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| acydlord | is maemo updated for the stupid USA DST change? | 06:35 |
| dragorn | i believe yes | 06:37 |
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| eeejay | DST is not stupid | 06:43 |
| eeejay | DST saves lives | 06:43 |
| acydlord | lol | 06:44 |
| acydlord | they still dont have arizona in the time tables for the gui | 06:44 |
| acydlord | which is retarded since i cant just pick another city in my time zone | 06:44 |
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| acydlord | i need to go to radio shack and pick up some ir diodes to see if they will make the cam look less chitty in low light | 07:36 |
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| xnix | anyone around | 07:57 |
| xnix | Im trying to make a deb of a command line app in scratchbox and just getting this at the end | 07:58 |
| xnix | /scratchbox/compilers/cs2005q3.2-glibc-arm/bin/sbox-arm-linux-as: unrecognized option `-Qy' | 07:58 |
| xnix | error: command '/scratchbox/compilers/host-gcc/bin/gcc' failed with exit status 1 | 07:58 |
| xnix | ive done some googling but cant seem to find a solution, i think i can prob do without the -Qy option to the assembler, but I cant find where to get rid of it... Iguess this assembler doesnt support that option? | 07:58 |
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| xnix | anyone? | 08:03 |
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| keesj | xnix: are you inside scratchbox , did you run /scratchbox/login ? | 08:29 |
| xnix | yup | 08:30 |
| xnix | i compile other things successfull | 08:30 |
| xnix | like | 08:30 |
| xnix | one-file things just using cc | 08:30 |
| xnix | when i try to make a bigger projects using debian tools i get the -Qy error | 08:30 |
| keesj | perhaps you are the first person ever to try to compile it for arm? | 08:31 |
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| xnix | keesj: well there are older packages for it | 08:31 |
| xnix | that the maintainer doesnt keep up and dont work anymore | 08:31 |
| xnix | gpsd | 08:31 |
| xnix | is what im trying to do | 08:31 |
| keesj | this one libgpsbt | 08:32 |
| xnix | err | 08:32 |
| xnix | http://www.elisanet.fi/tapio.tolvanen/nokia770.html | 08:32 |
| xnix | that guy has older packages that no longer install | 08:32 |
| xnix | its a gps daemon | 08:32 |
| xnix | that will read data from a serial GPS device | 08:32 |
| xnix | and provide it to other apps | 08:33 |
| xnix | i have the gps plugged into my nokia fin, and I compiled some small serial term apps to test and make sure everything was working | 08:33 |
| keesj | If you give me the source url I can give it a quick try | 08:33 |
| xnix | nokia seems to be reading gps data fine | 08:33 |
| xnix | keesj: ok one sec | 08:33 |
| keesj | what nokia are you targeting? | 08:34 |
| xnix | http://prdownload.berlios.de/gpsd/gpsd-2.34.tar.gz | 08:34 |
| xnix | 770 | 08:34 |
| xnix | that is the exact source im working with | 08:34 |
| xnix | i dont have an 800, and prob wont get one | 08:34 |
| xnix | i like the cover on the 770 more anyway :D | 08:34 |
| keesj | xnix: I love it also , I run it2007-hackers on the 770 , and I just love it | 08:35 |
| xnix | yeah i saw that 2007 hack thing | 08:35 |
| xnix | but im not too too interested | 08:35 |
| xnix | once i get gpsd working on here, im gonna try and start writing a nice little ham radio app | 08:36 |
| xnix | for APRS | 08:36 |
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| keesj | I am booth trying to build the .deb based gpsd and the url you sent me | 08:38 |
| xnix | you mean the one from the guys site? | 08:39 |
| xnix | versus the clean source from the project | 08:39 |
| xnix | i actually got the source code from that guys site to compile just now | 08:39 |
| xnix | had to change arm to armel | 08:39 |
| xnix | in control | 08:39 |
| xnix | and it seemed to work | 08:39 |
| xnix | still cant get the projects clean source to compile... plus its a much newer version from the project site | 08:39 |
| keesj | no , it' looks like there is an existing debian archieve for gpsd . | 08:40 |
| xnix | aaah | 08:40 |
| xnix | there is | 08:40 |
| xnix | but | 08:40 |
| xnix | it includes gpsd-clients | 08:40 |
| xnix | and stuff | 08:40 |
| xnix | i believe...at least the ubuntu one did | 08:40 |
| xnix | included a lot more than what i want at least | 08:41 |
| xnix | hmm | 08:43 |
| xnix | it seems to actually be working, the old source from that guys site | 08:44 |
| keesj | xnix: did you get the error right away? or did it first coompile? | 08:45 |
| keesj | (I am compiling on a 40 euro machine so it takes some time) | 08:45 |
| xnix | got the error right away | 08:46 |
| xnix | im trying to connect to the gpsd server on my nokia from this machine | 08:46 |
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| xnix | and its just crashing | 08:47 |
| xnix | but it is reading data from the gps | 08:47 |
| xnix | then crashing | 08:47 |
| xnix | keesj: if it works that would be sweet, let me know | 08:47 |
| keesj | I get it at the end :p | 08:47 |
| keesj | /scratchbox/compilers/cs2005q3.2-glibc-arm/bin/sbox-arm-linux-strip: Unable to r | 08:48 |
| keesj | ecognise the format of the input file `debian/gpsd/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packag | 08:48 |
| keesj | es/gpspacket.so' | 08:48 |
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| xnix | from the stock debian one? | 08:48 |
| xnix | yeah i think i had that | 08:48 |
| keesj | no from the url you sent | 08:48 |
| keesj | I am using mud to build | 08:49 |
| xnix | ah hmm | 08:49 |
| xnix | mud? | 08:49 |
| xnix | not familiar with it | 08:49 |
| keesj | only a few people are :p | 08:49 |
| keesj | http://mud-builder.garage.maemo.org/index.php | 08:49 |
| keesj | I need to walk the dog and go to work. | 08:50 |
| xnix | ahh looks pretty cool | 08:51 |
| xnix | alright, thanks for trying this for me anyway | 08:51 |
| xnix | i wish i could find out where i could just take those stupid arguments away from the assembler | 08:51 |
| xnix | then i think it would work fine | 08:51 |
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| xnix | hmm apparently gpsd comes on the n800 | 08:58 |
| xnix | grr | 08:58 |
| sxpert | xnix, that should be a good thing no ? | 08:59 |
| sxpert | if they compiled it with the right option, it should use my dbus stuff, and broacast a message every second on the system bus | 09:00 |
| xnix | well its a good thing if i had an 800 | 09:02 |
| xnix | sxpert: you have any experience compiling apps for maemo/arm? | 09:02 |
| sxpert | not really :D | 09:02 |
| xnix | heh ok | 09:02 |
| xnix | do u have an 800? | 09:03 |
| xnix | see if it has gpsd on it | 09:03 |
| sxpert | no, I only have a 770 | 09:04 |
| sxpert | with no gpsd on it | 09:04 |
| sxpert | (yet, I guess) | 09:05 |
| xnix | hehe | 09:05 |
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| xnix | lets see if i can grab their n800 package | 09:08 |
| xnix | and try to make it work | 09:08 |
| xnix | for me | 09:08 |
| sxpert | have fun ;D | 09:10 |
| xnix | its compiling now | 09:10 |
| * xnix crosses fingers | 09:10 | |
| xnix | it does have dbus stuff compiled in hehe | 09:11 |
| xnix | like u said | 09:11 |
| xnix | i may take it out though for now | 09:11 |
| xnix | wow | 09:11 |
| xnix | it finished | 09:11 |
| * xnix gets excited | 09:11 | |
| xnix | installing on my nokia now | 09:13 |
| xnix | wow | 09:14 |
| xnix | :D:D:D | 09:14 |
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| xnix | alright im out | 09:24 |
| xnix | later | 09:24 |
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| inz | sxpert, doing anything every second sounds like a bad idea on a battery-operated system | 09:55 |
| sxpert | inz, well, when you use a gps it will speak to you every second. | 09:55 |
| inz | sxpert, ah, then I guess you simply lose ;) | 09:56 |
| sxpert | yeah | 09:57 |
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| sxpert | you can use a larger battery in a back pack and a car adapter :d | 09:57 |
| superbia | Hi, anyone looked at the armel debian distro growing? seems like it might work quite well with n800 :) | 09:58 |
| sxpert | inz, I use that when I go for mapping trips | 10:01 |
| zuh | superbia: I just downloaded it an thought I'd give it a go (now that I have a 4GB SDHC card there ;) | 10:03 |
| Eloi | zuh: keep us informed ;) | 10:06 |
| superbia | zuh: hehe I got a 2gb so I was thinking about it too... I been using quite a few programs from it when maemo is lacking and they work... just onscreen keyboard I am wondering about before I reflash ^^ | 10:07 |
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| sbaturzioAtWork | Aloha! | 10:47 |
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| mk8 | Hi to all .... | 10:47 |
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| superbia | anyone get a easy way to backup your current rootfs? | 10:55 |
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| ptman_ | superbia: can't the flasher do it? | 10:56 |
| kulve | ptman_: I think not | 10:57 |
| X-Fade_ | Use dd or tar ;) | 10:57 |
| superbia | ptman_: hmm good question... didn't see anything from help | 10:57 |
| kulve | I think the easiest way is to use gnu(?) tar.. | 10:58 |
| ptman_ | ok, my bad | 10:58 |
| ptman_ | you can always use dd | 10:58 |
| superbia | dd? | 10:58 |
| ptman_ | man dd | 10:58 |
| superbia | ahh okay thanks | 10:58 |
| ptman_ | but I don't know how to put back and image taken with dd | 10:59 |
| superbia | haha okay... tar seems better then | 10:59 |
| kulve | yeah, I think tar would be better.. | 10:59 |
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| ptman_ | at best you can probably mount it on a desktop computer and take useful files from it | 10:59 |
| kulve | hmm. actually I was now thinking about copying to mmc.. | 10:59 |
| kulve | so, nm | 10:59 |
| superbia | well yeah... I want to backup root fs and copy backup to sd card and give debian armel a shoot | 11:00 |
| kulve | boot the debian armel from mmc | 11:01 |
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| tigert | morn | 11:10 |
| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:11 |
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| tigert | heya mr. dent | 11:29 |
| Guard][an | morning maemo | 11:30 |
| Guard][an | wow, size-requests and size-allocates are slow when you have tons of widgets | 11:30 |
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| Tenkawa | morning all | 11:47 |
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| [mbm] | hmm is there instructions for the maemo-mapper poi? | 11:54 |
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| superbia | anyone got an alternative site for the ext2 kernel for n800? the one directed to from maemo.org seems to be down | 12:13 |
| [mbm] | even the factory kernels come with ext2/ext3 modules | 12:14 |
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| superbia | ohh? hmm then something else is wrong | 12:15 |
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| zuh | they are not loaded by default | 12:19 |
| superbia | it was a path error... resolved it | 12:19 |
| * zuh already runs GIMP ;) | 12:19 | |
| superbia | GIMP on a tablet? :D | 12:20 |
| zuh | too bad that most the gnome stuff depends on control-center and it doesn't seem to be available atm | 12:22 |
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| [mbm] | I tried running gimp just by exporting the display from another machine .. worked but the way maemo matchbox renders all windows full screen makes it annoying to use | 12:27 |
| zuh | I use metacity :P | 12:27 |
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| bedboi | is there any howto about running maemo on PC with resolution different from 800x480? | 12:28 |
| bedboi | i read something on karoliina's blog iirc | 12:28 |
| bedboi | i'm interested in it as long as i have a tablet laptop (thinkpad x41) | 12:29 |
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| superbia | how do I make a jffs2 if I got a tar.gz? | 12:33 |
| kulve | mkfs.jffs2 | 12:34 |
| superbia | I can make a jffs2 image of a tar gz with that? okay | 12:35 |
| kulve | you may need to untar it. Dunno | 12:36 |
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| superbia | yeah... it reads from directory | 12:38 |
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| __dan__ | Anyone know where x server log messages can be found on the n800? As in LogMessage calls from inside X. | 12:39 |
| __dan__ | /var/log is pretty much empty | 12:39 |
| superbia | hmm "File size limit exceeded" doesn't sound good | 12:42 |
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| Veggen | dan: If you install sysklogd package, you get more. | 12:44 |
| Veggen | (maybe you need to start it manually, too) | 12:44 |
| __dan__ | Veggen: more? I can't even find where they end up. What file are they sent to? | 12:45 |
| __dan__ | Veggen: Ah, you mean more files are created...? | 12:45 |
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| Veggen | yes. | 12:46 |
| Veggen | syslog doesn't run. | 12:46 |
| Veggen | (normally) | 12:46 |
| Veggen | but, hmm. Doubt the X server uses it. | 12:46 |
| Veggen | Maybe logging is turned off, from X. | 12:46 |
| Veggen | Hmm. /tmp/xserver.log ? | 12:48 |
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| __dan__ | Veggen: doesn't look like it :( | 12:49 |
| __dan__ | I'm already building my own xserver, so if I just knew how to "turn logging back on" (if that's really what's needed), fine. | 12:50 |
| Veggen | Mm, guess you can dig out how to config Xomap. | 12:56 |
| Veggen | meeting in 4 minutes, so I have no time to dig more now. | 12:56 |
| __dan__ | Yea, I dug already :( | 12:56 |
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| timeless | is anyone here familiar w/ PAN? | 13:18 |
| cosmo__ | well, i use it | 13:19 |
| inz | I tried to port it, but gave up | 13:19 |
| timeless | does it work w/ the 770 or n800? | 13:19 |
| cosmo__ | not on maemo though | 13:19 |
| cosmo__ | there doesn't seem to be package available at garage | 13:21 |
| timeless | ok, how about a simpler question | 13:21 |
| timeless | what's the max number of characters in a bluetooth device name? :) | 13:22 |
| suihkulokki | mmm.. tla collision? | 13:23 |
| suihkulokki | pan = newsreader vs pan = bluetooth networking | 13:24 |
| timeless | i wrote PAN, not pan, right? :) | 13:25 |
| ptman_ | that's exactly why I try to remember to refer to software like: pan(1) and to TLAs in upper-case: PAN | 13:25 |
| cosmo__ | i'm talking about pimp ass newsreader, dunno about the other PAN | 13:26 |
| timeless | reader.google.com and groups.google.com work quite nicely, thank you | 13:26 |
| timeless | they aren't interesting :) | 13:26 |
| VRe | Hmm.. I think my n800 is frying memorycards. One mmc down and now sd has broken too | 13:27 |
| ptman_ | timeless: those don't work offline... | 13:27 |
| timeless | offline? never heard of it | 13:27 |
| ptman_ | =) | 13:27 |
| cosmo__ | timeless: those don't support all servers i want to read | 13:27 |
| timeless | is your cell phone broken? :) | 13:27 |
| ptman_ | timeless: it costs, and is slower, as I don't have anything faster than GPRS right now | 13:28 |
| timeless | actually, i'm using wifi+vpn atm w/ my laptop and just want my device to use PAN to get the connection from my laptop | 13:28 |
| ptman_ | that would rock, but I really doubt if PAN works on maemo | 13:28 |
| timeless | and yes, i know if i could get my device to download packages, i could make it waste cpu cycles and battery life doing its own vpn work | 13:29 |
| timeless | that said, my device needs the network first :) | 13:29 |
| ptman_ | timeless: http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HOWTO-BluetoothNetworking | 13:29 |
| ptman_ | timeless: http://maemo.org/maemowiki/BluetoothNetworkingAndConnectionManager | 13:29 |
| ptman_ | try those for starters | 13:29 |
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| timeless | thanks | 13:31 |
| ptman | you're welcome | 13:31 |
| timeless | since you seem to know something about bluetooth | 13:32 |
| timeless | how about another question :) | 13:32 |
| timeless | one of the devices in my list is: | 13:32 |
| ptman | don't ask to ask, just ask =) | 13:32 |
| timeless | "System error. Contact service." | 13:32 |
| timeless | what kind of device name is that? | 13:32 |
| timeless | it seems kinda long | 13:32 |
| ptman | interesting | 13:32 |
| ptman | I think it's a name returned when the system doesn't work | 13:32 |
| timeless | that'd be nice, if i could find any evidence that the system has such a string | 13:33 |
| timeless | so far, i've failed miserably in my search | 13:33 |
| ptman | it might even be in the bt firmware for all I know | 13:33 |
| timeless | hrm, i should google :) | 13:33 |
| ptman | or maybe on the remote device | 13:33 |
| ptman | do you see other devices? | 13:33 |
| timeless | dozens | 13:34 |
| timeless | this seems to be a "phone" | 13:34 |
| timeless | whereas there are a couple of laptops | 13:34 |
| ptman | right, so you have no nice way of identifying which device returns such an odd name? | 13:34 |
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| timeless | and dozens of phones, and a hardware device, and a pda | 13:35 |
| timeless | well, i've seeen /someone/ who knew how to manually enumerate bluetooth devices | 13:35 |
| timeless | i think it /might/ have been done w/ gnome-vfs ? | 13:35 |
| timeless | i have an x terminal | 13:35 |
| timeless | but i don't speak gnome-vfs :( | 13:35 |
| ptman | hcitool? | 13:35 |
| ptman | in the terminal | 13:35 |
| ptman | or sdptool | 13:36 |
| superbia | hm can't get it too boot nativly from the debian armel rootfs... :S | 13:36 |
| ptman | can't really remember the names | 13:36 |
| ptman | I usually just dpkg -L bluez-utils | 13:36 |
| ptman | and pick the tools from there | 13:36 |
| timeless | i have both of those | 13:37 |
| ptman | play around with them | 13:37 |
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| timeless | hcitool scan sounds promising | 13:37 |
| timeless | ok, got it | 13:38 |
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| timeless | i have a bluetooth id | 13:38 |
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| ptman | try using hcitool lq <btaddr> | 13:39 |
| ptman | lq is link quality | 13:39 |
| ptman | you should be able to pinpoint the source | 13:39 |
| timeless | lq: Not connected. info: Can't create connection: Operation not permitted | 13:40 |
| ptman | damn | 13:40 |
| ptman | as you can see, my expertise ends here | 13:40 |
| timeless | (info is a different verb) | 13:40 |
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| makuchaku | Anyone able to get gcc running on N800? | 16:22 |
| kulve | why? | 16:23 |
| makuchaku | kulve: compiling on the device itself... in the time of crunch :) | 16:24 |
| makuchaku | kulve: no very obvious use - as compared to the sbox, but can be handy at times... | 16:24 |
| pyhimys | kulve: imagine a beowulf-build-cluster made of N800s!!1 ... or maybe not | 16:24 |
| makuchaku | :) | 16:24 |
| pyhimys | makuchaku: you can't build on some other host? | 16:24 |
| kulve | well, somebody put up an arm computer for compiling native | 16:25 |
| pyhimys | I used to have freebsd on a thinkpad 560x | 16:26 |
| makuchaku | pyhimys: yes, you can... but a gcc for the device would be nice addition | 16:26 |
| makuchaku | kulve: do you remember the url... or even parts of it so i can google :) | 16:26 |
| pyhimys | running 'make buildworld' took days | 16:26 |
| kulve | hmm. People are now testing debian armel port on n800 | 16:26 |
| kulve | maybe that could be used? | 16:27 |
| kulve | dunno if they already have gcc there though.. | 16:27 |
| makuchaku | hmm | 16:27 |
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| kulve | makuchaku: it was in the dev mailing list, but I can't find the thread now.. | 16:30 |
| makuchaku | kulve: searching that only :) | 16:30 |
| keesj | kulve there was a blog post of Jaffa about installing debian and using vnc to have keyboard entry | 16:33 |
| keesj | http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-February/008480.html | 16:35 |
| keesj | and http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa?cat=18 | 16:35 |
| keesj | I Have been trying to get oe up and running for the last few day , but people where not very helpfull :( | 16:37 |
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| kender | hello | 16:38 |
| keesj | Hi | 16:38 |
| kender | hye keesj :D | 16:38 |
| makuchaku | kulve, pyhimys check out http://mud-builder.garage.maemo.org/index.php | 16:39 |
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| keesj | perhaps tiny c compiler will work? | 16:40 |
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| xnix | keesj: i got the N800 version of gpsd compiled on my 770 | 16:53 |
| xnix | working fine | 16:53 |
| ajturner | nice xnix | 16:58 |
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| keesj | xnix: is that using the "new" location api? | 17:20 |
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| xnix | keesj: im not even sure | 18:06 |
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| xnix | but i installed libgpsmgr too for my 770 so that i can have the basic API | 18:06 |
| xnix | to turn gpsd on and off and query it from my app | 18:06 |
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| bipolar | Is there any way I can set up my n800 so that when I hook up the usb cable the pc sees the external sd card instead of the internal one? | 19:25 |
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| chibiAcyd | it should see both | 19:28 |
| bipolar | chibiAcyd: hmm... at least on my Ubuntu box it only sees the main file system | 19:29 |
| bipolar | maybe it acts diffrently on windows | 19:29 |
| chibiAcyd | probably, i've yet to load it up in linux | 19:30 |
| bipolar | ok | 19:34 |
| bipolar | I found the problem | 19:34 |
| bipolar | the 2nd sd card was mismounted | 19:34 |
| bipolar | hmm... every time I plug in the usb cord, the 2nd card is inaccessable again. | 19:35 |
| derf | Is that the internal one? | 19:43 |
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| bipolar | derf: no, the external one. I moved root to the internal one. | 19:52 |
| bipolar | I think thats why the n800 is so confused | 19:53 |
| derf | Man, you're brave. I couldn't even get it to stop continually giving me I/O errors on the internal one. | 19:53 |
| bipolar | derf: you need to have the proper setup. formatted as ext2, and partitioned | 19:53 |
| bipolar | derf: the HDSD patched kernel helps too | 19:54 |
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| bipolar | man... this thing is being a pain | 19:58 |
| jamey | is there a version of glade that works with Hildon? | 20:00 |
| jamey | hi bipolar | 20:01 |
| bipolar | jamey: hi | 20:01 |
| derf | Uh, isn't there one installed by default? | 20:01 |
| bipolar | jamey: ahh.. it's you :) been a while | 20:01 |
| bipolar | jamey: how's everything? | 20:02 |
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| bipolar | well, gnucash seems to be quite useable on the n800's screen size | 20:03 |
| bipolar | I ran it over X forwarding and it's works good | 20:03 |
| bipolar | now we just need a maemo'ized port :) | 20:03 |
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| bipolar | actualy, it probbly just needs the input integrated | 20:05 |
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| shackan | dhcp connections don't change the dns servers accordingly anymore (manually changing /etc/resolv.conf works, tough) since I haven't found anything in the archives, where should I look at? (ie: what program is supposed to set the new nameservers and in what files is this parameter stored?) | 20:53 |
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| sp3000 | shackan: dnsmasq | 21:15 |
| thoughtfix | Good afternoon. | 21:15 |
| sp3000 | i see your afternoon and raise you an evening | 21:15 |
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| thoughtfix | I'm ready for evening | 21:17 |
| thoughtfix | then I'm out of work :) | 21:17 |
| shackan | sp3000, what if it won't work? | 21:18 |
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| sp3000 | don't know an especially likely reason why it wouldn't | 21:19 |
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| thoughtfix | I miss my tablets :( | 21:30 |
| dyncorp | Yay, jussik sent me his Ur-Quan Masters diff for the 770 | 21:32 |
| thoughtfix | How's the playability? | 21:32 |
| dyncorp | haven't gotten it running yet. i did hack UQM to make melee speed slower, so when i get it working, i'll be able to put in a command line for difficulty | 21:33 |
| thoughtfix | nice. | 21:33 |
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| thoughtfix | chenjesu! | 21:33 |
| dyncorp | it will also probably need fceu-style onscreen buttons on the right, | 21:33 |
| thoughtfix | *boom* | 21:33 |
| dyncorp | heh, May the Ultron be with you... | 21:33 |
| thoughtfix | I played Star Control for hours on my 286/12 | 21:34 |
| dyncorp | i just discovered it 2004 and it's one of the most playable/enjoyable games of the 90s. | 21:35 |
| thoughtfix | I think one of my favorite low-cpu-power games that'd be great on the tablets: | 21:35 |
| thoughtfix | Scorched Earth or Worms | 21:35 |
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| zuh | Hmm, I think there was some scorched earth -type game for 770... | 21:36 |
| thoughtfix | Wasn't xscorch ported? I don't recall | 21:37 |
| thoughtfix | And ... don't forget to nominate your favorite apps for the Neato awards :D | 21:38 |
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| tzz | Dune ][ would be awesome on Maemo, it's all point and click anyhow. Good luck licensing it though :( | 21:42 |
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| tzz | Warlords would be nice. | 21:43 |
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| dyncorp | heh, stick to open source games :P | 21:44 |
| tzz | generally the 770/N800 are terrible for action games, they are better for strategy. Things like Panzer Command, Civilization, etc. that don't require quick key presses. | 21:44 |
| dyncorp | right. there's an online RPG called daemonin. It needs 800x600, but i did a UI mockup for 800x480 http://home.arcor.de/arnim.sauerbier/maemonin2.png | 21:44 |
| thoughtfix | Right - turn-based games | 21:45 |
| tzz | I wish the N800 had a tilt sensor so a game like flOw (which I love on the PS3) was possible. Maybe a bluetooth device that sends arrow keypresses for tilt action exists? | 21:46 |
| thoughtfix | Heh... you could pair it with a wiimote ;) | 21:46 |
| tzz | I don't know much about the wiimote, is it a special profile? | 21:47 |
| dyncorp | open source worms clone: http://www.wormux.org/wiki/en/screenshot.php | 21:47 |
| tzz | if it could work, that would be nice. Just attach it to the bottom of the N800 somehow. | 21:47 |
| tzz | I remember something on the mailing list about this actually. | 21:47 |
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| thoughtfix | Shh that's him | 21:49 |
| thoughtfix | ;) | 21:49 |
| derf | Haha, someone ported Descent 2? | 21:50 |
| maddler | evening all... | 21:51 |
| thoughtfix | Evening? It's only 1 PM ;) | 21:51 |
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| thoughtfix | Anyone else remember SimulEyes VR? I had a pair of them long ago when playing Descent | 21:52 |
| maddler | hehehe... not my fault if you are somewhere else on the planet! :D | 21:53 |
| tzz | ok, this is a bizarre little game but I was obsessed with it, let's see if anyone remembers it. It was by a French game company, and the goal was to manipulate a dreaming brain into "happiness" fighting the bad dreams. It was late 80s/early 90s but I don't remember anything else about it, just the hours I spent rewiring the dreaming brain. | 21:53 |
| konfoo | simuleyes.. jesus | 21:53 |
| tzz | the game was for the PC btw | 21:54 |
| thoughtfix | Yep. My Descent arsenal was a Flightstick Pro, pedals, and Simuleyes. I was unstoppable. | 21:54 |
| thoughtfix | By unstoppable, I meant I only died half as much as I do in current FPS games... which means I lasted about 10 seconds per respawn ;) | 21:54 |
| dyncorp | tzz that's pretty obscure :) | 21:58 |
| tzz | dyncorp: yes, I'm googling it right now | 21:58 |
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| tzz | nah, I can't find it. oh well. It was entirely point-and-click interface, and I'm sure it would work well on Maemo. It's definitely abandonware at this point, the company has been gone for at least 10 years. | 22:01 |
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| melmoth | may be its listed there http://abandonware-france.org/ ? | 22:07 |
| dyncorp | jussik's UQM compiling howtos are here: http://home.arcor.de/arnim.sauerbier/UQM_compiling1.txt | 22:08 |
| dyncorp | and http://home.arcor.de/arnim.sauerbier/UQM_compiling2.txt | 22:08 |
| derf | Does it compile for the N800? | 22:09 |
| dyncorp | no, current state is os2005 only | 22:10 |
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| derf | Well, that's not useful (to me). | 22:10 |
| thoughtfix | DOH! My friend with my N800 now has a reboot loop. Never happened to me. Wonder what he did to it. | 22:11 |
| dyncorp | Ask not what UQM can do for you. Ask what you can do for UQM. :P | 22:11 |
| derf | What I can do is nothing. I go out of town for two weeks tomorrow. | 22:12 |
| ptman | thoughtfix: for me taking the battery out for a minute helped | 22:13 |
| X-Fade_ | Hmm swdec is rapidly becoming an alternative to the closed blob on our devices :) | 22:13 |
| X-Fade_ | http://www.advogato.org/person/company/diary.html?start=34 | 22:13 |
| X-Fade_ | Swfdec even.. | 22:14 |
| thoughtfix | ptman: I'll tell him | 22:14 |
| konfoo | anyone working on mono apps for the n800? | 22:17 |
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| derf | thoughtfix: If that doesn't do it, putting it in development mode and disabling the watchdogs also helps. | 22:18 |
| derf | s/development/R&D | 22:19 |
| thoughtfix | if he can't get it to work on his own, I'll just re-flash it | 22:19 |
| thoughtfix | I have no idea what kind of "breaking" he did | 22:19 |
| ptman | does he like it? | 22:20 |
| thoughtfix | He was loving it up til this. I'll have his guest review up in another week or so | 22:21 |
| dyncorp | any news on n770 / n800 sales figures? | 22:23 |
| thoughtfix | I keep looking for that. Nokia never really announced them. | 22:24 |
| thoughtfix | They only said the 770 did "about as well as they expected" | 22:24 |
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| derf | Well, considering it's plastered on the front page of their store, hopefully "as well as they expected" is pretty good. | 22:25 |
| dragorn | I saw a buy.com tv commercial featuring the n800 today | 22:26 |
| derf | Was it free after rebate? | 22:27 |
| derf | That's the only time I buy anything from buy.com. | 22:27 |
| dyncorp | well i've told everybody i know about the 770, and take it with me and i get a lot of questions about it | 22:31 |
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| jku_ | dyncorp, FYI: I'm jhkukkon@cc.hut.fi / jussik at ITT forums. Just in case you have uqm related questions... | 22:39 |
| dyncorp | yeah he's the one who sent me his diffs. i'm compiling in scratchbox now | 22:39 |
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| thoughtfix | Hmm | 22:46 |
| thoughtfix | Sometimes I wish I knew how to code | 22:46 |
| derf | So learn. | 22:46 |
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| thoughtfix | Who has time? | 22:47 |
| thoughtfix | I'm content with letting others code/port. My strengths are hacking, tinkering, testing, and writing. | 22:48 |
| thoughtfix | Hmm ... I think I'll hack a Zip drive on my N800. Think of it: 100 megs of storage in the size of a floppy! | 22:50 |
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| Molagi | cool | 22:52 |
| bilboed | as opposed to ... 8gb in the size of a stamp ? | 22:53 |
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| thoughtfix | hehe | 23:03 |
| derf | Programmers spend a lot more time hacking, tinkering, and testing than they do writing code. | 23:03 |
| derf | Not so much on the writing, though. | 23:03 |
| dyncorp | "rks for OS2005 using the tremor ogg library | 23:05 |
| dyncorp | sorry | 23:05 |
| zyxulnag1 | derf: thats true | 23:05 |
| dyncorp | "For long hath teh Joe Average hacker awaited for this, a device that even the hacker whose laziness overcomes his hacker spirit can hack on." - maemo-hackers.org | 23:06 |
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| thoughtfix | Heh. | 23:10 |
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| thoughtfix | Well - no word back from Nokia on that resume/application I sent in for the "Maemo documentation/evangelist" position | 23:10 |
| Sulis | I see doom on the maemo site and there's an install for it, but the repo doesn't actually have anything... | 23:11 |
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| |mk8| | Hi to all .... | 23:24 |
| Sulis | hey |mk8| | 23:25 |
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| Sulis | does anyone have a .deb for doom? | 23:37 |
| dyncorp | http://nxdomain.org/770/lxdoom_1.4.2_arm.deb | 23:38 |
| dyncorp | ? | 23:38 |
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| Sulis | dyncorp: will that work on n800? | 23:40 |
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| florian | re | 23:44 |
| dyncorp | Sulis: i don't think so | 23:45 |
| Sulis | didn't think so :( | 23:45 |
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