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| Tak | ugh, is there a way to just write buffered data to a gst sink? | 00:19 |
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| Tak | ugh - what's the byte order for arm? | 03:40 |
| Tak | is it really something like big-endian word, little-endian byte? | 03:41 |
| nomis | Tak: endianess does not make a lot of sense when talking about an individual byte. | 03:44 |
| nomis | Tak: and ARM CPUs can be switched in their endianess. | 03:44 |
| Tak | so, what about the 770's default order | 03:46 |
| Tak | I'm wondering if this macro for determining the byte order isn't hosed | 03:46 |
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| nomis | Tak: they switched from big endian to little endian in IT2006 IIRC. | 03:54 |
| nomis | Tak: do you use the glib macros? | 03:55 |
| Robot101 | EABI doesn't switch the endian-ness | 03:59 |
| nomis | Robot101: oh? | 04:00 |
| nomis | Robot101: I was under the impression that the "el" in _armel means little endian. | 04:01 |
| Tak | eh, it's using a custom macro | 04:02 |
| Robot101 | yes, but it was necessary to change the arch name because EABI breaks compatibility | 04:02 |
| Robot101 | so they just detailed the endianness, which is usually little, and did used to be anyway :D | 04:02 |
| Robot101 | (ARMs are rarely put into big endian mode, especially in handhelds) | 04:03 |
| nomis | ok, thanks. | 04:05 |
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| Robot101 | big endian would be armbe if it existed | 04:07 |
| Robot101 | but didn't surface in debian as yet | 04:07 |
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| Tak | hmm, I keep getting "GLIB CRITICAL ** default - gst_capsfilter_prepare_buf: assertion `out_caps != NULL' failed" | 05:23 |
| Tak | but I'm explicitly defining and using a GstCaps | 05:23 |
| Tak | aha | 05:25 |
| Tak | it doesn't support this low a samplerate | 05:25 |
| Tak | hmm - gstreamer output doesn't help either | 05:34 |
| Tak | in fact, I think it's worse than esd | 05:34 |
| Tak | hmm, does maemo gstreamer not have GstQueue? | 05:50 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:52 |
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| tigert | morn | 12:38 |
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| inz | mrn | 12:45 |
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| sxpert-work | man, the source to maemo mapper is horrible ! | 13:45 |
| sxpert-work | it's all contained in one *huge* file !! | 13:47 |
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| florian_kc | hi all | 14:12 |
| ferenc | hello florian | 14:13 |
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| ssvb | hello ferenc, I have some minor issue with garage, I can't find how to reset mailing list admin password (mplayer commits mailing list) | 14:29 |
| ferenc | ssvb: do you have the orgiginal password? | 14:33 |
| ferenc | ssvb: if not, then i reset the pwd and you will get an email from mailman | 14:34 |
| ssvb | no, think I never got notification for it, resetting it would be ok, thanks | 14:35 |
| ferenc | ssvb: will do it, just a sec | 14:36 |
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| ssvb | thanks a lot, got it, by the way, is it possible to configure commit notifications mailing lists to automatically accept commit messages (they are pending approval now)? | 14:41 |
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| ferenc | ssvb: yes, i belive you can tune it in the admin interface | 14:42 |
| k-s[WORK] | ferenc: at least tracker messages you cannot :-( | 14:42 |
| ssvb | so that they are automatically approved for the e-mail addresses of the developers of the project and discarded for any other address? | 14:42 |
| k-s[WORK] | ferenc: even if you state "Always approve messages of this user" | 14:43 |
| k-s[WORK] | ferenc: you still get annoying pending messages because "implicit destination" | 14:43 |
| k-s[WORK] | ferenc: this is due "To: noreply@..." | 14:43 |
| ssvb | ferenc, i'll try to configure it, but I think some default setup on mailing list creation with reasonable settings would make life for project admins a bit easier :) | 14:44 |
| ferenc | there are different ways how mails sent from garage. the svn commit messages and the Trackers messages are sent by different "engines". | 14:45 |
| ferenc | but let's fix it :) | 14:46 |
| k-s[WORK] | ferenc: thanks! :-) | 14:46 |
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| ferenc | k-s[WORK]: could you please forward me an email you got from garage? | 14:57 |
| k-s[WORK] | ferenc: ok | 14:57 |
| k-s[WORK] | ferenc: you got mail @maemo.org | 14:58 |
| ferenc | k-s[WORK]: thx | 14:58 |
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| Jaffa | florian_kc: any advice on GPE Calendar rebuilding? http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=26545#post26545 | 15:28 |
| |tbb| | hi jaffa, could u tell me why i encode a 4,4 mb flv file from youtube with your script -p best and the result is i get a 12mb file? | 15:30 |
| florian_kc | Jaffa: Use these: http://linuxtogo.org/~florian/gpe-sources-maemo/ | 15:31 |
| florian_kc | Jaffa: That should include the OS2006 rules and dependency files. | 15:32 |
| florian_kc | Jaffa: you need to have devel stuff for libgpewidget, libhandoff, libmimedir, libschedule, libeventdb, libgpevtype and libgpepimc installed. | 15:34 |
| florian_kc | (should be a valid order) | 15:34 |
| ssvb | |tbb|: that's probably because original flv file had a lot lower bitrate than the bitrate that is used in 'best' preset | 15:36 |
| |tbb| | so what to do then? | 15:38 |
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| Jaffa | Choose/create a lower quality preset? "best" is probably way too high for YouTube videos. | 15:38 |
| Jaffa | |tbb|: (as you've seen) | 15:38 |
| Jaffa | florian_kc: thanks | 15:38 |
| florian_kc | Jaffa: yw | 15:39 |
| * Jaffa pastes it into the thread, in the hope that someone else will make the applet smaller ;-) | 15:41 | |
| |tbb| | jaffa i was using it without the option -p and the quality was poor | 15:46 |
| koen | florian_kc: gpe-calendar has a 0.73 release? | 15:48 |
| ssvb | |tbb| that's lossy compression, original quality is already bad, if you recompress it with with low quality, it will result in even higher quality loss, using 'best' preset allows to keep video closer to original bad quality | 15:49 |
| florian_kc | koen: grrr | 15:49 |
| florian_kc | ;) | 15:49 |
| koen | florian_kc: what will happen if I add recipes using those tarballs to OE? | 15:49 |
| florian_kc | koen: nothing... its just svn trunk + maemo deb stuff | 15:51 |
| florian_kc | koen: i'll work on this issue as soon as i have a free minute | 15:52 |
| koen | florian_kc: in terms of versioning hell when the powers that be decide to do actual releases of the gpe stuff | 15:52 |
| ssvb | |tbb| i mean 'best' preset uses extra bits to encode original video and *original artefacts*, that explains file size increase | 15:52 |
| |tbb| | so i have to find it out by myself for each vid, which preset is the best ? | 15:54 |
| Jaffa | |tbb|: if you do `-p list' and look at the top of the code, you'll see the various presets. | 15:54 |
| Jaffa | "average" or "good" might be better for you. ALternatively you might want a custom one. | 15:54 |
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| Jaffa | |tbb|: "best" will always result in a video which is closest to the original source. | 15:54 |
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| Jaffa | |tbb|: However there's no intelligence (and there's no enough information to make it so), such that if the video is very crappy quality to begin with, that very crap quality will be encoded very accurately under "best". | 15:55 |
| |tbb| | thx | 15:56 |
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| ssvb | |tbb| alternatively you can consider to try watching such flv files without transcoding by using mplayer on n770 :) | 16:10 |
| inz | Jaffa, mplayer -identify will tell something about the original, like average bitrate... | 16:13 |
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| |tbb| | i have a small problem there, if i run mplayer blabla.flv i became an error Mlayer killed ;/ | 16:59 |
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| ssvb | |tbb| what version of mplayer are you using? is it 1.0rc1 based? | 17:00 |
| ssvb | 1.0pre8 had problems with some flv files | 17:01 |
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| Jaffa | inz: true - I suppose I could do something with the bitrate combined with the resolution to work out if the preset's bitrate is going to encode more info than is present in the original | 17:13 |
| |tbb| | it is pre8 | 17:14 |
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| ssvb | |tbb| you can try to upgrade it to mplayer_1.0rc1-maemo.2 to check if it works better (it should) | 17:24 |
| ssvb | this is a stable version and is expected to be available in garage repository soon | 17:26 |
| |tbb| | apt-get upgrade? | 17:26 |
| ssvb | not sure if it is uploaded to repository yet, anyway you can install it from .deb file | 17:29 |
| ferenc | mplayer_1.0rc1 is not yet in extras. there was a problem with the source upload. | 17:30 |
| ferenc | i asked Ed to re-upload the stuff. | 17:30 |
| Tak | how does one do a source upload to the extras repo? | 17:31 |
| Tak | mine only took the binaries afaict | 17:31 |
| ferenc | Tak: it is not possible to do a source only upload. | 17:31 |
| |tbb| | there is a mplayer_1.0rc1-maemo.3 available | 17:32 |
| ferenc | You need a .changes or a .dsc file | 17:32 |
| |tbb| | there is a mplayer_1.0rc1-maemo.3 available | 17:32 |
| |tbb| | there is a mplayer_1.0rc1-maemo.3 available | 17:32 |
| ferenc | tbb: you are right. only the source is missing. | 17:32 |
| |tbb| | there is a mplayer_1.0rc1-maemo.3 available | 17:32 |
| |tbb| | sorry for tripple posting | 17:32 |
| Tak | I don't want source-only, I just wanted to upload the source along with my binaries | 17:33 |
| Tak | so people could deb-src it if so inclined | 17:33 |
| ferenc | Tak: it should be possible even today. Though i noticed that some sources were not put to the archive. I wish somebody does a new upload and I could take a look again. | 17:34 |
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| ssvb | mplayer_1.0rc1-maemo.3 is a bit experimental, it contains additional framebuffer based video output code for hardware YUV colorspace support (as additional -vo nokia770 option), it should not cause any problems though | 17:35 |
| ssvb | ferenc, currently mplayer contains only a patch against upstream package in garage downloads, full source tarball is a bit too large for garage file size limits | 17:37 |
| ssvb | can it be a problem? | 17:37 |
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| ferenc | ssvb: not for the extras repo. it should not be a problem to upload the original tar ball as well. | 17:43 |
| ferenc | our queue-manager checks what is in the .dsc file | 17:44 |
| ferenc | mplayer_1.0rc1.orig.tar.gz was given there but was missing from the upload | 17:44 |
| ferenc | if you dont want to upload the orig tar ball then remove it from the .dsc. | 17:44 |
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| ssvb | ferenc: ok then, Ed should solve it | 17:46 |
| Tak | the orig tarball doesn't get put into the .changes by default, was my problem | 17:46 |
| ssvb | anyway all the maemo mplayer releases are tagged in SVN, so it is easy to recover and build any version | 17:46 |
| ferenc | ssvb: yes, he will. | 17:46 |
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| ferenc | ssvb: that's cool. tagging is great and it is nice that you keep doing that. | 17:47 |
| ssvb | by the way, I noticed a decrease in total mplayer downloads counter after deleting some old releases | 17:47 |
| ferenc | ssvb: really? strange gforge behaviour... | 17:47 |
| ssvb | what is the policy for outdated releases at garage? i just thought that it might be a good idea to clean up some space | 17:48 |
| ferenc | ssvb: there is no written policy about that. we will start warning projects if running out of disk space :) | 17:49 |
| ferenc | ssvb: but again, it is nice if you take care for that as well. | 17:49 |
| ferenc | keeping in mind that garage is a shared environment would benefit the whole community | 17:49 |
| ssvb | i suppose that every downloaded package has a counter assigned to it, the sum of all these counters probably results in a total counter even if some of them are marked as 'hidden' | 17:50 |
| ssvb | but if you delete a package, the counter goes down | 17:50 |
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| ssvb | this gforge behaviour does not encourage deleting old stale releases :) | 17:51 |
| koen | I think you need to keep the tarballs somewhere | 17:52 |
| koen | since an svn tag isn't the same as 'make dist' | 17:52 |
| koen | I bet the FSF will throw a fit if you would argue otherwise | 17:52 |
| ferenc | btw. the garage dl figures are far from reality. you probably noticed it already :) | 17:53 |
| Tak | as long as the output of `make dist` is generatable from the svn in a straightforward manner(./autogen.sh), it should be fine | 17:53 |
| ferenc | bbl | 17:53 |
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| Devesh | quite silent in here :) | 20:03 |
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| kaatis | Devesh, ferenc, hello there | 20:08 |
| Devesh | Hi ferenc | 20:10 |
| Devesh | Hello kaatis | 20:11 |
| ferenc | hello | 20:11 |
| Devesh | janne there was this status bar applet to switch between usbnet and mmc, is it in maemo repo? | 20:17 |
| kaatis | Devesh, it's in package maemo-dm in 2.0 and 2.1 iirc | 20:18 |
| kaatis | it also depends on a bunch of other stuff | 20:18 |
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| Devesh | i give it a shot;) | 20:29 |
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