| mgedmin | hm, but then why isn't the task navigator blended into the background on my 770 | 00:00 | 
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| Zmanu | hello | 00:20 | 
| Zmanu | i have a wifi connection, but impossible to find how to define security key | 00:21 | 
| Zmanu | i select connection | 00:21 | 
| Zmanu | but after i don't find where put my key wifi | 00:22 | 
| wasabi_ | anybody use a gps with the 770? | 00:24 | 
| wasabi_ | Need brand recommendations. Cheep. Simple. Only ups + bluetooth | 00:24 | 
| Zmanu | i ask because i don't have doc and with links it's not easy | 00:25 | 
| mgedmin | Zmanu: who needs docs, just explore the menus | 00:26 | 
| mgedmin | IIRC if you go to control panel, you'll find a connectivity sections applet | 00:26 | 
| Zmanu | mgedmin: i explore and don't find :/ | 00:26 | 
| spect | Zmanu: it should ask you automagicaly when you are trying to connect | 00:26 | 
| mgedmin | in there there's a button that gives you a list of saved connections | 00:26 | 
| mgedmin | and in that window you can add or edit connections | 00:26 | 
| Zmanu | spect: it ask but don't give to me 0 to 9 only letters | 00:26 | 
| mgedmin | and when adding/editing you can specify all sorts of nifty things like wpa passphrases | 00:27 | 
| mgedmin | 0 to 9? | 00:27 | 
| Fatal | wasabi_: i got a cheap one, uhm.. navibe, no idea how good it is since i haven't tried to compare it with anything else | 00:27 | 
| Zmanu | mgedmin: wifi key don't use only letter but number too, and there's no number | 00:27 | 
| Fatal | FCC ID: SZF-GB621 | 00:27 | 
| wasabi_ | small, rechargeable, good signal? | 00:27 | 
| mgedmin | Zmanu: what do you mean there's no number? sure there are, in the pop-up virtual keyboard | 00:28 | 
| mgedmin | wasabi_: my globalsat bt-308 works, but I think I'd've been better off with the nokia one (ld-3w or something) | 00:28 | 
| Zmanu | in the pop-up i have number but é è and other like this | 00:28 | 
| mgedmin | that one has the same charger as the 770 | 00:29 | 
| wasabi_ | dude, that's super expensive | 00:29 | 
| mgedmin | Zmanu: what language do you use? | 00:29 | 
| wasabi_ | why so pricey? | 00:29 | 
| Zmanu | mgedmin: french | 00:30 | 
| mgedmin | Zmanu: maybe you need to press shift or something on the vkb | 00:31 | 
| Zmanu | ok i gonna try | 00:31 | 
| Zmanu | you're right thanks | 00:37 | 
| Zmanu | bye | 00:38 | 
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| wasabi_ | can't seem to find the ld-3w in the us | 01:07 | 
| jtokash | Would anyone mind checking my backup command? tar czvf /media/mmc1/backups/full/test -C/bin -C/boot -C/etc -C/home -C/initrd -C/lib -C/opt -C/proc -C/root -C/sbin -C/srv -C/sys -C/tmp -C/usr -C/var | 01:35 | 
| mgedmin | it doesn't make any sense | 01:36 | 
| mgedmin | I think tar accepts -C only once | 01:37 | 
| jtokash | ah, for some reason I thought it was supposed to prepend each directory | 01:37 | 
| mgedmin | tar -czvf /media/mmc1/backups/full/test.tar.gz -C/ bin boot etc home initrd lib opt root sbin srv sys tmp usr var | 01:38 | 
| mgedmin | would make more sense | 01:38 | 
| mgedmin | I suggest that you do not try to tar up /proc | 01:38 | 
| mgedmin | and I do not understand why anybody would want to back up /tmp | 01:38 | 
| mgedmin | oh, and skip the /sys, I didn't notice it at first | 01:38 | 
| jtokash | sounds good, I'll leave those off. I already left off /dev and /mnt | 01:39 | 
| wasabi_ | sounds silly. | 01:41 | 
| wasabi_ | Why not just back up your home dir? | 01:41 | 
| jtokash | I just want to have a backup of all installed apps and everything. Set it and forget it. | 01:41 | 
| wasabi_ | i guess. | 01:41 | 
| mgedmin | why not tar up / and tell tar not to traverse into other filesystems? | 01:42 | 
| mgedmin | tar -l (aka --one-file-system) does that | 01:42 | 
| jtokash | oh, nice! | 01:43 | 
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| mgedmin | of course, if, say, /home is on a different filesystem, you'd want to tar it up too | 01:43 | 
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| jtokash | makes sense. Currently, I don't have the extended stuff going on, but maybe later. | 01:43 | 
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| lle | http://rahina.org/sb2/ | 04:51 | 
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| jtokash | I wonder if Herring and Sardine support larger swap files. | 05:23 | 
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| shapr | desrt: d00d | 09:26 | 
| rabelais | is there a true SIP client for the 770? I don't want gtalk, I don't want sipphone's thing, I just want a normal sipphone | 09:28 | 
| rabelais | *normal SIP client | 09:28 | 
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| jtokash | Hmmm.. anyone know of initfs dual boot can be set up for dual booting between 2 mmc file systems rather than 1 flash and 1 mmc? | 10:13 | 
| jtokash | *of=if | 10:14 | 
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:50 | 
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| jtokash | Morning | 11:12 | 
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| jtokash | I crashed when trying to dual boot into herring on mmc2. The blue progress bar is at around 80% done. I don't have sshd installed and I can't figure out how to reboot from this hang. Any ideas? | 12:11 | 
| jtokash | If not, I'll take the battery out. | 12:11 | 
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| desrt | shapr; hello | 12:24 | 
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| AD-N770 | good morning | 13:29 | 
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| * pahartik followed "Alternative 2" instructions (except for only having one partition and ext2 filesystem on it) of document at "http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowTo_BootRootFSFromMMC" but "/dev/mtdblock4" is still "/" after trying to boot from MMC | 15:20 | |
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| AD-N770 | hi ppl | 17:39 | 
| AD-N770 | any hildon developer in the channel ? | 17:39 | 
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| AD-N770 | is someone in the channel that could help me with treeview and a contextual menu issue ? | 17:48 | 
| AD-N770 | i need some help to implement a new feature in the nethack port for maemo | 17:58 | 
| AD-N770 | I implemented a contextual menu on the inventory treeview, is working under sbox, but the menu isn't launched on the device | 17:59 | 
| AD-N770 | please could someone give me some help to fix it ? | 18:00 | 
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| timeless | so does anyone here actaully have a 770 + gmail? | 18:07 | 
| timeless | forgive my typing, pretend i'm drunk from all that egg nog i'm not drinking | 18:09 | 
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| MSchoen | good morning all. | 19:02 | 
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| tigert | timeless: yes. I use gmail with it a lot | 19:15 | 
| timeless | can you use it w/ your 770 (try now)? | 19:52 | 
| timeless | hrm, i think disney is showing peter pan songs in finnish | 19:56 | 
| timeless | because it sounds familiar, but i can't understand a word | 19:56 | 
| timeless | mtv3 | 19:57 | 
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| ivlad | abend' | 20:26 | 
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| tigert | timeless: I can, though it really likes to have mmc swap enabled | 22:06 | 
| tigert | because its quite heavy on javascript | 22:06 | 
| tigert | it loves the extra 64MB | 22:06 | 
| timeless | hrm | 22:06 | 
| timeless | i egt a security error | 22:06 | 
| timeless | it doesn't let me log in at all | 22:06 | 
| timeless | or log out | 22:06 | 
| timeless | or read mail :( | 22:06 | 
| tigert | ah hmm | 22:07 | 
| timeless | what version of the system are you using? | 22:07 | 
| tigert | reboot :) | 22:07 | 
| tigert | I didnt try just now | 22:07 | 
| timeless | um, i think i have... | 22:07 | 
| tigert | could be something different or temporary | 22:07 | 
| timeless | when did you try last? | 22:07 | 
| tigert | a while ago | 22:07 | 
| timeless | it worked for me about a week ago and hasn't since | 22:07 | 
| tigert | on desktop now | 22:07 | 
| tigert | ah | 22:07 | 
| timeless | i mean the 770 | 22:07 | 
| timeless | silly person | 22:07 | 
| timeless | if i was curious about gmail in general, i wouldn't ask her e:) | 22:08 | 
| tigert | lemme see, need to find a charger | 22:08 | 
| * timeless sighs | 22:08 | |
| * timeless coughed up the remants of iguana vegetarian fajitas | 22:08 | |
| timeless | it wasn't spicy as i ate it, but now :( | 22:09 | 
| tigert | I think iguana is not exactly vegetarian ;) | 22:10 | 
| * tigert knows what you meant though :) | 22:10 | |
| timeless | i was pretty sure they'd be open | 22:10 | 
| timeless | the one closest to me wasn't of course, but the main one was :) | 22:10 | 
| timeless | it'll be open again at 2pm tomorrow | 22:11 | 
| tigert | ok lets try | 22:11 | 
| timeless | probably the only food shop that'll be open tomorrow :( | 22:11 | 
| timeless | i'm open to suggestions of course ;-) | 22:11 | 
| tigert | ok loading.. | 22:12 | 
| tigert | the suggestion is: buy stuff in advance before christmas and midsummer and wappu | 22:12 | 
| tigert | gmail loads fine | 22:12 | 
| timeless | hrm | 22:12 | 
| timeless | os ver? | 22:12 | 
| timeless | i'm using 2006.1 (39-[14?]) | 22:13 | 
| tigert | what was scirocco? | 22:13 | 
| tigert | that? | 22:13 | 
| timeless | i'm using the match for the latest official release | 22:13 | 
| timeless | i don't follow the maemo sdk versions | 22:13 | 
| tigert | yeah, same here | 22:13 | 
| tigert | that is what I meant | 22:13 | 
| timeless | too confusing, and no one could explain how to install them anyway | 22:13 | 
| tigert | 2.2006.39-14 as well | 22:14 | 
| tigert | timeless: I am confused as hell and I am an employee | 22:14 | 
| timeless | :) | 22:14 | 
| tigert | I am surprised if anyone can figure out all the versions and their correspondence | 22:14 | 
| tigert | its a fscking mess :) | 22:14 | 
| timeless | my favorite part of course is that some versions are gauranteed to break your system :) | 22:15 | 
| spect | Merry christmas :) | 22:15 | 
| timeless | ok, i just rebooted my device | 22:15 | 
| timeless | spect: as a non christian in finland, it's not a happy time | 22:15 | 
| timeless | if not for iguanna, i could starve | 22:15 | 
| timeless | and the movie theaters are closed in helsinki! | 22:16 | 
| timeless | tigert: i tried loading https://mail.google.com/mail/ | 22:16 | 
| timeless | i get an alert | 22:16 | 
| timeless | i Unablae to complete secure transaction | 22:16 | 
| tigert | OH | 22:16 | 
| tigert | lemme make sure its https | 22:16 | 
| timeless | https://mail.google.com/mail/ | 22:16 | 
| timeless | [ OK ] | 22:16 | 
| tigert | they have this nasty habit of falling back to http | 22:16 | 
| tigert | and I dont like that | 22:16 | 
| timeless | i Unable to complete secure transaction | 22:16 | 
| tigert | though that seems to load too | 22:17 | 
| tigert | waiting.. | 22:17 | 
| tigert | yeah, loads ok | 22:17 | 
| timeless | https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=mail&passive=true&rm=false&continue=http%3A%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fui... | 22:17 | 
| timeless | [ OK ] | 22:17 | 
| timeless | try logging out? :) | 22:17 | 
| timeless | (that was me trying to use http: instead...) | 22:17 | 
| timeless | great | 22:18 | 
| timeless | now google.com doesn't know who i am, and i can't sign in | 22:18 | 
| * timeless killed all cookies | 22:18 | |
| timeless | this is going to suck royally | 22:19 | 
| timeless | i might have to go into the office on christmas and test | 22:19 | 
| timeless | still works? | 22:30 | 
| tigert | yea, it works ok | 22:31 | 
| tigert | reflash yours? | 22:31 | 
| tigert | hmm | 22:32 | 
| tigert | I logged in via http | 22:32 | 
| tigert | then switched the url to https manually | 22:32 | 
| tigert | (usually works without relogin) | 22:32 | 
| tigert | but I have seen that problem sometime | 22:32 | 
| tigert | bugzilla might have something | 22:32 | 
| tigert | but I dont remember and I try to avoid work for the next week ahead :) | 22:33 | 
| timeless | i can't find any path to log in | 22:35 | 
| timeless | it'd be funny if it turns out i deleted a cert i need :) | 22:36 | 
| * timeless backs up | 22:39 | |
| * timeless grumbles | 22:39 | |
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| timeless | um | 23:23 | 
| timeless | has anyone noticed that the date picker is broken? | 23:24 | 
| timeless | oh fsck | 23:29 | 
| timeless | so um | 23:29 | 
| timeless | backing up the device doesn't save all the apps i installed | 23:29 | 
| timeless | so i lost maemo mapper | 23:29 | 
| timeless | and the other dozen apps | 23:29 | 
| guru3 | yeah that bit's a pain | 23:30 | 
| * timeless grumbles | 23:34 | |
| timeless | does it at least back up my "settings" | 23:35 | 
| timeless | i did tell it to back up "settings" and "documents" | 23:35 | 
| timeless | nope | 23:35 | 
| timeless | that's nice | 23:35 | 
| * timeless needs to look into altroot support | 23:50 | |
| * timeless hates debian packages | 23:50 | |
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