maddler | nice app... | 00:00 |
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maddler | it uses a web interface... | 00:00 |
Guard][an | ampache.org? | 00:00 |
maddler | yes... | 00:01 |
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mgedmin | I use gnump3d to stream music to my nokia | 00:37 |
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maddler | folks... claws-mail really rocks! | 01:40 |
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Markov | hey. is there a list of phones that are compatible with the n800? | 02:32 |
Markov | or, i just got a razr and i'd like to use it as a modem for the n800; has anyone done this successfully? | 02:33 |
Markov | when i try the phone setup wizard on the n800 i get "Connection failed to phone Your Phone. Try again?" | 02:34 |
Markov | it just keeps churning out that message | 02:34 |
JussiP | Have you set your phone to accept connections? | 02:37 |
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Markov | Hmm. I think so... I "bonded" it with the n800 | 02:39 |
Markov | let me double check with the users guide :) | 02:39 |
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JussiP | You also need to make it share the internet connection. | 02:39 |
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Markov | i don't see anything about sharing the connection in the manual.. | 02:45 |
Markov | do you happen to know how to do it? | 02:45 |
neostrider | I do | 02:46 |
neostrider | but only in windows =-( | 02:46 |
neostrider | my dongle freezes down my ubuntu =-(( | 02:46 |
neostrider | but the 770 and the windows box get along nicely | 02:48 |
Markov | i'm asking about sharing between a cellphone and tablet | 02:48 |
neostrider | ohhh | 02:48 |
neostrider | ok | 02:48 |
neostrider | sorry | 02:48 |
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Markov | np | 02:50 |
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rhsanborn | I know the 700 had a port of mysql, anyone know if it works on the 800? | 03:14 |
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maddler | rhsanborn: at least it could... | 03:14 |
maddler | give it a try... :) | 03:14 |
rhsanborn | :P | 03:14 |
rhsanborn | I´ll try it this weekend when I have a bit more time to play with it :P | 03:15 |
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Markov | JussiP: could you tell me how to share my connection, or point me to the proper resource? | 03:49 |
Markov | nokia support was completely useless :( | 03:50 |
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gomiam | hi everyone. A fast question : how do I select text on a N800 browser window? | 03:52 |
gomiam | I am randomly able to do so, but I still can't do it exactly when I want. | 03:53 |
gomiam | Well, it's late anyway so I'll google it again in the morrow. | 03:55 |
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rhsanborn | Ive got a couple more questions onavailable programs for the 800. Has anyone seen a spell checker? (For vim) and also, do any of you use alternative keyboards? (French?) | 04:08 |
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rhsanborn | Found the French keyboard, now I just have to go buy the letter stickers for my stowaway keyboard. I can never remember these key placements. | 04:21 |
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dolfun | what a drag that the Porient H9 doesn't use maemo | 04:59 |
unique311 | isn't that a relief... | 05:00 |
dolfun | why? | 05:00 |
unique311 | don't maemo belong to nokia... | 05:00 |
unique311 | that porient OS looks like maemo.. | 05:00 |
unique311 | has windows icons.... | 05:00 |
unique311 | straight ripoff | 05:01 |
unique311 | correct? | 05:01 |
dolfun | yes i saw the win icon | 05:04 |
dolfun | i guess you're right about maemo, i thought it was more open | 05:04 |
dolfun | just was reading up on it | 05:04 |
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unique311 | think the major issue with owning a n800 or 770, is that its open source...in a funny way that is. | 05:06 |
dolfun | from a user/developer perspective, it'd be nice to have some convergence on the windowmanager stuff | 05:07 |
unique311 | when a windows or any other device hits the scene.. the linux community tends to pay it lots of attention, mostly because they are trying to install linux on it.. | 05:07 |
dolfun | yeah | 05:07 |
unique311 | with maemo its already linux... | 05:07 |
unique311 | so its like fuck.. | 05:07 |
unique311 | guess that would be a donwside huh... | 05:07 |
dolfun | i just want open source apps to be easily portable to any tablet | 05:08 |
unique311 | i'm guessing i should've waited a while before purchasing my n800 | 05:08 |
unique311 | from a user point of view | 05:09 |
unique311 | still happy with it.. | 05:09 |
dolfun | maybe, but the alternatives are too expensive (samsung, sony) | 05:09 |
unique311 | fuck yeah | 05:09 |
unique311 | way too expensive.. | 05:09 |
dolfun | and for me, i don't want a tablet with directx 9c gaming | 05:10 |
unique311 | i'm happy with the with my little suzy... | 05:10 |
unique311 | suzy (my n800's name) | 05:10 |
dolfun | did you also have a 770? | 05:10 |
unique311 | no | 05:11 |
unique311 | i saw the n800 and fell in love.. | 05:11 |
dolfun | the nokias are the coolest things since the psion netbook imo | 05:11 |
unique311 | but then i saw the sony umpc...and wanted marriage...but saw the price tag and decided I was too young for marriage... | 05:12 |
dolfun | yeah, and then there's the marrying an evil wife issue | 05:12 |
unique311 | i was thinking osx86 on that sony | 05:12 |
unique311 | but whichever umpc I get will be getting the osx86 facelift.. | 05:13 |
unique311 | or linux | 05:13 |
dolfun | i wouldn't buy anything where my money goes to microsoft | 05:15 |
unique311 | http://onlyumpc.com/news/mac-os-x-on-asus-r2h | 05:15 |
dolfun | i've suffered microsoft hell since DOS 1.0 | 05:15 |
unique311 | check it out... | 05:15 |
unique311 | osx86 running on umpc... | 05:15 |
unique311 | microsoft is not that awfull.. | 05:15 |
dolfun | i don't know anything about osx86 | 05:15 |
unique311 | hmmm | 05:15 |
unique311 | using it on my notebook right now.. | 05:16 |
unique311 | i can't afford a mac... | 05:16 |
dolfun | who makes osx86 | 05:16 |
dolfun | oh apple | 05:16 |
unique311 | so this does the trick | 05:16 |
unique311 | yeah | 05:16 |
unique311 | osx made for intelmacs | 05:16 |
unique311 | somedude name jas crack it.. | 05:16 |
unique311 | and now it runs on basically x86 machines.. | 05:16 |
unique311 | on 10.4.8 | 05:16 |
unique311 | runs smooth | 05:17 |
unique311 | u want screenshots..? | 05:17 |
dolfun | no | 05:19 |
unique311 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/unique0nez/429971994/ | 05:20 |
unique311 | here | 05:20 |
unique311 | lol | 05:20 |
unique311 | with you saying no | 05:21 |
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dolfun | it's kind of strange having guys from nokia answering your emails | 05:27 |
dolfun | nice people | 05:27 |
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unique311 | heard customer service sucks with nokia. | 05:31 |
unique311 | isn't just nokia, every company's customer service suck | 05:31 |
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dolfun | what about the reports of n800 delicacy to drops? i have been very rough with my 770 and it is working fine | 05:47 |
unique311 | i dropped my n800 the second day i had it.. | 05:47 |
unique311 | was right near my head..a full 2 feet drop...it begged for more... | 05:48 |
unique311 | no scratches whatsoever | 05:48 |
unique311 | luck maybr | 05:48 |
Markov | tethering with cingular? | 05:51 |
Markov | works? doens't work? | 05:51 |
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konfoo | cingular works for me | 05:53 |
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tigert | dolfun: sounds like bad luck for the guy. i have accidentally dropped mine several times. its fine. | 09:12 |
sxpert | I don't seem to get gprs access with either Orange france or Bouygues telecom here | 09:13 |
sxpert | (on the 770) | 09:14 |
tigert | does the phone get it by itself? | 09:17 |
sxpert | yeah | 09:17 |
tigert | does the phone try connecting when you initiate connection from the 770? | 09:18 |
sxpert | erh, lemme check :D | 09:18 |
tigert | ie, if it shows some bluetooth/connecting icon etc | 09:19 |
tigert | if it does, the 770 might try using a wrong profile or such | 09:19 |
sxpert | yes, the bluetooth icom appears on the phone. but an error comes up on the 770 | 09:20 |
tigert | if it does nothing, the bluetooth connection has some issue | 09:20 |
tigert | remote server error? | 09:20 |
sxpert | ok. was using wrong profile on the Orange | 09:22 |
tigert | so it works now? | 09:23 |
tigert | there are also semi-well hidden detailed settings for gprs connections | 09:23 |
tigert | sometimes the providers change settings so the predefined profiles get out of date | 09:25 |
tigert | so then you need to poke those by hand | 09:25 |
sxpert | ah. on the bouygues, I appear not to have the data service, which explains that | 09:26 |
tigert | yeah, could be a slight hinderance :) | 09:26 |
tigert | btw | 09:26 |
tigert | maemomapper uses OSM by default now, yay :) | 09:27 |
sxpert | yeah. I saw that and installed the newer version. | 09:27 |
sxpert | there appears to be a bug with the zoom levels though | 09:27 |
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sxpert | tigert, it appears that maemo mapper is using intermediate zoom levels which shows the tile from level n-1 zoomed | 09:29 |
tigert | ok | 09:29 |
tigert | yea, you can set number of levels | 09:30 |
tigert | if the map doesnt provide as many, it pixeldoubles the smaller one afaik | 09:30 |
sxpert | ah no, it's the default setup that does that | 09:30 |
sxpert | hmm; it's just plain wierd :D | 09:31 |
sxpert | yay, it works :D | 09:32 |
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sxpert | tigert, now I just need one of those nokia bluetooth gps receivers :D | 09:33 |
tigert | yea | 09:35 |
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zulla | dolfun: ping? | 10:23 |
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Guard][an | morning | 10:47 |
Guard][an | i made a test application: i open a window and i put something like 100 gtk buttons. gtk_widget_show_all(window) takes A LOT of time. i guess it's because of all the size requests and size allocations | 10:48 |
Guard][an | is there a way to speed this up ? | 10:48 |
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dolfun | zulla: | 11:01 |
tigert | Guard][an: and the pixmaps I guess | 11:02 |
tigert | the theme is sorta heavy, even thouhg sapwood does a lot of caching and shares the images | 11:02 |
tigert | but if you add a ton of widgets at once there must be some overhead | 11:02 |
Guard][an | yep but still, without parsing my gtkrc file it's also takes a lot of time | 11:03 |
Guard][an | well "a lot", far more than i expected | 11:03 |
inz | calling _show on a widget shouldn't do anything with it's gfx | 11:03 |
Guard][an | it's not at the time when you invoke show | 11:04 |
Guard][an | i guess the slowness happens when widgets are mapped | 11:04 |
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inz | Ah, then yes | 11:04 |
inz | I though that it was _show_all itself that was taking the time | 11:04 |
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Guard][an | also yesterday i managed to use a upnp server with media streamer | 11:08 |
Guard][an | it's very nifty! | 11:08 |
Guard][an | unfortunately my psp can't connect to the wap wlan cause i stick to 1.5 firmware for homebrew dev and there is no wap support :) | 11:09 |
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inz | is wap something between wpa and wep? | 11:16 |
Guardian | i don't think it's related at all | 11:18 |
tigert | wap is not related to wlan at all | 11:19 |
keesj | wap = is the protocol used to send wml pages to mobile phones kindof thing | 11:19 |
inz | or wireless access point | 11:19 |
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keesj | inz: it looks like you are from a new generation :p | 11:20 |
keesj | and you answer is more probable in this context | 11:20 |
inz | keesj, no, I do concider wap Wireless Application Protocol, but you need to understand the "new generations" | 11:20 |
inz | But wireless access point doesn't fit in guardian's description of PSP "problems" | 11:22 |
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Guardian | well it's just my old firmware has only support for WEP | 11:22 |
keesj | wmp->wap->wap-gateway(big troubles)->interne(tcpip/http)->website | 11:22 |
Guardian | and my wlan is secured by wpa | 11:22 |
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Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:26 |
inz | Guardian, yeah, you just used WAP instead of WPA (twice) | 11:26 |
Guardian | ah! | 11:26 |
Guardian | sorry my bad :) | 11:27 |
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Guardian | too early in the morning i gues ... *cough* | 11:27 |
inz | =) | 11:27 |
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dolfun | just call it an Access Point | 11:32 |
dolfun | AP | 11:32 |
Guardian | you mean, a Wireless Access Point ? :) | 11:42 |
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dolfun | in common computing situations, there is no other type of 'access point' in | 11:57 |
inz | what about wireful access points? | 12:00 |
dolfun | nobody calls a switch or a dsl router an 'access point' | 12:00 |
keesj | I think it's a bit different, | 12:01 |
keesj | the "access point" is used as opposed to different possible connectoin modes right? | 12:02 |
dolfun | true | 12:03 |
dolfun | lets see what google says | 12:03 |
dolfun | "wap" and "Wireless access point" 227,000 hits | 12:04 |
dolfun | "wap" and "Wireless application protocol" 1,070,000 hits | 12:04 |
inz | meh, googlefight.com requires flash | 12:05 |
inz | ooh, it didn't | 12:06 |
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bedboi | hi there. | 12:15 |
florian | hi bedboi | 12:16 |
bedboi | hey florian | 12:16 |
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zulla | dolfun: ping, again. (sorry, was afk) | 12:45 |
zulla | dolfun: you mentioned the H9 this morning. | 12:46 |
zulla | dolfun: actually, it's quite possible that one could install Maemo on it. | 12:47 |
zulla | dolfun: if someone wanted to. | 12:47 |
tigert | one interesting thing would be | 12:49 |
tigert | is to take one of thse swivel-touchscreen laptop "tablets" | 12:49 |
tigert | and install ubuntu and maemo on top | 12:50 |
tigert | i think it makes sense as a larger tablet ui. would need a fixed theme though | 12:50 |
tigert | since the maemo one is huge on regular monitor | 12:51 |
zulla | I'd rather want to see proper hwr and a good on-screen-keyboard as part of Gnome and KDE, so that I can use regular apps. | 12:51 |
zulla | Saw a Gnome developer working on that at CeBIT. | 12:51 |
zulla | He had a tablet and tries to integrate some hwr as an input method to Gnome. | 12:52 |
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keesj | I don't want gnome or kde :P I want gnome kde sdl X etc I want something genric | 12:52 |
keesj | I saw that it's possible for the x server to show graphics even when using a sdl app | 12:53 |
kkito | i think that xserver has an osd extension | 12:54 |
tigert | i think draggable windows etc dont make sense on a touchscreen unless it is huge | 12:54 |
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Jaffa | mgedmin: wassup? | 15:59 |
mgedmin | hardware keys not working | 16:00 |
mgedmin | (except for power and home) | 16:00 |
mgedmin | a reboot fixed it, then it worked for a while, then I foolishly locked the n800 before putting it in my pocket and now I can't unlock it -- hw keys don't work again | 16:00 |
mgedmin | stupid crappy software | 16:01 |
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dolfun_ | i tend to not use locking at all | 16:02 |
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Jaffa | mgedmin: I've noticed similar stuff for a few minutes coming out of a soft power-off. Very odd. | 16:11 |
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mgedmin | this morning when I lost my keys I didn't use locking, nor soft poweroff | 16:12 |
mgedmin | the keys just stopped working for no reason | 16:12 |
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neostrider | hello folks | 16:43 |
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rhsanborn | Anyone know where I can find inet tools (ping, etc) and if there is a port of wireless tools for the 800? | 16:51 |
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neostrider | there is kismet, i guess | 16:55 |
neostrider | those tools, if avaliable must be in the application catalog | 16:55 |
neostrider | im leaving | 16:55 |
neostrider | lunch | 16:55 |
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dolfun_ | rhsanborn: i forget what provides ping, i think a different kernel | 16:59 |
rhsanborn | dolfun_, ick | 16:59 |
rhsanborn | dolfun_, thanks. Sounds like a pain in the butt that I can avoid by grabbing the laptop and using that :P | 17:00 |
dolfun_ | really you just need to search, i think there are also app packages that provide it | 17:01 |
rhsanborn | dolfun_, I tried searching for inet tools, couldn't find anything via maemo garage. I'll try searching ping | 17:02 |
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kulve | mgedmin: do you have auto wlan connect on? | 17:07 |
rhsanborn | dolfun_, it's basic networking tools, available in maemo garage. Need to add that repo to my list. | 17:08 |
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dolfun_ | ah ok | 17:09 |
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bardax | hi | 17:17 |
dolfun_ | moo | 17:21 |
rhsanborn | bah, net tools are an "incompatible package" | 17:22 |
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rhsanborn | Oh well. I'll set up a box with ssh on it, That'll work just about as well | 17:24 |
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bardax | can anyone pls point me to a resource on installing bash on n800? | 17:26 |
kulve | for what? | 17:26 |
kulve | there shouldn't be many reasons for it.. | 17:27 |
rhsanborn | kulve, cuz its fun? :P | 17:27 |
jku | I tried building osso-pdf-viewer, and the package seems to be fine, but after the install the program won't start -- notification says "PDF reader loading" for 20 secs and then nothing... | 17:27 |
bardax | i prefer bash rather than ash | 17:28 |
kulve | then you can take it from debian and start cross compiling and installing the dependencies.. | 17:29 |
jku | Should packages built from the IT2007 source package (2.2006.51-6-srcs.tar.gz) be installable/working? | 17:29 |
kulve | I don't do much on the device, so the shell doesn't really matter.. | 17:29 |
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Elrond | Where are the docs on how to get hildon and osso running on the desktop? | 18:42 |
kulve | inside the SB? | 18:43 |
kulve | http://maemo.org/platform/docs/how-to.html | 18:44 |
kulve | http://maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/Maemo_tutorial_bora.html | 18:44 |
Elrond | Ideally outside the SB. I don't have any nokie or alike. Just want the libs on my main box. | 18:45 |
kulve | well, you need the modified GTK for hildon and you really don't want to overwrite your stock version with it | 18:46 |
kulve | so you may need to compile a lot of stuff in some not-usr prefix | 18:46 |
kulve | or install sb x86 rootstrap on chroot or something.. | 18:47 |
kulve | probably the SB would still be the best choice.. | 18:47 |
Elrond | Ahh. | 18:48 |
Elrond | I see Bug #823... | 18:48 |
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Elrond | ... just to get one tiny app compiled.... | 18:52 |
kulve | it's not a big deal to install SB. If you are lucky the maemo-installer script may do the whole thing for you ;) | 18:53 |
kulve | or you can try out the vmware image | 18:53 |
Elrond | Ahh, vmware image might be an idea. | 18:56 |
Elrond | Where is that? | 18:57 |
kulve | http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/702 | 18:57 |
kulve | I haven't tried that at all.. | 18:57 |
kulve | but I'm off now | 18:57 |
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thomasvs | hi. is there an rsync deb somewhere for the n800 ? | 18:58 |
timeless | hello world | 18:59 |
timeless | has anyone here heard of "e-mail over sms"? | 18:59 |
Elrond | kulve - Thanks. | 18:59 |
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mgedmin | kulve: no, I disabled auto wlan connections (too hard on battery life) | 19:10 |
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snorkelyd | vertigo | 19:13 |
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Elrond | Oh well, thanks guys for today. | 19:19 |
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melmoth | Grumble.... I bought a borked 2G card from nokia.... | 19:24 |
melmoth | I exchanegd it, 1 month afterward... i receive another broken one... | 19:25 |
Tak | awesome to the max | 19:25 |
melmoth | is there an badblock option of some sort int he n800 mkfs.vfat ? | 19:25 |
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timeless | tigert: ping | 19:34 |
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melmoth | hmm actually, no input output error if i use the internal card reader | 19:47 |
melmoth | and no input output error if i use a 256M card on the external card reader | 19:47 |
melmoth | does this ring any bell ? | 19:47 |
glas55 | tried a different card reader? | 19:49 |
dolfun | Xsp doubling has some serious issues with sdl | 19:49 |
glas55 | some 2g sd card didn't work on my old reader | 19:49 |
melmoth | i do not have any other card reader. but with the former one, it gave io error with both reader in the n800 | 19:49 |
glas55 | oh | 19:50 |
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tko | hildon-1 and hildon-desktop should be runnable against stock gtk | 19:54 |
koen | tko: yay!!!! | 19:54 |
koen | I'd build it if I wouldn't be in the cinema in ~10 minutes | 19:54 |
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tko | hmm, or at least I recall seeing a patch for that | 19:57 |
tko | MDK hasn't applied it it seems | 19:58 |
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MDK | afaik the recent GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_ for infoprints broke it | 20:19 |
tko | you should've applied it sooner :) | 20:19 |
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Elrond | Anyone around, who works on maemo-mapper? | 21:07 |
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mgedmin | does anyone know how the more-gconv-modules hack is supposed to work? | 21:12 |
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dolfun | anybody actually done performance profiling on a 770? | 21:30 |
Tak | I know ssvb and keesj have done quite a bit of that kind of thing | 21:32 |
Tak | I suppose everybody who's tried to shoehorn an almost-fast-enough app onto an IT has done so | 21:32 |
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dolfun | i don't need to really, what's it called - gprof? | 21:33 |
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melmoth | T es ouf ??? | 21:46 |
melmoth | oups | 21:46 |
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sbaturzio | Aloha! | 22:02 |
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jku | Anyone familiar with python packaging? | 22:15 |
jku | I've understood that on debian only source files are distributed, and they're precompiled in a postinstall script... | 22:15 |
mgedmin | yes | 22:16 |
* mgedmin is only slightly familiar | 22:16 | |
jku | But the compileall.py script is in python-dev, should I really depend on that? | 22:16 |
Tak | see how another python-based package does it? | 22:17 |
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jku | will do | 22:17 |
Tak | also, are we talking about a python package that's going to target the ITs? | 22:17 |
jku | yes | 22:17 |
jku | That's why I'm worried about depending on a 15MB -dev package | 22:17 |
Tak | in that case, (imo) it doesn't make much sense to compile it in the postinstall stage | 22:18 |
jku | why is that? | 22:18 |
Tak | 1) you know exactly what configuration you're targeting | 22:18 |
Tak | 2) it's going to be slow as hell on the device | 22:18 |
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jku | true, that solves it. Thanks | 22:18 |
mgedmin | hm, I think that python programs in debian don't depend on python-dev | 22:20 |
mgedmin | in ubuntu, /usr/lib/python2.4/compileall.py is in python2.4-minimal | 22:20 |
mgedmin | for maemo it probably makes sense to ship .pyc files in the .deb | 22:21 |
mgedmin | or perhaps skip them, they're just an optimisation | 22:21 |
jku | mgedmin, you're right. It was just pymaemo that had compileall in -dev | 22:22 |
jku | s/had/has/ | 22:22 |
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Tuomas | Anyone aware of any placemarking application for 770/N800, which could save routes and placemarks and export to kml/gpx? | 22:28 |
Tuomas | If there isn't any yet, I will propose it as Google Summer of Code project... :) | 22:30 |
bergie | Tuomas: some placemarks can be stored in Maemo Mapper, but I think there is no "export to kml" feature | 22:30 |
Elrond | Tuomas - maema-mapper can export to gpx, I think. | 22:31 |
Tuomas | I wasn't able to mark places with maemo-mapper, but that might be because it wasn't connected to GPS | 22:32 |
Elrond | <-- still looking for a mapper developer. | 22:32 |
Tak | it's no good; most mapper developers are dwarves | 22:33 |
* mgedmin ponders Tak's meaning for a minute, then gives up | 22:34 | |
mgedmin | ? | 22:34 |
Tak | elrond... | 22:35 |
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Elrond | Tak - tihi. I'm not too bad to dwarves. | 22:39 |
Tak | sure, but they're not going to want to hang around rivendell all the time, eating your crappy elvish food and being hit on by your no-curves, no-beards elvish women | 22:40 |
Elrond | *G* | 22:41 |
Elrond | We can meet on neutral area. :) | 22:41 |
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Elrond | Hi koen! | 22:41 |
Elrond | Tak - So where should they meet with me? | 22:42 |
Tak | well, moria used to be good for that kind of thing | 22:42 |
Elrond | Nobody was there for centuries. ;) | 22:43 |
Elrond | Tak - Will you ask the dwarves to come? | 22:43 |
koen | hey Elrond | 22:47 |
acydlord | lmao | 22:49 |
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Elrond | Tak - So? | 22:54 |
Tak | I dunno, there's a big smithing convention next week | 22:55 |
Tak | and the beard fashion shows in the iron mountains the week after that | 22:55 |
Elrond | tihi | 22:56 |
Elrond | On the weekend between them? | 22:56 |
jku | Elrond, what do you mean, looking for a mapper developer? | 22:57 |
Elrond | jku - Someone who works on maemo-mapper. | 22:57 |
* mgedmin once sent a tiny-tiny patchlet for maemo-mapper, does that count? | 22:58 | |
Elrond | mgedmin - Was it included? | 22:58 |
mgedmin | yes | 22:58 |
Elrond | Good. :) | 22:59 |
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Elrond | I consider slowly splitting off parts from the single 455kB file into more structured files. Want to talk to someone before investing more time. | 23:00 |
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