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| sp3000 | newly? that was a week ago | 00:00 |
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| LinuxApe | well,I'm a little sloooowwww | 00:01 |
| * timeless shrugs | 00:01 | |
| LinuxApe | opinions? | 00:01 |
| Tak|work | hey, I haven't flashed my fiancee's yet either | 00:01 |
| timeless | if you want a slow flash experience,don't upgrade ;-) | 00:01 |
| timeless | i mean, if you can't handle more than 2fps @youtube, the upgrade is definitely not for you :) | 00:02 |
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| LinuxApe | you must mean flash has improved | 00:03 |
| timeless | well, someone promissed it did | 00:03 |
| timeless | i don't use youtube | 00:03 |
| LinuxApe | any improvements to other apps? | 00:04 |
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| timeless | http://thoughtfix.blogspot.com/index.html | 00:07 |
| timeless | had an item on planet | 00:08 |
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| flo_n800 | hi | 00:10 |
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| jonek | hi flo | 00:18 |
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| jonek | anybody from the netherlands available? | 00:19 |
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| timeless | ok, i fixed a stupid regression :) | 00:22 |
| timeless | now i just need to figure out why my script can't count :( | 00:22 |
| Tak|work | no fingers | 00:22 |
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| timeless | wc -l says this file has 1547 lines | 00:23 |
| timeless | some other tool i'm using claims 1548 | 00:23 |
| Tak|work | grep -c '$' ? | 00:25 |
| timeless | they seem to have a difference of opinion about how EOF works | 00:26 |
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| * timeless cries | 00:27 | |
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| * timeless had some magical code and it didn't work | 00:28 | |
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| Knowledge_ | How come they have that new site for applications, i liked the old way they had since the 770, I can't find anything on garage...actually I don't know how to see a whole list on Garage... | 00:48 |
| Tak|work | I actually prefer the new app catalog | 00:48 |
| Tak|work | although granted, there are far too many entries with no homepage and no install file, which makes them useless | 00:49 |
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| Knowledge_ | yeah... | 00:49 |
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| Knowledge_ | is there a way of finding out what a "network error" is. I maen can I initiate a connection from xterm/ | 01:11 |
| Knowledge_ | ? | 01:11 |
| b0unc3 | Knowledge_: sure, use wireless tools | 01:13 |
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| Knowledge_ | I see | 01:13 |
| Knowledge_ | another thing to figure out | 01:14 |
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| Knowledge_ | iwlist wlan0 right? cause that's not working... | 01:22 |
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| b0unc3 | maybe, iwlist wlan0 scan | 01:24 |
| Knowledge_ | man, I feel like an ass sometimes | 01:25 |
| Streg | Knowledge_: linux will do that to you :) | 01:26 |
| Knowledge_ | wait, not that big of an ass...now it's saying interface doesn't support scanning...or no power management information | 01:27 |
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| b0unc3 | Knowledge_: ifconfig wlan0 up, first of all | 01:29 |
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| franck | does the 770 and 800 play ogg music? | 03:30 |
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| unique311 | there's an ogg player | 03:31 |
| franck | and how do you connect on GSM/GPRS network? | 03:31 |
| unique311 | check the applications link on meamo.org | 03:31 |
| unique311 | not sure about the second question | 03:32 |
| unique311 | you can connect to the internet via certain phones... | 03:32 |
| unique311 | i'll get ya links | 03:32 |
| unique311 | give me a sec | 03:32 |
| franck | I need to remove the standard os and put maemo on this? | 03:33 |
| unique311 | isn't the standard os maemo | 03:34 |
| unique311 | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/ | 03:35 |
| unique311 | try that | 03:35 |
| unique311 | all your answers should be answered | 03:35 |
| franck | in short what the diff between the 770 and 800? | 03:35 |
| unique311 | you have the n800? | 03:35 |
| Tak | 30 | 03:35 |
| franck | I read the Maemo FAQ | 03:35 |
| franck | I have none, wondering if I should buy.... | 03:35 |
| unique311 | n800 | 03:36 |
| timeless | practically speaking the 770 isn't supported by nokia anymore. and the n800 coosts more, is lighter and includes a camera | 03:36 |
| unique311 | i'm loving it | 03:36 |
| franck | and more battery life? | 03:36 |
| timeless | not if you use rhapsody | 03:36 |
| timeless | but otherwise, probably | 03:37 |
| franck | rhapsody? | 03:37 |
| timeless | real rhapsody | 03:37 |
| timeless | my battery life w/ that is probably 30-60mins | 03:37 |
| franck | which is? | 03:37 |
| timeless | great app, but really bad for battery :( | 03:37 |
| franck | what is rhapsody? | 03:37 |
| timeless | google is your friend | 03:37 |
| timeless | it's 3:30am and i'm not about to explain everything i write | 03:38 |
| timeless | sommerfeld: they're not the only group like that | 03:40 |
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| Tak | franck: what will you use one for? | 03:43 |
| franck | Tak: as a pda and to check my e-mails... | 03:44 |
| franck | do some OO writer type of work | 03:45 |
| Tak | there's no OOo port | 03:46 |
| Tak | and what do you mean, 'as a pda' ? | 03:46 |
| franck | for calendar, I need a text writer and an e-mail client | 03:46 |
| franck | but it seems I would have prefered to find one with GSM 4band capabilities... | 03:47 |
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| Tak | the calendar sync and onboard email client are pretty primitive too | 03:48 |
| Tak | it's not really meant for PIM, and as such isn't really polished in that respect yet | 03:51 |
| franck | so what is it for? | 03:51 |
| Tak | general internet stuff mainly | 03:52 |
| Tak | being an ultraportable linux box, etc | 03:52 |
| franck | I see... may be I will wait a little bit, that the perfect stuff comes out... like openmoko.org ? | 03:53 |
| * Tak shrugs | 03:53 | |
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| Markov | hey. why aren't a LOT of apps in the downloads.maemo area? | 07:16 |
| Markov | if i install something via garage, it won't get updated automatically via application installer on n800, right? | 07:17 |
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| mikemorrison | not unless you click on the "click to install" button | 07:24 |
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| Tak | yay, infinite reboot loop! | 07:43 |
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| febb | hi all | 08:12 |
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| makuchaku | Morning all :) | 09:49 |
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| konttori_ | morning! | 11:00 |
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| mikemorrison | anyone wanna try my program? | 11:11 |
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| AD-N770 | good morning | 11:22 |
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| konttori_ | mikemorrison: what is your program? | 11:30 |
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| mikemorrison | it is this: http://mike.yi.org/projects/quiver/wiki/QuiverForMaemo | 11:36 |
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| konttori_ | oh. quiver looks sweet | 11:41 |
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| meite | hello, I have a problem with gstreamer and a filesink. Is it possible to change the filesink's "location" property on the fly? I have tried to put the filesink into null,paused and ready state but every single time I am getting the following warning: Changing the `location' property on filesink when a file is open not supported. Anyone seen this kind of error? | 11:44 |
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| bedboi | hi there. | 11:51 |
| keesj | Hi | 11:55 |
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| florian | hi all | 11:57 |
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| lardman | morning all | 12:05 |
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| konttori_ | is quiver fast? | 12:13 |
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| mikemorrison | hehe.. | 12:14 |
| mikemorrison | i don't know about fast, but it sure is quick! | 12:14 |
| konttori_ | Looks very nice. I assume it can handle even large libraries with out much proboblem | 12:15 |
| mikemorrison | i think it is faster than the other option. | 12:15 |
| konttori_ | problem even | 12:15 |
| mikemorrison | yeah. it can handle plenty! did you try it? | 12:15 |
| konttori_ | Does it support slideshowing? | 12:15 |
| mikemorrison | yes. it does. | 12:15 |
| konttori_ | Nope. I'm at work ATM. so, cannot | 12:15 |
| konttori_ | very cool then. Would be also cool if it could be set to automatically show image in 800x480 full width and height. sort of autoscale/crop... For slideshow I mean | 12:16 |
| mikemorrison | yes. i suppose that could be useful. that option would require a bit of work... | 12:18 |
| * lardman reads through 3 weeks' of emails, nice to see new n800 image :) | 12:21 | |
| konttori_ | ALso, if you could put the screen always on when in slideshow mode | 12:22 |
| mikemorrison | it does! | 12:22 |
| konttori_ | That way, one could put family photos on rotation on a table for family visits ... use as a picture frame. | 12:22 |
| konttori_ | mikemorrison: Rock on! | 12:22 |
| mikemorrison | i just did that recently. it was really annoying when i was trying to show people my pictures and the screen kept going off. | 12:23 |
| mikemorrison | it loops too | 12:23 |
| mikemorrison | grr! why don't any of the 'click to install' packages work from downloads.maemo.org? "application package not found." | 12:27 |
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| cfh | have someone try to install minisip client voip on nokia | 13:53 |
| cfh | ? | 13:53 |
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| kulve | nice, "Upgrading from maemo 3.0 to maemo 3.1 can be done with "apt-get dist-upgrade"" | 16:14 |
| kulve | actually "normal", but "nice" on maemo.. | 16:14 |
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| Jaffa | kulve: yeah, I noticed that - excellent | 16:17 |
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| koen|lab | the decay of OSS standards | 16:18 |
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| VRe | Claws emailprog seems quite nice already, only it takes a bit with my Maemo-inbox with it's 12000 messages.. | 16:44 |
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| kulve | apt-get dist-upgrade went pretty nicely. Few hickups, nothing too serious | 17:06 |
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| robtaylor | jamey, aCiDBaSe: this might be useful to you : http://floopily.org/~robtaylor/scratchbox-devkit-debian_1.0.7_i386.deb | 17:29 |
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| robtaylor | its a debian devkit with newer cdbs, devhelper, devscripts and intltool | 17:31 |
| kulve | I assume nobody uses FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec) on n800? | 17:31 |
| robtaylor | thanks to jumpula :) | 17:32 |
| jamey | robtaylor, that sounds very helpful! | 17:33 |
| robtaylor | jamey: yeah, i'm hpoing i can rebuild all my python packages without chanages now | 17:33 |
| robtaylor | i havn't checked it out yet, so be careful | 17:33 |
| robtaylor | you'll need to regerneate your virtual packages | 17:35 |
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| robtaylor | (see generate_virtual in maemo-sdk-install_3.0.sh) | 17:35 |
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| robtaylor | or, indeed recreate your SDK install | 17:36 |
| robtaylor | jumpula: i just had a thought, it might make sense to be able to build point-versions of the debian devkit | 17:40 |
| robtaylor | jumpula: or maybe have a makefile target that does $VERSION-$DATE | 17:40 |
| robtaylor | for the deb version | 17:41 |
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| jumpula | robtaylor: bear in mind that the devkit is still experimental | 17:56 |
| jumpula | planning to update all debian tools to etch | 17:56 |
| jumpula | robtaylor: we do build snapshots with date on version string on each commit | 17:57 |
| jumpula | robtaylor: did you build it yourself? | 17:59 |
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| zuh | Yay, back to 4GB of SDHC sweetness | 18:56 |
| mgedmin | yum yum | 18:57 |
| VRe | where where.. :) | 18:57 |
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| zuh | http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-March/009368.html | 19:06 |
| zuh | There | 19:06 |
| zuh | :) | 19:06 |
| zuh | do note the disclaimer tho | 19:06 |
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| VRe | zuh: nice.. I'm moving my 12000 message Maemo-inbox to archive so I can look up small incoming boxes fast via Claws so can't read the mails now :) | 19:10 |
| mgedmin | it took me a week to synchronize a 16000 message move from one imap folder to another with offlineimap... | 19:11 |
| VRe | Yeah, I think I'll do next folder with "mv" | 19:12 |
| VRe | .. and then "touch" to make empty folder waiting | 19:13 |
| BogBrother | zuh: can 770 do 4GB? | 19:14 |
| VRe | No, 770 eats only MMC | 19:14 |
| VRe | Well, if there is 4G MMC? | 19:14 |
| * BogBrother has 2GB and it is basically enough | 19:14 | |
| VRe | I got 1G MMC and even that is quite enough | 19:15 |
| BogBrother | until you dump films and big games on it | 19:15 |
| VRe | on trips 4G is nice as you can have a load of video with you | 19:15 |
| BogBrother | yes, anything serious doesn't need so much :) | 19:16 |
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| VRe | Maybe if you leech gigabytes of maps from google :) | 19:16 |
| BogBrother | btw for video, one good solution is to use mencoder to transcode during the copy | 19:19 |
| BogBrother | that way the mmc write speed typically matches the encoding speed, and you don't serialize steps unnecessarily | 19:19 |
| VRe | Goes faster if you use external reader than thru usb-770 | 19:21 |
| VRe | I have mythtv dumping last days recordings to smaller avis which I then can move to the device | 19:22 |
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| BogBrother | VRe: i hated mythtv setup and never finished. Is there now a mythtv client for nokia? | 19:27 |
| * bill20r3 drools | 19:27 | |
| VRe | BogBrother: No | 19:27 |
| VRe | I just run small hacked together script to pack the programs | 19:28 |
| BogBrother | http://gmyth.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page | 19:31 |
| BogBrother | VRe: yeah, for portable viewing - but it should be possible via frontend at home now | 19:31 |
| BogBrother | "Last week I promised that GMyth would handle all that stuff from MythTV’s remote transcoding and here it is." | 19:33 |
| BogBrother | looks like the 770 will become a feasible killer tv/pvr frontend after all :D | 19:33 |
| VRe | looks like.. | 19:34 |
| zuh | "Installing GMyth in a Nokia 770 | 19:35 |
| zuh | ( ) " | 19:35 |
| zuh | :) | 19:36 |
| BogBrother | MoRpHeUz: good job | 19:36 |
| VRe | hmpf.. mplayer doesn't want to play 720x576 video thru xv :) | 19:36 |
| BogBrother | hahaha | 19:36 |
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| VRe | upscaling check, downscaling .. | 19:37 |
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| BogBrother | gonna be really hard for someone to build something that will make me replace my 770 | 19:39 |
| VRe | hehe.. mplayer -vf scale=360:288 didn't really do it.. scaling takes too much cpu | 19:40 |
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| mgedmin | well, the N800 did replace my 770 quite easily | 20:01 |
| mgedmin | although the shape of the 770 was more convenient for holding and pressing zoom buttons | 20:02 |
| zuh | Too bad the N800 does have tradeoffs, it's not simply a 770+goodness. | 20:03 |
| mgedmin | doesn't almost everything have tradeoffs? | 20:04 |
| mgedmin | palm tungsten had tradeoffs when I replaced my palm m500 | 20:04 |
| mgedmin | 770 had tradeoffs when I replaced my tungsten | 20:04 |
| VRe | I do my calendaring still on my sony clie | 20:05 |
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| sbaturzio | Aloha! | 20:23 |
| kender | hey sbaturzio | 20:27 |
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| sbaturzio | kender: Ciao | 20:28 |
| kender | hehe | 20:28 |
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| s-ndh-c_ | what bt keyboards are known to work well with the n770? | 20:57 |
| s-ndh-c_ | dont want to buy something and later find out its incompatible or something | 20:57 |
| mgedmin | all those that support the bluetooth HID profile should work | 20:58 |
| mgedmin | those that use the serial profile won't | 20:58 |
| mgedmin | (but I think there's a package that adds support for some of those) | 20:58 |
| s-ndh-c_ | thx | 20:59 |
| s-ndh-c_ | :) | 20:59 |
| s-ndh-c_ | and iam in search for a new bt cellphone, are those nokia e series anygood? | 20:59 |
| s-ndh-c_ | i had time to play with a e50 at work, but the menu structure seems to be very strange | 21:00 |
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| jku | s-ndh-c_, unpatriotically I've found the Samsung Z500 a pretty good companion for 779/n800 | 21:08 |
| jku | 770 even | 21:09 |
| jku | 3G, bt, 100grams -- those were the important things for me | 21:10 |
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| wacky_ | hey :) | 21:10 |
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| wacky_ | it's been a while since I updated my Nokia 770, what's the latest stuff for it ? | 21:13 |
| wacky_ | can the OS 2007 run on it ? | 21:13 |
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| s-ndh-c_ | wacky_: there is some hacked version that runs on the n770 | 21:15 |
| s-ndh-c_ | but its only for development purposes | 21:15 |
| wacky_ | ok, so what's the latest things for the n770 ? | 21:15 |
| etrunko | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/os2007on770/ | 21:15 |
| wacky_ | was the support completely dropped for the device ?! will we stay in 2006 forever with this device :P | 21:15 |
| s-ndh-c_ | i dont think its thought to run 2007, as it takes advantage of stuff the n770 doesnt have | 21:16 |
| s-ndh-c_ | i think i will buy a n800 seen, just after i got me a new phone and a new notebook | 21:17 |
| s-ndh-c_ | *soon* | 21:17 |
| wacky_ | well, I've seen a couple of stuff: Video and Flash performance and quality, Browser stability updated on OS 2007... | 21:18 |
| wacky_ | I'd really like better browser stability, even if I *only* own a N770 ! | 21:18 |
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| wacky_ | is there a SIP phone ready-to-use developed lately, for the n770 ? | 21:22 |
| Tak|work | heh, video performance on the n800 is just catching up to the 770 | 21:22 |
| wacky_ | should I upgrade from: OS 2006 Edition version 1.2006.26-8 to OS 2006 Edition version 3.2006.49-2 ? | 21:23 |
| keesj | os2007on770 workes great | 21:23 |
| wacky_ | keesj - is there enough new stuff to be worth the upgrade ? | 21:23 |
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| keesj | yes, it is a great improvement IMHO | 21:24 |
| * Tak|work will be flashing 2007on770 this weekend | 21:24 | |
| Tak|work | a self-inflicted reboot loop is a great upgrade motivator | 21:24 |
| keesj | keyhandling , and other small stuff that just make it great | 21:24 |
| keesj | I for example installed the gmail applet now | 21:25 |
| keesj | I whish sound was working better. | 21:25 |
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| wacky_ | keesj - there is regression with sound ? | 21:26 |
| keesj | it feels faster then it2006 and looks beter. | 21:26 |
| wacky_ | is there a SIP phone working on any of those platforms ? | 21:26 |
| keesj | wacky_ som stuff did not work , have not checkeout out why , I think it's the dsp | 21:26 |
| Tak|work | what kind of stuff? | 21:26 |
| keesj | the flash / and defautl audio player work , I did not try canola but xmoto and penpop did not work they nagged about missing "missing mp3 dsp" stuff? | 21:27 |
| Tak|work | ah | 21:28 |
| wacky_ | ok.. I'll try flashing with the os2007on770 :)) heeheee :P | 21:28 |
| keesj | I even prefered the 770 with it2007-1 over the n800 , but now it2007-2 it out. it's a harder match | 21:29 |
| wacky_ | what should I backup anything before flashing ? | 21:29 |
| keesj | did 770 kinda supported sdhc? | 21:29 |
| Tak|work | no, you couldn't even fit an sd card | 21:29 |
| Tak|work | unless there's sdhc-micro or something | 21:30 |
| wacky_ | if I run a backup, can I restore it on OS 2007 ? | 21:30 |
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| keesj | and it still feels like baterly life and stability of the 770 is beter. | 21:31 |
| keesj | (even with it2007) | 21:31 |
| mgedmin | wacky_: yes | 21:31 |
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| wacky_ | good | 21:33 |
| unique311 | why i love my n800 | 21:33 |
| wacky_ | and I guess I'll have to re-add my application catalogs ? | 21:33 |
| mgedmin | yes | 21:33 |
| mgedmin | or you could do what I did and forget about the catalogs | 21:33 |
| mgedmin | just click on .install files | 21:33 |
| unique311 | granule, where can i download flash cards for it | 21:34 |
| wacky_ | what are .install files ? | 21:34 |
| mgedmin | a small text file that tells the app installer where to find the catalog and what package to install | 21:34 |
| wacky_ | and where do you get those ? | 21:34 |
| mgedmin | http://downloads.maemo.org/ links to them | 21:34 |
| wacky_ | oh good :) | 21:34 |
| mgedmin | also, I've made a list for my own convenience at http://mg.pov.lt/770/reflash-n800.html | 21:34 |
| mgedmin | the green "install" blobs on downloads.maemo.org are what you click on in opera to get a package installed | 21:35 |
| wacky_ | woohoo :) OS2007 installing :P | 21:39 |
| wacky_ | so with OS2007on770 installed, can I install 2006 .deb files ? | 21:40 |
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| keesj | great the sdk is there!!! did anybody try it? | 21:41 |
| keesj | wacky_: no 2007 .deb files | 21:41 |
| Tak|work | hmm - what about the lack of stuff like vfp? | 21:41 |
| keesj | Tak|work: that was more a glic feature | 21:42 |
| keesj | I am not sure a all, about what I am saying about the fp | 21:43 |
| Tak|work | I know some bora packages are built with vfp enabled | 21:43 |
| keesj | what is vfp? | 21:43 |
| Tak|work | and it can't just be a glibc thing, because it's a gcc option | 21:43 |
| Tak|work | vector floating point | 21:44 |
| keesj | but you have to choose between small binary thumb mode ant floating point | 21:44 |
| Tak|work | right | 21:44 |
| keesj | google does not know vfp very good | 21:45 |
| keesj | but it's hardware floating point | 21:45 |
| Tak|work | right | 21:45 |
| keesj | Tak|work: what package you do know? | 21:45 |
| keesj | I am refering to this disc on the mailing list http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-February/008403.html | 21:46 |
| Tak|work | yeah, also http://syslog.movial.fi/archives/46-N800-VFP-or-not-to-VFP.html | 21:47 |
| Tak|work | the bora build of xmame uses vfp | 21:48 |
| keesj | I guess xmoto (and ode) would love vfp | 21:48 |
| keesj | I have do eat... | 21:48 |
| wacky_ | wow, 2007 is snappy :) | 21:49 |
| wacky_ | and nice :) | 21:49 |
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| zuh | on 770? | 21:50 |
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| thoughtfix | Hello hello | 21:59 |
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| wacky_ | zuh - yeah :) | 22:13 |
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| melmoth_ | GRumble, i successfully dist-upgraded to bora3.1 on x86 | 22:25 |
| melmoth_ | but i have the following error on the armel target: | 22:26 |
| melmoth_ | Unpacking bsdutils (from .../bsdutils_1%3a2.12p-4sarge1.osso2_armel.deb) ... | 22:26 |
| melmoth_ | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/bsdutils_1%3a2.12p-4sarge1.osso2_armel.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/logger', which is also in package busybox | 22:26 |
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| melmoth_ | looks like bsdutils is badly packaged for armel...is there a way to dist-upgrade while not installing it ? | 22:29 |
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| sp3000 | you could --force-overwrite and hope nothing funny happens | 22:30 |
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| melmoth_ | let s hope nothing funny happens then | 22:32 |
| kulve | I think I've overwritten that one.. | 22:32 |
| melmoth_ | hmmm, no such option :) | 22:33 |
| sp3000 | dpkg -i --forc... .../bsdutils_1%3a2.12p-4sarge1.osso2_armel.deb | 22:33 |
| melmoth_ | dpkg: error processing --force-overwrite (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory | 22:38 |
| melmoth_ | the file is /var/cache/apt/archives/bsdutils_1%3a2.12p-4sarge1.osso2_armel.deb | 22:38 |
| melmoth_ | and its there | 22:38 |
| zuh | -i should be right before the package... ;) | 22:38 |
| melmoth_ | [sbox-SDK_ARMEL: ~] > fakeroot dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/bsdutils_1%3a2.12p-4sarge1.osso2_armel.deb --force-overwrite | 22:39 |
| melmoth_ | that s how i try it out | 22:39 |
| melmoth_ | trying to see what is no such file with strace now | 22:40 |
| kulve | Usage: dpkg [<option> ...] <command> | 22:40 |
| kulve | dpkg --force-o -i file | 22:40 |
| kulve | try that | 22:40 |
| thoughtfix | Hmm | 22:40 |
| thoughtfix | Navicore has 36 hours to meet the "March 2007" release for the N800. | 22:40 |
| * thoughtfix waits | 22:41 | |
| melmoth_ | [pid 9663] stat64("--force-overwrite", 0xbfaac3b0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) | 22:41 |
| melmoth_ | it thinks y option is a file ? | 22:41 |
| zuh | To be more exact: -i should be just before the package, but after all other options | 22:43 |
| melmoth_ | that did the trick kulve thanks | 22:43 |
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| sp3000 | zuh: weird, I'm pretty sure I've used -i --f.. like all the time | 22:46 |
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| sp3000 | maybe it's stricter in some versions | 22:46 |
| * sp3000 shrugs | 22:46 | |
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| sp3000 | oh, right -i pkg --f... won't work | 22:48 |
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| sp3000 | but it doesn't happen to care about the option order | 22:48 |
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| sp3000 | just no options after nonoptions | 22:48 |
| mgedmin | doesn't busybox have a simpler and smaller version of dpkg? | 22:49 |
| mgedmin | doesn't maemo use that instead of the real one? | 22:49 |
| mgedmin | no, I must have been dreaming | 22:50 |
| thoughtfix | Hmm ... My Roomba shows up today. I wonder if I can hack it to be controlled by my N800. | 22:50 |
| kulve | I think it might be too simple.. It could install basic packages, but iirc it had some real problems on real use.. | 22:50 |
| melmoth_ | well, the 2 funny pygtk beahviour i experience are not automagically vanished in this new version... | 22:52 |
| melmoth_ | and i was not able to reproduce the one i try to make a test case for. | 22:52 |
| melmoth_ | so, still not open a bug :( | 22:53 |
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| melmoth_ | basically it s when i refill a treeview that was already filled once | 22:54 |
| melmoth_ | core show it dies there: | 22:54 |
| melmoth_ | #0 0xb767a850 in gtk_tree_view_set_fixed_height_mode () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 | 22:54 |
| melmoth_ | any idea how to easily install needed debug symbol to investigate further ? | 22:55 |
| melmoth_ | hmmm libgtk2.0-dbg :) | 22:58 |
| melmoth_ | hmm, it does not want to install neither.... | 23:00 |
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| etrunko | http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9703424-1.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=Crave | 23:09 |
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| ajturner | thoughtfix - re roomba & n800 - yeah | 23:50 |
| keesj | re | 23:51 |
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