IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2007-03-13

*** jamey has joined #maemo00:04
*** MoRpHeUz has quit IRC00:06
*** Zer0HiT has joined #maemo00:11
*** ajturner has quit IRC00:12
*** ttobin has quit IRC00:13
*** KermitTheFragger has quit IRC00:14
Molagiwhen is the new os 2007 update coming?00:16
Takwould be nice to know00:17
*** jpetersen__ has joined #maemo00:18
*** snorkelyd has quit IRC00:22
* svu wonders about the very same question00:22
dieguitoit will be ready when it's ready™00:29
*** sbaturzio has quit IRC00:33
*** jpetersen_ has quit IRC00:33
*** spect has joined #maemo00:34
*** rafael_bh has joined #maemo00:34
rafael_bhin maemo i tryed to run hello-world-app-0.0 with ./heelo-world00:37
rafael_bhbut computer says osso_initialize failed.00:37
rafael_bhanyone know this error?00:38
derfIs dbus running?00:38
rafael_bhi don't know00:38
rafael_bh i have start with the commands from maemo 3.0 tutorial00:38
*** jonnylamb_ is now known as jonnylamb00:39
rafael_bh i have 2 dbus-deamon running....00:40
derfThen I don't know.00:40
rafael_bhmaybe reinstall?00:40
*** ndepetrillo has quit IRC00:43
*** Andy80 has joined #maemo00:44
*** ajturner_ is now known as ajturner00:51
*** rafael_bh has quit IRC00:56
dyncorpthe hatari Atari St emu is ~fun~ :)00:58
dyncorpit also has blotchy sound tho01:01
*** monteslu has joined #maemo01:05
*** mat has quit IRC01:11
*** mat has joined #maemo01:11
*** Pierre has quit IRC01:12
*** sp3000 has quit IRC01:13
*** herzi has quit IRC01:19
*** Guard][an has joined #maemo01:27
*** monteslu has quit IRC01:37
*** Guardian has joined #maemo01:38
*** Andy80 has quit IRC01:39
*** fatman2 has joined #maemo01:43
fatman2 hello i am fatman and i weigh 400 pounds.  you can see videos of my supreme fatness at www.fatman.tk01:43
*** fatman2 has left #maemo01:47
*** _guardian has joined #maemo01:50
cesmanhello hello01:53
*** Pierre has joined #maemo01:53
*** fab has quit IRC01:58
*** unique311_ has joined #maemo01:59
*** Guard][an has quit IRC02:00
kkitofinally i get amarok to play mp3 using the dspmp3sink... :) now it is playing so fine02:01
dyncorpgood job, VBR also?02:02
kkitovbr ?02:04
*** MichaelM has joined #maemo02:04
MichaelMhello all02:04
MichaelMi would like to ask a question regarding development on a n80002:05
MichaelMI have an command line application that I built a gui for02:05
MichaelMbut for the command line app to run it needs root privilages02:06
MichaelMhow can I make the gui app automatically run with root priv?02:06
Veggenwith sudo. And make the package add a line to /etc/sudoers.02:07
MichaelMcould you ellaborate a bit on that?02:07
*** everaldo has joined #maemo02:07
*** Guard][an has joined #maemo02:07
dragornMichaelM: Better to make the cli suid root or in sudo, and then fork-exec it from the UI02:09
dragorninstead of trying to run the UI as root02:09
MichaelMi am not understading dragorn02:09
MichaelMi am very new to linux and i am trying to learn02:10
*** Guardian has quit IRC02:10
MichaelMis there somewhere online that i can get instructions on how to do this?02:12
cesmanMichaelM: is absolutely a requirement that your app run as root?02:14
cesmanit isn't good practice to run an app as root02:14
MichaelMyes... it has to replace the current wlan driver with an edited version02:14
*** lsk has joined #maemo02:14
MichaelMthat can only be done as root02:15
*** _guardian has quit IRC02:15
MichaelMalso, it uses wireless tools which also require root02:15
dragornwhat would the app happen to be02:18
MichaelMits my own version of airodump, but will allow rssi to be displayed02:18
dragorncesman: It's unfortunately necessary sometimes.  I have to do the same shoehorning with kismet, but it does a privdrop to user as soon as it's configured the interface and forked a controller process02:19
MichaelMthats something like what i want. When the app closes, drop to user privs02:20
dragornThe driver swap has some issues.  Especially since I bet you're doing it in a shell script, and you can't suid those to root.02:20
dragornMeh.  still dangerous.  Kismet swaps to user as soon as it's forked the root control process and does all the packet handling as unprived02:20
MichaelMi was actually going to try and embed that in my code02:20
MichaelMonce the app starts, insert new driver02:21
*** Markov has joined #maemo02:26
*** Guardian has joined #maemo02:32
MichaelMany suggestions?02:38
dyncorpkkito: variable bit rate, i think the dsp can do it.  i am looking forward to sc2 with sounds converted to mp302:39
MichaelMdragorn: any idea what I could do?02:41
*** shackan has quit IRC02:46
*** Guard][an has quit IRC02:53
*** _guardian has joined #maemo02:55
*** behdad has quit IRC02:57
MichaelMwould someone here be able to assist me?02:57
MichaelMi am trying to get my application (GUI in GTK) to run, but need root priv02:58
MichaelMis there a way to make this happen in the code?02:58
*** kkitokde has joined #maemo03:01
*** Guardian has quit IRC03:03
*** ndepetrillo has joined #maemo03:04
*** Guardian has joined #maemo03:05
*** chibiAcyd has joined #maemo03:06
*** jacques has joined #maemo03:15
*** kkitokde has left #maemo03:17
*** Guard][an has joined #maemo03:21
*** _guardian has quit IRC03:26
*** spect has quit IRC03:28
*** behdad has joined #maemo03:31
*** ndepetrillo has quit IRC03:32
*** _guardian has joined #maemo03:33
*** jpetersen__ has quit IRC03:40
*** Guard][an has quit IRC03:42
*** Guardian has quit IRC03:43
*** phil|work is now known as philipl03:48
*** Guardian has joined #maemo03:59
*** lsk has quit IRC04:06
dyncorpJussiP: you jussik?04:06
*** Guard][an has joined #maemo04:12
*** _guardian has quit IRC04:20
*** _guardian has joined #maemo04:21
*** pvanhoof has quit IRC04:21
*** dieguito has quit IRC04:22
*** slomo_ has joined #maemo04:27
*** slomo has quit IRC04:27
*** Guardian has quit IRC04:34
MichaelManyone here?04:40
*** Guard][an has quit IRC04:42
*** jku__ has joined #maemo04:46
*** Guardian has joined #maemo04:47
*** memamo has joined #maemo04:49
memamoWould someone mind helping me with some development environment setup questions?04:50
memamoIn particular I'm trying to get started by setting things up and making some tweaks to the eggtimer app on the garage server04:50
*** gopi|n800 has joined #maemo04:51
memamoI have scratchbox setup and installed the maemo sdk and also python2.5 - install for eggtimer complains about distutils.core when I try to build04:51
memamoI suspect the developer's environment may be a bit messed up with his pythonpath still set for python2.304:52
memamoso it finds distutils.core04:52
*** Pio has joined #maemo04:59
*** jku_ has quit IRC05:02
*** korpios has joined #maemo05:07
*** _guardian has quit IRC05:09
*** ajturner has quit IRC05:09
*** memamo has quit IRC05:13
*** _guardian has joined #maemo05:16
*** unique311_ has quit IRC05:19
*** Guard][an has joined #maemo05:19
*** korpios has quit IRC05:20
*** jwb is now known as jwb_gone05:24
*** philipl is now known as phil|out05:26
*** inode0 has joined #maemo05:29
*** Guardian has quit IRC05:35
*** Guardian has joined #maemo05:35
*** Guard][an has quit IRC05:40
*** _guardian has quit IRC05:41
*** omega is now known as omega_away05:41
Markovhas anyone successfully streamed media to the n800 via UPnP?05:41
inode0I've tried with ushare but no luck05:41
*** dieguito has joined #maemo05:42
Markovi've tried simple server and wmp1105:42
Markovboth, no luck05:43
Markovmusic works fine, but when i try a movie it just says buffering...05:43
Markovbut, it's pretty clearly doing nothing05:43
Markovno network activity05:43
inode0well, actually using canola I did have some luck now that I think about it - not real great though05:45
Markovhuh. when i try canola it just says Error05:46
Markovwhat format was your video in?05:46
inode0media streamer doesn't ever find anything - only test music on the N80005:46
Markovhuh. all of media streamer, media player, and canola will show me the list of videos05:47
Markovbut, none will play them!05:47
inode0none of these things seem to like ushare - nicely mounts with fuse though on a linux box05:49
inode0I'm experimenting from a slug though and that may not help matters either05:50
Markovare you running windows or linux?05:53
inode0just linux05:53
Markovyou don't use myth tv?05:54
inode0no, I hardly watch tv05:54
Markovoh. i thought maybe you don't have to use the tv features05:54
inode0I use slimserver generally to stream audio - that is all I normally stream. ushare seems to work but not as well for me so far05:56
*** soleblaze_ has joined #maemo05:56
inode0UPnP just doesn't work well enough to bother any more with it for me -- streaming to the radio app works much better for me.06:05
inode0Won't help much with your videos though06:06
*** behdad has quit IRC06:11
*** soleblaze has quit IRC06:13
*** behdad has joined #maemo06:17
*** Markov has quit IRC06:22
*** _guardian has joined #maemo06:27
*** inode0 has quit IRC06:27
*** kkito has quit IRC06:33
*** Guard][an has joined #maemo06:36
*** lcandell has joined #maemo06:46
*** Guardian has quit IRC06:46
*** Guardian has joined #maemo06:47
*** dieguito has quit IRC06:47
*** Guard][an has quit IRC06:53
*** _guardian has quit IRC06:54
*** _guardian has joined #maemo07:00
*** phil|out is now known as philipl07:00
*** _guardian has quit IRC07:11
*** gopi|n800 has quit IRC07:11
*** jku__ has quit IRC07:11
*** Pierre has quit IRC07:11
*** derf has quit IRC07:11
*** dragorn has quit IRC07:11
*** mikemorrison has quit IRC07:11
*** Tak has quit IRC07:11
*** Juhaz has quit IRC07:11
*** RP has quit IRC07:11
*** kabtoffe has quit IRC07:11
*** provoland has quit IRC07:11
*** toi has quit IRC07:11
*** _guardian has joined #maemo07:11
*** gopi|n800 has joined #maemo07:11
*** jku__ has joined #maemo07:11
*** Pierre has joined #maemo07:11
*** derf has joined #maemo07:11
*** dragorn has joined #maemo07:11
*** mikemorrison has joined #maemo07:11
*** Tak has joined #maemo07:11
*** provoland has joined #maemo07:11
*** Juhaz has joined #maemo07:11
*** RP has joined #maemo07:11
*** kabtoffe has joined #maemo07:11
*** toi has joined #maemo07:11
*** Juhaz_ has joined #maemo07:13
*** Juhaz has quit IRC07:14
*** toi has quit IRC07:14
*** toi has joined #maemo07:14
*** jku_ has joined #maemo07:16
*** Guard][an has joined #maemo07:17
*** RobHu has quit IRC07:17
*** Guardian has quit IRC07:19
*** dieguito has joined #maemo07:19
*** tigert has quit IRC07:26
*** tigert has joined #maemo07:30
*** jku__ has quit IRC07:32
*** _guardian has quit IRC07:41
*** Guardian has joined #maemo07:48
*** slomo_ has quit IRC07:53
*** slomo_ has joined #maemo07:54
*** tigert_ has joined #maemo08:05
*** Guard][an has quit IRC08:11
*** tigert has quit IRC08:11
*** Pio has quit IRC08:11
*** _guardian has joined #maemo08:14
*** sp3000 has joined #maemo08:16
*** Guard][an has joined #maemo08:26
*** Guardian has quit IRC08:35
dyncorpur-quan masters thread:
dyncorppls email the guy who ported it for OS2005.  I want to compile it for 200608:35
*** Guardian has joined #maemo08:37
*** k-s[WORK] has quit IRC08:43
*** k-s[WORK] has joined #maemo08:43
*** philipl is now known as phil|sleep08:44
*** _guardian has quit IRC08:46
derfI don't remember who was asking, but my WBT-200 showed up tonight. Went out for a walk with it; so far it works great.08:49
dyncorpgps reciever?08:50
* dyncorp is playing giana sisters with Atari ST emulator on N77008:51
dyncorpwhere does the street data for the mapper come from?08:51
MichaelManyone here know how to permanently insert a driver?08:51
derfdyncorp: From Google or Virtual Earth.08:52
derfSo, can you charge the N800 over USB?08:52
MichaelMtrying to insert the Wlan Driver (edited)08:52
dyncorpi can't help on that MichaelM, maybe mailing list archives would help (dev)08:53
MichaelMok.... thanks for responding08:53
dyncorpvery cool that you've hacked the drivers :)08:54
*** Eloi has joined #maemo08:57
*** Guard][an has quit IRC08:57
*** _guardian has joined #maemo08:58
chibiAcydyou know what game needs to be ported?09:04
chibiAcydoregon trail09:04
derfSo do it.09:04
chibiAcydlazy at the moment, i need to finish up wordpress this week09:05
*** Pio has joined #maemo09:06
*** Guardian has quit IRC09:07
*** dieguito has quit IRC09:09
dyncorphatari is really close to delivering uninterrupted sound09:10
*** c0ffee has quit IRC09:15
zuhderf: No, you can't charge with USB (which sucks a bit)09:15
derfApparently the CA-100 cable is supposed to let you do it.09:15
derfBut it doesn't appear to be sold in the US.09:15
chibiAcydnokia is bringing out a usb to tiny plug adapter09:16
derfThe CA-70 should also work with an adapter, but it's $60 (and the adapter is another $10)09:16
derfYes, those are both from Nokia.09:16
chibiAcydyeah, ca-100 supposed to come out same time as thats case thing09:16
zuhderf: ah, with an adapter it might even be possible... I thought you meant directly with the usb connector on it...09:17
derfzuh: Well, the car adapter that came with my GPS receiver just has a normal USB plug on it, you provide the cable.09:18
derf(well, there was one included for the GPS receiver, of course)09:19
derfSo that would mean I could _also_ charge the N800 off it.09:19
derfBut I guess not yet, and not for free.09:20
*** Guardian has joined #maemo09:20
*** _guardian has quit IRC09:25
*** Eloi has left #maemo09:39
*** jku__ has joined #maemo09:46
[mbm]hate the fact that you can't charge it via usb, mostly because I use it as a usb drive at times and it sucks battery09:46
[mbm]I'll probably end up hacking a cable that goes from usb to the dc input09:47
[mbm]and charge it that way09:47
*** jku_ has quit IRC09:54
*** sKaBoy has joined #maemo10:02
*** dape has joined #maemo10:04
*** b0unc3 has quit IRC10:18
*** Guardian has quit IRC10:25
*** tigert_ is now known as tigert10:47
*** greentux_ has quit IRC10:48
*** greentux has joined #maemo10:51
*** Guardian has joined #maemo10:52
JaffaMorning, all10:53
*** KermitTheFragger has joined #maemo10:54
*** herzi has joined #maemo11:13
*** AD-N770 has joined #maemo11:19
AD-N770good morning11:19
maddlerthe world is waking up! :D11:26
*** tko has quit IRC11:31
*** tko has joined #maemo11:31
*** wvrn has joined #maemo11:32
kabtoffephysics :(11:42
*** bilboed has joined #maemo11:48
*** sbaturzioAtWork has joined #maemo11:52
wvrnhi! have a thumb-question...: glibc-2.3.4 works with (armv5te) code built with -mthumb-interwork and (partly..) -mcallee-super-interworking, but not with pure -mthumb??11:58
wvrn(gcc 3.4.4)11:59
*** florian has joined #maemo12:04
floriangood morning12:10
*** gomiam has joined #maemo12:10
gomiamhi everyone...12:10
gomiamdoes anybody know what the magic:sys update is for?12:13
gomiamI seem to be unable to apply it.12:13
gomiamnevermind, it seems to apply correctly now O:-)12:20
*** kkito has joined #maemo12:20
*** fab has joined #maemo12:20
X-Fadegomiam: Select the package and hit the (i) icon for more info on a package..12:20
gomiamX-Fade: I did already, but the package information seemed to be wrong on Sunday, so I apt-get upgrade'd. That will teach me to second-guess developers ;-)12:21
*** _follower_ has joined #maemo12:26
Guardianmorning maemo12:27
*** __follower__ has joined #maemo12:33
*** c0ffee has joined #maemo12:33
*** jku_ has joined #maemo12:33
*** jku__ has quit IRC12:36
*** jonnylamb has quit IRC12:45
*** jonnylamb has joined #maemo12:46
*** Guardian has quit IRC12:49
*** _guardian has joined #maemo12:49
*** jait has quit IRC12:49
*** _follower_ has quit IRC12:50
*** jait has joined #maemo13:10
Tenkawais there a guide out there for compiling apps for the nokia 770/800?13:16
TenkawaI want to see if I can port something over13:16
Jaffasee and the "Developers" section. A few good tutorials on porting apps.13:17
Tenkawathank ya13:17
Tenkawafound nice apps so far but now I want to try :)13:18
Tenkawainstalling scratchbox yay13:23
*** jpetersen has joined #maemo13:25
*** Pierre has quit IRC13:29
*** Pierre has joined #maemo13:31
*** koen|galinhas_ has joined #maemo13:35
*** koen|galinhas__ has joined #maemo13:39
*** koen|galinhas__ is now known as koen|galinhas13:41
*** gomiam has left #maemo13:42
*** guerby has quit IRC13:45
*** MoRpHeUz has joined #maemo13:45
*** shackan has joined #maemo13:47
*** koen|galinhas_ has quit IRC13:57
*** koen|galinhas has quit IRC13:58
*** Pierre has quit IRC13:58
*** koen|galinhas has joined #maemo14:02
* sbaturzioAtWork is away: Lunch time...14:04
acydlord <- lol14:04
alpacydlord: clippy is implemented for real in the 'vigor' nvi clone, check it out14:06
acydlordthats sad14:06
*** MoRpHeUz has quit IRC14:07
*** MichaelM has quit IRC14:08
jku_Tenkawa, check out pymaemo too (
s-ndh-cwhat is responsible for started apps to show up in this tasklist thing on the side?14:09
*** jwb_gone is now known as jwb14:09
Tenkawajku_: thanks14:12
*** koen|galinhas_ has joined #maemo14:17
acydlordman i have way too much of these 2 video blogs to catch up on14:18
*** Pierre- has joined #maemo14:19
inzs-ndh-c, maemo-af-desktop shows all applications it knows there14:22
inzs-ndh-c, to show up there, you need to have a .desktop file for your program and a WM_CLASS match14:22
nealis there a way to tell when there isn't a WM_CLASS match?14:24
inzneal, if your app doesn't show up ;)14:24
nealit doesn't14:25
nealhow can I debug it?14:25
inzneal, which toolkit are you using?14:25
*** Pierre- is now known as Pierre14:26
nealwhat do you mean?14:26
nealI'm using gtk+14:26
nealfrom C14:26
s-ndh-cinz: will look into that thx14:26
*** dyncorp_ has joined #maemo14:27
jaitneal: do you pass &argc and &argv in gtk_init()? IIRC, WM_CLASS is derived from argv[0]14:32
nealjait: yes14:33
inzneal, and the app doesn call gtk_window_set_wmclass?14:34
*** koen|galinhas has quit IRC14:35
jaitand you open a normal window (not a dialog or splash)?14:36
inzneal, and the code doesn't call g_set_prgname before gtk_init?14:36
inzThen it sounds quite weird14:37
nealI agree14:37
jaitand /usr/bin/starling is the binary itself, not a script that starts the (differently-named) binary?14:40
*** dyncorp has quit IRC14:40
jaitif you had xprop, you could check exactly what your WM_CLASS is14:42
*** Zer0HiT has quit IRC14:43
*** tank17 has quit IRC14:44
*** tank17 has joined #maemo14:47
*** will-sama has joined #maemo14:47
*** koen|galinhas_ has quit IRC14:48
alphow terrible, the device goes into an endless reboot cycle after i disabled the matchbox window manager14:51
Tenkawahas there been any timelines set for the next maemo release that anyone's aware of>14:51
Tenkawaalp: ouch14:51
alpi guess it's tied in to some watchdog. just another barrier to get in the way of porting my own window management code14:53
X-Fadealp: did you try to disable lifeguard resets?14:53
*** Ryback_ has joined #maemo14:53
alpX-Fade: it didn't occur to me that matcbox would have a watchdog beforehand unfortunately14:54
*** Ryback_ has quit IRC14:54
X-Fadealp, it doesn't. Every critical process is watched..14:54
X-Fadeflasher --set-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset14:54
*** koen|galinhas_ has joined #maemo14:54
alpheh, window managers are critical processes now?14:54
alpthe wm is mean to just be another X client14:55
X-Fadealp: Yeah, but you have to think about users.14:55
X-FadeIf it crashes, your device is unusable..14:55
X-FadeDevelopers know how to hack on devices, users shouldn't have to..14:55
alpusers would be able to fix it more easily if it didn't go into an endless reboot cycle. anyway, managed to enable matchbox again during a short window of ssh access14:56
alprebooting the device seems to be the last thing you want to do when a critical process fails. it might be the last chance the user has to fix it before the device is rendered unbootable14:56
X-FadeIf you want to disable parts of the system, I suggest you turn the lifeguard off..14:57
*** koen|galinhas__ has joined #maemo14:57
X-FadeAlp, I think they designed it for OOM problems. Rebooting for other reasons is not always the best option :)14:58
X-FadeLike when there is no space left on the device to write the pid file of a process :)14:58
alpX-Fade: fair enough. guess i was venting just a little :-)14:58
*** koen|galinhas__ has quit IRC14:58
*** rodarvus has joined #maemo14:58
X-Fadealp: I'm just guessing. I did not write it nor was I involved ;)14:59
*** vivijim has joined #maemo14:59
Tenkawamy vps doesnt support binfmt_misc15:00
*** WillySilly has quit IRC15:03
Tenkawaany of you installed scratchbox from source?15:05
Tenkawagetting this trying to run build15:07
Tenkawalocal: 110: installed?: bad variable name15:07
TenkawaCheck [yes/no] (yes):15:07
*** vivijim has left #maemo15:07
*** pcfe has joined #maemo15:08
*** kerwood|afk has quit IRC15:09
*** b0unc3 has joined #maemo15:09
Tenkawaahh.. needed zsh15:10
*** koen|galinhas_ has quit IRC15:13
*** kerwood|afk has joined #maemo15:14
* sbaturzioAtWork is back (gone 01:12:05)15:16
*** __follower__ has quit IRC15:18
*** c0ffee has quit IRC15:38
*** c0ffee has joined #maemo15:38
*** X-Fade_ has joined #maemo15:39
*** ajturner has joined #maemo15:39
*** everaldo is now known as everaldo-bbl15:42
*** chibiAcyd has quit IRC15:53
*** X-Fade has quit IRC15:54
*** Molagi has quit IRC15:54
Tenkawaok scratchbox isnt very ubuntu friendly15:58
inzhow come?16:00
sxpert-workscratchbox isn't anything besides debian friendly, from my experience16:01
Tenkawano wonder... i was using dash16:01
Tenkawanow its compiling fine changing the sh link to bash16:02
Tenkawawill be interesting to see how long this takes on this pentium d 92016:02
Tenkawabuilding everything16:02
nealjait: Running xprop on the program on my laptop returns WM_CLASS(STRING) = "starling", "Starling"16:03
nealjait: So that should be correct.16:03
jaitneal: yes16:09
jaitso i'm out of advice :(16:13
jaitexcept i noticed that at least in starling-0.1 you're using the old hildonapp/hildonappview API but i don't think it makes any difference16:14
nealwe use the same thing in gpe-calendar16:14
nealwhich works fine16:14
jaitok, it must be the solar flares then that's breaking everything16:16
kkito ahere are the kdrive/Xomap xserver source code?16:28
*** ocnarfidW has joined #maemo16:29
sp3000kkito: et al16:29
kkitosp3000, thx :)16:30
kulvekkito: or apt-get source16:30
*** rev has quit IRC16:34
*** kkito has quit IRC16:41
*** vivijim has joined #maemo16:45
*** X-Fade_ is now known as X-Fade16:47
*** phil|sleep is now known as philipl16:52
*** spect has joined #maemo16:56
Jaffakkito: the OS 2007 source is at
JaffaWell, unpacked at that URL16:56
kulvethat url even seems to have the newest X. The one you get with "apt-get source" is slightly older17:01
*** Disconnect has joined #maemo17:01
*** kakos has joined #maemo17:03
*** tank17 has quit IRC17:03
*** soleblaze_ is now known as soleblaze17:04
jaithi, is there a way or a fancy facility to translate the special directories to the user-friendly names used in file manager and open/save dialogs?17:06
*** snorkelyd has joined #maemo17:07
jaitI mean: /home/user/MyDocs => "Nokia N800", /media/mmc1 => "Removable memoery card", "/home/user/MyDocs/.images" => "Images" etc...17:07
timelesskeep in mind that it doesn't always say Removable memory card17:08
timelesssometimes for me it says Kingston17:08
*** gopi|n800 has quit IRC17:09
*** garrett has joined #maemo17:12
jaityes, I guess it uses the FAT volume name if present, but is there a way to perform this mapping?17:14
*** ndepetrillo has joined #maemo17:14
*** jacques has quit IRC17:15
*** jonnylamb has quit IRC17:15
*** dape has quit IRC17:15
*** jonnylamb has joined #maemo17:16
jaitit would be *stupid* if the the user sees "Audio clips" (or whatever localized) in file manager and hildon dialogs but in the application I have to display ".sounds" :(17:17
*** vivijim has quit IRC17:18
kulvejait: hildon-fm-1.14] > vi hildon-fm/hildon-file-system-private.c17:19
kulveline 17217:19
*** luis has joined #maemo17:20
*** luis has quit IRC17:20
*** ttobin has joined #maemo17:20
*** skandaleras has joined #maemo17:20
jaitkulve: so there's not really a good way to do it :)17:24
*** ocnarfidW has quit IRC17:27
disqtimeless: you can rename the memory cards in file manager17:29
*** shackan has quit IRC17:32
kulvejait: I would guess that no17:32
b0unc3uhm... having the second partition of my sd showed in fm would be great...17:37
*** obergix[home] has joined #maemo17:42
*** tank17 has joined #maemo17:45
*** makuchaku has quit IRC17:58
*** Rp1 has joined #maemo17:59
*** makuchaku has joined #maemo17:59
*** skandaleras has quit IRC18:01
*** booiiing has quit IRC18:06
*** booiiing has joined #maemo18:09
*** Pio has quit IRC18:13
*** philipl is now known as phil|work18:13
*** Pio has joined #maemo18:14
maddlerb0unc3: create a symlink... ;)18:24
*** koen|galinhas__ has joined #maemo18:24
b0unc3maddler: but I want the sd icon too :D18:24
maddlerprint it and stick it on your display18:25
*** koen|galinhas__ has quit IRC18:25
b0unc3hmm.. my sd is now mounted in ro and rw mode....18:25
*** koen|galinhas has joined #maemo18:25
*** inode0 has joined #maemo18:26
*** MoRpHeUz has joined #maemo18:28
*** _guardian has quit IRC18:32
*** TheNickDe has joined #maemo18:35
nomisHmm. My scratchbox disappeared and I don't remember uninstalling it.18:35
*** crispy602 has joined #maemo18:40
*** MoRpHeUz has quit IRC18:43
*** TheNickDe has quit IRC18:44
*** TheNickDe has joined #maemo18:45
*** hap has quit IRC18:46
*** ndepetrillo has quit IRC18:46
*** hap has joined #maemo18:46
*** sKaBoy has quit IRC18:52
*** fab has quit IRC18:53
*** hap has quit IRC18:53
*** koen|galinhas has quit IRC18:55
*** hap has joined #maemo18:58
maddlerderf: damn gremplins!18:58
*** hap has quit IRC19:06
*** pleemans has joined #maemo19:08
*** kender has joined #maemo19:10
*** hap has joined #maemo19:15
*** hap has quit IRC19:22
*** KermitTheFragger has quit IRC19:26
*** hap has joined #maemo19:27
*** MoRpHeUz has joined #maemo19:27
*** fab has joined #maemo19:30
*** MoRpHeUz_ has joined #maemo19:34
*** MoRpHeUz has quit IRC19:35
*** MoRpHeUz_ is now known as MoRpHeUz19:35
*** kerwood|afk has quit IRC19:42
*** mlpug has joined #maemo19:44
*** daf has quit IRC19:45
*** jku__ has joined #maemo19:46
*** tzz has quit IRC19:50
*** slomo_ has quit IRC19:51
*** dolske_ has quit IRC19:51
*** tzz has joined #maemo19:53
*** bernarde has joined #maemo19:54
*** koen|galinhas has joined #maemo19:55
*** dieguito has joined #maemo19:56
*** slomo_ has joined #maemo19:57
*** MoRpHeUz has quit IRC19:58
*** Guard][an has joined #maemo20:00
*** greentux has quit IRC20:00
*** TheNickDe has quit IRC20:02
*** jku_ has quit IRC20:02
*** Molagi- has joined #maemo20:03
*** bilboed has quit IRC20:04
*** kender has quit IRC20:08
*** Rp1 has quit IRC20:08
*** koen|galinhas_ has joined #maemo20:09
*** sbaturzioAtWork has quit IRC20:09
*** koen|galinhas has quit IRC20:09
*** MoRpHeUz has joined #maemo20:11
*** MoRpHeUz has quit IRC20:14
*** cosmo__ has joined #maemo20:18
*** cosmo_ has quit IRC20:18
*** bernarde has quit IRC20:19
*** pvanhoof has joined #maemo20:19
*** florian has quit IRC20:20
*** dolske has joined #maemo20:25
*** daf has joined #maemo20:26
*** zyxulnaga has joined #maemo20:26
zyxulnagais there a way to increase my scroll back in the xterminal in maemo?20:27
zyxulnagaor use typescript?20:27
zyxulnagait doesnt have script as a command20:27
* koen|galinhas_ wonders when canola will be open source20:28
*** daf` has joined #maemo20:29
*** kender has joined #maemo20:29
dyncorp_zyxulnaga: check osso-xterm options20:30
*** koen|galinhas_ has quit IRC20:31
dyncorp_hmm nevermind20:32
*** ndepetrillo has joined #maemo20:32
*** greentux has joined #maemo20:32
*** Guardian has joined #maemo20:32
dyncorp_My main design gripes for the n800.. 1) Speakers placed below buttons so hands block them.  2) Space on right of screen not used for buttons  3) Rocker not suitable for gaming.20:34
c0ffeethe whole device is not really suitable for gaming :/20:37
ptmandepends on the game20:37
ptmanI find the sgt-puzzles package very entertaining20:37
dragornyeah, if gaming were a goal, it'd be a lot more useful to have some buttons on the right20:38
myrenyo quiero a pressure sensitivie analog gaming stick20:38
myrenfricking 4-way / 8-way pads just suck ass20:38
*** pleemans has quit IRC20:42
zyxulnagadyncorp_: i did there is no option for the scroll back buffer20:43
dyncorp_you're right zyxulnaga sorry, i am looking for answers20:43
zyxulnagamaybe its accessible through cli options20:43
*** Gunirus has joined #maemo20:49
*** Gunirus has left #maemo20:49
*** Guard][an has quit IRC20:50
dyncorp_btw, synergy is a nice way to avoid those annoying ssh session disconnects20:50
*** Bipolar has joined #maemo20:50
dyncorp_apt-get dist-upgrade //  osso-app-killer: Depends: osso-bttools but it is not going to be installed20:55
dyncorp_still not found a solution to that (os 2006 latest, new reinstallation)20:55
*** jpetersen_ has joined #maemo20:56
*** jpetersen has quit IRC20:56
keesjdyncorp_: fi you have the disconnects because of a natting router a know an even nicer solution20:56
dyncorp_not going through nat, though the AP is a netgear router20:57
*** Bipolar has quit IRC20:57
keesjyou might want to try this
keesjI has saved me a lot of frustration at my previous work20:59
keesjit output some special char every 3 minutes and keeps the line awake21:00
dyncorp_interesting thanks!21:01
dgssh can do a similar thing itself now (see ServerAliveInterval)21:02
greentuxgood evening21:03
*** daf` has quit IRC21:04
tzzdyncorp: get one of the router firmware packages (I use DD-WRT) and you'll be happy.  I used to have SSH disconnects all the time with 4 routers until I set up DD-WRT on a Linksys 54GS.21:04
*** daf has quit IRC21:04
tzzOpenWRT, etc. would also work.21:04
*** richieeee72 has joined #maemo21:04
*** fab has quit IRC21:04
*** daf has joined #maemo21:05
*** daf` has joined #maemo21:05
greentuxsomebody uses "fuse" on 800???21:06
*** daf has quit IRC21:07
*** kb7sqi has joined #maemo21:12
*** ndepetrillo has quit IRC21:14
tzzdyncorp: also, the `screen' package is very nice; I run everything in a screen session and then I can resume it anytime with a simple "sdr" (alias to screen -d -r).21:14
tzzdyncorp: that way, disconnects and crashes don't matter, and I can access the same things from home and from work as needed.21:15
dyncorp_nice.   thx for the sgt-puzzles link21:15
zyxulnagadyncorp_: I guess you can modify osso-xterm to get the scrollback21:15
dyncorp_yeah i remember when screen came out, in 1989 or so21:15
zyxulnagalooking into the src now21:15
zyxulnagathere is a hacked xterm version21:15
dyncorp_eyah i saw, with control-keys on the right21:16
dyncorp_i hope the dist-upgrade to scratchbox 1.0.7 will let me still produce working OS2006 bins21:17
*** mlpug has quit IRC21:18
*** ndepetrillo has joined #maemo21:19
*** fab has joined #maemo21:20
inztakes a while to generate some d/l statistics for :/21:30
*** koen|galinhas_ has joined #maemo21:30
*** _guardian has joined #maemo21:31
*** booiiing has quit IRC21:32
*** booiiing has joined #maemo21:34
*** koen|galinhas_ has quit IRC21:35
*** guerby has joined #maemo21:35
*** Guard][an has joined #maemo21:35
*** greentux has quit IRC21:35
inzHmm, I'm having some doubts about the stats I just got...21:36
inzThey say that osso-xterm has been d/l'd 23126 times...21:37
ajturnerinz - completed d/l's?21:38
ajturneror inited ones?21:38
inzaj, inited21:38
ajturnerdoes that include pinging to see version#?21:39
ajturnerfor updates?21:39
inzNope, that's done through Packages -file21:39
inzThe funniest thing is I get 25k d/ls for maemo-gaim, but only 1 each for the protocol packages...21:40
inzI think I've messed something up...21:40
*** __shawn has joined #maemo21:45
*** ndepetrillo has quit IRC21:51
*** Guardian has quit IRC21:52
*** chibiAcyd has joined #maemo21:53
*** koen|galinhas has joined #maemo21:53
*** pdz- has joined #maemo21:55
*** _guardian has quit IRC21:56
*** greentux has joined #maemo22:00
*** richieeee72 has left #maemo22:01
*** ndepetrillo has joined #maemo22:01
*** Guard][an has quit IRC22:05
*** pdz has quit IRC22:07
*** koen|galinhas_ has joined #maemo22:08
guerbyinz, FWIW my file put on 20070110 has so far generated 3776 hits from 3076 IP addresses, average on the past month is 44 hits per day22:08
*** Guard][an has joined #maemo22:11
* koen|galinhas_ likes canola for being open sourced today22:14
*** rodarvus has left #maemo22:15
*** koen|galinhas has quit IRC22:16
* Tenkawa will like canola better once it can talk tunes 722:17
Tenkawaer itunes 722:17
X-Fadekoen|galinhas_: Is that announced on the bossa conference?22:18
koen|galinhas_X-Fade: yes22:18
X-FadeN.i.c.e. :)22:18
koen|galinhas_X-Fade: it's waiting on the lawyers now22:18
X-FadeWell, they have to eat too.. I guess.22:18
* koen|galinhas_ feeds the lawyers to the sharks22:19
Tenkawacanola really isa nice app22:20
Tenkawamessed with it last night22:20
koen|galinhas_X-Fade: the conference is real nice as well22:22
*** sbaturzio has joined #maemo22:23
*** yerga has joined #maemo22:24
X-FadeI can imagine. OSS and Brazil.. Can it be even better? :)22:24
*** koen|galinhas_ has quit IRC22:25
*** jpetersen_ has quit IRC22:27
*** sbaturzio has quit IRC22:28
Tenkawared pill mode22:30
*** kender has quit IRC22:31
Tenkawawish this thing wuould pick up dependencies22:31
dyncorp_it does22:32
Tenkawait complained trying to grab g++22:32
*** ndepetrillo has quit IRC22:32
*** jku__ has quit IRC22:33
*** jku__ has joined #maemo22:33
Tenkawadamn this device is sweet22:33
dyncorp_i know, it took me weeks to get used to it22:34
Tenkawajust got mine 2 days ago22:35
dyncorp_show it off, bring it with you, generate sales :)22:35
dyncorp_i went into the local Cellfone stores and they had never heard of it22:36
dyncorp_they pretty much dropped jaws when they saw how good web browsing was22:36
dyncorp_they're idiots.  if they would just buy one and put it in a display case, it would sell22:37
Tenkawai put 4 gig of sd on mine22:38
dyncorp_nice, with i get movies down to about 300-400 MB22:39
TenkawaI might try transcoding a dvd using mplayer22:39
*** sbaturzio has joined #maemo22:40
TenkawaI'd like an irssi port22:40
Tenkawathat would be sweet22:40
Tenkawanot a big x-chat fan22:40
dyncorp_i think there is one22:40
ptmanI'd like an IRC client written for hildon22:41
ptmanone that would behave mostly like the built-in jabber-client22:42
dyncorp_could be added to Contact->Chat app (whatever that is)22:42
ptmananother possibility would be to proxy irc into xmpp22:42
dyncorp_something tunneled through port 80?22:43
Robot101telepathy has an IRC backend, called idle22:43
Tenkawapostgresql packages.. omg22:44
Tenkawabut no mysql :(22:44
*** ndepetrillo has joined #maemo22:44
ptmanwho would like to have mysql?22:44
TenkawaI'd like the cli client22:44
ptmanjust convert you datacenter over to postgresql instead =P22:45
*** yerga has quit IRC22:46
*** rev` has joined #maemo22:47
*** rev` is now known as rev-22:47
*** rev- is now known as nikservss22:51
*** omega_away is now known as omega22:52
*** florian has joined #maemo22:52
*** shackan has joined #maemo22:54
*** Yamazaki-kun has joined #maemo22:57
*** sbaturzio has quit IRC22:57
*** Yamazaki-kun has quit IRC22:57
*** Yamazaki-kun has joined #maemo22:57
*** sbaturzio has joined #maemo23:03
*** nikservss is now known as rev\23:21
*** rev\ is now known as rev|23:21
*** rev| is now known as rev_23:22
*** rev_ is now known as rev23:22
*** k-s has joined #maemo23:28
dyncorp_synergyc would be much nicer if it reset the screen dimmer delay23:30
*** jwb is now known as jwb_gone23:36
*** ccjoe has quit IRC23:40
*** pdz has joined #maemo23:44
*** ccjoe has joined #maemo23:46
*** snorkelyd has left #maemo23:50
*** garrett has quit IRC23:50
*** pdz- has quit IRC23:56
*** Disconnect has quit IRC23:58

Generated by 2.15.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at!