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| edt | will the next os/flash drop add codecs to mediaplayer? | 04:21 |
| edt | its current set is rather limited.... | 04:22 |
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| unique311 | wheres that tutorial to make the mouse cursor visible? | 06:01 |
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| pupnik | unique311: you copy a cursor file over another cursor file | 08:09 |
| unique311 | i know... | 08:10 |
| unique311 | i remember their was a tutorial.. | 08:10 |
| pupnik | maybe googling cursor+synergy or pointer+synergy | 08:10 |
| unique311 | i have little surprise for synergy also... | 08:10 |
| unique311 | gui'fied.. | 08:10 |
| unique311 | trying to hildon a bit.. | 08:11 |
| unique311 | not alot of src files.. | 08:11 |
| unique311 | but it looks good right now. | 08:11 |
| unique311 | want a pre? | 08:11 |
| pupnik | no i am dealing with other things | 08:12 |
| unique311 | cool | 08:12 |
| pupnik | another idea if you're working on synergy. one could enable the cursor only when synergy is running | 08:12 |
| pupnik | by copying or linking in the standard x pointer when it starts up, and changing it back when synergy gets killed | 08:13 |
| unique311 | that might be possible with the gui.. | 08:13 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:34 |
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| tweg | hi all, i am trying to play an m4a file using gstreamer like so: gst-launch filesrc location=something.m4a ! demux3gp ! dspaacsink | 11:40 |
| tweg | i get some sound out, but the sound is choppy | 11:40 |
| tweg | (cpu usage is low) | 11:41 |
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| tweg | anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? | 11:41 |
| tweg | (the file plays fine using the Media player app) | 11:44 |
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| sbaturzio | Aloha! | 12:44 |
| tweg | (the above problem) solved! (after much trial and error): | 12:46 |
| tweg | gst-launch filesrc location=something.m4a ! demux3gp ! dspaacsink sync=false | 12:46 |
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| BlueGene | hola a todos alguien habla espa?ol? | 13:47 |
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| BlueGene | Could somebody say me if the offer of N800 in 99 euros is ready, please? | 13:51 |
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| c0ffee | it's over, BlueGene | 13:53 |
| pupnik | anybody have a good czech/english translator? | 13:54 |
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| BlueGene | c0ffee could you explain me it? | 14:00 |
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| BlueGene | c0ffee when maemo start the offer? | 14:02 |
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| c0ffee | the offer started january 2007 and ended february 2007 | 14:06 |
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| BlueGene | :( | 14:14 |
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| pupnik | i just met two guys in a political channel who happened to get free 770s from Nokia | 15:37 |
| pupnik | how strange is that :) | 15:38 |
| Mikho | free 770s from Nokia? | 15:48 |
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| mbuf | hi, installed scratchbox .debs on Debian Etch manually, /usr/bin/scratchbox cannot be run as user as it says Permission denied; it is owned by root | 15:50 |
| mbuf | following these instructions: http://repository.maemo.org/stable/bora/INSTALL.txt, and http://www.scratchbox.org/documentation/user/scratchbox-1.0/html/installdoc.html | 15:50 |
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| zuh | mbuf: Is it owned by the group sbox and have you added the user to scratchbox with /scratchbox/sbin/sbox_adduser? | 15:58 |
| mbuf | zuh that step i haven't done yet | 15:59 |
| mbuf | zuh, it is confusing with two isntall guides | 15:59 |
| mbuf | *install | 15:59 |
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| mbuf | zuh, i did sb-adduser shaks, is it the same thing? | 16:00 |
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| zuh | possibly... That's probably just a wrapper for the one I pointed out. Like the /usr/bin/scratchbox is a wrapper for /scratchbox/login. | 16:01 |
| mbuf | zuh, i tried it as root, #/scratchbox/sbin/sbox_adduser user, it says, user account already exists | 16:02 |
| zuh | Maybe you didn't add the user to the sbox group? | 16:02 |
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| zuh | The sbox_adduser does that only optionally, but AFAIK it's needed anyway | 16:03 |
| mbuf | zuh, user is part of sbox group | 16:03 |
| zuh | And the /usr/bin/scratchbox is owned by that group? | 16:03 |
| jonnylamb | If you've just added your user to sbox group, you need to log out, and back in again. | 16:04 |
| mbuf | zuh, no, it is owned by root | 16:04 |
| keesj | Hi | 16:04 |
| mbuf | jonnylamb, gotcha, had to logout and login, thanks | 16:05 |
| jonnylamb | mbuf: No worries. This is no sbox thing btw. If you ever add a user to a group, that user must log back in (if he or she was already logged in) for changes to take place. (at least on Gnu-based OS's). | 16:07 |
| mbuf | jonnylamb, i see | 16:08 |
| Sho_ | btw: is it legal to edit /home/use/.osso/menus/applications.menu by hand, or will the package manager roll over and die during uninstallation if it doesn't find the entries there? I assume the applications.menu is generated post-install from the .desktop files, but I'd rather not find out the hardware whether I'm wrong ;) | 16:10 |
| Sho_ | *the hard way | 16:10 |
| Sho_ | (freudian mega-typo ..) | 16:10 |
| keesj | Sho_: I don't know what the applications.menu is supposed to do | 16:11 |
| keesj | on the maemo website there is a lot of docs and refs about the .desktop files , I think that they don't need to live in the users' home dir | 16:12 |
| Sho_ | keesj: It seems to contain the folder structure of the menu and the application entries, as references to .desktop files | 16:12 |
| Sho_ | keesj: Basically I want to move some of the entries around | 16:12 |
| Sho_ | (because my "Extras" menu has gotten uncomfortably long) | 16:12 |
| keesj | the "official" way is to change the symlinks somehwere in /etc | 16:12 |
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| mbuf | sb-conf: No such devkit: debian, i have installed scratchbox-devkit-debian_1.0.8_i396.deb already | 16:14 |
| keesj | 1.0.8 ? that is pretty recent | 16:15 |
| keesj | and what is i396? | 16:15 |
| mbuf | keesj, that is a type, its 386 | 16:16 |
| mbuf | *typo | 16:16 |
| zuh | Sho_: The .menu under the home dir is totally legit file to tinker with (provided that you don't break the syntax of course ;), that's what the control panel plugin does | 16:17 |
| Sho_ | zuh: There's a control panel plugin to edit the menu? | 16:18 |
| Sho_ | That sounds like something I might be interested in ;) | 16:18 |
| zuh | Yes, it's titled something like "panels" IIRC. It's the one with the icon that looks like a button. | 16:20 |
| zuh | When you open that you'll see a "organize menus" button | 16:20 |
| zuh | Which opens up a dialog for modifying the menu with drag and drop (and which has invisible rules against directly moving certain items, which makes no sense at all to me...) | 16:22 |
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| Sho_ | zuh: It's a third-party add-on though, right? | 16:23 |
| zuh | No | 16:24 |
| zuh | It's included on the device | 16:24 |
| * Sho_ must be blind | 16:24 | |
| mbuf | if i am missing this file, /scratchbox/packages/maemo-sdk-rootstrap_3.1_i386.tgz, what did i miss in the steps? | 16:25 |
| mbuf | urgh, forgot to copy the files | 16:26 |
| Sho_ | zuh: ah, "Navigation" it is, along with "Organize favorites" | 16:27 |
| zuh | Uh, it was so cryptic? | 16:27 |
| unique311 | anybody in here use synergy with their NIT | 16:27 |
| zuh | At least in finnish it talks about "panels", but "navigation" makes no sense at all :) | 16:28 |
| unique311 | if you do, i found a nice GUI app to make using it less of a hassle....compile with no issues... | 16:29 |
| Sho_ | zuh: Much better now -- thanks! | 16:29 |
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| henkt | any body knows the best tutorial for beginers of python ? | 16:41 |
| lmoura | henkt, do you mean python for maemo or 'pure python'? | 16:41 |
| melmoth | http://docs.python.org/tut/ | 16:43 |
| melmoth | _THE_ tutorial | 16:44 |
| melmoth | once you are confident with the main python tutorial, dig maemo specific:http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/python_maemo_3.x_howto.html | 16:46 |
| henkt | lmoura, python for maemo | 16:48 |
| lmoura | melmoth, there's an updated version at pymaemo.garage | 16:48 |
| lmoura | http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/documentation/pymaemo_tutorial/python_maemo_howto.html | 16:48 |
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| mbuf | alright, setup Maemo without Internet connectivity on laptop, phew, manual install takes time | 16:53 |
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| mbuf | thanks all | 16:59 |
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| henkt | can I test now with few codes of python conectivity of internet from my maimo plat form | 17:03 |
| henkt | any body advice me such sample code ? | 17:04 |
| lmoura | henkt, there are some examples in the python-conic | 17:04 |
| lmoura | I don't think they're exported in the package | 17:04 |
| lmoura | you can get them here: https://garage.maemo.org/svn/pymaemo/packages/python-conic/trunk/tests/ | 17:05 |
| henkt | ok tanks lmoura,I will check them out | 17:10 |
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| Blacksito | hi | 17:11 |
| henkt | lmoura, I got the following meassage when I run test_connect.py | 17:15 |
| henkt | [sbox-SDK_X86: ~] > ./test_connect.py | 17:15 |
| henkt | connect(): | 17:15 |
| henkt | python2.5[6556]: GLIB DEBUG ConIc - con_ic_connection_send_event(0x80ed408, (null), (null), 1) | 17:15 |
| henkt | connection_cb(<conic.Connection object (ConIcConnection) at 0xb7cc40a4>, <conic.ConnectionEvent object (ConIcConnectionEvent) at 0xb7cc40cc>, aa55) | 17:15 |
| henkt | (DISCONNECTED (None, None, 1, 0) | 17:15 |
| lmoura | oh, I forgot to mention. They just work on the device | 17:16 |
| lmoura | :) | 17:16 |
| henkt | :( | 17:16 |
| henkt | how do I get the one I can test on PC | 17:16 |
| lmoura | while developing it, I had to edit/compile/package in the desktop and switch to the device | 17:17 |
| lmoura | well, I don't know if it's possible :( | 17:17 |
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| lmoura | (and as I was playing with the connectivity, I had to use the device's terminal, no ssh...) | 17:18 |
| henkt | I read in maemo tutorial that it is posible to test atlist internet conection but the rest can not be tested unless it is on device | 17:18 |
| henkt | but may not neccesarly be on python. may be on c or... | 17:18 |
| Al | hello there | 17:19 |
| henkt | lmoura, ru there | 17:20 |
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| lmoura | I'm cheking the connectivity guide | 17:20 |
| henkt | okey | 17:20 |
| lmoura | http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/howto_connectivity_guide_bora.html | 17:20 |
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| lmoura | henkt, I didn't find any mention to using the connectivity while on scratchbox =\ | 17:22 |
| Al | sorry guys, and girls, of course... someone have any idea how to put short cut on n800 desktop | 17:23 |
| henkt | lmoura, wait let me show you | 17:23 |
| pupnik | hi Al, no. i start apps through the menu | 17:24 |
| henkt | http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_tutorial_bora.html#internet | 17:25 |
| henkt | Testing Limitations There are limitations for testing the connectivity with the SDK. It is possible to make and run Internet connected application inside Scratchbox with the PC SDK rootstrap, but it is of course not possible to test the WLAN and Bluetooth connections in it without the real hardware. | 17:25 |
| Al | pupnik, there is IDEA prg, but it s too static, you can t move the application inside the desk | 17:26 |
| lmoura | henkt, I think he means: "You can access internet from scratchbox, but you cant play with the connectivity API..." | 17:26 |
| unique311 | anybody want the QuickSynergy deb? | 17:27 |
| Al | sorry, but i m using the n800 only for 2 days i m very noooobbbssss | 17:29 |
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| melmoth | Al look on gargae i think there is such an application startup laucnher or something that ley you have 'icons' on the desktop | 17:31 |
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| melmoth | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/simple-launcher/ | 17:32 |
| melmoth | I guess it the above one | 17:32 |
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| Al | thanks a lot... I will try as soon as possibile... | 17:35 |
| unique311 | peace out.....movie time.... | 17:35 |
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| Al | see you soon my dears... I m gooing to install some ulty on my little nokia... have a nice evening.. | 17:38 |
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| henkt | tanks, lmoura | 17:39 |
| Sho_ | I wonder if anybody has ever tried running the free 'Evaluation Kit' of Opera 9 for Devices, which is available for Linux/ARM, on the N800 .. :-) | 17:40 |
| lmoura | henkt, no problem | 17:40 |
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| Pr370r14n0 | hi everyone! | 17:43 |
| Pr370r14n0 | anybody succesfull working the usb-host-mode in n800?? | 17:43 |
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| Hyperion|n800 | has any one had truble getting apt-get to update properly lately? | 19:04 |
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| keesj | Hyperion|n800: I alway's have :p , usualy it's a repo that died | 19:22 |
| Hyperion|n800 | ya i tkink abiword was my offender this time | 19:26 |
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| pupnik | is it can be raep time? | 23:12 |
| pupnik | Songs To Drink and Drive By - http://www.archive.org/download/csr001/2-13-TZL.mp3 | 23:17 |
| livingtm_ | Is it possible to use an IDE on the host, and host it compile in scratchbox? I'd like to use kdevelop, but obviously i need hildon libs that are going to be scratchbox-specific | 23:18 |
| pupnik | maybe you just need to apt-get source kdevelop within the scratchbox armel environment | 23:20 |
| pupnik | and compile it | 23:20 |
| pupnik | but ... sheesh k-anything is a pig | 23:20 |
| livingtm_ | wont I think be limited to the xepher window? | 23:20 |
| pupnik | yes | 23:20 |
| livingtm_ | and the maemo environment | 23:20 |
| pupnik | some guys ported kde to the tablet | 23:21 |
| pupnik | it's an evil bad lame sick idea though | 23:21 |
| livingtm_ | hm | 23:21 |
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| pupnik | you know what i use? | 23:21 |
| pupnik | vi | 23:21 |
| livingtm_ | hehe | 23:21 |
| livingtm_ | its more the build management that im interested in | 23:22 |
| pupnik | and LOTs of windows | 23:22 |
| pupnik | ah | 23:22 |
| livingtm_ | cause im not really well versed in writing my own makefiles | 23:22 |
| livingtm_ | maybe im just being lazy | 23:22 |
| pupnik | oh build environments are scary and scary | 23:22 |
| pupnik | i look at packages and get the horrors all the time | 23:22 |
| pupnik | but then you start to fight through the jungle | 23:23 |
| jonnylamb | Being able to write ones own Makefiles is a skill one will never regret! | 23:23 |
| pupnik | i can write makefiles, this is not the issue | 23:23 |
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| pupnik | porting real apps is schwboaaang! | 23:24 |
| jonnylamb | pupnik: I was actually talking to livingtm_ :P | 23:24 |
| livingtm_ | jonnylamb, yeah i agree | 23:24 |
| jonnylamb | The GNU/Make manual is actually managable too.. | 23:24 |
| livingtm_ | i was spoiled by visual studio | 23:24 |
| livingtm_ | to what extent is automake "auto"? | 23:24 |
| livingtm_ | isnt that what the dpkg-buildpackage uses? | 23:25 |
| jonnylamb | Eugh! I moved over to Linux before it took control over me! | 23:25 |
| livingtm_ | jonnylamb, lucky :-) | 23:25 |
| jonnylamb | Err those tools are very different.. | 23:25 |
| livingtm_ | and it was VB too.... | 23:25 |
| jonnylamb | Automake compiles the program; dpkg-bp creates a Debian package based on yet more make rules in debian/rules.. | 23:26 |
| livingtm_ | jonnylamb, I built the maemopad example using the dpkg method, seemed simple enough | 23:26 |
| livingtm_ | then i tried to debianize my own package... | 23:26 |
| suihkulokki | alp? | 23:26 |
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| suihkulokki | or any other maemo/mono guy awake? | 23:27 |
| jonnylamb | livingtm_: Heh, I feel a 'but' coming on! | 23:27 |
| livingtm_ | and started building my 3 file project by hand :-) | 23:27 |
| * jonnylamb goes for dinner. | 23:27 | |
| livingtm_ | caus eit was just easier that way | 23:27 |
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| livingtm_ | Im try to write a tiny little project in C++ with TCP sockets.. is there a recommended tcp socket library that is appropriate for this platform? | 23:30 |
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| rhsanborn | anyone know of an image manipulation package that can be run via script that will run on the 800? I'm looking for something that will take images off a mem card and shrink then so that they are asier to upload to an online gallery | 23:55 |
| melmoth | imagemagick | 23:56 |
| melmoth | you may have to port it though | 23:56 |
| rhsanborn | melmoth, thanks, will look into it | 23:56 |
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