IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2007-07-21

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blkhawki need Maemo_Dev_Platform_RS_v1.1_arm.tgz00:07
blkhawkcoulkd somebody poke whoever maintains the repository and tell him or her to set the frigging file readable - thanks00:08
blkhawkor somebody with shell acces might be so nice and get it tfor me?00:09
blkhawkthe webserver creates an index but refuses to let me get the file00:10
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proctoIs there a way to change filetype handlers in the file amanger?00:32
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proctopupnik: any ideas?00:34
alteregoGrrr .. My garage project got denied because of the ruby185 project.00:35
alteregoFlippin' hassle.00:35
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disqi posted a mail about sdl1.2's headsetbutton problem to maemo-dev00:36
alteregoI think I'll just forget about using garage for the time being. I would have thought it was obvious that the ruby185 project is a load of cr*p00:36
disqit's a launcher? no bindings? but yours are ruby bindings?00:38
alteregoHe just compiled ruby in the SDK.00:38
alteregoI'm distributing ruby binaries and maemo bindings.00:38
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alteregoEven on the info page he said he wouldn't do anything more unless some asked him to.00:39
infobotalterego meant: Even on the info page he said he wouldn't do anything more unless someone asked him to.00:39
alteregoIs there no escape from infobot?!00:40
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alteregoMaybe I'm being unreasonable here. I guess I should talk to this guy and see if he wants to join forces.00:43
disqyou could also try to convince the garage admins :P00:43
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alteregoWell, I'm happy hosting it myself. It's already top on google for "ruby maemo", I was kind of shocked concidering I put the alpha version up only yesterday. ^_^00:45
disqyeah it is, interesting :)00:45
alteregoWhich reminds me. Need to update the API docs :)00:45
alteregoAnd done :D00:47
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blkhawki need arch/arm/configs/n770_defconfig - anybody got that file for me ?00:48
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blkhawkunfortunally i have noaccess to the kernel sources with that file00:50
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blkhawknm - i extracted it from the 2.0 rootstrap01:02
blkhawkBTW - the defconfig fike pasted into the wiki is misformated as to be almost totally useless01:03
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blkhawki build kernel-source-2.6.16 as kernel-source-
blkhawkand it worked01:21
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blkhawkok for my next trick i will run a 2006 kernel with a 2006initfs but with a 2005se bootloader setup01:35
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alteregoI think yer just asking for trouble.01:39
blkhawkjust exploring my options01:41
blkhawksince i am limited to2005 atm01:41
blkhawkmaybe i shold first get a serial console working01:42
alteregoGrrr .. Why is this segfaulting :(01:43
alteregoFor some reason osso doesn't like being initialized inside a ruby extension.01:44
alteregoI can't see for the life of me why.01:44
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blkhawkis there a soure for serial plugs that fit the n770?01:50
pupnikgood question01:51
blkhawkseeing the kernel messages would be extremely useful01:52
blkhawkmy 2.6.16 kernel didn't really work out :P01:52
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blkhawksigh - no 2gb fast mmc cards for me untill i can get my hands on the 1.1 RootStrap01:53
blkhawkor rather the kernel contained in the rootstrap01:54
blkhawkthanks for listening to my rants and requests for information ;)01:55
blkhawkneed to sleep01:55
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alteregoWell .. That's interesting ..02:10
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alteregoI'm happy now :D02:12
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pupnik_  squidgesnes running with sound and  full speed on gp2x (Arm920 @ 200mhz)02:22
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pupnik_ahh not full speed on all of them - DKC looked to be about 8 fps02:24
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pupnik_PLaystation emulation might work on the N80002:34
Art-I fear this is probably an FAQ by now, but does anyone have a deb of 'bloglines 770'?02:35
gla55_i seriously doubt that..02:35
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pupnik_gla55_: it's running on the 200mhz ARM920 gp2x02:35
pupnik_probably overclocked @ 250 or so02:36
gla55_just the fmv just seems to skip a lot alone02:36
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pupnik_the fmv is very skippy - they have poor speed to the sd card02:37
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gla55_is there gameplay on that youtube clip02:37
pupnik_but 5-7 fps is pretty impressive02:37
pupnik_yeah skip to about 5 min02:37
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gla55_resident evil is a bad game to demo though imho, still bg's02:38
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pupnik_well the ps1 had pretty poor capabilities.  Final Fantasy and other games used static BGs for good reasons02:39
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gla55_impressive anyhow02:39
pupnik_i'm mainly jealous about how well they got snes, gba and genesis emulated02:39
gla55_yeah it's capabilities suck.. but still.. on pc side.. xbox1 emulates it just okayish02:40
gla55_used it to play xenogears last winter..02:42
gla55_great game.. that uses 3d for most stuff02:42
pupnik_oh i haven't seen it02:43
gla55_mechas and shit02:43
gla55_pretty epic stuff02:43
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pupnik_The music in Xenogears was composed by Yasunori Mitsuda who was made famous by his work on the Super Famicom title, Chrono Trigger.02:45
pupnik_Xenogears maintains a 90% ratio on Game Rankings, and within the top 15 best reviewed games on the Playstation.02:46
pupnik_I was one of the early purchasrs of Bleem (ps1 emu)02:46
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pupnik_i'm still angry i didn't get that Psion Netbook Pro for 202 euro02:48
gla55_yeah i remember bleem02:53
gla55_and bleemcast even too..02:55
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frobhas anyone been able to install (or build) microb-browser on scratchbox ?02:56
frobI can't manage to do either one02:57
pupnik_i'd like to get it going on it2007he02:57
frobcompiling from svn works fine (except it takes hours) but tablet-browser-ui can't be built because a dependency (libgtkadi-dev) is missing, and it's nowhere to be found02:58
vertooHas anyone managed to stream music online to be accessed via a browser on the go?02:58
frobintalling from bora-extras equally fails because or missing packages02:58
pupnik_apt-cache search libgtkadi-dev02:58
pupnik_libgtkadi-dev - GTK ADI Library. development02:59
frobpupnik_: I don't have it!02:59
frobfrob: I'm on bora 3.202:59
froband I have the extras repo enabled02:59
pupnik_i don't know how to see which repo has it03:00
froboh wait03:00
frobyou're on the ARMEL target ?03:00
pupnik_i can share my sources.list03:00
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derfapt-cache policy <package>03:01
frobpupnik: it seems I have it on ARMEL, but not on X86, tough sources.list is the same03:01
pupnikthanks derf, i'd forgotten that03:01
froband I just spent a night building microb-engine for X86, I'm not likely to repeat03:01
derfI used Debian for the better part of 5 years before anyone told me that.03:02
pupniki never build on x8603:02
frobI can't explain why the package is available only on one arch03:02
frobpupnik: why ?03:02
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pupniki build on armel because that's why i build stuff03:02
* frob smacks himself03:02
pupnikarmel target03:02
frobI was sure I could not run armel binaries on scratchbox03:03
frobso, I'll have to rebuild microb-engine from scratch03:03
* frob sobs and sighs03:03
frobpupnik: could you check if microb-browser is installable there ? (here it's not)03:04
pupniki only have gregale on scratchbox03:07
frobok, sorry03:07
frob(any volunteers on bora around? :)03:07
pupnikapt-cache search microb-browser03:08
pupnikmicrob-browser - Meta-package for MicroB Browser aplication03:08
pupnikseems to be in bora repos03:08
frobpupnik: it is, but I can't install it03:10
pupniki got similar complaints trying to install it on it2007he03:14
pupniki didn't look into it further - maybe you can manually install those dependencies?03:14
frobtrying, apt-get isntalling the whole long chain, until I got to this showstopper03:15
frobPackage osso-browser-opera-adapter is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:15
frobThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or03:15
frobis only available from another source03:15
frobE: Package osso-browser-opera-adapter has no installation candidate03:15
frob(I'm totally uninterested in having opera, tough)03:16
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pupnikit seems to be preinstalled on the itos03:17
frobso how am I supposed to develop extensions for the browser now? :D03:17
pupnikgrep opera-adapter /var/lib/dpkg/status03:18
pupnikDepends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0), libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libcst, libdbus-1-2 (>= 0.61), libdbus-glib-1-2 (>= 0.61), libgconf2-6 (>=, libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.8.6-1osso1), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2:2.6.10-1.osso8), libjpeg62, libosso-gnomevfs2-0, libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.8.1), libssl0.9.7, maemo-browser-eal (>= 1.7.5), osso-browser-opera-adapter (>= 2:1.0.4), osso-ic-lib, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1), osso-browser-opera-dynamic03:18
pupnikPackage: osso-browser-opera-adapter03:18
pupniki dunno, i am a bear of little brain03:18
frobthe point is, they got this beta software out for -developers- to use, but apparently it's not possible to do so03:19
frobthanks anyway pupnik03:20
pupniki'd ask the questions in itt forums and/or maemo-developer list03:20
pupniki also want to try the browser03:20
pupnikhave you used it on the tablet yet?03:20
pupnikhow is it?  speed / rendering03:21
frobworked fairly well, didn't seem slower than opera (I haven't used it a lot tough)03:21
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frobthe good thing was I could finally use google reader03:21
froband flash works too (sluggish as before, tough)03:22
pupnikok.  i really dislike this trend toward cpu-hungry websites.03:22
pupnikit is getting harder to avoid them03:22
frobdefinitely, it's a goddamn feed reader after all03:22
pupnik:/  well cheers - it's late here03:23
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frob2:23 am here :D03:23
frobbye pupnik03:23
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Esinehi. I noticed they're selling nokia 770 really cheap at some webshops (source:
Esineand I might be buying one04:02
Esinebut first I need to know can it do multitasking well? and I know maemo is based on GTK+ so should all GUI apps be written in GTK+?04:03
EsineI assume it runs an X server.. right? or is it framebuffer?04:03
Esinethen.. I heard busybox is installed there by default  but I was thinking if you could install the full gnu coreutils and some other standard software. is it possible?04:04
Esinehow about flashing the device? or can I just compile my own kernel for it, boot it up and expect it to work? what if my kernel is configured wrong? what kind of boot manager do you have?04:05
EsineI also heard mplayer works fine with it but I just want a confirmation for this. it'd be cool to play Ogg Theora videos on it. Also all my music is in Ogg Vorbis can I play them?04:07
nomisEsine: find your answers at http://maemo.org04:08
Esineyeah but sometimes the documentation is vague and real life differs from it04:08
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Esineso I'd like to hear peoples' experiences04:09
milhouseyes it multi tasks, yes it uses xserver04:13
milhouseyou might want to check itt forums04:14
_Monkeyitt is, like,
Esinecool like thanks man like like04:14
milhousethank _monkey :)04:14
derfThe 770 doesn't have enough RAM to get more than 2 or 3 applications open, and there's no mechanism to open the virtual keyboard for non-GTK apps.04:14
EsineI fail to see how 64MB is too low. What's taking up all the ram? GTK+ or X11 or your own software?04:15
derfYou obviously haven't profiled a webbrowser recently.04:17
EsineI use Opera :-)04:17
Esinebut I was thinking multiple applications one of them not necessarily being a web browser04:18
derfThe 770 also comes with Opera.04:19
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Esinebtw.. you can set the wlan nic in 770 to promiscuous mode right? that'd be the ultimate portable sniffing tool 8)04:43
Esinebetter than my Nintendo DS at least04:44
frobI'd be happy to know if anybody managed to install browser on scratchbox, thanks04:45
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ericz_can you actually make phone calls with the 770 using it's bluetooth?04:55
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disqericz_: there's a phonelink application at the garage for that. never tried05:02
disqfrob: if you install it from the 770 image it should work. qemu won't emulate arm6 instruction set and opera for n800 is probably compiled with arm6 optimizations05:04
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frobdisq: but I mean the mozilla browser05:11
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disqfrob: it should work with cpu transparency but with bare qemu i'm not sure05:34
frobdisq: the problem is the package is not installable on scratchbox (missing dependencies) and it's not compilable either (missing source packages)05:36
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KludgyHi.  Anyone have experience installing Hamachi for the n770?  Can it be done via sudo gainroot?05:39
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frobKludgy: hamachi is closed source, and there's not version for the ARM architecture, how did you get it to run ?05:43
disqfrob: there's hamachi for maemo05:44
froboh, cool05:45
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KludgyThe (non-production) files are here:
KludgyI don't think sudo gainroot gets you the necessary privileges to install though, so I'm not sure how others are accomplishing the installation (though there are a lot of confirmations that it works)05:48
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Kludgygot it.. don't understand the nuances, untarring the hamachi package to the media card sets the file permissions to user:root.. and ./install results in permission denied.  When I did the same in /home/user/MyDocs/.documents, the file permissions come from the tar (1003:100) and it works.06:42
KludgyI don't know does it have something to do with the way the media device is mounted?06:42
disqthe memory card is mounted "noexec"06:44
disqso you can't execute anything on it. also, since it's fat permissions/ownerships won't stick06:45
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Kludgythanks disq great info06:49
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sciboyThat's another few stores I've found stocking n800's in australia...07:14
sciboyHas there been any news? I want to get one but I'd rather get it with a valid warranty.07:14
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keesjsciboy: what kind of news?07:42
sciboykeesj, About a release in australia, whether there is any dates or anything, because I've found it listed on the nokia site as "upcoming", singapore had their own release and all these shops are starting to pop up with it.07:43
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disq<- just released a new and improved maemoscrobbler (0.1.2)07:45
frobdisq: does it do radio ?07:57
disqno. but there are two other packages for radio (maemo-fm and one more)07:58
disqcheck the maemo garage for details07:58
frobmm, will do07:58
frobI installed maemoscrobbler yesterday but only to find out that it requires player support07:59
frob(but I don't know what player supports it)07:59
disqcurrently only kagu does08:00
disqalso there's a diff for UKMP in the ukmp garage tracker08:00
disqkagu is
disqanyway, night08:09
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jga23is there any way to programatically turn on the led on the n800 with python?08:14
keesjsciboy: so long after the initial relase?08:22
sciboykeesj, Yup.08:22
sciboykeesj, I mean, the singapore release came out of the middle of no where, and it makes sense that they'd test the waters first.08:23
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pupnikAHA i'm not the only one who can't log into  "derfBecause I can't log in. // derf I mean, to // derf It refuses to log me in with my garage account.11:43
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rittyanam I right thinking that I cannot connect to a wifi network with hidden ssid? I can't find where I can type ssid, I can only select it from list of found networks... hm (nokia n800)11:46
pupniki thought hidden ssid nets would show up in the list11:48
rittyanbut hey, hidden ssid is hidden11:50
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gomiamgive me a sec while I reconfigure my SSID to be hidden and try to connect to it :-)11:53
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gomiamok, as expected I lost my connection to the chat. Now it's time to try to connect to the AP11:56
gomiamand I have connected with no problems11:56
gomiamso yes, you can connect to hidden SSIDs11:56
gomiam(as long as you know them and the rest of data11:57
gomiamis that information enough?11:59
rittyangomiam, "as long as you know them" <- do you mean I have to specify them somewhere or they show up in the list automagically?12:02
gomiamchecking the connection creation wizard12:03
gomiamhold on12:03
gomiamI have configured my AP to hide the SSID12:03
gomiambut I have the AP data set in my N80012:03
rittyanoh, that's maybe why12:03
gomiamwhen it searchs for SSIDs it automatically broadcasts a request for my hidden network12:04
gomiamand my AP answers accordingly12:04
rittyanI cannot configure AP here, it is in closed room and sysadms are home today (satursday)... all I can do is follow documentation12:04
gomiamand you can set a WiFi connection up without being able to see it. Just set it as a hidden network12:05
gomiam(for example, that's the standard way the wizard works when trying to set a connection up in connectionless mode)12:05
gomiamthe wizard finds it can't scan for SSIDs and tells you to set to connection up by hand.12:06
gomiamis that enough info? :-)12:07
rittyanoh yes it worked12:08
rittyanthank you12:08
rittyani forgot about that control panel... tried to do things from wifi statusbar icon ^^;12:08
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* gomiam does little happy dance. Floor tiles groan under the stress...12:10
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gomiamyou don't want 100Kg+ prancing on you either :-D12:12
rittyankg? I just heard somebody said kg *hides his lunch break made of big pizza*12:13
gomiamas in Kilogram, (that what is known to be about 2.2 pounds)12:14
gomiamnyam nyam12:14
rittyanyeah, with chicken, double layer of cheeze, tomato and stuff..12:14
* gomiam stalks rittyan12:15
rittyanlong way to go) I live far away12:15
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gomiamon unrelated matters, what would you think of someone who writes a self-help newsletter starting to repeat himself after a year? :-D12:17
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gomiamrittyan: unless you live in the Antartic base you aren't probably far away enough :-P12:18
gomiam(and that's just because it's dark over there in winter)12:19
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pupnikwow, Ted Tso posts to the maemo-users mailing list12:20
pupniki think all the linux gurus should have tablets :)12:21
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rittyangomiam, well.. okay I give up :-D12:23
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gomiampupnik: I would be happy enough with all tablets having gurus (that would make me one automagically)12:25
gomiamlinux gurus, that is12:25
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pupniki need a guru12:27
pupnika) someone who can port a virtual onscreen keyboard and figure out a way to bring it up ontop of fullscreen sdl programs12:27
pupnikb) someone to port SquidgeSNES or DrPocketSnes12:28
pupnikc) someone to port Picodrive Genesis emulator12:28
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pupniki can make the list arbitrarily long :)12:28
gomiamport as in "port to Maemo", right?12:28
pupnikyeah it shouldn't be that hard... those emus are running on gp2x (ARM920t)12:29
rittyanpupnik, why not zsnes?12:29
pupnikzsnes is x86 asm12:29
guru3port bochs then too12:30
guru3if they're a guru, it shouldn't matter to them12:30
guru3(please ignore my name at this point)12:30
gomiamyay! Only two more Ultrastar packs to go :-D12:30
pupnikI have dosbox running ok.  Also Snes9x
_Monkeysomebody said dosbox was about as fast as an ibm xt12:31
gomiamnow _that_ could be fun, porting Ultrastar to Maemo12:31
guru3dosbox running on a tablet... that could be interesting12:31
gomiam_Monkey: fast enough for me to run Nibbler then :-D12:31
_Monkeygomiam: i'm not following you...12:31
pupnikPrince of persia is playable12:31
_Monkeyi already had it that way, pupnik.12:31
gomiam_Monkey: Ultrastar is a Singstar clone12:31
_MonkeyOK, gomiam.12:31
* rittyan wishes to have nintendo ds as well :<12:32
gomiambeing able to run it on Maemo would be fun IMO12:32
pupnikdosbox is
_Monkeysomebody said dosbox was about as fast as an ibm xt12:32
pupnik_Monkey: forget dosbox12:32
_Monkeypupnik: I forgot dosbox12:32
guru3will it run on a 770?12:33
pupnikdosbox is about as fast as an IBM XT/AT, available at
pupnik_Monkey dosbox is about as fast as an IBM XT/AT, available at
_Monkeyi already had it that way, pupnik.12:33
_Monkeydosbox is about as fast as an IBM XT/AT, available at
* zuh . o O ( Dune II on a N800... hmmm... )12:36
zuhpupnik: did you have to twiddle the sources?12:36
pupnikNot for 0.65  0.70 will need some work12:37
gomiamzuh: OMG12:37
gomiamI think I still have the disk dumps around :-12:37
pupnikthere's a guy who is looking into dynamic recompilation for x86-arm12:38
pupniknot holding my breath for it though12:38
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pupnikDune II: "While official requirements are a 386/16 with 3MB of RAM, I found it plays very nicely on a 286/10, too"12:40
pupnikthat might be playable12:40
gomiampupnik: it _was_ playable12:42
gomiamyou only needed to wait 20 minutes for the two last levels to load12:42
* zuh still remembers how there was time to read a comic book while C64 games loaded12:43
zuhFrom the tapes12:43
gomiamheh, all my brother's friends came home to take advantage of us having a double tape radiocassette12:44
guru3Ah, the good old days.12:44
gomiameven though we didn't even have a microcomputer12:44
zuhThe good old moss-covered days12:44
zuhI still have my 386. I haven't had the heart to throw it away. Too bad our C64 has burned something, it would be nice to play some REALLY old games for a change12:45
pupnikthe frodo guys are working on a SDL menu (forever now)... I ported the tcl/tk menu to the nokia but it's pretty dodgy12:48
zuhI meant "for real" ;)12:48
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zuhIt's just not the same without real hw :P12:49
* gomiam ponders the wiseness of buying a Bluetooth keyboard12:49
pupnikhmm.  9 euro for a c64 on ebay...
twrHarric64 is so legendary thing, I actually have one still somewhere stored carefully ;)12:50
pupniki hated the keyboard12:51
twrHarriWith floppy + tape ;)12:51
twrHarriKeyb was mostly useless, imho.12:51
pupnikgomiam: a bluetooth keyboard completely transforms the tablet imo.  i would not go back to vkbd12:52
gomiambut they are _expensive_12:52
rittyanpupnik, vkbd = one hand... bt kbd = you have to put tablet somewhere12:52
gomiamaround EUR10012:53
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pupnikyeah i paid 100 eu.12:53
gomiamrittyan: so vkbd and btkbd have their different moments12:53
gomiamno problem with that for me :-)12:53
rittyangomiam, yes but I wouldn't use btkbd on bus stop for example12:53
gomiameven though I would use one hand to hold both kbd and tablet :-D12:53
gomiamit shouldn't be that difficult with the N80012:54
rittyanit may be fine if you are an acrobat12:54
pupnikthe thinkoutside stowaway has a clip that could be modified to firmly hold the nokia12:54
pupniki usually have a backpack or attache-style case with me, so i put that on my lap12:55
rittyanpupnik, isn't it dangerous?12:55
rittyanto let something else hold your nokia instead of your hands12:55
gomiamhas anybody tried the Targus Thumbpad?12:55
pupnikthe clip is a removable piece of plastic.  I imagine you could bend a piece of sheet metal and screw or glue it to the clip12:56
gomiamdon't worry about the text, it's Spanish12:56
rittyanis there any delicious client for maemo?12:57
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pupnikgood price on that.  but i can really type fast on the stowaway12:57
gomiamyeah, this one is a one-finger solution :-)12:57
blkhawkHey - I am looking for something to connect to the serial console12:58
blkhawkis there any source for these plugs or at least some mobile cable tat can be modified?12:59
blkhawkI need it to see what my kernel says when booting ;)12:59
zuhI think there is somewhere a description of the pins13:02
blkhawkI got it - but i need fomething to connect to them13:03
blkhawkI do not want to solder wires onto them13:03
gomiamheh, I found the Nokia Bluetook GPS at EUR8913:04
gomiamI may even think about buying it too :-D13:04
gomiam(most devices cost around the same anyway)13:04
gomiamhold that13:05
gomiamthere's a EUR60 item available13:05
gomiambye bye Nokia :-)13:05
zuhblkhawk: Well, the only option then is to make a "head" for the cable (say, poking wires trough some foam/plastic or something) and do some tape magic to make it stay in place ;)13:05
pupnikfound some profiling (oprofile) and ARM optimization code...  svn checkout arm1136j-s13:05
blkhawkzuh: good idea13:10
blkhawksome small nails and a piece of styrofoam13:10
* blkhawk is away buing stuff13:11
* pupnik misses Tak and ssvb and tko 13:15
* rittyan syncs tree of sources for like a hour... nothing to do at work13:19
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* zuh starts up colonization13:27
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AD-N770good morning13:28
zuhHmm, make that Colonization to avoid global panic (no, I'm not going to take over the world ;)13:28
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pupnikcolonization the game13:33
zuhDidn't wait for it to start a game though (took forever). There's something wrong with the mouse coordinates...13:35
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pupnikif dosbox is using sdl relative mouse movement, i need to change that to absolute13:44
pupnikright now i'm doing graphics benchmarking13:44
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zuhI guess Colonization would be playable if the mouse would track properly13:48
pupnikthis is the first report i've heard of the problem13:49
pupnikcan you try another mouse game to confirm?13:49
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zuhI'm using the vanilla sources btw13:49
pupnik0.65 or 0.7?13:50
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pupnikdo you want to do the mouse fix?13:53
zuhIf by "do" you mean "investigate sources and code it" then no, don't have time for that (leaving today for a trip, coming back next week). But if you mean "apply a patch and test", then I'm game :)13:55
pupnikah ok13:57
pupnikanother thing to do13:57
zuhHmm, what should I set fullresolution to?13:57
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zuhAnd I did test with both TIM and Colony, same behaviour14:02
pupnikok thanks14:02
pupniki've addressed this in another SDL game and it's not too hard14:03
zuhThe y coordinate seems to have some scaling factor relative to the center by the looks of it14:03
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pupnikyeah variable scaling needs to be addressed14:06
pupnikRESULT: fill_opaque (256 frames in 2.1302 seconds): 120.1737 FPS14:06
pupnikRESULT: blend_opaque (256 frames in 4.7225 seconds): 54.2085 FPS14:06
pupnikRESULT: blend_transp24 (256 frames in 16.5207 seconds): 15.4957 FPS14:07
pupnikRESULT: blend_transp32 (256 frames in 15.3529 seconds): 16.6744 FPS14:07
pupnikRESULT: blend_transp16_8 (256 frames in 11.3701 seconds): 22.5153 FPS14:07
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pupnikRESULT: blend_transp24 (256 frames in 16.5207 seconds): 22.4513 FPS14:23
pupnikarm9_memcpy() memory bandwidth (align=0, size=4096): 128.60MB/s14:34
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pupnikN800 arm11_memcpy() memory bandwidth (align=0, size=4096): 335.13MB/s14:34
* rittyan will play with python + delicious api + glade14:35
rittyanat least I am in mood now.. and I hope I will be in mood after 5 hourses, when I get home14:36
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gomiam"hourses"? is that animauls with four leugs? :-P14:45
sp3000you must be hungry14:46
sp3000or, ... *cough* nm14:46
rittyanhours :-D14:49
rittyana weird typo is weird x_x wonder what have I thought of14:49
pupnik"hourses" = "hours" in Gollum-speak14:49
zuhprecioussssss hoursessss14:49
pupnikmemcpy speeds vary tremendously between the different implementations, sizes and alignments14:50
zuhpupnik: any idea what the cycles value would ideally be?14:54
pupniki've been testing games around 800, and using 100 and 100 for cycleup and down14:55
pupniki've seen playable results up to 3000, but i don't know how much sense that makes14:55
pupnikyou can keep "top" running in a ssh window to look at how inc/dec cycles affects cpu load14:56
zuhWhat's CurMode->sheight and cheight?14:57
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alteregoI can't believe there's no food in the fuggin' house.15:08
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pupnikthis is what boxes of ramen in the closet are for15:13
alterego2:00am last night. I finally got my libosso binding to stop seg faulting.15:14
alteregoIt was the weirdest thing.15:14
alterego/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/irb/slex.rb:36: [BUG] Segmentation fault.15:16
alteregoCrap .. Wrong channel.15:17
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guardian_setting up sdk on another box15:20
guardian_ubuntu feisty15:20
guardian_what to do when xephyr crashes ?15:20
guardian_segmentation fault, i have no other package version available :(15:20
pupniki test on the device15:21
alteregopupnik, how do you do that may I ask? NFS?15:30
pupnikno i just scp the stuff over15:30
alteregoThat's a bit fiddly :D15:30
pupniki think i need a different kernel for nfs15:31
alteregoMaybe samba then :D15:31
alteregoOr .. Can the N800 read mmc card when the cable is plugged in?15:31
alteregoFigures, on a completely different note. Is there a good news group reader for maemo/n800 ?15:32
db48xyea, sshfs is the way to go15:32
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sp3000sprinkle a little dnotify on top and you could skip the manual copy stage :P15:37
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sp3000well or sshfs15:37
sp3000but that's too simple15:38
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pupnikdyslexia can be fun... i just typed 'sodbox'.  which applies rather well15:59
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Savi_Bothello all16:05
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Savi_Boti m sorry for such stupid question , please tell me how to hard  reset nokia 77016:06
pupnikfor 'hard reset', i turn it off by holding down the power button16:07
Savi_Botbut it will only turn devie off wont it?16:07
pupnikright.  then i turn it on with the power button16:07
EsineSavi_Bot, you can reflash it I think16:08
Savi_Botbut i need tio return it to the factory settings16:08
Esinethat's basically what reflashing means16:08
Savi_Botesine  i need linux ? any chance doing it with win?16:09
EsineI thought you could do it within the device16:09
Savi_Boti have win on my notebook16:09
Esineif not, google16:09
Savi_Botis it os 2007 already available for 770?16:10
Esineonly an unstable version that doesn't work properly16:11
Savi_Boti would like to reflash on it16:11
Savi_Botany decent changes there?16:11
Savi_Botok i go read . have a good day16:12
pupniki don't see many benefits to running os2007he16:13
pupnikwe would need more people working on it, and packaging.. it is not easy to pull together i think16:14
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Savi_Bothow do i install tar.bz2 files?16:18
zakxtar xjvf file.tar.bz2 will unpack it16:19
Savi_Botok thanx16:19
Savi_Boti type it in xterm right?16:19
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pupnikdosbox065 no liek it2007he :(16:37
guru3i didn't get around to trying it yet becaue i have no idea what i'll run16:38
pupniktrying dune2 now16:38
guru3most of the games i can think of already run16:39
pupnikin what16:39
guru3on it200616:40
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pupnikwell it's been 4 minutes since starting dune 216:42
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orzelhello. Is there a way to 1)know 2)test the software you'll get with a nokia n800 ?16:53
whaqahhh dune... the precursor of rts..16:54
rwhitbyorzel: for 1) you can look in the official and community maemo repositories16:54
whaqor was it herzog zwei..16:55
rwhitbyfor 2) I'm not aware of an emulator, but perhaps you can try one at a shop somewhere (e.g. an airport electronics duty free shop?)16:55
orzelrwhitby:  if you install the sdk, you can test the applications it seems. But this is a difficult install. I can do it, but not everybody here who wanna test.16:56
orzelrwhitby: <- this is the officiel n800 list, right?16:56
orzel <- and this would be the.. 'community' one?16:57
pupnikthe community doesn't do a very good job of submitting stuff to a central repository16:59
pupnikmost of it seems to be there though17:00
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guardian_i still have xephyr crashing17:17
guardian_so annoying17:18
pupnik  <- for anyone interested in ARM assembly17:18
guardian_fresh feisty17:18
pupnikdo you get error messages running login from /scratchbox?17:18
guardian_xephyr just segfaults as described here :
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pupnikas a quick comparison, have you tried the vmware image?17:25
guardian_i have another box at work17:26
guardian_that works like a charm17:26
guardian_gonna move to my workplace although it's the week end, will take less time than smacking the shit out of the opensource :D17:26
guardian_since i changed hardware, linux experience degraded dramaticaly17:27
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tigertback home17:55
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guerbyorzel, my dpkg-n800.txt is probably not up to date for the latest firmware18:00
disqwb tigert18:00
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agogoI installed vnc viewer after flashing the most recent OS cannot connect to my desktop real vnc server "connection failed" laptop logs on to my desktop fine..only n800 cannot do so..can anybody assist?18:11
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agogohey guys18:19
agogoI installed vnc viewer after flashing the most recent OS cannot connect to my desktop real vnc server "connection failed" laptop logs on to my desktop fine..only n800 cannot do so..can anybody assist?18:19
disqthe channel is mostly dead on weekends18:19
rhysweekends? oh18:19
rhyswhat day is it?18:20
SeRiwe got lives beyond this channel ;P18:20
rhysoh. saturday18:20
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disqmine connects fine to tightvnc server18:20
rhysi seriously didnt know. i had to alt tab to the terminal and run date. :\18:20
agogoextremely weird..laptop works fine with vnc viewer to vnc server..n800 problematic18:21
SeRimaybe user error? works fine for me18:21
agogomaybe it is user error..reinstalled it twice..there goes my computer engineering degree down the toilet18:22
disqdid you try giving the vncviewer the port or the screen id? like ip.address:0 or ip.address:defaultvncport (just guessing)18:23
tigertalso many people have been in guadec18:23
SeRibecause you have computer engineering degree does not mean you can have errors18:23
tigertwhich is still going on, plus people have summer vacations right now as well18:24
SeRiI am a UNIX engineer and still make mistake some times :P18:24
agogoya..could just be offence seri18:24
SeRiguadec! yay!18:24
agogoi tried and, should I include the password too?18:25
SeRioffence none taken! :)18:25
rhys5901 eh?18:25
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agogoit always says "connection failed" .18:25
agogookay..ill try that18:25
rhysor :0.118:25
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agogohehe..while im waiting to boot up..I shoudl definitely peel off the factory screen protector and get a new one eh?18:26
SeRiIf is new leave it there18:27
SeRiWorks grate as a temp protector :)18:27
SeRijust remove the small peal tab18:27
agogookay.. returns connection failed18:28
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agogo192.168.1.102:1 says unable to connect18:29
agogolets try :0.118:29
agogookay..connection failed..aihh18:29
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agogoi give up :P18:37
SeRilol @ aihhh18:37
SeRiMhhh maybe iptables is enable in the new firmware bydefault... ?!?18:38
SeRitry iptables -L18:39
SeRisee what you get18:39
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agogodoesnt seem to work..nevermind seri..thanks anyway18:51
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disqjust built libconic0 on maemo2.2. will try if it works19:11
SeRiman I am so bored19:14
SeRiDont want to upgrade my tablet to the latest firmware untill the flash card issue is reolve19:14
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teer2timeless: are you in?20:04
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disqwow. the 770 is still so useful. i didn't recall it being so good (i have the n800 for 6 months now)20:51
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disqcompiled/signed n800 versions of curl/libcurl and libconic0 (which isn't available on the 770) and uploading right now20:57
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blkhawkok I still need the source code image from the 1.1 SDK21:52
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schroeder_hi there22:51
schroeder_i need some help with the package manager :(22:51
blkhawkwhats your problem?22:52
schroeder_apt-get upgrade quiets with the error-message: Error occureed while processing matchbox-window-manager (NewVersion1)22:53
schroeder_i am running os2007he on a n77022:53
blkhawktried flushing your cache?22:53
schroeder_no, how can I do that?22:53
blkhawkno idea - you will have to look it up yorself :)22:54
schroeder_lol, ok thanks :D22:55
cesmanless memory fails:apt-cache flush22:55
blkhawkdo you know wheater upgrading the bootloader on a prototype 770 will break it?22:55
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schroeder_apt-cache flush, same error: Error occureed while processing matchbox-window-manager (NewVersion1)22:57
cesmanthen I guess memory fails... :(22:57
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blkhawkany idea why all the howtoes for kernel compiling insist on doing it with dpkg-buildpackage?23:00
blkhawkWhy can't i just get a crosscomplier, patch the kernel and then compile it?23:00
blkhawkwhy do i need the whole scratchbox she-bang?23:00
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blkhawki need Maemo_Dev_Platform_RS_v1.1_arm.tgz23:11
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blkhawkanybody got access to the repository it in? the file seems chmodded unreadable23:11
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blkhawkI really do need that file23:12
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disqi only have 2.023:13
disq2.0rc16 that is23:13
blkhawkI cannot update to 2.023:13
disq(oh also found 2.2 and 3.0)23:13
blkhawkmut i need 1.123:13
disqwhy do you need the itos2005 files?23:13
blkhawkdisq: I have a prototype n77023:14
blkhawkI have been warned against swapping the bootloaders23:14
disqunfortunately this channel is dead on weekends23:14
blkhawkdisq: i hadn't had much look under the week either :(23:15
blkhawkdoyou know who has access to the repository and can chmod it right for me?23:15
disqyou can mail ferenc23:15
disqhe's not on right now though23:16
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blkhawkhey X-Fade23:32
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maxfhi there23:51
_Monkeyhi, maxf23:51
maxfnice to see there's a maemo channel23:52
maxf... where I can complain about my n800 not working ;)23:52
maxfso. It seems that my removable card reader does not read cards.23:53
maxfinternal one works, and swapping cards does not change anything.23:54
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* maxf suspects a hardware fault and wonders if it's common23:54
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