| Pupnik | did you try snes9x 1.40 Tak? | 00:00 |
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| Tak | I thought that was just the stock source? | 00:10 |
| Tak | hmm - my battery indicator tells me it's "Charging" | 00:11 |
| * Tak is unplugged | 00:11 | |
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| talli | hi, i have a new n800 that has fallen into the nokia screen of death | 00:16 |
| talli | how do i resurrect it? | 00:16 |
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| derf | Try putting it into R&D mode after flashing it. | 00:20 |
| talli | how do i do both of those steps? | 00:20 |
| Pupnik | yeah it's stock, just wondering how it runs on n800 | 00:20 |
| derf | talli: Google. | 00:20 |
| talli | i have | 00:20 |
| derf | There's pretty complete instructions out there. | 00:21 |
| Pupnik | you'll need to #define LSB_FIRST | 00:21 |
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| talli | is there a flasher utility for OSX on x86? | 00:27 |
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| fuelfive | hum | 02:04 |
| fuelfive | anybody know what the file format is for the logo-nokia image in initfs? | 02:04 |
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| fuelfive | >>> print imghdr.what('logo-nokia') | 02:05 |
| fuelfive | None | 02:05 |
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| nomis | fuelfive: I'd suspect something raw. Do you happen to have the file online somewhere? | 02:06 |
| fuelfive | sure, hang on a sec | 02:06 |
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| fuelfive | http://dscottbrown.com/etc/logo-nokia | 02:08 |
| nomis | ok, that is too small for something raw. | 02:09 |
| nomis | 800*480 | 02:09 |
| nomis | eh | 02:09 |
| nomis | 800*480 would require 768000 bytes for 16bit. | 02:09 |
| fuelfive | well, could be smaller since the logo only occupies a portion of the screen | 02:09 |
| * nomis tries loading into the gimp. | 02:10 | |
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| Pupnik | it's not gzip, not recognized by 'file' | 02:10 |
| nomis | looks a lot like noise when looking at the raw data, which suggests something compressed. | 02:13 |
| fuelfive | or encrypted | 02:13 |
| nomis | maybe something runlength encoded. | 02:14 |
| nomis | fuelfive: kind of doubt that. | 02:14 |
| kkito | is it http://www.bootsplash.org ? | 02:14 |
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| fuelfive | i thought bootsplash used a jpeg (?) | 02:15 |
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| Pupnik | well tome is running in ncurses mode at least | 03:11 |
| Pupnik | that annoying "return" bringing up the touchpad has to go | 03:12 |
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| unique311 | Hi all, | 03:43 |
| unique311 | I got Qt working on the Nokia 770 (ran the examples/widgets example), | 03:43 |
| unique311 | but I would like to start the application in fullscreen mode, without | 03:43 |
| unique311 | the top and lateral desktop toolbars. | 03:43 |
| unique311 | How do gtk based apps achieve this ? | 03:43 |
| unique311 | this seems what the VNC client for maemo does: | 03:43 |
| unique311 | well i didn't | 03:43 |
| unique311 | but how true is this? | 03:43 |
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| brentfud | Yo | 05:28 |
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| brentfud | Quiet here | 06:29 |
| brentfud | ;) | 06:29 |
| Tak | indeed | 06:29 |
| brentfud | Took a sickie today | 06:29 |
| Tak | lol - me too | 06:30 |
| brentfud | Where you? | 06:32 |
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| Tak | texas | 06:32 |
| brentfud | Trying to get wireless usb going on my linkstation | 06:33 |
| brentfud | SO I have wireless for the n800 | 06:33 |
| brentfud | I shoulda just bought a wirless router | 06:33 |
| brentfud | ;) | 06:33 |
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| unique311 | my attempt at fullscreening mtpaint tonight was a failure... | 07:17 |
| unique311 | computer language i just can't do... | 07:18 |
| unique311 | where'z everybody at? | 07:18 |
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| AD-N770 | good orning | 11:26 |
| AD-N770 | morning | 11:26 |
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| maddler | AD-N770: morning... | 11:33 |
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| florian | good morning | 12:15 |
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| maddler | HELLO... | 12:33 |
| maddler | wops... | 12:33 |
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| * pahartik tried "handwriting" input method on Maemo 2.2, but it probably requires handwriting skills to be useful, much unlike "graffiti" on PalmOS | 12:57 | |
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| Pupnik | unique311_: hey | 13:39 |
| Pupnik | i have been getting crashes with my compile | 13:39 |
| Pupnik | how was stability for you? | 13:39 |
| Pupnik | for example drawing in brush mode and dragging the stylus off the edge of the paint area crashed it | 13:40 |
| Pupnik | This could be related to mistral's gtk2.0 implementation | 13:47 |
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| knoppix | hi there. | 13:52 |
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| Guard][an | io | 13:59 |
| lardman | I see someone asking about checking the battery level from a terminal on the ml | 14:04 |
| lardman | I guess he needs something like the tool mentioned here: http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-users/2006-August/001782.html | 14:04 |
| lardman | The question is, is it legal to release this code ? | 14:04 |
| lardman | ah, who cares, it's online already: http://www.arava.co.il/matan/770/retu-adc.c | 14:05 |
| Pupnik | cool | 14:06 |
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| b0unc3 | good morning | 14:13 |
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| Pupnik | oooh enhanced xterm is so much nicer with Bitstream Vera Sans Mono - Bold | 14:24 |
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| tigert | yes it is | 14:54 |
| zuh | "enhanced" as in the maemo-hackers version or something else? | 14:55 |
| tigert | I guess that one | 14:56 |
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| Pupnik | http://www.pupnik.de/Tome_770_Ncurses.jpg | 15:10 |
| Pupnik | you can download it for mistral / it2006 zuh | 15:11 |
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| zuh | Pupnik: I have it on my N800, was just wondering if there was some other version around... | 15:43 |
| unique311_ | morning all | 15:46 |
| Pupnik_ | morning unique311_ - did you experience any crashes when making large rgb canvases with mtpaint? | 15:51 |
| Pupnik_ | actually please update me in privatemessage - i have to go ear | 15:51 |
| Pupnik_ | eat | 15:51 |
| unique311_ | no crashes at all.. | 15:53 |
| unique311_ | well work bound... | 15:53 |
| unique311_ | i'll let you know later... | 15:53 |
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| einari | would someone have an idea that is my memory card broken os would this indicate some other problem? | 16:13 |
| einari | [ 206.098175] FAT: Filesystem panic (dev mmcblk0p1) | 16:13 |
| einari | [ 206.098205] clusters badly computed (59 != 50) | 16:13 |
| einari | [ 206.098236] File system has been set read-only | 16:13 |
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| maddler | hello... | 16:43 |
| derf | HI THERE. | 16:44 |
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| pupnik\ | sorry | 17:20 |
| keesj | STOP doing that! | 17:21 |
| keesj | :0 | 17:21 |
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| Pupnik | there we go | 17:22 |
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| Pupnik | keesj you gave me a link to avoid the synergy client carriage-return-bringing-up-onscreen-keyboard, but i lost it after accidentially killing my X session | 17:23 |
| Pupnik | do you know any keywords i could search on? or have the link handy? | 17:24 |
| keesj | Pupnik kees it is in kbdd http://box.mmapps.net/~keesj/kbdd/btkbd maemo-gtk-im-switch osso-input-method | 17:27 |
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| Pupnik | thank you... saved! | 17:28 |
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| keesj | dev_uinput.c there also has Keep screen actice code | 17:29 |
| keesj | it's not my code :P | 17:29 |
| Pupnik | what do i change to set input method to X / synergy? | 17:30 |
| plaes | is it possible to hide the icon in the hildon_wizard dialog? | 17:31 |
| keesj | maemo-gtk-im-switch xim | 17:31 |
| plaes | at least API doesn't show anything :( | 17:31 |
| keesj | xim = x input method , that might also fix the x11vnc problem perhaps? | 17:32 |
| Pupnik | ah | 17:32 |
| Pupnik | that's it - just that one command... maemo-gtk-im-switch xim | 17:33 |
| keesj | yes | 17:33 |
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| * Pupnik bursts with happiness | 17:33 | |
| keesj | :p | 17:35 |
| * zulla is still not familiar with n800 development. | 17:38 | |
| zulla | boy, I'm so behind the times. | 17:38 |
| zulla | just curious: where to look for the public sources of the n800 bundled apps? | 17:38 |
| zulla | I wonder if it's possible for users to modify the n800 media player app with some small patches. | 17:39 |
| * zulla is doing so much management these days, he hardly gets to do actual coding anymore. | 17:39 | |
| zulla | sniff. | 17:39 |
| derf | zulla: Well, the media player is based on gstreamer. | 17:40 |
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| derf | I don't know that the actual application code is open source, but gstreamer is. | 17:40 |
| zulla | derf: I just want to patch a few very minor enhancements into it. | 17:41 |
| derf | I'm saying, if those enhancements are to the stuff gstreamer is responsible for handling, you may be in luck. | 17:41 |
| derf | Otherwise, I wouldn't count on it. | 17:41 |
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| zulla | https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1228 and https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1129 | 17:42 |
| zulla | derf: yeah, I was wondering about the application's source. | 17:42 |
| keesj | http://www.bleb.org/software/n800/os2007-src/ | 17:43 |
| keesj | zulla you can have a look there | 17:43 |
| zulla | keesj: Thanks! The player is in the deb package mediaplayer-ui, but its source appears not to be in there. | 17:47 |
| zulla | I'll ask Nokia's package maintainer. | 17:47 |
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| zulla | Darn. The package is closed source: http://maemo.org/maemowiki/Os2007On770 | 17:52 |
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| keesj | I heard that canola was anounced to become opensource | 17:54 |
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| zulla | keesj: Yes, "someday". I still like the original media player, despite the beautiful UI of Canola. | 17:56 |
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| lsobral | hi keesj, that's true it was announced during the bossa conference that canola will be open source | 17:57 |
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| lsobral | but it is still pending legal checks | 17:57 |
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| keesj | I did not really do a lot with my nokie lately | 17:59 |
| zulla | lsobral: Great! What are the legal issues? | 17:59 |
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| keesj | at work there is no wifi and I did not setup a bt / wifi or usb network up | 18:00 |
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| keesj | I would love to use the n800 in combo with canola on my desktop | 18:00 |
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| lsobral | zulla, I don't know, I am just a programmer :) | 18:02 |
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| lsobral | keesj, what do you mean by using the n800 in "combo" with canola? | 18:03 |
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| zulla | lsobral: Could you note the "please store time position on stop & close" feature request for Canola, too? | 18:05 |
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| keesj | lsobral: so in combo with my desktop , so I can stream etc | 18:07 |
| lsobral | zulla, yes we are taking this feature in consideration, specially for podcasts, where you may want to restore the last position you stopped | 18:08 |
| zulla | lsobral: Thanks! It's highly practical for feature films, as well. I watch movies on my N800 while on the subway and can watch 10-20 minutes per ride, only. It's quite annoying to search the last playback position each time. | 18:09 |
| lsobral | keesj, canola is not a media server, it is a media client, you will be able to run it in your desktop too, but for consuming media not for streaming | 18:10 |
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| bhima|n800 | Hrm. Wasn't there a package that let you get root without R&D mode? I thought I saw it once but I can't find it now. | 19:27 |
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| derf | http://downloads.maemo.org/product/becomeroot/ | 19:33 |
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| zuh | bhima|n800|drivi: ssh? | 19:46 |
| keesj | lsobral My point was not clear. what I was trying to say is that the n800 is not very interesting without a connection | 19:46 |
| bhima|n800|drivi | derf: ooh, thanks. | 19:46 |
| keesj | I did use a 4Gig sd card for a while. that helped :) | 19:47 |
| bhima|n800|drivi | keesj: did you put gcc on it? | 19:49 |
| bhima|n800|drivi | ok, back to driving. | 19:49 |
| keesj | no , media | 19:49 |
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| Tak|work | I'm a little surprised that mono wasn't mentioned at http://www.gnome.org/mobile/ | 21:12 |
| robtaylor | Tak|work: well, all the technologies are one that are currently deployed and tested | 21:14 |
| robtaylor | Tak|work: mono on arm's really a little young yet | 21:14 |
| Tak|work | not even in the "Technologies we're considering" section | 21:15 |
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| Tak|work | I had the impression that there was a stable, workable mono port for os2005 | 21:15 |
| robtaylor | Tak|work: yeah, i'll suggest we add it, cos its pretty cool | 21:15 |
| keesj | I hope mono has a bright future | 21:15 |
| robtaylor | Tak|work: well, there was an experimental port for os2005 | 21:15 |
| robtaylor | it did hello world, at least | 21:16 |
| keesj | I also did hello world on a s3c2410 arm | 21:16 |
| keesj | perhaps it was a 2440 | 21:17 |
| keesj | but I had the impression people where doing graphical hello worlds :p | 21:18 |
| keesj | how do I resove such issues ? http://paste-it.net/1968/raw/ | 21:19 |
| Tak|work | pkg-config is not installable? | 21:20 |
| keesj | that is what sbox is saying | 21:20 |
| Tak|work | isn't there some tool in sbox that will fake-install packages for stuff that comes preinstalled? (like pkg-config) ? | 21:21 |
| keesj | alright , thankt , Yes hmm .that is the last part of the install where they say it's easy ! | 21:21 |
| Tak|work | "It's so easy, we didn't do it for you!" | 21:22 |
| keesj | It's so easy , use the installer, look in maemo-sdk-install_3.1.sh , Copyright (C) 2006 Nokia Corporation This is proprietary software owned by Nokia Corporation :p | 21:23 |
| keesj | the problem is that I still don't understand enough of debian to really be happy and understand what they are doing | 21:25 |
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| sigger | setting up scratchbox. can anyone give me a little help installing rootstrap? can't seem to find the i386 rootstrap | 22:02 |
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| CountDown | Anyone know which MPEG-4 audio elements are available for gstreamer on maemo? | 22:06 |
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| forcev | hi, if I have installed scratchbox via apt and not the script does that complicate get up and running with the sdk? | 22:09 |
| Ha2xRi | CountDown: ex. dspmpeg4sink? | 22:10 |
| Tak|work | well - have you followed the instructions? | 22:10 |
| CountDown | Ha2xRi: Doesn't show up in gst-inspect.... are you guessing at the name or is that a known element? | 22:13 |
| forcev | I'm following the instructions, I'm just curious | 22:13 |
| forcev | I have a habit of breaking things | 22:14 |
| Ha2xRi | CountDown: what you are using? 770, n800, scratchbox? | 22:14 |
| sigger | forcev, you have the rootstrap for i386? I can't find it. | 22:14 |
| forcev | sigger: I've just installed scratchbox | 22:15 |
| CountDown | Ha2xRi: I'm on the N800. | 22:15 |
| forcev | im going one step at a time :) | 22:15 |
| sigger | heh, well then you're at the same step as me. (though I did wget and tar rather than apt) | 22:15 |
| Ha2xRi | CountDown: is there v4lsink? i don't have now n800 device here, so i can't check it :) | 22:17 |
| sp3000 | hrm | 22:18 |
| sp3000 | is there a diff somewhere practical | 22:18 |
| sp3000 | diff(1) even | 22:18 |
| CountDown | Ha2xRi: Nope, just v4lsrc. | 22:19 |
| forcev | sigger: what toolchain did you set up? | 22:19 |
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| sigger | forcev: mm, I think I got rs. | 22:19 |
| sigger | one sec | 22:19 |
| sigger | scratchbox-toolchain-cs2005q3.2-glibc-arm-0.9.8.5-6.tar.gz | 22:19 |
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| forcev | and that would work with Bora? | 22:20 |
| CountDown | Ha2xRi: Basically, I'm just trying to add audio to an RTP video stream that QuickTime Streaming Server will understand. I have the video portion working already. | 22:20 |
| sigger | mm, I'm using the Maemo 2.1 tutorial on getting scratchbox up | 22:20 |
| sigger | isn't bora a later version? | 22:20 |
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| forcev | yeah it's 3.0+ | 22:21 |
| CountDown | The folks at #gstreamer say that I'll need to build the faac plugin for Maemo, but I doubt I'll have time for that. | 22:21 |
| sigger | I'm setting up for 770. that only uses the older, no? | 22:21 |
| forcev | I believe so | 22:21 |
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| sigger | ew, when setting up the rootstrap, I did sbox-config -cc and got "cp: cannot overwrite directory `/usr/include/asm' with non-directory" | 22:51 |
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| sp3000 | grumble | 23:12 |
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| sp3000 | downloads.mo search is broken again :( | 23:12 |
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| * sp3000 is annoyed | 23:13 | |
| * sp3000 can't reopen the bug on garage | 23:13 | |
| Tak|work | hah, has the search ever worked? | 23:14 |
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| Pupnik | pocketsnes must be ported to nokia | 23:16 |
| Pupnik | those jerks are getting full frame rates on a 250mhz arm cpu | 23:16 |
| maddler | doh... | 23:19 |
| maddler | I should install dspam on our mail server... | 23:19 |
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| sp3000 | Tak|work: yes, for the last two weeks | 23:27 |
| Tak|work | maybe we need this: http://www.oldskool.org/pc/8088_Corruption | 23:27 |
| s100user | hi | 23:34 |
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| Pupnik | i hate intel | 23:47 |
| Tak|work | why today? | 23:49 |
| Pupnik | every day | 23:54 |
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| Pupnik | read up on the 8088, read up on a20, read up on their israel fab | 23:55 |
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