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| konttori | tigert: Once you get it working, let me know what you think of it and what improvements you can pinpoint | 00:00 |
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| konttori | tigert: yeah. At least a few mp3:s. | 00:01 |
| konttori | How come you don't have music on your device? | 00:01 |
| konttori | Oh, by the way, I got my 770 back I can return yours when I see you again. | 00:02 |
| tigert | yeah | 00:02 |
| tigert | konttori: I have free 3G and last.fm | 00:02 |
| tigert | need I say more? :) | 00:02 |
| tigert | sure I do have music on the device when I need :) | 00:02 |
| tigert | but I also have an ipod | 00:03 |
| konttori | Umm... I suppose not. I suppose you guys working with unlimited 3g kinda get spoiled pretty easily | 00:03 |
| tigert | you could say that ;D | 00:03 |
| konttori | tigert: that explains it | 00:03 |
| daniels | yeah, turns out it's really, really, really expensive when you're doing it in australia, though | 00:03 |
| tigert | ehheeh | 00:03 |
| tigert | got someone coughing about the bill? | 00:03 |
| daniels | my last phone bill was a new record, almost triple what i'd ever managed before | 00:03 |
| daniels | tigert: i don't know what scares me more: the amount of the bill, or the fact i only noticed when i looked at our intranet homepage ... no-one's mentioned it at all. | 00:04 |
| tigert | daniels: hey, on your phone, "My Own" > "Log" -> Packet data | 00:04 |
| tigert | how much received and sent? | 00:04 |
| tigert | its a 30 day log | 00:04 |
| konttori | I had once 600 euro gprs bill. Fortunately my employer paid it. But anyway. Horrible price for a few hours of gprs usage at the summer house | 00:04 |
| tigert | konttori: yeah | 00:04 |
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| daniels | tigert: don't have it in the log? only the calls | 00:04 |
| tigert | I requested flatrate for my phone | 00:04 |
| tigert | daniels: quit it first | 00:05 |
| daniels | konttori: i did well over that | 00:05 |
| tigert | if you had log running | 00:05 |
| tigert | daniels: and run the log again | 00:05 |
| tigert | it seems a bit silly app | 00:05 |
| daniels | tigert: oh _christ_ that's horrible | 00:05 |
| konttori | daniels: way to go! | 00:05 |
| tigert | daniels: the amount or the ui? :) | 00:05 |
| daniels | tigert: only 790MB received, but i came back from .au at about the start of feb | 00:05 |
| tigert | daniels: sent: 584 MB, recvd: 3.97GB | 00:06 |
| tigert | ;-o | 00:06 |
| daniels | nice! | 00:06 |
| tigert | but I somehow think this is since I got the phone | 00:07 |
| tigert | since no fricken way it can be 4 gigs in a month | 00:07 |
| tigert | I dont use my device THAT much | 00:07 |
| konttori | listening to radio? 128 kbps? | 00:07 |
| tigert | yea, but I dont really do it THAT often | 00:08 |
| tigert | but it pulls kb nicely | 00:08 |
| daniels | tigert: it's definitely not for the lifetime of the phone | 00:08 |
| guerby | hmm, when clicking on the battery in 2007.10 there is a popup with estimated battery life, was this popup there before? | 00:08 |
| daniels | tigert: i used to dist-upgrade over it when my dsl was gone for about 3 weeks | 00:08 |
| tigert | guerby: no | 00:08 |
| daniels | guerby: it's always been in itos2007 | 00:08 |
| daniels | iirc | 00:08 |
| tigert | daniels: :) | 00:08 |
| tigert | guerby: yeah, it wasnt in os2006 | 00:08 |
| guerby | daniels, funny I don't remember it | 00:08 |
| guerby | daniels, BTW, is there a /proc or /sys file somewhere with the current battery reading? | 00:09 |
| guerby | or a quick C/python hack | 00:09 |
| konttori | tigert: once you get the music on you N800, open the net connection first and then open media player. It'll download (and cache) the artwork for your music. | 00:09 |
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| konttori | Smooth scrolling needs over 20 albums on the system. Smooth scroll is drag scrolling. It's pretty cool. | 00:10 |
| Jaffa | konttori: can you make the link clickable again, please. | 00:11 |
| konttori | I just updated it again. Should work now | 00:11 |
| konttori | http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.com/2007/03/new-media-player-for-n800-it-770.html | 00:12 |
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| konttori | damn, updating a blog apparently looses comments for that post in blogger. | 00:13 |
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| maddler | konttori: open your blog on MaemoPeople then! :D | 00:14 |
| konttori | Jaffa: Oh, please test the new version. I tried to make it work even for people with tiny music librarys. | 00:14 |
| konttori | maddler: how do I do that? | 00:14 |
| tigert | hm, it crashes | 00:14 |
| tigert | whhats the executable name? | 00:14 |
| konttori | Might do it if it's easy | 00:14 |
| konttori | python /usr/bin/MediaCenter | 00:14 |
| maddler | konttori: simply write me (maddler@maemopeople.org) a mail... | 00:14 |
| maddler | and I'll be happy to create your blog on MP :D | 00:15 |
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| konttori | tigert: Might be related to python 2.5 I really need to test that. It's a shame you can only have python 2.4 OR 2.5 | 00:15 |
| Jaffa | konttori: album display screen looks a lot better; font size shrinks in CD listing when an item is selected; no pause/play/next/prev controls anymore; like the default fullscreen; escape should do something; volume nice and loud. | 00:15 |
| * Jaffa has 2.5 and didn't notice any problems (apart from the one you've noticed) | 00:16 | |
| maddler | btw... leaving now... | 00:16 |
| konttori | Jaffa: oh. then it must be something else | 00:16 |
| konttori | I dropped the play next previous buttons because I thought they only mess the UI. | 00:16 |
| tigert | File "/usr/bin/MediaCenter", line 826, in getAlbumCovers | 00:16 |
| tigert | if (not(found)): | 00:16 |
| tigert | UnboundLocalError: local variable 'found' referenced before assi gnment | 00:16 |
| konttori | The rocker left, right do the prev next and middle button works play / pause | 00:17 |
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| Jaffa | konttori: maybe, but then what's the obvious way to stop the loud music waking up Jaffa Jr... ah. | 00:17 |
| * Jaffa beds | 00:17 | |
| konttori | tigert: thanks. I've now fixed that. | 00:18 |
| unique311 | just install the mediacenter...looks reall good konttori | 00:18 |
| konttori | I'll make installer, upload that. | 00:18 |
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| unique311 | crashed on me.... | 00:18 |
| unique311 | crashes when i touch the screen with the stylus | 00:19 |
| tigert | konttori: cool | 00:20 |
| konttori | https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/1136/Urho-Konttoris-MediaCenter-1.0preview3.deb | 00:20 |
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| konttori | Updated blog | 00:22 |
| konttori | http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.com/2007/03/new-media-player-for-n800-it-770.html | 00:22 |
| unique311 | your mediacenter starts, and goes thru my tracks, and then crashes.. | 00:22 |
| unique311 | ? | 00:22 |
| tigert | now it crashed when I switched track with "right" rocker key | 00:23 |
| tigert | but it ran! | 00:23 |
| tigert | and showed some album art | 00:23 |
| unique311 | do i need python 2.4 or 2.5? | 00:23 |
| konttori | Hmm.. Did you first select an album. | 00:24 |
| konttori | unique311: I have tested on 2.4 only. 2.5 *should* work, but might not. | 00:24 |
| tigert | I dont know | 00:24 |
| tigert | I clicked something | 00:24 |
| tigert | and it started playing | 00:24 |
| tigert | pressed zoom keys to lower volume | 00:25 |
| tigert | then next to change tune | 00:25 |
| tigert | and crash | 00:25 |
| konttori | tigert: zoom keys are not working. I would like to get them to change volume, but I haven't gotten around that yet. | 00:26 |
| guerby | first reboot by removing the battery, I was trying to watch a google video ... | 00:26 |
| konttori | tigert: how much music do you have on the device? | 00:27 |
| tigert | 2 cds now | 00:29 |
| tigert | not much | 00:29 |
| tigert | I have too much oggs on my server :P | 00:29 |
| konttori | Ahh... might be related to that. I'll try to test with just a few albums | 00:29 |
| tigert | I'll sync my U2 over | 00:30 |
| tigert | but it seems to wrok | 00:31 |
| tigert | doesnt crash now | 00:31 |
| tigert | but hey | 00:31 |
| tigert | make the fonts BIGGER | 00:31 |
| tigert | Imagine going jogging | 00:31 |
| tigert | you poke it with your hamfisted fingers | 00:31 |
| konttori | umm... which fonts? | 00:31 |
| tigert | everything is so small :) | 00:31 |
| tigert | think ipod with 32px fonts | 00:31 |
| tigert | so I can just poke with fingers through the app | 00:32 |
| konttori | Yeah, that's why you have the albums instead of a tiny line. Album selection is easy. | 00:32 |
| tigert | yeah | 00:32 |
| tigert | true | 00:32 |
| konttori | I agree that the song selection should be as well. | 00:32 |
| tigert | perhaps it would be nice to just display a nicely scrollable grid of album art | 00:32 |
| konttori | But I figured that there needs to be some compromise in being able to see the songs. | 00:32 |
| tigert | and click one -> it does some nifty anim to zoom in there | 00:32 |
| tigert | yeah | 00:32 |
| tigert | did you do python before? | 00:33 |
| konttori | nope | 00:33 |
| tigert | ie, was it hard to learn the gfx stuff? | 00:33 |
| konttori | nope | 00:33 |
| Sonej | SDHC cards is not supported with the current kernel? I need to flash it, or Am i wrong? | 00:33 |
| daniels | guerby: no idea, sorry | 00:33 |
| konttori | pygame is really easy | 00:33 |
| guerby | daniels, tried the wiki search, nothing found, will ask the list | 00:34 |
| konttori | But 800x480 screen updates are quite heavy and it's hard to do smooth scrolling when you have 12 albums on the screen + then emerging 4 albums. | 00:34 |
| tigert | konttori: yeah | 00:34 |
| daniels | guerby: try just poking into /sys ... | 00:35 |
| daniels | Sonej: there is no sdhc support for 2007.10-6 yet | 00:35 |
| dolfun | bloatware is it's own punishment | 00:35 |
| konttori | I did try 6 albums (like in the iphone - in vertical line). That was smooth. | 00:35 |
| daniels | it's not in the official image, and no-one's made a custom image | 00:35 |
| konttori | But then I thought that this is better way to access the music. And went for the 12 + 4 + 4 model instead. | 00:35 |
| Sonej | thnx daniels | 00:35 |
| konttori | And thought that rocker use would rock on the 12 visible albums model. | 00:36 |
| Sonej | Thinking about what cards to buy | 00:36 |
| guerby | daniels, I tried but did not find anything | 00:36 |
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| unique311 | Konttori should i restart my device after the install? | 00:39 |
| daniels | guerby: okay, it's probably a dbus call to mce, then | 00:39 |
| daniels | or bme | 00:39 |
| daniels | i can never remember how the crazy architecture works | 00:39 |
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| konttori | unique311: nope | 00:41 |
| konttori | Just install the latest version. It should work fine after that | 00:41 |
| guerby | daniels, mce bme whatever :) | 00:41 |
| unique311 | ok | 00:41 |
| konttori | unique311: Is it still crashing on your system? | 00:41 |
| unique311 | it crashes on one track i have | 00:41 |
| unique311 | going to delete the track and see if thats it | 00:42 |
| konttori | but others work? | 00:42 |
| unique311 | while loading the tracks | 00:42 |
| unique311 | it crashes on this ocean's 12 track | 00:42 |
| konttori | What's the title? | 00:42 |
| unique311 | tell you in a bit | 00:42 |
| konttori | Can you see that crash in xterm or where? | 00:42 |
| unique311 | yen on a carousel | 00:43 |
| konttori | Might be the mp3 library problem when loading the ID3 tags | 00:43 |
| konttori | does it have a yen sign? | 00:43 |
| unique311 | no | 00:43 |
| unique311 | 13 yen on a carousel OST | 00:43 |
| konttori | ahh.. Might be just corrupt ID3 tag...... Or just poor coding from me... ;) | 00:43 |
| konttori | Can you send that file to me in email? urho.konttori@gmail.com | 00:44 |
| konttori | I can try to debug it a bit. | 00:44 |
| unique311 | k | 00:44 |
| * konttori must go to be now though | 00:44 | |
| konttori | thanks! | 00:44 |
| unique311 | sending now | 00:45 |
| unique311 | crashes on another one while loading..lol | 00:47 |
| unique311 | guess ill just send you the ones it crash on | 00:47 |
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| unique311 | kontorri it works | 00:52 |
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| mboes | hi everyone, does anyone know what it takes to write a new input method for Maemo? | 01:00 |
| mboes | i believe you have to write a new GTK input module | 01:00 |
| sp3000 | hrm, these apps don't seem to care for id3v2mux bits from sound-juicer | 01:00 |
| mboes | but Maemo seems to have its own machinery to handle input as well | 01:00 |
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| thoughtfix | *sigh* I love you all. Just wanted to get that out. | 01:20 |
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| bill20r3 | hugz | 01:21 |
| * thoughtfix feels it | 01:21 | |
| tigert | :) | 01:23 |
| thoughtfix | It is indeed a good time to be an internet tablet owner. | 01:24 |
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| thoughtfix | I scoured all four of Phoenix's closing CompUSA stores looking for good deals on extra N800's to buy and then lend to friends to get them addicted too. | 01:24 |
| thoughtfix | As a pusher, I am a failure ;) | 01:24 |
| unique311 | lol | 01:26 |
| sp3000 | hmm, apparently pretty much none of my files carry id3v1 | 01:26 |
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| unique311 | a pusher | 01:27 |
| thoughtfix | "The first sample is free" | 01:27 |
| sp3000 | that kinda sucks considering the mediaplayer nor mediacenter don't seem to care for other taggery afaict | 01:27 |
| unique311 | you're the owner of the site? | 01:27 |
| Knowledge | I just read something about "network problems" comming up when trying to access websites, and it being a big issue?...what's the deal with that? | 01:28 |
| unique311 | I got my n800 at JnR in nueva york for 380.. | 01:29 |
| unique311 | including the tax | 01:29 |
| unique311 | that was a deal | 01:29 |
| thoughtfix | That buy.com deal was the best I've seen so far. | 01:29 |
| * daniels still can't get his head around tax-exclusive prices. | 01:29 | |
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| |tbb|_ | is it possible to replace built in email client with claws mail? | 01:29 |
| unique311 | yeah | 01:29 |
| thoughtfix | But I just dropped my discretionary income on rebuilding my Windows Media Center box to a Core2 Duo... So extra internet tablets for "guest reviews" will have to wait until the budget catches up | 01:30 |
| daniels | surely advertising what you actually need to pay is more useful, which is why compulsory tipping seems stupid as well | 01:30 |
| thoughtfix | daniels: I think it's that way so people can maintain price-match policies. Taxes on certain items can change from one city to another. | 01:31 |
| Knowledge | thoughtfix: could I ask your opinion on something? | 01:31 |
| thoughtfix | Knowledge: Coffee is good. | 01:31 |
| daniels | thoughtfix: you say that like it's sensible ... | 01:31 |
| Knowledge | great, that's what I wanted to know... | 01:31 |
| Knowledge | thanks | 01:31 |
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| thoughtfix | Oh wait - you wanted something specific? | 01:31 |
| Knowledge | haha, what's a good car mount for the 800? | 01:31 |
| thoughtfix | daniels: I am not saying it's right. ;) | 01:32 |
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| bill20r3 | can anyone reccomend a good usb keyboard, hopefully for <$100 or so? | 01:32 |
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| thoughtfix | Knowledge: The one I use is a hybrid between a Proclip USA vent mount and a standard PDA mount. I just screwed them together and it holds fine. I am waiting on the Navicore kit to see what's included there. | 01:32 |
| Knowledge | I see. | 01:32 |
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| thoughtfix | The PDA side of the mount I use came from buygpsnow.com | 01:33 |
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| Knowledge | konttori: that media player that you created, could I dump my itunes library onto my SD and expect the app to load it?... | 01:34 |
| konttori | Umm... depends on the size. | 01:34 |
| Knowledge | thoughtfix: gotcha, yeah, it looked cool when I seen it in your blog, I couldn't find it on their site though | 01:35 |
| Knowledge | konttori: in what way? | 01:35 |
| konttori | at least up to 200 albums should work fine | 01:35 |
| konttori | I haven't tested myself with more than 140 albums | 01:35 |
| thoughtfix | konttori: I look forward to testing that thing later this evening. | 01:35 |
| thoughtfix | First I am driving out to take my parents to dinner. | 01:36 |
| konttori | Apparently songs with % sign seem to kill the player. I'll fix that tomorrow. | 01:36 |
| thoughtfix | konttori: Do you want me to wait before I do my standard write-up, screenshots, and video? | 01:37 |
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| konttori | Well, By all means, you can do it now, if it's working. I released the preview version to get people to tell me of any bugs in it. It's hard to find all sorts of mp3 tag errors without having people to test it. | 01:38 |
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| konttori | So, consider that if you do have such problems, I'm working on them now to get them sorted out as soon as possible. | 01:39 |
| thoughtfix | I'll play with it, but likely won't have time to compose a video until this weekend | 01:39 |
| konttori | It's kind of hard to decide what is the correct time to lauch. I decided to go at the time it seems to be working for me. | 01:40 |
| konttori | I'll probablyhave most of the critical bugs sorted out by the weekend. ... fingers crossed ;) | 01:40 |
| thoughtfix | I believe in you :D | 01:41 |
| thoughtfix | I wish I could code. Never got the hang of it | 01:41 |
| konttori | coding is not hard. Like putting lego bricks on top of each other. Big buildings just take time and lot of testing which brick fits where. | 01:42 |
| thoughtfix | But from my perspective, all the bricks look the same to me. ;) No... I'm content with giving you the massive Lego Mindstorms kit and then just admiring and sharing the knowledge of what you build. | 01:43 |
| tigert | and some experience helps in making a sensible house | 01:45 |
| tigert | but yea. the stuff is not impossible to learn | 01:45 |
| thoughtfix | House? Anyone can make a little "Hello World" house! I want SPACE SATELLITE with an ION CANNON that can vaporize people from orbit! | 01:46 |
| thoughtfix | er... sorry. Too much coffee | 01:46 |
| jku_ | http://shop.lego.com/Product/?p=10179 | 01:46 |
| tigert | konttori, release early, release often is good. then once its mature, put it to appcatalog. | 01:46 |
| kkito | konttori, how are you getting the id3tag ? | 01:46 |
| tigert | but sleep. i need to finish some widget spec writing stuff tomorrow. :P | 01:47 |
| konttori | I use ID3 lib for idv1 tags and id3reader for the idv2,3 tags | 01:47 |
| konttori | tigert: I think thats a good dogma | 01:48 |
| kkito | did you try to use the builtin gstreamer component? | 01:48 |
| konttori | as long as people bear to test it. | 01:48 |
| konttori | kkito: yeah | 01:48 |
| tigert | it is. you found many bugs in a hour :) | 01:48 |
| konttori | That way it uses dsp and thus doesn't consume battery | 01:48 |
| kkito | konttori, yes, but for get the id3tag | 01:49 |
| konttori | jku_: cool! | 01:49 |
| kkito | it has a builtin gstreamer component to get the id3tag | 01:49 |
| konttori | kkito: id3reader and ID3.py libs | 01:50 |
| konttori | kkito: oh, you meant gstreamer for the id3 tags. Hmm.. didn't think of that, but ... nope, no I didn't | 01:51 |
| konttori | I used two gpl libs | 01:51 |
| konttori | Neither is perfect, but together they produce ok result | 01:51 |
| kkito | the component name is id3lib | 01:52 |
| konttori | kkito: which component? | 01:52 |
| kkito | gst_element_factory_make("id3lib","id3lib"); | 01:53 |
| konttori | ahh... ok. if I find out problems with id3 tag reading on the current settings, I'll add that to the mix. | 01:54 |
| unique311 | strange....just crashed mediacenter...now its not starting at all after reboot | 01:55 |
| thoughtfix | We should just send you all of our MP3s, konttori ;) | 01:56 |
| konttori | Indeed. | 01:56 |
| konttori | It would be fun. | 01:57 |
| konttori | unique311: can you try opening from xterm? | 01:57 |
| konttori | python /usr/bin/MediaCenter | 01:57 |
| unique311 | too late..i took the long way out..uninstall/reinstall | 01:58 |
| unique311 | i guess short way | 01:58 |
| konttori | ;) | 01:59 |
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| disq | konttori: hey :) getting a "permission denied" in songprocessor.getMusicFiles() aborts the app | 02:06 |
| disq | happens when you have a ext2 partition mounted /media/mmc1 :p | 02:06 |
| konttori | disq: oh... Hmm... I suppose I'll have to add some sort of try catch loop for that. | 02:07 |
| konttori | How can I replicate it? | 02:07 |
| konttori | on a mac | 02:07 |
| konttori | or on N800 / 770 | 02:07 |
| disq | hmmm. make a dir with 600 or 700 permissions (rw------- or rwx------) in /media/mmc1 | 02:08 |
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| konttori | ok. will test | 02:08 |
| disq | erm, it should also be owned by root :) | 02:09 |
| konttori | disq: got it . I'll probably be able to fix that soon enough | 02:10 |
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| disq | i disabled songprocessing for /media/mmc1 for now, i don't have music there anyways | 02:11 |
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| konttori | disq: cool | 02:15 |
| konttori | And I'm trying to find sytax for permission denied catch | 02:16 |
| disq | no idea, i have really little python experience | 02:17 |
| konttori | ok. got it | 02:17 |
| konttori | fixed it as well. | 02:17 |
| konttori | I'll upload a new version in a sec if you can try it. | 02:17 |
| disq | mm got a interesting error and it exited | 02:17 |
| guyvdb | the soc deadline was extended, again | 02:17 |
| guyvdb | just so you know | 02:18 |
| unique311 | konttori check this out...the error from terminal.. http://pastebin.ca/411330 | 02:18 |
| konttori | unique311: thanks. Should be fixed in the next version | 02:19 |
| unique311 | the underscore i'm guessing is the issue... | 02:20 |
| unique311 | and all caps | 02:20 |
| disq | got this too: http://pastebin.ca/411338 (i spammed this via privmsg though :p ) | 02:21 |
| konttori | It was probably the / sign | 02:21 |
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| konttori | new release: https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/1137/Urho-Konttoris-MediaCenter-1.0preview5.deb | 02:24 |
| konttori | Should fix most of the errors mentioned above. | 02:24 |
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| konttori | blog updated: http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.com/2007/03/new-media-player-for-n800-it-770.html | 02:25 |
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| unique311 | http://pastebin.ca/411344 | 02:27 |
| thoughtfix | Ack ... forgive me for disappearing for a while | 02:27 |
| thoughtfix | They actually had me doing WORK ... at work | 02:28 |
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| konttori | unique311: Sounds very odd.. WHat did you do when that happened? | 02:29 |
| unique311 | when it crashed the first time... | 02:29 |
| unique311 | i ran it again from terminal.. | 02:29 |
| disq | I updated but it still gave me permission denied on mmc1 | 02:29 |
| unique311 | nothing happen...ctrl c and i got that message | 02:29 |
| disq | i think i updated at least. filesize is 37646 bytes | 02:29 |
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| konttori | unique311: Did you get a black screen? | 02:30 |
| unique311 | no | 02:30 |
| unique311 | it just hanged on the terminal | 02:30 |
| unique311 | did ctrl c and it gave the message | 02:31 |
| konttori | That message was just telling that there was a keyboard interrupt. | 02:32 |
| konttori | So, that was probably the ctrl c | 02:32 |
| konttori | How much music do you have on your device? | 02:32 |
| konttori | Do you have both MMC slots in use? | 02:32 |
| unique311 | not much...around 600MB | 02:32 |
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| unique311 | have a 2GB card | 02:32 |
| konttori | just one? | 02:32 |
| konttori | do you have net connection open? | 02:33 |
| konttori | disq: did it open the player even if it was giving permission denied? | 02:33 |
| unique311 | i have 2 2GB stick | 02:33 |
| unique311 | net is up | 02:34 |
| konttori | At least my system opens, it just gives the permission denied in the console | 02:34 |
| disq | konttori: yes. i got to the scanning mmc1 & mmc2 screen, then it quits with errno 13 permission denied | 02:34 |
| konttori | Odd... Has it created a covers directory on your removable mmc? | 02:34 |
| unique311 | yes | 02:35 |
| unique311 | mmc1 | 02:35 |
| konttori | unique311: does that contain any covers? | 02:35 |
| unique311 | yes | 02:36 |
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| konttori | disq: sorry to ask again. last time: https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/1138/Urho-Konttoris-MediaCenter-1.0preview6.deb | 02:39 |
| konttori | I hope it fixes the prob. | 02:39 |
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| disq | hang on :) | 02:43 |
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| unique311 | http://pastebin.ca/411367 | 02:46 |
| unique311 | its a long one | 02:46 |
| konttori | unique311: So, is it working now? | 02:46 |
| unique311 | well i didn't try 6 yet | 02:47 |
| * sp3000 isn't getting a cover | 02:47 | |
| konttori | damn. | 02:47 |
| unique311 | that last pastebin is from 5 | 02:47 |
| konttori | I messed it up really well.. | 02:47 |
| konttori | just a sec... | 02:47 |
| konttori | new version coming in a sec | 02:47 |
| disq | konttori: same error (filesize is 37713 bytes so it's updated) | 02:47 |
| disq | pasting complete traceback to pastebin | 02:47 |
| disq | konttori: http://pastebin.ca/411373 | 02:48 |
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| konttori | https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/1139/Urho-Konttoris-MediaCenter-1.0preview7.deb | 02:52 |
| konttori | disq: I'm adding catch loops everywhere ;) | 02:54 |
| * sp3000 still didn't get a cover | 02:55 | |
| konttori | disq: https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/1140/Urho-Konttoris-MediaCenter-1.0preview8.deb | 02:56 |
| konttori | sp3000: can you have a look in xterm on what seems to be the problem? | 02:56 |
| konttori | sp3000: what album is the problem? | 02:56 |
| sp3000 | http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=Anathema%20Eternity&fr=sfp | 02:57 |
| konttori | so, it should be able to get that | 02:57 |
| sp3000 | konttori: output from v6: http://pastebin.ca/411384 | 02:59 |
| disq | konttori: http://pastebin.ca/411385 | 02:59 |
| sp3000 | heh | 02:59 |
| konttori | sp3000: upgrade to version 7 or 8 | 02:59 |
| sp3000 | disq: ^5 for sequential pastebin #s ;) | 02:59 |
| konttori | That should do it | 02:59 |
| disq | :) | 02:59 |
| sp3000 | konttori: 7 was less verbose but I didn't see a cover | 02:59 |
| konttori | sp3000: So, you just got the unknown image. | 03:00 |
| sp3000 | yeah | 03:00 |
| konttori | Was it only for that cd or for all cds? | 03:01 |
| sp3000 | v8 works | 03:01 |
| konttori | cool. Thanks for testing. | 03:01 |
| sp3000 | np | 03:01 |
| disq | konttori: you should skip the dir once you get an exception accessing it | 03:02 |
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| konttori | I added a tweak for the moment. I'll try to fix that better in the future. | 03:04 |
| konttori | https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/1141/Urho-Konttoris-MediaCenter-1.0preview9.deb | 03:05 |
| konttori | That should do it. | 03:05 |
| konttori | If you look at the source, you might have a laugh. | 03:06 |
| konttori | So, that's not a general solution, but should help in your case. I'll try to get some test cases on my device and then fix it for good | 03:06 |
| disq | okay it works for now :) thanks | 03:07 |
| konttori | great! | 03:07 |
| konttori | It's 3 AM and I have to work tomorrow, so I'll head to bed. Thanks very much for helping me debug that thing. It has been great! | 03:08 |
| disq | yeah, thanks for the app, looks good | 03:09 |
| konttori | If you have any suggestions, let me know! | 03:10 |
| disq | of course :) | 03:10 |
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| unique311 | finally the applications link is working on maemo.org | 06:49 |
| unique311 | life is good again | 06:50 |
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| Knowledge_ | konttori isn't here huh?...hmm, anyone else try his media player? | 07:26 |
| Knowledge_ | ok...well if someone would like to let him know...it crashes when loading 183/184 albums...I hand picked a massive amount of stuff from my itunes library | 07:28 |
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| Knowledge_ | good night everyone | 07:28 |
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| mikemorrison | there is something very odd happening with my n800. i turn it off and plug it in to charge then a few minutes later it turns itself on! | 07:58 |
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| febb | mikemorrison, you just upgraded to the latest firmware, right? | 08:42 |
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| maddler | morning all... | 11:05 |
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| konttori | Not much going on today I see | 12:30 |
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| robster | where is the user configured timezone stored under maemo, /etc/timezone just contains "Europe/Helsinki" | 12:32 |
| daniels | it's trying to give you a hint | 12:34 |
| robster | daniels: :-P | 12:34 |
| sbaturzioAtWork | I got the strange feeling that N800, connected in "adhoc", drain the battery much faster than a "managed" connection | 12:34 |
| sbaturzioAtWork | is there someone else with the same feelings? | 12:35 |
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| florian | sbaturzioAtWork: I can confirm this, but that's a problem of the requirements of adhoc networks. | 12:38 |
| florian | hi mallum | 12:38 |
| mallum | hey florian | 12:38 |
| sbaturzioAtWork | florian: this means that an adhoc network need more "traffic" to work properly? | 12:40 |
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| sp3000 | konttori: bugping | 12:42 |
| sp3000 | konttori: the fetching covers thing seems to run through 0..4 / 5 for me | 12:42 |
| konttori | sp3000: I'm at work, so can't bug fix, but I'm willing to listen | 12:42 |
| konttori | What do you mean run through? | 12:43 |
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| florian | sbaturzioAtWork: yes, the card need to send beacons frequently - in a managed network the accesspoint does that. | 12:43 |
| daniels | mallum: hey dude. sorry about punting the bug, but you're our resident window manager. ;) | 12:44 |
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| sp3000 | konttori: the numbers it shows when getting covers | 12:44 |
| sbaturzioAtWork | florian: I see, thank you. | 12:44 |
| konttori | Oh. True! I'll fix that when I get back home | 12:44 |
| konttori | It's always one less. Probably I just use the array counter which begins from 0. | 12:45 |
| konttori | I'll just add it to be i+1 or something. Thanks for the bug! | 12:45 |
| mallum | daniels: np :) | 12:45 |
| X-Fade | Hmm a thumb_scrollbar. Nice :) | 12:54 |
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| inz | robster, what does ls -l /etc/zoneinfo say? | 13:36 |
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| konttori | Is there some kind of radio silence in place today as no-one is talking here? | 17:40 |
| mgedmin | ah, peace and quiet | 17:45 |
| konttori | Yeah. Server must be purring. | 17:45 |
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| zuh | <sarcasm> everybody is just tapping their fingers to the table while waiting for kernel sources to get SDHC cards oprational again</sarcasm> | 17:54 |
| zuh | ;) | 17:55 |
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| konttori | zuh. Might actually be the case for pretty many people. Meh. I just wonder why Nokia doesn't include SDHC as standard. Is there a license fee for supporting that? | 17:57 |
| mgedmin | I think it's a question of missing code | 17:59 |
| mgedmin | although now that the patch exists I wonder why it wasn't included in the last update | 17:59 |
| Tak | indeed | 17:59 |
| mgedmin | maybe lack of testing? | 17:59 |
| zuh | Probably just too much of a leap-of-faith to trust a relatively untested patches from 3rd party | 17:59 |
| zuh | or rather include 3rd party code in kernel I mean | 18:00 |
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| zuh | if were a userland app, who cares, but for the kernel... | 18:00 |
| mgedmin | getting that patch into linus' kernel would help | 18:00 |
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| Knowledge | I got a quick question, my background disappears along with the top toolbar when certain programs are launched...anyone know why that might be? (booting from MMC) | 18:06 |
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| Tak | what programs? | 18:09 |
| bill20r3 | they're not just launching full-screen, right? | 18:10 |
| kulve | zuh: yeah. Nokia absorbs all patches easily from 3rd party to user space apps ;) | 18:12 |
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| Knowledge | Tak: actually I've only seen it happen with konttori's Media Center | 18:14 |
| zuh | kulve: I was mostly referencing accepted code quality (think email here) :P | 18:15 |
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| Knowledge | but then again, I done a boot from MMC, updated the firmware, and did the boot from MMC again without formatting the card, I think that might have something to do with it. | 18:15 |
| mgedmin | faiu when you choose a background image, the software creates a new one with the toolbar composed in the png | 18:20 |
| Tak | simon_budig++ | 18:20 |
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| nomis | Tak: Hmm? | 18:24 |
| Tak | response to python gtk wrapper thread | 18:24 |
| nomis | Tak: ah. ;) | 18:24 |
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| Juhaz | indeed | 18:29 |
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| * konttori is back and can handle any new bugs for Media Player. | 18:40 | |
| jku | what was the url again, konttori? I might take it for a spin | 18:44 |
| konttori | https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/1141/Urho-Konttoris-MediaCenter-1.0preview9.deb | 18:44 |
| Knowledge | konttori: did you check out my post? | 18:44 |
| konttori | You need to have python installed | 18:44 |
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| konttori | Yeah, I noticed it. | 18:45 |
| konttori | Do you know which file it was? | 18:45 |
| Knowledge | oh, you mean where it says "problem opening file"? | 18:45 |
| Knowledge | cause I'm at work right now, but Im' messing with it to help you out | 18:46 |
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| Knowledge | there are a few that it says "problem opening file" for... | 18:46 |
| konttori | Knowledge: Ok, I spotted the place. | 18:46 |
| Knowledge | about 4-5 | 18:46 |
| Knowledge | I wish I brought my headphones...damn it | 18:47 |
| konttori | Seems like it has trouble with a specific file. Something that has something odd in the album name. Perhaps it's empty or contains a space. | 18:47 |
| konttori | Ring any bells? | 18:48 |
| Knowledge | one contains a ~ | 18:48 |
| Knowledge | ohhh...no wait, 2 of them contain a & sign | 18:49 |
| Knowledge | bootsie collins has a space at the end... | 18:49 |
| Knowledge | but those are the artist name, not album | 18:50 |
| jku | konttori, pygame seems to be a dependency also | 18:51 |
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| konttori | jku: indeed. But it is bundled with python installs | 18:52 |
| jku | not mine (python2.5, can't remember where from) | 18:52 |
| konttori | I don't even mention python at the moment in the debian. | 18:53 |
| konttori | jku: ahh... damn. The one in the http://repository.maemo.org/extras/dists/bora/install/python2.5-runtime.install should contain pygame | 18:54 |
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| Knowledge | konttori: so it's nothing on my end? | 19:06 |
| bill20r3 | is there a way to get smooth youtube playback? | 19:06 |
| bill20r3 | mine chunks pretty hard, a N800. | 19:07 |
| mgedmin | audio stuttering is the most irritating part of it | 19:10 |
| konttori | Knowledge: Well, some album name could be causing the problem. I'm in the process of maybe fixing your problem, but getting to know the exact problem would help | 19:10 |
| konttori | setting to low quality might help | 19:10 |
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| bill20r3 | I'll try low quality and see if that helps. | 19:12 |
| bill20r3 | will mplayer play the flash video? | 19:12 |
| bill20r3 | also, anyone know if I can get rid of the boot-time graphics, so I can watch the console messages? (assuming it actually prints them to the screen..) | 19:16 |
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| Knowledge | konttori: I will try to remove them, I'll see that happens then. | 19:25 |
| konttori | if you can pinpoint one file, send that to me and I can debug it | 19:25 |
| Knowledge | konttori: xterm shows that 2 of the ones that it can't open have & signs in them, and one has a space before the .jpg | 19:26 |
| konttori | ahh... cool. I'll try to add & removal ti file processing | 19:26 |
| Knowledge | I don't know if for sure the & sign is the problem, I'm going to load it back up right now, how can I send the output to a text file? | 19:27 |
| Knowledge | man this background disappearing shit is annoying... | 19:29 |
| Knowledge | anyone know how to send the output from xterm to a file? | 19:31 |
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| konttori | Knowledge. Can you just use copy / paste? | 19:34 |
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| dragorn | Knowledge: ought to just be redirect | 19:34 |
| Knowledge | the whole output? or just the last few lines? | 19:34 |
| dragorn | foo &> log.txt | 19:34 |
| dragorn | notice the lack of a space in & and >, if you put a space in there it won't do what you expect | 19:34 |
| dragorn | &> ought to redirect all output streams (stdout and stderr) | 19:35 |
| daniels | bill20r3: youtube doesn't do any hardware acceleration of video, so there's no real way to speed it up, and the console doesn't go to the framebuffer at all | 19:36 |
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| bill20r3 | where does the console go? | 19:36 |
| bill20r3 | I just want to see the boot-time output | 19:36 |
| daniels | bill20r3: nowhere accessible | 19:36 |
| daniels | bill20r3: you can use dmesg after the fact | 19:37 |
| bill20r3 | the init scripts I saw seemed to suggest that it'd go to the serial port, if it's there. | 19:37 |
| daniels | indeed | 19:38 |
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| daniels | but that's only really useful if it's not booting: dmesg will show you the whole log once you've booted | 19:38 |
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| dragorn | there is a serial port, you just have to build a connector to tap it. I forget where the directions are, the port is in the battery compartment | 19:38 |
| bill20r3 | yeah, I saw. | 19:39 |
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| Knowledge | konttori: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=41374&postcount=17 | 19:56 |
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| mk8 | Bye to all ...see you later .. | 20:05 |
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| jobi | http://www.flickr.com/photos/johanbilien/436524483/ | 20:09 |
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| zuh | ..on desktop?-) | 20:10 |
| Knowledge | konttori: I believe it's because they're under "unknown albums" | 20:10 |
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| kkito | jobi, n800 has the composite extension enabled? | 20:11 |
| jobi | kkito: nope, need to recompile the x server | 20:11 |
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| jobi | zuh: on N800 | 20:11 |
| jobi | it's a bit slow when you move them :) | 20:12 |
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| jobi | but not as slow as i was expecting | 20:12 |
| jobi | btw zuh i was expecting you at the bossa conference :) | 20:16 |
| Molagi | shame theres no timer on the camera application | 20:17 |
| Molagi | it would be nice | 20:17 |
| Molagi | really hard to take a picture when you need to click the icon | 20:17 |
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| * bill20r3 waits for a webcam app | 20:19 | |
| bill20r3 | or at least a cli capture tool | 20:20 |
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| hs | Hello, I've noticed that alarm on n770 rings through internal speaker even when external speakers are connected, is there a way to direct sound to external ones? | 20:42 |
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| etrunko | hey jobi, | 21:01 |
| etrunko | how was the trip? | 21:01 |
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| maddler | back... | 21:06 |
| jobi | etrunko: long but ok | 21:08 |
| jobi | etrunko: a bit depressing being back in HEL after seeing in paradise | 21:09 |
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| etrunko | jobi: is it still cold there? | 21:14 |
| jobi | etrunko: the week end i came back we got a snow storm | 21:14 |
| etrunko | damn | 21:14 |
| jobi | now it's getting better and warmer | 21:14 |
| etrunko | good to hear it | 21:14 |
| etrunko | jobi: so, did you enjoyed the conference (not taking into account the place)?? | 21:17 |
| etrunko | :) | 21:17 |
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| konttori | Knowledge: Thanks for the output. I'll watch an episode of a series and then repackage the current code for you. | 21:19 |
| tko | I heard it was fun to be from nokia in the conference :) | 21:19 |
| etrunko | tko: really? how was that? | 21:19 |
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| tko | I'll let jobi elaborate :) | 21:20 |
| jobi | etrunko: you know, being from the same company as OpenC ;) | 21:20 |
| etrunko | ah ok | 21:21 |
| etrunko | haha | 21:21 |
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| etrunko | at least there was a nice "developer" gift | 21:23 |
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| shackan | WTF? the battery is litterally stuck! | 21:27 |
| bergie | what's the deal with that Rhapsody app? the install file provided on Tableteer doesn't work | 21:27 |
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| * shackan start to worry about his battery | 21:28 | |
| shackan | last time I popped it off to read the product code it came out just fine! | 21:29 |
| bergie | ah, and seems Rhapsody only works in the US | 21:29 |
| tko | shackan, it's all in the wrist :) | 21:30 |
| shackan | tko, seriously, it's like the plastic casing has expanded somehow | 21:30 |
| tko | with little practice tapping the device on your palm drops the battery in your hand | 21:31 |
| shackan | tko, I'm worrying about battery heating or something | 21:31 |
| hs | folks, how do I play an mp3 from the command line on the n770? Do I have to use osso-music-player via dbus? | 21:31 |
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| Pio | hs, mplayer can do it | 21:33 |
| hs | very nice! I didn't know it was ported. thanks | 21:35 |
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| shackan | holy fuck | 21:37 |
| MDK | shackan: I had same problem | 21:44 |
| MDK | my batter is a bit 'blown-up' | 21:44 |
| MDK | I must say I got a bit scared and replaced it | 21:44 |
| Tak | ah, I thought the casing was just tighter on the n800 | 21:46 |
| * jobi checks his battery | 21:46 | |
| MDK | in my case, part of the plastic on the other side of the connectors partly broke | 21:47 |
| MDK | as a result of expanding I guess | 21:47 |
| Tak | eek | 21:47 |
| * Tak makes a note to check his fiancee's n800 later | 21:48 | |
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| shackan | MDK, seriously !? | 21:50 |
| shackan | MDK, I don't have a replacement tough :\ | 21:51 |
| MDK | well, I was showing it to tigert just today | 21:51 |
| MDK | but I'm talking about REALLY small change | 21:51 |
| MDK | yet noticable | 21:51 |
| MDK | mind also, that I'm not sure where my battery comes from | 21:51 |
| MDK | it's prolly one of the testing batteries, not production-ready | 21:52 |
| shackan | mine has the "nokia certified" ologram (it's the one which came with the tablet) | 21:52 |
| Knowledge | konttori: I'm glad I could help...I got it up and running, good work man...good work | 21:53 |
| Knowledge | it reminds me of the UI for the JBs my company makes... | 21:53 |
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| shackan | MDK, also, last week I had it charging for more than 24hrs, after that the screen was still on "charging..." ! | 21:54 |
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| MDK | X-Fade: you noticed ;) | 21:57 |
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| X-Fade | What have I done? | 21:57 |
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| MDK | X-Fade: the thumb scrollbar | 21:58 |
| X-Fade | CIA baby ;) | 21:58 |
| X-Fade | And I saw the template commit for it yesterday.. | 21:59 |
| MDK | good that somebody cares ;) | 21:59 |
| X-Fade | It most of the time are simple things that make life easier. | 21:59 |
| zuh | jobi: I was expecting myself at bossa too, but things got in the way... and Composite on N800 is something I've been planning to hack with too. I once tried it (with xcompmgr) and have been planning a Thing to utilize it ;) | 21:59 |
| X-Fade | The lock device, instant display off is also something like that. New in the new image, I like it :) | 22:00 |
| zuh | What's this thumb scrollbar you keep talking about? | 22:00 |
| X-Fade | zuh: When you scroll with your thumb. The scrollbar gets 1cm wide ;) | 22:01 |
| X-Fade | Well, it sardine at least.. | 22:01 |
| X-Fade | in | 22:01 |
| zuh | "when" as in decided on the pressure data? | 22:02 |
| zuh | s,on,from, | 22:02 |
| X-Fade | zuh: I guess like the menus etc.. | 22:02 |
| X-Fade | And the fullscreen keyboard. | 22:02 |
| hs | is there a way to schedule tasks? (even without necessarily triggering a device wakeup). I can't see atd... | 22:03 |
| bergie | ok, app manager didn't "see" rhapsody package, but found it with direct URL... http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/pool/bora/user/r/rhapsody/ | 22:03 |
| MDK | bergie: does it work? | 22:03 |
| bergie | Installing... | 22:03 |
| zuh | Hmm, that sounds like it would have an ill effect on wrapping widgets if the horizontal space jumps around... Any screenshots/casts? | 22:03 |
| MDK | X-Fade/zuh: currently the scrollbar doesn't grow | 22:04 |
| MDK | it's just that you can make the big scrollbar in places where you think it makes sense | 22:04 |
| MDK | in places where you have thumbable content | 22:05 |
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| zuh | In my book that's everywhere ;) | 22:05 |
| zuh | I take out the stylus only when I _really_ can't poke the thing with my fingers | 22:06 |
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| bergie | MDK: yeah, seems to actually work quite OK | 22:06 |
| zuh | Unfortunately that's pretty often, specially with the browser | 22:06 |
| bergie | the UI is a bit weird, but I can live with it | 22:06 |
| MDK | zuh: in some places the content can be scrolled by dragging | 22:07 |
| MDK | ie. browser or chat apps | 22:07 |
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| MDK | special, tiny, 'indicator-only' scrollbar would make sense there | 22:08 |
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| konttori | https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/1142/Urho-Konttoris-MediaCenter-1.0preview11.deb | 22:11 |
| MDK | bergie: can you use it being in .fi? | 22:13 |
| MDK | or is us-only? | 22:13 |
| MDK | BTW, I think there is something broken with tableteer repos/install files | 22:14 |
| MDK | I tried installing gmail notifier the other day and it failed too (not found) | 22:14 |
| maddler | konttori: here mediacenter dies afther showing the "searching MMC1 and MMC2" | 22:15 |
| konttori | Latest version should improve reading of some id3 tags and speeds up song list display a bid and fixes some gfx glitches | 22:15 |
| ptman | how are people able to update software in the application catalog? I can't even log in | 22:15 |
| konttori | maddler: did previous versions die as well? | 22:15 |
| konttori | can you xterm what went wrong? Do you have write access to mmcs? | 22:16 |
| konttori | Next version should only need read access | 22:17 |
| maddler | dunno I have 1.0.4 installed... | 22:17 |
| maddler | didn't tried prev releases... | 22:17 |
| konttori | 1.0.11 is the latest one. | 22:17 |
| konttori | Can you try that one. Should have tons of bug fixes since 1.0.4 | 22:17 |
| zuh | haha, I guess it make sense but I wasn't expecting to see hildon-desktop show entries in it's menu on my gentoo | 22:17 |
| maddler | ok... downloading now... | 22:18 |
| maddler | gimme a couple seconds... | 22:18 |
| * zuh directs applauds on development in the compilable-with-vanilla-gtk department to responsibles | 22:20 | |
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| zuh | All I needed to do was #ifdef out some input mode stuff, one tap-and-hold and few logical color lookups | 22:21 |
| zuh | And I got hildon-desktop runnable on my desktop | 22:21 |
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| jobi | zuh: actually it should | 22:22 |
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| jobi | at least it kinda works on ubuntu | 22:22 |
| jobi | i hacked the Category stuff in libhildonmenu | 22:23 |
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| zuh | Pretty cool stuff this | 22:24 |
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| * zuh goes to bed to sleep off the DST hangover and to make 3v1l plans of hackery ;) | 22:26 | |
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| konttori | maddler: did you have better luck with the -11 version? | 22:27 |
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| maddler | konttori: back... no... | 22:31 |
| maddler | same... | 22:31 |
| maddler | crashes right after startup... | 22:31 |
| maddler | anything I can do to give you more informations? | 22:31 |
| tchan | Is there a definitive answer for whether or not usb host mode hacks will (ever) work on the N800, like they do on the 770 ? | 22:31 |
| maddler | brb... need to switch to wifi... | 22:32 |
| guerby | http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/26/0240234 | 22:32 |
| guerby | I moded up nokia 800 comments, one is at 4 points :) | 22:33 |
| guerby | " How Small a PC Is Too Small?" | 22:33 |
| MDK | bergie: get a jaiku account! It's way better than twitter | 22:33 |
| MDK | and it's finnish | 22:33 |
| bergie | MDK: I'll consider :-) | 22:33 |
| bergie | however, Jaiku isn't yet integrated with Midgard | 22:33 |
| MDK | ah | 22:33 |
| MDK | it has a pretty good s60 client | 22:34 |
| MDK | can show you who's near you using bluetooth | 22:34 |
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| maddler | back... | 22:37 |
| maddler | konttori: so... anything I can do to debug? | 22:37 |
| maddler | MDK: which client? | 22:37 |
| MDK | maddler: s60 client for jaiku.com | 22:38 |
| MDK | s60 = series 60 = the OS nokia nseries phones run | 22:38 |
| ajturner|work | MDK - it's not hard to be better than twitter, you're lucky if it's up half the time ;) | 22:38 |
| maddler | oh... ok... | 22:38 |
| maddler | could give it a try on my E61 | 22:39 |
| MDK | having maemo client would, of course, be way cooler | 22:39 |
| MDK | ajturner|work: ;) Well, good thing is you can stream-in other rss feeds | 22:39 |
| ajturner|work | to what end? | 22:39 |
| MDK | it recognizes lastfm, flickr, delicious, plazes and all crap | 22:39 |
| ajturner|work | why would I want to bring in RSS feeds to my status? | 22:39 |
| MDK | not to your status | 22:40 |
| MDK | it's a bit like mugshot | 22:40 |
| MDK | you can see what your friends are doing | 22:40 |
| bergie | MDK: sounds like fun | 22:40 |
| MDK | what photos they're posting, where are they, what music they listen too | 22:40 |
| ajturner|work | MDK - so you bring in RSS feeds of other users systems? | 22:40 |
| MDK | no, you bring in all your feeds | 22:41 |
| ajturner|work | but how is that diff't from an RSS reader? | 22:41 |
| MDK | and others, following you, see the stuff you do | 22:41 |
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| MDK | 1) it displays it in a failry nice way. Ie. it'll 'stack' multiple songs together, multiple photos | 22:42 |
| MDK | 2) you just need to follow one thing | 22:42 |
| MDK | ie, when I want to follow bergie, I just add him | 22:42 |
| MDK | I don't need to care about his blog, his last.fm account, his account on flickr and all the crap | 22:42 |
| ajturner|work | how do you add him? | 22:43 |
| MDK | but I'd say that the nice & usable UI is the selling point | 22:43 |
| MDK | for me | 22:43 |
| ajturner|work | you mean, in my own Jaiku acct - I personally pull in all my own feeds | 22:43 |
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| MDK | yes | 22:43 |
| MDK | the ones you want | 22:43 |
| ajturner|work | then, if I give out my username to someone, and they add me, they have all those N feeds | 22:43 |
| ajturner|work | ah | 22:43 |
| ajturner|work | so it's a collected aggregator (or something) | 22:43 |
| ajturner|work | what would be cool is to tie that to my open.id | 22:44 |
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| ajturner|work | almost like, oh, I don't know, a connected web ;) | 22:44 |
| MDK | a bit like that. With twittering features & commenting on all items | 22:44 |
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| ajturner|work | well, it's like they built a tumblog into a rss agg | 22:46 |
| konttori | maddler: Just wondering if this version works for you without problems | 22:46 |
| MDK | ajturner|work: ie. check http://michaldominik.jaiku.com/ | 22:46 |
| maddler | konttori: no... it isn't :) | 22:48 |
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| konttori | maddler: can you open xterm and run: python /usr/bin/MediaCenter and see what gives | 22:49 |
| maddler | yep... | 22:50 |
| konttori | Python should tell you pretty well what crashed | 22:50 |
| maddler | doh... OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/media/mmc2/lost+found' | 22:51 |
| bergie | MDK: http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/first_look_at_rhapsody_for_n800.html | 22:51 |
| ajturner|work | MDK - there ya go: http://ajturner.jaiku.com/ | 22:53 |
| konttori | Hmm... I really need to check on how I can add access level checks there. | 22:54 |
| ajturner|work | hrm, what about N800 integration with streaming from SlimServer? :) | 22:55 |
| maddler | konttori: and also... is there a way to only check specific path? | 22:57 |
| maddler | I mean... I only need to access /media/mmc2/multimedia | 22:57 |
| maddler | no need to scan the whole stuff... | 22:58 |
| Tak | interesting @ rhapsody review | 22:58 |
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| maddler | florian: evening... | 23:08 |
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| florian | hi maddler | 23:09 |
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| konttori | maddler: Not at the moment. It does skip hidden folders and folders titled 'debian'. | 23:14 |
| konttori | Anyway, at least I haven't seen any problems in the scanning process. Most of the time is spent generating the album covers and retrieving the album images. | 23:15 |
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| maddler | konttori: I could rename lost+found to debian... :D | 23:17 |
| konttori | maddler: yeah. that should do it for now. | 23:17 |
| Tak | wouldn't that do bad things to the fs? | 23:17 |
| konttori | But how come there is a permission error? Have you set special permissions for it? | 23:17 |
| maddler | hehehe... I'm trying simply deleting it... | 23:17 |
| maddler | it's 700 root.root | 23:18 |
| konttori | hmm.. 700 ... ok. | 23:19 |
| maddler | hmmm... ok... and... I have a link to / in ~/MyDocs which causes another crash... :) | 23:19 |
| maddler | but.. I admit this could be my fault :D | 23:20 |
| maddler | OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/media/mmc2/user/MyDocs/Internal/user/MyDocs/Internal/user/MyDocs/Internal/user/MyDocs/Internal/user/MyDocs/Internal/user/MyDocs/Internal/user/MyDocs/Internal/user/MyDocs/Internal/user/MyDocs/Internal/user/MyDocs/Internal/user/MyDocs/Internal/user/MyDocs/Internal/user/MyDocs/Internal/user/MyDocs/Internal/user/MyDocs/Internal/user/MyDocs/Internal/user/MyDocs/Internal/user/MyDocs/Internal/user/MyDocs/Int | 23:20 |
| maddler | wops... | 23:20 |
| maddler | sorry... | 23:20 |
| konttori | maddler: I was finally able to setup a test case of the permission denied stuff for myself. I'll have a fix ready soon.... I hope | 23:21 |
| maddler | konttori: hehe... no problem... :) | 23:22 |
| maddler | feel free to drop me a line... | 23:22 |
| maddler | if you need a betatester... :) | 23:22 |
| maddler | bergie: just finished reading your review of Rhapsody... | 23:22 |
| maddler | btw... ever tried MagnaTune | 23:22 |
| maddler | nice independent music "store" | 23:23 |
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| shackan | duh, almost four hours to download the IT OS 2007 update | 23:23 |
| maddler | no DRM... and you can listen to the whole album before you buy... and you decide the price... | 23:24 |
| shackan | hi maddler! | 23:24 |
| maddler | shackan: it only took 5 minutes here :D | 23:24 |
| maddler | shackan: ciao paisa`! :D | 23:24 |
| shackan | maddler, eh | 23:24 |
| shackan | maddy, you're a soc mentor , by any chance? | 23:24 |
| maddler | yes... | 23:25 |
| shackan | maddler, qgil asked me to find someone to mentorize me, do you have any idea whom can I poke ? | 23:25 |
| maddler | beside I had to think before answering... soc="Security Operation Center" | 23:26 |
| maddler | I would be happy to be your mentor... :) | 23:26 |
| shackan | maddler, go figure, I always think SoC = "system on chip" | 23:26 |
| shackan | oh, GREAT | 23:26 |
| maddler | shackan: hahaha... | 23:26 |
| maddler | you know... being a security consultant... | 23:27 |
| maddler | :) | 23:27 |
| shackan | wow | 23:27 |
| shackan | btw, did you read my crackpot idea? | 23:27 |
| maddler | ok... give me some 15 minutes to fix something... | 23:27 |
| maddler | shackan: no... where was it? | 23:27 |
| maddler | ok... brb... | 23:27 |
| shackan | on the code.google.com section reserved to mentors, I guess | 23:28 |
| maddler | hehehe... of course... :D | 23:28 |
| maddler | disconnected brain! :D | 23:28 |
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| maddler | brb | 23:28 |
| shackan | :D | 23:29 |
| bergie | maddler: good point, linked my post to http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=925 | 23:30 |
| konttori | maddler: I sorted it out finally. I will make a release in a sec. | 23:32 |
| MDK | bergie: about rapshody... let's hope will have the last.fm player after the summer/soc | 23:34 |
| konttori | maddler: https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/1143/Urho-Konttoris-MediaCenter-1.0preview12.deb | 23:34 |
| konttori | Can you try that one out. It should handle the OSExceptions now properly. | 23:35 |
| bergie | MDK: I saw a proposal for that | 23:36 |
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| konttori | maddler: let me know how it goes, will you? | 23:37 |
| maddler | shackan: finished reading right now... I'm going to "willing to mentor" :) | 23:39 |
| maddler | bergie: nice... | 23:40 |
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| shackan | maddler, awesome | 23:40 |
| maddler | konttori: just give the time to DL and install... | 23:40 |
| maddler | shackan: :D | 23:40 |
| maddler | being italian can help both of us :D | 23:41 |
| shackan | :D | 23:42 |
| shackan | btw, how do you like it? | 23:42 |
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| maddler | yep... sounds nice... | 23:44 |
| maddler | even more if it can work both on Linux and on that other O.S. :) | 23:44 |
| maddler | and Mac OS X perhaps... | 23:44 |
| shackan | sure, that's "reserved for the future" as stated, (and, I don't have a mac :( | 23:45 |
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| maddler | hmmm... _maybe_ we could find a solution for that as well... | 23:46 |
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| maddler | konttori: at least it didn't crashed, yet ;) | 23:48 |
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| maddler | shackan: ok... lemme apply... | 23:48 |
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| maddler | shackan: ok... done... | 23:52 |
| maddler | qgil: evening... | 23:52 |
| qgil | hi maddler | 23:52 |
| * shackan waves to qgil | 23:52 | |
| * qgil comes from reviewing all the SoC proposals | 23:53 | |
| AD-N770_ | bona nit qgil :) | 23:53 |
| qgil | there bis a lot of good stuff there | 23:53 |
| * shackan comes from hunting for SoC mentors | 23:53 | |
| qgil | still don't know if good mentors as well ;) | 23:53 |
| maddler | qgil: yep... was giving a look at them... | 23:53 |
| maddler | qgil: dunno... dunno... we'll see :) | 23:54 |
| ajturner|work | shackan - which project? | 23:56 |
| shackan | smoove | 23:56 |
| shackan | ajturner|work, are you a mentor? | 23:58 |
| ajturner|work | shackan - yes | 23:58 |
| maddler | konttori: ok... it didn't crashed... but... I only have a black screen here! :D | 23:58 |
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| shackan | ajturner|work, in that case, any kind of feedback is welcome | 23:59 |
| ajturner|work | reading it now (long ;) ) | 23:59 |
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