IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2007-07-28

kulvejust a sec00:00
MoRpHeUzkulve: you can try "gmyth-cat -h backend_ip -p backend_port -c 65 > test.mpg" wait about 30 seconds, CTRL+C and try to play test.mpg (mplayer test.mpg)00:00
MoRpHeUzthis should say if gmyth stuff is working correctly00:00
trevarthankulve: make sure you don't have straggler mencoder and/or gmyth processes hung in the background.00:00
kulvetrevarthan: seems that I don't. I do get a different error, if I try again without restartin gms..00:02
kulveMoRpHeUz: no errors on mythtv backend log as far as I can see..00:03
kulveMoRpHeUz: what's the default backend_port..?00:03
MoRpHeUz654300:03
kulveyeah, that's the one I'm using00:04
kulveGLib-CRITICAL **: g_io_channel_write_chars: assertion `channel != NULL' failed00:04
kulveI still get "adding: fizi as a client (events: 0)" in the backend's log..00:05
kulvefizi being my computer..00:05
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MoRpHeUzkulve: strange... =(00:12
MoRpHeUzkulve: with gmyth-cat it doesnt work also ?00:12
kulveno.. Would I need to pass the mysql db passwd and user somehow..?00:13
kulveor maybe it doesn't need anything from mysql..00:14
kulvethe gmyth-ls doesn't say anything unless I provide those00:14
kulvewith passwd and user the ls gives the channel list00:14
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kulveand the gmyth-cat segfaults after the criticals..00:15
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MoRpHeUzkulve: gmyth-cat -h backend_ip -p backend_port -u mythtv -c 65 > test.mpg00:19
MoRpHeUztry this00:19
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kulveinvalid argument. It doesn't understand the -u. I'm just reading the gmyth_cat.c ..00:21
MoRpHeUzkulve: yeah, I didnt write this part of the code so I'm not sure of what is really happening00:22
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kulveMoRpHeUz: [gmyth_socket_receive_response] gmyth_socket.c:1161: Response received from backend: ----- {1[]:[]127.0.0.1[]:[]6543}00:32
kulvethe gmyth-cat connects to backend, gets that at some point and then tries to connect to 127.0.0.1 which is not the backend..00:32
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MoRpHeUzkulve: hhmm....maybe if you try to run mythtv-setup on the backend and besides putting 127.0.0.1 as the backends server putting its "real internal ip" it should work ! =)00:34
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kulveMoRpHeUz: that seemed to fix something ;)00:39
MoRpHeUz=)00:39
pupnikhttp://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=63642#post63642   Pupnik weighs in on how to save Maemo/ITOS and draw enough developers to make ITOS apps best-of-breed.00:40
kulveand that doesn't take cpu at all at the media box..00:40
kulveMoRpHeUz: hmm.. now the cat works, but mplayer doesn't..00:41
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kulve"GET /stream.do?transcoder=mencoder&type=myth&uri=192.168.3.11:6543/livetv/?channel=65 HTTP/1.0" 200 -00:42
MoRpHeUzkulve: try to put this:00:42
kulveError: invalid literal for int()00:42
MoRpHeUzgmyth-cat ...... | mplayer -00:42
MoRpHeUzand see what happens...00:42
kulveworks00:43
pupnikMoRpHeUz: did i see you in the kanotix chat or am i halluciremembering that?00:43
unique311it works00:43
unique311smc started in scratchbox00:43
MoRpHeUzpupnik: maybe halluciremembering hehe what should be kanotix ? =)00:43
pupnikok sorry - kanotix was a debian-based distribution/livecd00:44
MoRpHeUzkulve: ok...so it should be a detail somewhere..00:44
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MoRpHeUzpupnik: no problem.. =)00:44
MoRpHeUzkulve: try  to use this uri:00:44
unique311pupnik, good news00:44
pupnikway cool!00:44
MoRpHeUzmythtv:mythtv@192.168.3.11:6543/livetv/?channel=6500:44
unique311bigger than freaking smw00:45
unique31130+ maybe00:45
kulveMoRpHeUz: I tried "mplayer http://mythtv:mythtv@192.168.3.11:6543/livetv/?channel=65" and the backend log shows "MythSocket(aca0dfa0:12): Protocol error: 'GET /liv' is not a valid size prefix. 176 bytes pending."00:46
MoRpHeUzkulve: this will not work...it should be00:47
MoRpHeUz> mplayer "http://ip:40000/stream.do?transcoder=mencoder&type=myth&uri=mythtv:mythtv@192.168.3.11:6543/livetv/?channel=65" -nocache00:48
kulveoh00:48
MoRpHeUznote that the address is inside 'double quotes'00:48
kulvesame thing "Error: invalid literal for int()"00:50
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kulveMoRpHeUz: the error continues (dunno if they are just because of the first one):00:55
kulveERROR           Error: Problems while starting streaming.00:55
kulveERROR           localhost.localdomain: code 404, message File not found00:55
pupnik404'd!00:56
MoRpHeUz=/00:57
kulvethat "invalid literal for int" sounds like my url has a wrong syntax..00:59
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MoRpHeUzkulve: or that somebody changed something in the code here and its broken =(01:00
MoRpHeUzkulve: you get errors while using gmencoder also right ?01:01
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kulve** (gmemcoder:31523): WARNING **: Audio elements not found01:02
kulve** (gmemcoder:31523): WARNING **: Invalid uri01:02
kulvethat shows a parameter "-i myth://192.168.3.11:6543/livetv?channel=65" and doesn't even seem to connect to backend..01:02
kulveactually that's missing one / .. But it doesn't affect the situation..01:03
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MoRpHeUzkulve: yeah...I think that only renatofilho_ can answer that right now..maybe they did some change in the last week that broke it =/01:11
kulveMoRpHeUz: I haven't updated the svn trunk for a month..01:12
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MoRpHeUzkulve: hhmm...maybe some bug fix is missing hehe =P01:26
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kulveyeah, I need to update tomorrow01:29
kulveit seems that that int() error is not from uri parsing..01:30
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kulveI'll try more tomorrow, now I'm off to bed01:30
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kulveCould not resolve hostname `svn.sourceforge.net'01:31
kulve..01:31
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unique311pupnik, smc might be the jackpot...01:32
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unique311going to upload the source so you can compile for 77001:32
pupnikyaay!01:32
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pupnikthis is turning into a very good week for gaming01:37
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unique311yes, indeed01:38
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unique311had to compile 1 dependency for it..01:38
unique311sdl_gfx01:38
unique311going to redo everything. and package source for upload.01:38
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unique311i think total fullscreen can be achieved with smw01:40
unique311by modifying one of the source files01:41
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unique311just got smc fullscreen.800x48001:41
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* codebx mentions how reliable the maemo.org site is01:47
milhouseI'm sorry to say that Monkey has died - the hard drive just went on the linux server that was his home :( RIP Monkey... back as soon as I have sourced a new disk01:48
pupnikGoodbye monkey, we hardly knew ye...01:49
milhouseHe'll be back... don't know when...01:49
codebxand some knew thou not at all :(01:49
codebxthee rofl01:49
unique311you mean monkey wasn't real....01:49
unique311omg01:49
pupnikhehe :)01:50
Sulis...what was monkey?01:50
milhouseI knew I should have used that IBM Deathstar hard disk I had lying around... it wasn't being used for a reason! ;)01:50
pupnikthe wisdom, the generosity01:50
milhousemonkey == chat bot01:50
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Sulisah-hah01:50
milhouses/should/shoudn't/01:50
pupnikdeathstar lul01:50
milhouseaye... not well known for reliability01:51
Sulisyes, there has been a lull in deathstar production recently, not enough darth raider arrays around...01:51
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milhousejust going through my collection of hard disks... probably not a good idea to rebuild with an old fujitsu disk from 2000 of undetermined size01:53
milhousemight have to fork out for a big-ish Samsung... they're usually pretty reliable01:53
pupnikI just realize i have almost as many drives as old vhs cassettes01:53
milhousevhs cassettes... sounds familiar... explain? are they like 8-track?01:54
Sulis8 track? that sounds familiar...is that like betamax?01:54
pupnikmy mom bought a svhs VCR two years ago >_< for $40001:55
Sulishehehe01:55
Sulisoops01:55
codebxwhat a deal01:55
milhousewow... let me know if she wants any cassettes I can do a good deal01:55
milhousebest thing i ever did was get a TiVo in 2000... goodbye VHS01:56
pupnikthose get their program lists off the internet?01:56
milhousethey can do01:56
milhousethe original Series 1 TiVos needed to be hacked to use the internet01:57
milhouseSeries 2 and Series 3 TiVo have native support for ethernet and network downloads01:57
unique311pupnik, http://www.divshare.com/download/1389464-87d01:58
unique311if you can try to compile where you store the data file on mmc1 or mmc201:59
unique311going to run different flags to try and get that done..01:59
Suliswhat is it?02:00
unique311secret maryo chronicles source02:00
unique311also place the SDL_gfx source02:01
unique311will only compile ./configure --disable-mmx02:01
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unique311the smc compile without no problems02:02
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unique311did you get the link02:02
pupnik_this channel has the most lurkers i've ever seen02:03
pupnik_no02:03
unique311pupnik_, http://www.divshare.com/download/1389464-87d02:03
unique31120102:03
* celesteh lurks02:03
unique311and at most 10 active02:03
unique311lol02:03
unique311hey02:03
unique311pupnik, smc compile without the use of any flags02:04
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unique311for the SDL_gfx ./configure --disable-mmx02:04
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Sulisis it better with SDL_gfx?02:05
unique311it requires02:05
unique311it02:05
unique311the  games looks good..02:05
Sulisah-hah02:05
unique311its huge with the data files..02:07
pupnik_thanks unique31102:07
unique31130 MB02:07
Sulismeh, i don't have the scratchbox on here at the moment anyway02:07
pupnik_are you going to make a garage page for it?02:07
unique311how can i throw the data files on mmc1 and have it work02:07
unique311no02:07
pupnik_where is the data?  /usr/share/smc ?02:08
pupnik_if so then move the smc dir  to /media/mmc1/games/smc (or whatever)02:09
pupnik_and then make a symbolic link from the /usr/share to the mmc card02:09
pupnik_like for e.g.02:09
unique311usr/local/share02:09
unique311ok02:09
pupnik_ln -s /media/mmc1/games/smc /usr/local/share/smc02:09
unique311it should work?02:10
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pupnik_yeah02:10
unique311cool...02:10
unique311going to see if it all works out..02:10
pupnik_make sure that the /usr/local/share/smc directory is deleted before doing the ln -s command02:11
pupnik_hehe SecretMaemyo02:11
unique311well i'm not on my device yet..02:11
unique311yeah02:11
unique311its coined..02:11
unique311lol02:11
unique311Secret Maemyo Chronicles..02:12
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pupnik_do i need to download data files?02:12
unique311no02:12
unique311all include02:12
unique311you are right man..02:13
unique3118 dls of the source already..02:14
unique311lurkers..02:14
codebxlol02:15
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codebxim eager to toy around with scratchbox and get some stuff going02:15
codebxi have no idea what i'm downloading from that divxshare site though02:16
* celesteh wishes scratchbox could run on OS X02:16
pupnik_got a million errors running make in the SDL_gfx02:16
codebxi really like the sketchy theme02:16
pupnik_/var/tmp/ccEeLEBF.s:4794: Error: bad instruction `movq (%esi),%mm1'02:16
pupnik_/var/tmp/ccEeLEBF.s:4795: Error: bad instruction `movq %mm1,%mm2'02:16
unique311did you run it with the flag02:17
unique311   --disable-mmx02:17
pupnik_aah MAEMO_README -- heh oops02:17
unique311lol02:17
pupnik_il'l have to look at that SDL_gfx.  It looks like something which could speed up other sdl games02:18
pupnik_unique, did you install the SDL_gfx with "make install" after compiling?02:20
unique311yes02:20
unique311if it is not working..02:20
pupnik_checking for SDL_gfxPrimitives.h... no02:21
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pupnik_not sure where those should go yet02:21
unique311you need to run ./autogen.sh  before running ./configure02:21
unique311oh02:21
unique311ldconfig02:21
unique311SDL_gfxPrimitive installed in /usr/local/share02:22
unique311somewhere its not being found..02:22
unique311you can move them to the correct folder..02:22
unique311which is /usr/include/SDL02:22
unique311i remember having to do this02:23
unique311i think it was installed in /usr/local/lib02:23
unique311folder is /usr/local/included/SDL02:24
unique311move the contents to or create a symlink to /usr/local/include/SDL02:25
unique311go with moving  the contents02:25
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pupnik_ahh the headers went into /usr/local/include/SDL  -- moved them to /usr/include/SDL02:27
NeoStriderhey pupnik02:28
NeoStriderim going to test smw now!02:28
pupnik_same deal with the libraries - thx unique31102:28
unique311np02:28
NeoStriderso, whats new?02:28
unique311smc02:29
pupnik_i haven't gotten the .desktop or the maemo-games-startup integration for smw yet02:29
pupnik_compiling unique311's smc :))02:30
NeoStriderunique311, its smw02:32
NeoStriderbut if there is a smc too, i would love to test it02:32
NeoStriderpupnik_, and SDL_mixer?02:32
pupnik_unique311 ok now i have the executable   514368 Jul 28 00:32 smc02:32
unique311wow02:32
unique311in scratchbox...02:33
unique311it runs?02:33
pupnik_you said it's 30 MB of data?02:33
pupnik_i only see 8812    data02:33
unique311not sure02:34
unique311it was pretty big02:34
unique311maybe newer version of data02:35
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unique311you right..02:35
NeoStriderinstalling smw_data02:35
unique3118MB02:35
pupnik_ok it runs - how do you enter a level?02:37
unique311in scratchbox?02:37
unique311or device02:37
pupnik_yeah "return" key goes to next level02:38
unique311on device?02:38
pupnik_in sb02:38
unique311ok02:38
NeoStriderpupnik_ ,64 MB of virtual memory for a 770 is enough (smw)?02:38
pupnik_yes02:38
pupnik_Could not load Level : data/levels/yuki_1.txt02:38
unique311hopefully smc plays nice with memory...02:38
pupnik_hmm02:38
unique311make sure the its in the directory02:39
pupnik_yeah the stuff in /usr/local/share/smc looks kind of in the wrong place02:40
unique311it is..02:40
unique311make install is supposedly broken..02:40
NeoStrideryou two are mario fanatics, right?02:40
NeoStrider(running smw...)02:41
NeoStriderrunning! \o/02:41
pupnik_no not a fanatic02:41
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unique311its looking for them in the source folder02:42
unique311i ran smc from the src folder, so thats why i didn't come across that error02:42
pupnik_ah02:42
unique311hmm...02:42
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NeoStriderWOW! VERY FAST!!!!02:45
NeoStriderand...btw...770 keypad sucks hehhe02:45
pupnik_ok unique311 it was looking for the data from the current directory you're right02:45
pupnik_yep NeoStrider :)02:45
pupnik_this is excellent unique31102:45
unique311all that needs to be fixed..02:46
pupnik_the controls are relaly good02:46
pupnik_how is the scrolling speed on the n800?02:46
pupnik_i think i am inlove with SDL_gfx02:46
NeoStriderme too02:47
unique311lol02:47
NeoStriderI use it extensivly02:47
pupnik_aha!02:47
unique311think smc will be much better.  its an adventure type game.02:47
pupnik_so i can ask you for help with it02:47
unique311saw it on scratchbox and it looks really nice02:48
pupnik_NeoStrider: what is the main advantage of SDL_gfx?  fast layering/transparency/02:48
NeoStriderthe main advantage? not needing to code everything =-P02:49
NeoStriderits faster than the others02:49
NeoStriderbut yeah, it has everything02:49
NeoStriderim using it for both 3D and 2D stuff02:49
NeoStridereven for fading routines02:49
pupnik_ok well now comes the big test smc on 77002:50
NeoStriderand keesj indeed used it for maemo-xmoto02:50
NeoStriderto replace opengl02:50
pupnik_cool cool02:50
NeoStriderI want to test that too =-)02:50
pupnik_well credit to unique311 for making this run on the tablets!02:51
pupnik_and finding smw02:51
unique311smc....maybe..spend a good day on this thing..02:51
pupnik_a lot of these games are obscure and hard to find02:51
unique311google..02:51
unique311i love google.02:51
NeoStriderunique311, so far, the best 3rd party game for the tablet!02:52
unique311just broke xterm02:53
unique311deleted a file i wasn't suppose to..02:53
unique311feck02:53
unique311which smw02:53
unique311i think smc might beat that02:53
NeoStriderdunno02:53
NeoStriderbut smw is pratical02:54
NeoStrideris a instant game02:54
pupnik_yep02:54
NeoStridersmc seem to be a more strategical (you will need to think a lot with those keypads =-P)02:54
unique311computer keeps kicking my ass02:54
unique311don't like it much02:54
pupnik_you can set difficulty down02:54
pupnik_i had to02:54
pupnik_under gameplay02:54
unique311if you have to go lower than defualt..02:55
pupnik_i also limited fps to about 5002:55
unique311no reason in playing the game02:55
unique311sound still works with the fps change?02:55
pupnik_hey i started playing doom on "I can win" :)02:55
pupnik_yeah but music is broken02:55
pupnik_NeoStrider: do you get continuous music playback without errors?02:55
NeoStrideroops....smw game a error02:55
pupnik_i get errors loading song02:55
NeoStriderno...no music at all02:55
pupnik_ok same here - sdl has music loading/playback routines and it says format not recognized here02:56
NeoStriderx terminal: Error Loading Music: Module format not recognized02:56
unique311the file are ogg02:56
unique311maybe you need to install the libvorbis and all the other ogg stuff02:57
pupnik_original game does not have those dependencies02:57
unique311all the music files are ogg02:57
NeoStriderwhy dont you produce a thinner version without music? I guess the 770 cant handle it anyway02:57
unique311but can the n800 or the 770 do ogg without the libraries?02:57
pupnik_i think the answer is in SDL_mixer02:58
NeoStriderno02:59
NeoStriderthe DSP only gets mp3 and aac, I guess02:59
NeoStriderand of course, wave02:59
NeoStriderim going to use low quality wave for angstron02:59
NeoStridersmaller download sizes02:59
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unique311make new music file03:00
unique311s03:00
unique311and hope for the best03:00
NeoStriderfor me, smw is just fine03:01
NeoStriderwhen Im using the 770, Im always listening to some music anyway03:01
NeoStriderbut, did smw passed the "home key" test?03:01
pupnik_i don't think any sdl games do03:02
pupnik_out-of-the-box03:03
NeoStriderno03:03
NeoStriderwell03:03
NeoStriderangstron does pass it...sometimes03:03
pupnik_ah - you make some kind of gtk wrapper around the sdl window?03:05
NeoStridermaemo-games-startup?03:06
pupnik_yeah ok03:08
pupnik_unique311: i get about - guessing 12-15 fps in smc03:08
unique311cant get it working03:09
unique311got my libraries all screwed..03:09
unique311send me your sdl_gfx03:09
NeoStriderwhy dont you guys do like me? I included sdl_gfx on my source03:09
pupnik_i had to manually put in libSDL_ttf, libSDL_gfx and (maybe) libphysfs03:11
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unique311location?03:12
NeoStridertakes less work to the end user03:12
pupnik_into /usr/lib on the device03:12
pupnik_NeoStrider: makes sense!\03:12
pupnik_i can tar up those files but they were built under gregale03:12
NeoStriderinternet tablets are not hackers only stuff anymore03:12
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pupnik_right03:13
pupnik_those install links on maemo.org are great03:13
NeoStrideryeah03:13
pupnik_automagically add the correct repository etc - great iea03:13
pupnik_idea03:13
NeoStriderhow did you guys created that data deb for smw?03:13
pupnik_dpkg-buildpackage creates it03:14
NeoStridergoood...right now, the user has to place the data files on /media/mmc1....ugly03:14
NeoStriderand to create  a repository, whats needed?03:15
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pupnik_i think a 20MB data .deb is a bad idea03:16
pupnik_needs 40MB temp space on / while unpacking03:16
NeoStrideryeah, but if you look , most user data goes on mmc03:17
pupnik_that's where the game data should go, IMO03:17
NeoStriderif .install could handle that, I would agree with you03:17
NeoStriderbut right now, it cant =-(03:18
pupnik_so i think for the final version, the location for game data should be user-selectable during install03:18
pupnik_right03:18
NeoStriderim thinking about making two versions available03:18
NeoStriderone, very hackable, and other end-user-friendly03:18
unique311mouse point in smc03:18
NeoStriderthats other point I would like to discuss03:19
pupnik_did you rebuild the libs unique or still want them?03:19
unique311i have them..03:19
NeoStriderSDL_ShowCursor...with angstron, it takes about 5 seconds to work03:19
unique311symlink was missig03:20
NeoStrider(if im getting annoying, please let me know =-P)03:20
pupnik_no NeoStrider03:20
NeoStridercan you guys test the cursor thing and tell me?03:20
pupnik_NeoStrider: the 'swirl' animations for respawning in smc are very slow for 770 - you can change that to "door" animation in settings - much much faster03:21
NeoStrideri still dont have smc! gimme the urls!03:22
pupnik_http://www.divshare.com/download/1389464-87d03:22
pupnik_can i test tomorrow NeoStrider ?03:23
unique311How did you get pass the could not load level errors on the device pupnik_03:23
NeoStridersure03:23
NeoStriderno hurry03:23
NeoStridernot primary issue anyway03:23
NeoStriderthe radar screen is my main concern now03:23
pupnik_unique311: i put the smc in my /home/user  then i did ln -s /usr/local/share/smc/data data03:24
NeoStriderinstructions?03:24
unique311k03:24
NeoStriderput it on /home/user and chmod?03:24
pupnik_this build of smc wants the level data in $pwd/data/levels03:24
NeoStridermuch better =-)03:25
NeoStrideri will put it on ~/MyDocs/.documents03:25
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NeoStriderwhat OS versions you guys tried smc?03:26
pupnik_2006 2.203:26
pupnik_hmm no music oggs here03:26
unique311NeoStrider,  latest03:28
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NeoStridermine too03:28
NeoStriderN800 had music?03:29
unique311still struggling with data03:29
pupnik_no the music .oggs are missing from the tgz03:29
pupnik_but i'm not getting the ogg sound effects, which are here03:30
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unique311you need to dl those from sourceforge03:31
unique311not sure if i included the music folder03:31
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NeoStrider"link not found"03:33
NeoStridersmc is a symlink...not a binary...I feel stupid03:33
unique311search for secret maryo chronicles at sourceforge03:33
NeoStriderI saw the screenshows03:34
NeoStridershots03:34
NeoStridervery nice03:34
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NeoStriderwell fellows...ill be working on angstron...if you want to say or ask anything, say my name...3 times....beetlejuice...beetlejuice...BEETLEJUICE!03:37
pupnik_ok cheers NeoStrider03:38
NeoStridercheers =-)03:38
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pupnik_unique311: pls fix so that we get sound and music :)03:46
unique311i can't get it to run on my device...03:47
unique311lol03:47
unique311i suck03:47
pupnik_what does it complain about?03:47
pupnik_i had to make a "data" directory and move the levels into that03:48
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unique311couldn't open overworlds description file : /smc/share/sms/world/workds.txt03:48
unique311i compile smc with --prefix=/smc03:48
unique311think that was my error03:48
pupnik_oh03:48
unique311gonna compile with no flags..03:48
unique311tried all sorts of symlinks..03:48
unique311non want to work03:49
pupnik_mine ended up in /usr/local/share/smc/world/03:49
pupnik_with no flags03:49
unique311only 7mb03:49
pupnik_ok i'll try to find out why smw and smc music isn't playing03:49
unique311ogg03:50
unique311maybe you should ask nymh at#secretmaryo03:50
unique311i got some compiling to do03:50
pupnik_ok03:50
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disqgah. i deleted a file (ext3fs, raid0+1) and the diskspace won't come back03:54
disq(want my missing 30gig back)03:54
derfdisq: Does some process still have it open?03:55
disqthere's an in-use loop module and a [loop0] process but it doesn't show up in mount output (the file was a diskimage)03:56
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derfAt 30GB, I guessed.03:57
unique311pupnik...with the music folder it is 30+mb03:57
unique31137 to be exact03:57
pupnikyeah the bigmusic03:58
codebxthe n800 email prog is kind of gay03:58
codebxi can't believe i couldnt have it store my emails on my sd card03:59
codebxif there was ever a time i felt like kung fu fighting, it'd be right now03:59
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pupnikderf, do you know if the serial port on the 770 (n800?) is always active?04:03
derfcodebx: I can't even get it to check my mailbox.04:03
derfpupnik: No idea.04:03
derfcodebx: It fills up RAM until it crashes.04:03
derfAnd then reboots the device.04:03
* pupnik is imagining a dirty hardware hack for dpad and rhs buttons tied to 5v and connecting to a few pins on the serial device :D04:05
codebxlol04:08
codebxim downloading that claws email client from maemo04:08
codebxbut i really like the notification thing that's set up on the left hand side of the screen when you get new email (the two people flash)04:09
codebxkind of a shame the email client needs work04:09
derfI wouldn't know.04:09
codebx=[04:09
derfI've never been notified of new mail.04:09
codebxlol04:10
codebxwell, you're not missing much anyways04:10
derfI just use webmail.04:10
codebxyeah i just like to have stuff stored locally sometimes04:10
codebxsince i only have a wifi connection at home normally04:10
codebxill tell you if the claws email prog is any good04:11
disqhuh. i love microsoft. why. virtualpc saved my crashed vmware image. which had lots of data and sourcecode and which the last backup is dated 2005 (ouch)04:15
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pupniklardman|gone: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/24295   some talk about Jazelle and GDB04:27
bmidgleyis there still no audio player for n800 that can do bookmarks?04:31
pupnikcan you explain what that is?04:32
disqbmidgley: soon. not too soon though04:32
bmidgleypupnik: for audio books... if you quit the player it remembers where you were04:34
acydlordlol, did you guys know the n800 has a myspace profile?04:35
bmidgleyhe's more popular than that shady 770 character04:35
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acydlordindeed04:36
acydlordvastly more popular than that tom fellow04:36
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zorb_can someone tell me how to send enter key press with vnc viewer?04:48
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pupnikwhat device is running vnc viewer?04:49
zorb_im running (.6?) on n80004:50
zorb_need to login to a suse box. need to send enter. :/04:50
pupnikdoes the center button on the dpad send enter?04:50
zorb_i try..04:50
zorb_no it brings up the giant keyboard04:51
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zorb_kind of a strange thing to leave out. there is line feed in the giant keyboard but its not sending as a keypress.04:53
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trevarthandisq: MS lover.04:54
trevarthandisq: what happened man? Disk failure?04:55
disqtrevarthan: during a clean reboot, vmware decided to kill the disk image04:56
trevarthanwow. never had that happen before.04:57
disqevery vmware tool i tried (all of which share the same codebase of course) were exiting with the same error code04:57
trevarthanyou weren't running the image from your n800's external sd slot, were ya? :)04:57
zorb_waa. well maybe ill file a bug report. if i can find where to send one.04:57
disqthen i found a virtual pc image converter and converted away.04:58
disqheh. if it didn't work my next step was going to be turning the diskimage into raw and paying the namesys guys for fsck/fix04:58
trevarthanyou been working on that all day, eh?04:59
trevarthanthat's a shame.04:59
zorb_n800 can be a vmware host??04:59
trevarthanno. I was making fun of a bug.05:00
trevarthansdhc bug?05:00
trevarthan_Monkey!05:00
disqi was waiting on that all day05:00
disq30gig imagefile, not enough space on the host machine, copied over to some other boxes etc05:00
trevarthanyeah. that sucks. Well, I'm glad you got it working again. :)05:01
disqi could've gone to the isp and plugged in another hdd and it would've been faster. but then i wouldn't have time to relax and plan my next step05:01
pupnikzorb_: see this bug report https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=269&group_id=119&atid=50505:02
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trevarthanwho owns _Monkey, btw?05:02
pupniki think milhouse05:02
trevarthanah05:02
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trevarthandisq: I watched one of those videos. He's a funny guy.05:04
disqyeah05:04
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trevarthangstreamer sucks. They say I'm supposed to look for EOS (instead of EOF in mplayer), but it doesn't work half the time.05:06
disqdid you check ukmp?05:06
trevarthanyeah. you know how konttori does it?05:07
zorb_pupnik: bingo, thanks05:07
trevarthanhe checks to see if last second = current second. :)05:07
disq:)05:07
trevarthansadly, I think that's the only way that works.05:08
disqwhat happens if you miss the EOS?05:08
trevarthanIt sits there, indefinitely.05:08
disqdoes it sit there silently, or garbage etc?05:08
disqah, ok05:08
trevarthanIt keeps crashing on me too. I think konttori found ways around that too though. I couldn't get UKMP to crash on the hour long car ride home.05:09
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trevarthanIt's kinda cool when it works. Much faster switching songs than mplayer. And less CPU, I think. But I just wish it wasn't so picky.05:10
disqyou could also use osso-mediaserver but if you hit a bug there's no way to fix it anytime soon :)05:10
disqthere's a dbus method you can call to get it to play a file, and some other callbacks to get position and length05:11
trevarthanhuh. neato. I'll do that if I can't get gst to stop crashing, but I figure I can fix it even if I have to copy every line from UKMP. :)05:12
disqi have the method to call somewhere, and i posted the getposition thingy to bugzilla (search for "mediaserver dbus")05:12
disq(or "dbus api")05:12
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unique311speed is good on the n80005:22
trevarthanspeed?05:23
codebxspeed the movie?05:24
codebxthe speed isn't absolutely terrible but05:24
codebxi could probably draw the frames of movies faster than they play embedded in the browser05:24
unique311secret maryo05:24
trevarthanI'm so annoyed. We've had MP3s for how long? 15 years? And there still isn't a single player for linux that gets MP3 length correct with VBR MP3s.05:40
trevarthanEveryone says they have it working in CVS, or SVN, or some side project. I don't believe them. And even if I did it doesn't help me any.05:40
unique311pupnik,  SMW sound packs are all wav...SMC on the other hand are ogg...05:42
pupnikYes, we might end up just transcoding effects to wav and music to mp3 and running that through gstreamer-dsp05:44
disqwe've had mp3's for around 10 years i think05:44
unique311the sound effects on smw work.05:44
pupnikyeah they're wav05:44
unique311i just found some ogg in smw...music folder05:45
unique311level music05:45
pupnikI don't believe you're hearing those oggs in-game05:46
unique311http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS9PxxfNYOA05:46
unique311i'm not hearing the ogg.  just the sound effects of when i jump or hit something with my head.05:47
pupnikright05:47
unique311those are the wav files05:47
pupniki got killed on level 2 btw05:47
pupniki suck :)05:47
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unique311the speed is descent right05:48
trevarthanwhich game are you guys playing?05:48
pupnikbtw i think the 770 is as fast as your 800 on smc05:48
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unique311the video shows off secret maryo  chronicles05:48
pupnikSecret Maryo World05:48
unique311and also world05:48
trevarthanSuper Mario World?05:48
pupnikSecret Maryo Chronicles :P05:48
trevarthanoh... coool.05:50
trevarthanI wanna play05:50
pupnikpupnik.de/smw.html05:50
trevarthandammit. I locked up gst. How the heck do I get it to work again now?05:50
pupnikthe other one isn't packaged yet05:50
unique311now to figure out how to get sound working05:51
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unique311pupnik, the music folder is supposed to be dl seperate for smc05:52
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trevarthanI'm going to have to fricking reboot now. geez.05:53
trevarthananyone here have an xbox 360? I need to let out some frustration on gears.05:55
trevarthanI hate rebooting. I'm always terrified it won't come back up after I got the white screen that one time.05:57
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trevarthanAnd of course canola and osso-media feel obligated to scan for new media on boot. so I have to go killing processes and stuff. what a pain.05:58
pupnikthat's intended behavior?05:58
pupnik<groin kick>05:59
trevarthanmetalayer-crawler can't be killed either. restarts itself.05:59
unique311pupnik, ogg.garage.maemo.org05:59
trevarthanjust have to wait for like 10 minutes. ugh.05:59
trevarthanoff to kill some Locusts. BBL.06:00
pupnikyou could edit rc2.d or whatever06:00
pupnikok cyu06:00
pupnikoh man unique311 ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ-gdhWRcW0&NR06:01
pupnikthe sounds... :/  not so good06:01
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unique311lol06:03
unique311definitely need an upgrade06:04
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unique311error Loading Music: Module format not recognized....M3_Boss.ogg06:25
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disqtrevarthan: chmod a-x /etc/init.d/metalayer-crawler006:29
disqtrevarthan: also having sardine or another os2007 on mmc helps with that reboot feeling. since i got sardine on mmc i'm not worried to break stuff (system libs, config files, init scripts, all that)06:31
NeoStriderunique311, im watching the video....very funny!06:34
NeoStridersound like modified supertux06:35
NeoStriderand I actually liked some of the sounds06:37
unique311you change those ogg files to something the n800 recognize.i06:37
unique311yeah the sound effects are bad06:37
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NeoStriderno06:38
NeoStriderI actually liked some of them06:38
NeoStriderlike the death sound heheh06:38
pupnikit's like open-source games where the graphics artist can't create consistent looking visuals06:38
pupniksame goes for sounds.  commercial games have a consistent style in sounds06:38
NeoStridersome of FreeDoom graphics are like this06:38
NeoStriderbut they are correcting it06:38
unique311so with ogg not working...any ideas on how to get sound going06:38
NeoStriderwave?06:39
pupnikchange fx to wav06:39
NeoStridersome good wave compression06:39
pupnikless cpu too06:39
unique311the size of the package will increase, no?06:39
NeoStriderthe DSP will handle it06:39
pupnikor change them to wav on load06:39
NeoStriderif you do it carefully,no06:39
pupnikdsp will handle what06:39
NeoStriderdsp will handle compressed wave, I guess06:40
pupniki converted Exult to use gstreamer DSP mp3 music06:40
NeoStrideryou dont need stereo for this kind of sfx06:40
pupnikright06:40
NeoStriderand you can safely use 22Khz06:40
NeoStrider8bit or 16bit...thats something you will have to try06:40
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unique311not rushing.06:41
NeoStriderthat will save a lot of space06:42
NeoStriderdo you know a linux (preferably gtk) app for doing this downsample?06:45
pupniksox06:45
trevarthanaudacity?06:46
trevarthanmy personal favorite.06:46
trevarthanbut yeah, for bulk, sox.06:46
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NeoStrideraudacity?06:46
NeoStrideri use audacity, but couldnt find how to do it06:46
NeoStriderwhere?06:46
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trevarthanhow to downsample?06:47
NeoStrideryeah06:47
NeoStriderhow to make it mono and downsample it?06:47
trevarthanyou just set the project rate.06:47
trevarthanlower left corner on my version06:48
NeoStriderright!06:48
NeoStrideri never saw that!06:48
disqtrevarthan: should we rename the project to kaju? :P06:49
trevarthannot sure about mono. it's got recording settings in edit->prefs->Audio IO. But that wouldn't convert to mono. just record mono.06:50
trevarthan:) yeah, maybe06:50
NeoStriderunique311: a 191Kb OGG music , using 22Khz , 16 bit mono, went to 1.3 MB06:50
NeoStridernot that small, but not that big06:50
trevarthan_Monkey06:50
NeoStriderfor short files, if you play nice, you can get some good sizes06:50
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trevarthandisq: I think gst might be ready for use. Just gotta re-wire the buttons now.06:51
disqi'll try and make the repeat mode changes sometime, (one of my nameservers still down) possibly before the release06:52
disqcanola doesn't have a repeat mode, ukmp's is crappy, etc06:53
trevarthank. I'll jump on those ukmp-scanner changes next. Then it's release time! woo!06:53
disqhave you applied for a garage project? i can apply too if you want06:54
trevarthanno, I haven't. if you want to, it would save me some time.06:54
disqit's trivial because i want to sign and upload the debs to extras. mm, tho, don't need a project page for that06:54
disqok i'll now. waiting for innodb-backup to finish06:55
trevarthando we have the deps correct? i.e. Python 2.5? no mplayer dep now...06:55
disqi didn't check lately, should be. we'll check when it's time to release06:56
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pupnikunique311: pupnik.de/SecretMaemyo_Sounds_mono_22khz_wav.tgz07:00
unique311they work?07:02
unique311how did you get them done so fast07:02
pupniki used oggdec to decode them all and sox to convert them all to 22khz mono07:03
pupniktesting now07:03
disqtrevarthan: applied. as soon as it's verified i'll add you as leader07:06
trevarthanok. cool. thanks.07:06
pupnikbtw playing one of those original wav files with mplayer caused my X screen to draw all kinds of trippy stuff07:10
pupnik*behind* the current terminal window07:11
disqtrevarthan: "self.seconds = int(value / 1000000000)", that 10^x should be gst.SECOND i think07:11
trevarthansweet.07:12
disqthere's also gst.MSECOND for milliseconds iirc07:12
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unique311check it out07:14
unique311could not load 16-bit audio device07:14
unique311reason no available audio device07:14
pupnikin scratchbox?07:14
unique311no07:14
unique311on device07:14
unique311in scratchbox it said something about alsa07:15
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unique311in scratchbox the error is..07:16
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unique311ASLA lib pcm.c:2061(snd_pcm_open_conf) cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa_lib/libsound_module_pcm_also_dsp.so07:17
unique311followed by warning : Could not init 16-bit Audio07:17
unique311-  Reason : no available audio device07:18
pupnikaha07:18
unique311mario war is using correct code..07:19
unique311can't we just steal the sound portion of war and make it work with chronicles07:20
pupnikprobably07:20
pupniksounds work here though :)07:22
pupnikwoop, not every one though07:23
unique311hmmm07:23
unique311how did you make that happen?07:24
pupniki changed the .ogg to .wav in the source, where it was playing sound files07:24
unique311which game?07:24
pupniksmc07:24
unique311i did the same and no sound07:25
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pupnikno ideas yet07:26
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pupnikif you go to 0.97/src and do a grep SOUNDS_DIR *.cpp you should have all the pAudio->PlaySound( SOUNDS_DIR "/beep_1.wav" ); as wavs07:28
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pupnikthis is probably the first side-scroller game i've seen on the nokia that runs at decent framerate07:32
pupnikunique311: do you want to test this version and see if it works on n800?07:34
pupnikmaybe there's something about libSDL that's different on bora?07:34
disqi'm off to bed, night07:34
pupnikcheers disq07:34
unique311i'm using 9707:35
trevarthandisq: Feels so good to get this off my plate: https://www.guardiani.us/projects/kagu/changeset/24807:35
trevarthannight disq07:35
unique311pupnik, let me get your version...07:36
unique311forgot mario war is also the one you compiled..07:36
unique311and i get sound of it07:36
pupnikpupnik.de/smc.tgz07:37
unique311going to need the data files07:39
pupnikpupnik.de/SecretMaemyo_Sounds_mono_22khz_wav.tgz07:39
unique311the complete data folder07:40
unique311including the maps..07:40
pupnikok07:41
unique311i compiled my datadir with a different flag..07:41
unique311not sure you smc binary is going to work with it..07:41
pupnikjust make a symlink07:42
pupnikln -s path-to-your-data/smc /usr/local/share/smc07:43
unique311not working for me.....07:43
pupnikthen you have a path-to.../smc/data directory07:44
pupnikand in the data directory you have your levels directory07:44
pupnikls -l /usr/local/share/smc/data/levels07:44
pupnik-rwxr-xr-x    1 user     root        12646 Jul 27 13:51 all.txt07:44
pupnik-rwxr-xr-x    1 user     root        44641 Jul 27 13:51 boder_1.txt07:44
pupnikand when i cd to /usr/local/share/smc && ls07:46
pupniki see07:46
pupnikdata     font     music    pixmaps  sounds   world07:46
pupnikafk breakfast07:47
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trevarthanI just updated Kagu's FEATURES and screenshots, https://www.guardiani.us/projects/kagu/browser/trunk/FEATURES , https://www.guardiani.us/projects/kagu/wiki/ScreenShots if anyone is interested. We're hoping to make a 1.0 release sometime this weekend. :)08:02
roundeyewhere can i read about flashing my 77008:02
pupnikthanks for the screenies trevarthan - everybody loves screenshots08:02
pupnik:)08:02
trevarthannp. just for you pupnik. :)08:03
pupnikthat gets the covers from a public server?08:03
pupnikroundeye: there's a flashing howto on maemo.org08:04
unique311kagu better than UKMP?08:04
roundeyei was looking with no luck08:04
roundeyei will look some more08:04
trevarthanyeah. it also pulls them from covers.jpg or folders.jpg if you've got 'em already from canola.08:04
unique311that 13 album cover bug in UKMP sucks..08:04
pupnikroundeye: http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithLinux08:04
roundeyethank you08:04
unique311trevarthan, can kagu do the kinetic scrolling thingie?08:05
trevarthanI'm certainly in competition with UKMP. We have a different feature set.08:05
trevarthanYeah, kinetic scrolling was in Kagu before UKMP, actually.08:05
unique311any album cover issues?08:05
trevarthannot that I'm aware of. Other than memory limitations.08:06
unique311does it come in black?08:06
trevarthanKagu uses a lot more RAM than UKMP. I hope to fix that in the future.08:06
trevarthannot yet. Hoping to get some theme authors on board.08:06
trevarthanI suck with graphics.08:06
unique311ok...08:06
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trevarthanI'm still playing catch up to UKMP in a lot of areas also. I'm hoping to have a full multi-row scroll widget a few releases from now, in addition to the detail widget you see in the screen shots.08:07
unique311i'll give the Kagu a shot..08:08
unique311meaning behind the name?08:08
trevarthancool. let us (me and disq) know if you like it. Yeah, Kagu is an endangered bird. But, if it were an acronym (it's not), it would stand for Kagu Ardently Granulates Ukmp, because Kagu is08:09
trevarthana rewrite of ukmp with a heavy focus on object oriented design.08:09
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trevarthanI also plan to implement bookmarking support for audio books in the near future, even if I have to rewrite mplayer to do it. :)08:11
unique311I download  billboards top 100 of the year08:11
unique311in UKMP only 30 shows up..08:11
trevarthanbut most people probably aren't too interested in audio books.08:11
unique311the rest of the songs are mia08:11
trevarthanright. no scrolling in the song list08:11
pupnikdid you see that i had a wav file here that screwed up mplayer/X?  it was awesome08:11
trevarthanKagu scrolls.08:11
unique311cool08:11
trevarthanpupnik: no, I must have missed that. :) I'm not surprised.08:12
unique311then again when that new canola hit....08:12
trevarthanyeah, I fully expect Kagu to be obsoleted by the new canola. But I don't think it'll be out for a while.08:14
pupnikthe people doing media players for the tablets are doing great work08:14
pupnikoh i'm sure you can find your niche vs canola08:14
trevarthanThen again, I also don't expect canola to do A2DP. I think Kagu may be the only A2DP player for quite a while. The mplayer/a2dpd process management is rather tricky. It took me a while to get it right.08:15
pupnikis it true that only one bluetooth device can be paired at a time?08:15
trevarthanCrap, songs are prematurely skipping to the next song after a certain amount of time with the new GST code. I'll have to fix that later today. Gotta get some sleep for now.08:16
pupnikdomez bien trevarthan08:16
trevarthanunique311: If you run into that bug, don't worry, I'll get it fixed.08:16
unique311k08:17
trevarthancya pupnik. Keep up the good work with Maryo. Can't wait to play that later today. :)08:17
pupnikunique311: was the guy who got it runnig - i just did the sound files08:17
pupnikand they SUCK08:17
trevarthan:)08:18
pupnikunique311: what do you think about using the sounds from smw instead?08:18
unique311better08:18
unique311original mario08:18
cesmantrevarthan: rest well08:19
cesmankeep up the good work!08:19
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roundeye ok so i flashed my 770 and i went just like it said it would in the howto except it whole time it just a had white screen with light grew bars..... anyone herd of @#$% like this08:23
roundeyethis was the problem in the first place and why i was flashing. i had it 5 days and then i turned it on and it had the distored display08:25
pupnikwere they horizontal bars moving down the screen?08:25
pupnikslowly08:25
roundeyeat first but now after flashing it they stay still08:26
roundeyeit is moving a little bit now that i look closly08:27
pupnikyou had the device turned off, you started the flasher, then turned the device on and held the home key down while turning it on?08:27
roundeyeyes08:27
roundeyewhen i let it boot up now with the distorted screen it made some nosies just like the firdt time i turned it on08:28
pupnikwell i've seen the bars twice before and they frighten me08:28
pupniknever when flashing though08:28
roundeyewill the 770 boot with no batery?08:29
pupnikdont know08:29
roundeyethe only way i could get it to turn on was by putting the batter in08:29
roundeyethe recomended way of the charge did not work08:30
roundeyebut i held down the home key while i put the battery in it08:30
roundeyei only heldthe home key for about 5 sec. after it started08:31
pupnikcan you turn it off and back on now?08:31
pupnikdid the flasher finish?08:31
roundeyeyes08:31
roundeyeb4 i came nac into #maemo08:32
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roundeyeimnot supposed to hold the home key down for the whole prosess am i?08:32
pupniki just held it down a couple seconds08:32
roundeyei have flashed successfully 4 times now with the same result08:33
pupnikyou see the bars every time you turn it on?08:34
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roundeyethe flasher-2.0 finishes transfering08:34
roundeyeyes i see them every time08:34
roundeyebut them move almost like the video drivers are screwed up08:34
pupnikit doesn't look like a regular software problem, right?  the screen goes all *strange*08:35
pupnikkind of strange-white, and there's some junk on the right side of the bar?08:35
roundeyealmost like the gui is loading but the video drivers a screwd08:35
roundeyeeverything is squished the the middle of the screen but verry distroted08:36
pupniki don't know what causes it08:37
roundeyei didnt want to have to rma it because i just got the damn thing08:37
pupnikmaybe if you can take a picture and upload it08:37
roundeyebut it look like im going ot have to08:37
pupniksomeone will know what to do08:37
roundeyei could but what else can you do but flash it ?08:37
pupnikyeah maybe08:37
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pupnikyou say it wouldn't turn on when you held the power-on button down?08:38
pupnikyou know you have to hold it down for a couple of seconds?08:38
roundeyeyes08:38
roundeyei have been non stop with it since it got it08:38
pupnikmaybe you can find something on internettalk.com forums, or on the maemo-users mailing list08:39
pupnikbut otherwise looks like an RMA08:40
pupniki'd take some pictures though for the record08:40
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roundeyewill do see ya latter08:42
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roundeyehey im bacc with a quick question08:49
roundeyewhat is cold flashing?08:49
pupniki think it's something they do with the serial port08:50
unique311k, after this i'm done08:52
unique311symlink is not needed08:52
unique311in preference ini you can tell smc where the data files are located08:52
pupnikaha!08:53
unique311still no sound..08:53
unique311using your sound pack08:54
unique311maybe i cant tell it where to find sound..08:54
unique311or better yet which device to use08:54
pupnikif you quit, you should see errors if it can't load the wav files08:54
unique311no available audio devices08:55
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unique311laters09:39
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roundeyecmon guys it friday night wheres the action10:06
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pupniknot much right now10:08
pupnikbuilding latest smc to see how it plays on a real desktop10:08
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roundeyehow long have youahd your 770?10:14
roundeyefrom what ive been reading they break alot and there are many bad stories10:15
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pupnikzzzi have no idea how the quality control is.  mine has been solid and i've dropped it on concrete a few times10:19
roundeyehow long have you had it10:20
pupnikzzz8 mon10:20
roundeyemust have gota bad one10:20
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gpddon't suppose anyone has heard if it is possible to use multimap.com with maemomapper10:33
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HumanPenguinHi folks12:01
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whaq_hi folk12:24
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whaq_so when one is a human penguin.. what traits from each species are present on the speciment..?12:25
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HumanPenguinBasically I spend all day whining cos its too freaking hot here in GA. and eat a lot of sushi12:37
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nitrogenDoes anybody else feel completely exasperated by the ridiculously broken SDK howto on maemo.org12:43
HumanPenguinWell as I am trying to workout how to get it working for the first time as we type. Yeah just a little frustrated.12:45
nitrogenI've spent hours trying to get things to work12:45
nitrogenI'm in the same boat12:45
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HumanPenguinI downloaded the Qemu instance got nowhere12:46
nitrogenI've got to the point of having a qemu-arm scratchbox target set up, but it's missing all of the nokia files, even though I extracted what I'm guessing is the right rootstrap12:46
nitrogenalso annoying is that scratchbox forces the use of sb-menu, while the howto is for sb-config12:47
HumanPenguinnods I am just looking at the target stuff. so you beat me.12:47
nitrogenI actually managed to get the nested X environment working, but whenever I open a menu on the simulated device the menu disappears12:48
HumanPenguinOh I am way behind you. I downloaded the 4.0 scratchbox stuff got it running just got past the add user stuff. I am now trying to workout what all this target stuff is about. First time trying any xcompile stuff so I am a little slow12:50
nitrogenI'm working with a 770, so I'm doing the 2.2 stuff, but having the same issues12:51
nitrogenI think I just found the real rootstrap file though12:52
HumanPenguinHmm I have a target sellected but in the Select qemu-arm cpu transparency there was no transparency options just none12:56
nitrogenI had to install the scratchbox-devkit-cputransp-1.0.2-i386.tar.gz file to get those options12:58
nitrogenbut the options I got were very different from the ones in the howto12:58
HumanPenguinok I think I have found my rootstrap. Lets see if we can get smoke from a vm12:59
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Quinlan^Looks pretty lively in here...13:10
HumanPenguinmuch noob frustration is affot13:11
bilboedis there a package providing the gstreamer utils, like gst-inspect, gst-launch, etc...13:11
HumanPenguins/affot/afoot13:12
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devbilboed: gstreamer0.10-tools13:19
bilboedyeah, I needed to activate the red-pill mode13:20
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bilboedhmm... no gdp elements available :(13:23
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whaq_no... n800.. nearby..13:36
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bilboedthis is weird, there isn't the gdp plugin in the gst-plugins-base packages13:42
bilboedor gst-plugins-base-extra13:42
bilboedanybody has it compiled for n800 ?13:42
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codebxhi guys!15:49
codebxi like elephants :/15:49
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BladeRunnerFXis someone having a problem to update maemo 3.1 to 3.2 with apt-get? is says that could not resolve 'repository.maemo.org'16:31
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BladeRunneris there a problem with the maemo repository? i'm trying to update from scratchbox and the /etc/apt/sources.list is already configured.16:35
BladeRunnerand there is no fucking manual instalation for the maemo 3.2.16:37
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pupnikzzzhi BladeRunner17:03
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pupnikmaemo.org has been unstable the past couple of days17:04
pupnikthey should have a backup just for the repository, if this keeps happening17:04
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BladeRunnerand there is an alternative to configure the sources.list for a while?17:06
BladeRunnerare you having this problem too?17:07
sp3000BladeRunner: check that your sbox resolv.conf isn't broken17:07
sp3000or missing or whatnot17:07
BladeRunnerin the armel target the /etc/resolv.conf has only the line: nameserver 127.0.0.117:10
BladeRunneris that it?17:11
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BladeRunnersp3000: are you having any trouble with apt-get update inside scratchbox?17:14
sp3000BladeRunner: unless you have a name server on the local machine, that wouldn't work17:14
sp3000you can copy in your normal one for instance17:14
BladeRunnerbut wget works fine inside scratchbox i think it's another problem17:16
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pupniksorry i was assuming you were on the tablet17:21
pupnikhi unique31117:22
unique311hello17:27
pupniknew smc 1.0 tarball is out today.  i wish n800 had opengl now :/17:28
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unique311same17:29
BladeRunnersp3000: i'm using dlink (wireless). are you developer?17:29
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unique311more games would be available17:30
agogodoes anyone have the 2nd newest n800 firmware that I can use to dual boot with the latest firmware, and allow video calls to PC?17:31
pupnikBladeRunner: were you ever able to apt-get install your scratchbox?17:31
BladeRunnerpupnik: no. i've recently installed maemo3.1 and tried to update for the 3.217:32
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BladeRunnerbut wget command works inside scratchbox so i think it can resolve names17:33
pupnikmore /scratchbox/etc/resolv.conf17:34
pupniknameserver 192.168.1.117:34
pupniktry your real nameserver17:34
pupnikthere was another issue -- nsswitch17:34
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BladeRunnerthe same problem17:39
BladeRunnerwhat is nsswitch?17:39
pupnikbeing able to wget but not apt-get is a common install problem for scratchbox17:40
pupniki don't remember the solution tho17:41
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agogodoes anyone have the 2nd newest n800 firmware that I can use to dual boot with the latest firmware, and allow video calls to PC?17:56
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shreyashey when i try to install apps on my new maemo n800 it fails on dependency checks but those packages are not there in the lib list18:01
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pupnikWould you pay for an openGL upgrade to N800? :)18:07
pupnikshreyas: more info would be helpful18:08
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N800not sure..18:09
shreyaspupnik: well when i try to install evnice it fails cos it cant find libglade-2.018:10
N800why would i have to pay for it..18:10
shreyasso i am guessing some repo is missing18:10
N800nokia should cough up license money18:10
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BladeRunnerpupnik: i've solved it was the nsswitch the attribute hosts. thanks18:13
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JaffaYay, maemo.org broken again (or at least the planet)18:38
zeenixJaffa: works fine here18:41
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shreyasdo i need to add new repos other than the default ones to install apps like evince and maemo mapper18:43
shreyasby default they seem to have missing dependencies18:43
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pparkerhi, i've got a big problem on my 77018:49
celestehyes?18:49
pparkeri've got dpkg parse error and no root access18:50
pparkerbecomeroot is not installed18:50
celestehlike, you tried the default root and it didn't work or you don't know how to get root?18:50
celestehoh, bummer18:50
celestehum, well, i'm a n00b, so i can't help you too much.18:51
pparkercan i be root without becomeroot installed ?18:51
celestehsu or sudo?18:51
pparkerwhat is default root password on 770 ?18:51
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celestehhttp://board.nokia770hacks.com/How_To/Root_Access_on_the_Nokia_77018:52
celestehhttp://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lob770.html18:55
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pparker"ssh:root:name or service not known18:56
pparker:(18:56
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celestehif you haven't installed the ssh server, that won't work18:57
celestehthe stupid answer is to back up your data and re-flash the device18:57
pparkerit ask me a password, but i don't know it18:57
celestehthe password is: rootme18:58
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pparkerwhen i choose type 'sudo gainroot'18:58
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NeoStriderhello folks18:58
celestehhiiya18:58
pparkerit seems not on 77018:58
celestehi dunno.  i have an 80018:59
NeoStriderpparker18:59
NeoStriderhere it shows something like "activate R&D mode to brick your device"18:59
NeoStrideror something like that18:59
celestehscroll below that18:59
pparkerok i'll backup then flash the device19:00
pparkerthen i'll install becomeroot first !19:00
pparkeri symply need to remove /var/libdpkg/status to correct the problem19:01
pparkerbackup tool saves everything ?19:03
NeoStriderdunno, pparker19:05
pupnikxterm and ssh are the first things i install19:06
pupnikpparker: with ssh you can log-in as root without the becomeroot package or R and D mode19:07
pparkercan you give me an url to download os2007 he ?19:08
pupnikSU-18_2007HACKER_2.2006.47-17_PR_F5_MR0_ARM.bin google19:08
Jaffapparker: ways of becoming root on a 770 or N800: 1) install "becomeroot" package, this simply enabled "sudo gainroot" to bypass the R&D mode check; 2) use a Linux or Mac OS X box to set R&D mode using the flasher, then use "sudo gainroot"; 3) install an SSH server and SSH back into your device from X Terminal as root, use "rootme" as the password19:08
pparkerbut i can't install anything while dpkg is broken19:09
pupnikthen you need to use 219:09
pparkerif i simply flash the device without rd i can install becomeroot ?19:11
pupnikyes but it's not in the default repository (on my 770)19:12
Jaffapparker: if you do a normal reflash, everything not on MMC is wiped and restored to factory settings. The backup/restore tool saves some stuff.19:13
pparkerok19:14
pparkeranother questions:sometimes mplayer hangs the device: no way to shutdown i'm forced to remove battery19:15
pparkerany hints ?19:15
pupniksometimes it takes a while, did you try hitting escape and waiting 20 seconds?19:16
pparkery19:16
pupnikargh now i want more fps on smc19:18
pparkerwich version of flasher ?19:21
pparker3.0 ?19:22
pupnikfor 770 i use flasher-2.019:22
pparkerare you sure ?19:23
pupnikyes19:23
NeoStriderpupnik...i alreadu told you about my idea of creating a repository of maemo games?19:26
pupnikhttp://www.thesearenotgoodenoughformaemoextrasrepository.org?19:27
NeoStriderhahahhahah19:27
NeoStridermaybe =-p19:27
NeoStriderbut I guess smw could be a highlight of it19:27
pupnik:( i am being lazy - once smw has the working .desktop and maemo-games-startup, it should be ready for extras, i think19:29
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pupniki don't like the idea of more repositories, personally19:29
pupniki'd like two repositories for each distro19:30
pupnikone official, and one community19:30
celestehpupnik, i can see your point there19:31
NeoStrideryeah...but I guess its too much bureocracy19:33
NeoStriderburucracy19:33
NeoStriderburocracy19:33
NeoStriderwhat the hell19:33
pparkerflashing is complete19:34
NeoStriderI dont know to write burocracia in english19:34
pparkerhow to reboot device19:34
NeoStriderpparker, 770, right?19:34
pparkery19:34
NeoStriderwhen ready tell me if it works nice =-)19:34
N800how do i go about installing kagu19:36
N800not finding a binary19:36
pparkerit boots on os 2007 !19:37
NeoStriderand how does it looks like?!19:37
pparkervery black ;)19:38
N800trevarthan, hellllllllllllllllllppppppppppppppppp19:38
pupnikbureaucracy is a word i have ttrouble spelling too19:38
pupnikhah someone made a mouse out of a real mouse http://forum.4shared.com/viewtopic.php?p=10458#1045819:38
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trevarthanN800: wazzup?19:45
trevarthankagu?19:46
trevarthanstupid monkey19:46
trevarthanN800: instructions here: https://www.guardiani.us/projects/kagu/wiki19:46
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trevarthanwe'll probably be releasing a binary tomorrow.19:47
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N800ok19:48
N800thats what i was looking for a binary19:48
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PiezzoHello20:13
celestehhi20:13
NeoStriderhello20:13
N800bounjour20:17
N800bonjour20:17
N800yeah the second one20:17
celestehbonjour20:17
NeoStriderbonjour20:19
N800its hot..20:19
N800hate the summer20:19
PiezzoWhat is good .doc .xml reader for 770?20:19
N800big winter fan20:19
NeoStridermy too20:19
NeoStriderim lucky this year20:19
NeoStriderits winter back in brazil20:19
N800can wait for the next ice age20:19
NeoStriderand in summer Im going to canada, to take a biiig winter20:20
N800nice20:20
NeoStriderand maybe Ill buy a N800 =-)20:20
N800finally got meamyo chronicles working...20:21
NeoStridergimme the debs =-)20:21
N800loving it...but needs sound..20:21
N800that i do not have yet...20:21
N800no debs yet20:21
N800you own a 77020:22
frobNeoStrider: to Canada?20:22
N800you should use pupniks binarys20:22
N800ie20:22
NeoStrideryes frob20:22
NeoStridertoronto20:22
frobfamily over there?20:22
NeoStriderno....just a20:22
NeoStriderwhat is the name20:22
NeoStriderintercambio...20:23
pupnikman, don't play the newest SM Chronicles on opengl - on my PC it's like a couple hundred FPS20:23
pupnikmakes the 770 look slowwwww20:23
froboh, exchange student20:23
frobcool20:23
NeoStrideryeah!20:23
NeoStriderare you from canada, frob?20:23
frobI wish20:23
frob:(20:23
NeoStriderwhere are you from?20:23
frob.it20:23
NeoStriderI see20:23
NeoStridercool too20:24
pupnikN800: did you ever look at the framerate on N800?  Hit control-D (synergy) and look at the top left of the screen for FPS20:24
frobnot really20:24
NeoStridernice women20:24
NeoStridernice food20:24
NeoStridernice cities20:24
frobnothing I care about20:24
NeoStriderpupnik: how is smc going?20:24
pupnikfun to play20:24
pupniki am not going to work on smc though20:25
NeoStridersmw is addictive!20:25
pupnikyeah :)20:25
NeoStriderfrob: you dont like all that stuff? sure...brazil has nice women, food and cities too...but sometimes is cool to go somewhere else20:26
N800easily modified20:26
pupnikwould it be easy for you to get the .desktop menu working?20:26
NeoStridermaybe20:26
NeoStriderwhere is the svn again?20:26
frobNeoStrider: but canada has good schools20:26
frobthat's what I meant20:26
N800going to look for a descent packman game...20:26
N800i need pacman also in my life20:26
NeoStriderfrob: sure..I still improve my english...and taste world...and hopefully taste women ;-)20:27
NeoStriderhahahhah....N800: port MAME20:27
frobN800: you need to eat pills while walking back and forth?20:27
NeoStriderwel...actually..there is already mame for maemo20:27
N800soemthing that doesn't involve an emulator20:27
NeoStriderfrob, I do that everyday20:27
NeoStriderI got from ubuntu repos a pacman clone20:28
frobeh ?20:28
NeoStridername...20:28
NeoStrider"PacMan"20:28
NeoStriderits kind of oldish20:28
N800dependencies?20:28
NeoStriderseems like a old X11 game20:28
NeoStriderbut works20:28
NeoStriderthis game seems to work on bare X1120:28
NeoStriderheheh20:28
NeoStriderplaying here: 1995!20:29
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NeoStrider"by Roar thronaes" (ae=that character I dont have in my kb)20:29
NeoStridernot a playstation quality game..looks more like a Atari 7800 game....20:30
NeoStriderbut works20:30
N800might be able to find a recent20:30
N800http://njam.sourceforge.net/20:31
N800here's a good one20:31
N800network modes20:31
NeoStriderlooks much better20:32
N800characters can use some work20:32
N800pupnik....smc not going to bother neither..20:33
N800i'll help with smw20:33
frobmmmm, lan multiplayer games for the n800 using avahi, now that would be cool :)20:33
NeoStriderwe can all improve the games20:33
frob(the problem is finding someone else with the tablet, tough)20:33
NeoStriderN800...some 3D rendered ghosts could do the tirck20:33
NeoStridertrick20:33
N800good with photoshop20:33
NeoStriderthe pacman character itself is good20:34
NeoStridergimp =-)20:34
NeoStriderthe ghosts plain suck hahah20:34
N800i can manage around gimp20:34
N800but still photoshop is much better in my eyes..20:34
NeoStridermaybe it does support translucent sprites20:34
NeoStrideryou're a mono-window guy20:34
N800i have a tablet and gimp doesn't play nice with it20:34
NeoStriderim a pluri-window guy20:35
N800well not really20:35
NeoStridernow there is a good reason20:35
NeoStridernot those whiny bastards20:35
N800i just use a graphire 4 tablet that gimp seems to have problems with20:35
NeoStrideryou have a solid reason to use PS20:35
N800yes20:35
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N800i used gimp to make the palmOS skins20:36
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NeoStridersome designers say the best it to use both20:36
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N800start up ubuntu20:37
NeoStrideri love ubuntu =-)20:38
NeoStridercant wait to get ubuntu mobile20:38
N800oh...20:38
erstazi(:20:38
NeoStrideron a intel mid or a eee pc it will rock!20:38
N800thats going on the tablet20:38
sloth1question: is there a PC jabber client that can do video chat with n800?20:39
NeoStriderjabber does video?20:39
NeoStriderwell...N800 own google chat does that20:39
NeoStridergoogle chat == jabber20:39
N800http://www.chez.com/vidalc/xchomp/xchomp.html20:40
sloth1i heard n800 ot n800 works20:40
N800black & white20:40
N800nice20:40
NeoStriderStylish!20:41
NeoStriderbut I would add some colour to it20:41
NeoStridernot sprites, but some solid colours instead of plain BW20:42
NeoStriderman...i just love solid colors20:43
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pupnikN800: do you have synergy going now? or a BT keyboard on the N800?  I'm curious what framerates SMC gets on it.  That would be very informative20:52
erstaziwhat would be some suggested IRC clients for a Nokia 770?20:52
pupnikor anybody else that has a N80020:52
pupnikirssi, xchat20:52
NeoStriderirssi?20:52
erstazipupnik, I have tried xchat and it failed installation20:52
NeoStrider_Monkey?20:52
NeoStrider"irssi"?20:53
erstazipupnik, irssi, I might try it, I normally use it20:53
erstaziNeoStrider, it is a CLI irc client20:53
N800havent touch synergy in forerver20:53
pupnikDeathstar killed _Monkey20:53
N800i'll get it  going in a minute20:54
NeoStriderthose imperial  sith bastards20:54
pupnikor a bt keyboard might have the ctrl key also20:54
pupnikyes Imperial Business Machines ;)20:54
pupnikI am really impressed with the FPS on SMC.  It's close to what i get when i blit rectangles (and do nothing else) fullscreen on n77020:55
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pupniks/rectangles/16-bit images20:55
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NeoStrideryeah...im quite impressed with those 2D games20:57
NeoStriderSMW looks just like the N800 video you made20:57
NeoStrider(was you, right?)20:58
pupnikunique311 did20:58
pupnikNeoStrider: if you want to do packaging work on SMW, i can spend my time fixing-up SMC20:59
erstaziI use to dislike Nokia, but they sure have put some good products out20:59
NeoStrideryeah...lets get it to work21:00
pupniki fixed up some SMW dependencies21:00
NeoStriderwhat is the SMW svn again?21:00
pupnikso i'll upload the source21:00
NeoStriderok21:00
pupnikdunno21:00
NeoStriderwhen ready. give me the source url and I will do my best21:01
NeoStriders/./,21:03
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RaPiStcan i ask help for nokia n80 here;21:06
RaPiStis anyone here;21:07
pupnik121:07
NeoStriderPaPiSt, actually, n80 is quite different from n80021:07
NeoStriderdifferent OS21:07
RaPiStok21:07
NeoStriderdifferent functions21:07
RaPiStthis is channel for n80021:07
RaPiSt;21:07
NeoStridernot only21:07
NeoStriderfor 770 too21:08
RaPiStis here any channel for n80;21:08
NeoStriderand what else comes21:08
NeoStrider"is there any channel for n80?" ,you mean?21:08
RaPiStyes21:08
NeoStrideri dont really know21:08
RaPiStok21:08
pupnikNeoStrider: will take 5 minutes to upload - full svn is 28MB21:08
NeoStriderI would recommend www.newlc.com21:08
pparkeri want to try mozilla but i got an error: osso-browser-opera21:08
proctoRaPiSt: that runs symbian s60, right?21:08
RaPiStyes21:08
NeoStrideryes procto21:08
proctotry #symbian21:08
proctoif that exists21:08
NeoStriderpupnik ,ok =-)21:09
proctoyes it does21:09
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proctoRaPiSt: so check out #symbian21:09
RaPiStok thx21:09
NeoStriderRaPiSt , n800 and n770 runs Linux, that is very different from Symbian21:09
RaPiStok ok21:09
RaPiSti just buy a nokia n80 internet edition and it is too slow21:09
RaPiStthats my problem21:09
NeoStriderdid you installed anything on it?21:10
proctotoo slow?21:10
proctothe internet too slow?21:10
RaPiStfrom the first time i buy it it is slow21:10
RaPiStno no21:10
NeoStriderwell21:10
RaPiStto see the sms it takes 2-3 secconds21:10
proctouh21:10
proctowell21:10
NeoStridersymbian is somewhat slow (at least was on my N-Gage)21:10
proctocheck #symbian21:10
RaPiStok thx21:10
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pupnikhttp://www.divshare.com/download/1395805-139  smw_nokia.tgz svn NeoStrider21:13
* NeoStrider is downloading smw source21:14
N80026 max pupnik21:15
pparkeri can't install mbrowser, missing packages osso-bookmarks21:16
pparkerwhat's missing ?21:16
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pupnikNice N800!21:18
pupniki was getting about 10-12 when moving around and 15-16 when standing still21:18
N800hold on21:18
N800running synergy screwed up the speed21:19
pparkerremember i flashed to use os200721:19
pupniki couldn't install it either pparker21:19
pparker:(((((((((((((((((((((21:19
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pparkerok last one:uktube is not launching21:21
pparkermplayer is installed21:22
N800pupnik, 26 to 3021:23
N800with different characters around...21:23
N800drops to about 10 1121:23
pupnikahh.. so maybe it's not using page-flipping to redraw21:23
pupniki cranked down the window to 400x240 (makes everything unplayable of course) and the frame rates got nice and high21:24
NeoStriderhow are you guys measuring the fps?21:26
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Fatalblinking really fast21:26
pupnikctrl-D and fps is shown in upper left21:27
NeoStrideroh...is a game feature21:27
NeoStriderFatal..I will try that21:27
pupnikthis is SMC now SMW btw21:27
pupniks/now/not21:27
pupniks/now/not/21:27
infobotpupnik meant: s/not/not21:27
pupnikgah21:27
NeoStriderhahhahaha21:27
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* NeoStrider has not finished downloading smw source yet...=-/21:42
cravmailsomeone had a problem with intltool in maemo 3.2 scratchbox? saying that was too old...21:43
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ragesaqim looking at getting an n80021:49
ragesaqi like what ive seen it can do so far21:49
ragesaqcan you play ADOM and dungeon crawl and other roguelikes that have linux ports?21:50
NeoStridersure21:50
ragesaqnice21:50
NeoStrideri have nethack on it21:51
ragesaqim not crazy about nethack as much as i am about the other two21:51
ragesaqi can play nethack on my pdaphone, but not adom and dungeon crawl21:51
NeoStriders/have/had/21:51
infobotNeoStrider meant: i had nethack on it21:51
NeoStriderI guess it was nethack21:52
NeoStrideri cant remember21:52
NeoStriderbut it was a "gauntlets like"21:52
ragesaqthe next one is a bit trickier21:52
NeoStriderbut more rpg than arcade21:52
ragesaqcan i use logmein on the nokia21:52
ragesaqit has a java client21:52
ragesaqand also a mozilla client21:53
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NeoStriderpupnik:22:04
NeoStridergzip: stdin: not in gzip format22:04
NeoStridertar: Child returned status 122:04
pupnikdid i misname it?  try xjvf22:06
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NeoStriderworked22:07
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NeoStriderpupnik, the package name...what it is?22:13
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pupniksmw-bin_1.7-8_armel.deb22:16
pupnikdebian/files22:16
NeoStriderwell22:17
NeoStriderso the dir must be ~/smw-bin22:17
pupnikhmm or smw22:18
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pupnikit was smw originally22:18
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N800you tried getting fullscreen on smw?22:18
pupnikyeah it works22:18
N800fully22:18
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N800no black on the left or right?22:18
pupnikoh there is black on left/right22:18
pupniknone of the maps are for 800x48022:19
N800i think i can get rid of those22:19
N800ok22:19
pupnikdo you think it should have onscreen buttons?  or can the special weapon be <return>22:20
N800How about mapping 1 or 2 buttons on the freed area22:20
pupnikheh22:20
N800yes22:20
NeoStridersmw would be better if your were only to have a single package for everything22:23
jonnylambHm, I just set up SB and apt won't resolve repository.maemo.org. However, wget obviously can..22:23
pupnikthere are many different data packs possible22:23
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pupnikmany different level setups - a whole community builds levels22:23
pupnikalso there is a "smw mini" data package22:23
pupniktaking only 4 MB22:24
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pupnikwhat do i need to do besides create the .desktop file?22:24
pupnikwhat do i need to change in debian/?22:24
jonnylambpupnik: For what?22:24
pupnikto get the application into the menu22:24
pupnikNeoStrider was going to work on that but now he's flying off on tangents22:25
pupnik:)22:25
N800anybody notice the loading time bug..22:25
jonnylambCreate the .desktop file, then assuming your source package has only one binary package then install the .desktop file into the /usr/share/applications/ directory using debian/rules; or you could use debian/install.22:25
N800where it ask you to press any button..and don't respond...22:25
pupnikyes N80022:26
N800before packaging..22:26
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N800might want to check those things out..22:26
NeoStriderno22:28
NeoStriderim working on i t!22:28
NeoStriderit!22:28
pupnikhehe22:28
NeoStriderbut there are stuff pertinent to it22:28
NeoStriderlike the dir name22:28
NeoStriderbecouse autotools infere the name of the app from it22:29
pupnikah22:29
pupnikso we need to make a debian/smw/usr/share/applications/hildon/22:31
pupnik? and in rules, under install add22:31
jonnylambYou know, it /really/ is easier using debian/$PACKAGENAME.install..22:32
pupnikah ok22:32
jonnylambOne line: "path/to/smw.install usr/share/applications/hildon/"22:33
NeoStrideractually pupnik, everything I know comes from maemowizard22:33
NeoStrider"make"ing smw22:34
NeoStriderok22:39
NeoStridermaybe i figured it out22:39
NeoStrideryou had a smw-nokia dir22:40
NeoStriderwith a smw.desktop22:40
NeoStriderand a smw-bin package22:40
NeoStriderthe system had 3 names to handle22:40
NeoStriderI will build a new package and see what happens changing smw.desktop to smw-bin.desktop22:40
pupnikok originally the dir was smw - i just changed smw to smw_nokia to prevent conflicts when you unpacked it22:40
pupnikcool22:40
NeoStriderok22:40
NeoStrideri renamed it to smw-bin22:40
NeoStriderdpkg-buildpackage complained it from being smw-bin and not smw-1.722:42
NeoStriderthis is a good clue too22:42
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pupnikthanks for the help jonnylamb22:42
joshindisq: You helped me a few days ago with a weird web stream not getting along with My N770...  I finally solved it.  I opened up ESD on the 770 a bit and was able to stream mplayer on my server to it.  Went from taking up 178% of the CPU (according to Mplayer) to 36%.  :)22:43
pupnikis there a good repository for gregale libraries and development libraries for scratchbox?22:44
disqjoshin: glad to hear (did i? don't remember)22:46
joshindisq: I thought so.  My logs rolled off...22:47
joshinAnyhow, I was amused that I got it working.  More amused that I didn't break anything.22:47
NeoStriderpackages done22:48
NeoStridertesting22:48
NeoStriderstrange...the dpkg not even asked me where to put the shortcut22:50
NeoStriderthat dialog asking "Games" "Extras" , etc22:50
N800hmmmm22:51
N800you guys have a working package already..22:51
NeoStriderwheres the service file?22:52
pupnik? ?22:52
NeoStriderwe need  a file named like23:03
NeoStriderorg.pupnikgames.smw.service23:03
NeoStriderfor dbus23:03
NeoStriderto call the game when its icon is clicked23:03
pupnikah ok - searching23:03
NeoStridertake a look at maemowizard's template and you will see one23:03
pupnikso copy Maemowizard.template.service to smw-bin.template.service and edit it?23:04
pupnikor smw.template.service?23:05
NeoStriderhey23:05
NeoStrideractually the name is some kind of url in reverse23:05
NeoStriderMaemoWizard is like a domain23:05
NeoStriderwhen you apply the script it became something like MaemoWizard.smw.service23:06
pupnikyeah23:06
pupnikohhh23:06
NeoStriderso it can be org.pupnikgames.smw.service23:06
pupnikduh23:06
NeoStrider;-)23:06
NeoStriderthe service file is vital to the desktop to work23:06
NeoStriderand to have the app on the taskbar23:06
pupnik72dpiarmy made it23:07
pupnik72dpiarmy.smw.service maybe23:07
NeoStriderdoing a extensive search on the source dir23:09
NeoStriderfile not found23:10
NeoStrideri will copy the maemowizard service file23:11
NeoStriderbut how to include it?23:11
N800you don't need a service file..23:11
NeoStriderwhy not?23:11
N800not sure...but sll it does is show the loading rectangle  on the top right of the screen..under thebattery meter23:12
pupnikmore com.nokia.bomberman_app.service  // bomberman has one23:12
N800had issues with it before and notice when i didn't use it the loading didn't show..23:12
N800and when i did loading showed.23:12
pupnikMakefile.am:servicedir = $(datadir)/dbus-1/services23:12
pupnikMakefile.am:service_DATA = com.nokia.bomberman_app.service23:12
pupnikMakefile.am:        com.nokia.bomberman_app.service23:12
N800if you think its not too much work..23:13
N800inculde it..23:13
N800i left it out in POSE23:13
N800and synergy2 GUI23:13
pupnikyou can launch them from menu?23:13
NeoStriderMaemoWizard service file actually is bomberman files modified (klaus allowed me to do so)23:13
pupnik:)23:13
N800yes23:13
N800doesn't stop that23:14
N800i have synergy2 in the menu23:14
N800and launch it23:14
NeoStriderstrange...23:14
NeoStriderbut it shows on the task bar?23:14
pupniki read that you need to register with dbus otherwise the application closes after a few seconds?  does this sound familiar?23:14
N800the loading deosn't appear like other apps23:14
N800synergy never closed on me..23:14
pupnikcool23:14
N800but will put it to the test right now23:14
N8004:1523:15
* pupnik is working on virtual keyboard23:16
NeoStriderbut synergy uses SDL?23:16
NeoStriderpupnik, what virtual keyboard?23:16
pupnikright now xvkbd23:17
N800compiled synergy2 a while back23:17
pupnikxkbd builds, matchbox-keyboard and xvkbd are not building23:17
N800synergy2 GUI application23:18
pupnikwell NeoStrider then maybe synergy2 gui is a good place to start23:18
NeoStrideryeah, but synergy2 uses SDL?23:19
NeoStriderthere is a diferent nature in the applications23:19
pupnikah23:19
NeoStriderSDL apps tend to be more window-manager agnostics23:19
N800 quicksynergy.sourceforge.net23:20
N800gtk and C23:21
NeoStriderso...its a diferent monster23:21
NeoStrideri still recommend checkin out bomberman and indt games23:21
derfpupnik: maemocjk uses matchbox-keyboard successfully.23:21
NeoStriderbefore I had a service file, my game engine would stuck with the "loading box" and did nothing besides that23:22
NeoStriderand even after I had a service file and desktop file, they had to be properly configured23:22
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NeoStridertrying a different thing: copied and adapted angstron desktop and service files to see if it works23:26
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NeoStriderno success23:30
NeoStridersucess23:30
NeoStriderI guess we need a new autotools configuration23:30
pupnik>_<23:30
NeoStrideror maybe, maemowizard heheh23:31
NeoStriderI dont know23:31
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NeoStrideri created maemowizard exactly becouse of my lack of knowledge23:31
NeoStriderand the lack of good documentation23:31
NeoStriderand my lack of time =-P23:31
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NeoStriderhey...I have a suggestion:23:32
NeoStridertake any game (angstron will do) package, unpack it, change the binarie and re-pack it =-P23:32
* pupnik needs imake and xmkmf and debhelper 5 and ivtools and libmodule-build-perl and ...23:33
NeoStriderhahahah23:33
NeoStriderbut my research wasnt all failure23:34
NeoStrideryou do need a propper desktop and service file23:34
soothsayerIf apt-get update is getting stuck ("99% [Waiting for headers]") does that mean that the repositories are down?23:34
NeoStrider( and some gameplay adaptations ;-) )23:34
pupnikok23:34
NeoStridersoothsayer...not really, I guess23:35
NeoStriderI need to restart my X23:35
NeoStriderXephyr stole the sound23:35
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soothsayerIs repository.maemo.org barely responsive for anyone else?23:43
pupniksvn checkout is slow here23:45
soothsayerpupnik: Thanks23:46
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pupnikre23:53
NeoStriderbrezillian kaffe, ya!23:53
NeoStriderwell...I need to solve a bug on angstron23:53
NeoStriderhow is things going on smc?23:54
NeoStriders/is/are/23:54
infobotNeoStrider meant: how are things going on smc?23:54
pupniktrying to increase speed and improve sounds23:54
NeoStriderbut works?23:55
pupnikalso we could use another n800 user to verify that sound isn't working23:55
pupnikyeah i wasted a lot of time playing23:55
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NeoStriderhahhaha23:55
pupnikit's playable at 12-16 fps at 800x480, which is pretty good fullscreen SDL performance23:56
pupnikN800 was getting higher fps, indicating that the game logic and compositing is more of a bottleneck than the framebuffer right now23:57
pupnikso reducing bitmaps by 400% size and implementing Xsp should give 20+ fps23:58
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NeoStriderone thing to note23:58
NeoStriderwhile N800 has faster cpu, it has slower screen performance23:59
NeoStriderso sometimes, 770 can be faster than n80023:59
NeoStrider(canola has tearing on N800!)23:59

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