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| Pupnik | has anyone tried the patch for xomap which supposedly fixes some Xsp damage issues? | 00:26 |
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| Pupnik | https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=531&group_id=164&atid=683 | 00:27 |
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| Pupnik | Daniel Stone apparently wants Xsp 'killed' and i have to assume he's got good reasons for that. Still it would be a great help for games and emus if pixel-doubling could be fixed to work reliably | 00:28 |
| Tak|work | I don't really care if xsp gets killed, as long as there remains some simple way to get hw-accelerated scaling without being locked into e.g. Xv | 00:29 |
| Pupnik | Looking at alternatives to get faster screen updates. It might be possible to use ssvb 's direct frame buffer writing, overlaying some SDL functions (put_rect / page flip?) | 00:29 |
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| Pupnik | Tak|work: yeah... Does the pixel doubling mean the dsp is unavailable for mp3 sink accelerated playback? | 00:30 |
| Tak|work | I don't think so | 00:31 |
| Pupnik | i suppose i could test this :) | 00:31 |
| Tak|work | I tried a dsppcmsink-based audio driver for a while | 00:31 |
| Tak|work | (which didn't seem to conflict) | 00:31 |
| Pupnik | ok | 00:31 |
| ssvb | Pupnik: maybe Daniel Stone can just implement support for setting (emulating) low resolutions in xserver? this should cover most of current Xsp uses and be more compatible with existing applications | 00:32 |
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| Tak|work | would work for me | 00:33 |
| ssvb | Pupnik: pixel doubling (and arbitrary upscaling on N800) is unrelated to DSP at all, it is done by Epson graphics chip | 00:34 |
| ssvb | Tak|work: did you try working directly with DSP tasks for audio output? | 00:36 |
| Tak|work | no, not yet | 00:36 |
| ssvb | Tak|work: are you going to try? | 00:36 |
| Tak|work | I'd like to create a dsp task for the sample generation | 00:36 |
| Tak|work | assuming I get a coincidental spike of time and ambition, yes | 00:37 |
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| ssvb | Tak|work: deciphering and documenting gstreamer dsp sinks code might be the first step to use Nokia provided DSP tasks bypassing gstreamer layer | 00:39 |
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| * Tak|work nods | 00:40 | |
| Pupnik | you have dsp programming documentation? | 00:40 |
| ssvb | Tak|work: it may work more reliable, at least theoretically | 00:40 |
| Tak|work | yeah, although prone to breakage when nokia shuffles things around with new releases | 00:42 |
| ssvb | Pupnik: here is some report about using dsp on 770 with some simple examples: http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-January/002607.html | 00:42 |
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| ssvb | Pupnik: there are lots of TI docs about C55x DSP | 00:42 |
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| Tak|work | we still don't have source to nokia-provided tasks, do we? | 00:44 |
| ssvb | Tak|work: yes, the first thing to verify is if DSP tasks API is the same on 770 and N800 | 00:44 |
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| Pupnik | ok not that i will be dsp programming any time soon though :) | 00:44 |
| ssvb | Tak|work: I think we may forget any hope about ever seeing these sources | 00:45 |
| * Tak|work nods | 00:45 | |
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| Muzero | hi to all | 01:09 |
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| * bill20r3 waits patiently for usb-host drivers. | 01:14 | |
| Muzero | someone have tried a jvm on nokia 770? | 01:16 |
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| Pupnik | ok easiest way will be to do an execlp() to launch external mp3 dsp playback | 01:56 |
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| Pupnik | but can i use gst-tools to detect whether i am currently playing? :) | 01:59 |
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| Pupnik | i could use ps aux |grep gst-launch |grep -v grep | 02:05 |
| Pupnik | if that's nonzero, then a song is playing :) | 02:17 |
| Pupnik | warning: cannot pass objects of non-POD type `struct std::string' through | 02:21 |
| Pupnik | hrmf | 02:21 |
| Pupnik | ahh need to cast ogg_name to a 'const char'? | 02:22 |
| inz | std::string::c_str() should be what you want | 02:23 |
| Pupnik | const char *name is what forked player uses | 02:24 |
| Pupnik | can i just do const char *oname; | 02:25 |
| Pupnik | and oname = ogg_name ? | 02:25 |
| Pupnik | if ogg_name is type "string"? | 02:25 |
| sp3000 | hmm | 02:28 |
| sp3000 | <maemo-developers@maemo.org>: service unavailable. Command output: Message content rejected | 02:28 |
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| sp3000 | I think postfix just dissed me | 02:28 |
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| Pupnik | heh i need to find a method of C++ string that returns a pointer to a character array | 02:29 |
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| sp3000 | c_str | 02:32 |
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| Pupnik | so mychararray = mycstring.c_str ? | 02:33 |
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| Pupnik | ahh just needed () | 02:37 |
| inz | isn't it what I said? | 02:39 |
| inz | ;) | 02:39 |
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| Pupnik | spawning a gst-launch process doesn't seem like such a terrible idea for music playback | 02:49 |
| Pupnik | thanks for the help inz and sp3000 | 02:49 |
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| Pupnik | grh gst-launch could use a repeat flag eh? | 03:30 |
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| unique311 | source for appleII emu...i need | 04:27 |
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| Pupnik | can i test if gst-launch is playing, without resorting to a ps |grep? | 04:36 |
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| Pupnik | ah i need to execlp instead of using system() | 05:56 |
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| Pupnik | exult anybody want to test exult? | 07:51 |
| Pupnik | pupnik.de/Ultima7_music_stereo_mp3 <- music files | 07:51 |
| Pupnik | http://pupnik.de/exult770.html <- exult binary and data files | 07:52 |
| Pupnik | ultima 7 game data required | 07:52 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:08 |
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| keesj | bugger my touchscreen is loosing sentitivity again | 11:24 |
| zuh | That seems to be a common problem, I have parts of my screen less sensitive than others and kulve has the whole screen going all funky. I wonder if this is a calibration problem or just simply a hw being crappy... | 11:35 |
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| kulve | I would guess the latter | 11:35 |
| kulve | reflashing or recalibrating didn't help at all | 11:35 |
| keesj | zuh I had the same problem on the 770 at the place where you click the most | 11:37 |
| keesj | that is at the icon to open the main menu | 11:37 |
| keesj | it started like that and after the whole vertial line stopped working :( | 11:37 |
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| polpak | does anyone know where I can find documentation on building gstreamer plugins so I can actually play videos on the n800 (in my app) ? | 11:45 |
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| polpak | so far as I can tell, there aren't any formats that are supported out of the box which is highly frustrating | 11:46 |
| kulve | apt-get install gstreamer0.10-tools && gst-inspect | less | 11:48 |
| polpak | kulve: yes.. I did that | 11:48 |
| kulve | so you see there are video decoders on the device | 11:49 |
| polpak | kulve: I might if I was using the device... | 11:50 |
| polpak | kulve: I'm using the sdk | 11:50 |
| polpak | kulve: do they not put the decoders in the sdk? | 11:51 |
| polpak | kulve: cause that makes it a bit challenging to write applications that do video ;p | 11:51 |
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| kulve | why? compile in the sdk, run on the device.. | 11:53 |
| kulve | and yeah, those closed source codecs are not in the sdk | 11:53 |
| polpak | ok | 11:54 |
| kulve | generally I find running stuff in the cross compilation env (SB) too compilated and problematic and don't anymore even try it.. | 11:54 |
| kulve | complicated | 11:55 |
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| polpak | kulve: what's the easiest way to transfer files to the device? | 11:55 |
| kulve | scp | 11:55 |
| kulve | (imo) | 11:56 |
| polpak | kulve: what's the username | 11:56 |
| kulve | root | 11:56 |
| kulve | (because the user 'user' doesn't have a passwd) | 11:56 |
| polpak | kulve: presumably there's not a default password? | 11:56 |
| kulve | 'rootme' of course :) | 11:56 |
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| kulve | so don't leave your ssh running without changing the passwd while roaming on public wlans.. | 11:57 |
| polpak | kulve: indeed | 11:57 |
| polpak | kulve: thanks much. You've been most informative | 11:57 |
| kulve | np :) | 11:58 |
| * polpak has to go get the damned device back from his coworker now | 11:58 | |
| polpak | ;p | 11:58 |
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| `0660 | heh, i'm in a uni lecture where we have a guest lecturer who at least worked in nokia doing stuff for maemo :) | 12:27 |
| `0660 | or maybe he was an external contractor there... anyway should be interesting lecture :) | 12:28 |
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| inz | `0660, which row you in?-) | 12:38 |
| `0660 | left side, no hair :) | 12:39 |
| inz | I can see you... ;) | 12:39 |
| inz | Last row, on the right ;) | 12:39 |
| `0660 | scary :) | 12:40 |
| inz | `0660, *phew*, I'm not the oldest student on this lecture (course?) | 13:04 |
| gla55 | hehe | 13:05 |
| keesj | :p | 13:06 |
| inz | Well, there might be someone even older, but 0660 is at least 4 days older than me! | 13:07 |
| `0660 | hah, now i feel old even though i'm just 24 :) | 13:07 |
| `0660 | :p | 13:08 |
| `0660 | heh, he's talking about how to take advantage of oss when doing closed source :) | 13:10 |
| c0ffee | strangle him! | 13:11 |
| gla55 | there must be someone older there | 13:11 |
| osfameron | nothing wrong with taking advantage of OSS in closed source projects | 13:13 |
| keesj | just avoid gpl | 13:17 |
| `0660 | it's just that he seemed to take it for granted that we would always develop closed source | 13:17 |
| inz | 0660, did you close your ears on the part where he told the motivation for keeping parts closed? | 13:18 |
| `0660 | though | 13:18 |
| `0660 | i might have missed something while focusing in irc :) | 13:18 |
| inz | =) | 13:18 |
| `0660 | i saw that part | 13:18 |
| osfameron | you can use gpl in server side or web applications no problem | 13:19 |
| inz | *graah* I'm almost certain I saw dbus 0.61 packaged for dapper somewhere... | 13:20 |
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| inz | But now I can't find it anywhere... | 13:20 |
| inz | I wouldn't like to run the sw inside scratchbox (maemo has 0.61 which has fixed glib bindings) | 13:21 |
| inz | (the problem with 0.60 is with aa{sv} signature for a parameter | 13:22 |
| inz | +) | 13:22 |
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| Andy80 | Hi | 15:36 |
| konttori | hi | 15:36 |
| konttori | seems to be radio silence here today. | 15:36 |
| konttori | nobody talking anything | 15:36 |
| Andy80 | Eheh | 15:37 |
| Andy80 | I'm from my 770 :) | 15:37 |
| Andy80 | I've a little question: how can I help you with google soc? | 15:38 |
| * pahartik at park with Nokia 770 | 15:38 | |
| konttori | I didn't understand what you were asking | 15:39 |
| konttori | can you rephrase? | 15:39 |
| Andy80 | pahartik, lucky you, to have wifi connection at park :) | 15:39 |
| Andy80 | konttori, me? | 15:40 |
| dpb_ | who says it's wifi? | 15:40 |
| Andy80 | right dpb | 15:41 |
| pahartik | Andy80: I do not... I use WCDMA/GPRS over Bluetooth everywhere | 15:41 |
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| pahartik | Andy80: Except at my cave, where I have Bluetooth access point | 15:43 |
| Andy80 | pahartik, ah cool anyway | 15:44 |
| pahartik | Andy80: I am very much tied up to mobility | 15:45 |
| Andy80 | Eheh | 15:46 |
| Andy80 | I'll be back later...see ya! | 15:46 |
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| Pupnik_ | why do people need google to declare a 'summer of code' to code something? | 16:42 |
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| anthm | If they did it all 4 seasons it may end up too well designed to earn the trendy "beta" status =D | 16:44 |
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| dragorn | I'd guess 2 reasons - college students and HS students (to be generous) have work during the rest of the year, and people suck at self-motivation | 16:47 |
| mgedmin | I'm pure genius at sucking at self-motivation... :( | 16:49 |
| derf | Pupnik: Also, they get paid. | 17:06 |
| derf | It's amazing what students will do for even the smallest amounts of money. | 17:07 |
| Pupnik | ./exult: relocation error: ./exult: symbol powf, version GLIBCXX_3.4 not defined in file libstdc++.so.6 with link time reference | 17:08 |
| Pupnik | does anyone know why libstdc++.so.6 on the nokia is 3x smaller than the one in scratchbox? | 17:09 |
| * Pupnik has to try compiling against the native libstdc++.so.6.3, or find what library in the source is calling powf | 17:10 | |
| Pupnik | yeah derf, i suppose getting paid a couple hundred bucks to write something is much more exciting than getting paid to make burgers | 17:11 |
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| dragorn | Pupnik: the easiest reason might be that the one in SB contains debug info | 17:17 |
| dragorn | Pupnik: run file on it, see if it says "not stripped" | 17:17 |
| Pupnik | yeah notstripped | 17:17 |
| dragorn | that'd be why | 17:18 |
| Pupnik | i found the code calling the powf though, so pulling it out will at least solve that | 17:18 |
| dragorn | it's for debugging in sb | 17:18 |
| Pupnik | so i used an inappropriate compile/link option? | 17:18 |
| Pupnik | the executeable gets stripped | 17:18 |
| dragorn | powf is probably in libm | 17:19 |
| dragorn | stripping applies to objects, so a dynlink to a stripped/not stripped object ought to be interchangeable | 17:19 |
| Pupnik | that's what i thought. the powf function should still be in the stripped libstdc++ | 17:20 |
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| lardman | Any Python programmers here? What book(s) would you recommend for reference (coming from C/MATLAB/FORTRAN/C++ background)? | 17:24 |
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| dragorn | the oreilly learning python book is pretty good | 17:25 |
| lardman | and also, does anyone know whether there's a Python PrettyPrinter module available (for equations), or a rendering module for MathML or OpenMath? | 17:25 |
| lardman | Programming Python looks like it might be more advanced (=good) | 17:28 |
| JussiP | Dive into Python is quite nice and also free. | 17:32 |
| lardman | I've just downloaded that to take a look - I could do with a paper book though, I'm not fond of reading on the screen (bring on e-paper!) | 17:34 |
| lardman | Looks like it should give me the basics, thanks | 17:35 |
| lardman | Lots of internet stuff in there; I'm more interested in GUI stuff (to display the maths studd) | 17:35 |
| lardman | s/studd/stuff | 17:35 |
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| Pupnik | woot -O3 worked well for exult! | 17:41 |
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| Pupnik | anybody up for some playtesting? | 17:54 |
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| lardman | http://sourceforge.net/projects/pymathml/ cool :) | 18:05 |
| lardman | though dead from the looks of it | 18:06 |
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| k-s[WORK] | lardman: you may look at scipy, numeric and other related projects | 18:20 |
| k-s[WORK] | lardman: http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/ | 18:20 |
| k-s[WORK] | lardman: I also find pyx useful http://pyx.sourceforge.net/ | 18:21 |
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| lardman | k-s[WORK]: Thanks, matplotlib looks good for the graphing side. I've already hacked this code (http://toykeeper.net/programs/pyrpn/) to produce a frontend for yacas, so I don't need much by way of mathematics programming in python atm | 18:44 |
| lardman | though I will do when I add other functions, graphing, etc. | 18:44 |
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| k-s[WORK] | ok | 18:44 |
| lardman | What I do want is to prettyprint the equations that go in and out | 18:45 |
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| Pupnik | Execution ended after 127221649000 ns | 18:52 |
| Pupnik | timer resolution overkill | 18:52 |
| lardman | what's that timing? | 18:53 |
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| Pupnik | gstreamer mp3 playback | 18:57 |
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| gpd | I am currently without a wireless network at home - how can I get my N800 to have access to the net via the USB cable to my laptop? | 19:34 |
| gpd | If that is tricky - I just found a USB wireless card that I suppose I could use to setup an ad hoc network to the N800 | 19:37 |
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| zuh | It's nontrivial, but there is few howtos on usb networking: http://test.maemo.org/community/wiki/howto/ (under "Networking") | 19:38 |
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| gpd | thanks zuh - as you say, a little complex for right now - I guess I'll wait for my DSL router to arrive ;) | 20:03 |
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| Pupnik | i wonder when it will be possible to make a n770/800 tablet for around 250 dollars | 20:24 |
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| Pupnik | 400 usd is great, but at lower price points you could see sales explode | 20:25 |
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| Pupnik | heh, playing aklabeth on the 770 now | 20:43 |
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| Disconnect | fyi i got 2 of the 4gig non-spec sd cards for my n800. (currently on the wootoff) they work great. | 20:48 |
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| soldstatic | I LOVE MY INTERNET TABLET | 20:56 |
| soldstatic | WOOT! | 20:56 |
| Sulis | hehe | 20:56 |
| Sulis | i've just got a bluetooth keyboard for mine | 20:57 |
| soldstatic | ooo i would like that | 20:58 |
| soldstatic | but i dont have the cash | 20:58 |
| soldstatic | I'm going overseas in a few weeks, I really want to get a BT GPS receiver | 20:58 |
| soldstatic | but again, no cash | 20:58 |
| Sulis | yeah, i thought about getting one of those | 20:59 |
| soldstatic | Do you have 800 or 770? | 21:00 |
| Sulis | 800 | 21:00 |
| soldstatic | oo fancy pants arent ya | 21:01 |
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| soldstatic | little webcam and all | 21:01 |
| Sulis | had it for a few weeks, but realised that typing anything long with the stylus was a bit painful | 21:01 |
| soldstatic | That it is | 21:01 |
| soldstatic | I set up ssh on mine so I could do most everything from my laptop | 21:02 |
| Sulis | lol, i don't think the little webcam is worth very much to me | 21:02 |
| soldstatic | bigger screen and keyboard, easier for maintanence | 21:02 |
| soldstatic | what do you use yours for? | 21:02 |
| Sulis | just browsing the web and chatting really | 21:03 |
| Sulis | i'll see how well it can function as my music player if i get a large memory card... | 21:03 |
| mgedmin | it functions adequately | 21:03 |
| mgedmin | the media player is a bit silly (press "next" twice very fast, and it'll play one song while showing a different song name) | 21:04 |
| soldstatic | I use for media player all the time | 21:04 |
| soldstatic | Canola is a great app for media playing | 21:04 |
| soldstatic | great for in the car or just regular | 21:04 |
| mgedmin | the 1.5-second lag where it continues playing after you press "stop" is also a bit annoying | 21:04 |
| soldstatic | I have videos and music and of course lots of internet radio stations | 21:04 |
| mgedmin | I used Canola (and liked it a lot), but then it went schizophrenic on me | 21:05 |
| soldstatic | ha that sucks | 21:05 |
| Sulis | yeah, canola is good, but it's not indexing my music properly atm | 21:05 |
| mgedmin | (random play started playing the same track over and over again, things like that) | 21:05 |
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| soldstatic | Ah wierd | 21:05 |
| mgedmin | I suspect that's because Canola uses the same media player engine as the media player | 21:05 |
| mgedmin | and I tried to use both at the same time, confusing both horribly | 21:06 |
| soldstatic | yes | 21:06 |
| mgedmin | (it's not very smart to keep local state when you're controlling a daemon that can also be controlled by other apps) | 21:06 |
| mgedmin | anyway, e-books is the killer feature of the n800 for me | 21:06 |
| Sulis | that's a good thing about it too, but everytime i update fbreader my library gets wiped, irritating | 21:08 |
| soldstatic | yea | 21:09 |
| soldstatic | I read more in the last couple months than I have in the last couple years | 21:09 |
| mgedmin | Sulis: that's interesting, have you brought that to the attention of fbreader's developers? | 21:10 |
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| * Pupnik plays a game written in 1981 on the n770 :P | 21:18 | |
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| Sulis | haha, oops | 21:19 |
| Sulis | mgedmin, no i haven't reported it to the developers, tbh i thought that it would be a known issue | 21:19 |
| mgedmin | I've upgraded fbreader many times, but I don't think I ever lost my library | 21:20 |
| mgedmin | actually, I did when I moved all the books into a different directory :) | 21:20 |
| mgedmin | but that's not fbreader's fault | 21:20 |
| Sulis | lol, no | 21:22 |
| Sulis | i'm gonna have to sort out the shortcuts for this keyboard...all the defaults use the F keys, and this doesn't have any | 21:24 |
| Sulis | when was the last firmware update? | 21:29 |
| Sulis | and would the sdhc firmware include the nokia updates? | 21:32 |
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| k-s[WORK] | Sulis: what it's not indexing properly? | 21:40 |
| k-s[WORK] | mgedmin: I already told you that we do use the same engine and that's the problem reason | 21:41 |
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| polpak | How do you ssh into the n800? | 21:42 |
| polpak | it's apparently running an ssh daemon | 21:42 |
| polpak | but I can't figure out what user/pass to use | 21:42 |
| `0660 | root/rootme | 21:44 |
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| Sulis | k-s[WORK], it's not indexing my mp3s | 21:50 |
| polpak | `0660: yeah, I tried that. It doesn't seem to work. Do I need to change some setting to allow root to login? | 21:50 |
| Sulis | polpak, you don't need to change anything | 21:50 |
| mgedmin | polpak: which ssh server have you installed -- openssh or dropbear? | 21:51 |
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| polpak | looks like dropbear | 21:53 |
| Sulis | i've got the same, and i just ssh right into root, don't need to change anything | 21:53 |
| sp3000 | maybe someone already logged in and changed it :) | 21:53 |
| polpak | egh | 21:53 |
| polpak | probably | 21:53 |
| polpak | it's a "work" device | 21:54 |
| polpak | I'm supposed to write an app for it | 21:54 |
| polpak | and someone apparently already messed it up | 21:54 |
| polpak | is there a way to flash it? | 21:54 |
| Sulis | what app are you going to write for it? | 21:54 |
| polpak | Sulis: that'd be telling ;p | 21:54 |
| Sulis | yep, tell tell tell! | 21:55 |
| Sulis | :P | 21:55 |
| * polpak prefers to keep the lawyers at bay | 21:55 | |
| mgedmin | sure, flashing is the way you get OS upgrades on it | 21:55 |
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| polpak | mgedmin: would it reset the device settings also? | 21:55 |
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| mgedmin | yes | 21:56 |
| Pupnik | no, you can't flash it. it's broken. i will buy it for 150 euro. | 21:56 |
| polpak | mgedmin: and how do you do it? | 21:56 |
| mgedmin | but you can back up and restore them | 21:56 |
| mgedmin | there's a windows GUI app for flashing (that I've never seen) | 21:56 |
| polpak | mgedmin: it's a demo system, so there's nothing on it I need | 21:56 |
| mgedmin | and cmdline apps for linux/mac os x | 21:56 |
| polpak | mgedmin: is there a non-windows app? | 21:56 |
| mgedmin | you can get those from somewhere at maemo.org | 21:56 |
| polpak | mgedmin: ok, I'll take a look | 21:57 |
| mgedmin | you can find documentation about flashing on maemo.org as well | 21:57 |
| sp3000 | surprisingly enough the general support site links all directions ;) http://www.nokia.com/A4305010 | 22:00 |
| mgedmin | but the URL is not very memorable | 22:00 |
| sp3000 | hm, except mac afaict | 22:00 |
| sp3000 | sure it is, http://google.com/search?q=update+n800 :P | 22:01 |
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| polpak | ... | 22:07 |
| polpak | where is the usb port on this thing | 22:08 |
| polpak | nrm | 22:08 |
| polpak | under the stand | 22:08 |
| tigert | yeah | 22:08 |
| tigert | well hidden :) | 22:08 |
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| Pupnik | that's so annoying, why don't they make a wireless usb? | 22:10 |
| maddler | evening all... | 22:11 |
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| inz | Pupnik, if you could also charge with that, it'd be helluva cool | 22:11 |
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| Pupnik | there are some companies starting to market wireless rechargers | 22:12 |
| Sulis | wireless usb...hmm, that does sound nice | 22:12 |
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| Pupnik | :P | 22:12 |
| Sulis | course, bluetooth exists to fill that sort of gap | 22:13 |
| Pupnik | i wasn't being serious :) | 22:14 |
| Sulis | omg but bluetooth still exists! see what you did! | 22:14 |
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| Sulis | is there an sdhc firmware with the nokia version 3.2007...... stuff? | 22:26 |
| kulve | not in the stock version, afaik | 22:27 |
| kulve | zuh made a sdhc enabled kernel available | 22:28 |
| kulve | somewhere | 22:28 |
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| Sulis | but that would basically be the 2.2006...... version | 22:29 |
| kulve | not sure what you mean, I mean this: http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-March/009368.html | 22:30 |
| Sulis | hmm, well that does answer my question...i think | 22:33 |
| Sulis | will have to update my n800 this evening | 22:33 |
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| zuh | There's a kernel for 2.2005.51 in http://intr.overt.org/n800-sdhc-kernel/ | 22:42 |
| Pupnik | huh.. somebody made an embedded java for the 770. http://k-embedded-java.com/downloads.html | 22:43 |
| zuh | (as well as for the newer firmware) | 22:43 |
| Sulis | zuh, there's no advantage to keeping the old firmware is there? | 22:43 |
| zuh | No, quite the opposite. The newer firmware has some video enhancements and naturally bug fixes. | 22:45 |
| Sulis | yeah, that's what i thought | 22:46 |
| kulve | it seems that the newer have (at least on my use) much better power saving. And it hasn't really crashed once after the update. But the touchscreen is broken, so I haven't used it much lately.. | 22:48 |
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| thoughtfix | Hmm ... I' | 22:53 |
| Sulis | the touchscreen is broken? i assume that's a hardware issue? | 22:56 |
| kulve | yeah | 22:56 |
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| kpel | hi all | 23:20 |
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| * Pupnik 'playtests' some more :) | 23:21 | |
| kpel | does the latest maemo release work out of the box for N800? | 23:25 |
| Pupnik | i haven't heard otherwise | 23:25 |
| kpel | thanks | 23:26 |
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| kpel | does youtube work properly with maemo or is a flash upgrade needed? | 23:29 |
| kpel | (flash as in macromedia flash) | 23:29 |
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| Sulis | kpel, maemo has an optimised version of flash | 23:31 |
| kpel | Sulis: so it can play youtube videos without problems? | 23:32 |
| Sulis | well i still have the older version of 2007 and it plays but it drops video frames, i don't know if the new version will play without dropping frames | 23:33 |
| kpel | does video conferencing work? | 23:34 |
| kpel | i'm thinking of buying an N800 and installing maemo | 23:34 |
| inz | This is a bit nitpicking, but maemo is actually the SDK, which you really don't want on the device | 23:36 |
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| kpel | oh, so it's not the actual image then | 23:37 |
| kpel | (not that I mind playing with the SDK) | 23:37 |
| inz | Has planet.maemo.org stopped updating? | 23:38 |
| inz | test.maemo.org's planet has 3 posts not found on planet.maemo.org | 23:39 |
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