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| Pupnik | snes_width and root_width are getting set correctly (256) | 00:59 |
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| Pupnik | aha there it is, gui_width = 720 and height = 420, and the Scale16 routine is getting called | 01:06 |
| Pupnik | bingo. running at 1x now | 01:06 |
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| Sonej | Is it possible to rotate the webbrowser on the N800? | 01:07 |
| Pupnik | no | 01:11 |
| Pupnik | are you interested in hiring someone to write a rotated browser? | 01:12 |
| Sonej | If hiring means free, then yes | 01:13 |
| Sonej | Nokia should have thought about it at least | 01:16 |
| Pupnik | terrible idea. how many web pages look good at <480 width | 01:17 |
| Sonej | true, damn.. | 01:18 |
| Pupnik | some other things work in portrait mode... xgalaga for e.g. | 01:21 |
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| s100user | hello | 01:22 |
| s100user | anyone using navicore here? | 01:22 |
| Pupnik | what's that | 01:24 |
| mikemorrison | gps navigation software | 01:26 |
| s100user | how do you download it ? | 01:27 |
| s100user | apparently, it can be downloaded from navicore's site... | 01:27 |
| mikemorrison | you have to buy it | 01:28 |
| s100user | I know.... | 01:29 |
| s100user | I would like to test it first... though... | 01:29 |
| mikemorrison | i doubt that's possible | 01:30 |
| s100user | too bad... | 01:31 |
| s100user | I guess I'll buy something from someone else... for less than 200eur you can buy a full gps for the car... | 01:31 |
| qgil | s100user: what dop you need to know, and where do you live | 01:31 |
| s100user | qgil: hi, I'd like do a "testdrive" with navicore. to see if I like it...I'm in SW europe. | 01:32 |
| qgil | s100user: http://www.navicoretech.com/Consumer/Product/ | 01:33 |
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| qgil | contact top your closer retailer, there is little else we can help here | 01:33 |
| s100user | ok. I thought there was a demo version avaliable... or even a 1week trial... | 01:34 |
| qgil | ask them :) this is really out of our scope | 01:34 |
| mikemorrison | i'm sure you could buy it and then return it if you don't like it | 01:34 |
| s100user | how about that nokia "free" navigation project? | 01:35 |
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| qgil | s100user: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/maemo-mapper/ ? | 01:35 |
| s100user | what was it called? | 01:35 |
| s100user | no... :) | 01:35 |
| qgil | no no | 01:35 |
| s100user | nav2 something | 01:35 |
| qgil | I was pasting that url before seeing your question :) | 01:35 |
| s100user | smart2go | 01:35 |
| s100user | http://www.smart2go.com/en/ | 01:36 |
| s100user | free maps... free navigation... | 01:36 |
| s100user | but only for simbian and win mobile.. :( | 01:36 |
| Pupnik | another dumb question, is there something like shm or dga for kdrive? | 01:38 |
| mikemorrison | the navigation portion of that program is not "free" | 01:38 |
| Pupnik | or put another way, is there a reference to how my X app can blit rectangles to screen the fastest? | 01:39 |
| qgil | s100user: fill a feature request in bugzilla and I will try to investigate if there are plans to have that service ported for the tablets | 01:39 |
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| mikemorrison | does anyone know how the multi-select is implemented in the file manager? i would like something similar in the treeview of my program | 01:41 |
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| mikemorrison | the media player has the same multi-select abilities. is this something that has been added to the gtktreeview code? | 01:45 |
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| mikemorrison | ok let me guess, they use HildonFileSelection? | 01:52 |
| Pupnik | hmm mplayer says it has xv driver avail | 01:54 |
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| Pupnik | ssvbkkito: yes, xv is really faster, but this video is just too heavy for decoding (it needs 35 seconds of cpu time for decoding this 20 seconds video fragment) | 01:56 |
| Pupnik | https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/libvo/vo_dga.c?root=mplayer&rev=82&view=markup | 01:58 |
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| mikemorrison | Pupnik: do you have a 770 or n800? | 02:07 |
| Pupnik | 770 | 02:09 |
| Pupnik | right now just creating a regulat X window | 02:09 |
| Pupnik | regular | 02:09 |
| Pupnik | XCreateWindow(dpy, ...) | 02:10 |
| Pupnik | there are only a few code snippets on garage but Rene Hexel's Turning a plain X11 Window into a GTK Window was useful for me | 02:12 |
| Pupnik | wow that snes scaler is fast | 02:16 |
| Pupnik | cutting it out hardly gained any speed | 02:16 |
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| Pupnik | xaos fractal zoomer kinda works :) | 02:34 |
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| * Pupnik compares snes9x 1.40 to 1.50 and finds no speed differences | 03:47 | |
| * Juhaz takes the scythe to Pupnik | 03:48 | |
| CountDown | I'm making some progress in using gstreamer to stream video off of the N800 to a server. The problem I'm having now is that I don't know the gstreamer pipeline syntax for including a username and password so that the receiving server will accept the stream. Any ideas? | 03:50 |
| Pupnik | no | 03:53 |
| CountDown | :) | 03:53 |
| CountDown | Better than nothing. | 03:53 |
| unique311 | Pupnik... | 03:55 |
| unique311 | check out this repo.... | 03:55 |
| Pupnik | unique, i got one of the snes devs to give me some advice, but it didn't help much | 03:56 |
| unique311 | http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/src/mirror1.pdaxrom.org/source/src/ | 03:56 |
| unique311 | cacko src files.... | 03:56 |
| Pupnik | i'm gonna get pocketsnes working - apparently there's a mmu hack that gives a 3x speedup on arm | 03:56 |
| Pupnik | cool.. what's cacko? | 03:56 |
| unique311 | i'm liking the GIMP src file... | 03:56 |
| unique311 | run on zaurus i think.. | 03:56 |
| unique311 | linux | 03:56 |
| Pupnik | gimp? | 03:56 |
| unique311 | im justyeah | 03:56 |
| unique311 | yes | 03:57 |
| unique311 | theres a src file in there | 03:57 |
| Pupnik | cool | 03:57 |
| unique311 | can you run that for me...see what issues..and i'm hoping its not QT | 03:57 |
| unique311 | gonna do some more investigating on that site...when i get home.. | 03:58 |
| Pupnik | no i'm working on snes | 03:58 |
| unique311 | perty please... | 03:58 |
| unique311 | my scratchbox is scewed and need reinstalling... | 03:59 |
| unique311 | anyone else care to get that gimp src and run it for me... | 03:59 |
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| Pupnik | what am i supposed to download | 03:59 |
| Pupnik | http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/src/mirror1.pdaxrom.org/source/src/gimp-2.0.4.tar.bz2 | 04:00 |
| Pupnik | ? | 04:00 |
| unique311 | yes | 04:00 |
| Pupnik | you know nothing written for zaurus is going to run out of the box | 04:00 |
| unique311 | im just wishing QT is not one of the issues.. | 04:01 |
| Pupnik | but i'll compile it to test | 04:01 |
| unique311 | cool, you rock | 04:01 |
| Pupnik | checking for libart-2.0... not found | 04:01 |
| unique311 | crossing finger....down with QT until its ported to maemo..lol | 04:02 |
| Pupnik | yeah | 04:02 |
| unique311 | check the makefile and see if there's a QT flag or something | 04:02 |
| Pupnik | just a minute | 04:03 |
| Pupnik | btw pocketsnes is totally the way to go for the nokias | 04:04 |
| unique311 | cool | 04:04 |
| unique311 | how's that working | 04:04 |
| Pupnik | not running at all, i have to merge in the x11 stuff from snes9x | 04:05 |
| Pupnik | and take out the gp2x crap | 04:05 |
| Pupnik | and of course all that takes a lot of time when you have no clue | 04:06 |
| unique311 | alot of work...? | 04:06 |
| unique311 | i don't | 04:06 |
| Pupnik | yeah every change i do requires like 1/2 hour of googling | 04:06 |
| unique311 | real quick and maybe stupid question.... | 04:09 |
| unique311 | wine for maemo? possible | 04:09 |
| Pupnik | no because the windows programs run natively on the x86 of the linux box | 04:10 |
| Pupnik | wine just emulates the windows api | 04:10 |
| Pupnik | so theoretically, you might be able to run a windows program using an x86 cpu emulator + wine on the nokia to handle the calls | 04:12 |
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| Pupnik | like bochs or something | 04:12 |
| unique311 | n800 powerfull enough to do so | 04:12 |
| Pupnik | you might be able to get like 20mhz 80386 performance | 04:13 |
| Pupnik | probably closer to a 12mhz 80286 | 04:14 |
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| Pupnik | Here's a video of the SDL+Xsp pixel-doubling problem in Ur-Quan Masters http://home.arcor.de/arnim.sauerbier/UQM_Xsp_SDL_Doubling_Bugs.avi | 04:18 |
| Pupnik | it's blurry but at least you can see what's going on | 04:19 |
| Pupnik | gimp compiled | 04:21 |
| unique311 | joking? | 04:21 |
| Pupnik | no | 04:21 |
| unique311 | oh happy dayzzzzz... | 04:21 |
| Pupnik | doesn't show anything when i run it though | 04:21 |
| unique311 | oh happy dayz | 04:21 |
| unique311 | danm | 04:21 |
| unique311 | lol | 04:21 |
| unique311 | but it compiles which is good.. | 04:22 |
| unique311 | the readme | 04:22 |
| Pupnik | 10267912 Apr 15 02:18 gimp-2.0 | 04:22 |
| unique311 | did you compile it on x86 or qemu | 04:22 |
| Pupnik | qemu | 04:22 |
| unique311 | cool | 04:22 |
| Pupnik | seeing if it runs on 770 | 04:22 |
| unique311 | send me when u done.. | 04:23 |
| Pupnik | but it installs a *ton* of crap which i'm not going to put on the 770 | 04:23 |
| Pupnik | just going to test the executeable | 04:23 |
| unique311 | hopefully n800 is happy with it | 04:23 |
| unique311 | danm i have to get ready... | 04:23 |
| unique311 | this might force me to stay home.. | 04:23 |
| unique311 | test some of those sources | 04:23 |
| Pupnik | well i didn't change anything to compile it | 04:24 |
| unique311 | cacko...armv5tel | 04:24 |
| Pupnik | nothing | 04:25 |
| unique311 | bummer | 04:25 |
| unique311 | anybody has input on why it doesn't display | 04:26 |
| unique311 | can it be fixed | 04:26 |
| Pupnik | why don't you set up another scratchbox target and compile it | 04:26 |
| unique311 | http://images.google.com/images?q=cacko&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi | 04:26 |
| unique311 | i will.. | 04:26 |
| unique311 | i gotta go out in a bit.. | 04:27 |
| unique311 | shower in a few.. | 04:27 |
| Pupnik | ok | 04:27 |
| unique311 | i'm like pushing it right now.. | 04:27 |
| unique311 | sucks.. | 04:27 |
| unique311 | i will 2morrow night.. | 04:27 |
| unique311 | thanks Pupnik.. | 04:28 |
| Pupnik | sure -- ttyl | 04:29 |
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| bipolar | How do I get ogg support in the media player? | 05:16 |
| ish | sorry to raise a possible faq, but is there any software way/trick to solve the white screen of death? just happened after flashing the most recent release (770) | 05:16 |
| * Pupnik can't help either question | 05:17 | |
| derf | ish: Have you tried putting the thing in R&D mode? | 05:19 |
| derf | I've been able to successfully un-brick my N800 that way: flash with R&D disabled (not sure if that matters), then enable R&D and reboot. | 05:20 |
| bipolar | I found this: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/mogg | 05:22 |
| bipolar | I'll let everyone know if it works :P | 05:22 |
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| ish | derf: will try, thanks. | 05:25 |
| bipolar | well, that was a bad idea | 05:31 |
| bipolar | now mediaplayer won't even start | 05:31 |
| bipolar | screw it... installed mplayer :P | 05:40 |
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| ish | sigh, no luck with R&D mode.. | 06:06 |
| derf | The only other thing I could think to try would be to disable the watchdogs (NOT the retu one, that's a deadman's switch). | 06:09 |
| derf | But that's only likely to work if you're caught in an infinite reboot loop. If it's just freezing, I dunno. | 06:10 |
| derf | You took all the MMC cards out before flashing, right? | 06:11 |
| ish | I hear the sound, so it sounds like it booted successfully.. | 06:11 |
| ish | oh well.. | 06:11 |
| ish | no, didn't remove the MMC card.. don't see that in the HOWTO. | 06:17 |
| ish | Hmm, I get this after a flash: | 06:17 |
| ish | Finishing flashing... done | 06:17 |
| ish | Sending request 0x83 failed: Cannot send after transport endpoint shutdown | 06:17 |
| ish | Don't recall seeing that when I flashed successfully months ago. | 06:18 |
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| sudo | http://www.codigolibre.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=1 | 06:23 |
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| Pupnik | https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/libsdl1.2/src/video/XFree86/Xxf86dga/XF86DGA.c | 07:45 |
| Pupnik | looks like i can use XF86DGA in maemo? | 07:45 |
| Pupnik | hrm no xf86dga.h | 07:56 |
| * Pupnik comments-out all the dga crap | 07:59 | |
| Pupnik | cpuexec.cpp: APU_EXECUTE(3); // notaz: run spc700 in sound 'speed hack' mode | 08:26 |
| Pupnik | aha! | 08:26 |
| Pupnik | we definitely want "speed hack"! :) | 08:26 |
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| kulve | bipolar: if you want to just play oggs, use kilikali :) | 09:47 |
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| Bighugo | hi | 10:22 |
| Pupnik | ho | 10:22 |
| Bighugo | i try to checkout sdk's source code | 10:23 |
| Bighugo | but there is an error | 10:23 |
| Bighugo | i am using windows TortoiseSVN | 10:24 |
| Bighugo | Error: Can't check path 'C:\SourceCode\Maemo_new\maemo-branches\IT-2006\osso-gnome-vfs2\data\mime\WHERE_IS_THE_MIME_REGISTRY?': The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect. | 10:24 |
| Bighugo | anybody know this? | 10:27 |
| mikemorrison | windows can't handle question marks in the file name | 10:27 |
| Bighugo | thanks, but i don't have Linux machine at hand | 10:28 |
| Bighugo | any solution? | 10:28 |
| mikemorrison | maybe you can just not check that file out | 10:30 |
| Bighugo | but it can't skip the error then continue | 10:30 |
| Bighugo | it stops | 10:30 |
| Bighugo | I have some questions about maemo and hildon | 10:31 |
| Bighugo | i found that Hildon widget uses many hardcode | 10:31 |
| Bighugo | this isn't so flexible for programmer | 10:35 |
| Bighugo | any idea for this? | 10:35 |
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| Bighugo | such as:/* Toolbar width and height defines */ | 10:37 |
| Bighugo | #define TOOL_MINIMUM_WIDTH 75 | 10:37 |
| Bighugo | #define TOOL_DEFAULT_HEIGHT 40 | 10:37 |
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| Bighugo | has anybody tried maemo on other platform? | 10:45 |
| Pupnik | sometimes abstracting is a waste of time | 10:47 |
| Pupnik | afaik maemo was designed for the 770, and 800x480 | 10:48 |
| Bighugo | yeah | 10:48 |
| Pupnik | but i am just guessing, i do not speak for nokia | 10:48 |
| Bighugo | but It also supports x86 | 10:48 |
| Pupnik | also consider number of developers and amount of time they had to make it | 10:49 |
| Bighugo | i agree, this may need extra efforts | 10:50 |
| Bighugo | seems Nokia wants to promote GMAE | 10:51 |
| Bighugo | GMAE will be more open, i think these dependencies could be removed | 10:51 |
| Bighugo | if somebody wants to use maemo for his own resolution, saying 1024x600, he may have to modify them | 10:54 |
| Bighugo | maybe this needs big effort, because there are too many hardcode values | 10:55 |
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| Pupnik | you're trying to run maemo on windows? | 11:12 |
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| Bighugo | no | 11:16 |
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| Bighugo | i wants to run it on my laptop | 11:16 |
| Bighugo | i am curious how the issue will be addressed | 11:18 |
| Bighugo | because i saw many hardcode | 11:18 |
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| Bighugo | any plan to support other resolution? | 11:27 |
| _handful_ | hei big hugo | 11:29 |
| _handful_ | you may want to give a look at lucas's blog | 11:30 |
| _handful_ | he's working in the next hildon desktop... and he talks a lot about this things | 11:30 |
| _handful_ | I think if you download the newest version of sardine.. you can test it | 11:30 |
| _handful_ | http://blogs.gnome.org/view/lucasr/2007/02/09/0 -> hildon desktop scalabilty | 11:31 |
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| Bighugo | hi handful | 11:34 |
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| Bighugo | cool | 11:35 |
| Bighugo | it works under 1024x768 perfectly | 11:35 |
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| _handful_ | yeah | 11:37 |
| _handful_ | you can talk directly to lucas or karoliina here about that =) | 11:38 |
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| Bighugo | where can i get the latest sardine? | 11:39 |
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| Pupnik | du pocketsnes/ - 5220 | 13:07 |
| Pupnik | du nokiasnes/ - 3708 | 13:07 |
| * Pupnik flexes | 13:08 | |
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| b0unc3 | morning... | 13:57 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 14:38 |
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| Pupnik | i wonder, if someone sponsored me to write some gpl code, could i mention their name in the source, or even put an ad banner on the program (but not barring others from removing that banner in recompiles or derivative works) | 14:41 |
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| Pupnik | what would an open-source advertisement look like? | 14:42 |
| czr | you could add "such and such work was sponsored by foo" | 14:42 |
| robtaylor | Pupnik: in general, if you're emplyed to write code, the copyright is owned by the person who paid for it | 14:45 |
| robtaylor | Pupnik: but you can always negotiate other terms, and if there's no contract involved, i'd guess the copyright would be owned by you | 14:46 |
| robtaylor | ianal ;) | 14:47 |
| `0660 | you could put banners on the homepage of the software | 14:47 |
| `0660 | mention the company in the readme and release notes... | 14:47 |
| Pupnik | the nokia has gotten be back into programming. it's wonderful | 14:52 |
| robtaylor | :) | 14:56 |
| Pupnik | stubbing my toes a lot of course | 14:57 |
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| Pupnik | ok it's quiet | 15:22 |
| Pupnik | why am i going blind here | 15:22 |
| Pupnik | gcc -g -O3 -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -DXTHREADS -DXUSE_MTSAFE_API -I/usr/X11R6/include -mcpu=arm926ej-s -c sa1.cpp -o sa1.o | 15:22 |
| Pupnik | sa1.cpp:87: error: `SA1SetFlags' undeclared (first use this function) | 15:22 |
| Pupnik | ... but sa1.cpp #includes "sa1.h" | 15:22 |
| Pupnik | oh DDDUH | 15:23 |
| Pupnik | it's #ifdefd out | 15:23 |
| Pupnik | #define USE_SA1 | 15:24 |
| Pupnik | :) nm | 15:24 |
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| Pupnik | hey Tak, i'm making progress on nokiasnes (snes9x 1.4 + pocketsnes v6) | 15:39 |
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| Pupnik | i have no idea how much speed improvement to expect | 15:40 |
| Pupnik | but the core is simpler and the sound emulation also | 15:40 |
| Pupnik | missing some ADSR stuff | 15:41 |
| Pupnik | pulled out a ton of stuff | 15:41 |
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| glass | what you're porting this time? | 15:45 |
| Pupnik | well i built snes9x 1.5 and 1.4 (which one of the snes9x devs hinted might be faster) | 15:45 |
| Pupnik | and they're both too slow by far on the 770 | 15:46 |
| Pupnik | so i'm doing my first real port - i.e. something that doesn't basically build with minor tweaks | 15:46 |
| Pupnik | merging the arm-optimized pocketsnes with snes9x 1.4 | 15:46 |
| Pupnik | hour 14 :) | 15:48 |
| Pupnik | both the stock snes9x versions ran so slow, it didn't make a difference whether they were stretching the display to full screen or not | 15:51 |
| Pupnik | though on the 800 they're said to be fairly playable | 15:52 |
| Pupnik | these things are pretty incredible | 15:54 |
| Pupnik | just some food for thought, probably the most cpu intensive part of the SNES to emulate is the PPC - pixel processor | 15:55 |
| Pupnik | which does the 2d blitting / blending and effects | 15:55 |
| Pupnik | just to see what's involved, check out these variants of the PPC emulator | 15:56 |
| Pupnik | 30842 Oct 16 2002 tile.cpp | 15:56 |
| Pupnik | 357457 Jun 1 2006 tilenew.cpp | 15:56 |
| Pupnik | 383089 Jun 3 2006 tiledave.cpp | 15:56 |
| Pupnik | in addition, there are 17 different coprocessors that were integrated into Snes ROMS throughout the years, which increased the performance of the console in various ways | 15:59 |
| Pupnik | http://nsrt.edgeemu.com/INFO/chipinfo.htm | 16:00 |
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| Pupnik | unique311: you there? | 16:12 |
| Pupnik | i was wondering if you had a reference to the usage of that gimp port | 16:15 |
| Pupnik | i.e. how was it modified to work with a stylus? | 16:15 |
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| Pupnik | got to remove snapshots for now | 16:35 |
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| unique311 | Pupnik whats up? | 16:36 |
| unique311 | \had to get ready for work... | 16:37 |
| unique311 | whats going on? | 16:37 |
| Pupnik | oh | 16:37 |
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| Pupnik | still working on snes | 16:37 |
| Pupnik | no sleep yet :) | 16:37 |
| unique311 | hehe...snes is going to be the death of you... | 16:38 |
| unique311 | how's it coming? | 16:38 |
| Pupnik | it's more complicated than i could have imagined | 16:39 |
| Pupnik | i'm hopefully 2/3rds of the way to getting something that will compile | 16:40 |
| unique311 | but you're up for the complications.. | 16:40 |
| Pupnik | i didn't look at gimp yet | 16:40 |
| unique311 | thats good | 16:40 |
| unique311 | i will tonight | 16:40 |
| unique311 | i get off at 7 | 16:40 |
| konttori_ | either of you still looking at the pico? | 16:40 |
| Pupnik | no i'm more motivated for snes | 16:41 |
| unique311 | I was..but i forgot why i stopped.. | 16:42 |
| unique311 | something wasn't working | 16:42 |
| unique311 | maybe there's a picdrive for cacko.. | 16:42 |
| unique311 | hold on | 16:42 |
| Pupnik | konttori_: is there hardware pixel doubling for the n800? | 16:43 |
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| Pupnik | if not, there's no reason not to package and release snes 1.5 for the n800 | 16:44 |
| konttori_ | Pupnik: Yeah. It works in teh latest firmware | 16:44 |
| Pupnik | somebody besides me would need to look into sound | 16:44 |
| konttori_ | From what I've understood, the call is the same as for 770 | 16:45 |
| Pupnik | konttori_: good, i'll see what i can do about sound then | 16:45 |
| konttori_ | How fast is current version running without sound? | 16:46 |
| Pupnik | i only have a vague report that speed is 'ok' on n800 | 16:46 |
| konttori_ | And on 770? | 16:47 |
| Pupnik | terrible.. 6-8 fps on chrono trigger | 16:47 |
| konttori_ | I suppose the speed difference isn't that big between them anyway | 16:47 |
| konttori_ | shame. Anything that can be done realistically for it? | 16:47 |
| konttori_ | ANy idea how come vsun runs so fast on ARM? | 16:47 |
| Pupnik | that's what i'm looking into. I'm porting the gp2x snes over, which runs on a 200mhz arm940 | 16:47 |
| konttori_ | Is it running at better fps there? | 16:48 |
| Pupnik | yes much, but it doesn't emulate a number of add-on chips | 16:48 |
| konttori_ | I suppose they use the secondary processor for audio on that device | 16:48 |
| Pupnik | there were a total of 17 different add-on processors for the SNES | 16:48 |
| konttori_ | Yeah, it's quite a beast | 16:49 |
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| Pupnik | no, the DrSnes and pocketsnes on the gp2x don't use the 2nd cpu currently, there is a test code that does sound on it, but it's not working yet | 16:49 |
| konttori_ | ahh.. ok. Well, that | 16:50 |
| konttori_ | s better for you. | 16:50 |
| konttori_ | easier to port | 16:50 |
| Pupnik | you have 800? | 16:53 |
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| dev | konttori: hi | 17:11 |
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| konttori_ | Pupnik: Yeah | 17:16 |
| * konttori_ was having dinner | 17:17 | |
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| neostrider | hello folks | 19:07 |
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| kender | hi | 19:09 |
| neostrider | so kender, how is it going? | 19:09 |
| kender | neostrider, fine thanks, what about you? | 19:10 |
| neostrider | fine too | 19:11 |
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| nostferka | wep cracking on a pda? | 19:55 |
| b0unc3 | someone have encountered problems to use a non-default-icon in a .desktop file of a control panel applet ? | 19:58 |
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| sxpert | nostferka, should be doable shortly :D | 19:59 |
| osfameron | christ, even the web browser is buggy and unstable | 20:00 |
| osfameron | is it worth flashing my n800, mke it less flakey? | 20:00 |
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| nostferka | web browser unstable? | 20:03 |
| osfameron | doesn't like postin tet, eg sending webmail | 20:04 |
| osfameron | so it craps its pants and crashes | 20:04 |
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| nostferka | o well | 20:13 |
| nostferka | as long as i cna irc :D | 20:13 |
| osfameron | well, there is that | 20:15 |
| osfameron | when the browser doesn't crash it's pretty good.. | 20:15 |
| osfameron | fucker crashed again. i'm realy not impressed | 20:18 |
| osfameron | i know! i'll reboot! | 20:18 |
| nostferka | ->sxpert how shortly? | 20:21 |
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| sxpert | nostferka, considering how fast hardware is evolving :D | 20:22 |
| nostferka | but my palm already has wireless 802.11b | 20:22 |
| nostferka | and ive got a network sniffer | 20:22 |
| nostferka | i just need a wep cracker | 20:22 |
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| konttori_ | Hello all! | 20:58 |
| * konttori_ Just released New version of Media Converter. Check out the stuff on: http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.com/ | 21:01 | |
| konttori_ | 640x368 @ 14 fps on N800. | 21:01 |
| part | konttori_: do you need help with packaging? | 21:05 |
| konttori_ | part: for which platform? | 21:05 |
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| part | konttori_: err, sorry, yes, meant ukmp | 21:06 |
| konttori_ | Is there a problem in the current packaging of ukmp? | 21:06 |
| part | it's not very clean | 21:07 |
| konttori_ | ahh... well, if you have ideas on how to fix it, I'm listening! | 21:07 |
| part | from looking at the binary package alone | 21:07 |
| * konttori_ goes to watch survivors now though. Be back in 1 h. | 21:07 | |
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| konttori_ | What kinds on things did you notice in there that were unclean? | 21:09 |
| part | I didn't look at the packaging in any detail, just checked the contents of the binary .deb | 21:10 |
| ssvb | konttori_: can you try testing video encoding 512x384 (512x288) full fps for mplayer on N800? | 21:10 |
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| part | konttori_: removing all the cruft left by osx (.DS_Store & friends) would be a start | 21:11 |
| philn|home | also the /debian if it's still there | 21:13 |
| part | oh, nice :) | 21:14 |
| part | anyway, time for sauna | 21:14 |
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| user__ | /nick unique311 | 21:23 |
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| user__ | /nick unique311/subway's | 21:24 |
| user__ | /nick unique311/subway's | 21:25 |
| user__ | wtf | 21:25 |
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| unique31 | work sucks....rain sucks even more..... | 21:30 |
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| konttori_ | About the osx stuff, I might drop them at 1.0 final. But the crud doesn't cause any problems, thus I've kept them as it's easier to live with them. | 21:42 |
| konttori_ | ssvb: You mean adding 512x384 resolution ? | 21:43 |
| konttori_ | Sure. | 21:43 |
| konttori_ | Well, there is a resolutions.txt in the media converter and you can just change that. | 21:43 |
| konttori_ | If you have linux, you have to put that file to your home dir (if you just double click on the jar). | 21:43 |
| part | konttori_: all the .py files seem to be in /usr/bin, some of them look like libraries | 21:44 |
| konttori_ | ssvb: Is there something special about the 512 resolutions? | 21:44 |
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| konttori_ | part: So, you recommend putting them to usr/lib? | 21:45 |
| part | konttori_: oh, the package name is ugly, call it "ukmp" (all lowercase) instead | 21:45 |
| ssvb | konttori_: it is not special, it just seems to work fine for me and looks better than 400x240 | 21:45 |
| konttori_ | ssvb: good idea. I'll try it out now. | 21:45 |
| konttori_ | Oh, can't now. COmmercial break has ended. back later | 21:46 |
| ssvb | konttori_: I'll try encoding some more videos to test it better, maybe it will have to be lowered a bit | 21:46 |
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| konttori_ | ssvb: Forgot that resolutions txt isn't quite working for *all* resolutions. WIll make a few tests now. | 21:56 |
| konttori_ | ssvb: what would be a good stream rate? 768 kbps ok? | 21:57 |
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| ssvb | konttori_: I noticed that resolution affects performance much than bitrate, so bitrate is not that important, 768 should be ok | 21:58 |
| konttori_ | ssvb: 512x288 Looks great on default player as well. | 22:03 |
| konttori_ | I just re-installed thus, will have to reinstall mplayer to test as well. | 22:03 |
| konttori_ | is rc9 the latest? | 22:04 |
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| ssvb | konttori_: no, the latest is mplayer_1.0rc1-maemo.14.800 | 22:04 |
| konttori_ | ok. wasn't in the app repo. | 22:05 |
| ssvb | konttori_: it should be also available at bora extras repository already | 22:05 |
| konttori_ | and so it was. I just had to reload the repo info | 22:06 |
| konttori_ | so odd that it didn't do that automatically | 22:06 |
| trenka | ssvb: Sergey, mplayer for n800 is better then for 770 already? | 22:07 |
| konttori_ | Also, so odd that the OS itself doesn't every once in a while do autoupdates | 22:07 |
| konttori_ | yeah, 512 was great on the mplayer as well | 22:09 |
| ssvb | trenka: I think it is quite usable already and faster then 770 (because of faster hardware), but mplayer does not use full N800 potential yet and can be still improved | 22:09 |
| zuh | Nothing uses full N800 potential due to missing drivers... | 22:09 |
| konttori_ | ssvb: can you add the use of video sync soon? | 22:09 |
| konttori_ | ssvb: mplayer also played the 640x384 videos flawlessly. | 22:10 |
| ssvb | konttori_: it is used already, but looks like xv still has some issues | 22:10 |
| konttori_ | ssvb: Oh. It's still got some residual flickering issues. But not too bad. | 22:11 |
| ssvb | zuh: sure, but I was talking about the realistic potential which can be used with the current state of documentation available | 22:12 |
| ssvb | zuh: there is still room for improvement | 22:13 |
| * zuh was just grumbling again... ;) | 22:13 | |
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| trenka | ssvb: cool. will try. Are there any other n800/700 in Minsk? | 22:20 |
| * konttori_ tests 800x400 on mplayer | 22:21 | |
| ssvb | trenka: have no idea really, I have only seen one advertisement for selling used 770 in one of the local forums | 22:24 |
| konttori_ | cool. plays smoothly on 12 fps. bitrate will probably be much higher than my tested 768 | 22:24 |
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| konttori_ | Not that I even care for such high resolutions anymore. You'd need much bigger screen for such things to matter. | 22:27 |
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| Pupnik | ssvb: wana see some Xsp pron? | 22:29 |
| ssvb | trenka: they say N800 may become available in Russian shops soon, so N800 may become available here in Minsk some time later as well, not sure about the price though | 22:29 |
| ssvb | Pupnik: what about Xsp? | 22:30 |
| Pupnik | http://home.arcor.de/arnim.sauerbier/UQM_Xsp_SDL_Doubling_Bugs.avi | 22:30 |
| * b0unc3 IDEA 1.0 is out. https://garage.maemo.org/projects/idea/ | 22:30 | |
| konttori_ | Ok, I was mistaken. It's absolutely amazing to watch on that rez. | 22:31 |
| konttori_ | b0unc3: Amazing! | 22:31 |
| b0unc3 | konttori_: thanks | 22:32 |
| konttori_ | how does it retrieve the icons? I'll try installing it in a sec. I'd like uk mp to work well for your app | 22:32 |
| konttori_ | idea looks just the kinda app that should be in n800 by default. | 22:33 |
| Pupnik | keithp tried to do a good job | 22:34 |
| b0unc3 | konttori_: you can set the icons that you want, through a control panel applet | 22:34 |
| ssvb | Pupnik: try to reenable pixel doubling before every blit to screen | 22:34 |
| Pupnik | really? | 22:34 |
| Pupnik | ok | 22:34 |
| Pupnik | many things i haven't tried yet | 22:34 |
| konttori_ | b0unc3: any way of setting the icon by the app as default? | 22:35 |
| Pupnik | thanks ssvb /me bows | 22:35 |
| b0unc3 | konttori_: of course | 22:35 |
| b0unc3 | konttori_: can you see the vide-guide ? | 22:36 |
| konttori_ | what's that? | 22:37 |
| b0unc3 | I added an extra-tab on the garage page , for a usage-video-guide... is not visible ? | 22:38 |
| konttori_ | oh, now I saw it | 22:39 |
| konttori_ | cool | 22:39 |
| konttori_ | can you add scaling to the app? | 22:40 |
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| konttori_ | so that I could take a bit less space for the app. | 22:40 |
| konttori_ | Like the rss reader allows you to | 22:40 |
| Pupnik | konttori_: you disappeared when i asked you a question | 22:42 |
| Pupnik | will you test my snes 1.4 and 1.5 builds | 22:42 |
| konttori_ | Pupnik: Sure! | 22:42 |
| konttori_ | Where can I dl them? | 22:42 |
| b0unc3 | konttori_: not yet... but it's on my todo list | 22:43 |
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| Pupnik | konttori_: you have two minutes to ignore | 22:46 |
| Pupnik | hi sbaturzio | 22:47 |
| sbaturzio | Ciao to * | 22:47 |
| sbaturzio | :) | 22:47 |
| konttori_ | Pupnik: Did you get my messages? | 22:47 |
| Pupnik | konttori_: no sorry maybe irssi is being stupid | 22:48 |
| c0ffee | irssi isn't stupid! | 22:48 |
| Pupnik | i see nothing from konttori_ | 22:49 |
| Pupnik | and i have registered nick | 22:49 |
| Pupnik | send another message konttori_ | 22:49 |
| Pupnik | now i see it | 22:49 |
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| konttori_ | dolfun: works just fine! | 23:32 |
| dolfun | ok | 23:32 |
| dolfun | thx | 23:32 |
| dolfun | have fun with it, and send me a snes9x.conf that works with dpad, if you want to | 23:33 |
| konttori_ | dolfun. I'll do that tomorrow. | 23:33 |
| konttori_ | Can you email ping me to urho.konttori@gmail.com | 23:33 |
| dolfun | ok | 23:34 |
| dolfun | i have to lie down | 23:34 |
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