkey, my boy!19:34
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ChiliNickServ IDENTIFY k2juju19:37
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NeoStriderChili, I guess you need to use /msg NickServ ... , right?19:38
Chilibeen a while19:38
NeoStriderbeen doing it all the time =-P19:39
Chiliforgotten the password19:39
Chiliunless some has become chiliblue in my adsence19:41
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Chiliblueok xterm, becomeroot and openssh done and installed19:53
Chiliblueactually not done openssh yet, not found right version19:55
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amrregardless of the pc os19:59
amrit still crashes whenever i try and copy a file using usb20:00
amris it the device or the cable20:00
amri flashed my device fine yesterday20:00
NeoStridermaybe its your desktop's os20:00
NeoStriderfile transfer is a very high level function of your desktop OS20:01
amrit crashes vista and mac osx20:01
Chilibluestruuggling to find openssh for os200620:01
NeoStriderand flashing is a more low level20:01
NeoStriderwell...maybe its your tablet OS then20:01
amrmac osx manages to transfer 24mb before crashing, vista just breaks20:01
NeoStridervista doesnt count ;-P20:02
NeoStrider(its not unix)20:02
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amrshould i try flash my device again20:04
amri havent got anything on there irreplaceable20:04
NeoStridernot on this cable20:04
NeoStriderand on this machine20:04
amrwell i dont have another cable20:05
amractually i might20:05
* NeoStrider still has his N-Gage cable ;-)20:05
amrmy dads minidisc looks to be the same connector20:05
NeoStridernever tried to reflash using other cable20:05
NeoStriderbut file transfer do works20:06
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amrwell its 2 pcs ive tried20:06
amrboth produce pretty similar errors20:06
amrim at a loss20:06
NeoStriderwell...I just dont know...20:10
amrfound my usb mmc reader20:11
amrwhich appears to work20:12
amrand is now copying20:12
amrslow as hell unfortunately20:12
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amralready at 30 mb20:13
amrso its not the os afaik20:13
amrits stuck in my reader now20:20
amrthe end bit came off20:20
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amrhaha, just popped the casing off never mind20:23
NeoStriderremember that the card reader module is not the same from the usb transfer20:23
amralso, what format do vids need to be in for canola to play them20:24
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amranyone know?20:39
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flo_Hi ! I got an n800 yesterday and it worked fine. Today i had to to recharge it and it won't charge. When i try to turn it on it just shows the Nokia screen for a second and then turns off again :( any ideas ?21:12
melmothnot charged enough ?21:15
melmothyou are supposed tgo be able to charge it while it s turned off.21:16
melmothit sort of show that battery charging is going on, and tells you when it s over as well21:16
bldewolfpupnik, cryptographic storage for secrets, like password safe, keepass, etc...I usually use keepass but it uses Qt...21:16
`0660yeah, it can be really tricky to turn back on if the battery is flat21:17
flo_melmoth: the problem is it shows nothing when i plug in the ac - no led lights up nothing happens at all21:17
flo_melmoth: and shouldn't i be able to turn it on if it's connected to power despite low battery power ?21:17
`0660you can try to remove the battery, put it back in and the plug the charger back on21:17
melmoththat s nor normal, the whole screen says something with a charging icon of some sort when you plug the power (and the n800 is off)21:17
melmothlooks like the charger is faulty21:18
`0660no, you cannot turn it on when it's connected before it has enough power21:18
`0660can take something like 30 minutes or so21:18
`0660i don't know what happens in the start but it seems to consume power like a microwave oven when it's booting21:20
flo_melmoth: :( it worked yesterday - must have broke since then. damn..21:21
`0660believe me, it's not broken :)21:21
flo_`0660: but i have the ac plugged in for like 40min now and i still can't turn it on21:25
flo_it also doesn't show that charging icon or anything....21:25
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joshinWhere can I find the xserver-kdrive sources for the 770?21:33
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amrwhat format do vids need to be in for canola to play them21:52
senuxisamr: have you visited the canola web site?21:53
senuxisamr: i think that you'll find that info there21:54
amrmy bad21:54
senuxismaemo page:
cbx33this memory card issue is annoyin21:56
cbx33why hasn't any one fixed bug 120421:57
cbx33it's funny the fsck mentions a problem about a size being quoted too small at 1638421:57
cbx33however the pc doesn't say any such thing21:57
amrdont see any recommendations on either site22:00
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senuxisamr: this review lists some formats supported by the 770, canola supports all of the same formates as the default 770 media player22:14
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senuxisamr: search for "Supported File Formats" on the page22:15
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matmocatch22: problems installing on IT2006 due to missing libs, need x terminal to rectify but can't install it... due to missing libs! What to do?22:30
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Spec[770]is os2k7 worth putting on my 770? o.o22:36
matmoworking ok for me, but I'm a new 770 user22:37
Spec[770]does it do flash?22:38
matmodon't know, sry22:39
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stridsmanually install libs?:(22:43
matmostrids: same problem as me installing apps with missing libs?22:44
feigstrids, you could use either red-pill mode or dpkg -i <package>22:45
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stridswipe and restart22:53
matmook solved my prob by wiping out hacker repositories22:57
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_Monkeyhola, jcole23:21
jcolewhat is the best way to install Maemo on my hx4700?23:21
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BladeRunnersome maemo developer?23:28
tsoheh, trying to use smbrowser is a experience all its own...23:29
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trevarthanmorning all23:32
matmotso, just installed it and works fine23:33
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tsoyep, just have to figure that ui out :P23:33
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tsobtw, anyone know where to aim that idea desk applet so that i can access my inbox?23:34
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tsoanyone had the chance to try the webkit browser for N800 and have any idea of how effective it is at managing ajax pages?23:38
_Monkeytrevarthan, is the UKMP using the same pink pixel transparency effect you using?23:40
trevarthanhey unique311. how's that theme coming?23:40
unique311I finally figured out the colorkey thing..23:41
trevarthanyes, _Monkey, UKMP is using the same pink pixel transparency effect.23:41
unique311thanks for the email.23:41
trevarthan:) It wasn't easy or obvious. I had to spend a few hours trying to figure it out myself.23:41
unique311i have a theme i'm using right now.23:41
unique311i think its cool..23:41
unique311pastel colors i think, not too sure about the green.23:42
trevarthanyeah, I don't like the green.23:42
trevarthanI like the blue though.23:42
trevarthantry yellow instead of green?23:42
unique311but i'm going to package up the new xfi, psd, and png files for ya23:42
unique311tell me what you think of this one first..23:42
trevarthanI plan to make a release tomorrow sometime, so try to get it to me by then. I'm not sure if your theme will be the default theme for 1.1, but I definitely want to include it.23:43
trevarthanhonestly, I think besides the green color, the only thing I don't like about the blue theme is the A2DP button.23:44
trevarthanI like the icon, but I don't think the highlight, unhighlight thing is very obvious. Maybe a red slash through the icon would work better for an "off" state?23:45
trevarthanyeah. bluetooth/a2dp button.23:45
unique311i had that first23:45
trevarthandid it look good?23:45
unique311i had like the little circle around it at the bottom right23:45
unique311it did...but i didn't think it stood for off..23:45
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trevarthanyeah. we might need something less glaring....23:46
tsois the bluetooth in the 770 toggleable?23:46
trevarthantso: in kagu? that's what we're talking about.23:46
tsosorry, not related. i just wondered. heh, maybe i should bother to read the manual properly :P23:47
trevarthanunique311: what if we made the "off" state of the bluetooth button a grayscale image?23:47
trevarthanon makes it color?23:47
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unique311that would work.23:49
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unique311i'll do 223:49
unique3111 grayscale, and the other with the circle red  thingy slash23:50
unique311check out the png in the package i just sent you...23:50
unique311i notice the blank space between the music list, and the album in the lowe right,  is used for the scrolling also..23:51
unique311is that a mistake or intentionally23:51
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