| kulve | just a sec | 00:00 |
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| MoRpHeUz | kulve: you can try "gmyth-cat -h backend_ip -p backend_port -c 65 > test.mpg" wait about 30 seconds, CTRL+C and try to play test.mpg (mplayer test.mpg) | 00:00 |
| MoRpHeUz | this should say if gmyth stuff is working correctly | 00:00 |
| trevarthan | kulve: make sure you don't have straggler mencoder and/or gmyth processes hung in the background. | 00:00 |
| kulve | trevarthan: seems that I don't. I do get a different error, if I try again without restartin gms.. | 00:02 |
| kulve | MoRpHeUz: no errors on mythtv backend log as far as I can see.. | 00:03 |
| kulve | MoRpHeUz: what's the default backend_port..? | 00:03 |
| MoRpHeUz | 6543 | 00:03 |
| kulve | yeah, that's the one I'm using | 00:04 |
| kulve | GLib-CRITICAL **: g_io_channel_write_chars: assertion `channel != NULL' failed | 00:04 |
| kulve | I still get "adding: fizi as a client (events: 0)" in the backend's log.. | 00:05 |
| kulve | fizi being my computer.. | 00:05 |
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| MoRpHeUz | kulve: strange... =( | 00:12 |
| MoRpHeUz | kulve: with gmyth-cat it doesnt work also ? | 00:12 |
| kulve | no.. Would I need to pass the mysql db passwd and user somehow..? | 00:13 |
| kulve | or maybe it doesn't need anything from mysql.. | 00:14 |
| kulve | the gmyth-ls doesn't say anything unless I provide those | 00:14 |
| kulve | with passwd and user the ls gives the channel list | 00:14 |
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| kulve | and the gmyth-cat segfaults after the criticals.. | 00:15 |
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| MoRpHeUz | kulve: gmyth-cat -h backend_ip -p backend_port -u mythtv -c 65 > test.mpg | 00:19 |
| MoRpHeUz | try this | 00:19 |
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| kulve | invalid argument. It doesn't understand the -u. I'm just reading the gmyth_cat.c .. | 00:21 |
| MoRpHeUz | kulve: yeah, I didnt write this part of the code so I'm not sure of what is really happening | 00:22 |
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| kulve | MoRpHeUz: [gmyth_socket_receive_response] gmyth_socket.c:1161: Response received from backend: ----- {1[]:[]127.0.0.1[]:[]6543} | 00:32 |
| kulve | the gmyth-cat connects to backend, gets that at some point and then tries to connect to 127.0.0.1 which is not the backend.. | 00:32 |
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| MoRpHeUz | kulve: hhmm....maybe if you try to run mythtv-setup on the backend and besides putting 127.0.0.1 as the backends server putting its "real internal ip" it should work ! =) | 00:34 |
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| kulve | MoRpHeUz: that seemed to fix something ;) | 00:39 |
| MoRpHeUz | =) | 00:39 |
| pupnik | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=63642#post63642 Pupnik weighs in on how to save Maemo/ITOS and draw enough developers to make ITOS apps best-of-breed. | 00:40 |
| kulve | and that doesn't take cpu at all at the media box.. | 00:40 |
| kulve | MoRpHeUz: hmm.. now the cat works, but mplayer doesn't.. | 00:41 |
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| kulve | "GET /stream.do?transcoder=mencoder&type=myth&uri=192.168.3.11:6543/livetv/?channel=65 HTTP/1.0" 200 - | 00:42 |
| MoRpHeUz | kulve: try to put this: | 00:42 |
| kulve | Error: invalid literal for int() | 00:42 |
| MoRpHeUz | gmyth-cat ...... | mplayer - | 00:42 |
| MoRpHeUz | and see what happens... | 00:42 |
| kulve | works | 00:43 |
| pupnik | MoRpHeUz: did i see you in the kanotix chat or am i halluciremembering that? | 00:43 |
| unique311 | it works | 00:43 |
| unique311 | smc started in scratchbox | 00:43 |
| MoRpHeUz | pupnik: maybe halluciremembering hehe what should be kanotix ? =) | 00:43 |
| pupnik | ok sorry - kanotix was a debian-based distribution/livecd | 00:44 |
| MoRpHeUz | kulve: ok...so it should be a detail somewhere.. | 00:44 |
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| MoRpHeUz | pupnik: no problem.. =) | 00:44 |
| MoRpHeUz | kulve: try to use this uri: | 00:44 |
| unique311 | pupnik, good news | 00:44 |
| pupnik | way cool! | 00:44 |
| MoRpHeUz | mythtv:mythtv@192.168.3.11:6543/livetv/?channel=65 | 00:44 |
| unique311 | bigger than freaking smw | 00:45 |
| unique311 | 30+ maybe | 00:45 |
| kulve | MoRpHeUz: I tried "mplayer http://mythtv:mythtv@192.168.3.11:6543/livetv/?channel=65" and the backend log shows "MythSocket(aca0dfa0:12): Protocol error: 'GET /liv' is not a valid size prefix. 176 bytes pending." | 00:46 |
| MoRpHeUz | kulve: this will not work...it should be | 00:47 |
| MoRpHeUz | > mplayer "http://ip:40000/stream.do?transcoder=mencoder&type=myth&uri=mythtv:mythtv@192.168.3.11:6543/livetv/?channel=65" -nocache | 00:48 |
| kulve | oh | 00:48 |
| MoRpHeUz | note that the address is inside 'double quotes' | 00:48 |
| kulve | same thing "Error: invalid literal for int()" | 00:50 |
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| kulve | MoRpHeUz: the error continues (dunno if they are just because of the first one): | 00:55 |
| kulve | ERROR Error: Problems while starting streaming. | 00:55 |
| kulve | ERROR localhost.localdomain: code 404, message File not found | 00:55 |
| pupnik | 404'd! | 00:56 |
| MoRpHeUz | =/ | 00:57 |
| kulve | that "invalid literal for int" sounds like my url has a wrong syntax.. | 00:59 |
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| MoRpHeUz | kulve: or that somebody changed something in the code here and its broken =( | 01:00 |
| MoRpHeUz | kulve: you get errors while using gmencoder also right ? | 01:01 |
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| kulve | ** (gmemcoder:31523): WARNING **: Audio elements not found | 01:02 |
| kulve | ** (gmemcoder:31523): WARNING **: Invalid uri | 01:02 |
| kulve | that shows a parameter "-i myth://192.168.3.11:6543/livetv?channel=65" and doesn't even seem to connect to backend.. | 01:02 |
| kulve | actually that's missing one / .. But it doesn't affect the situation.. | 01:03 |
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| MoRpHeUz | kulve: yeah...I think that only renatofilho_ can answer that right now..maybe they did some change in the last week that broke it =/ | 01:11 |
| kulve | MoRpHeUz: I haven't updated the svn trunk for a month.. | 01:12 |
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| MoRpHeUz | kulve: hhmm...maybe some bug fix is missing hehe =P | 01:26 |
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| kulve | yeah, I need to update tomorrow | 01:29 |
| kulve | it seems that that int() error is not from uri parsing.. | 01:30 |
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| kulve | I'll try more tomorrow, now I'm off to bed | 01:30 |
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| kulve | Could not resolve hostname `svn.sourceforge.net' | 01:31 |
| kulve | .. | 01:31 |
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| unique311 | pupnik, smc might be the jackpot... | 01:32 |
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| unique311 | going to upload the source so you can compile for 770 | 01:32 |
| pupnik | yaay! | 01:32 |
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| pupnik | this is turning into a very good week for gaming | 01:37 |
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| unique311 | yes, indeed | 01:38 |
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| unique311 | had to compile 1 dependency for it.. | 01:38 |
| unique311 | sdl_gfx | 01:38 |
| unique311 | going to redo everything. and package source for upload. | 01:38 |
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| unique311 | i think total fullscreen can be achieved with smw | 01:40 |
| unique311 | by modifying one of the source files | 01:41 |
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| unique311 | just got smc fullscreen.800x480 | 01:41 |
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| * codebx mentions how reliable the maemo.org site is | 01:47 | |
| milhouse | I'm sorry to say that Monkey has died - the hard drive just went on the linux server that was his home :( RIP Monkey... back as soon as I have sourced a new disk | 01:48 |
| pupnik | Goodbye monkey, we hardly knew ye... | 01:49 |
| milhouse | He'll be back... don't know when... | 01:49 |
| codebx | and some knew thou not at all :( | 01:49 |
| codebx | thee rofl | 01:49 |
| unique311 | you mean monkey wasn't real.... | 01:49 |
| unique311 | omg | 01:49 |
| pupnik | hehe :) | 01:50 |
| Sulis | ...what was monkey? | 01:50 |
| milhouse | I knew I should have used that IBM Deathstar hard disk I had lying around... it wasn't being used for a reason! ;) | 01:50 |
| pupnik | the wisdom, the generosity | 01:50 |
| milhouse | monkey == chat bot | 01:50 |
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| Sulis | ah-hah | 01:50 |
| milhouse | s/should/shoudn't/ | 01:50 |
| pupnik | deathstar lul | 01:50 |
| milhouse | aye... not well known for reliability | 01:51 |
| Sulis | yes, there has been a lull in deathstar production recently, not enough darth raider arrays around... | 01:51 |
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| milhouse | just going through my collection of hard disks... probably not a good idea to rebuild with an old fujitsu disk from 2000 of undetermined size | 01:53 |
| milhouse | might have to fork out for a big-ish Samsung... they're usually pretty reliable | 01:53 |
| pupnik | I just realize i have almost as many drives as old vhs cassettes | 01:53 |
| milhouse | vhs cassettes... sounds familiar... explain? are they like 8-track? | 01:54 |
| Sulis | 8 track? that sounds familiar...is that like betamax? | 01:54 |
| pupnik | my mom bought a svhs VCR two years ago >_< for $400 | 01:55 |
| Sulis | hehehe | 01:55 |
| Sulis | oops | 01:55 |
| codebx | what a deal | 01:55 |
| milhouse | wow... let me know if she wants any cassettes I can do a good deal | 01:55 |
| milhouse | best thing i ever did was get a TiVo in 2000... goodbye VHS | 01:56 |
| pupnik | those get their program lists off the internet? | 01:56 |
| milhouse | they can do | 01:56 |
| milhouse | the original Series 1 TiVos needed to be hacked to use the internet | 01:57 |
| milhouse | Series 2 and Series 3 TiVo have native support for ethernet and network downloads | 01:57 |
| unique311 | pupnik, http://www.divshare.com/download/1389464-87d | 01:58 |
| unique311 | if you can try to compile where you store the data file on mmc1 or mmc2 | 01:59 |
| unique311 | going to run different flags to try and get that done.. | 01:59 |
| Sulis | what is it? | 02:00 |
| unique311 | secret maryo chronicles source | 02:00 |
| unique311 | also place the SDL_gfx source | 02:01 |
| unique311 | will only compile ./configure --disable-mmx | 02:01 |
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| unique311 | the smc compile without no problems | 02:02 |
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| unique311 | did you get the link | 02:02 |
| pupnik_ | this channel has the most lurkers i've ever seen | 02:03 |
| pupnik_ | no | 02:03 |
| unique311 | pupnik_, http://www.divshare.com/download/1389464-87d | 02:03 |
| unique311 | 201 | 02:03 |
| * celesteh lurks | 02:03 | |
| unique311 | and at most 10 active | 02:03 |
| unique311 | lol | 02:03 |
| unique311 | hey | 02:03 |
| unique311 | pupnik, smc compile without the use of any flags | 02:04 |
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| unique311 | for the SDL_gfx ./configure --disable-mmx | 02:04 |
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| Sulis | is it better with SDL_gfx? | 02:05 |
| unique311 | it requires | 02:05 |
| unique311 | it | 02:05 |
| unique311 | the games looks good.. | 02:05 |
| Sulis | ah-hah | 02:05 |
| unique311 | its huge with the data files.. | 02:07 |
| pupnik_ | thanks unique311 | 02:07 |
| unique311 | 30 MB | 02:07 |
| Sulis | meh, i don't have the scratchbox on here at the moment anyway | 02:07 |
| pupnik_ | are you going to make a garage page for it? | 02:07 |
| unique311 | how can i throw the data files on mmc1 and have it work | 02:07 |
| unique311 | no | 02:07 |
| pupnik_ | where is the data? /usr/share/smc ? | 02:08 |
| pupnik_ | if so then move the smc dir to /media/mmc1/games/smc (or whatever) | 02:09 |
| pupnik_ | and then make a symbolic link from the /usr/share to the mmc card | 02:09 |
| pupnik_ | like for e.g. | 02:09 |
| unique311 | usr/local/share | 02:09 |
| unique311 | ok | 02:09 |
| pupnik_ | ln -s /media/mmc1/games/smc /usr/local/share/smc | 02:09 |
| unique311 | it should work? | 02:10 |
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| pupnik_ | yeah | 02:10 |
| unique311 | cool... | 02:10 |
| unique311 | going to see if it all works out.. | 02:10 |
| pupnik_ | make sure that the /usr/local/share/smc directory is deleted before doing the ln -s command | 02:11 |
| pupnik_ | hehe SecretMaemyo | 02:11 |
| unique311 | well i'm not on my device yet.. | 02:11 |
| unique311 | yeah | 02:11 |
| unique311 | its coined.. | 02:11 |
| unique311 | lol | 02:11 |
| unique311 | Secret Maemyo Chronicles.. | 02:12 |
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| pupnik_ | do i need to download data files? | 02:12 |
| unique311 | no | 02:12 |
| unique311 | all include | 02:12 |
| unique311 | you are right man.. | 02:13 |
| unique311 | 8 dls of the source already.. | 02:14 |
| unique311 | lurkers.. | 02:14 |
| codebx | lol | 02:15 |
| * codebx looks around guiltily | 02:15 | |
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| codebx | im eager to toy around with scratchbox and get some stuff going | 02:15 |
| codebx | i have no idea what i'm downloading from that divxshare site though | 02:16 |
| * celesteh wishes scratchbox could run on OS X | 02:16 | |
| pupnik_ | got a million errors running make in the SDL_gfx | 02:16 |
| codebx | i really like the sketchy theme | 02:16 |
| pupnik_ | /var/tmp/ccEeLEBF.s:4794: Error: bad instruction `movq (%esi),%mm1' | 02:16 |
| pupnik_ | /var/tmp/ccEeLEBF.s:4795: Error: bad instruction `movq %mm1,%mm2' | 02:16 |
| unique311 | did you run it with the flag | 02:17 |
| unique311 | --disable-mmx | 02:17 |
| pupnik_ | aah MAEMO_README -- heh oops | 02:17 |
| unique311 | lol | 02:17 |
| pupnik_ | il'l have to look at that SDL_gfx. It looks like something which could speed up other sdl games | 02:18 |
| pupnik_ | unique, did you install the SDL_gfx with "make install" after compiling? | 02:20 |
| unique311 | yes | 02:20 |
| unique311 | if it is not working.. | 02:20 |
| pupnik_ | checking for SDL_gfxPrimitives.h... no | 02:21 |
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| pupnik_ | not sure where those should go yet | 02:21 |
| unique311 | you need to run ./autogen.sh before running ./configure | 02:21 |
| unique311 | oh | 02:21 |
| unique311 | ldconfig | 02:21 |
| unique311 | SDL_gfxPrimitive installed in /usr/local/share | 02:22 |
| unique311 | somewhere its not being found.. | 02:22 |
| unique311 | you can move them to the correct folder.. | 02:22 |
| unique311 | which is /usr/include/SDL | 02:22 |
| unique311 | i remember having to do this | 02:23 |
| unique311 | i think it was installed in /usr/local/lib | 02:23 |
| unique311 | folder is /usr/local/included/SDL | 02:24 |
| unique311 | move the contents to or create a symlink to /usr/local/include/SDL | 02:25 |
| unique311 | go with moving the contents | 02:25 |
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| pupnik_ | ahh the headers went into /usr/local/include/SDL -- moved them to /usr/include/SDL | 02:27 |
| NeoStrider | hey pupnik | 02:28 |
| NeoStrider | im going to test smw now! | 02:28 |
| pupnik_ | same deal with the libraries - thx unique311 | 02:28 |
| unique311 | np | 02:28 |
| NeoStrider | so, whats new? | 02:28 |
| unique311 | smc | 02:29 |
| pupnik_ | i haven't gotten the .desktop or the maemo-games-startup integration for smw yet | 02:29 |
| pupnik_ | compiling unique311's smc :)) | 02:30 |
| NeoStrider | unique311, its smw | 02:32 |
| NeoStrider | but if there is a smc too, i would love to test it | 02:32 |
| NeoStrider | pupnik_, and SDL_mixer? | 02:32 |
| pupnik_ | unique311 ok now i have the executable 514368 Jul 28 00:32 smc | 02:32 |
| unique311 | wow | 02:32 |
| unique311 | in scratchbox... | 02:33 |
| unique311 | it runs? | 02:33 |
| pupnik_ | you said it's 30 MB of data? | 02:33 |
| pupnik_ | i only see 8812 data | 02:33 |
| unique311 | not sure | 02:34 |
| unique311 | it was pretty big | 02:34 |
| unique311 | maybe newer version of data | 02:35 |
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| unique311 | you right.. | 02:35 |
| NeoStrider | installing smw_data | 02:35 |
| unique311 | 8MB | 02:35 |
| pupnik_ | ok it runs - how do you enter a level? | 02:37 |
| unique311 | in scratchbox? | 02:37 |
| unique311 | or device | 02:37 |
| pupnik_ | yeah "return" key goes to next level | 02:38 |
| unique311 | on device? | 02:38 |
| pupnik_ | in sb | 02:38 |
| unique311 | ok | 02:38 |
| NeoStrider | pupnik_ ,64 MB of virtual memory for a 770 is enough (smw)? | 02:38 |
| pupnik_ | yes | 02:38 |
| pupnik_ | Could not load Level : data/levels/yuki_1.txt | 02:38 |
| unique311 | hopefully smc plays nice with memory... | 02:38 |
| pupnik_ | hmm | 02:38 |
| unique311 | make sure the its in the directory | 02:39 |
| pupnik_ | yeah the stuff in /usr/local/share/smc looks kind of in the wrong place | 02:40 |
| unique311 | it is.. | 02:40 |
| unique311 | make install is supposedly broken.. | 02:40 |
| NeoStrider | you two are mario fanatics, right? | 02:40 |
| NeoStrider | (running smw...) | 02:41 |
| NeoStrider | running! \o/ | 02:41 |
| pupnik_ | no not a fanatic | 02:41 |
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| unique311 | its looking for them in the source folder | 02:42 |
| unique311 | i ran smc from the src folder, so thats why i didn't come across that error | 02:42 |
| pupnik_ | ah | 02:42 |
| unique311 | hmm... | 02:42 |
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| NeoStrider | WOW! VERY FAST!!!! | 02:45 |
| NeoStrider | and...btw...770 keypad sucks hehhe | 02:45 |
| pupnik_ | ok unique311 it was looking for the data from the current directory you're right | 02:45 |
| pupnik_ | yep NeoStrider :) | 02:45 |
| pupnik_ | this is excellent unique311 | 02:45 |
| unique311 | all that needs to be fixed.. | 02:46 |
| pupnik_ | the controls are relaly good | 02:46 |
| pupnik_ | how is the scrolling speed on the n800? | 02:46 |
| pupnik_ | i think i am inlove with SDL_gfx | 02:46 |
| NeoStrider | me too | 02:47 |
| unique311 | lol | 02:47 |
| NeoStrider | I use it extensivly | 02:47 |
| pupnik_ | aha! | 02:47 |
| unique311 | think smc will be much better. its an adventure type game. | 02:47 |
| pupnik_ | so i can ask you for help with it | 02:47 |
| unique311 | saw it on scratchbox and it looks really nice | 02:48 |
| pupnik_ | NeoStrider: what is the main advantage of SDL_gfx? fast layering/transparency/ | 02:48 |
| NeoStrider | the main advantage? not needing to code everything =-P | 02:49 |
| NeoStrider | its faster than the others | 02:49 |
| NeoStrider | but yeah, it has everything | 02:49 |
| NeoStrider | im using it for both 3D and 2D stuff | 02:49 |
| NeoStrider | even for fading routines | 02:49 |
| pupnik_ | ok well now comes the big test smc on 770 | 02:50 |
| NeoStrider | and keesj indeed used it for maemo-xmoto | 02:50 |
| NeoStrider | to replace opengl | 02:50 |
| pupnik_ | cool cool | 02:50 |
| NeoStrider | I want to test that too =-) | 02:50 |
| pupnik_ | well credit to unique311 for making this run on the tablets! | 02:51 |
| pupnik_ | and finding smw | 02:51 |
| unique311 | smc....maybe..spend a good day on this thing.. | 02:51 |
| pupnik_ | a lot of these games are obscure and hard to find | 02:51 |
| unique311 | google.. | 02:51 |
| unique311 | i love google. | 02:51 |
| NeoStrider | unique311, so far, the best 3rd party game for the tablet! | 02:52 |
| unique311 | just broke xterm | 02:53 |
| unique311 | deleted a file i wasn't suppose to.. | 02:53 |
| unique311 | feck | 02:53 |
| unique311 | which smw | 02:53 |
| unique311 | i think smc might beat that | 02:53 |
| NeoStrider | dunno | 02:53 |
| NeoStrider | but smw is pratical | 02:54 |
| NeoStrider | is a instant game | 02:54 |
| pupnik_ | yep | 02:54 |
| NeoStrider | smc seem to be a more strategical (you will need to think a lot with those keypads =-P) | 02:54 |
| unique311 | computer keeps kicking my ass | 02:54 |
| unique311 | don't like it much | 02:54 |
| pupnik_ | you can set difficulty down | 02:54 |
| pupnik_ | i had to | 02:54 |
| pupnik_ | under gameplay | 02:54 |
| unique311 | if you have to go lower than defualt.. | 02:55 |
| pupnik_ | i also limited fps to about 50 | 02:55 |
| unique311 | no reason in playing the game | 02:55 |
| unique311 | sound still works with the fps change? | 02:55 |
| pupnik_ | hey i started playing doom on "I can win" :) | 02:55 |
| pupnik_ | yeah but music is broken | 02:55 |
| pupnik_ | NeoStrider: do you get continuous music playback without errors? | 02:55 |
| NeoStrider | oops....smw game a error | 02:55 |
| pupnik_ | i get errors loading song | 02:55 |
| NeoStrider | no...no music at all | 02:55 |
| pupnik_ | ok same here - sdl has music loading/playback routines and it says format not recognized here | 02:56 |
| NeoStrider | x terminal: Error Loading Music: Module format not recognized | 02:56 |
| unique311 | the file are ogg | 02:56 |
| unique311 | maybe you need to install the libvorbis and all the other ogg stuff | 02:57 |
| pupnik_ | original game does not have those dependencies | 02:57 |
| unique311 | all the music files are ogg | 02:57 |
| NeoStrider | why dont you produce a thinner version without music? I guess the 770 cant handle it anyway | 02:57 |
| unique311 | but can the n800 or the 770 do ogg without the libraries? | 02:57 |
| pupnik_ | i think the answer is in SDL_mixer | 02:58 |
| NeoStrider | no | 02:59 |
| NeoStrider | the DSP only gets mp3 and aac, I guess | 02:59 |
| NeoStrider | and of course, wave | 02:59 |
| NeoStrider | im going to use low quality wave for angstron | 02:59 |
| NeoStrider | smaller download sizes | 02:59 |
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| unique311 | make new music file | 03:00 |
| unique311 | s | 03:00 |
| unique311 | and hope for the best | 03:00 |
| NeoStrider | for me, smw is just fine | 03:01 |
| NeoStrider | when Im using the 770, Im always listening to some music anyway | 03:01 |
| NeoStrider | but, did smw passed the "home key" test? | 03:01 |
| pupnik_ | i don't think any sdl games do | 03:02 |
| pupnik_ | out-of-the-box | 03:03 |
| NeoStrider | no | 03:03 |
| NeoStrider | well | 03:03 |
| NeoStrider | angstron does pass it...sometimes | 03:03 |
| pupnik_ | ah - you make some kind of gtk wrapper around the sdl window? | 03:05 |
| NeoStrider | maemo-games-startup? | 03:06 |
| pupnik_ | yeah ok | 03:08 |
| pupnik_ | unique311: i get about - guessing 12-15 fps in smc | 03:08 |
| unique311 | cant get it working | 03:09 |
| unique311 | got my libraries all screwed.. | 03:09 |
| unique311 | send me your sdl_gfx | 03:09 |
| NeoStrider | why dont you guys do like me? I included sdl_gfx on my source | 03:09 |
| pupnik_ | i had to manually put in libSDL_ttf, libSDL_gfx and (maybe) libphysfs | 03:11 |
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| unique311 | location? | 03:12 |
| NeoStrider | takes less work to the end user | 03:12 |
| pupnik_ | into /usr/lib on the device | 03:12 |
| pupnik_ | NeoStrider: makes sense!\ | 03:12 |
| pupnik_ | i can tar up those files but they were built under gregale | 03:12 |
| NeoStrider | internet tablets are not hackers only stuff anymore | 03:12 |
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| pupnik_ | right | 03:13 |
| pupnik_ | those install links on maemo.org are great | 03:13 |
| NeoStrider | yeah | 03:13 |
| pupnik_ | automagically add the correct repository etc - great iea | 03:13 |
| pupnik_ | idea | 03:13 |
| NeoStrider | how did you guys created that data deb for smw? | 03:13 |
| pupnik_ | dpkg-buildpackage creates it | 03:14 |
| NeoStrider | goood...right now, the user has to place the data files on /media/mmc1....ugly | 03:14 |
| NeoStrider | and to create a repository, whats needed? | 03:15 |
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| pupnik_ | i think a 20MB data .deb is a bad idea | 03:16 |
| pupnik_ | needs 40MB temp space on / while unpacking | 03:16 |
| NeoStrider | yeah, but if you look , most user data goes on mmc | 03:17 |
| pupnik_ | that's where the game data should go, IMO | 03:17 |
| NeoStrider | if .install could handle that, I would agree with you | 03:17 |
| NeoStrider | but right now, it cant =-( | 03:18 |
| pupnik_ | so i think for the final version, the location for game data should be user-selectable during install | 03:18 |
| pupnik_ | right | 03:18 |
| NeoStrider | im thinking about making two versions available | 03:18 |
| NeoStrider | one, very hackable, and other end-user-friendly | 03:18 |
| unique311 | mouse point in smc | 03:18 |
| NeoStrider | thats other point I would like to discuss | 03:19 |
| pupnik_ | did you rebuild the libs unique or still want them? | 03:19 |
| unique311 | i have them.. | 03:19 |
| NeoStrider | SDL_ShowCursor...with angstron, it takes about 5 seconds to work | 03:19 |
| unique311 | symlink was missig | 03:20 |
| NeoStrider | (if im getting annoying, please let me know =-P) | 03:20 |
| pupnik_ | no NeoStrider | 03:20 |
| NeoStrider | can you guys test the cursor thing and tell me? | 03:20 |
| pupnik_ | NeoStrider: the 'swirl' animations for respawning in smc are very slow for 770 - you can change that to "door" animation in settings - much much faster | 03:21 |
| NeoStrider | i still dont have smc! gimme the urls! | 03:22 |
| pupnik_ | http://www.divshare.com/download/1389464-87d | 03:22 |
| pupnik_ | can i test tomorrow NeoStrider ? | 03:23 |
| unique311 | How did you get pass the could not load level errors on the device pupnik_ | 03:23 |
| NeoStrider | sure | 03:23 |
| NeoStrider | no hurry | 03:23 |
| NeoStrider | not primary issue anyway | 03:23 |
| NeoStrider | the radar screen is my main concern now | 03:23 |
| pupnik_ | unique311: i put the smc in my /home/user then i did ln -s /usr/local/share/smc/data data | 03:24 |
| NeoStrider | instructions? | 03:24 |
| unique311 | k | 03:24 |
| NeoStrider | put it on /home/user and chmod? | 03:24 |
| pupnik_ | this build of smc wants the level data in $pwd/data/levels | 03:24 |
| NeoStrider | much better =-) | 03:25 |
| NeoStrider | i will put it on ~/MyDocs/.documents | 03:25 |
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| NeoStrider | what OS versions you guys tried smc? | 03:26 |
| pupnik_ | 2006 2.2 | 03:26 |
| pupnik_ | hmm no music oggs here | 03:26 |
| unique311 | NeoStrider, latest | 03:28 |
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| NeoStrider | mine too | 03:28 |
| NeoStrider | N800 had music? | 03:29 |
| unique311 | still struggling with data | 03:29 |
| pupnik_ | no the music .oggs are missing from the tgz | 03:29 |
| pupnik_ | but i'm not getting the ogg sound effects, which are here | 03:30 |
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| unique311 | you need to dl those from sourceforge | 03:31 |
| unique311 | not sure if i included the music folder | 03:31 |
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| NeoStrider | "link not found" | 03:33 |
| NeoStrider | smc is a symlink...not a binary...I feel stupid | 03:33 |
| unique311 | search for secret maryo chronicles at sourceforge | 03:33 |
| NeoStrider | I saw the screenshows | 03:34 |
| NeoStrider | shots | 03:34 |
| NeoStrider | very nice | 03:34 |
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| NeoStrider | well fellows...ill be working on angstron...if you want to say or ask anything, say my name...3 times....beetlejuice...beetlejuice...BEETLEJUICE! | 03:37 |
| pupnik_ | ok cheers NeoStrider | 03:38 |
| NeoStrider | cheers =-) | 03:38 |
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| pupnik_ | unique311: pls fix so that we get sound and music :) | 03:46 |
| unique311 | i can't get it to run on my device... | 03:47 |
| unique311 | lol | 03:47 |
| unique311 | i suck | 03:47 |
| pupnik_ | what does it complain about? | 03:47 |
| pupnik_ | i had to make a "data" directory and move the levels into that | 03:48 |
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| unique311 | couldn't open overworlds description file : /smc/share/sms/world/workds.txt | 03:48 |
| unique311 | i compile smc with --prefix=/smc | 03:48 |
| unique311 | think that was my error | 03:48 |
| pupnik_ | oh | 03:48 |
| unique311 | gonna compile with no flags.. | 03:48 |
| unique311 | tried all sorts of symlinks.. | 03:48 |
| unique311 | non want to work | 03:49 |
| pupnik_ | mine ended up in /usr/local/share/smc/world/ | 03:49 |
| pupnik_ | with no flags | 03:49 |
| unique311 | only 7mb | 03:49 |
| pupnik_ | ok i'll try to find out why smw and smc music isn't playing | 03:49 |
| unique311 | ogg | 03:50 |
| unique311 | maybe you should ask nymh at#secretmaryo | 03:50 |
| unique311 | i got some compiling to do | 03:50 |
| pupnik_ | ok | 03:50 |
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| disq | gah. i deleted a file (ext3fs, raid0+1) and the diskspace won't come back | 03:54 |
| disq | (want my missing 30gig back) | 03:54 |
| derf | disq: Does some process still have it open? | 03:55 |
| disq | there's an in-use loop module and a [loop0] process but it doesn't show up in mount output (the file was a diskimage) | 03:56 |
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| derf | At 30GB, I guessed. | 03:57 |
| unique311 | pupnik...with the music folder it is 30+mb | 03:57 |
| unique311 | 37 to be exact | 03:57 |
| pupnik | yeah the bigmusic | 03:58 |
| codebx | the n800 email prog is kind of gay | 03:58 |
| codebx | i can't believe i couldnt have it store my emails on my sd card | 03:59 |
| codebx | if there was ever a time i felt like kung fu fighting, it'd be right now | 03:59 |
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| pupnik | derf, do you know if the serial port on the 770 (n800?) is always active? | 04:03 |
| derf | codebx: I can't even get it to check my mailbox. | 04:03 |
| derf | pupnik: No idea. | 04:03 |
| derf | codebx: It fills up RAM until it crashes. | 04:03 |
| derf | And then reboots the device. | 04:03 |
| * pupnik is imagining a dirty hardware hack for dpad and rhs buttons tied to 5v and connecting to a few pins on the serial device :D | 04:05 | |
| codebx | lol | 04:08 |
| codebx | im downloading that claws email client from maemo | 04:08 |
| codebx | but i really like the notification thing that's set up on the left hand side of the screen when you get new email (the two people flash) | 04:09 |
| codebx | kind of a shame the email client needs work | 04:09 |
| derf | I wouldn't know. | 04:09 |
| codebx | =[ | 04:09 |
| derf | I've never been notified of new mail. | 04:09 |
| codebx | lol | 04:10 |
| codebx | well, you're not missing much anyways | 04:10 |
| derf | I just use webmail. | 04:10 |
| codebx | yeah i just like to have stuff stored locally sometimes | 04:10 |
| codebx | since i only have a wifi connection at home normally | 04:10 |
| codebx | ill tell you if the claws email prog is any good | 04:11 |
| disq | huh. i love microsoft. why. virtualpc saved my crashed vmware image. which had lots of data and sourcecode and which the last backup is dated 2005 (ouch) | 04:15 |
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| pupnik | lardman|gone: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/24295 some talk about Jazelle and GDB | 04:27 |
| bmidgley | is there still no audio player for n800 that can do bookmarks? | 04:31 |
| pupnik | can you explain what that is? | 04:32 |
| disq | bmidgley: soon. not too soon though | 04:32 |
| bmidgley | pupnik: for audio books... if you quit the player it remembers where you were | 04:34 |
| acydlord | lol, did you guys know the n800 has a myspace profile? | 04:35 |
| bmidgley | he's more popular than that shady 770 character | 04:35 |
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| acydlord | indeed | 04:36 |
| acydlord | vastly more popular than that tom fellow | 04:36 |
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| zorb_ | can someone tell me how to send enter key press with vnc viewer? | 04:48 |
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| pupnik | what device is running vnc viewer? | 04:49 |
| zorb_ | im running (.6?) on n800 | 04:50 |
| zorb_ | need to login to a suse box. need to send enter. :/ | 04:50 |
| pupnik | does the center button on the dpad send enter? | 04:50 |
| zorb_ | i try.. | 04:50 |
| zorb_ | no it brings up the giant keyboard | 04:51 |
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| zorb_ | kind of a strange thing to leave out. there is line feed in the giant keyboard but its not sending as a keypress. | 04:53 |
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| trevarthan | disq: MS lover. | 04:54 |
| trevarthan | disq: what happened man? Disk failure? | 04:55 |
| disq | trevarthan: during a clean reboot, vmware decided to kill the disk image | 04:56 |
| trevarthan | wow. never had that happen before. | 04:57 |
| disq | every vmware tool i tried (all of which share the same codebase of course) were exiting with the same error code | 04:57 |
| trevarthan | you weren't running the image from your n800's external sd slot, were ya? :) | 04:57 |
| zorb_ | waa. well maybe ill file a bug report. if i can find where to send one. | 04:57 |
| disq | then i found a virtual pc image converter and converted away. | 04:58 |
| disq | heh. if it didn't work my next step was going to be turning the diskimage into raw and paying the namesys guys for fsck/fix | 04:58 |
| trevarthan | you been working on that all day, eh? | 04:59 |
| trevarthan | that's a shame. | 04:59 |
| zorb_ | n800 can be a vmware host?? | 04:59 |
| trevarthan | no. I was making fun of a bug. | 05:00 |
| trevarthan | sdhc bug? | 05:00 |
| trevarthan | _Monkey! | 05:00 |
| disq | i was waiting on that all day | 05:00 |
| disq | 30gig imagefile, not enough space on the host machine, copied over to some other boxes etc | 05:00 |
| trevarthan | yeah. that sucks. Well, I'm glad you got it working again. :) | 05:01 |
| disq | i could've gone to the isp and plugged in another hdd and it would've been faster. but then i wouldn't have time to relax and plan my next step | 05:01 |
| pupnik | zorb_: see this bug report https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=269&group_id=119&atid=505 | 05:02 |
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| trevarthan | who owns _Monkey, btw? | 05:02 |
| pupnik | i think milhouse | 05:02 |
| trevarthan | ah | 05:02 |
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| trevarthan | disq: I watched one of those videos. He's a funny guy. | 05:04 |
| disq | yeah | 05:04 |
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| trevarthan | gstreamer sucks. They say I'm supposed to look for EOS (instead of EOF in mplayer), but it doesn't work half the time. | 05:06 |
| disq | did you check ukmp? | 05:06 |
| trevarthan | yeah. you know how konttori does it? | 05:07 |
| zorb_ | pupnik: bingo, thanks | 05:07 |
| trevarthan | he checks to see if last second = current second. :) | 05:07 |
| disq | :) | 05:07 |
| trevarthan | sadly, I think that's the only way that works. | 05:08 |
| disq | what happens if you miss the EOS? | 05:08 |
| trevarthan | It sits there, indefinitely. | 05:08 |
| disq | does it sit there silently, or garbage etc? | 05:08 |
| disq | ah, ok | 05:08 |
| trevarthan | It keeps crashing on me too. I think konttori found ways around that too though. I couldn't get UKMP to crash on the hour long car ride home. | 05:09 |
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| trevarthan | It's kinda cool when it works. Much faster switching songs than mplayer. And less CPU, I think. But I just wish it wasn't so picky. | 05:10 |
| disq | you could also use osso-mediaserver but if you hit a bug there's no way to fix it anytime soon :) | 05:10 |
| disq | there's a dbus method you can call to get it to play a file, and some other callbacks to get position and length | 05:11 |
| trevarthan | huh. neato. I'll do that if I can't get gst to stop crashing, but I figure I can fix it even if I have to copy every line from UKMP. :) | 05:12 |
| disq | i have the method to call somewhere, and i posted the getposition thingy to bugzilla (search for "mediaserver dbus") | 05:12 |
| disq | (or "dbus api") | 05:12 |
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| unique311 | speed is good on the n800 | 05:22 |
| trevarthan | speed? | 05:23 |
| codebx | speed the movie? | 05:24 |
| codebx | the speed isn't absolutely terrible but | 05:24 |
| codebx | i could probably draw the frames of movies faster than they play embedded in the browser | 05:24 |
| unique311 | secret maryo | 05:24 |
| trevarthan | I'm so annoyed. We've had MP3s for how long? 15 years? And there still isn't a single player for linux that gets MP3 length correct with VBR MP3s. | 05:40 |
| trevarthan | Everyone says they have it working in CVS, or SVN, or some side project. I don't believe them. And even if I did it doesn't help me any. | 05:40 |
| unique311 | pupnik, SMW sound packs are all wav...SMC on the other hand are ogg... | 05:42 |
| pupnik | Yes, we might end up just transcoding effects to wav and music to mp3 and running that through gstreamer-dsp | 05:44 |
| disq | we've had mp3's for around 10 years i think | 05:44 |
| unique311 | the sound effects on smw work. | 05:44 |
| pupnik | yeah they're wav | 05:44 |
| unique311 | i just found some ogg in smw...music folder | 05:45 |
| unique311 | level music | 05:45 |
| pupnik | I don't believe you're hearing those oggs in-game | 05:46 |
| unique311 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS9PxxfNYOA | 05:46 |
| unique311 | i'm not hearing the ogg. just the sound effects of when i jump or hit something with my head. | 05:47 |
| pupnik | right | 05:47 |
| unique311 | those are the wav files | 05:47 |
| pupnik | i got killed on level 2 btw | 05:47 |
| pupnik | i suck :) | 05:47 |
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| unique311 | the speed is descent right | 05:48 |
| trevarthan | which game are you guys playing? | 05:48 |
| pupnik | btw i think the 770 is as fast as your 800 on smc | 05:48 |
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| unique311 | the video shows off secret maryo chronicles | 05:48 |
| pupnik | Secret Maryo World | 05:48 |
| unique311 | and also world | 05:48 |
| trevarthan | Super Mario World? | 05:48 |
| pupnik | Secret Maryo Chronicles :P | 05:48 |
| trevarthan | oh... coool. | 05:50 |
| trevarthan | I wanna play | 05:50 |
| pupnik | pupnik.de/smw.html | 05:50 |
| trevarthan | dammit. I locked up gst. How the heck do I get it to work again now? | 05:50 |
| pupnik | the other one isn't packaged yet | 05:50 |
| unique311 | now to figure out how to get sound working | 05:51 |
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| unique311 | pupnik, the music folder is supposed to be dl seperate for smc | 05:52 |
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| trevarthan | I'm going to have to fricking reboot now. geez. | 05:53 |
| trevarthan | anyone here have an xbox 360? I need to let out some frustration on gears. | 05:55 |
| trevarthan | I hate rebooting. I'm always terrified it won't come back up after I got the white screen that one time. | 05:57 |
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| trevarthan | And of course canola and osso-media feel obligated to scan for new media on boot. so I have to go killing processes and stuff. what a pain. | 05:58 |
| pupnik | that's intended behavior? | 05:58 |
| pupnik | <groin kick> | 05:59 |
| trevarthan | metalayer-crawler can't be killed either. restarts itself. | 05:59 |
| unique311 | pupnik, ogg.garage.maemo.org | 05:59 |
| trevarthan | just have to wait for like 10 minutes. ugh. | 05:59 |
| trevarthan | off to kill some Locusts. BBL. | 06:00 |
| pupnik | you could edit rc2.d or whatever | 06:00 |
| pupnik | ok cyu | 06:00 |
| pupnik | oh man unique311 ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ-gdhWRcW0&NR | 06:01 |
| pupnik | the sounds... :/ not so good | 06:01 |
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| unique311 | lol | 06:03 |
| unique311 | definitely need an upgrade | 06:04 |
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| unique311 | error Loading Music: Module format not recognized....M3_Boss.ogg | 06:25 |
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| disq | trevarthan: chmod a-x /etc/init.d/metalayer-crawler0 | 06:29 |
| disq | trevarthan: also having sardine or another os2007 on mmc helps with that reboot feeling. since i got sardine on mmc i'm not worried to break stuff (system libs, config files, init scripts, all that) | 06:31 |
| NeoStrider | unique311, im watching the video....very funny! | 06:34 |
| NeoStrider | sound like modified supertux | 06:35 |
| NeoStrider | and I actually liked some of the sounds | 06:37 |
| unique311 | you change those ogg files to something the n800 recognize.i | 06:37 |
| unique311 | yeah the sound effects are bad | 06:37 |
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| NeoStrider | no | 06:38 |
| NeoStrider | I actually liked some of them | 06:38 |
| NeoStrider | like the death sound heheh | 06:38 |
| pupnik | it's like open-source games where the graphics artist can't create consistent looking visuals | 06:38 |
| pupnik | same goes for sounds. commercial games have a consistent style in sounds | 06:38 |
| NeoStrider | some of FreeDoom graphics are like this | 06:38 |
| NeoStrider | but they are correcting it | 06:38 |
| unique311 | so with ogg not working...any ideas on how to get sound going | 06:38 |
| NeoStrider | wave? | 06:39 |
| pupnik | change fx to wav | 06:39 |
| NeoStrider | some good wave compression | 06:39 |
| pupnik | less cpu too | 06:39 |
| unique311 | the size of the package will increase, no? | 06:39 |
| NeoStrider | the DSP will handle it | 06:39 |
| pupnik | or change them to wav on load | 06:39 |
| NeoStrider | if you do it carefully,no | 06:39 |
| pupnik | dsp will handle what | 06:39 |
| NeoStrider | dsp will handle compressed wave, I guess | 06:40 |
| pupnik | i converted Exult to use gstreamer DSP mp3 music | 06:40 |
| NeoStrider | you dont need stereo for this kind of sfx | 06:40 |
| pupnik | right | 06:40 |
| NeoStrider | and you can safely use 22Khz | 06:40 |
| NeoStrider | 8bit or 16bit...thats something you will have to try | 06:40 |
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| unique311 | not rushing. | 06:41 |
| NeoStrider | that will save a lot of space | 06:42 |
| NeoStrider | do you know a linux (preferably gtk) app for doing this downsample? | 06:45 |
| pupnik | sox | 06:45 |
| trevarthan | audacity? | 06:46 |
| trevarthan | my personal favorite. | 06:46 |
| trevarthan | but yeah, for bulk, sox. | 06:46 |
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| NeoStrider | audacity? | 06:46 |
| NeoStrider | i use audacity, but couldnt find how to do it | 06:46 |
| NeoStrider | where? | 06:46 |
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| trevarthan | how to downsample? | 06:47 |
| NeoStrider | yeah | 06:47 |
| NeoStrider | how to make it mono and downsample it? | 06:47 |
| trevarthan | you just set the project rate. | 06:47 |
| trevarthan | lower left corner on my version | 06:48 |
| NeoStrider | right! | 06:48 |
| NeoStrider | i never saw that! | 06:48 |
| disq | trevarthan: should we rename the project to kaju? :P | 06:49 |
| trevarthan | not sure about mono. it's got recording settings in edit->prefs->Audio IO. But that wouldn't convert to mono. just record mono. | 06:50 |
| trevarthan | :) yeah, maybe | 06:50 |
| NeoStrider | unique311: a 191Kb OGG music , using 22Khz , 16 bit mono, went to 1.3 MB | 06:50 |
| NeoStrider | not that small, but not that big | 06:50 |
| trevarthan | _Monkey | 06:50 |
| NeoStrider | for short files, if you play nice, you can get some good sizes | 06:50 |
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| trevarthan | disq: I think gst might be ready for use. Just gotta re-wire the buttons now. | 06:51 |
| disq | i'll try and make the repeat mode changes sometime, (one of my nameservers still down) possibly before the release | 06:52 |
| disq | canola doesn't have a repeat mode, ukmp's is crappy, etc | 06:53 |
| trevarthan | k. I'll jump on those ukmp-scanner changes next. Then it's release time! woo! | 06:53 |
| disq | have you applied for a garage project? i can apply too if you want | 06:54 |
| trevarthan | no, I haven't. if you want to, it would save me some time. | 06:54 |
| disq | it's trivial because i want to sign and upload the debs to extras. mm, tho, don't need a project page for that | 06:54 |
| disq | ok i'll now. waiting for innodb-backup to finish | 06:55 |
| trevarthan | do we have the deps correct? i.e. Python 2.5? no mplayer dep now... | 06:55 |
| disq | i didn't check lately, should be. we'll check when it's time to release | 06:56 |
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| pupnik | unique311: pupnik.de/SecretMaemyo_Sounds_mono_22khz_wav.tgz | 07:00 |
| unique311 | they work? | 07:02 |
| unique311 | how did you get them done so fast | 07:02 |
| pupnik | i used oggdec to decode them all and sox to convert them all to 22khz mono | 07:03 |
| pupnik | testing now | 07:03 |
| disq | trevarthan: applied. as soon as it's verified i'll add you as leader | 07:06 |
| trevarthan | ok. cool. thanks. | 07:06 |
| pupnik | btw playing one of those original wav files with mplayer caused my X screen to draw all kinds of trippy stuff | 07:10 |
| pupnik | *behind* the current terminal window | 07:11 |
| disq | trevarthan: "self.seconds = int(value / 1000000000)", that 10^x should be gst.SECOND i think | 07:11 |
| trevarthan | sweet. | 07:12 |
| disq | there's also gst.MSECOND for milliseconds iirc | 07:12 |
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| unique311 | check it out | 07:14 |
| unique311 | could not load 16-bit audio device | 07:14 |
| unique311 | reason no available audio device | 07:14 |
| pupnik | in scratchbox? | 07:14 |
| unique311 | no | 07:14 |
| unique311 | on device | 07:14 |
| unique311 | in scratchbox it said something about alsa | 07:15 |
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| unique311 | in scratchbox the error is.. | 07:16 |
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| unique311 | ASLA lib pcm.c:2061(snd_pcm_open_conf) cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa_lib/libsound_module_pcm_also_dsp.so | 07:17 |
| unique311 | followed by warning : Could not init 16-bit Audio | 07:17 |
| unique311 | - Reason : no available audio device | 07:18 |
| pupnik | aha | 07:18 |
| unique311 | mario war is using correct code.. | 07:19 |
| unique311 | can't we just steal the sound portion of war and make it work with chronicles | 07:20 |
| pupnik | probably | 07:20 |
| pupnik | sounds work here though :) | 07:22 |
| pupnik | woop, not every one though | 07:23 |
| unique311 | hmmm | 07:23 |
| unique311 | how did you make that happen? | 07:24 |
| pupnik | i changed the .ogg to .wav in the source, where it was playing sound files | 07:24 |
| unique311 | which game? | 07:24 |
| pupnik | smc | 07:24 |
| unique311 | i did the same and no sound | 07:25 |
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| pupnik | no ideas yet | 07:26 |
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| pupnik | if you go to 0.97/src and do a grep SOUNDS_DIR *.cpp you should have all the pAudio->PlaySound( SOUNDS_DIR "/beep_1.wav" ); as wavs | 07:28 |
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| pupnik | this is probably the first side-scroller game i've seen on the nokia that runs at decent framerate | 07:32 |
| pupnik | unique311: do you want to test this version and see if it works on n800? | 07:34 |
| pupnik | maybe there's something about libSDL that's different on bora? | 07:34 |
| disq | i'm off to bed, night | 07:34 |
| pupnik | cheers disq | 07:34 |
| unique311 | i'm using 97 | 07:35 |
| trevarthan | disq: Feels so good to get this off my plate: https://www.guardiani.us/projects/kagu/changeset/248 | 07:35 |
| trevarthan | night disq | 07:35 |
| unique311 | pupnik, let me get your version... | 07:36 |
| unique311 | forgot mario war is also the one you compiled.. | 07:36 |
| unique311 | and i get sound of it | 07:36 |
| pupnik | pupnik.de/smc.tgz | 07:37 |
| unique311 | going to need the data files | 07:39 |
| pupnik | pupnik.de/SecretMaemyo_Sounds_mono_22khz_wav.tgz | 07:39 |
| unique311 | the complete data folder | 07:40 |
| unique311 | including the maps.. | 07:40 |
| pupnik | ok | 07:41 |
| unique311 | i compiled my datadir with a different flag.. | 07:41 |
| unique311 | not sure you smc binary is going to work with it.. | 07:41 |
| pupnik | just make a symlink | 07:42 |
| pupnik | ln -s path-to-your-data/smc /usr/local/share/smc | 07:43 |
| unique311 | not working for me..... | 07:43 |
| pupnik | then you have a path-to.../smc/data directory | 07:44 |
| pupnik | and in the data directory you have your levels directory | 07:44 |
| pupnik | ls -l /usr/local/share/smc/data/levels | 07:44 |
| pupnik | -rwxr-xr-x 1 user root 12646 Jul 27 13:51 all.txt | 07:44 |
| pupnik | -rwxr-xr-x 1 user root 44641 Jul 27 13:51 boder_1.txt | 07:44 |
| pupnik | and when i cd to /usr/local/share/smc && ls | 07:46 |
| pupnik | i see | 07:46 |
| pupnik | data font music pixmaps sounds world | 07:46 |
| pupnik | afk breakfast | 07:47 |
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| trevarthan | I just updated Kagu's FEATURES and screenshots, https://www.guardiani.us/projects/kagu/browser/trunk/FEATURES , https://www.guardiani.us/projects/kagu/wiki/ScreenShots if anyone is interested. We're hoping to make a 1.0 release sometime this weekend. :) | 08:02 |
| roundeye | where can i read about flashing my 770 | 08:02 |
| pupnik | thanks for the screenies trevarthan - everybody loves screenshots | 08:02 |
| pupnik | :) | 08:02 |
| trevarthan | np. just for you pupnik. :) | 08:03 |
| pupnik | that gets the covers from a public server? | 08:03 |
| pupnik | roundeye: there's a flashing howto on maemo.org | 08:04 |
| unique311 | kagu better than UKMP? | 08:04 |
| roundeye | i was looking with no luck | 08:04 |
| roundeye | i will look some more | 08:04 |
| trevarthan | yeah. it also pulls them from covers.jpg or folders.jpg if you've got 'em already from canola. | 08:04 |
| unique311 | that 13 album cover bug in UKMP sucks.. | 08:04 |
| pupnik | roundeye: http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithLinux | 08:04 |
| roundeye | thank you | 08:04 |
| unique311 | trevarthan, can kagu do the kinetic scrolling thingie? | 08:05 |
| trevarthan | I'm certainly in competition with UKMP. We have a different feature set. | 08:05 |
| trevarthan | Yeah, kinetic scrolling was in Kagu before UKMP, actually. | 08:05 |
| unique311 | any album cover issues? | 08:05 |
| trevarthan | not that I'm aware of. Other than memory limitations. | 08:06 |
| unique311 | does it come in black? | 08:06 |
| trevarthan | Kagu uses a lot more RAM than UKMP. I hope to fix that in the future. | 08:06 |
| trevarthan | not yet. Hoping to get some theme authors on board. | 08:06 |
| trevarthan | I suck with graphics. | 08:06 |
| unique311 | ok... | 08:06 |
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| trevarthan | I'm still playing catch up to UKMP in a lot of areas also. I'm hoping to have a full multi-row scroll widget a few releases from now, in addition to the detail widget you see in the screen shots. | 08:07 |
| unique311 | i'll give the Kagu a shot.. | 08:08 |
| unique311 | meaning behind the name? | 08:08 |
| trevarthan | cool. let us (me and disq) know if you like it. Yeah, Kagu is an endangered bird. But, if it were an acronym (it's not), it would stand for Kagu Ardently Granulates Ukmp, because Kagu is | 08:09 |
| trevarthan | a rewrite of ukmp with a heavy focus on object oriented design. | 08:09 |
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| trevarthan | I also plan to implement bookmarking support for audio books in the near future, even if I have to rewrite mplayer to do it. :) | 08:11 |
| unique311 | I download billboards top 100 of the year | 08:11 |
| unique311 | in UKMP only 30 shows up.. | 08:11 |
| trevarthan | but most people probably aren't too interested in audio books. | 08:11 |
| unique311 | the rest of the songs are mia | 08:11 |
| trevarthan | right. no scrolling in the song list | 08:11 |
| pupnik | did you see that i had a wav file here that screwed up mplayer/X? it was awesome | 08:11 |
| trevarthan | Kagu scrolls. | 08:11 |
| unique311 | cool | 08:11 |
| trevarthan | pupnik: no, I must have missed that. :) I'm not surprised. | 08:12 |
| unique311 | then again when that new canola hit.... | 08:12 |
| trevarthan | yeah, I fully expect Kagu to be obsoleted by the new canola. But I don't think it'll be out for a while. | 08:14 |
| pupnik | the people doing media players for the tablets are doing great work | 08:14 |
| pupnik | oh i'm sure you can find your niche vs canola | 08:14 |
| trevarthan | Then again, I also don't expect canola to do A2DP. I think Kagu may be the only A2DP player for quite a while. The mplayer/a2dpd process management is rather tricky. It took me a while to get it right. | 08:15 |
| pupnik | is it true that only one bluetooth device can be paired at a time? | 08:15 |
| trevarthan | Crap, songs are prematurely skipping to the next song after a certain amount of time with the new GST code. I'll have to fix that later today. Gotta get some sleep for now. | 08:16 |
| pupnik | domez bien trevarthan | 08:16 |
| trevarthan | unique311: If you run into that bug, don't worry, I'll get it fixed. | 08:16 |
| unique311 | k | 08:17 |
| trevarthan | cya pupnik. Keep up the good work with Maryo. Can't wait to play that later today. :) | 08:17 |
| pupnik | unique311: was the guy who got it runnig - i just did the sound files | 08:17 |
| pupnik | and they SUCK | 08:17 |
| trevarthan | :) | 08:18 |
| pupnik | unique311: what do you think about using the sounds from smw instead? | 08:18 |
| unique311 | better | 08:18 |
| unique311 | original mario | 08:18 |
| cesman | trevarthan: rest well | 08:19 |
| cesman | keep up the good work! | 08:19 |
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| roundeye | ok so i flashed my 770 and i went just like it said it would in the howto except it whole time it just a had white screen with light grew bars..... anyone herd of @#$% like this | 08:23 |
| roundeye | this was the problem in the first place and why i was flashing. i had it 5 days and then i turned it on and it had the distored display | 08:25 |
| pupnik | were they horizontal bars moving down the screen? | 08:25 |
| pupnik | slowly | 08:25 |
| roundeye | at first but now after flashing it they stay still | 08:26 |
| roundeye | it is moving a little bit now that i look closly | 08:27 |
| pupnik | you had the device turned off, you started the flasher, then turned the device on and held the home key down while turning it on? | 08:27 |
| roundeye | yes | 08:27 |
| roundeye | when i let it boot up now with the distorted screen it made some nosies just like the firdt time i turned it on | 08:28 |
| pupnik | well i've seen the bars twice before and they frighten me | 08:28 |
| pupnik | never when flashing though | 08:28 |
| roundeye | will the 770 boot with no batery? | 08:29 |
| pupnik | dont know | 08:29 |
| roundeye | the only way i could get it to turn on was by putting the batter in | 08:29 |
| roundeye | the recomended way of the charge did not work | 08:30 |
| roundeye | but i held down the home key while i put the battery in it | 08:30 |
| roundeye | i only heldthe home key for about 5 sec. after it started | 08:31 |
| pupnik | can you turn it off and back on now? | 08:31 |
| pupnik | did the flasher finish? | 08:31 |
| roundeye | yes | 08:31 |
| roundeye | b4 i came nac into #maemo | 08:32 |
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| roundeye | imnot supposed to hold the home key down for the whole prosess am i? | 08:32 |
| pupnik | i just held it down a couple seconds | 08:32 |
| roundeye | i have flashed successfully 4 times now with the same result | 08:33 |
| pupnik | you see the bars every time you turn it on? | 08:34 |
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| roundeye | the flasher-2.0 finishes transfering | 08:34 |
| roundeye | yes i see them every time | 08:34 |
| roundeye | but them move almost like the video drivers are screwed up | 08:34 |
| pupnik | it doesn't look like a regular software problem, right? the screen goes all *strange* | 08:35 |
| pupnik | kind of strange-white, and there's some junk on the right side of the bar? | 08:35 |
| roundeye | almost like the gui is loading but the video drivers a screwd | 08:35 |
| roundeye | everything is squished the the middle of the screen but verry distroted | 08:36 |
| pupnik | i don't know what causes it | 08:37 |
| roundeye | i didnt want to have to rma it because i just got the damn thing | 08:37 |
| pupnik | maybe if you can take a picture and upload it | 08:37 |
| roundeye | but it look like im going ot have to | 08:37 |
| pupnik | someone will know what to do | 08:37 |
| roundeye | i could but what else can you do but flash it ? | 08:37 |
| pupnik | yeah maybe | 08:37 |
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| pupnik | you say it wouldn't turn on when you held the power-on button down? | 08:38 |
| pupnik | you know you have to hold it down for a couple of seconds? | 08:38 |
| roundeye | yes | 08:38 |
| roundeye | i have been non stop with it since it got it | 08:38 |
| pupnik | maybe you can find something on internettalk.com forums, or on the maemo-users mailing list | 08:39 |
| pupnik | but otherwise looks like an RMA | 08:40 |
| pupnik | i'd take some pictures though for the record | 08:40 |
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| roundeye | will do see ya latter | 08:42 |
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| roundeye | hey im bacc with a quick question | 08:49 |
| roundeye | what is cold flashing? | 08:49 |
| pupnik | i think it's something they do with the serial port | 08:50 |
| unique311 | k, after this i'm done | 08:52 |
| unique311 | symlink is not needed | 08:52 |
| unique311 | in preference ini you can tell smc where the data files are located | 08:52 |
| pupnik | aha! | 08:53 |
| unique311 | still no sound.. | 08:53 |
| unique311 | using your sound pack | 08:54 |
| unique311 | maybe i cant tell it where to find sound.. | 08:54 |
| unique311 | or better yet which device to use | 08:54 |
| pupnik | if you quit, you should see errors if it can't load the wav files | 08:54 |
| unique311 | no available audio devices | 08:55 |
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| unique311 | laters | 09:39 |
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| roundeye | cmon guys it friday night wheres the action | 10:06 |
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| pupnik | not much right now | 10:08 |
| pupnik | building latest smc to see how it plays on a real desktop | 10:08 |
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| roundeye | how long have youahd your 770? | 10:14 |
| roundeye | from what ive been reading they break alot and there are many bad stories | 10:15 |
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| pupnikzzz | i have no idea how the quality control is. mine has been solid and i've dropped it on concrete a few times | 10:19 |
| roundeye | how long have you had it | 10:20 |
| pupnikzzz | 8 mon | 10:20 |
| roundeye | must have gota bad one | 10:20 |
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| gpd | don't suppose anyone has heard if it is possible to use multimap.com with maemomapper | 10:33 |
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| HumanPenguin | Hi folks | 12:01 |
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| whaq_ | hi folk | 12:24 |
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| whaq_ | so when one is a human penguin.. what traits from each species are present on the speciment..? | 12:25 |
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| HumanPenguin | Basically I spend all day whining cos its too freaking hot here in GA. and eat a lot of sushi | 12:37 |
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| nitrogen | Does anybody else feel completely exasperated by the ridiculously broken SDK howto on maemo.org | 12:43 |
| HumanPenguin | Well as I am trying to workout how to get it working for the first time as we type. Yeah just a little frustrated. | 12:45 |
| nitrogen | I've spent hours trying to get things to work | 12:45 |
| nitrogen | I'm in the same boat | 12:45 |
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| HumanPenguin | I downloaded the Qemu instance got nowhere | 12:46 |
| nitrogen | I've got to the point of having a qemu-arm scratchbox target set up, but it's missing all of the nokia files, even though I extracted what I'm guessing is the right rootstrap | 12:46 |
| nitrogen | also annoying is that scratchbox forces the use of sb-menu, while the howto is for sb-config | 12:47 |
| HumanPenguin | nods I am just looking at the target stuff. so you beat me. | 12:47 |
| nitrogen | I actually managed to get the nested X environment working, but whenever I open a menu on the simulated device the menu disappears | 12:48 |
| HumanPenguin | Oh I am way behind you. I downloaded the 4.0 scratchbox stuff got it running just got past the add user stuff. I am now trying to workout what all this target stuff is about. First time trying any xcompile stuff so I am a little slow | 12:50 |
| nitrogen | I'm working with a 770, so I'm doing the 2.2 stuff, but having the same issues | 12:51 |
| nitrogen | I think I just found the real rootstrap file though | 12:52 |
| HumanPenguin | Hmm I have a target sellected but in the Select qemu-arm cpu transparency there was no transparency options just none | 12:56 |
| nitrogen | I had to install the scratchbox-devkit-cputransp-1.0.2-i386.tar.gz file to get those options | 12:58 |
| nitrogen | but the options I got were very different from the ones in the howto | 12:58 |
| HumanPenguin | ok I think I have found my rootstrap. Lets see if we can get smoke from a vm | 12:59 |
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| Quinlan^ | Looks pretty lively in here... | 13:10 |
| HumanPenguin | much noob frustration is affot | 13:11 |
| bilboed | is there a package providing the gstreamer utils, like gst-inspect, gst-launch, etc... | 13:11 |
| HumanPenguin | s/affot/afoot | 13:12 |
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| dev | bilboed: gstreamer0.10-tools | 13:19 |
| bilboed | yeah, I needed to activate the red-pill mode | 13:20 |
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| bilboed | hmm... no gdp elements available :( | 13:23 |
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| whaq_ | no... n800.. nearby.. | 13:36 |
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| bilboed | this is weird, there isn't the gdp plugin in the gst-plugins-base packages | 13:42 |
| bilboed | or gst-plugins-base-extra | 13:42 |
| bilboed | anybody has it compiled for n800 ? | 13:42 |
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| codebx | i like elephants :/ | 15:49 |
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| BladeRunnerFX | is someone having a problem to update maemo 3.1 to 3.2 with apt-get? is says that could not resolve 'repository.maemo.org' | 16:31 |
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| BladeRunner | is there a problem with the maemo repository? i'm trying to update from scratchbox and the /etc/apt/sources.list is already configured. | 16:35 |
| BladeRunner | and there is no fucking manual instalation for the maemo 3.2. | 16:37 |
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| pupnikzzz | hi BladeRunner | 17:03 |
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| pupnik | maemo.org has been unstable the past couple of days | 17:04 |
| pupnik | they should have a backup just for the repository, if this keeps happening | 17:04 |
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| BladeRunner | and there is an alternative to configure the sources.list for a while? | 17:06 |
| BladeRunner | are you having this problem too? | 17:07 |
| sp3000 | BladeRunner: check that your sbox resolv.conf isn't broken | 17:07 |
| sp3000 | or missing or whatnot | 17:07 |
| BladeRunner | in the armel target the /etc/resolv.conf has only the line: nameserver 127.0.0.1 | 17:10 |
| BladeRunner | is that it? | 17:11 |
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| BladeRunner | sp3000: are you having any trouble with apt-get update inside scratchbox? | 17:14 |
| sp3000 | BladeRunner: unless you have a name server on the local machine, that wouldn't work | 17:14 |
| sp3000 | you can copy in your normal one for instance | 17:14 |
| BladeRunner | but wget works fine inside scratchbox i think it's another problem | 17:16 |
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| pupnik | sorry i was assuming you were on the tablet | 17:21 |
| pupnik | hi unique311 | 17:22 |
| unique311 | hello | 17:27 |
| pupnik | new smc 1.0 tarball is out today. i wish n800 had opengl now :/ | 17:28 |
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| unique311 | same | 17:29 |
| BladeRunner | sp3000: i'm using dlink (wireless). are you developer? | 17:29 |
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| unique311 | more games would be available | 17:30 |
| agogo | does anyone have the 2nd newest n800 firmware that I can use to dual boot with the latest firmware, and allow video calls to PC? | 17:31 |
| pupnik | BladeRunner: were you ever able to apt-get install your scratchbox? | 17:31 |
| BladeRunner | pupnik: no. i've recently installed maemo3.1 and tried to update for the 3.2 | 17:32 |
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| BladeRunner | but wget command works inside scratchbox so i think it can resolve names | 17:33 |
| pupnik | more /scratchbox/etc/resolv.conf | 17:34 |
| pupnik | nameserver 192.168.1.1 | 17:34 |
| pupnik | try your real nameserver | 17:34 |
| pupnik | there was another issue -- nsswitch | 17:34 |
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| BladeRunner | the same problem | 17:39 |
| BladeRunner | what is nsswitch? | 17:39 |
| pupnik | being able to wget but not apt-get is a common install problem for scratchbox | 17:40 |
| pupnik | i don't remember the solution tho | 17:41 |
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| agogo | does anyone have the 2nd newest n800 firmware that I can use to dual boot with the latest firmware, and allow video calls to PC? | 17:56 |
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| shreyas | hey when i try to install apps on my new maemo n800 it fails on dependency checks but those packages are not there in the lib list | 18:01 |
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| pupnik | Would you pay for an openGL upgrade to N800? :) | 18:07 |
| pupnik | shreyas: more info would be helpful | 18:08 |
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| N800 | not sure.. | 18:09 |
| shreyas | pupnik: well when i try to install evnice it fails cos it cant find libglade-2.0 | 18:10 |
| N800 | why would i have to pay for it.. | 18:10 |
| shreyas | so i am guessing some repo is missing | 18:10 |
| N800 | nokia should cough up license money | 18:10 |
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| BladeRunner | pupnik: i've solved it was the nsswitch the attribute hosts. thanks | 18:13 |
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| Jaffa | Yay, maemo.org broken again (or at least the planet) | 18:38 |
| zeenix | Jaffa: works fine here | 18:41 |
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| shreyas | do i need to add new repos other than the default ones to install apps like evince and maemo mapper | 18:43 |
| shreyas | by default they seem to have missing dependencies | 18:43 |
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| pparker | hi, i've got a big problem on my 770 | 18:49 |
| celesteh | yes? | 18:49 |
| pparker | i've got dpkg parse error and no root access | 18:50 |
| pparker | becomeroot is not installed | 18:50 |
| celesteh | like, you tried the default root and it didn't work or you don't know how to get root? | 18:50 |
| celesteh | oh, bummer | 18:50 |
| celesteh | um, well, i'm a n00b, so i can't help you too much. | 18:51 |
| pparker | can i be root without becomeroot installed ? | 18:51 |
| celesteh | su or sudo? | 18:51 |
| pparker | what is default root password on 770 ? | 18:51 |
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| celesteh | http://board.nokia770hacks.com/How_To/Root_Access_on_the_Nokia_770 | 18:52 |
| celesteh | http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lob770.html | 18:55 |
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| pparker | "ssh:root:name or service not known | 18:56 |
| pparker | :( | 18:56 |
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| celesteh | if you haven't installed the ssh server, that won't work | 18:57 |
| celesteh | the stupid answer is to back up your data and re-flash the device | 18:57 |
| pparker | it ask me a password, but i don't know it | 18:57 |
| celesteh | the password is: rootme | 18:58 |
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| pparker | when i choose type 'sudo gainroot' | 18:58 |
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| NeoStrider | hello folks | 18:58 |
| celesteh | hiiya | 18:58 |
| pparker | it seems not on 770 | 18:58 |
| celesteh | i dunno. i have an 800 | 18:59 |
| NeoStrider | pparker | 18:59 |
| NeoStrider | here it shows something like "activate R&D mode to brick your device" | 18:59 |
| NeoStrider | or something like that | 18:59 |
| celesteh | scroll below that | 18:59 |
| pparker | ok i'll backup then flash the device | 19:00 |
| pparker | then i'll install becomeroot first ! | 19:00 |
| pparker | i symply need to remove /var/libdpkg/status to correct the problem | 19:01 |
| pparker | backup tool saves everything ? | 19:03 |
| NeoStrider | dunno, pparker | 19:05 |
| pupnik | xterm and ssh are the first things i install | 19:06 |
| pupnik | pparker: with ssh you can log-in as root without the becomeroot package or R and D mode | 19:07 |
| pparker | can you give me an url to download os2007 he ? | 19:08 |
| pupnik | SU-18_2007HACKER_2.2006.47-17_PR_F5_MR0_ARM.bin google | 19:08 |
| Jaffa | pparker: ways of becoming root on a 770 or N800: 1) install "becomeroot" package, this simply enabled "sudo gainroot" to bypass the R&D mode check; 2) use a Linux or Mac OS X box to set R&D mode using the flasher, then use "sudo gainroot"; 3) install an SSH server and SSH back into your device from X Terminal as root, use "rootme" as the password | 19:08 |
| pparker | but i can't install anything while dpkg is broken | 19:09 |
| pupnik | then you need to use 2 | 19:09 |
| pparker | if i simply flash the device without rd i can install becomeroot ? | 19:11 |
| pupnik | yes but it's not in the default repository (on my 770) | 19:12 |
| Jaffa | pparker: if you do a normal reflash, everything not on MMC is wiped and restored to factory settings. The backup/restore tool saves some stuff. | 19:13 |
| pparker | ok | 19:14 |
| pparker | another questions:sometimes mplayer hangs the device: no way to shutdown i'm forced to remove battery | 19:15 |
| pparker | any hints ? | 19:15 |
| pupnik | sometimes it takes a while, did you try hitting escape and waiting 20 seconds? | 19:16 |
| pparker | y | 19:16 |
| pupnik | argh now i want more fps on smc | 19:18 |
| pparker | wich version of flasher ? | 19:21 |
| pparker | 3.0 ? | 19:22 |
| pupnik | for 770 i use flasher-2.0 | 19:22 |
| pparker | are you sure ? | 19:23 |
| pupnik | yes | 19:23 |
| NeoStrider | pupnik...i alreadu told you about my idea of creating a repository of maemo games? | 19:26 |
| pupnik | http://www.thesearenotgoodenoughformaemoextrasrepository.org? | 19:27 |
| NeoStrider | hahahhahah | 19:27 |
| NeoStrider | maybe =-p | 19:27 |
| NeoStrider | but I guess smw could be a highlight of it | 19:27 |
| pupnik | :( i am being lazy - once smw has the working .desktop and maemo-games-startup, it should be ready for extras, i think | 19:29 |
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| pupnik | i don't like the idea of more repositories, personally | 19:29 |
| pupnik | i'd like two repositories for each distro | 19:30 |
| pupnik | one official, and one community | 19:30 |
| celesteh | pupnik, i can see your point there | 19:31 |
| NeoStrider | yeah...but I guess its too much bureocracy | 19:33 |
| NeoStrider | burucracy | 19:33 |
| NeoStrider | burocracy | 19:33 |
| NeoStrider | what the hell | 19:33 |
| pparker | flashing is complete | 19:34 |
| NeoStrider | I dont know to write burocracia in english | 19:34 |
| pparker | how to reboot device | 19:34 |
| NeoStrider | pparker, 770, right? | 19:34 |
| pparker | y | 19:34 |
| NeoStrider | when ready tell me if it works nice =-) | 19:34 |
| N800 | how do i go about installing kagu | 19:36 |
| N800 | not finding a binary | 19:36 |
| pparker | it boots on os 2007 ! | 19:37 |
| NeoStrider | and how does it looks like?! | 19:37 |
| pparker | very black ;) | 19:38 |
| N800 | trevarthan, hellllllllllllllllllppppppppppppppppp | 19:38 |
| pupnik | bureaucracy is a word i have ttrouble spelling too | 19:38 |
| pupnik | hah someone made a mouse out of a real mouse http://forum.4shared.com/viewtopic.php?p=10458#10458 | 19:38 |
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| trevarthan | N800: wazzup? | 19:45 |
| trevarthan | kagu? | 19:46 |
| trevarthan | stupid monkey | 19:46 |
| trevarthan | N800: instructions here: https://www.guardiani.us/projects/kagu/wiki | 19:46 |
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| trevarthan | we'll probably be releasing a binary tomorrow. | 19:47 |
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| N800 | ok | 19:48 |
| N800 | thats what i was looking for a binary | 19:48 |
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| Piezzo | Hello | 20:13 |
| celesteh | hi | 20:13 |
| NeoStrider | hello | 20:13 |
| N800 | bounjour | 20:17 |
| N800 | bonjour | 20:17 |
| N800 | yeah the second one | 20:17 |
| celesteh | bonjour | 20:17 |
| NeoStrider | bonjour | 20:19 |
| N800 | its hot.. | 20:19 |
| N800 | hate the summer | 20:19 |
| Piezzo | What is good .doc .xml reader for 770? | 20:19 |
| N800 | big winter fan | 20:19 |
| NeoStrider | my too | 20:19 |
| NeoStrider | im lucky this year | 20:19 |
| NeoStrider | its winter back in brazil | 20:19 |
| N800 | can wait for the next ice age | 20:19 |
| NeoStrider | and in summer Im going to canada, to take a biiig winter | 20:20 |
| N800 | nice | 20:20 |
| NeoStrider | and maybe Ill buy a N800 =-) | 20:20 |
| N800 | finally got meamyo chronicles working... | 20:21 |
| NeoStrider | gimme the debs =-) | 20:21 |
| N800 | loving it...but needs sound.. | 20:21 |
| N800 | that i do not have yet... | 20:21 |
| N800 | no debs yet | 20:21 |
| N800 | you own a 770 | 20:22 |
| frob | NeoStrider: to Canada? | 20:22 |
| N800 | you should use pupniks binarys | 20:22 |
| N800 | ie | 20:22 |
| NeoStrider | yes frob | 20:22 |
| NeoStrider | toronto | 20:22 |
| frob | family over there? | 20:22 |
| NeoStrider | no....just a | 20:22 |
| NeoStrider | what is the name | 20:22 |
| NeoStrider | intercambio... | 20:23 |
| pupnik | man, don't play the newest SM Chronicles on opengl - on my PC it's like a couple hundred FPS | 20:23 |
| pupnik | makes the 770 look slowwwww | 20:23 |
| frob | oh, exchange student | 20:23 |
| frob | cool | 20:23 |
| NeoStrider | yeah! | 20:23 |
| NeoStrider | are you from canada, frob? | 20:23 |
| frob | I wish | 20:23 |
| frob | :( | 20:23 |
| NeoStrider | where are you from? | 20:23 |
| frob | .it | 20:23 |
| NeoStrider | I see | 20:23 |
| NeoStrider | cool too | 20:24 |
| pupnik | N800: did you ever look at the framerate on N800? Hit control-D (synergy) and look at the top left of the screen for FPS | 20:24 |
| frob | not really | 20:24 |
| NeoStrider | nice women | 20:24 |
| NeoStrider | nice food | 20:24 |
| NeoStrider | nice cities | 20:24 |
| frob | nothing I care about | 20:24 |
| NeoStrider | pupnik: how is smc going? | 20:24 |
| pupnik | fun to play | 20:24 |
| pupnik | i am not going to work on smc though | 20:25 |
| NeoStrider | smw is addictive! | 20:25 |
| pupnik | yeah :) | 20:25 |
| NeoStrider | frob: you dont like all that stuff? sure...brazil has nice women, food and cities too...but sometimes is cool to go somewhere else | 20:26 |
| N800 | easily modified | 20:26 |
| pupnik | would it be easy for you to get the .desktop menu working? | 20:26 |
| NeoStrider | maybe | 20:26 |
| NeoStrider | where is the svn again? | 20:26 |
| frob | NeoStrider: but canada has good schools | 20:26 |
| frob | that's what I meant | 20:26 |
| N800 | going to look for a descent packman game... | 20:26 |
| N800 | i need pacman also in my life | 20:26 |
| NeoStrider | frob: sure..I still improve my english...and taste world...and hopefully taste women ;-) | 20:27 |
| NeoStrider | hahahhah....N800: port MAME | 20:27 |
| frob | N800: you need to eat pills while walking back and forth? | 20:27 |
| NeoStrider | wel...actually..there is already mame for maemo | 20:27 |
| N800 | soemthing that doesn't involve an emulator | 20:27 |
| NeoStrider | frob, I do that everyday | 20:27 |
| NeoStrider | I got from ubuntu repos a pacman clone | 20:28 |
| frob | eh ? | 20:28 |
| NeoStrider | name... | 20:28 |
| NeoStrider | "PacMan" | 20:28 |
| NeoStrider | its kind of oldish | 20:28 |
| N800 | dependencies? | 20:28 |
| NeoStrider | seems like a old X11 game | 20:28 |
| NeoStrider | but works | 20:28 |
| NeoStrider | this game seems to work on bare X11 | 20:28 |
| NeoStrider | heheh | 20:28 |
| NeoStrider | playing here: 1995! | 20:29 |
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| NeoStrider | "by Roar thronaes" (ae=that character I dont have in my kb) | 20:29 |
| NeoStrider | not a playstation quality game..looks more like a Atari 7800 game.... | 20:30 |
| NeoStrider | but works | 20:30 |
| N800 | might be able to find a recent | 20:30 |
| N800 | http://njam.sourceforge.net/ | 20:31 |
| N800 | here's a good one | 20:31 |
| N800 | network modes | 20:31 |
| NeoStrider | looks much better | 20:32 |
| N800 | characters can use some work | 20:32 |
| N800 | pupnik....smc not going to bother neither.. | 20:33 |
| N800 | i'll help with smw | 20:33 |
| frob | mmmm, lan multiplayer games for the n800 using avahi, now that would be cool :) | 20:33 |
| NeoStrider | we can all improve the games | 20:33 |
| frob | (the problem is finding someone else with the tablet, tough) | 20:33 |
| NeoStrider | N800...some 3D rendered ghosts could do the tirck | 20:33 |
| NeoStrider | trick | 20:33 |
| N800 | good with photoshop | 20:33 |
| NeoStrider | the pacman character itself is good | 20:34 |
| NeoStrider | gimp =-) | 20:34 |
| NeoStrider | the ghosts plain suck hahah | 20:34 |
| N800 | i can manage around gimp | 20:34 |
| N800 | but still photoshop is much better in my eyes.. | 20:34 |
| NeoStrider | maybe it does support translucent sprites | 20:34 |
| NeoStrider | you're a mono-window guy | 20:34 |
| N800 | i have a tablet and gimp doesn't play nice with it | 20:34 |
| NeoStrider | im a pluri-window guy | 20:35 |
| N800 | well not really | 20:35 |
| NeoStrider | now there is a good reason | 20:35 |
| NeoStrider | not those whiny bastards | 20:35 |
| N800 | i just use a graphire 4 tablet that gimp seems to have problems with | 20:35 |
| NeoStrider | you have a solid reason to use PS | 20:35 |
| N800 | yes | 20:35 |
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| N800 | i used gimp to make the palmOS skins | 20:36 |
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| NeoStrider | some designers say the best it to use both | 20:36 |
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| N800 | start up ubuntu | 20:37 |
| NeoStrider | i love ubuntu =-) | 20:38 |
| NeoStrider | cant wait to get ubuntu mobile | 20:38 |
| N800 | oh... | 20:38 |
| erstazi | (: | 20:38 |
| NeoStrider | on a intel mid or a eee pc it will rock! | 20:38 |
| N800 | thats going on the tablet | 20:38 |
| sloth1 | question: is there a PC jabber client that can do video chat with n800? | 20:39 |
| NeoStrider | jabber does video? | 20:39 |
| NeoStrider | well...N800 own google chat does that | 20:39 |
| NeoStrider | google chat == jabber | 20:39 |
| N800 | http://www.chez.com/vidalc/xchomp/xchomp.html | 20:40 |
| sloth1 | i heard n800 ot n800 works | 20:40 |
| N800 | black & white | 20:40 |
| N800 | nice | 20:40 |
| NeoStrider | Stylish! | 20:41 |
| NeoStrider | but I would add some colour to it | 20:41 |
| NeoStrider | not sprites, but some solid colours instead of plain BW | 20:42 |
| NeoStrider | man...i just love solid colors | 20:43 |
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| pupnik | N800: do you have synergy going now? or a BT keyboard on the N800? I'm curious what framerates SMC gets on it. That would be very informative | 20:52 |
| erstazi | what would be some suggested IRC clients for a Nokia 770? | 20:52 |
| pupnik | or anybody else that has a N800 | 20:52 |
| pupnik | irssi, xchat | 20:52 |
| NeoStrider | irssi? | 20:52 |
| erstazi | pupnik, I have tried xchat and it failed installation | 20:52 |
| NeoStrider | _Monkey? | 20:52 |
| NeoStrider | "irssi"? | 20:53 |
| erstazi | pupnik, irssi, I might try it, I normally use it | 20:53 |
| erstazi | NeoStrider, it is a CLI irc client | 20:53 |
| N800 | havent touch synergy in forerver | 20:53 |
| pupnik | Deathstar killed _Monkey | 20:53 |
| N800 | i'll get it going in a minute | 20:54 |
| NeoStrider | those imperial sith bastards | 20:54 |
| pupnik | or a bt keyboard might have the ctrl key also | 20:54 |
| pupnik | yes Imperial Business Machines ;) | 20:54 |
| pupnik | I am really impressed with the FPS on SMC. It's close to what i get when i blit rectangles (and do nothing else) fullscreen on n770 | 20:55 |
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| pupnik | s/rectangles/16-bit images | 20:55 |
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| NeoStrider | yeah...im quite impressed with those 2D games | 20:57 |
| NeoStrider | SMW looks just like the N800 video you made | 20:57 |
| NeoStrider | (was you, right?) | 20:58 |
| pupnik | unique311 did | 20:58 |
| pupnik | NeoStrider: if you want to do packaging work on SMW, i can spend my time fixing-up SMC | 20:59 |
| erstazi | I use to dislike Nokia, but they sure have put some good products out | 20:59 |
| NeoStrider | yeah...lets get it to work | 21:00 |
| pupnik | i fixed up some SMW dependencies | 21:00 |
| NeoStrider | what is the SMW svn again? | 21:00 |
| pupnik | so i'll upload the source | 21:00 |
| NeoStrider | ok | 21:00 |
| pupnik | dunno | 21:00 |
| NeoStrider | when ready. give me the source url and I will do my best | 21:01 |
| NeoStrider | s/./, | 21:03 |
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| RaPiSt | can i ask help for nokia n80 here; | 21:06 |
| RaPiSt | is anyone here; | 21:07 |
| pupnik | 1 | 21:07 |
| NeoStrider | PaPiSt, actually, n80 is quite different from n800 | 21:07 |
| NeoStrider | different OS | 21:07 |
| RaPiSt | ok | 21:07 |
| NeoStrider | different functions | 21:07 |
| RaPiSt | this is channel for n800 | 21:07 |
| RaPiSt | ; | 21:07 |
| NeoStrider | not only | 21:07 |
| NeoStrider | for 770 too | 21:08 |
| RaPiSt | is here any channel for n80; | 21:08 |
| NeoStrider | and what else comes | 21:08 |
| NeoStrider | "is there any channel for n80?" ,you mean? | 21:08 |
| RaPiSt | yes | 21:08 |
| NeoStrider | i dont really know | 21:08 |
| RaPiSt | ok | 21:08 |
| pupnik | NeoStrider: will take 5 minutes to upload - full svn is 28MB | 21:08 |
| NeoStrider | I would recommend www.newlc.com | 21:08 |
| pparker | i want to try mozilla but i got an error: osso-browser-opera | 21:08 |
| procto | RaPiSt: that runs symbian s60, right? | 21:08 |
| RaPiSt | yes | 21:08 |
| NeoStrider | yes procto | 21:08 |
| procto | try #symbian | 21:08 |
| procto | if that exists | 21:08 |
| NeoStrider | pupnik ,ok =-) | 21:09 |
| procto | yes it does | 21:09 |
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| procto | RaPiSt: so check out #symbian | 21:09 |
| RaPiSt | ok thx | 21:09 |
| NeoStrider | RaPiSt , n800 and n770 runs Linux, that is very different from Symbian | 21:09 |
| RaPiSt | ok ok | 21:09 |
| RaPiSt | i just buy a nokia n80 internet edition and it is too slow | 21:09 |
| RaPiSt | thats my problem | 21:09 |
| NeoStrider | did you installed anything on it? | 21:10 |
| procto | too slow? | 21:10 |
| procto | the internet too slow? | 21:10 |
| RaPiSt | from the first time i buy it it is slow | 21:10 |
| RaPiSt | no no | 21:10 |
| NeoStrider | well | 21:10 |
| RaPiSt | to see the sms it takes 2-3 secconds | 21:10 |
| procto | uh | 21:10 |
| procto | well | 21:10 |
| NeoStrider | symbian is somewhat slow (at least was on my N-Gage) | 21:10 |
| procto | check #symbian | 21:10 |
| RaPiSt | ok thx | 21:10 |
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| pupnik | http://www.divshare.com/download/1395805-139 smw_nokia.tgz svn NeoStrider | 21:13 |
| * NeoStrider is downloading smw source | 21:14 | |
| N800 | 26 max pupnik | 21:15 |
| pparker | i can't install mbrowser, missing packages osso-bookmarks | 21:16 |
| pparker | what's missing ? | 21:16 |
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| pupnik | Nice N800! | 21:18 |
| pupnik | i was getting about 10-12 when moving around and 15-16 when standing still | 21:18 |
| N800 | hold on | 21:18 |
| N800 | running synergy screwed up the speed | 21:19 |
| pparker | remember i flashed to use os2007 | 21:19 |
| pupnik | i couldn't install it either pparker | 21:19 |
| pparker | :((((((((((((((((((((( | 21:19 |
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| pparker | ok last one:uktube is not launching | 21:21 |
| pparker | mplayer is installed | 21:22 |
| N800 | pupnik, 26 to 30 | 21:23 |
| N800 | with different characters around... | 21:23 |
| N800 | drops to about 10 11 | 21:23 |
| pupnik | ahh.. so maybe it's not using page-flipping to redraw | 21:23 |
| pupnik | i cranked down the window to 400x240 (makes everything unplayable of course) and the frame rates got nice and high | 21:24 |
| NeoStrider | how are you guys measuring the fps? | 21:26 |
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| Fatal | blinking really fast | 21:26 |
| pupnik | ctrl-D and fps is shown in upper left | 21:27 |
| NeoStrider | oh...is a game feature | 21:27 |
| NeoStrider | Fatal..I will try that | 21:27 |
| pupnik | this is SMC now SMW btw | 21:27 |
| pupnik | s/now/not | 21:27 |
| pupnik | s/now/not/ | 21:27 |
| infobot | pupnik meant: s/not/not | 21:27 |
| pupnik | gah | 21:27 |
| NeoStrider | hahhahaha | 21:27 |
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| * NeoStrider has not finished downloading smw source yet...=-/ | 21:42 | |
| cravmail | someone had a problem with intltool in maemo 3.2 scratchbox? saying that was too old... | 21:43 |
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| ragesaq | im looking at getting an n800 | 21:49 |
| ragesaq | i like what ive seen it can do so far | 21:49 |
| ragesaq | can you play ADOM and dungeon crawl and other roguelikes that have linux ports? | 21:50 |
| NeoStrider | sure | 21:50 |
| ragesaq | nice | 21:50 |
| NeoStrider | i have nethack on it | 21:51 |
| ragesaq | im not crazy about nethack as much as i am about the other two | 21:51 |
| ragesaq | i can play nethack on my pdaphone, but not adom and dungeon crawl | 21:51 |
| NeoStrider | s/have/had/ | 21:51 |
| infobot | NeoStrider meant: i had nethack on it | 21:51 |
| NeoStrider | I guess it was nethack | 21:52 |
| NeoStrider | i cant remember | 21:52 |
| NeoStrider | but it was a "gauntlets like" | 21:52 |
| ragesaq | the next one is a bit trickier | 21:52 |
| NeoStrider | but more rpg than arcade | 21:52 |
| ragesaq | can i use logmein on the nokia | 21:52 |
| ragesaq | it has a java client | 21:52 |
| ragesaq | and also a mozilla client | 21:53 |
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| NeoStrider | pupnik: | 22:04 |
| NeoStrider | gzip: stdin: not in gzip format | 22:04 |
| NeoStrider | tar: Child returned status 1 | 22:04 |
| pupnik | did i misname it? try xjvf | 22:06 |
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| NeoStrider | worked | 22:07 |
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| NeoStrider | pupnik, the package name...what it is? | 22:13 |
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| pupnik | smw-bin_1.7-8_armel.deb | 22:16 |
| pupnik | debian/files | 22:16 |
| NeoStrider | well | 22:17 |
| NeoStrider | so the dir must be ~/smw-bin | 22:17 |
| pupnik | hmm or smw | 22:18 |
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| pupnik | it was smw originally | 22:18 |
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| N800 | you tried getting fullscreen on smw? | 22:18 |
| pupnik | yeah it works | 22:18 |
| N800 | fully | 22:18 |
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| N800 | no black on the left or right? | 22:18 |
| pupnik | oh there is black on left/right | 22:18 |
| pupnik | none of the maps are for 800x480 | 22:19 |
| N800 | i think i can get rid of those | 22:19 |
| N800 | ok | 22:19 |
| pupnik | do you think it should have onscreen buttons? or can the special weapon be <return> | 22:20 |
| N800 | How about mapping 1 or 2 buttons on the freed area | 22:20 |
| pupnik | heh | 22:20 |
| N800 | yes | 22:20 |
| NeoStrider | smw would be better if your were only to have a single package for everything | 22:23 |
| jonnylamb | Hm, I just set up SB and apt won't resolve repository.maemo.org. However, wget obviously can.. | 22:23 |
| pupnik | there are many different data packs possible | 22:23 |
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| pupnik | many different level setups - a whole community builds levels | 22:23 |
| pupnik | also there is a "smw mini" data package | 22:23 |
| pupnik | taking only 4 MB | 22:24 |
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| pupnik | what do i need to do besides create the .desktop file? | 22:24 |
| pupnik | what do i need to change in debian/? | 22:24 |
| jonnylamb | pupnik: For what? | 22:24 |
| pupnik | to get the application into the menu | 22:24 |
| pupnik | NeoStrider was going to work on that but now he's flying off on tangents | 22:25 |
| pupnik | :) | 22:25 |
| N800 | anybody notice the loading time bug.. | 22:25 |
| jonnylamb | Create the .desktop file, then assuming your source package has only one binary package then install the .desktop file into the /usr/share/applications/ directory using debian/rules; or you could use debian/install. | 22:25 |
| N800 | where it ask you to press any button..and don't respond... | 22:25 |
| pupnik | yes N800 | 22:26 |
| N800 | before packaging.. | 22:26 |
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| N800 | might want to check those things out.. | 22:26 |
| NeoStrider | no | 22:28 |
| NeoStrider | im working on i t! | 22:28 |
| NeoStrider | it! | 22:28 |
| pupnik | hehe | 22:28 |
| NeoStrider | but there are stuff pertinent to it | 22:28 |
| NeoStrider | like the dir name | 22:28 |
| NeoStrider | becouse autotools infere the name of the app from it | 22:29 |
| pupnik | ah | 22:29 |
| pupnik | so we need to make a debian/smw/usr/share/applications/hildon/ | 22:31 |
| pupnik | ? and in rules, under install add | 22:31 |
| jonnylamb | You know, it /really/ is easier using debian/$PACKAGENAME.install.. | 22:32 |
| pupnik | ah ok | 22:32 |
| jonnylamb | One line: "path/to/smw.install usr/share/applications/hildon/" | 22:33 |
| NeoStrider | actually pupnik, everything I know comes from maemowizard | 22:33 |
| NeoStrider | "make"ing smw | 22:34 |
| NeoStrider | ok | 22:39 |
| NeoStrider | maybe i figured it out | 22:39 |
| NeoStrider | you had a smw-nokia dir | 22:40 |
| NeoStrider | with a smw.desktop | 22:40 |
| NeoStrider | and a smw-bin package | 22:40 |
| NeoStrider | the system had 3 names to handle | 22:40 |
| NeoStrider | I will build a new package and see what happens changing smw.desktop to smw-bin.desktop | 22:40 |
| pupnik | ok originally the dir was smw - i just changed smw to smw_nokia to prevent conflicts when you unpacked it | 22:40 |
| pupnik | cool | 22:40 |
| NeoStrider | ok | 22:40 |
| NeoStrider | i renamed it to smw-bin | 22:40 |
| NeoStrider | dpkg-buildpackage complained it from being smw-bin and not smw-1.7 | 22:42 |
| NeoStrider | this is a good clue too | 22:42 |
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| pupnik | thanks for the help jonnylamb | 22:42 |
| joshin | disq: You helped me a few days ago with a weird web stream not getting along with My N770... I finally solved it. I opened up ESD on the 770 a bit and was able to stream mplayer on my server to it. Went from taking up 178% of the CPU (according to Mplayer) to 36%. :) | 22:43 |
| pupnik | is there a good repository for gregale libraries and development libraries for scratchbox? | 22:44 |
| disq | joshin: glad to hear (did i? don't remember) | 22:46 |
| joshin | disq: I thought so. My logs rolled off... | 22:47 |
| joshin | Anyhow, I was amused that I got it working. More amused that I didn't break anything. | 22:47 |
| NeoStrider | packages done | 22:48 |
| NeoStrider | testing | 22:48 |
| NeoStrider | strange...the dpkg not even asked me where to put the shortcut | 22:50 |
| NeoStrider | that dialog asking "Games" "Extras" , etc | 22:50 |
| N800 | hmmmm | 22:51 |
| N800 | you guys have a working package already.. | 22:51 |
| NeoStrider | wheres the service file? | 22:52 |
| pupnik | ? ? | 22:52 |
| NeoStrider | we need a file named like | 23:03 |
| NeoStrider | org.pupnikgames.smw.service | 23:03 |
| NeoStrider | for dbus | 23:03 |
| NeoStrider | to call the game when its icon is clicked | 23:03 |
| pupnik | ah ok - searching | 23:03 |
| NeoStrider | take a look at maemowizard's template and you will see one | 23:03 |
| pupnik | so copy Maemowizard.template.service to smw-bin.template.service and edit it? | 23:04 |
| pupnik | or smw.template.service? | 23:05 |
| NeoStrider | hey | 23:05 |
| NeoStrider | actually the name is some kind of url in reverse | 23:05 |
| NeoStrider | MaemoWizard is like a domain | 23:05 |
| NeoStrider | when you apply the script it became something like MaemoWizard.smw.service | 23:06 |
| pupnik | yeah | 23:06 |
| pupnik | ohhh | 23:06 |
| NeoStrider | so it can be org.pupnikgames.smw.service | 23:06 |
| pupnik | duh | 23:06 |
| NeoStrider | ;-) | 23:06 |
| NeoStrider | the service file is vital to the desktop to work | 23:06 |
| NeoStrider | and to have the app on the taskbar | 23:06 |
| pupnik | 72dpiarmy made it | 23:07 |
| pupnik | 72dpiarmy.smw.service maybe | 23:07 |
| NeoStrider | doing a extensive search on the source dir | 23:09 |
| NeoStrider | file not found | 23:10 |
| NeoStrider | i will copy the maemowizard service file | 23:11 |
| NeoStrider | but how to include it? | 23:11 |
| N800 | you don't need a service file.. | 23:11 |
| NeoStrider | why not? | 23:11 |
| N800 | not sure...but sll it does is show the loading rectangle on the top right of the screen..under thebattery meter | 23:12 |
| pupnik | more com.nokia.bomberman_app.service // bomberman has one | 23:12 |
| N800 | had issues with it before and notice when i didn't use it the loading didn't show.. | 23:12 |
| N800 | and when i did loading showed. | 23:12 |
| pupnik | Makefile.am:servicedir = $(datadir)/dbus-1/services | 23:12 |
| pupnik | Makefile.am:service_DATA = com.nokia.bomberman_app.service | 23:12 |
| pupnik | Makefile.am: com.nokia.bomberman_app.service | 23:12 |
| N800 | if you think its not too much work.. | 23:13 |
| N800 | inculde it.. | 23:13 |
| N800 | i left it out in POSE | 23:13 |
| N800 | and synergy2 GUI | 23:13 |
| pupnik | you can launch them from menu? | 23:13 |
| NeoStrider | MaemoWizard service file actually is bomberman files modified (klaus allowed me to do so) | 23:13 |
| pupnik | :) | 23:13 |
| N800 | yes | 23:13 |
| N800 | doesn't stop that | 23:14 |
| N800 | i have synergy2 in the menu | 23:14 |
| N800 | and launch it | 23:14 |
| NeoStrider | strange... | 23:14 |
| NeoStrider | but it shows on the task bar? | 23:14 |
| pupnik | i read that you need to register with dbus otherwise the application closes after a few seconds? does this sound familiar? | 23:14 |
| N800 | the loading deosn't appear like other apps | 23:14 |
| N800 | synergy never closed on me.. | 23:14 |
| pupnik | cool | 23:14 |
| N800 | but will put it to the test right now | 23:14 |
| N800 | 4:15 | 23:15 |
| * pupnik is working on virtual keyboard | 23:16 | |
| NeoStrider | but synergy uses SDL? | 23:16 |
| NeoStrider | pupnik, what virtual keyboard? | 23:16 |
| pupnik | right now xvkbd | 23:17 |
| N800 | compiled synergy2 a while back | 23:17 |
| pupnik | xkbd builds, matchbox-keyboard and xvkbd are not building | 23:17 |
| N800 | synergy2 GUI application | 23:18 |
| pupnik | well NeoStrider then maybe synergy2 gui is a good place to start | 23:18 |
| NeoStrider | yeah, but synergy2 uses SDL? | 23:19 |
| NeoStrider | there is a diferent nature in the applications | 23:19 |
| pupnik | ah | 23:19 |
| NeoStrider | SDL apps tend to be more window-manager agnostics | 23:19 |
| N800 | quicksynergy.sourceforge.net | 23:20 |
| N800 | gtk and C | 23:21 |
| NeoStrider | so...its a diferent monster | 23:21 |
| NeoStrider | i still recommend checkin out bomberman and indt games | 23:21 |
| derf | pupnik: maemocjk uses matchbox-keyboard successfully. | 23:21 |
| NeoStrider | before I had a service file, my game engine would stuck with the "loading box" and did nothing besides that | 23:22 |
| NeoStrider | and even after I had a service file and desktop file, they had to be properly configured | 23:22 |
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| NeoStrider | trying a different thing: copied and adapted angstron desktop and service files to see if it works | 23:26 |
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| NeoStrider | no success | 23:30 |
| NeoStrider | sucess | 23:30 |
| NeoStrider | I guess we need a new autotools configuration | 23:30 |
| pupnik | >_< | 23:30 |
| NeoStrider | or maybe, maemowizard heheh | 23:31 |
| NeoStrider | I dont know | 23:31 |
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| NeoStrider | i created maemowizard exactly becouse of my lack of knowledge | 23:31 |
| NeoStrider | and the lack of good documentation | 23:31 |
| NeoStrider | and my lack of time =-P | 23:31 |
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| NeoStrider | hey...I have a suggestion: | 23:32 |
| NeoStrider | take any game (angstron will do) package, unpack it, change the binarie and re-pack it =-P | 23:32 |
| * pupnik needs imake and xmkmf and debhelper 5 and ivtools and libmodule-build-perl and ... | 23:33 | |
| NeoStrider | hahahah | 23:33 |
| NeoStrider | but my research wasnt all failure | 23:34 |
| NeoStrider | you do need a propper desktop and service file | 23:34 |
| soothsayer | If apt-get update is getting stuck ("99% [Waiting for headers]") does that mean that the repositories are down? | 23:34 |
| NeoStrider | ( and some gameplay adaptations ;-) ) | 23:34 |
| pupnik | ok | 23:34 |
| NeoStrider | soothsayer...not really, I guess | 23:35 |
| NeoStrider | I need to restart my X | 23:35 |
| NeoStrider | Xephyr stole the sound | 23:35 |
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| soothsayer | Is repository.maemo.org barely responsive for anyone else? | 23:43 |
| pupnik | svn checkout is slow here | 23:45 |
| soothsayer | pupnik: Thanks | 23:46 |
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| pupnik | re | 23:53 |
| NeoStrider | brezillian kaffe, ya! | 23:53 |
| NeoStrider | well...I need to solve a bug on angstron | 23:53 |
| NeoStrider | how is things going on smc? | 23:54 |
| NeoStrider | s/is/are/ | 23:54 |
| infobot | NeoStrider meant: how are things going on smc? | 23:54 |
| pupnik | trying to increase speed and improve sounds | 23:54 |
| NeoStrider | but works? | 23:55 |
| pupnik | also we could use another n800 user to verify that sound isn't working | 23:55 |
| pupnik | yeah i wasted a lot of time playing | 23:55 |
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| NeoStrider | hahhaha | 23:55 |
| pupnik | it's playable at 12-16 fps at 800x480, which is pretty good fullscreen SDL performance | 23:56 |
| pupnik | N800 was getting higher fps, indicating that the game logic and compositing is more of a bottleneck than the framebuffer right now | 23:57 |
| pupnik | so reducing bitmaps by 400% size and implementing Xsp should give 20+ fps | 23:58 |
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| NeoStrider | one thing to note | 23:58 |
| NeoStrider | while N800 has faster cpu, it has slower screen performance | 23:59 |
| NeoStrider | so sometimes, 770 can be faster than n800 | 23:59 |
| NeoStrider | (canola has tearing on N800!) | 23:59 |
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