IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2007-03-14

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bipolarhas anyone seen a port of Gnucash?00:27
bipolarIt would be awesome to have gnucash on the handheld, then access the gnucash db on the handheld via usbstorage with gnucash running on a pc00:28
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Tenkawabipolar: wow I second that opinion00:31
Tenkawathat would be a great app to port00:31
bipolarTenkawa: it would keep me from overspending :p00:31
bipolarTenkawa: and... with a Windows X server (stored on the nokia) I could run it when I'm on someone elses pc!00:32
Tenkawanothing is going to keep me from dooing that.. at least now I woud know right away how badly I was overspending though00:32
bipolarI should just try to compile it :)00:32
Tenkawaif I could get my maemo/scratchbox set up done theres a list of stuff I'd like to try to port00:32
bipolaror, first run it via remote X to see how it fixes the screen00:33
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unique311need some help01:36
unique311cloning in order to boot from mmc sucked....01:37
unique311very slow...01:37
dyncorp_you have fast mmc (kingston?)01:37
unique311how can i remove thae prompt that ask wether i want to boot from mmc?01:37
unique311i think i have a slow mmc....01:38
unique311now i want to remove that boot screen....and don't have a clue how to01:38
unique311chroot /mnt/initfs cal-tool --set-root-device ask:mmc201:38
unique311that command i think activated it..01:38
dyncorp_i don't know, search for cal-tool01:39
Veggenunique311: My guess is you run it again with --set-root-device <something else>01:40
unique311guessed the same thing....01:40
VeggenAnd you need to find what it's supposed to be.01:40
unique311searching right now01:40
acydlordisnt it supposed to be initfs?01:41
unique311got it01:41
dyncorp_and the answer is?01:42
unique311chroot /mnt/initfs cal-tool --set-root-device flash   (  sets it default to boot from internal flash01:42
unique311the ask: tells it to ask you on everyboot where you want to boot from01:42
unique311this tutorial states flash mmc and usb are the only valid set rootdevices..01:44
unique311only one way to find out...01:45
unique311k got it to boot from flash.....01:53
unique311now how do i get rid of the words at the very top that states booting from flash?01:53
unique311million dollar question01:53
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unique311well the answer to that one is i'm going to reflash the danm thing....01:57
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dyncorp_hatari is real nice Tak, if you haven't tried it yet02:31
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[mbm]hmm .. unique311 only needed to reflash initfs and not the entire damn device02:44
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dyncorp_boy, old games sucked, for the most part03:35
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syrinxhey! is there a sources.list with all the repositories that i can download from somewhere?03:54
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dyncorp_i found that disabling the slow/accurate cpu emulation sped things up a lot.  a lot of the old games stink, but it's a treat to see some of them start04:22
dyncorp_also i found that hatari didn't scale the ST mouse correctly when switching display resolution to a higher res (as when games start)04:23
dyncorp_so the touchpad or synergy mouse only addresses the top left of the screen04:23
dyncorp_not on all games though04:24
dyncorp_was cute to see Arkanoid, Ultima IV/V running on the 77004:24
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unique311after 2 flashes, last one because of a loop, caused b something i installed....i'm back....06:14
unique311sucks i have to reinstall everything i had on the danmed thing...thats my new nick for it Danmed Thing...06:15
unique311anybody listening or i'm i just chatting with self...06:15
unique311feell kinda crazy....06:15
unique311stop writting then unique31106:16
soleblazemine's currently in the loop thing..I've been to lazy to fix it06:23
unique311lazy to install the apps back on it...06:23
unique311maybe i'll keep it fresh06:23
unique311i need gain and irc on it...thats it06:24
soleblazewhat irc program do you use on it?06:26
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unique3112.8 version...06:26
soleblazecool..I'll have to try that sometime06:28
unique311its real good....didn't try the gaim irc...that should work, everything else for gaim was working real nicely..06:29
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soleblazeyeah.. I just use jabber with gateways for all the im stuff06:46
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derfHmm, so I can't seem to actually pull the logfile from the WBT-200 in Linux.08:12
derfI run through the HOWTO online, and it works up until I enter the gpsbabel command, which runs for a few seconds, then the device shuts off its bluetooth, powers off, and cannot be turned back on for several minutes (even if I remove the battery).08:13
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VReSeems my mmc card is broken now, "end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 612"09:21
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chibiAcydreformat it09:24
VReI'm running fsck.vfat with badblock find. I don't think formatting can remove hardware defect09:25
VReMaybe I could get it into warranty :)09:25
melmothsend it as soon as possibke09:28
melmoththose card are not covered for long09:28
melmoth3 monthes according to the nokia customer service shop i visitted with my broken one09:28
VReThis is kingstons 1G card, so I suppose when they say lifetime guarantee it would be so..09:30
makuchakuHi all, I want to have a look at osso-pdfviewer's code, where can I find the tarball?09:36
makuchakukulve: this is for Bora release?09:37
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makuchakukulve: how does one gets the code for a release? Say sardine? fetch from the svn? I checked up the Sardine pages, but couldnt find the osso-pdfviewer's SVN09:38
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kulvemakuchaku: depends on the package09:40
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makuchakukulve: how about osso-pdfviewer? :)09:41
kulveI dont understand what you want09:41
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kulveI think sardine is just a development stuff and it doesn't include nearly all that a official release has09:42
makuchakukulve: :) ok - I was interested in fixing a bug for the pdfviewer which comes with N800, I have my SDK set up. So was just looking for the app's source code :)09:42
makuchakukulve: agreed... but then is there a separate branch/place where these apps are built?09:43
X-Fademakuchaku: Yes. In an Nokia internal repository.09:45
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kulvemakuchaku: most of them are closed source, afaik09:46
makuchakuX-Fade: ok...09:46
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makuchakukulve: then how come we have source for these - i'm just curious :)09:47
makuchakukulve: Nokia released it?09:47
kulvenot all of them are closed source. I think the pdf viewer uses some gpl'ed pdf-engine and they have to release source for it09:47
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X-FadeThere are all sources of programs are/use GPL software09:50
makuchakuah... X-Fade, kulve thanks :)09:55
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JaffaMorning, all10:50
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floriangood morning11:31
AD-N770good morning11:33
dyncorp_hi, any scratchbox users around?11:33
dyncorp_oh nm :)11:34
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keesjoe is really mud on very strong steroides13:10
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lle2steroids are bad for you13:30
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Jaffakeesj: indeed13:49
kkitowhy is the tap and hold feature implemented like a gtk widget ?13:50
kkitoi think that i will be better if it was implemented on the mouse/touchscreen device driver....13:51
kkitoand the fullscreen button it isnt bind to the window manager....13:52
kkitoimo it is bad designed....13:53
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ptmanif the fullscreen button would be a window manager feature, then the menus would still be left on the screen...13:54
kkitoand the virtual keyboard.... it is not a real virtual keyboard device....13:54
kkitoptman, ?13:54
kkitoptman, kwin has it and the menus are ok13:54
ptmanthis is not really kwin we have on maemo, is it?13:55
kkitoptman, it is matchbox13:56
ptmanI mean, if the application wouldn't be aware of the  fullscreen mode, many useful layout optimizations would be impossible13:56
kkitoptman, the app can communicate with the window manager13:56
kkitoon X11R6/713:56
ptmanand which of these is more complex?13:57
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ptmanright now, most new applications will be written in hildon, which already handles the basic fullscreening all right13:57
kkitoptman, and? it is bad designed anyways13:58
ptmanit is a design decision, and I'm sure a lot of thought went into making it14:00
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kkitoptman, then the design of metacity and kwin that they has years of development are bad?14:01
kkitoand the
ptmanwhy would the development of kwin and metacity be bad? those window managers are just not meant for embedded devices14:04
ptmanand, while it makes interesting standards, cannot be applied as it is to embedded devices14:04
ptmansome corners have to be cut, some compromises made14:04
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inzlle2, should apt-get work within sb2?14:18
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makuchakuMy scratchbox installation is going nuts... I just installed Scratchbox 1.0.7 using and the installer showed me a success message - "You now have Scratchbox 1.0.7 'apophis' release installed."... but now when I install the maemo-sdk, I get an error saying - E: Scratchbox version is too old (scratchbox-core ).E: Scratchbox version is too old (scratchbox-core ). - where am I going wrong?14:25
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lle2inz: probably maybe?14:28
lle2I don't know, haven't tested14:28
lle2I wouldn't be terribly surprised if it didn't14:28
bernardehi folks... I'm trying the "Distributing a Hello PyMaemo! application " from, but unfortunately I'm not able to start my app from the menu14:28
lle2but then again I didn't expect dpkg-buildpackage to work either14:28
bernardeif I run it with it works fine14:29
bernardeI have the .desktop, .service, and the icon, all in the right place. There is an entry in the menu, but when I click it shows the "loading" msg and nothing happens14:30
inzlle2, it didn't seem to work when I tried at least (used the system source dir etc)14:35
ptmaninz: for me apt-get works inside scratchbox14:37
inzptman, sure it does, but we're talking scratchbox2 here14:37
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lle2inz: yup, might need some additional special mappings14:43
lle2if you look at redir_scripts/preload/ (in the source tree) you will see how the mappings are done14:43
lle2inz: especially the 10_basic_chains.lua is interesting in this case14:44
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lle2basically you could instruct sb2 to map individual files from /etc for apt-get & co14:44
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lle2like /etc/apt/sources.list -> $buildroot/etc/apt/sources.list14:46
lle2and stuff14:46
lle2inz: you can start sb2 with --verbose option, it'll spit all file access and mappings to $buildroot/sb2_mappings.log14:49
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Mr_Dunha\whois Mr_Dunha14:53
jku__bit of  an identity problem there, huh?14:54
lle2yeah, not many know who they are, why they are here and where they are going14:54
chibiAcydhow hard would it be to port gftp?14:56
lle2./configure && make && make install?14:56
chibiAcydi need to get my linux box up and running again14:57
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keesjchibiAcyd: search on the wiki there was gui based ftp client.15:00
keesjperhaps also that opera handles ftp?15:00
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chibiAcydi have this overpowering feeling of laziness lol. probably because i've been awake over 24 hours15:01
inzlle2, does the "binary" match the whole path of a binary or just the binary name?15:02
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lle2inz: just the binary name16:04
inzlle2, d0h: apt has some nice helpers, named gzip, bzip2, file...16:06
inzlle2, although, they just might be used via pipes, then it wouldn't matter16:07
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lle2inz: yeah, you better make as simple rule as possible and just give it a shot ;)16:39
lle2many many things have worked by simply not worrying about them too much16:39
inzlle2, I did already try to make simple things and complicated things, both of which miserably failed...16:41
lle2have you used --verbose to look at what files it wants?16:41
lle2and from which processes?16:41
inz--verbose seems to do nothing16:41
lle2the sb2_mapping.log is empty?16:42
lle2in the buildroot dir?16:42
lle2it certainly works for me16:42
inzah, I though it would've spammed me, that's what verbose usually does16:42
lle2that wouldn't work at all16:42
lle2you get something like 150MB of crap from a simple build16:42
lle2and it would break many build systems16:43
lle2that rely on weird piping16:43
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inzw00, it started working!16:51
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lle2inz: great!17:03
inzlle2, but dpkg cannot install packages... =/17:03
inzlle2, apt-get works however ;)17:03
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inzHmm, I really think something is wrong17:13
inzmy dpkg is eating 117m memory17:13
inzand counting17:13
inzWithout working dpkg there's not much I can do with sb2, I'm afraid...17:14
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* Jaffa sighs at the latest comment on - "bigger rewrite" sounds like the kind of decision which led to osso-email pain :-/17:24
zyxulnagadoes anyone know who do i contact when i finish modifying xterm to support bigger scrollback?17:25
zyxulnagaas an option that is17:26
Jaffainz has been doing the most xterm hacking, but didn't do the original version17:26
zyxulnagaoh ok17:26
zyxulnagamine will be a simple patch really17:26
zyxulnagaan option that allows to change the scrollback size17:26
inzzyxul, if it is against the maemo-hackers version, you can send the patch to me.17:30
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Rafael_bhi have installed maemo bora in my fedora core 6 but when i type start my Xephyr crashs17:51
Rafael_bhsomebody know this problem?17:52
melmothif i were on fedora, i think i would give the vmware image dedicated to maemo developpment a try17:54
melmothinstead of going threw the pain of having everything working on fedora (i just dont want to imagine how to create .deb on a rpm platform :) )17:54
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Rafael_bhmake sense17:59
kulveRafael_bh: I compile on SB and run on device17:59
Rafael_bh i downloading.. :)18:02
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Tenkawawhich arm target in sb is ideal for the n800?18:28
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kulveTenkawa: arm target? Do you mean qemu? Or what..18:39
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Tenkawakulve: when I create a target in sb-menu18:41
Tenkawanot sure which one I should use of the arm choices18:42
kulveabout the toolchains?18:43
ptmanin case someone is interested, I put out a public release of maemo-google-reader18:50
Tenkawathank ya18:51
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ptmanI can't seem to login to test.maemo.org18:58
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Tenkawais cpu transparency required to just compile apps?19:03
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Tenkawapork: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.4.17, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped19:06
Tenkawamy first arm cross compile19:06
Tenkawanow for something a bit more complex19:08
kulvecpu transparency is required in practice. configure runs tests it needs something to run the binaries19:08
kulvejust choose the latest qemu-arm when creating a new target19:08
Tenkawahmm.. I dont have it listed19:08
kulveyou need to install the cpu transparency package19:09
Tenkawadangit.. i typoed that19:09
Tenkawaheheh no wonder19:09
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Tenkawathat was great user erro19:10
Tenkawais there a preferref method?19:10
Tenkawafor the 80019:11
Tenkawaarm or armeb?19:11
ptmancan someone try to login to or ? is it working or not?19:11
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Takptman: not working for me either19:16
Takhmm, netsplit or finnish quitting time?19:16
ptmanquitting time was three hours ago, or one hour with flextime that lets you start working as late as 10am. That's what they use at Nokia IIRC.19:17
Tenkawakulve: works much better now, thanks19:17
Tenkawanow to figure out whats broken in this configure script19:19
Tenkawaheh.. nm. just used generic makefile19:22
Tenkawagood enough :)19:22
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Tenkawathis is not so hard once you figure out the build environment quirks19:24
Tenkawasqlite 3.3.13 done :)19:26
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lle2inz: hmm, sb2 might cause some memory leakage, but it shouldn't be too bad. can you send the apt mapping rule to me? I'll try to look into dpkg package installation soon, probably next weekend or so19:33
* Tenkawa works on nmap now19:34
ptmanTenkawa: if the packages have to be tweaked, you should consider publishing your tweaks or even packaging them for distribution19:35
TakI was under the impression that sqlite and nmap packages already existed19:35
Tenkawaptman: so far none have needed any tweaks19:35
TenkawaTak: yeah.. but 1) sqlite's is way old19:36
Tenkawa2) its just not as fun19:36
Tenkawathe other problem I've been having is that these packages are spread out all over the place19:37
Tak3) It's not helpful to the community, since you're not helping to debug/improve the packages that everybody else is using19:38
Tenkawathe repositories need to be cleaner19:38
TenkawaTak: I just got this unit 3 days ago.. I got a lot of learning to do before I submit any "fixes/updates"19:38
Takyeah, it would be helpful if more devs used the garage repo19:38
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TenkawaI'm in "figure out what I can do with this thing" mode19:39
Tenkawamysql is my next big project19:41
TenkawaI havent seen mysql-client anywhere19:41
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Tenkawacant wait to get home to test these binaries on my n80019:46
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Tenkawaany of you expanded swap on your 770 or 800?19:47
TenkawaI added an extra 128 meg on mine.. seems like it helps too19:48
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Andy80I'm testing the new Mono package... I wrote a simple "hello world" on my machine and I put it on n770, when I execute it with "mono n770hello.exe" I get this error: The assembly mscorlib.dll was not found or could not be loaded.19:59
Andy80It should have been installed in the `/usr/lib/mono/1.0/mscorlib.dll' directory.19:59
Andy80how can i fix it?19:59
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Guardianis it possible to style a particular cell of a GtkTable from a RC file ? seems it's not :(20:08
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Andy80uhm.... I'm logged with ssh into n770, dpkg seems locked :( I cannot kill it even if I'm root... how can I kill it?20:12
ptmankill -9 pid20:13
tkoGuardian, GtkTable does not paint anything by itself, so no20:13
tkoGuardian, you can pretty much theme the widget that is inside that cell, though20:13
Guardianyep that's what i'm discovering20:13
Andy80ptman: kill -9 3112 (the dpkg pid) does nothing...20:14
Guardianit would apply to all cells20:14
tkodid I miss the warning about readonly wiki or something?20:14
Guardiani don't think you can select the cell from the widget name20:14
Guardianlike *.GtkTable(5,4).GtkLabel for instance20:14
tkourgh.. food cooks up faster when put *inside* the oven20:15
tkoGuardian, not like that, but widget "*"20:15
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Guardiani guess i'll do it this way20:16
disqset a generated name for every widget in every cell20:16
disq"mylabel-<rownumber>-<colnumber>" or so20:16
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tkodisq, let me play evil here, what about widgets that span multiple rows and/or columns? :)20:19
disqwell you can call set_name multiple times, and only the last name will stick. not a problem :P20:20
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Tenkawamysql compiled!!20:45
Tenkawawill see if I can use the cli tonight20:45
myrenoh dear god20:46
myreni hope you have a keyboard20:46
myrenfor your sake20:46
Tenkawano.. I'm a fast writer though20:46
myrenOH speaking of which -- keybaord recommendations?20:46
* myren is about to place a newegg order20:46
Tenkawamyren: every bt kb I've found is horribly expensive20:46
* Tenkawa looks for the next app to compile that he needs20:47
myrenactually what i really want is a twiddler2 with BT20:47
myrenbut that is REALLY REALLY expensive20:47
* Tenkawa curses at there being no teamspeak arm client *laugh*20:47
* myren lols a little20:47
Tenkawathat would be an excellent n800 app20:48
myrenits INSANE no one has built a one handed keyboard besides handkey20:48
myrenits like 10 years old20:48
myrenOH FUCK20:48
glas55myren: frogpads..20:48
myren"March 2006 marks 14 years of continuous shipping and evolution of the Twiddler."20:48
myrenKILL ME20:48
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myrenthe frogpad isnt usable while on the go is it?20:49
Tenkawaeven though its useless to me I'm going to test lighttpd on the 800 when I get home20:49
myrenthats the main thing i want -- a keybaord i can use while walking aroun20:49
glas55nope.. frogpads look like stationary use20:50
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myrentheres a couple of pictures with some guy rubber banding it to his arm20:56
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tzztenkawa: have you checked the apple BT keyboard?  $60-$70 I think.20:59
tzzI like it, it works very well with the N800.21:00
tzzit's definitely not portable though.21:00
Tenkawatzz: ooh.. havent seen that21:01
TenkawaI could use that on my other 2 boxes (1 mac one pc)21:02
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Tenkawaany recommendations on a spare/secondary battery21:02
Tenkawaany 3rd party ones or do I need to stick with nokia's?21:02
Tenkawathat kb is down to 59$21:03
Tenkawathink I'll be going to the apple store21:03
tzzyeah, I am surprised how expensive the other BT keyboards are, considering the Apple one is so nice.  Must be licensing issues or corporate greed.21:03
tzzI don't have a spare battery, but I did get a $10 charger from Target at work, so I plug in at home overnight and at work during the day.21:04
Tenkawaheh or both21:04
tzzbest thing about the Apple keyboard: my 1 year old daughter loves to bang on it, so I just turn it off and she's entertained.  It's a toy AND a tool.21:05
Tenkawawill be nice to use it on my ibook and my n80021:06
Tenkawaclose the ibook.. sit tne n800 on it and type away21:06
nelsonTenkawa: you can get a bt qwerty keyboard for $10021:07
TenkawaI'd rather have an apple21:07
TenkawaI mostly use macs21:07
Tenkawanelson: and why pay 100$ when I can get one for 59$21:07
nelsonTenkawa: because the $100 ones fold in half.21:07
Tenkawamobile I'll just use stylus21:07
Tenkawabeing one handed I type on that kb pretty damn fast already21:08
nelsonTenkawa: fair enuf.21:08
Tenkawaafk... time to wrap up the day21:09
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myrentime to cruise newegg for bt keyboards21:37
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maddlerhi all!22:07
myrenhi hi22:11
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guerbyhmmm sb2 is complicated...22:25
lle2guerby: yeah, but you're the first real test user I've had for it ;)22:29
guerbylle2, and you got a real noob :)22:30
suihkulokkiguerby: it's much more compact and simple than sb122:30
guerbylle2, any idea of why gcc hello could be not working anymore?22:30
lle2guerby: that's perfectly fine :) that way I learn what are the things you hit22:30
lle2guerby: I just sent you an email22:30
guerbylle2, so cd has some importance22:31
lle2yup, at the moment22:31
lle2$PWD needs to be the buildroot, otherwise it won't start right22:32
lle2after that you can move around freely22:32
guerbylle2, ok hello works again :)22:33
lle2good :)22:33
guerbywow I have a gnome popup telling me that the program "touch" closed unexpectedly :) :)22:33
guerbyconfig.status: executing po/stamp-it commands22:34
guerbytouch configure-stamp22:34
guerbymake: *** [configure-stamp] Segmentation fault (core dumped)22:34
guerbymake: *** Deleting file `configure-stamp'22:34
lle2wtf? :=)22:34
lle2right, I think I've heard about this22:34
lle2you're on Ubuntu?22:34
guerbylle2, yes feisty looks like it's the SB2 touch that got a core dump22:35
guerby[SB2] guerby@pc2 ~/work/maemo/tmp/maemo-mapper-1.4.3 $ touch toto22:35
guerbySegmentation fault (core dumped)22:35
lle2which touch?22:35
s-ndh-chm my ssh session to the device seems to freeze or hang sometimes22:35
guerbylle2 touch works outside DB222:36
lle2guerby: run "which touch"?22:36
s-ndh-cbut i i initiate some other network connection from the device like browsing a website it works again22:36
s-ndh-cis that a known problem?22:36
guerby[SB2] guerby@pc2 ~/work/maemo/tmp/maemo-mapper-1.4.3 $ type touch22:36
guerbytouch is /usr/bin/touch22:36
guerby[SB2] guerby@pc2 ~/work/maemo/tmp/maemo-mapper-1.4.3 $ file /usr/bin/touch22:36
guerby/usr/bin/touch: symbolic link to `/bin/touch'22:36
guerby[SB2] guerby@pc2 ~/work/maemo/tmp/maemo-mapper-1.4.3 $ file /bin/touch22:36
guerby/bin/touch: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped22:36
s-ndh-cthat never happened with the previous itos2006 images22:36
s-ndh-conly with the latest22:37
lle2guerby: uhhuh22:37
guerbylle2, surprising22:37
lle2guerby: yeah, it's quite possibly the simplest of them all22:37
derfs-ndh-c: Yes, it's a known problem.22:38
derfWell, "feature", maybe.22:38
derfBut it certainly happens to me, and I've seen other people complain about it.22:38
lle2guerby: I'll take a look at that tomorrow, you're essentially at the same point as daniels22:38
lle2guerby: something that ubuntu does but debian doesn't22:38
guerbylle2, ah I'm not alone :)22:38
lle2guerby: no, if that makes you feel any better ;)22:39
derfI wrote a little program that, among other things, pings a host occaisionally while the device is plugged in to the charger.22:39
s-ndh-cderf: the only changes in the new image seem to be something with better wireless experience, but that doesnt seem to be an improvement:)22:39
derfI assume it's related to power management.22:39
s-ndh-cmaybe its openssh specific or is it the same with dropbear?22:39
lle2guerby: it can't be anything too complicated, hell, it's only touch ;)22:40
guerbylle2, :)22:40
derfIt's not program-specific at all.22:40
derfIt simply stops listening for incoming data after a while of not sending outgoing data.22:40
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guerbylle2, I can program another one :)22:40
lle2guerby: heh, yeah, but it's nice that it manifests in such a simple case, very easy to debug22:41
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derf(the best part is that _receiving_ data does not reset whatever timeout it is that makes this happen)22:41
lle2guerby: I'd hate it if it only showed up in something like perl22:41
guerbylle2 :) :)22:42
tzzlle2: is there any way to run SB on a Mac, or do I need to use Parallels or something like it to make a virtual x86 machine with Debian?22:42
derfs-ndh-c: <- see if this solves your problem.22:43
tzzI'm losing my Debian machine, only Macs allowed now at work :(22:43
s-ndh-cderf: i have that on my n770 not n80022:43
derfOh, that's a problem.22:44
s-ndh-ci dont even have a n800 :)22:44
derfI have no idea if it compiles, or works on, an N770.22:44
derfSince I don't have one.22:44
lle2tzz: on osx, probably no, on a ppc debian, sb2 should be possible22:44
Tenkawawell so far all my compiles have worked22:44
Tenkawamysql is the big test22:45
derfTenkawa: But you're compiling stuff that was not written for one of these devices specifically.22:45
lle2tzz: it's not supported at the moment, but there are not too many x86/amd64 specific things, just some elf header parsing to detect host binaries from the target ones22:45
derfThat program is listening to dbus messages to detect when the adapter is plugged in and unplugged, and then changing gconf settings to update the display brightness and screen blanking timeouts.22:46
tzzthanks lle222:46
derfAll of which is completely undocumented, so I have no idea if it's the same on a 770.22:46
derfFor an added bonus, the version of dbus on even the 800 is ancient, from before the API was stabilized.22:47
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Tenkawais xephyr the ui app builder?22:52
s-ndh-cxephyr is a nested xserver like xnest atleast that what i think22:53
Tenkawahmm I need to find a ui tutorial for the 80022:54
s-ndh-ci wonder why they removed it from the 3.0 rootstrap22:54
s-ndh-cor am i just blind?22:54
derfThey had Xephyr in the rootstrap?!22:54
derfIt's supposed to be provided by the external system.22:55
Tenkawalibrary issues22:57
Tenkawasome bins work22:57
Tenkawaothers dont :(22:57
Tenkawaonly affects my sd cards bins23:00
Tenkawamovem internal and it works fine23:00
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derfThat's not reasurring.23:00
Tenkawamust have execute bit turned off on the external cards23:01
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Tenkawamuch better23:07
Tenkawanmapfe works like a charm23:07
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Tenkawamysql client works :)23:11
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