| koen | the latest one seems to fix that | 00:00 |
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| koen | and now you're supposed to say "but I'm already using that" ;) | 00:00 |
| maddler | hehehe... right... :) | 00:02 |
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| maddler | unless something came out in the last three days... | 00:03 |
| snorkelyd | www.cnn.com | 00:03 |
| Tak | uhh | 00:05 |
| maddler | hehe | 00:06 |
| Tak | www.google.com ? | 00:06 |
| maddler | same... :D | 00:08 |
| maddler | btw... mapper is crashing when trying to download maps... :| | 00:08 |
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| maddler | doh | 00:21 |
| maddler | ! | 00:21 |
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| maddler | no way... | 00:27 |
| maddler | it segfaults! | 00:27 |
| maddler | could you please paste URIs again? | 00:28 |
| maddler | please... | 00:28 |
| koen | http://kh.google.com/kh?n=404&v=11&t=tqss http://mt.google.com/mt?n=404&v=w2.25&x=0&y=4&zoom=14 | 00:28 |
| maddler | thx... | 00:29 |
| maddler | ls -ltr | 00:29 |
| maddler | wops... | 00:30 |
| maddler | :) | 00:30 |
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| maddler | koen: it's working!!!! | 00:36 |
| maddler | it was %d instead of %s ;) | 00:36 |
| koen | ah, right :) | 00:36 |
| maddler | hehe... | 00:36 |
| koen | %s is for the satelite maps | 00:36 |
| maddler | trying it now... | 00:36 |
| maddler | something wrong with sat URI | 00:38 |
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| Fenix-Dark | anything i can do to speed up mplayer? | 00:47 |
| Fenix-Dark | watching naruto on my 770 runs at a solid 8-10 fps | 00:47 |
| part | encode to a lower resolution or something | 00:49 |
| Tak | implement codec optimizations for arm? | 00:50 |
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| Fenix-Dark | Tak, sounds good, but too much of a hassle | 00:51 |
| Fenix-Dark | part, what res/encoding do you suggest? | 00:51 |
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| Fenix-Dark | btw is mplayer more optimized than the regular video player on the 770? | 00:52 |
| Fenix-Dark | lol too bad we can't overclock the 770 | 00:53 |
| ssvb | Fenix-Dark: what resolution/bitrate is used? | 00:54 |
| Fenix-Dark | 640x480 | 00:54 |
| Fenix-Dark | it uses xvid codec too | 00:55 |
| ssvb | i see, it is quite a good result by the way | 00:55 |
| Fenix-Dark | not sure about the video bitrate though | 00:55 |
| maddler | not sure... but IIRC there should be something on maemo.org's wiki... | 00:55 |
| ssvb | i think after making use of hardware colorspace conversion, results will be much better | 00:55 |
| Fenix-Dark | ssvb, could you repeat that in english please | 00:56 |
| ssvb | i'm sorry, i can't that's the only language i know :( | 00:56 |
| Fenix-Dark | heh | 00:56 |
| Tak | does the 770 support that? | 00:57 |
| ssvb | i mean that mplayer performs RGB->YUV conversion using arm core | 00:57 |
| Fenix-Dark | ok | 00:57 |
| ssvb | so displaying video takes quite a lot of resources and it has to skip a lot of frames | 00:57 |
| Fenix-Dark | ya | 00:58 |
| Fenix-Dark | i can reencode my videos, but its just another hassle, eh i guess its worth it | 00:58 |
| ssvb | on the other hand, decoding video seems to be fast enough, that's very good | 00:58 |
| Fenix-Dark | ssvb, if there's any action in the video (at that bitrate/res/etc) its not very enjoyable, but converstaion is fine | 00:59 |
| ssvb | nokia 770 videocontroller supports YUV colorspace, but we need to make mplayer output module for omap framebuffer, also it will require mplayer to be run as root | 01:00 |
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| Tak | eek | 01:01 |
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| Fenix-Dark | ssvb, so that means that the only way to run it like that will require using the terminal with root access | 01:01 |
| Fenix-Dark | what a bummer | 01:01 |
| ssvb | Fenix-Dark: well, it confirms my test results then, mplayer is able to decode 640x480 video at about 700kbps, but it takes about 100% cpu resources | 01:02 |
| ssvb | and on action scenes it does not behave well | 01:02 |
| Fenix-Dark | yea | 01:03 |
| Tak | nah, mplayer could just be suid root | 01:03 |
| ssvb | Fenix-Dark: it can be run as suid root | 01:03 |
| Fenix-Dark | ok | 01:03 |
| Fenix-Dark | for now it seems that the best option is to re-encode the videos i want to play on the 770 | 01:03 |
| ssvb | but i don't quite like this idea, mplayer is quite a big piece of code and can contain bugs and security holes | 01:04 |
| Fenix-Dark | it would be nice to torrent the latest episodes and run it straight off the 770, but i can survive without doing that | 01:04 |
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| Fenix-Dark | ssvb, yea, its bound to be big because of all the codecs it supports | 01:04 |
| Tak | no way to give user perms to the framebuffer? | 01:05 |
| ssvb | Tak: maybe it is possible, i did not try it yet | 01:05 |
| * Tak shrugs | 01:05 | |
| Tak | anyone have any luck using esddsp? | 01:05 |
| ssvb | do you mean esd daemon? | 01:06 |
| Fenix-Dark | have either of you tested out the voip function of the 770? | 01:06 |
| Tak | no, I mean the esd <-> oss translation layer | 01:06 |
| Tak | so that apps that expect oss get routed through esd | 01:07 |
| ssvb | Fenix-Dark: google talk works fine on 770 | 01:09 |
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| ssvb | Tak: native alsa support on 770 would be good to have, i don't like esd either | 01:12 |
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| ssvb | Fenix-Dark: you can read about regular video player capabilities here: https://maemo.org/maemowiki/VideoEncoding | 01:17 |
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| ssvb | Fenix-Dark: support for 640x480 video on 250MHz cpu is quite a challenging task | 01:18 |
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| ssvb | there is still a hope for mplayer to support such video resolution after some more optimizations, but don't expect too much :) | 01:21 |
| shapr | Why does maemo use esd? Is it because the sound hardware in the 770 can't mix by itself? | 01:22 |
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| ssvb | shapr: here is an interesting link http://maemo.org/platform/docs/multimedia/multimedia_architecture.html | 01:23 |
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| shapr | spiffy, esd is going away, alsa is the replacement. | 01:29 |
| shapr | ssvb: I enjoyed your post about ARM flavors on internettablettalk | 01:30 |
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| Fenix-Dark | ssvb, ok. thanks, you've been very helpful | 01:36 |
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| littlefae | Hi peeps | 01:49 |
| littlefae | Anyone familiar with the Tableteer Streamer application? | 01:50 |
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| rev | in what way? | 01:57 |
| littlefae | In the sense that I am trying to figure out, is there is an application I have, or can get, to make use of it. | 01:58 |
| littlefae | Does VLC act as a suitable server? | 01:58 |
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| shapr | aw, he left | 02:47 |
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| gnuite__ | man, I wish we had curl 7.16.0 - I could really use that multi pipelining... | 03:49 |
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| jza | hi | 04:01 |
| jza | can I get support for N770 | 04:01 |
| jza | my n770 is very slow, I have a 512 memory card | 04:02 |
| jza | someone told me that performance improve once I create a swap partiton within that mc | 04:02 |
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| Tak | hmm, so trying to run advancewars causes restart for me too | 07:55 |
| Tak | is there anything on the n770 that handles zip files natively? | 07:57 |
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| Tak | hah - zelda runs...barely | 09:39 |
| * Tak waits for the triforce to spin onto the screen | 09:47 | |
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| tigert | garr | 10:13 |
| tigert | tak, someone compiled the commandline zip tool for the device | 10:14 |
| inz | yarr | 10:16 |
| inz | tigert, how's maemo-blog icon coming ;P | 10:16 |
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| Tak | tigert: yeah, I found - was without wifi when I asked, though :-/ | 10:21 |
| Tak | success! ...ish | 10:25 |
| inz | 1. wifi... 2. ???... 3. success! | 10:26 |
| spaetz_ | it seems that no Nokian wants to talk about oss_media_server for some reason. But can somebody explain how it usees gconf keys to determine the gstreamer plugins to use? | 10:31 |
| tigert | inz: icon metaphor is in the thinking bin | 10:31 |
| spaetz_ | t makes me angry that it works on the command line but stops with an error dialog in the music player | 10:32 |
| tigert | spaetz_: darn. I wish it wanst so hard to irc from the office :P | 10:32 |
| Tak | 1) wifi 2) discover that the rom you were trying to use is for the wrong system 3) fix actual problem 4) success! | 10:32 |
| tigert | spaetz_: did you mail the devel list? | 10:33 |
| spaetz_ | tigert, I mailed to dev that it works on the command line but not with the music player | 10:33 |
| spaetz_ | but according to the howto make multimedia plugins it should work | 10:33 |
| spaetz_ | I've talked to at least three people now who ran in the same deadend | 10:34 |
| spaetz_ | which is quite frustrating | 10:34 |
| spaetz_ | as IT WORKS ON THE COMMAND LINE with gst plugins. dammit :-( | 10:34 |
| tigert | spaetz_: raise the issue in the list again if there is no response. I think Tommi's "unresolved" list is working nicely | 10:34 |
| tigert | hopefyully we can work it out | 10:34 |
| spaetz_ | tigert, I will. Thanks for the tip | 10:34 |
| tigert | people should be forced to irc :) | 10:34 |
| tigert | its where the community is (here! :)) | 10:35 |
| Tak | agreed | 10:35 |
| tigert | we're trying to solve that too, but it is slow, as it needs hardware etc | 10:35 |
| tigert | since the fireall is such a fascist one | 10:35 |
| tigert | a maemo shell/irc server would be nice, | 10:36 |
| spaetz_ | tigert, I can offer Nokia a port redirection if that helps you :-) | 10:36 |
| Tak | have you tried 7000 or 8001 ? | 10:37 |
| tigert | well | 10:38 |
| tigert | anything that goes out, has to go through the http proxy | 10:38 |
| tigert | everything else appears blocked | 10:38 |
| Tak | ow | 10:39 |
| Tak | why so draconian? | 10:39 |
| tigert | not all of nokia is about open things :) | 10:39 |
| tigert | and the network is huge | 10:39 |
| tigert | I'd be like that too if I was the admin | 10:39 |
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| tigert | but of course stuff can be worked out with the proxy, but the thing is | 10:41 |
| tigert | it should be something provided by the company since we do care about the community | 10:41 |
| tigert | not something every interested workedr should run at home | 10:41 |
| Tak | yeah | 10:42 |
| tigert | ideal thing would be to tutor new hires to #maemo just like they are taught to use bugzilla and mailing lists | 10:42 |
| tigert | but hopefully we get there | 10:43 |
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| spaetz_ | mail to maemo-dev send | 10:58 |
| spaetz_ | We'll see if somebody answers. It's a bit tricky to debug that undocumented application. | 10:59 |
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| obergix[work] | hi | 11:29 |
| spaetz_ | That internettablettalk.comsite is not too nice. Does it also not load currently for you guys? | 11:46 |
| spaetz_ | Also it looks a bit orphaned. | 11:46 |
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| tigert | orphaned? | 11:57 |
| tigert | hmm. lots of fog in tampere | 11:57 |
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| netmask | hello | 12:48 |
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| tigert | hi 255.255.255.0 | 13:43 |
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| jait | how do you know he's /24? | 13:50 |
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| tigert | :) | 13:55 |
| tigert | guess | 13:55 |
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| lardman | Has anyone got any figures on DSP code load times? I was thinking of producing some oct files (Octave extensions) which use the DSP and was wondering whether to make individual DSP programs or a monolithic one | 14:06 |
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| etrunko | timeless: you need a slash after mistral in minimo line | 14:17 |
| etrunko | timeless: should be mistral/ instead of mistral | 14:18 |
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| rev | dar! | 20:08 |
| Tak | win! | 20:08 |
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| shapr | Hey | 21:10 |
| shapr | I bought my 770 in Sweden, but I moved to the US. | 21:10 |
| shapr | Does the AC-4U US Mains adaptor work for the 770? | 21:10 |
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| shapr | I think the AC-4 will work, yay! | 21:48 |
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| netmask | hello | 21:56 |
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| shapr | hi | 22:07 |
| shapr | quiet today | 22:07 |
| Tak | indeed | 22:07 |
| shapr | I nearly bought a BH-501 headset. | 22:07 |
| shapr | But I don't know the status of btsco or stereo bluetooth music support in Maemo. | 22:08 |
| shapr | Does anyone else know? | 22:08 |
| Jaffa | Zip. Nada. Squat (AFAIK) | 22:17 |
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| keesj | oops , kill -9 -1 worked better then expected in scratchbox | 22:40 |
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