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| mahtava_matt | hi | 02:51 |
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| mahtava_matt | is anyone there? | 02:53 |
| saerdnaer770 | Yes | 02:54 |
| mahtava_matt | cool | 02:54 |
| mahtava_matt | can you help me with my maemo problem | 02:55 |
| saerdnaer770 | Describe | 02:55 |
| mahtava_matt | i'm looking to connect my maemo to my pc, to transfer data wirelessly | 02:56 |
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| mahtava_matt | hello? | 03:16 |
| saerdnaer | i use a cardreader for this, because my 770 is in usb host mode | 03:21 |
| saerdnaer | but if it is in client mode you can access your storage card via usb | 03:23 |
| mahtava_matt | can i connect to a pc wirelessly | 03:29 |
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| jtokash | mahtava_matt, you can if you have a wireless router | 03:36 |
| jtokash | there is also a bluetooth transfer option, but that requires more set up. | 03:37 |
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| mahtava_matt | cool, thanks | 03:52 |
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| minra | good morning | 08:43 |
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| minra | ah mp3 encode author? | 08:52 |
| minra | i mean 770 encode | 08:52 |
| minra | sorry | 08:52 |
| minra | been finding some fascinating ways to reduce bandwidth | 08:53 |
| minra | will send soon... will get internet around january 7 at home | 08:53 |
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| keesj__ | it is such a boring moment of the year | 15:13 |
| timeless | want some excitement? | 15:15 |
| timeless | try https://bugzilla.mozilla.org | 15:15 |
| timeless | it's a new look and feel | 15:15 |
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| timeless | eventually if you don't express opinions now, you'll probably see that look and feel on maemo.org/bugzilla or other similar bugzillas | 15:15 |
| keesj__ | hmm | 15:22 |
| keesj__ | it almost looks web.2.0! | 15:24 |
| timeless | it's like web 1.55 or maybe web 1.7 | 15:24 |
| timeless | it's definitely not web2.0 | 15:24 |
| inz | The buglist table is web 0.5 | 15:24 |
| timeless | there are plans for 2.0, but they won't make bugzilla3.0 | 15:25 |
| timeless | maybe 3.2 | 15:25 |
| keesj__ | it looks more atractive | 15:25 |
| timeless | anyway, i'm more interested in complaints than praise | 15:25 |
| keesj__ | I still prefer jira by far | 15:25 |
| timeless | the only form of praise that counts is complaining to your friendly neighborhood bugzilla admins in january that they haven't upgraded | 15:25 |
| keesj__ | better:) | 15:25 |
| timeless | why do you like jira? | 15:25 |
| timeless | try loading (in firefox) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailreporter1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=timeless%40bemail.org&field0-0-0=bug_status&type0-0-0=notequals&value0-0-0=UNCONFIRMED&field0-0-1=reporter&type0-0-1=equals&value0-0-1=timeless%40bemail.org | 15:26 |
| keesj__ | it matches better with in workflow. it's a pleasure to use it | 15:27 |
| timeless | please be more precise | 15:27 |
| timeless | i really can't read minds | 15:27 |
| tko | timeless, was that supposed to be an improvement? | 15:27 |
| timeless | tko: which 'that' | 15:27 |
| timeless | i really can't read minds :( | 15:27 |
| tko | timeless, bugzilla.m.o upgrade | 15:27 |
| timeless | well, yeah :|. what's wrong | 15:28 |
| timeless | there's a red box at the top which kinda explains | 15:28 |
| tko | the first page of a bug is full of useless noise, more or less | 15:28 |
| timeless | /index.cgi ? | 15:28 |
| tko | show_bug.cgi | 15:28 |
| keesj__ | timeless did you ever use jiro? | 15:28 |
| keesj__ | jira | 15:28 |
| timeless | keesj: pretend i haven't | 15:28 |
| timeless | heck, pretend i've never used any bugtracker | 15:29 |
| timeless | and explain what you like better about jira over bugzilla | 15:29 |
| keesj__ | I guess it is user friendly, you will amost create and reuse view with no effort, it's nice that you can add time to a bug | 15:30 |
| timeless | "add time to a bug?" | 15:31 |
| timeless | note that bugzilla has a time tracking feature, it's not enabled on bmo | 15:31 |
| timeless | please please be preicse | 15:31 |
| timeless | what does "it is user friendly" mean? what is "it" what/how is [it] "user friendly" | 15:31 |
| timeless | what do you mean by "create and reuse view"? | 15:32 |
| timeless | i'm not being or trying to be mean, i really really don't understand | 15:32 |
| timeless | and i can't fix what i don't understand | 15:32 |
| X-Fade | Timeless, the problem with bugzilla on maemo is also that you have just too many options.. | 15:33 |
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| keesj__ | oke, but it's a bit hard for me to explain . bugzilla has this barebones feeling to it. | 15:33 |
| X-Fade | Hardware,product,OS,Version,priority,sverity etc etc.. | 15:34 |
| timeless | x-fade: pretend i've never used "bugzilla on maemo" (in fact there's more than one) | 15:34 |
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| * mgedmin thinks that GNOME bugzilla (but not the upstream bugzilla) is the most bug-submitter-friendly bug tracker /me has ever used | 15:34 | |
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| timeless | mgedmin: we will try to integrate their things | 15:34 |
| X-Fade | mgedmin: Yep, I like that one too.. | 15:34 |
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| timeless | they're just slow to refactor their patches and send them upstream | 15:34 |
| X-Fade | Quick summary at the top.. | 15:34 |
| timeless | the classification work on bmo came by stealing the patch they had | 15:34 |
| timeless | and fixing it :( | 15:34 |
| timeless | because their patch wasn't good enough for them to send upstream :( | 15:35 |
| timeless | https://bugzilla-snapshot-20061226.mozilla.org/ is the old BMO in case you want to compare | 15:35 |
| X-Fade | I just think that the number of options should be reduced to 20% of what it is now.. | 15:35 |
| X-Fade | Bugzilla also assumes too much knowledge about the product by the user.. | 15:36 |
| X-Fade | If my desktop is white, what category should I use? | 15:37 |
| X-Fade | It is just too complicated to determine that.. | 15:37 |
| timeless | x-fade: hrm | 15:37 |
| timeless | have you seen guided enter bug? | 15:37 |
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| timeless | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Firefox&format=guided | 15:38 |
| X-Fade | timeless: https://maemo.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi ? | 15:38 |
| timeless | unfortunately you need to be logged in to use enter_bug :( | 15:38 |
| X-Fade | haf: Hildon Application Framework | 15:38 |
| tko | X-Fade, General/General or whatever.. if you ask me there should be two ways to file bugs, 1) as end user you don't need to care about internal structure (there's only one way to file it) and 2) as a developer you definitely need to know the package | 15:38 |
| X-Fade | WHAT the hell is that :) | 15:38 |
| X-Fade | Users don't know what that is.. | 15:38 |
| timeless | https://maemo.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=applications&format=guided | 15:38 |
| X-Fade | They just know that their desktop is dead.. | 15:38 |
| timeless | note that maemo for whatever reason has essentially broken guided and doesn't show it | 15:38 |
| timeless | this is a bug in maemo's configuration | 15:39 |
| timeless | (the people running maemo really could use some help) | 15:39 |
| timeless | (they're free to talk to me at any time) | 15:39 |
| timeless | https://maemo.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=Nokia%20770&format=guided | 15:39 |
| timeless | is probably a slightly better form | 15:39 |
| timeless | anyway, the way maemo is setup using products isn't the wisest way to do it | 15:40 |
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| timeless | end users should probably only see the Nokia 770 product | 15:40 |
| timeless | since the others don't make sense to end users | 15:40 |
| X-Fade | Yeah, and then a lot of options don't make sense.. | 15:40 |
| timeless | so let's take your example, "desktop is dead" (not that i have a clue what you mean by that" | 15:40 |
| X-Fade | Hardware, OS.. | 15:41 |
| timeless | assume you landed at | 15:41 |
| timeless | https://maemo.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=Nokia%20770&format=guided | 15:41 |
| timeless | would you be able to pick the right component? | 15:41 |
| keesj__ | I don't think real end users will enter a bug in bugzilla ever | 15:41 |
| X-Fade | Desktop is there.. | 15:41 |
| * timeless will now drag x-fade through the process | 15:41 | |
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| timeless | ok, will you choose it? | 15:41 |
| keesj__ | they will call or go to the shop | 15:41 |
| X-Fade | But the next 3 options don't make sense at all.. | 15:41 |
| timeless | that's a misconfiguration of maemo's bugzilla | 15:41 |
| timeless | on bmo i can change what os's exist and what platforms | 15:42 |
| timeless | that's not my fault | 15:42 |
| timeless | pretend you saw this: | 15:42 |
| timeless | Hardware: [ Nokia 770 |v] | 15:42 |
| timeless | | Nokia 870 | | 15:42 |
| timeless | would you be able to pick that correctly? | 15:42 |
| timeless | assume also that if you chose to use your device that it would correctly guess the model | 15:43 |
| timeless | Operating Ssytem [ OS 2005 |v] | 15:43 |
| timeless | | OS 2005 SR1 | | 15:43 |
| timeless | | OS 2005 SR2 | | 15:43 |
| timeless | | OS 2006 | | 15:43 |
| timeless | | OS 2006 SR1 | | 15:43 |
| timeless | | OS 2007 | | 15:43 |
| X-Fade | timeless: I filed multiple bugs on maemo. And I know the components of the product. I only say that it is currently to confusing for joe user. | 15:44 |
| timeless | note that i'm merely guessing about these names and numbers | 15:44 |
| timeless | x-fade: please stay with me, | 15:44 |
| timeless | assume that you were presented w/ the url i gave | 15:44 |
| X-Fade | Those options you present would be easy to follow.. | 15:44 |
| timeless | ok | 15:44 |
| timeless | so far we're describing misconfigurations in maemo's bugzilla | 15:44 |
| timeless | figure out how to get the person who runs it to contact me and i'll get them resolved | 15:44 |
| tko | timeless, you forgot the option "I don't know / I don't care" that should be selected by default :) | 15:45 |
| timeless | next, Build Identifier | 15:45 |
| timeless | Pretend it said something about opening control panel and opening the device or about product thing | 15:45 |
| timeless | would you be able to fill that in? | 15:45 |
| timeless | (guided is a template and can be replaced/changed/customized, and this field should be customized for maemo) | 15:45 |
| tko | timeless, ferenc is on leave for a while now.. | 15:45 |
| timeless | i can't help that :( | 15:45 |
| X-Fade | Sure, but how would I reach that in my case? :) | 15:45 |
| timeless | x-fase: your device is broken? | 15:46 |
| X-Fade | We were filling out the bug that the complete desktop is white ;) | 15:46 |
| timeless | please ignore my typos, i'm tired and trying to type quickly | 15:46 |
| timeless | ok | 15:46 |
| timeless | The note should say "if you can't figure this out, leave it blank" or soemthing | 15:46 |
| X-Fade | So checking things is not an option.. | 15:46 |
| timeless | fine, that's no problem. moving along | 15:46 |
| timeless | URL should also have a note about leaving it blank | 15:47 |
| timeless | you're now at summary | 15:47 |
| timeless | what was (is) your summary? | 15:47 |
| * timeless waits | 15:47 | |
| X-Fade | But if you would describe that is simple steps, a normal user should be able to find that.. | 15:47 |
| * timeless is in interactive mode | 15:47 | |
| timeless | X-Fade: one sec | 15:47 |
| timeless | Tap the Home Hardware key on your device (after powering it on) | 15:47 |
| timeless | Tap the widget in the center of the bar on the left side of your screen | 15:48 |
| timeless | it should give you a menu | 15:48 |
| timeless | assuming the menu hasn't been customized, tap tools | 15:48 |
| timeless | tap control panel | 15:48 |
| timeless | tap device | 15:48 |
| timeless | (double tap) | 15:48 |
| timeless | tap about product | 15:48 |
| timeless | enter the text from the line labeled Version: | 15:49 |
| X-Fade | Sure. A normal user should be able to do that.. | 15:49 |
| timeless | there's nothing preventing this from being in guided | 15:49 |
| timeless | can someone do me a favor and log this and send it to timeless@gmail.com when i finish? | 15:49 |
| timeless | or to ferenc cc timeless, whichever | 15:49 |
| * timeless isn't in a position to do that :( | 15:50 | |
| timeless | next, back to your example, please tell me your summary | 15:50 |
| * timeless busy waits | 15:50 | |
| X-Fade | bug 910 | 15:50 |
| X-Fade | Don't think I need to paste all that here :) | 15:51 |
| timeless | ok, so, um, i'll fill this in, stop me when you think i did something wrong | 15:51 |
| timeless | Summary: Upgrading to Sardine results in unusable device. | 15:51 |
| timeless | Details: <as you wrote in c0> | 15:52 |
| timeless | Reproduc... Every (default) | 15:52 |
| timeless | Steps to Reproduce: | 15:52 |
| timeless | you didn't fill this in | 15:52 |
| timeless | and guess what? | 15:52 |
| timeless | i have a 770 right next to me, i can't follow your bug | 15:52 |
| X-Fade | "I have been able to reproduce this for the second time by flashing the device | 15:52 |
| timeless | seriously, i'd gladly follow your steps and antagonize someone to get it resolved | 15:52 |
| X-Fade | again and following all steps on the wiki." | 15:52 |
| timeless | but i can't | 15:52 |
| timeless | you didn't fill in the URL field and there's no URL in the bug | 15:53 |
| timeless | i'm not going to go hunting for some wiki | 15:53 |
| timeless | don't make me do that. please | 15:53 |
| timeless | i have thousands or millions of things to do | 15:53 |
| X-Fade | timeless: In this case, whatever you do. You will always be able to reproduce it.. | 15:53 |
| timeless | no. i won't, because instead i'll do something else | 15:53 |
| timeless | seriously, i'm sure for you an expert it's trivial to do | 15:53 |
| X-Fade | timeless: Heh. not even 1000 bugs in 1.5 years :) | 15:53 |
| timeless | but ofor me, | 15:53 |
| timeless | x-fade: remember the buglist url i gave a while ago? | 15:54 |
| timeless | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailreporter1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=timeless%40bemail.org&field0-0-0=bug_status&type0-0-0=notequals&value0-0-0=UNCONFIRMED&field0-0-1=reporter&type0-0-1=equals&value0-0-1=timeless%40bemail.org | 15:54 |
| timeless | This list is too long for Bugzilla's little mind; the Next/Prev/First/Last buttons won't appear on individual bugs. | 15:54 |
| timeless | 1798 bugs found. | 15:54 |
| timeless | i'm quite serious when i say thousands of bugs | 15:54 |
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| X-Fade | timeless: This bug is directly filed agains members of the HAF team. They *know* something is broken.. And they know how to test it.. | 15:54 |
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| timeless | x-fade: sure, but the thing is, i'm not a member of haf | 15:55 |
| timeless | and yet, i can and will antagonize people into fixing things | 15:55 |
| timeless | but only if i can follow steps to reproduce | 15:55 |
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| timeless | https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=916 | 15:55 |
| timeless | compare your bug w/ that one | 15:55 |
| X-Fade | change mistral -> sardine in sources.list and type apt-get update, apt-get upgrade :) | 15:55 |
| timeless | ok. now we've made progress | 15:56 |
| timeless | could you have filled that into steps? | 15:56 |
| suihkulokki | X-Fade: I agree with timeless, there should be step by step instructions. But it's the person bug is assigned to, who should have asked for it | 15:56 |
| timeless | i mean seriously, your steps clearly wouldn't have taken long to write | 15:56 |
| timeless | suihkulokki: the assignee should have, and bugzilla /can/ if properly configured | 15:57 |
| timeless | i'm willing to admit that maemo.org/bugzilla is misconfigured | 15:57 |
| keesj__ | I have this error message while compiling xmoto is it my fault? http://www.paste-it.net/808 | 15:57 |
| timeless | that's cheap for me :) | 15:57 |
| keesj__ | sorry 809 | 15:57 |
| timeless | this paste is either expired or it never existed at all! ? | 15:57 |
| X-Fade | timeless: I would agree that if there is a question to describe it step by step. That I would have done that.. | 15:58 |
| timeless | head -52 /scratchbox/compilers/cs2005q3.2-glibc-arm/lib/gcc/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/3.4.4/../../../../include/c++/3.4.4/cstddef| tail -1 | 15:58 |
| timeless | => keesj__ | 15:58 |
| timeless | x-fade: seriously, i know you think it isn't worth your time | 15:58 |
| timeless | but there are random people who will follow steps | 15:58 |
| timeless | i'm one of them | 15:58 |
| timeless | even if it isn't something i work on | 15:58 |
| timeless | but i don't read minds. i absolutely refuse to read minds | 15:59 |
| X-Fade | timeless: But if you need that info, there sould be an option to ask for that.. | 15:59 |
| timeless | note that i file hundreds of bugs, but i still include steps to reproudce | 15:59 |
| keesj__ | using ::ptrdiff_t; | 15:59 |
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| timeless | g++ -DPACKAGE_NAME=\"\" -DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\"\" -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\"\" -DPACKAGE_STRING=\"\" -DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\"\" -DPACKAGE=\"xmoto\" -DVERSION=\"0.2.3\" -DXMOTO_LITTLE_ENDIAN=1 -DHAVE_LIBZ=1 -DHAVE_LIBJPEG=1 -DHAVE_LIBPNG=1 -DHAVE_LIBBZ2=1 -DHAVE_LIBSDL_MIXER=1 -DHAVE_LIBSDL_GFX=1 -DHAVE_LUA_H=1 -DHAVE_LAUXLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_LUALIB_H=1 -DHAVE_LIBCURL=1 -Doff_t=long -DHAVE_LONG_LONG=1 -DHAVE_LONG_DOUBLE=1 -DHAVE_WCHAR_T=1 -DHAVE_WINT_T=1 -DHAVE_INTTYPES_H_ | 16:00 |
| timeless | eep | 16:00 |
| timeless | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2332 | 16:00 |
| X-Fade | timeless: the guided form has "Steps to Reproduce" which should be ok for this.. | 16:00 |
| timeless | => keesj__ | 16:00 |
| timeless | x-fade: right, ok | 16:00 |
| timeless | anyway, i take it that you'd be ok w/ the rest of the fields | 16:01 |
| X-Fade | Yep. | 16:01 |
| timeless | obviously additional information shouldn't mention Talkback, that can be customized (and probably shouldn't be in the default, i'll file a bug nowish) | 16:01 |
| X-Fade | Now the bug summary page :) | 16:01 |
| X-Fade | the show bug page is way to complicated. It isn't easy to pick out the key elements. | 16:02 |
| timeless | please hold, i'm not the best multitasker | 16:03 |
| timeless | ok, talkback bug filed | 16:03 |
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| timeless | which bug should we use, 910 or 916? | 16:04 |
| timeless | obviously i have a preference for one of them since i kinda like it, but i don't care that much | 16:04 |
| X-Fade | don't care. They all look the same ;) | 16:04 |
| * timeless nods | 16:04 | |
| timeless | fwiw in case people are curious, any numbers i write here except specific bug numbers are totally random and have no bearing on anything real, imagined, or otherwise </standard-disclaimer> | 16:05 |
| timeless | ok, so, hrm... now i'm kinda stuck | 16:05 |
| timeless | what do you actually care about? | 16:06 |
| timeless | oh man, this is 2.17.7 | 16:06 |
| * timeless sighs | 16:06 | |
| X-Fade | timeless: Don't care which one you pick for our example. | 16:06 |
| X-Fade | Not "Don't care" in a general manner :) | 16:06 |
| timeless | bmo is running 2.23.3 | 16:06 |
| * timeless wonders when 2.17.x is end of lifed | 16:06 | |
| X-Fade | https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=916 | 16:07 |
| X-Fade | Let's pick that one.. | 16:07 |
| timeless | do you have an account on bugzilla.mozilla.org? | 16:07 |
| X-Fade | I have a 1280x1024 display, and still can't see what this bug is about without scrolling.. | 16:07 |
| X-Fade | timeless: Nope.. | 16:07 |
| timeless | bgo? | 16:08 |
| timeless | 2.18 dates to some time around Mar, 2004 | 16:08 |
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| timeless | supported versions appear to be 2.18.6, 2.20.3, 2.22.1, and 2.23.3 | 16:09 |
| timeless | bugzilla.gnome.org? | 16:09 |
| timeless | bugzilla.redhat.com, bugzilla.novell.com ? | 16:09 |
| timeless | (anything that's at least slightly less ancient than maemo/bugzilla) | 16:10 |
| timeless | sorry, the reason i ask this is that maemo/bugzilla has 3 tabs for preferences | 16:10 |
| timeless | bugzilla in 2.20 had 5 tabs, one was a 'general preferences' which included some ui prefs | 16:11 |
| X-Fade | timeless: Yeah, on gnome.. | 16:11 |
| timeless | oh good :) | 16:11 |
| X-Fade | Sorry, was on the phone :) | 16:11 |
| timeless | http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=378605 | 16:12 |
| timeless | just a random bug, you're free to pick a different one | 16:12 |
| timeless | i presume you're logged in | 16:12 |
| timeless | http://bugzilla.gnome.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=settings | 16:12 |
| timeless | note the When viewing a bug, show comments in this order option | 16:13 |
| timeless | not sayinig it's a great option or anything, just noting that it exists | 16:13 |
| keesj__ | timeless: the ouput of the program is quite long and I can't pastes itfully http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2333 | 16:13 |
| timeless | :( pastebins do have limits :( | 16:13 |
| X-Fade | timeless: Yeah, i know that option.. | 16:13 |
| _matthias__ | anyone at 23c3 | 16:13 |
| _matthias__ | ? | 16:13 |
| timeless | 23c3? | 16:13 |
| X-Fade | But gnome has the advantage that you can see all info about the bug in a glance. | 16:14 |
| _matthias__ | http://events.ccc.de/congress/2006/Home | 16:14 |
| X-Fade | timeless: So you see your report, and all product details in one glance.. | 16:14 |
| timeless | x-fade: you mean the box on the right w/ the light greenish background? | 16:14 |
| X-Fade | timeless: yep | 16:14 |
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| * timeless nods | 16:15 | |
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| X-Fade | that info takes the whole page on maemo.org ;) | 16:15 |
| X-Fade | Compare that to: https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=916 | 16:16 |
| X-Fade | The horror :) | 16:16 |
| * timeless nods | 16:16 | |
| timeless | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5597 | 16:16 |
| timeless | note that it's an excuse, but there's a link "Last Comment" at the top right | 16:16 |
| timeless | which will get you kinda where you want to go | 16:16 |
| timeless | s/note/not/ :( | 16:16 |
| * timeless pings bkor about the box | 16:17 | |
| X-Fade | Till takes too much screen estate.. | 16:17 |
| * timeless nods | 16:17 | |
| X-Fade | All options that don't have a value should be hidden too.. | 16:17 |
| X-Fade | Keywords: | 16:17 |
| X-Fade | Whiteboard: | 16:17 |
| X-Fade | Away with them :) | 16:17 |
| timeless | hrm | 16:18 |
| * timeless looks for a wiki page or something to add these notes | 16:18 | |
| X-Fade | Same for target milestone.. | 16:18 |
| timeless | x-fade: seriously, do you have a log? | 16:18 |
| timeless | because i'd like to have it, and i really can't get one easily | 16:18 |
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| * timeless has already lost quite a large portion from scrollback :( | 16:19 | |
| X-Fade | timeless: Ehm I think I can get irssi to save this for me ;) | 16:19 |
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| X-Fade | I only have to find out how to save the backscroll :) | 16:21 |
| keesj__ | I have a log | 16:27 |
| keesj__ | can I paste it or something? | 16:27 |
| ||cw | on a pastebin of some sort | 16:30 |
| keesj__ | http://paste-it.net/sf90ba8 | 16:33 |
| X-Fade | Thanks! | 16:33 |
| X-Fade | timeless: So what do you think, can be done to simplify that view? | 16:36 |
| timeless | i tend to use pageup | 16:37 |
| timeless | pastebin.mozilla.org would be nice | 16:37 |
| timeless | sorry, i was away trying to get someone to trigger a crash | 16:37 |
| timeless | we have steps, but one of them is "install 50-100 packages based on dpkg -l' | 16:38 |
| timeless | keesj__: wrt that .i file, you could probably just email it to me, i'd be willing to read it i suppose | 16:39 |
| X-Fade | timeless: http://paste-it.net/sf90ba8/raw/ | 16:40 |
| timeless | thanks | 16:41 |
| timeless | fwiw i'm going to do a bit of revisionist history, e.g. i'll make the bars line up :) | 16:41 |
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| timeless | http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dhmd4jxt_20t8hvv7 | 16:45 |
| timeless | if anyone wants to be removed from it, let me know | 16:46 |
| timeless | anyway, back shortly. baby sitting crash and such | 16:46 |
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| timeless | ok, turns out that my crash is basically "install gpe and try using it" | 17:15 |
| timeless | so far i've crashed the desktop and the x server | 17:15 |
| timeless | nothing major :) | 17:15 |
| keesj__ | have found settings that make it work, aparently configures adds -Dptrdiff_t=long | 17:17 |
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| * timeless tries to add that to a huge list of useless mental facts :) | 17:18 | |
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| kender | hello | 19:09 |
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| keesj__ | Hi kender | 19:10 |
| kender | hey keesj__ | 19:10 |
| keesj__ | you have you n770 for 2 week now right? | 19:13 |
| kender | no | 19:14 |
| kender | I haven't the n770 yet | 19:14 |
| keesj__ | you only have the sdk? | 19:14 |
| kender | by now yes | 19:15 |
| kender | hehe | 19:15 |
| keesj__ | your not a real gadget freak | 19:16 |
| * mgedmin is always irritated by people misspelling "you're" | 19:16 | |
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| kender | mgedmin, :D | 19:17 |
| keesj__ | oops | 19:17 |
| timeless | s/your not/you aren't/ | 19:17 |
| kender | yep | 19:17 |
| timeless | even using "you're" isn't very good | 19:17 |
| mgedmin | maybe it isn't, but it doesn't irritate me ;) | 19:17 |
| timeless | although i'm not quite sure i'd expect a foreigner to know that one | 19:17 |
| kender | I'm not english, and I have to do a great effort to undertand that | 19:17 |
| kender | <keesj__> your not a real gadget freak -> I'm expecting to be | 19:17 |
| timeless | mgedmin: your tolerance is higher than mine or your sensitivity is lower | 19:18 |
| mgedmin | I'm not English, and I think that's why it's easier for me to see the difference between "your" and "you're" -- I do not pronounce them in the same way | 19:18 |
| timeless | kender: i'm not English (i.e. British) either | 19:18 |
| kender | I'm waiting, to see how the future "870" goes | 19:18 |
| timeless | but I am a native English speaker | 19:18 |
| * timeless comes from across the pond | 19:18 | |
| kender | well, that's what I mean | 19:18 |
| timeless | yes, but it isn't what you wrote :) | 19:18 |
| kender | yep | 19:19 |
| kender | sorry | 19:19 |
| kender | hehehe | 19:19 |
| kender | I'm not as good as I want in english language | 19:19 |
| timeless | Suomalainen != Suomi | 19:19 |
| timeless | s/in/to be when it comes to my mastery of the/ | 19:20 |
| timeless | or something lik ethat | 19:20 |
| timeless | and capitalize English :) | 19:20 |
| kender | :D | 19:20 |
| timeless | if you want me to stop correcting, just say so | 19:21 |
| keesj__ | I think I understand the difference, | 19:21 |
| timeless | i'm assuming otherwise that you're benefiting from it | 19:21 |
| kender | nomis, please, is the only way to learn | 19:21 |
| * timeless is missing a comma or two in that last line | 19:21 | |
| kender | timeless, sure | 19:21 |
| * mgedmin happy that vncviewer now works with the updated vino in ubuntu | 19:21 | |
| keesj__ | English is just to fuzzy , /me needs a compiler to learn things | 19:23 |
| timeless | s/to/too/ | 19:24 |
| mgedmin | s/ ,/,/ | 19:24 |
| * mgedmin hides | 19:24 | |
| kender | keesj__, but, by now, is the only way to understand each other | 19:24 |
| kender | mgedmin, I don't think so | 19:25 |
| kender | the correct way, is s/,/, / | 19:25 |
| timeless | you should forgive whitespace | 19:25 |
| timeless | anyone using a 770 would have that space | 19:25 |
| timeless | otherwise their completion gets messsed up | 19:25 |
| timeless | s/sss/ss/ | 19:25 |
| mgedmin | I disabled the "insert space after completion" option in my 770 | 19:26 |
| timeless | i'm too lazy to do that | 19:26 |
| timeless | everytime i restore my device, i lose my settings | 19:26 |
| mgedmin | helps a lot with vim :) | 19:26 |
| * timeless needs to go find the maemomapper google maps urls again :(~ | 19:26 | |
| timeless | stupid backup doesn't understand the concept of "backup settings" | 19:26 |
| kender | hehehe | 19:27 |
| timeless | it seems to mean "backup some useless subset of nokia settings" | 19:27 |
| kender | save all the /home/user/.* | 19:27 |
| timeless | it clearly doesn't do that | 19:27 |
| kender | keesj__, a compiler to learn things? | 19:28 |
| timeless | gcc -E | 19:29 |
| timeless | preprocess to something more digestable :) | 19:29 |
| timeless | cl /Tenglish /E | 19:30 |
| timeless | for those using an ms compiler | 19:30 |
| timeless | (not that it understands English) | 19:30 |
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| kender | http://www.youtube.com/v/sF1Tm9m6eUo | 19:36 |
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| keesj__ | kender: if there is nobody to correct me, how can I learn? | 19:49 |
| kender | keesj__, learn what? | 19:49 |
| keesj__ | English | 19:49 |
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| mahtava_matt | hi | 19:51 |
| mahtava_matt | is it possible to stream data from my laptop to my 770. (xp to maemo) | 19:51 |
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| kender | sorry | 19:52 |
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| kender | keesj__, reading a lot, and learning english gramatic | 19:52 |
| timeless | s/gramatic/grammar/ ? | 19:53 |
| kender | :D | 19:53 |
| kender | thanks | 19:53 |
| timeless | note: i'm not paying attn to this channel at all | 19:53 |
| * timeless shouldn't abbreviate attention | 19:53 | |
| kender | hehehe | 19:53 |
| kender | that's what I'm going to say | 19:53 |
| kender | hehe | 19:53 |
| mahtava_matt | is anyone able to help | 19:56 |
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| myren | mahtava_matt: we would except you've expressed such profound lack of knowledge its hard to know where to start. there's probably a samba-client for maemo that'll let you access windows file shares. | 20:00 |
| mahtava_matt | "such profoundlack of knowledge" That is just too rude | 20:01 |
| myren | then bugger off | 20:02 |
| mgedmin | ouch | 20:03 |
| mgedmin | however "to stream data" is too vague for a good answer | 20:03 |
| myren | i presume he meant access files | 20:03 |
| mgedmin | would HTTP work? | 20:03 |
| mahtava_matt | myren: you're a real piece of work you are, i come looking for help, so you first tell me i have a profound lack of knowledge, then you tell me to bugger off! i think you should, this is no place to be rude like that! | 20:05 |
| mahtava_matt | an example of what i want to do is: play an mp3 file that i have on my laptop hdd on my 770 without having to actually store the file on the device. | 20:06 |
| mahtava_matt | is this possible? | 20:06 |
| myren | i fucking told you god damn it there's probably some samba client you can fucking use to mount windows fiel shares. | 20:06 |
| mgedmin | I am sure it is | 20:06 |
| mgedmin | myren: there's no call to be rude | 20:07 |
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| timeless | you could just configure an internet radio thing | 20:07 |
| myren | if you want to be a stuck up twat and ask the same question again after getting offended at my first answer | 20:07 |
| timeless | assuming all you want is mp3 playing | 20:07 |
| mahtava_matt | myren: pull your head in!! | 20:07 |
| * timeless wonders if shoutcast works | 20:07 | |
| mgedmin | I use gnump3d for that purpose | 20:07 |
| mgedmin | but then I use ubuntu instead of XP | 20:07 |
| myren | yes it does but i suspect windows shares would be easier for this luser than setting up a shoutcast server | 20:07 |
| mahtava_matt | mgedmin: thanks | 20:07 |
| * timeless shrugs | 20:08 | |
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| mgedmin | ah, but I suspect mounting windows shares on the 770 might be harder than exporting a directory over HTTP | 20:08 |
| timeless | i think it's easier to buy a radio and listen to a real broadcast | 20:08 |
| timeless | get an xm radio and you can have even more channels :) | 20:08 |
| myren | lol | 20:08 |
| myren | how could he mount the http? | 20:08 |
| mgedmin | then there's that UPnP stuff that I know nothing about | 20:08 |
| mahtava_matt | myren: i may have phrased my question vaguely but that doesn't mean you have to be utterly rude towards me | 20:09 |
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| timeless | i think windows media center edition does upnp | 20:09 |
| mgedmin | myren: IIRC if you click on a .mp3 file in Opera, it will open that file in the Audio Player | 20:09 |
| myren | my rude answer doesnt mean you have to ignore the techn ical suggestions | 20:09 |
| timeless | not really sure about xp | 20:09 |
| timeless | i've certainly never tried | 20:09 |
| mgedmin | of course, if you want to listen to more than one mp3 at a time, something like gnump3d might be better | 20:09 |
| mgedmin | assuming it runs on XP | 20:09 |
| myren | i wasnt aware thre was upnp on the 770. | 20:09 |
| mgedmin | tadah! | 20:10 |
| mgedmin | http://www.gnu.org/software/gnump3d/ | 20:10 |
| mgedmin | "Portable across different varieties of Unix, the GNU Operating System, and Microsoft Windows platforms." | 20:10 |
| mahtava_matt | myren: you being rude means, that i will ignore you, you're not worth me time | 20:10 |
| glass | put a winamp on the xp machine giving a shoutcast stream and then winamp web interface... | 20:10 |
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| * mgedmin would be happy if people actually ignored each other instead of being loudly rude to each other while innocent bystanders have to listen | 20:10 | |
| timeless | mahtava: be nice, mgedin was here first | 20:11 |
| timeless | you came in and made some very very very very vague statement that could be interpretted as a useless query | 20:11 |
| myren | i just think its insane what a crybaby this kid is, and how he's ignored all technical disucssion to instead whine about how greviously i've injured him. | 20:11 |
| timeless | no one here read minds | 20:11 |
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| myren | ok that was a whiny statement myself | 20:11 |
| mahtava_matt | timeless: it does not matter who was here first, we are not in preschool anymore | 20:12 |
| myren | then express knowledge greater than that of a preschooler. | 20:13 |
| * timeless shrugs | 20:13 | |
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| mahtava_matt | myren: you have not greviously injured me, that's a joke. | 20:13 |
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| * koen hands #maemo http://xkcd.com/c169.html | 20:14 | |
| myren | it wont render in lynx. :( | 20:15 |
| myren | i never got framebuffer working in links2 | 20:15 |
| myren | which comic is it? | 20:15 |
| mgedmin | "words that end in gry" | 20:17 |
| myren | aggry, ahungry, angry, anhungry, hungry, unhungry | 20:18 |
| myren | those are the 6 english language words enging in gry | 20:18 |
| * mgedmin thinks myren missed the point | 20:19 | |
| myren | i cant see it. :( | 20:19 |
| myren | and i dont remember it | 20:19 |
| myren | wed, must be the new one | 20:19 |
| myren | i wonder if xkcd is parsable via AA lib | 20:20 |
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| myren | (my fuji p1120's ATI driver broke in the last superpatch to the ati tree... i've been out an X server for 2 months now) | 20:21 |
| mgedmin | I remember the time when I used links and zgv for reading webcomics | 20:22 |
| mgedmin | my laptop had less horsepower than my nokia 770 | 20:22 |
| myren | excellent, i'll have to try that | 20:22 |
| myren | i need to figure out how to get SVGATextMode to accept a better resolution | 20:23 |
| myren | it crashes the display if i specify >80 column width. suxor. | 20:24 |
| mgedmin | ouch | 20:27 |
| mgedmin | svgatextmode never worked for me with any recent video card | 20:27 |
| mgedmin | but radeonfb gives me a pretty sane 128x48 text console on my laptop | 20:28 |
| Krush | when talking about resolution, is there a way to make hildon work on larger screen, e.g. 1024x768 on a tv | 20:29 |
| Krush | i have already noticed a screenshot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/johanbilien/268489151/ showing a 1600x1200 (perhaps one of yours) desktop, but it looks a bit crippled | 20:30 |
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| keesj__ | are there people interested in helping porting xmoto to the n770? | 20:39 |
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| keesj__ | perhaps I'd better send an email to the list | 20:40 |
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| inz | keesj, I could try to give a hand | 20:55 |
| keesj__ | inz I have been working on it for some time now http://wiki.xmoto.free.fr/index.php?title=SDL_gfx | 21:00 |
| keesj__ | and the xmoto guy is mering the code as we speak. but there will be some performace issues | 21:04 |
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| inz | keesj, I'll take closer look tomorrow | 21:08 |
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| keesj__ | great! | 21:12 |
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| myren | earleir thread, mgedmin just left, | 21:25 |
| myren | how do i adjust my resolution with a fb module? | 21:25 |
| myren | i have radeonfb modprobed, how do i alter its resolution? | 21:25 |
| keesj__ | myren: are you on the right channel? | 21:26 |
| myren | yes. | 21:27 |
| myren | we were discussing it earleir | 21:27 |
| myren | jeezus, i cannot spell earlier | 21:27 |
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| c0ffee | neither can you spell 'jesus' | 21:31 |
| keesj__ | lol | 21:31 |
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| mahtava_matt | does anyone know where i can get the "smbfs" package for my 770 | 21:46 |
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| ||cw | mahtava_matt: it's not on the application catalog? | 21:57 |
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| mahtava_matt | ||cw: no i can't find it and when i try and install "samba" or "smbclient" they both come up with errors, saying that they can't find it. | 22:29 |
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| timeless | hello, i'm getting a script error in IE when i load wiktionary pages | 23:17 |
| timeless | is this expected behavior? | 23:18 |
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| ||cw | timeless: what, IE not supporting standards? yeah that's pretty expected in general :D | 23:22 |
| ||cw | i have a win2k insall with ie6 sp1 that gives about 10 errors on loading msn.com | 23:24 |
| ||cw | I don't get an error on http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Main_Page though | 23:24 |
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| timeless | hrm, wrong channel | 23:35 |
| * timeless cries | 23:35 | |
| timeless | this is more like people who can't write good js | 23:35 |
| timeless | standards was a different bug i had an hour before | 23:36 |
| timeless | where ie chose to use an ALT attribute as a tooltip instead of a TITLE attribute :( | 23:36 |
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