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| matsavhalev | kakos: maybe try in a digicam? | 00:07 |
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| qgil | any flickr users in da house? | 00:19 |
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| matsavhalev | qgil: occasional user, why? | 00:21 |
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| maddler | hello... | 00:23 |
| qgil | hi matsavhalev, I was thinking of having a group for maemo, but then a I remembered flickr doesn like screenshots | 00:23 |
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| maddler | qgil: hello, dude! | 00:23 |
| qgil | and then I was thinking in a kind of flickr for screenshots, but can't remember the url | 00:23 |
| qgil | hi maddler :) | 00:23 |
| qgil | sharing screenshots (and real screencasts) would be cool, the youtube videos are kinda deceiving many times | 00:24 |
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| qgil | we could have the gallery in maemo.org of course but... | 00:25 |
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| qgil | ... perhaps it is better for maemo evangelization to have it in a <buzz>web2.0</buzz> type of famous site, dunno | 00:25 |
| qgil | and then link / rss in maemo.org | 00:26 |
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| maddler | qgil: hmm... dunno... | 00:27 |
| qgil | well, in fact flickr has "only" >85.000 screenshots: http://flickr.com/search/?q=screenshot&w=all | 00:27 |
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| qgil | I was thinking in flickr because itś something that many people is already using | 00:27 |
| maddler | I think that if we could have a nice gallery on maemo... | 00:27 |
| maddler | I think that "we" should support maemo community spirit... | 00:28 |
| Tak|work | hah, I already have a bunch of sshots on flickr | 00:28 |
| Tak|work | well, where "a bunch" < 20 | 00:28 |
| qgil | http://flickr.com/search/?w=all&q=maemo&m=text | 00:28 |
| qgil | true | 00:28 |
| Tak|work | but none of mine are tagged | 00:29 |
| qgil | perhaps is just a matter of playing rss magic | 00:29 |
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| kelvar | hello i just got the nokia 770 and wanted to install GAIM but it says im missing a protocol any ideas? | 00:30 |
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| maddler | kelvar: you need to install protocol packages... | 00:31 |
| kelvar | where and how do i get thar? | 00:31 |
| maddler | you should see them in application manager... | 00:32 |
| maddler | qgil: any chance to get maemo logo svg? | 00:32 |
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| qgil | http://flickr.com/photos/tags/maemo/ could be an interesting feed at http://maemo.org/news/ ..... | 00:41 |
| qgil | maddler: probably tomorrow I will public the draft trademark policy for community review, including the logos (in svg format) | 00:42 |
| qgil | public --> publish | 00:42 |
| kelvar | maddler: thank you... spent all morning looking for it | 00:44 |
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| maddler | qgil: perfect... | 00:46 |
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| maddler | in the w/e I'll have a new flyer draft... | 00:47 |
| qgil | cool, thanks - sorry for not having been too responsive lately | 00:48 |
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| * Pupnik has to mention one of his favorite chill/electro streams http://www.plusfm.net/plusfm.m3u | 01:02 | |
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| user_ | hi friends | 01:04 |
| user_ | can someone tell me where i can find the xev command compiled for n800? | 01:04 |
| user_ | thanks | 01:04 |
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| Pupnik | i used to have one on it2006 | 01:06 |
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| user_ | thanks pupnik | 01:18 |
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| Pupnik | user_: seems to be part of xbase-clients on debian | 01:20 |
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| Pupnik | maemo.org login still doesn't work. garage.maemo.org login works | 01:49 |
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| tigert | the new site uses garage accounts | 01:55 |
| tigert | as far as I know | 01:55 |
| tigert | but maybe there is still some issues | 01:55 |
| Pupnik | neither bugzilla login nor popup window login for maemo.org works with my working garage login | 01:58 |
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| |tbb| | does the n800 support usb host right now? | 02:11 |
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| bill20r3 | not really. | 02:22 |
| bill20r3 | supposedly there's some hack, but nothing simple. | 02:23 |
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| maddler | later dudes! | 02:38 |
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| k-s | guys, how do I associate my planet to garage acount? My feed still display as "Unknown" | 04:03 |
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| Pupnik | k-s: i think somethings not working with account synch | 05:24 |
| k-s | Pupnik: but do I need to do something special? I have a garage account from months ago | 05:24 |
| Pupnik | i do too | 05:29 |
| Pupnik | can you log in to normal maemo? | 05:29 |
| Pupnik | https://maemo.org -> Log In | 05:30 |
| k-s | normal...? | 05:30 |
| k-s | ah, yep | 05:30 |
| k-s | but I already did that login when it was on test.m.o | 05:30 |
| Pupnik | i can't | 05:30 |
| Pupnik | possibly my issue has to do with my account, and your issue is related to the site upgrade | 05:31 |
| k-s | yep | 05:35 |
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| febb | hello all | 06:15 |
| Tak | good evening | 06:16 |
| sussman | hi | 06:18 |
| sussman | how hard could it be to build emacs in scratchbox? | 06:18 |
| sussman | I mean, cmon, what could possibly go wrong? | 06:18 |
| Tak | zile not good enough? | 06:19 |
| sussman | zile? | 06:19 |
| sussman | never heard of it | 06:19 |
| sussman | is it like emacs? | 06:19 |
| Tak | http://zile.sf.net | 06:20 |
| * sussman looks | 06:21 | |
| sussman | hm, i see a .tar.gz source | 06:26 |
| sussman | but no arm .deb | 06:26 |
| sussman | found it | 06:28 |
| sussman | it's awesome! | 06:32 |
| sussman | thanks | 06:33 |
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| vbraun | Video chat n800 <-> PC gives me no video (PC says "Camera off") but audio works. Can that still be a firewall problem? | 07:14 |
| vbraun | PC doesn't have webcam, but should still show the video from the n800. | 07:14 |
| Pupnik | does turning the firewall off help? | 07:15 |
| vbraun | I tried to turn off as much as possible, but I'm still NAT'ed behind a DSL modem. | 07:15 |
| Pupnik | i see, the modem is the access point also? | 07:16 |
| vbraun | Yes. I tried connecting the nokia to another access point (so that not both are behind the same NAT) but that didn't work either. I don't have control over the second AP's configuration, though. | 07:17 |
| vbraun | But audio works always. | 07:17 |
| vbraun | And I thought that audio and video use the same jabber/xmpp tools to tunnel | 07:18 |
| vbraun | Though that might be wrong. | 07:18 |
| vbraun | FWIW, I enabled upnp in the dsl modem router as per the nokia internet call (beta) FAQs. | 07:20 |
| vbraun | but that didn't help either. | 07:21 |
| Pupnik | if a client needs to connect to a port on the server, i install nmap on the client and run it against the server ip to scan for ports | 07:21 |
| Pupnik | you can also use tools like net/netcat | 07:21 |
| vbraun | they are of course "filtered" since I'm natted. Do you think verizon gives me two public IP's? ;-) | 07:22 |
| Pupnik | oh i see you want to do it from the wan | 07:23 |
| Pupnik | i can nmap if you want | 07:23 |
| vbraun | thanks, but I've got external machines to try that | 07:24 |
| vbraun | but, again, because of the NAT I can't connect from the outside directly (with, e.g., nmap). The computer from the inside has to open a port. Presumeably that must already be done for the audio part. | 07:26 |
| Pupnik | i get it, so you might have to explicitly forward a port on the firewall/router | 07:28 |
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| vbraun | and nokia lists a bunch of ports in the FAQ (or just enable upnp, as they say). But I still get audio but no video. | 07:29 |
| Pupnik | if they're using the same port for both, then maybe it's an application-layer problem | 07:30 |
| vbraun | nokia's windows program doesn't give me much feed-back unfortunately. | 07:32 |
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| forcev | not quite the right place to ask this question I know, but the official place is a bit too quite and haven't had an answer yet... | 10:01 |
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| forcev | with the new midgard powered site, what was used for --with-midgard-config? | 10:01 |
| Pupnik | i forgot the nick of the guy who works on the site | 10:03 |
| Tak | ferenc | 10:04 |
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| forcev | thanks | 10:05 |
| forcev | I appreciate answereing (trying at least) the unrelated question | 10:05 |
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| MDK | aswering vbrauns's question, | 11:00 |
| MDK | the PC client is dumb | 11:00 |
| MDK | if BOTH sides don't have camera, it'll not show ANY video | 11:00 |
| MDK | in other words, if only one party has a camera, no video will be displayed | 11:01 |
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| |tbb| | have anyone successfully installed aircrack-ng 08 on zaurus? | 11:27 |
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| sp3000 | hmm | 11:34 |
| * sp3000 tries to find a link to planet on maemo.org | 11:35 | |
| sp3000 | ah, under "Verfügbare Newsfeeds" on the "News" page | 11:36 |
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| * sp3000 finds it slightly odd that the plaet content blurb on the front page only links the source of the recent item, but not planet | 11:36 | |
| |tbb| | oh wrong channel | 11:38 |
| sp3000 | sweet, oldwiki redirection works now | 11:39 |
| dpb_ | someone should contact the site people so they'd add the march announcements to the new site... | 11:48 |
| AD-N770 | good morning | 11:56 |
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| Pupnik | it2007, rebooter edition | 12:48 |
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| jku_ | can other people log in to the new site with old garage accounts? | 12:53 |
| jku_ | I still can't... | 12:54 |
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| Pupnik | i can't | 12:57 |
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| sussman | hi | 14:25 |
| sussman | I've got scratchbox installed on ubuntu fiesty now, with an appropriam arm-gcc toolchain | 14:26 |
| sussman | I've also installed qemu | 14:26 |
| sussman | but when I set up ' target' with sb-conf, it doesn't show qemu as a 'transparency option' | 14:26 |
| sussman | the installation page just sort of assumes that 'qemu-arm' is available (http://www.scratchbox.org/documentation/user/scratchbox-1.0/html/installdoc.html) | 14:27 |
| sussman | but I have no idea where to get it; my googling isn't turning up much | 14:27 |
| inz | did you install the cputransp devkit? | 14:30 |
| sussman | wha??? | 14:32 |
| sussman | what's that? | 14:32 |
| sussman | I installed the debian-devkit only | 14:32 |
| sussman | I've seen no reference to cputranssp devkit anywhere | 14:33 |
| sussman | clue me in | 14:33 |
| inz | cputransp devkit is the devkit that allows you to use cpu transparency ;) | 14:33 |
| sussman | I see it in 'apt-cache search scratchbox' now | 14:33 |
| sussman | thx | 14:33 |
| sussman | why the @#$(* doesn't the installation page list it? | 14:34 |
| sussman | and then it just goes on to assume it's already installed | 14:34 |
| inz | sussman, the docs are most likely from 0.9x era, whence (IIRC) cputransp was part of core | 14:35 |
| sussman | ok, I'm still not getting a transparency option listed | 14:37 |
| sussman | grr | 14:37 |
| sussman | I have scratchbox-core, -libs, -devkit-debian, -devkit-cputransp, and -toolchain-arm-gcc installed | 14:38 |
| sussman | but sb-conf still shows no transparency optoin. | 14:38 |
| inz | and you selected the cputransp devkit when selecting devkits? | 14:39 |
| sussman | aha! | 14:39 |
| sussman | thanks | 14:40 |
| sussman | I now see 5 different qemu-arm options | 14:40 |
| sussman | varying from 0.7 to 0.8 | 14:40 |
| sussman | also 'qemu-armb' | 14:40 |
| sussman | the irony here is that my entire ubuntu system, under which this arm emulation is running, is itself a Parallels emulation. :-) | 14:43 |
| sussman | sweet. | 14:46 |
| sussman | apr is now building | 14:46 |
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| Pupnik | ah devlist now has updated status of the maemo.org sites... good work and thanks to Ferenc for the work | 15:02 |
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| maddler | hello! | 17:55 |
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| danilo | Olá everybody. Somebody can confirm me this information? The Link to download MaemoSDK is offline? | 18:34 |
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| sp3000 | danilo: specifics | 18:41 |
| sp3000 | stuff got moved around | 18:41 |
| sp3000 | of course things should redirect | 18:41 |
| danilo | where i can found it? | 18:42 |
| sp3000 | what exactly and where are you trying, rather | 18:42 |
| danilo | I want to download maemo SDK on my Ubuntun desktop.... I was trying to open this link: http://maemo.org/downloads/download-sdk.html, | 18:43 |
| sp3000 | offhand I'd say wait til tuesday then file bug in https://garage.maemo.org/projects/maemo2midgard/ if broken links persist | 18:43 |
| danilo | From http://maemo.org/downloads/releases.html | 18:43 |
| sp3000 | danilo: http://maemo.org/development/sdks/maemo-3-x--bora-.html is one | 18:43 |
| danilo | thanks! | 18:43 |
| sp3000 | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ | 18:43 |
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| maddler | damn... h3g is blocking port 25! | 19:17 |
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| maddler | hmmm... am I the only one with planet.maemo.org messed up layout? | 20:09 |
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| maddler | hi sbaturzio | 20:12 |
| sbaturzio | maddler: ciao | 20:12 |
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| MDK | maddler: works for me | 20:19 |
| MDK | 1024x768, firefox | 20:20 |
| MDK | though, the main maemo page is not perfect for me | 20:20 |
| MDK | oh | 20:21 |
| MDK | actually, it just got better | 20:21 |
| MDK | ugh | 20:22 |
| MDK | now planet is messed up | 20:22 |
| MDK | very strange | 20:22 |
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| jku | front page rendering seems to change randomly -- the lower "link bar" is sometimes split on two lines | 20:24 |
| jku | on n800 it sometimes gets split on 3-4 lines (even if there's space) | 20:24 |
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| maddler | MDK: same... | 20:29 |
| maddler | sounds like some1 is playing with CSSs... | 20:29 |
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| bedboi | can anyone access to http://maemo.org/development/'s side bar? | 20:33 |
| bedboi | i'm using firefox 2.0.0.3 and links in sidebar do not work | 20:33 |
| maddler | working here... 2.0.0.3 too... | 20:37 |
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| bedboi | hmm | 20:38 |
| bedboi | http://maemo.org/development/examples/ | 20:39 |
| jku | they are only clickable in the far right side... | 20:40 |
| jku | e.g. "ts" on ""Acknowledgements" | 20:40 |
| bedboi | ah | 20:41 |
| bedboi | cool | 20:41 |
| jku | depends on page width somehow | 20:41 |
| bedboi | they are not clickable at all for me | 20:41 |
| jku | the same for me now, when I resized the page a little... | 20:41 |
| jku | are you filing a bug? | 20:42 |
| bedboi | yep if you have big characters it doesn't work | 20:42 |
| bedboi | i've decreased the font size and it works | 20:42 |
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| jku | true | 20:43 |
| bedboi | aslo the background of the page looks strange | 20:43 |
| bedboi | a/aslo/also | 20:43 |
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| jku | the links seem to work now... Either someone is at work on a sat night or the behaviour is inconsistent | 21:01 |
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| jku | heh, Ferenc in a mailing list just a while ago: "This navigation in the right column is creating more trouble than expected..." | 21:07 |
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| nostalg1c | this is probably a FAQ, but i couldn't find it on the FAQ/Wiki at maemo.org :-) is there any way to facilitate browsing the filesystem on the N770? right now, i can only browse my home dir and some virtual dirs | 21:26 |
| jlbrd | if you want to browse your filesystem, in your browser, enter the address «file:///» | 21:31 |
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| nostalg1c | i was thinking more along the lines of the common file open/save dialogs etc | 21:31 |
| jlbrd | but this way allow only the viewing and not any modification | 21:32 |
| Pio | nostalg1c, in a terminal, run "ln -s / ~/MyDocs/Root | 21:32 |
| nostalg1c | oh, just doing a symlink works? | 21:32 |
| Pio | then you'll see a Root folder in the save/open dialogs which will bring you to the fs root | 21:32 |
| Pio | yup | 21:32 |
| nostalg1c | thanks a bunch | 21:33 |
| Pio | np.. someone else in here told me about it, just passing it on :) | 21:33 |
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| nostalg1c | are stuff like the file manager etc from n770 also open sourced? | 21:44 |
| jku | no | 21:44 |
| jku | they aren't virtual dirs btw, they're just hidden under ~/MyDocs/ | 21:45 |
| jku | like ~/MyDocs/.documents | 21:45 |
| nostalg1c | oh | 21:45 |
| nostalg1c | are they predefined? or can i add some | 21:45 |
| `0660_ | why would anyone need to browse the other directories? | 21:46 |
| jku | why would you want to look under the hood of your car? | 21:46 |
| `0660_ | yeah, it's dirty | 21:47 |
| `0660_ | :) | 21:47 |
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| k-s | guys, how do I get my planet associated with my garage account? | 22:19 |
| k-s | I have both website, garage and planet registered for a long time | 22:19 |
| jku | the only things that have had a login were wiki, bugzilla and garage, AFAIK | 22:24 |
| jku | now garage account should work for everything except bugzilla | 22:25 |
| jku | doesn't for me, but it should... | 22:25 |
| k-s | jku: website had when on test.m.o... I had an account there and it was successufuly migrated | 22:28 |
| jku | sure -- do you have something on that account that needs to be preserved? IOW, can't you just use the garage account? | 22:31 |
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| k-s | jku: I can use my garage account fine... | 23:27 |
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| k-s | jku: I just want to know if I need to do something in order to link my garage account to planet | 23:28 |
| jku | Ok, Now I understand... it's the hackergotchi you want to link to your garage account (I was wondering how a planet could have a account) | 23:32 |
| jku | File a bug on planet I guess... | 23:33 |
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| k-s | jku: no, it's not the hackergotchi | 23:35 |
| k-s | jku: my planet accout shows as "unknown" | 23:35 |
| Bipolar | am i blind, or is there no link to the rss feed on maemo planet? | 23:35 |
| jku | that's what I meant, k-s | 23:36 |
| jku | Bipolar, on the right hand menu -- "Available feeds" | 23:36 |
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| Bipolar | jku: ugg.... it doesn't look like that on opera on my n800 :/ | 23:38 |
| Bipolar | i got it though | 23:38 |
| nostalg1c | is there a decent ftp client for the N770? | 23:39 |
| jku | Pupnik, are you here? | 23:39 |
| jku | I tried exult, but it won't start. should I have a exult.cfg somewhere? | 23:39 |
| jku | It complains "couldn't find exult.flx", but AFAICS I've got it installed just like instructions say... | 23:40 |
| jku | whoops, found it. disregard that. | 23:44 |
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| b0unc3 | uhm... if I have a sw for ITOS06/07, which .install I would have to put in the downloads page ? | 23:48 |
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| qgil | alright, so by accident I created a maemo group in flickr: http://www.flickr.com/groups/373437@N21/ | 23:51 |
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| qgil | "by accident" I mean it :) Yesterday I was playing with flickr groups and today I realized the groups was there | 23:52 |
| qgil | do you think it might be of any use? | 23:52 |
| qgil | jku ask ferenc@maemo.org about your account & planet - in principle he sent an email to all the bloggers aggregated | 23:54 |
| qgil | k-s I guess you were asking the same question | 23:55 |
| k-s | qgil: actually I'm have the problem, jku just prompted to help :-) | 23:55 |
| k-s | qgil: does he need to update and link these together manually | 23:55 |
| k-s | ? | 23:55 |
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| jku | not even much help... | 23:55 |
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| qgil | mmm as far as I know is Ferenc as planet admin who makes the links, you need to write him telling that your garage userid is linked with your feed | 23:57 |
| k-s | ok | 23:57 |
| Tak | amusing - your group didn't come up in a group search for "maemo" | 23:58 |
| qgil | Tak: flickr says " This is a public group." | 23:58 |
| qgil | Tak: perhaps because it's totally empty | 23:59 |
| qgil | virgin | 23:59 |
| Tak | not anymore | 23:59 |
| * Tak deflowered | 23:59 | |
| qgil | why am I always too late? | 23:59 |
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