IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2007-05-04

ferbtw, does anyone use the 770 or the n800 with a screen protector?00:00
feris it useable? I mean, does it loose brightness/sensibility?00:00
fer(my 770 doesn't have one.. and has lots of tiny thin scratches... invisible when the screen is on)00:00
shackanI'm vewwy vewwy careful with the screen00:01
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ferthe n800 uses the same battery as the 770, right?00:05
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Pupnikhah, n800 on ebay "with no simlock!  can be used with any sim card!"00:06
gla55lol :D00:06
ferwell.. it's true... n800 is not sim locked.. :)00:06
gla55but you can't use it with any sim00:07
gla55you can use it without any sim00:07
ferwell.. you could use the sim to touch the screen...00:08
ferand scratch it...00:08
ferbtw, does anyone use the 770 or the n800 with a screen protector?00:09
Pupniki've used pens, pencils, fingernail, lighters on the screen00:09
Pupniknot i00:09
feris it useable? I mean, does it loose brightness/sensibility?00:09
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Tak|worklol - lighters?00:10
Pupnikwhatever's handy00:10
Tak|work"Let me just light up the browser..."00:11
qgilfer ?00:15
qgilah no, soprry00:15
qgilfor a moment I thought you were fernando herrera00:15
ferno... close...00:16
qgil... he is supposed to be in offline vacation, he insisted so much he wouldn be in email / irc00:16
qgilI thought he couldn  just resist and he found a cybersomething  :)00:16
fersomeone else also uses this nick?00:17
ferbetter choose a new one, then...00:17
qgilnot sure what nick he uses normally00:17
qgilcould be ferulo00:17
qgiljust keep yours00:17
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Pupnika pretty successor to the netbook format
gla55another swivel tablet..00:23
gla55not that small either00:23
Pupnikright, wouldn't replace a 770/800 or zaurus00:26
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Pupniki just think the design is nice00:27
sylvandercheerio. is there any way to change default apps for handling diff mime-types?00:27
Tak|workI must be atypical in that I have no desire for a computing device sized in between a desktop and an IT00:27
gla55i like my lappy to be 15"..00:30
gla55any smaller would suck for code00:30
Pupniksylvander: launching from opera?00:31
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sylvanderPupnik: Nods, trying to open a .m3u file from my ampache and the media player just gives me a 'corrupt .m3u' error00:32
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ferhas anyone tried transcoding/streaming video ?00:37
ferwhat settings should I use on mencoder?00:38
Pupniksee, though it may be outdated00:42
Suliswhere can we find
Pupniknew mplayer is playing back anything encoded to 400x240 or lower res00:43
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Pupniki prefer xvid, personally00:46
Pupnikmencoder $inname -o $outname -af volnorm -af channels=1 -oac mp3lame -srate 22050 -lameopts lowpassfreq=10500:mode=3:vbr=0:br=64 -vf-add hqdn3d -ovc xvid -xvidencopts bitrate=436:me_quality=6:vhq=4:lumi_mask:gmc00:47
Pupnikthat's what i generally do for tv00:47
Pupnikadding scale filter if it's larger than 24000:47
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unique311_how do i add an app to the sidebar,,,lets say extras.....and then an attach and icon to it?01:27
unique311_ubuntu makes it so easy to do so..01:27
unique311_link would be helpful...pls01:27
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unique311_no ,mov for mplayer?01:58
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Hyperion2010does anyone know where to download the standard kernel images?02:06
Hyperion2010for the 3.2007.10-7 release?02:07
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Hyperion2010nm, I found it02:10
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Hyperion2010good lord....02:12
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unique311_suitable for THE MAEMO02:43
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unique311_where are the icons stored for the task navigator area?03:32
unique311_thanks alot fella's for the help..03:41
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Pupnik_/usr/share/icons/hicolor has icons05:01
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unique311_i found it a long time ago..05:04
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unique311_thanks though05:04
Pupnik_np - was napping :)05:05
unique311_gonna make a nice little video of basiliskII running on the maemo..05:05
unique311_it rocks..05:05
unique311_mad cause it runs in root mode..and crashes in user05:05
unique311_before it ran in user with no issues..05:05
unique311_i'm thinking its because i chmod it as root05:06
Pupnik_i see there's a new 0.9-1 release05:06
Pupnik_what source did you use?05:06
unique311_gonna mess around with the screen res...05:06
unique311_and then considering i'm on a nice vacation work on my hildonizing..05:06
unique311_i think05:07
unique311_i forgot..05:07
unique311_its on vmware on my desktop05:07
unique311_it was the zaurus source...05:08
unique311_a 1.005:08
unique311_sigserv errors on regular 1.0 src05:08
unique311_zaurus src, i think the dev fixed the sigserv error i was getting...05:09
unique311_Pupnik..just remembered..05:09
unique311_wasn't the zaurus src05:09
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unique311_it was gp2x05:09
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Pupnik_seems like a fair amount of linux stuff is still not arm-safe05:10
Pupnik_so gp2x is a good resource05:11
unique311_compiled that nicely from gp2x src05:12
unique311_and also atrix...05:12
unique311_with the nice moving fire background....05:12
unique311_but controls on that don't work, and i started crying "F" this shit...05:12
unique311_another link for ya05:13
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unique311_CFLAGS =  -O3 -I${prefix}/include/SDL -D_REENTRANT -DGP2X -mcpu=arm920 -mtune=arm920t -msoft-float -ffast-math -fstrict-aliasing -mstructure-size-boundary=32 -fexpensive-optimizations -fweb -frename-registers -fomit-frame-pointer -falign-functions=32 -falign-loops -falign-labels -falign-jumps -finline -finline-functions -fno-builtin05:15
unique311_i didn't change the cflags on it...05:15
unique311_guess you can..05:15
unique311_to optimize for 77005:16
Pupnik_interesting flags05:17
unique311_not 100 percent sure....but i might;ve  used the 0.9 makefile from the zaurus src05:17
unique311_feck i have to back track 2morrow..sad..i don't remember how i compiled this danm thing..and i spent some time on it.05:19
Pupnik_i've lost track of changes lately too05:20
Pupnik_ls -ltr helps see the last changed files in a dir05:20
Pupnik_and i usually make backups and put comments in with my name05:20
Pupnik_so i can grep -ri $myname * and see what i've been doing05:20
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sussmanPupnik_: hey, I disabled the mp3s05:37
sussmanand black gate doesn't crash me after the intor anymore05:37
sussman(on my n800)05:37
sussmanalso, I can type a name now on my bt kb05:37
sussmanthing is, when I hit the menu key and flip back to xterm, I can't figure out how to flip back to the game;  it's not on the list of running apps05:38
Pupnik_right, that's not done yet05:38
Pupnik_you can hit menu key again05:38
Pupnik_that should make it fullscreen again05:39
sussmanuh, menu key just pops up the menu for xterm05:39
Pupnik_when you hit menu key, do you see the game running in the window (non-maximized?)05:39
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Pupnik_or do you see the xterm window05:40
sussmanfrom the game, I hit the home key, which listed only 'home' and 'xterm'.  I chose xterm.05:40
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sussmannow that I'm in xterm,05:40
sussmanhome key shows the same 2 things.  menu key shows only xterm menu items05:40
Pupnikif you hit the home key, the game will disappear and you can't get it back05:40
* sussman kills the game processes05:40
Takmight make it quit on home press until you get it worked out05:41
Pupnikwhat key is home mapped-to?05:42
Pupniki don't seem to have xev on this it200705:42
Pupnikanyway thanks for the report sussman05:43
sussmanok, so menu is the way to pause the game?05:44
Pupniki never ran anything else while testing the game05:44
sussmanman, I was 19 when I played this in '92.05:45
sussmanhow do I save my game?05:45
sussmanthis is exciting for long plane trips.  :-)05:45
Pupnikhit circle-arrow, select load/save from menu05:45
sussmanas good as text adventures05:45
sussmancircle arrow?05:45
Pupnikthe button below the directional pad05:46
Pupnikor esc on keyboard05:46
sussmanso there are no mp3s05:48
sussmanis there any sound at *all*?05:49
sussman(game saved, thanks!)05:49
Pupnikyou should hear sound effects like birds chirping05:49
sussmanman, I gotta read the README to figger out controls, I totally forgot this UI05:49
Pupnikand the mp3s work here05:49
sussmancircle-arrow options says "audio disabled"05:49
Pupniki made a new smaller set of mp3s which load much faster, but they are monophonic05:49
sussmanooh, maybe I can try them?05:49
sussmanand I just re-enabled audio within the game...05:50
sussmanso I don't actually need the bt keyboard to play this, right?05:50
sussmannow that I've typed my name?05:50
Pupnikit does help when saving games, but i insert the current date into the savename05:50
sussmanwhat's the proper game resolutio?05:50
sussmanit sasy 400x240 now, with an x2 scaling05:50
Pupnikyes that's my favorite05:51
sussmancan I increase the res?05:51
Pupnikoriginal game ran at 320x20005:51
sussmanor does that look best?05:51
sussman320x200?  seriously??05:51
sussmanthat's a postage stamp05:51
Pupnikthat was ibm's vga05:51
sussmanvga was 640x480, 320x200 was cga05:52
Pupnik  <- 14 MB05:52
* sussman curls it directly to his n80005:52
Takit's a postage stamp that fills your monitor ;-)05:52
sussmancan I increase fps beyond 5?05:52
sussmanis that safe?05:52
Pupnikthat's the fps that the game runs at internally05:53
Pupnikchoose that to match the fps you see on screen05:53
Pupnikit shouldn't break anything, but it won't make the screen update faster05:53
Pupnikalso sussman, you can try turning off the 2x scaling to see if that gives you much of a speed improvement05:54
Pupniki was surprised to see no difference on the nokia 77005:54
sussmanif I turn off 2x scaling, I should increase res to 800, right?05:55
Pupnikno that res isn't supported05:55
Pupniki'm just curious if the unscaled 400x240 is much faster on the 800 than the scale2x 400x24005:55
Pupniki expect the difference will be bigger on the n80005:55
sussmanlemme try, one sec05:56
sussmanI went back to xterm, which paused the game, and then I did ctrl-z to curl the mp3s05:56
sussmanwhere should I put the new mp3's again?05:58
Pupnikthere is currently no provision for multitasking.  if you need to do something else, quit the game05:58
sussman /media/mmc1/games/...05:58
Pupnikoh put05:58
Takxterm supports tabs, btw05:58
sussmanTak: what?!?05:58
Takxterm supports tabs, btw05:59
sussmanyou guys keep making me happier and happier05:59
Pupnikgames/exult/  and then it creats a 'music' folder05:59
sussmanhow how how05:59
Pupnikclick on xterm menu title, then file->new tab05:59
Takmenu->file->new tab05:59
sussmanor on my bt kb, just function enter06:00
sussmanis there a keystroke to move between tabs?06:00
Pupnikhow did you discover that function+enter shortcut?06:00
Pupnikdon't know06:00
sussmanon my stowaway sierra, pressing 'Fn' seems to be equivalent to hitting the menu key06:01
sussmanand 'create new tab' was the first highlighted menu item.06:01
Takgtk default is ctrl +/-06:01
Takdunno if that works06:02
sussmanPupnik: so there's no way to get back to my game, even though it said it was 'paused'?06:02
Pupnikif you bring up another window, you have to kill the process, afaik06:04
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sussman640x480 looks *awesome* on the n800, with no scaling06:06
sussmanbut it's so tiny, I'll go blind06:06
Pupnik:) yeah06:07
sussman(what is the n800 native resolution?  800 by something?)06:07
Pupniki didn't bother setting up that resolution, though i will just for the showoff factor06:07
sussmanI'm screwed06:07
sussmanit died when I went to 800x60006:07
sussmanand won't restart now either, claming video mode unavailable06:08
sussmanmaybe I can edit the prefs in vi?06:08
Pupnikyeah ~/.exult.cfg06:08
sussmanare there any other unix text editors other than vi?06:08
sussmanbuilt in?06:08
sussmanI really miss my emacs.06:08
Pupnikaround line 6306:08
Pupnikalso the busybox included vi seems buggy here06:09
sussmanwhile I'm in there, I'll now set use_oggs to yes06:10
Pupnikhave to hit ctrl-l a lot to refresh06:10
sussmanhow do I hit ESC to get out of vi's insert mode06:11
sussmanwhen I press FN-Tab to get ESC, the menu for xterm pops up.  :-(06:11
sussmancuz of FN06:11
Takesc button is arrow-circle06:11
Pupniktry the circle-arrow key (esc) on the device06:11
Taksomebody ported zile, btw06:12
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sussmanhm, no audio or music still.06:14
sussmanwhen you just 'quit' the game from the esc-menu, does it auto-save?06:15
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Pupnikunder audio options you should have: audio: enabled  music options: enabled looping: enabled  digital music: enabled  midi driver: disabled  sfx: enabled  speech: enabled06:16
sussmanwhen I go into audio optoins, only a single disabled button shows06:17
sussmani click it06:17
sussmanand everything appears as you say06:17
sussmanI click "OK"06:17
sussmanstill no sound06:17
sussmanI got back into audio options06:17
sussmanthe single 'disabled' button is there again06:17
sussmanas if I hadn't set anything.06:17
Pupnikok i don't know why that is happening06:17
sussmanmaybe a reboot will help06:18
Pupnikperhaps i need to compile it against bora libs, but i have it running on it2007 hacker edition and it seems ok06:18
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sussmanwell, when I first got the game running with your stereo mp3s, I did hear things06:19
sussmanlemme reboot06:19
Pupnikok, also you should see a blue speaker icon next to 'the black gate' in the game selection menu at the beginning06:20
Pupnikif you see a speaker with a slash through it, then exult could not find any audio data files for the game06:20
sussmanyep, the icon was there06:21
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Pupnikdarn it2007 keeps bringing up the thumbpad when i hit enter key in synergy06:31
Pupnikhm no it was on return key06:33
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PupnikCouldn't set 320x240 video mode: No video mode large enough for 800x60006:33
Pupnikthere's a funny sdl error06:33
sussmanso the whole exult engine is all SDL?06:36
sussmanvia... python?06:36
Pupnikno python, using sdl libraries on tablet06:37
Pupnikit's written in c++06:37
Pupnikwell for the most part06:37
sussmanshouldn't I hear music on the 'exult' screen where it shows black gate and the little speaker?06:37
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Pupnikit should play exult.mp306:38
sussmanCouldn't create 8bt scaled surface06:38
Pupnikthat's not a crucial error06:38
sussmanCouldn't open audio:  No available audio device06:38
sussmanthere's our culprit06:38
Pupnikwhat happens if you type in xterm06:39
Pupnik"which gst-launch"06:39
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Pupniki see on it2007 it is called gst-launch-0.1006:39
Pupnikwhereas exult invokes 'gst-launch'06:39
sussmanit's in /usr/bin06:40
sussmanthe audio is clearly working when I set the volume on the home page06:40
sussmanand the FM radio feature works well too06:41
sussmanweird, this didn't happen a week ago when I first tried the game;  I'd hear music, and eventually get a reboot06:42
sussmanever since I edited .exult.cfg to say oggs=no, this is what's been happening.06:42
Pupnikthe mp3s are in /media/mmc1/games/exult/music?06:43
sussmancan I play an mp3 from the commandline?06:44
Pupnikyeah gst-launch file.mp3 !dspmp3sink06:44
Pupnikfunny thing is i just broke it testing the command line06:45
sussmanwhat's the !dspmp3sink bit?06:45
Pupniktells the dsp to handle mp3 decoding/playback06:45
Pupniki want to use it instead of timidity or ogg, to save cpu cycles06:46
Pupnikmaybe i am being dense06:47
sussmanone sec06:47
Pupnikgst-launch filesrc location="file.mp3" !dspmp3sink06:47
Pupnikthere we go, pardon me06:47
sussmanmy bt kb is stowed away06:49
sussmanis there a way to do 'up arrow' with software keyboard?06:49
sussmanto repeat commands?06:49
Pupnikup on the directional pad06:50
Pupnikwell it looks like i managed to break it here too06:50
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sussmanok, that commandline works fine06:51
sussmanno problem playing 29bg.mp306:51
sussmanother ideas about why there's 'no available audio device'?06:52
Pupniki am trying to think of what else we can do to test06:52
Pupnikyes one06:53
Pupnikno that makes no sense06:54
Pupniktry extracting the .exult.cfg from the exult binary .tgz again and copying it over your ~/.exult.cfg06:56
sussmanum, crap, I deleted the binary.tgz06:57
sussmancan you just post me a url to the virgin .exult.cfg?06:58
Pupnik exult defaults to safe mode, if the exult.cfg is corrupted (extra lines or characters)06:58
sussmanmakes sense06:58
Pupnikand with the 770 vi editor, it's easy to corrupt files :)06:58
sussmanan you extract the original exult.cfg for me and post it?06:58
sussmanrather than have me redownload the whole binary tgz06:59
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sussmandang, didn't help, though.07:02
sussmanoh well.07:02
sussmanweird that it *used* to work, and something changed.07:02
Pupniksound effects and voices (the occasional guardian talking to you) should definitely work07:03
Pupnikok your welcome and thanks for testing07:04
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unique311_check it out Pupnik07:47
unique311_well anyone alive..07:47
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Pupniki have a policy of not clicking on things just because people tell me to07:49
Pupnikwhat is it?07:49
Takhm @ mp407:49
unique311_its basiliskII running on n80007:49
Pupnikoh cool i'll check that out07:49
unique311_i should've done avi or mp3...07:50
unique311_but its clear..07:50
unique311_done on my phone again..ppc6700 rocks...07:50
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unique311_limited to the settings i picked..07:52
unique311_anything else and crashes07:53
Pupnikwow it does a 6803007:53
unique311_it does 68040 also..07:53
unique311_but the settings have to be right..07:53
Pupnikthose were like 20-30mhz cpus07:54
unique311_the quadra rom i think is more suitable for different settings..07:54
Pupnikvery cool07:55
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unique311_i should of shown you the terminal output07:56
unique311_quicktime works...07:56
unique311_old version..07:57
unique311_like 2.007:57
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Pupniksome people are going to love that08:06
unique311_there's lots of games for this thing online..08:07
unique311_i found a directory filled with games..08:07
unique311_and considering it mounts the maemo filesystem when it starts..08:08
unique311_hopefully it will be able to mount the disk images on click08:08
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Takbtw, approx how big is the exult data?08:12
Pupniki'm using the high quality samples, about 15MB08:13
Pupnikmusic is another 1408:13
Pupnikstereo music about 3008:13
unique311_no keyboard pops up, when you need to write...thats bad....zaurus has a keyboard....gp2x doesn't, psp doesnt08:14
unique311_wonder how those dev worked around that08:14
Pupnikthe game data not included08:15
Pupnikpart one is 20-22MB08:16
Pupnikforgot about that08:16
Takso 5008:16
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Pupniktesting uqm with the sdl window set to 800x48008:24
Pupnikand game window drawing to 320x240 in upper left of the sdl window08:24
Pupnikat no point is the game visibly drawing outside of its' 320x240 window08:24
Pupnik(with pixel doubling off)08:24
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Pupnikit2007 looks slower - sound sputtering08:29
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Pupnikhmm different libvorbisidec08:37
Pupniknoep that wasn't it08:39
Pupniksilly me, had filtering on08:42
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unique311_k got 800x 60008:45
unique311_had to set it in the setting08:45
Pupnikdoes basilisk run fullscreen?08:46
unique311_it should with src modification08:46
unique311_i got the res at 800x60008:47
unique311_but some of the screen was missing..08:47
unique311_dropped it down to 640x48008:47
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virekhello. so the 770 will support sdhc with a kernel patch?08:52
Pupnikthere is mmc > 2GB?08:53
* Pupnik tries setting sdl vid mode to 640x480, like fceu08:55
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unique311_with the sidebar and the top bar active, what would you say is the exact window measurements?09:07
Pupniki don't know09:07
unique311_i can do 640x480 from the startup settings now..09:08
unique311_thats because i changed the size from the control panel to 640x48009:09
Pupnikthe height in windowed mode is less than 48009:09
unique311_figure if i up the size to 800x600 in the control panel i can do the exact size from the settings menu on startup..09:09
unique311_in window mode whats the length..09:10
unique311_thats the magic number09:10
unique311_gonna try 700 and decrease09:10
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unique311_so it won't do odd numbers09:17
unique311_only does the defaults..09:17
unique311_800x600 works...09:17
unique311_in fullscreen mode that will rock09:17
Pupnikcan you prevent it from using the bottom of the screen?09:18
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unique311_not sure what you mean?09:21
Pupnikthe tablet has a resolution of 800x480, not 800x60009:22
unique311_but 480 only designated in the os settings as 640x480...then followed by 800x600 and so on and  so on09:23
unique311_let me see if i can set that in the startup settings09:23
Pupnikthe mac os might not handle nonstandard resolutions, not sure09:24
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unique311_it doesn't09:25
unique311_unless i modify the graphics kext...09:25
unique311_but thats another issue..09:25
unique311_no keyboard..09:25
unique311_sound works09:26
unique311_on a good note09:26
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unique311_internet i guess also..09:26
unique311_i need to find safari09:26
unique311_and test that out09:26
Pupnikdo you have a bluetooth keyboard or synergy installed?09:26
unique311_i didn't think of that09:26
unique311_picking one up 2morrow09:27
unique311_from jnr09:27
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unique311_when i give a non statndard res. it boots in black n white which i think might be safemode..09:28
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Pupniki doubt anything but 640x480 will work09:31
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Pupnikwell wait, there was another res they used i think09:32
Pupnikon the original mac09:32
unique311_which came is newer, quadra or performa.09:34
unique311_i have a quadra 650 rom.....09:34
unique311_maybe i can try that and see if i get better results..09:34
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JaffaMorning, all10:32
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Guardianhmm12:44 seems to be damn slow12:44
Guardiando you experience the same thing ?12:45
kulvethey are upgrading it, aren't they?12:45
Guardianseems so12:45
Guardianbut i thought it should not impact the repositories, for installing the rootstraps etc12:46
kulve"This switch will affect all services"12:47
Guardiandid not see this statement12:53
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konttori_cool. the new maemo site looks sweet.13:41
tigertoh nice13:45
kulvedoh, I saw the old page and was wondering what are you talking about..13:47
kulvereload helped..13:47
dpb_they missed the 3.1 announcement from the new site..13:47
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inzthe headers on the front page should be links14:00
inzand should work!14:00
inzOr if the headers aren't going to be links, the a "[ More... ]" -link should be added to the planet maemo too14:01
lardmanhmm, no link to plant maemo anymore14:01
lardmanplant? planet even14:01
X-Fade_inz: They are already so in svn. Just needs updating ;)14:01
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inzX-Fade, great14:02
X-Fadeinz: It bugged me too. So I went in to fix it and found out that somebody else already did that :)14:02
konttori_I agree that planet maemo header should be a link to planet.14:03
konttori_also, the default speech icon might be more maemo themed  (e.g. change the colors a bit)14:04
konttori_but overall, great improvement. Of course there will be minor polishing points, there always is.14:05
X-Fadekonttori_: Everybody without hackergotchi looks like tigert ;)14:05
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unique311_hello all14:19
X-FadeHmmm CIA reporting died Apr 24?14:20
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inzX-Fade, at least #maemo-commits has been awfully quiet for a long time14:20
inzX-Fade, seems they didn't make it to DST ;)14:23
X-Fadeinz: Yeah, I guess something broke.14:27
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Guardianany reason why when using the sdk install script, /etc/resolv.conf only contains "nameserver"14:45
Guardianas far as i remember, it used to work14:45
Guardiani'm installing the sdk on another computer14:46
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herz1is anyone using the SU-8W bluetooth keyboard with his n800?14:49
|tbb|ich leider nicht :/ haette ich aber gerne14:55
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florianherz1: yes15:01
herz1is it working well?15:01
florianherz1: yes, no trouble so far15:01
herz1I'm thinking about getting a wifi-repeater and the su-8w to enjoy open air jabbering :-)15:02
florianyep, that's nice...15:02
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`0660there's something missing from that article :)17:20
Tak|workhah, "intel's idea"17:25
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|tbb|is there a port of irssi available for bora17:40
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jmspeexI've got a discount code for the N800, but when I enter it, I get "Invalid discount coupon". Any idea why and how to fix that?17:53
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zeenixjmspeex: i think that is something the customer support people can help you with:
jmspeexzeenix: I'm actually using the Canadian store17:57
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zeenixjmspeex: contact them then? :)17:59
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Guardianhow to report incorrect information on ???18:38
Guardianthe apt sources are wrong18:38
Guardianfor maemo 3.0 , it's not "3.0 free non-free" but "maemo3.0 free non-free"18:38
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unique311_crazy chick...19:02
unique311_havent heard from her forever.....she IM's me and wants to IM do me....wtf19:03
unique311_sorry way off topic19:03
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AndrewGearharthey folks... I'm trying to pair my n800 with a Stowaway foldable keyboard via bluetooth... and not having much success... anybody have any pointers?19:41
roopewhere does it fail?19:41
AndrewGearhartat the point that it is asking for the passcode...19:42
roopeyou type it in, and what does it then say?19:42
AndrewGearhartoh... wait... I figured it out... I was setting it as a trusted device...19:43
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sp3000 didn't redirect or link me to
* sp3000 hopes not breaking the web is a requirement, and that state is just temporary19:59
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unique311_what happened to the garage or planet20:08
unique311_especially the garage20:08
unique311_found it20:08
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tkoMDK: maybe we should try that some time ?-)20:14
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tigerttko: maybe this?
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tkounfortunately my meetings generally include people I like21:03
tkobut otherwise... :)21:03
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matsavhalevis there a way to get X applications to open in Hildon? I have gotten some debian arm programs that will run but they cant find the DISPLAY of hildon21:11
tkoexport DISPLAY=:0.021:12
matsavhalevthx will try that21:12
tkoonly needed if you run over ssh or something, starting apps from menus or terminal already have that21:12
matsavhalevtrying to run applications from a chroot21:13
matsavhalevI still get Can't open display :0.021:14
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kpelhi all21:30
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MDKtko: unfortunately, I'm afraid that's a common practice21:32
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Tak|workdo you need to do `xhost +` on the device?21:36
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MDKTak|work: on you main machine, as root21:40
MDKdepends on your policies of course21:40
MDKbut yes, if you run xephyr from sbox you might need to do this21:40
Tak|workoh, it's xephyr21:40
Tak|workyeah, I think I had to do that21:41
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matsavhalevtak: what do i need to install to get the xhost executable22:08
matsavhalevon the device22:08
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kakosSo, I am running the SDHC patch and I got a SD card partitioned to have a FAT32 partition.  How do I format it as FAT32?23:16
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matsavhalevmkfs.vfat /dev/devicename23:19
matsavhalevi think23:19
kakosThat only does a FAT 16, which gives it an upper limit on size of 2GB23:20
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b0unc3kakos: format it on your pc23:22
matsavhalevi split mine 2gb/2gb i guess that explains why it worked23:24
Tak|workmatsavhalev: you're having the X error on the device itself?23:25
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