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| Blacksitox | hi | 02:50 |
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| Blacksitox | speak spanish ? | 02:50 |
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| slow_ | hello | 04:27 |
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| dolfun | stop the torture | 04:29 |
| dolfun | stop government torture | 04:30 |
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| slow_ | any ideas of why I'm getting "Scratchbox devkit debian not found." even if apt-get says that "scratchbox-devkit-debian is already the newest version."? | 04:31 |
| slow_ | ("maemo-sdk-install_3.1.sh" is the one complaining about the devkit...) | 04:32 |
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| dolfun | hi unique311 | 04:35 |
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| unique311 | hello | 04:42 |
| dolfun | hi hi | 04:42 |
| dolfun | torture... torture... torture.... | 04:42 |
| unique311 | tell me about it | 04:43 |
| dolfun | you can be tortured for no reason now | 04:43 |
| unique311 | sucks....i havent been playing with my n800 | 04:43 |
| unique311 | thats torture... | 04:43 |
| unique311 | ran out of stuff to do with it... | 04:43 |
| dolfun | well ... it's time to say fuck maemo | 04:44 |
| dolfun | and fuck toys | 04:44 |
| dolfun | we live free or die as slaves | 04:44 |
| dolfun | and the net is closing in | 04:44 |
| dolfun | and none of this maemo shit matters any more | 04:44 |
| dolfun | real id card | 04:45 |
| dolfun | global empire | 04:45 |
| unique311 | lol | 04:45 |
| Blacksitox | what the tutorial for installation the maemo in the nokia N800 ? | 04:46 |
| unique311 | maybe if n800 came with another OS...the linux community would embrace hacking the hell out of it... | 04:46 |
| dolfun | we can't work on open source | 04:46 |
| dolfun | if we are locked up in slave camps | 04:46 |
| dolfun | see there is this freedom thing that needs to be in effect | 04:47 |
| unique311 | i don't follow... | 04:47 |
| dolfun | before we can talk about fun things like PDAs and Open Source | 04:47 |
| dolfun | if you are locked up in a concentration camp | 04:47 |
| dolfun | you can't play with your MID or N800 | 04:47 |
| unique311 | ok | 04:47 |
| unique311 | concentration camps.. | 04:48 |
| unique311 | and this is happening where> | 04:49 |
| unique311 | ? | 04:49 |
| dolfun | USA. | 04:49 |
| unique311 | no its not | 04:49 |
| unique311 | i live in NY | 04:49 |
| dolfun | they exist. They are currently empty | 04:49 |
| unique311 | no concentration camps here... | 04:49 |
| Blacksitox | hey http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5486/025wo2.jpg | 04:49 |
| unique311 | and you know this how? | 04:49 |
| Blacksitox | my Nokia n800 :D | 04:49 |
| Blacksitox | what the tutorial for installation the maemo in the nokia N800 ? | 04:49 |
| Blacksitox | :( | 04:50 |
| dolfun | 04:50 | |
| unique311 | hold on Blacksitox | 04:50 |
| unique311 | maemo.org | 04:51 |
| dolfun | sorry to spoil the fun. but we need freedom before we can have nice PDA toys | 04:51 |
| unique311 | tutorial section | 04:51 |
| unique311 | we have freedom in america.. | 04:51 |
| Blacksitox | unique311, my english is bad :( sorry | 04:51 |
| unique311 | may not be the best complete.. | 04:51 |
| Blacksitox | for the installation ? | 04:51 |
| unique311 | but better than most. | 04:51 |
| unique311 | http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/ | 04:51 |
| unique311 | try that | 04:51 |
| unique311 | dolfun where are you from? | 04:52 |
| unique311 | and do you have proof of these concentration camps in amrica? | 04:52 |
| Blacksitox | unique311, Im from Boliva | 04:52 |
| Blacksitox | Bolivia* | 04:52 |
| dolfun | yeah just google them - about 800 | 04:52 |
| Blacksitox | ups sorry | 04:52 |
| dolfun | hi Blacksitox | 04:53 |
| Blacksitox | heya dolfun | 04:53 |
| unique311 | dolfun you lost me.. | 04:53 |
| dolfun | we all need fairly free societies to do our happy computer work | 04:53 |
| dolfun | the bad stuff is coming real fast in the USA | 04:53 |
| dolfun | unique311: bad bad things going down in your country | 04:54 |
| unique311 | if you say so... | 04:55 |
| unique311 | doesn't seem that way to me.... | 04:55 |
| dolfun | you have to spend time researching it | 04:55 |
| dolfun | i won't convince you here | 04:55 |
| unique311 | and worry myself.. | 04:55 |
| unique311 | no thanks.. | 04:55 |
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| unique311 | i'm happy not knowing what my countries government is doing to maintain the super power status that we have now.. | 04:56 |
| dolfun | heh .. 2008... you have a chance to turn it around... | 04:56 |
| dolfun | last chance | 04:56 |
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| unique311 | lol | 04:56 |
| dolfun | really | 04:57 |
| dolfun | it snaps shut like a trap | 04:57 |
| unique311 | unless aliens come to earth and fuck with the US...i doubt anything that bad is going to happen.. | 04:57 |
| dolfun | i am warning you now | 04:57 |
| dolfun | it happened in germany in 1939 | 04:57 |
| unique311 | warn the government.. | 04:58 |
| unique311 | not me.. | 04:58 |
| dolfun | it happened in the ussr in 1914 | 04:58 |
| dolfun | you are the only hope | 04:58 |
| unique311 | and the US is doing everything in its power not to repeat history.. | 04:58 |
| dolfun | no man you like maemo and the nokia because it is a free OS | 04:59 |
| dolfun | you can port stuff to it | 04:59 |
| dolfun | the nokias are about freedom | 04:59 |
| dolfun | apply that to the rest of your life | 04:59 |
| unique311 | honestly...unless the rest of the world gang up..i doubt any other country have a chance at war with the US....... | 04:59 |
| unique311 | now if you talking self destruction...then ok..maybe.... | 04:59 |
| dolfun | yes i am | 04:59 |
| dolfun | the rest of the world is not a threat | 04:59 |
| unique311 | exactly... | 05:00 |
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| unique311 | so how, if you know.....are we going to destroy ourselves? | 05:00 |
| unique311 | in theory.. | 05:00 |
| Sulis | couldn't china pose a threat to....everyone... | 05:00 |
| unique311 | no | 05:01 |
| unique311 | too far away.... | 05:01 |
| unique311 | they cannot bring the fight to us... | 05:01 |
| unique311 | we abosultely can bring it to them | 05:01 |
| Sulis | they have a navy and an air force | 05:01 |
| Blacksitox | speak spanish ? | 05:01 |
| unique311 | not as big as we do.... | 05:02 |
| unique311 | <---- prior navy... | 05:02 |
| unique311 | unless your navy have some major aircraft carrier power...you hold no weight.. | 05:02 |
| unique311 | we have around 14 | 05:02 |
| unique311 | heard the brits have around 2 or 3 | 05:03 |
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| dolfun | unique311: no preemptive wars | 05:06 |
| dolfun | unique311: defend the USA | 05:07 |
| dolfun | don't defend corporate profits | 05:07 |
| Sulis | i think we have 2 | 05:07 |
| dolfun | don't go to war for the UN or for some corporation | 05:07 |
| unique311 | i know. | 05:07 |
| Sulis | <-- english | 05:07 |
| unique311 | made that mistake once already... | 05:08 |
| Sulis | mistake? | 05:08 |
| unique311 | i did operation afghanistan freedom, and operation iraqi freedom.... | 05:09 |
| unique311 | OEF...i was all for... | 05:09 |
| Sulis | ah-hah | 05:09 |
| unique311 | but OIF had some discrepencies i didn't like... | 05:09 |
| unique311 | http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/images/ch-cv-cdf-theme-001.jpg | 05:10 |
| unique311 | lol chinese aircraft carrier.. | 05:10 |
| unique311 | ! | 05:10 |
| unique311 | 1 | 05:10 |
| Sulis | and that seems to be a microlite taking off from it | 05:10 |
| unique311 | reading another article.... | 05:13 |
| unique311 | theriegister.co.uk | 05:13 |
| unique311 | a flying aircarft carrier... | 05:14 |
| unique311 | lol | 05:14 |
| unique311 | was amaze to be on one, and it stayed afloat.. | 05:14 |
| unique311 | one that flies...lol | 05:14 |
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| unique311 | the microlite is doing a fly by.... | 05:15 |
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| Sulis | ...i know, that was a joke | 05:16 |
| unique311 | 2.5 billion for 2 more aircraft carriers..britains royal navy... | 05:18 |
| unique311 | alot of money.. | 05:18 |
| Sulis | is that pounds or dollars? | 05:20 |
| unique311 | dollars | 05:20 |
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| Sulis | course it's a lot of money either way | 05:21 |
| unique311 | http://www.bobhenneman.info/china.htm | 05:21 |
| unique311 | check that out... | 05:21 |
| Sulis | the next two won't be built for several years though | 05:21 |
| unique311 | how do they plan to move it.. | 05:21 |
| unique311 | oh no....the flying aricraft carrier...lol | 05:22 |
| Sulis | wow, so that's actually a building...cool | 05:23 |
| unique311 | lol | 05:23 |
| dolfun | Support Ron Paul! Read his articles on lewrockwell.com. Listen to the interviews on antiwar.com | 05:24 |
| unique311 | build a building looking like that..imagine the real thing.. | 05:24 |
| dolfun | KILL THE SLIME! | 05:25 |
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| dolfun | heh live free | 06:53 |
| dolfun | support Ron Paul | 06:53 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 08:50 |
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| Andy80 | hi | 10:02 |
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| inz | tigert, pong | 10:59 |
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| acydlord | i wish my n800 looked as vibrant as the ones in the nokia pics lol | 11:09 |
| acydlord | especially the whole screen being fully visible in direct sunlight part | 11:09 |
| X-Fade | acydlord: Yeah, it would have been nice if they used a reflective lcd.. | 11:11 |
| acydlord | indeed | 11:11 |
| acydlord | might be able to add in via a hack, bit that would be tricky | 11:12 |
| X-Fade | I want to browse websites while lying in my chair in the sun.. :) | 11:12 |
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| acydlord | and now i wish i had $250 laying around for the n800 navicore kit for geocache stuff | 11:12 |
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| cosmo | acydlord: it's VERY overpriced.. i'd buy it otherwise | 11:13 |
| X-Fade | acydlord: you can use a cheaper gps mouse for that too.. | 11:13 |
| acydlord | that would be nice indeed, i live in arizona, cant get away from the sun | 11:13 |
| cosmo | you can get a full navigator device for 199e | 11:13 |
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| acydlord | yeah i know, i was looking at the garmin bluetooth gps puck which i think outpost had on sale for $99 | 11:14 |
| cosmo | i think there have been bt gps's for sale at 60e | 11:14 |
| cosmo | 140e just for software..no way | 11:14 |
| acydlord | they should offer just the gps device without the navicore software, would probably drop the price considerably | 11:15 |
| inz | acyd, are you still working on the wordpress/sqlite? | 11:16 |
| acydlord | i havent had much time to work on it, got sidetracked with some other projects i had put on hold | 11:16 |
| cosmo | acydlord: you can get cheap bt gps's easily | 11:17 |
| inz | acyd, no pressure, just checking ;) | 11:17 |
| cosmo | but no way getting navicore software | 11:17 |
| cosmo | and maemo mapper is not an option for car navigation | 11:17 |
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| acydlord | maemo mapper is good enough software for the uses i'd want it for | 11:17 |
| gla55 | acydlord: i'd imagine the gps puck to be the same nokia pucks that are available without anything extra? | 11:20 |
| acydlord | i dont drive, so i'm more interested in geocaching | 11:20 |
| acydlord | indeed gla55 | 11:20 |
| gla55 | ld-3w is 90e here | 11:21 |
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| acydlord | i found a couple for around $70 USD but i don't know if they would work with the n800 | 11:23 |
| acydlord | like this holux GPSlim 240 looks nice, about the size of a large thumb drive, and it's only $80 | 11:25 |
| cosmo | i believe any bt gps should work | 11:25 |
| gla55 | yeah.. there's not that much differences | 11:27 |
| gla55 | this one puck i had for a while sucked though | 11:27 |
| gla55 | had to boot it everytime for a new connection to it | 11:27 |
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| acydlord | this one i'm looking at has road, offroad, and marine navigation, which would be good since i'm getting back in to kayaking | 11:28 |
| acydlord | and they have a decent return policy, maybe i'll pick one up in a week or so | 11:29 |
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| acydlord | does anyoen know if anybody has a twitter app in progress or planned? | 11:31 |
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| florian | good morning | 11:54 |
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| acydlord | morning | 11:57 |
| Free_maN | how full saving the n770 ? | 11:58 |
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| osfameron | er? | 12:00 |
| `0660 | this empty discarding an n800. | 12:02 |
| `0660 | osfameron, you don't know pidgin english? :) | 12:03 |
| osfameron | `0660: apparently not :-) | 12:04 |
| `0660 | it's quite easy | 12:04 |
| osfameron | oooo! irssi autocompletes your nick on 0<TAB> | 12:04 |
| osfameron | that's handy, cos Italian keyboards don't have backtick handy... | 12:05 |
| `0660 | just type every word that come in your mind while trying to get something said | 12:05 |
| `0660 | yeah | 12:05 |
| `0660 | irssi <3 | 12:05 |
| osfameron | oh, I get the principle. It's what I use while communicating in several languages (often in English too) | 12:05 |
| osfameron | I just didn't get the original sentence's meaning. | 12:06 |
| `0660 | me neither | 12:06 |
| `0660 | part of the deal is that the same words are repeated as long as required or the other participant gives up :) | 12:07 |
| roukin | hi everybody, I have two N770 and I want them to communicate through the bluetooth. But they don't see each other! Can someone help? thx | 12:08 |
| osfameron | `0660: oh, I thought that was the English technique: just keep repeating the words, possibly slower and louder. After all, foreigners are only *pretending* not to speak English. | 12:08 |
| `0660 | :) | 12:09 |
| acydlord | roukin, trying to get them to communicate as in sending files back and forth? | 12:09 |
| roukin | yes | 12:10 |
| acydlord | i think you may need to install the obex applications to get them to work that way | 12:10 |
| acydlord | i may be mistaken though, i never tried to transfer files that way | 12:10 |
| roukin | ok, I take a look at this, thank you | 12:11 |
| acydlord | you're welcome | 12:12 |
| Efrael | Should I put my application's custom made 26x26 icons to $datadir/icons/hicolor/26x26/hildon ? | 12:26 |
| acydlord | i think so | 12:28 |
| zuh | $datadir/icons/hicolor/26x26/apps should be fine too (the subdir has no real meaning when searching for the icons from icon theme) | 12:30 |
| acydlord | i think the n800 should have come with the tango icon set | 12:32 |
| * zuh has it installed | 12:32 | |
| N800 | i think the n800 should have come with windows... <---ducks... | 12:32 |
| acydlord | lmao | 12:33 |
| Efrael | Here here! | 12:33 |
| acydlord | i don't know, i could just imagine it sitting on the loading screen for days | 12:33 |
| kulve | zuh: is it better to install few app specific icons to hicolor or to /usr/share/appname/foobar? | 12:33 |
| acydlord | zuh, did you replace all the default hildon icons with the tango versions? | 12:34 |
| kulve | I have the tango packaged for n800. I added 40x40 and 64x64 icons and removed the svgs | 12:34 |
| kulve | but it doesn't have links for maemo icons | 12:34 |
| zuh | acydlord: no, I have manually made few symlinks so that the tango versions are used instead of the maemo ones | 12:35 |
| kulve | i.e. most of the icons will be the same | 12:35 |
| acydlord | ahh | 12:35 |
| zuh | There's loads and loads of icons for maemo, and only some of them have similar icons in tango | 12:36 |
| acydlord | thats true | 12:36 |
| zuh | It would have helped if maemo icons would use the icon-naming spec where applicable, but well... | 12:37 |
| Efrael | zuh: That kulve's question is an interesting one. Is /usr/share/appname/foobar a more.. hmm.. acceptable option? | 12:38 |
| Efrael | The icons are application specific | 12:38 |
| zuh | Efrael: If it is an icon that only your application uses, yes, share/appname. (I was thinking the icons which show up in the menu) | 12:39 |
| Efrael | In the application's toolbar actually | 12:39 |
| kulve | so, install icons used in the app to share/appname and the icons used by the framework for the app into icon theme | 12:40 |
| Efrael | Is hildon toolbar part of the framework? | 12:43 |
| Efrael | In another words did you mean that since I'm using the icons in the toolbar I should install the application's custom icons to $datadir/icons/hicolor/26x26/hildon? | 12:44 |
| kulve | no | 12:45 |
| kulve | I'm meant the icons showed in navigator's menu etc | 12:45 |
| Efrael | Ah, I see. Okay. | 12:45 |
| Efrael | Thank you | 12:46 |
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| acydlord | anyone ever notice how websites always seem to only take a dump on you when you're odifying some code? | 13:09 |
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| Gathaja | does anyone have any experience on messaging with wlancond with dbus? I'm trying to request scan but the method return message has no params. | 13:14 |
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| acydlord | sure don't, sorry | 13:17 |
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| Gathaja | one problem is that I'm not even sure is the method name right because the constant is not in the files that are in osso-wlan package | 13:24 |
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| MikaT | Hi all, could someone please tell me what is the recommended repository to find libdaemon-dev package for Maemo 2.2? | 14:03 |
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| kulve | if there is one.. | 14:05 |
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| greedo | hi | 15:08 |
| greedo | i'm successfully streaming audio using mediatomb | 15:08 |
| greedo | i can use either canola,media streamer or media player | 15:08 |
| greedo | however i would like to know if there is a linux upnp media server that is able to recode videos on the fly | 15:08 |
| greedo | so that it matches the n800 resolution | 15:08 |
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| mk8 | Hi to all ... | 15:09 |
| MoRpHeUz | greedo: well, it's not a upnp media server...but it's going on that way... | 15:13 |
| greedo | "it" ? | 15:13 |
| MoRpHeUz | greedo: it's called gmyth-streamer | 15:13 |
| MoRpHeUz | greedo: take a look at my blog | 15:13 |
| greedo | is it part of mythtv? | 15:13 |
| MoRpHeUz | greedo: http://labs.morpheuz.eng.br/blog/ | 15:13 |
| MoRpHeUz | greedo: it can also stream live-tv and recorded videos from mythtv | 15:14 |
| MoRpHeUz | as well another video files on disk | 15:14 |
| greedo | what do you mean by "recorded videos from mythtv" ? | 15:14 |
| greedo | can't it serve any avi or mpg file ? | 15:14 |
| greedo | ah right | 15:14 |
| greedo | sounds nice | 15:14 |
| greedo | can i install it from apt-get on ubuntu feisty N | 15:15 |
| greedo | ? | 15:15 |
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| MoRpHeUz | yes, you can, but it can also retrieve videos from a mythtv backend | 15:15 |
| MoRpHeUz | greedo: for gmyth-streamer download: | 15:15 |
| MoRpHeUz | svn co http://gmyth.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gmyth/trunk/gmyth-stream/server/0.3/ gms | 15:15 |
| MoRpHeUz | it's a beta yet | 15:15 |
| greedo | ok | 15:15 |
| MoRpHeUz | you'll need mencoder from cvs and gmyth if you want to use mythtv's features... | 15:16 |
| MoRpHeUz | but some people are doing tests and everything is working 100% until now =) | 15:16 |
| MoRpHeUz | greedo: if you want, I can help you install it.... | 15:17 |
| greedo | well i didn't have a look at mythtv yet, i just installed mediatomb picking it randomly among mythtv and ushare | 15:17 |
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| MoRpHeUz | greedo: ok...but if you want, gms can stream another content.not just mythtv's ones.. it transcodes on the fly | 15:23 |
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| ajturner_ | MoRpHeUz: so gmyth can in fact stream mythtv to n800? | 15:25 |
| MoRpHeUz | ajturner_: yes! | 15:26 |
| ajturner_ | MoRpHeUz: sweeet! to canola and others? | 15:26 |
| ajturner_ | that is awesome | 15:26 |
| MoRpHeUz | just received a mail from a guy in UK that is watching live tv in his n800 while he is working hehe | 15:26 |
| greedo | afaik, canola does not support video | 15:26 |
| ajturner_ | my mythtv box is borked, so I need to reinstall (was gentoo, probably redo w/ ubuntu), but will play with that immediately | 15:26 |
| MoRpHeUz | ajturner_: you can play using mplayer... ;-) but maybe soon other applications will support it | 15:26 |
| MoRpHeUz | take a look at my blog and if you need help installing (it's not easy yet...), just mail me | 15:27 |
| ajturner_ | MoRpHeUz: url? | 15:28 |
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| MoRpHeUz | http://labs.morpheuz.eng.br/blog/ | 15:29 |
| ajturner_ | MoRpHeUz: what disto do you use? | 15:30 |
| MoRpHeUz | ajturner_: we did tests on ubuntu/suse/gentoo/slackware ...all worked | 15:30 |
| vnese | hello all, i m a comer to maemo, on my effort to install it in my debian, i got 'Running apt-get update on 'SDK_ARMEL'. | 15:30 |
| vnese | Err http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Packages Could not resolve 'repository.maemo.org' i think there is problem with the proxy because I already fix the file source.list | 15:30 |
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| MoRpHeUz | vnese: take a look at /etc/nsswitch.conf | 15:31 |
| vnese | on my target ? | 15:31 |
| ajturner_ | MoRpHeUz: I mean you personally - what do you recommend for your mythtv box? gentoo was really nice, but updating was a PITA | 15:31 |
| greedo | MoRpHeUz: what do i need to get it running ? do i also need to install mythtv parts ? | 15:31 |
| MoRpHeUz | vnese: inside /scratchbox | 15:31 |
| MoRpHeUz | vnese: then make sure you have a line like this: "hosts: files dns" remove other things in front of "hosts" | 15:31 |
| MoRpHeUz | ajturner_: maybe ubuntu... =) | 15:32 |
| MoRpHeUz | greedo: you just need mythtv parts if you want to retrieve anything from mythtv... | 15:32 |
| MoRpHeUz | greedo: otherwise you just need mencoder from cvs and gmyth-streamer... | 15:32 |
| ajturner_ | MoRpHeUz: no actualy mythtv-frontend on n800? ;) | 15:32 |
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| MoRpHeUz | not yet ;-) | 15:33 |
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| greedo | MoRpHeUz: is it important to have mencoder from cvs ? | 15:33 |
| vnese | MoRpHeUz: delete everything before hosts: ... , i have like : passwd: compat group: compat shadow: compat | 15:33 |
| vnese | ? | 15:33 |
| MoRpHeUz | greedo: yes...otherwise it'll not work..it uses a feature from mencoder that is only present at this newer version (from cvs) | 15:34 |
| MoRpHeUz | vnese: not before, sorry...after...on the same line.. | 15:34 |
| greedo | MoRpHeUz: ok | 15:34 |
| MoRpHeUz | vnese: tell me what do you have in front of hosts.. | 15:34 |
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| vnese | MoRpHeUz: http://pastebin.com/929560 here you are | 15:35 |
| vnese | and my distro is debian etch | 15:36 |
| MoRpHeUz | vnese: make it be like this http://pastebin.com/929562 | 15:36 |
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| vnese | MoRpHeUz: it works, thanks | 15:39 |
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| vnese | and how about the IDE, i currently have anjuta and glade3 for my gtk+ app, do you have any idea for maemo? | 15:44 |
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| greedo | is there a way to configure canola so that items are clickable ? instead of having to click on the up/down arrows ? | 15:45 |
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| vnese | guess half of the people in this room is Finnish :) | 15:54 |
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| tigert | maybe half | 16:00 |
| tigert | dunno | 16:00 |
| X-Fade | greedo: Yes there is. You can configure that via gconf editor.. | 16:00 |
| MoRpHeUz | anybody from oulo ? | 16:03 |
| X-Fade | tigert: I modified search.maemo.org. Are there things that you would style differently? | 16:03 |
| lsobral | greedo, set gconf options: /apps/canola/plugins/uifolder/free_click and /apps/canola/plugins/uicontainer/free_click to True | 16:03 |
| lsobral | Using command line: | 16:04 |
| lsobral | gconftool-2 /apps/canola/plugins/uifolder/free_click -t bool -s true | 16:04 |
| lsobral | gconftool-2 /apps/canola/plugins/uicontainer/free_click -t bool -s true | 16:04 |
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| inz | vnese, I'd guess around 20% | 16:09 |
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| * tigert looks | 16:19 | |
| tigert | I think it looks nice | 16:19 |
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| suihkulokki | looks familiar? http://www.ekxd.com/productshtml/UMPC001.htm :P | 17:50 |
| _Shurik_ | sheesh | 17:50 |
| X-Fade | Wow. They moved the directional controls :) | 17:50 |
| X-Fade | This is a lefty device though :) | 17:51 |
| gla55 | heheh | 17:51 |
| inz | and raped it with win CE | 17:51 |
| X-Fade | Nah, it is all pure photoshop magic.. | 17:52 |
| _Shurik_ | haha | 17:52 |
| _Shurik_ | but.. it has skype | 17:52 |
| X-Fade | Well it is.. Look at the pictures ;) | 17:52 |
| suihkulokki | notice the first picture is photoshopped from the bloody n800 pressrelease | 17:52 |
| _Shurik_ | :) | 17:52 |
| inz | suihku, they've made a 2D rotating webcam! | 17:53 |
| X-Fade | 'Probucts menu' ;) | 17:53 |
| _Shurik_ | haaahaha | 17:53 |
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| inz | "Game, 3D Game, nintendo Game ,flash Game," | 17:54 |
| _Shurik_ | "Jebus!" | 17:54 |
| X-Fade | Well. They did some things better. The placement of the webcam is better than on N800.. | 17:54 |
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| _Shurik_ | Not really. It looks like device is watching me | 17:56 |
| _Shurik_ | although in Comminist China n800 is watching you. | 17:57 |
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| Feron | allo | 17:57 |
| gla55 | hehe | 17:58 |
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| gla55 | well, their other products are the usual china design school too http://www.ekxd.com/productshtml/pmp404.htm | 17:58 |
| _Shurik_ | Game 404 | 17:59 |
| _Shurik_ | I wonder if they have any other HTTP response code games | 17:59 |
| _Shurik_ | 500.... 303... | 18:00 |
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| dpb_ | Is it known that Marbles on the 770 hacker edition isn't working? | 19:07 |
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| _Shurik_ | you can hardly call Marbles "working". It's more of a "playing" | 19:08 |
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| dpb_ | Yes I can. | 19:10 |
| dpb_ | When I press play the screen just flashed black and returns with a "Game paused" state | 19:11 |
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| sbaturzio | Aloha! | 21:35 |
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| Okko | Hi guys | 22:53 |
| Okko | Any tips on how to get 2 gigabytes of stuff from a MMC card to be readable on N800? Looking for some kind of a cheap solution that would be mobile | 22:53 |
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| nomis | Okko: uhm, what prevents you from pluggin it into the N800 and reading it? | 22:57 |
| Okko | uhm, sorry, compactflash card, not MMC | 22:57 |
| nomis | ah, ok. No idea then :) | 22:58 |
| Okko | I have CF cards in my camera and would like to upload them with N800 | 22:58 |
| Okko | there's lots of adapters to get a SD card inside CF, but not the other way around | 22:58 |
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| Jaffa | Okko: mainly cos CF is bigger than SD ;-) | 23:13 |
| Jaffa | USB host (experimental) + USB card reader is probably best bet, or one of those USB-mass-storage copying thingies | 23:13 |
| Okko | 2cm's of cable could solve the size issue | 23:14 |
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| zyxulnaga | Okko: you can use sftp to exchange the data through your pc or laptop | 23:14 |
| Okko | does the usb host work on N800 without soldering? | 23:14 |
| Okko | zyxulnaga: the idea would be to leave pc/laptop at home while on the move and still be able to upload photos | 23:14 |
| suihkulokki | Okko: did you search from the mailing list archives? | 23:14 |
| zyxulnaga | oh | 23:14 |
| Okko | suihkulokki: yes, a bit earlier, but found no solution then. maybe I didn't have the right query words | 23:15 |
| zyxulnaga | there is a software driver that does it but is very unreliable | 23:16 |
| zyxulnaga | it software corrects the information rather than doing soldering | 23:16 |
| kakos | Okko: Yes. The USB Host chip on the N800 does supply some nominal power over the line, so you don't need to make the power injector like you did with the N770. | 23:16 |
| kakos | On the other hand, as people have been saying, the driver is experimental and, from what I hear, is fairly unstable. | 23:17 |
| zyxulnaga | why doesnt nokia fix it and release it | 23:17 |
| kakos | Ask Nokia | 23:17 |
| zyxulnaga | I'll definitely get an answer | 23:18 |
| kakos | Heh | 23:18 |
| kakos | Well, we don't know if they are or not. | 23:18 |
| kakos | For all we know, it could be in the next release along with SDHC support and the ability to summon magical unicorns. | 23:19 |
| Okko | experimental and unstable is bearable maybe, but "may cause file corruption" is not when it comes to uploading photos :) | 23:19 |
| kakos | Theoretically, I would hope mounting a file system read-only wouldn't corrupt your CF card. | 23:19 |
| zyxulnaga | not when connecting wireless usb sticks | 23:20 |
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| Okko | hmh, my card reader reports 500 mA of power need to Windows, wonder if it would even work with the 100 mA of N800 | 23:22 |
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| zyxulnaga | it depends on the reader I think, and the resulting speed you get | 23:26 |
| Okko | mkay | 23:29 |
| Okko | soo anyway, nobody has found a direct adaptor? | 23:29 |
| Okko | that would be the most hassle-free if it would exist :) | 23:29 |
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| edistar | hey, please don't kill me like the debian folks, but where exactly can I find information about setting up a dev-environment for maemo? | 23:33 |
| edistar | cause I want to start porting apps.. | 23:34 |
| Okko | edistar: sorry no pointers from me, but I think the easiest way is to use a ready-made vmware image for the environment | 23:34 |
| edistar | where can I get one? | 23:35 |
| edistar | or can I use scratchbox? | 23:35 |
| Okko | http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/702 from there for example? | 23:36 |
| Okko | (just googled it, haven't used it) | 23:36 |
| edistar | ok, but vmware can't emulate ARM, can it?! | 23:36 |
| edistar | cool, looks good | 23:36 |
| edistar | thanks | 23:36 |
| Okko | you can run the scratchbox inside linux inside vmware inside windows/linux :) | 23:37 |
| edistar | crickey ;) | 23:37 |
| edistar | so I'm running debian/vmware/ubuntu/scratchbox/maemo? | 23:38 |
| Okko | yes i think so | 23:38 |
| zyxulnaga | edistar: it emulates arm | 23:39 |
| zyxulnaga | and you can compile armel binaries in it | 23:39 |
| Okko | it's not the vmware right? it's the scratchbox that emulates arm? | 23:39 |
| zyxulnaga | but its limited if you want to access n800 hw and test that | 23:39 |
| zyxulnaga | I was talking about scratchbox | 23:40 |
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| edistar | I just want to compile simple programs for my 770 | 23:43 |
| edistar | maybe port tiemu to the nokia.. | 23:43 |
| edistar | anyone tried this before? | 23:43 |
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| feig | i wouldn't mind seeing that | 23:43 |
| edistar | exactly.. | 23:44 |
| feig | although octave works really well | 23:44 |
| etrunko | edistar: for 770 try INSTALL.txt in this page: http://repository.maemo.org/stable/gregale/ | 23:44 |
| edistar | thanks | 23:45 |
| etrunko | np | 23:46 |
| edistar | octave... is there a port for maemo? | 23:46 |
| edistar | cool | 23:46 |
| edistar | :) | 23:46 |
| edistar | but it doesn't have such an easy gui/keyboard ;) | 23:46 |
| feig | well, you run it under xterm | 23:46 |
| edistar | btw, can anyone recommend a good bt keyboard? | 23:47 |
| feig | but it works fine | 23:47 |
| feig | even some of the gnuplot stuff (i think) | 23:47 |
| feig | what size keyboard? | 23:47 |
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| edistar | a little smaller than normal | 23:47 |
| edistar | for taking around too.. | 23:47 |
| feig | oh, i have a full sized, and a tiny thumboard style | 23:48 |
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| edistar | thumboard sounds cool | 23:48 |
| feig | the thumboard was basically a waste, although it works fine, it's not exactly easy to type, especially while holding 770 | 23:48 |
| edistar | which one is it? | 23:49 |
| feig | freedom mini or something, lemme check | 23:49 |
| edistar | I am a pianist, so maybe my fingers are exact enough.. | 23:49 |
| feig | http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4989.html | 23:50 |
| feig | the one in the first pic on that page | 23:50 |
| edistar | thanks | 23:50 |
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| edistar | but you can't recommend it? bad quality material too or not? | 23:51 |
| feig | i just thought it was a bit cumbersome to use, trying to hold the device and the keyboard, and type at the same time (esp on the train) | 23:51 |
| edistar | hehe, I'd use it in the train too.. | 23:52 |
| feig | i actually tried to thumb with the onscreen keyboard, and found it pretty usable | 23:52 |
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| edistar | I tried too... but it's to slow for me... | 23:53 |
| edistar | and my screen is already dull where some keys are by the pen.. | 23:53 |
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| feig | oh, gotcha | 23:53 |
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| edistar | hmhm | 23:54 |
| edistar | so I'm looking for an 'external solution' ;) | 23:54 |
| feig | but, it looks like they ditched the mini in favor of the 'slim' | 23:55 |
| feig | http://www.freedominput.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13&Itemid=30 | 23:55 |
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| feig | which looks a lot like the input on a razr phone, which i really don't like, as it's really tough to figure out what key your finger's on | 23:55 |
| edistar | that is true | 23:55 |
| edistar | I don't like lazered keys because you can slip so easily | 23:56 |
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| feig | i really wanted to try one of those | 23:56 |
| edistar | try what? | 23:56 |
| feig | a laser keyboard | 23:57 |
| edistar | ah | 23:57 |
| edistar | yes | 23:57 |
| edistar | it's like the razr ;) | 23:58 |
| feig | hah | 23:58 |
| edistar | :P | 23:58 |
| feig | yea, that's why i got the one that i did | 23:58 |
| edistar | which one was that again? | 23:59 |
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