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littlefae | Someone here, dunno who, I owe a favour to. :) | 02:33 |
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littlefae | So, if you're the one who did the port of tinyfugue, I thank you, from the bottom of my heart! :D I now have a telnet and MUSH client, making my 770 perfect. :D | 02:34 |
Tak | I just rebuilt the deb in scratchbox | 02:45 |
Tak | no big deal | 02:45 |
littlefae | Well I thank you all the same. :) | 02:53 |
littlefae | Seems to respect all the original settings I normally use, so I'd say its perfect. :) Perhaps Ken Keys would add it as a potential fork, for future upgrades, if you mail him? :) | 02:54 |
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Tak | weird - my zoom in key just got stuck down | 04:28 |
Tak | and no amount of pushing zoom out (or other keys) would fix it | 04:31 |
Tak | well, except the power key ;-) | 04:31 |
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rev | weird, tak, weird | 05:07 |
Tak | no kidding | 05:14 |
Tak | seems fine after a reboot | 05:14 |
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rev | anyone know of a GBA emulator for the 770? | 05:53 |
Tak | gba's a little more hp than a nes, right? | 06:04 |
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rev | tak: a GBA is about the same power as an SNES | 06:51 |
rev | Tak: it's an ARM-based device too | 06:51 |
Tak | hm | 06:52 |
Tak | won't be as easy as a rebuild of a c app, then ;-) | 06:52 |
rev | well | 06:52 |
rev | why wouldn't it be? | 06:52 |
rev | most of the emulators i've used are pretty portable, written in straight C | 06:53 |
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Tak | right, but I think an snes emu in c would be too slow on an n770 | 06:53 |
Tak | fce ultra (nes) only runs with a little frame skipping | 06:53 |
rev | ah | 06:53 |
rev | i've not tried any emulator on my nokia | 06:54 |
rev | i've used a GBA and aNES emulator on my axim, but that has a 624 mhz cpu | 06:54 |
rev | frankly, for the game i want to play it could play at half speed and thatwould be fine | 06:54 |
rev | looks like someone ported it to the zaurus, and it is very slow on the zaurus from what i'm reading | 06:55 |
rev | oh well | 06:55 |
rev | not that i expected much more | 06:55 |
rev | but it would've been nice | 06:55 |
Tak | somebody on ITT was talking about snes/genesis emulators in pure arm asm, but I doubt anything's going to come of it | 06:56 |
rev | yeah | 06:56 |
rev | probably not :P | 06:57 |
Tak | I'll look at a gba emu in case you want to try anyway | 06:57 |
rev | that'd be awesome! | 06:58 |
rev | even if ti was super slow it'd be of use to me | 06:58 |
rev | i'm going to be playing a turn-based game, not a platformer... it can be slow as molasses and i'd be happy | 06:58 |
rev | lookslike the existing emulator- Visual Boy Advance- uses SDL | 06:59 |
rev | d'oh | 07:00 |
rev | gotta run tak | 07:00 |
rev | but thanks! | 07:00 |
rev | peace | 07:00 |
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tigert | morning | 07:57 |
roope | Canola looks interesting. | 08:16 |
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tigert | canola? | 08:28 |
tigert | morning btwq | 08:28 |
tigert | ah that one | 08:31 |
tigert | on planet | 08:31 |
tigert | toijala | 08:32 |
roope | there's a video on youtube. | 08:35 |
tigert | ok | 08:36 |
tigert | I dont think I want to tty it on gprs now but maybe later in the office | 08:36 |
tigert | it looked interesting yeah | 08:36 |
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tanthalas | Hi, I'm having some trouble installing different versions of tar and gzip onto my maemo device (it's a Nokia 770) ... in my /bin right now are two binaries, tar-1.13 and gzip, but when I try to run them, I get an error saying "not found" | 10:29 |
tanthalas | here's the results of my attempts: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Po5nCE81.html | 10:31 |
veli | that usually happens if the runtime-linker cannot be found.. | 10:32 |
veli | where did you get those binaries? | 10:32 |
tanthalas | I'm trying to follow instructions from this site | 10:32 |
tanthalas | http://vidar.gimp.org/armedslack-packages-on-the-nokia-770/ | 10:32 |
tanthalas | so the binaries are from the armedslack server | 10:33 |
koen | afaik armedslack isn't EABI | 10:33 |
vidar | tanthalas: hey. i just replied to your comment. :) | 10:33 |
vidar | the armedslack binaries won't run under the 2006 images. :/ | 10:33 |
tanthalas | oh, hi vidar, great | 10:34 |
tanthalas | i see | 10:34 |
* vidar should put an obsoletion warning on that page... | 10:34 | |
tanthalas | interesting ... so has anyone here managed to successfully run scratchbox through sbrsh ? | 10:34 |
koen | I have, but not using the 770 | 10:34 |
tanthalas | (because that requires setting up an nfs client on the device) | 10:34 |
timeless | who wrote that? | 10:35 |
tanthalas | i suppose the more direct question would be if anyone has successfully gotten nfs to work on the 770 ever since the 2006 os | 10:35 |
timeless | because (there packages are under "n", by the way) should probably say "these" | 10:35 |
tanthalas | thanks for the quick response though, vidar | 10:35 |
vidar | no prob. sorry i couldn't be more helpful. | 10:36 |
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timeless | ah, so vidar, that's for you to fix if you treat blog entries as mutable :) | 10:38 |
tanthalas | http://ufo2000.sourceforge.net/ | 10:38 |
tanthalas | er | 10:38 |
tanthalas | oops | 10:38 |
tanthalas | (but as a sidenote it's interesting to see some people get that game working on the 770) | 10:40 |
Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:41 |
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koen | gah | 11:02 |
koen | allegro insist on running generated binaries during its build | 11:02 |
Jaffa | eugh | 11:02 |
koen | | obj/unix/asmdef: obj/unix/asmdef: cannot execute binary file | 11:02 |
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_follower_ | on a scale of 0-10 how stupid would i be to try and use crosstool to create a toolchain to enable me to build maemo things on OS X? | 11:04 |
koen | _follower_: you need more patches than crosstool provides | 11:05 |
koen | _follower_: and iirc crosstool doesn't support CSL toolchains (which maemo uses) | 11:06 |
_follower_ | koen: thanks, so, maybe a 9? :-) do they exist? or would I have to create them? | 11:06 |
_follower_ | CSL? | 11:06 |
koen | CodeSourceryLabs | 11:06 |
_follower_ | ah, thanks. | 11:07 |
koen | I did have an EABI toolchain on osx a while back, but that was using glibc 2.5 and gcc 4.1.1, so it won't work on maemo | 11:07 |
_follower_ | ah... :-( | 11:08 |
_follower_ | i | 11:08 |
_follower_ | i've been able to get a barely runnable Ubuntu Live CD running on QEmu so i've been wondering what my best option is in terms of trying to do some development on my mac... i wonder if i'm better to try to get scratch box running on os x, crosstool on os x or just try for some sort of minimal install of stuff to enable scratch box to run on a qemu setup on os x... any suggestions? | 11:10 |
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ssvb | koen: allegro builds fine in scratchbox, but you need to use SVN version or 4.2.1 once it gets released | 11:15 |
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koen | ssvb: 4.2.1 doesn't try to run generated binaries? | 11:19 |
ssvb | koen: i'm not sure, but i did not have any problems with building it, by the way 'asmdef' seems suspicious, if you want to use allegro on arm, you don't need asm | 11:21 |
koen | ssvb: I'm using a crosscompiler, not scratchbox | 11:21 |
ssvb | koen: i mean it does not have any arm specific asm code yet | 11:21 |
ssvb | try different configure options, maybe '--disable-asm' may help | 11:22 |
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ssvb | koen: what is the reason for not using scratchbox? are you trying to build it for other devices too? | 11:25 |
koen | ssvb: yes | 11:25 |
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AD-N770 | good morning | 11:51 |
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timeless | yes | 11:54 |
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florian_kc | good morning | 12:15 |
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Jaffa | lo florian_kc | 12:23 |
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tigert | lo | 12:25 |
tigert | quick poll everyone: what is the reason the 770 is interesting to you? | 12:25 |
tigert | I know "linux" and "hackability" already :) | 12:25 |
tigert | but those of you who use it a lot, what is the most useful thing? | 12:26 |
koen | tigert: maemo-mapper | 12:26 |
_follower_ | it's smaller than a laptop... | 12:27 |
koen | tigert: opera is evil, so I don't use it | 12:27 |
koen | tigert: and since the addressbook crashes everytime I want to import a vcard, I don't use that either | 12:27 |
_follower_ | (downside: it's still bigger than a smartphone) | 12:27 |
tigert | :) | 12:28 |
_follower_ | not entirely related, but I was thinking the other day about what it could be used for when it's "obsolete" e.g. cheap and "discarded". i think it has great potential as an obsolete platform--I just have to wait for it to get there. :-) | 12:29 |
_follower_ | tigert: what's the motivation for the question? | 12:29 |
glass | tigert: web browsing is the reason | 12:30 |
glass | well | 12:30 |
glass | i sometimes seem to use it on the road for streaming shoutcast radios | 12:30 |
glass | if my ipod runs out of juice | 12:30 |
tigert | _follower_: :) | 12:32 |
X-Fade | tigert: For me it is mainly webbrowsing and voice calls over gtalk. Remote managing of servers over ssh if I'm on the road. | 12:46 |
tigert | yea | 12:46 |
tigert | glass: web browsing on the go? | 12:47 |
Jaffa | One thing I've realised is it's more read-only than I thought it would be (for my use cases), so the thoughts you've already had tigert about extending it into an offline syncing tool for email, blogging etc. meets my needs (especially since the reception on the West Coast Main Line at 100-odd MPH from London to Rugby is patchy at best) | 12:47 |
tigert | glass: or why is it better than a laptop? | 12:47 |
Jaffa | It's cheaper and more portable. | 12:47 |
glass | tigert: using a laptop in a bus sucks | 12:47 |
tigert | yea | 12:47 |
tigert | Jaffa: yea, this whole "web 2" idea is to be both viewer and producer of stuff | 12:47 |
tigert | and the production part needs more work | 12:48 |
tigert | like on flickr the opera gives javascript errors on most intereting things | 12:48 |
tigert | like when you try to add tags or push photos to groups | 12:48 |
glass | tigert: also it's a lot cheaper than a laptop, a lot smaller too | 12:48 |
X-Fade | tigert: I still thinkg that input is the main problem. What ever you use, it isn't as fast as a keyboard. | 12:48 |
tigert | X-Fade: I have learned to like the thumb keyboard quite a lot | 12:49 |
glass | matters less if i lose it than my lappy | 12:49 |
tigert | its the best compromise so far | 12:49 |
tigert | and I wouldnt want to use a usb keyboard, too much stuff to carry around | 12:49 |
X-Fade | tigert: Yep it is. | 12:49 |
tigert | erm, bluetooth keyboard even | 12:49 |
_follower_ | tigert: i'd still like to be able to see what i'm typing with the thumb keyboard.... | 12:49 |
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X-Fade | Extra/external keyboards are no good when on a bus ;) | 12:50 |
tigert | you sort of can | 12:50 |
tigert | but yea | 12:50 |
glass | yeah carrying extra stuff sucks.. (i got a bt keyboard i barely use) | 12:50 |
tigert | it borks a lot with long texts | 12:50 |
tigert | its supposed to edit a chapter at a time | 12:50 |
_follower_ | as if it was an overlay rather than a opaque thing | 12:50 |
tigert | but it sometimes gets it very wrong and messes things up | 12:50 |
_follower_ | a chapter? | 12:50 |
tigert | _follower_: not going to happen with the "cheap" and "arm processor" | 12:50 |
glass | every-second pixel transpa might work | 12:51 |
_follower_ | tigert: i figured as much | 12:51 |
tigert | glass: I'd say not. its a huge amount of copying | 12:51 |
X-Fade | tigert: I disagree. | 12:51 |
X-Fade | While typing something, your webpage remains static. | 12:52 |
tigert | the biggest problem is | 12:52 |
X-Fade | So it shouldn't have to redraw.. | 12:52 |
tigert | its CRITICAL to the thumb keyboard usability to be able to see the keys | 12:52 |
tigert | at least in my experience | 12:52 |
_follower_ | X-Fade: yes! | 12:52 |
tigert | to see it actually got pressed, and to get a sound click from the touch screen | 12:52 |
_follower_ | it's the redraw action that's a pain | 12:52 |
X-Fade | yeah, but 20% transparancy whould be nice. | 12:52 |
tigert | this improves tyåing speed a lot | 12:52 |
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* Jaffa 'd be more impressed by the thumb keyboard if the "touchscreen makes a sound" was linked to an actual control being hit, otherwise the touchscreen sounds is a little less useful. | 12:52 | |
tigert | X-Fade: it already takes annoyingly long to open the thumb keyboard | 12:53 |
_follower_ | i'd be happy if the keyboard was larger and just pushed the view "up" but didn't force a redraw | 12:53 |
X-Fade | tigert: yeah, but that is not in the drawing phase ;) | 12:53 |
tigert | Jaffa: yea, that is a problem | 12:53 |
tigert | Jaffa: still, it helps my tyåing screen a LOT when sounds are loud | 12:53 |
Jaffa | Is Gtk's (or the touchscreen's) processing of presses on the thumbboard more clever? i.e. average out the area of detected press to localise it. I'd've thought it was, but a lot of the time I get "@" rather than "p" etc. | 12:54 |
keesj | I will flash my nokia with the update 2006, | 12:55 |
keesj | it it good to backup , or is it better to redo from start? | 12:55 |
tigert | Jaffa: I am not sure | 12:56 |
tigert | Jaffa: itd be interesting to do some dictionary matching to try to guess better | 12:56 |
tigert | but it might get complicated | 12:56 |
tigert | like automatic typo correction in word processors | 12:57 |
koen | noooo! | 12:57 |
tigert | :) | 12:57 |
tigert | :)) | 12:57 |
koen | automatic typo correction sucks | 12:57 |
tigert | yea, I know | 12:57 |
tigert | it does | 12:57 |
* timeless sighs | 12:57 | |
tigert | :) | 12:57 |
timeless | use 2005,, it's a better platform | 12:57 |
koen | try typing a report in word | 12:57 |
tigert | lets not go there :) | 12:57 |
timeless | it has a working pdf reader | 12:57 |
tigert | now its lunchtime | 12:57 |
tigert | :) | 12:57 |
X-Fade | Maybe a thumb-t9 keyboard ;) | 12:57 |
koen | 'ethernet' -> 'etherniet' | 12:58 |
X-Fade | koen: It always sucks on technical terms :) | 12:58 |
timeless | i'm cutious | 12:58 |
timeless | what themes do people here use? | 12:59 |
X-Fade | LCARS | 12:59 |
glass | default, i'm not that picky | 12:59 |
keesj | default | 12:59 |
glass | and as i use it mostly for web browsing in fullscreen.. | 12:59 |
roope | morning. | 13:00 |
koen | X-Fade: I only use word when working with non latex-savvy people doing technical reports :) | 13:00 |
timeless | glass: thanks for noting that :) | 13:00 |
timeless | out of curiosity, how do you get to pages? | 13:00 |
roope | I don't think transparency would work with the thumb keyboard. It gets too messy. | 13:01 |
roope | Or then it's too weak to really see anything. | 13:01 |
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roope | Not to mention the technical problems with refreshing, updates etc. | 13:01 |
koen | and with greasy fingers on the screen | 13:01 |
netmask | hello | 13:02 |
glass | timeless: with the bottom of screen thingy | 13:02 |
timeless | glass: always present, or when you need it? | 13:02 |
_follower_ | roope: yeah, that's true. i retract that request and go with the "just don't redraw" and "make the keys larger" :-) | 13:02 |
glass | the sites i visit are in the last typed list | 13:02 |
glass | always present | 13:02 |
timeless | and you use the drop down, so you aren't actually typing | 13:02 |
roope | Even larger? Aren't they pretty much maxed out? :) | 13:03 |
timeless | interesting, thanks | 13:03 |
timeless | anyone else? | 13:03 |
timeless | glass: do you use bookmarks? | 13:03 |
glass | timeless: not really | 13:03 |
glass | i never seem to get around to making them :p | 13:03 |
roope | The horizontal width, that is. Increasing height doesn't really bring benefits if the width stays the same. | 13:03 |
timeless | glass: *nod* | 13:03 |
* timeless sighs | 13:05 | |
timeless | roope: i think i'm tempted to visit you | 13:05 |
* timeless needs to find someone | 13:05 | |
_follower_ | roope: i meant the size of the keys on the "pop up" keyboard rather than the finger keyboard | 13:05 |
roope | OOh, ok. | 13:05 |
roope | Well. I can produce usability studies that indicate (that with a stylus) the width makes no difference to the input speeds. :) | 13:06 |
_follower_ | i.e. i'd like the popup keyboard to have larger keys and "popup" "over" the view instead of pushing it up. | 13:06 |
roope | The larger they are, the more hand movements you have to make. | 13:06 |
roope | follower: ooh. well. wouldn't it suck? | 13:06 |
roope | VKB can have 50% less width and still retain about the same input speed. | 13:07 |
roope | IT's currently a bit too wide, actually, you need to move your hands slightly from one edge to another. | 13:07 |
roope | An input method over the view could cover the content, or the input field you are inputting to. | 13:07 |
_follower_ | well yeah, but it would be smart enough not to :-) | 13:08 |
roope | Then what would be the benefit of this solution? | 13:08 |
_follower_ | i guess it would push it up sometimes (but *without* the redraw) | 13:08 |
roope | "Sometimes" is difficult to specify. | 13:09 |
_follower_ | the benefit i'm looking for is making the popup keyboard have larger keys so it can be a finger keyboard, but also not force a screen redraw | 13:09 |
roope | It either pushes up or it doesn't. | 13:09 |
roope | I see, but you really can't fit finger sized controls in a non-full screen solution. | 13:10 |
roope | YOu see the current finger keyboard, with 3 rows. Plus you need controls to switch the layouts. And space and backspace. | 13:10 |
roope | If you make it smaller, it's not finger usable any more. | 13:10 |
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roope | If you would have T9, for instance, you could have like a 12 finger button keyboard. | 13:12 |
roope | That would fit in the same space as currently. | 13:12 |
roope | Barely. But a full qwerty cant. | 13:12 |
_follower_ | hmmm... | 13:12 |
_follower_ | well, looking at the current finger keyboard | 13:13 |
roope | (which would be an interesting concept btw). | 13:13 |
_follower_ | you could still show the actual text entry area instead of showing just the text. (or reduce the number of "extra" keys) | 13:14 |
_follower_ | it'd be interesting to mock up something but it's probably beyond me at the moment. :-) | 13:15 |
roope | You could, but what is "the actual"? An entry widget is just like any other widget. You're probably referring to the context, what is around that entry area, right? | 13:16 |
part | it would be really nice to have free (ie. hackable) input methods | 13:16 |
_follower_ | roope: yeah, the context, i guess would be the word I was looking for. :-) | 13:16 |
roope | Showing the title of the text widget for instance would be nice. | 13:17 |
roope | But then again, web pages have entry fields with no titles to them. Or the system cannot know what is the title. | 13:17 |
_follower_ | i was thinking more in context of xterm.. | 13:17 |
_follower_ | (for example) | 13:17 |
keesj | I used to use moostly the web browser. | 13:18 |
keesj | now I really often use mplayer and mediastreamer | 13:18 |
keesj | and maemo-mapper is also quite some funny | 13:20 |
roope | It's a worthwhile to study, but finger usability really requires quite big changes. I at least can't really see how to fit a keyboard on the screen without using the whole screen. | 13:24 |
roope | You can cram it, but it won't be quick or usable, so. :) | 13:24 |
suihkulokki | roope: translucent fullscreen vkb =) | 13:24 |
roope | Take photoshop, take screenshot, take screenshot of finger keyboard, layer opacity 50%, enjoy the result. ;) | 13:25 |
part | suihkulokki: implementation, please :) | 13:25 |
_follower_ | roope: wait, photoshop runs on the 770??? :-) | 13:26 |
roope | It barely works if you dim the background and put the keyboard opacity into ~80%, but then again, it cannot be implemented right now. | 13:26 |
roope | Lauching and closing speeds should be ASAP anyway. | 13:27 |
roope | as small as possible. ;) | 13:27 |
keesj | hmm , it's the second time my mmc card is redered unusable after installing maemo-mapper | 13:38 |
keesj | did anybody experiance the same problems? | 13:38 |
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part | mmc card seems to be working, but maemo mapper only shows a black screen | 14:11 |
part | seems to download a lot of maps when some magic URLs are inserted, just doesn't display anything | 14:12 |
timeless | roope: fwiw web pages get really upset when they're shifted around | 14:13 |
timeless | for anything that does scrolling you're much better off *not* resizing the view and just letting the scrollbars deal | 14:13 |
timeless | xterm w/ ssh+screen+epic is a great example too | 14:13 |
timeless | but imo maps.google.com is the more typical example | 14:14 |
timeless | much better *never* telling the web app/remote app/whatever that the screen dimensions have changed | 14:14 |
timeless | roope: feel free to visit | 14:15 |
inz | Hmm, I wonder if doing some ugly things with gtk_im_context_set_client_window could be used to prevent xterm from resizing... | 14:17 |
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Guardian | hi | 14:36 |
keesj | wow , the backup worked great! | 14:37 |
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roope | Well. In some cases, yeah. But it's a compromise. | 15:19 |
roope | There are more cases where it is beneficial than those where it is harmful. | 15:19 |
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littlefae | Hiya peeps | 16:16 |
Tak | morning | 16:16 |
littlefae | Does anyone know much about Xournal? | 16:18 |
_follower_ | littlefae: i've installed it | 16:18 |
_follower_ | is "ok" but has some performance issues | 16:19 |
littlefae | I have too, I love it, but.. I would like to open up the files on my Mac. :) Which is what my question is about. | 16:19 |
_follower_ | haven't done anything serious with it though... | 16:19 |
_follower_ | do you have any specific qstns?> | 16:19 |
littlefae | I am wondering if there is anything that can open the xor format, under OS X, since there is no Xournal available for OS X | 16:19 |
_follower_ | hmmm... i wonder if it would run under X11.app? | 16:21 |
_follower_ | do you want to edit or just view the files? | 16:21 |
littlefae | View, for printing etc. :) | 16:21 |
littlefae | It's become my notepad you see, and I use it when war walking | 16:21 |
littlefae | Wonder if there is a xournal room on here... | 16:22 |
_follower_ | have you tried "export to pdf" | 16:22 |
littlefae | Ooh, no.. :o | 16:22 |
_follower_ | :-) | 16:23 |
_follower_ | i have a vague recollection of trying it but it looked a little "rough"--may depend on your pdf viewer though... | 16:23 |
_follower_ | anyway, I'd suggest that. :-D | 16:23 |
littlefae | OSX Preview. :D | 16:23 |
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_follower_ | wow, so, thanks to "Disk Inventory X" i just discovered a 1.1GB console.log file on my machine from a couple of months ago--i may yet find enough space to get a QEmu'd scratchbox... | 17:52 |
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_follower_ | Ok, so, any suggestions on what the minimum install of something I would need to setup scratchbox? (in terms of minimising both diskspace and processing when running seeing as i'll be VMing it...) | 18:51 |
_follower_ | hmmm, oh... :-( "3 GB of hard disc space when using rootstrap." | 18:55 |
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_follower_ | oh, maybe the liveCD? Has anyone had any experience with the live CD mentioned here: http://maemo.org/maemowiki/LiveCD ? | 19:06 |
_follower_ | hmmm judging by the file modification dates (june 2005) I guess not... | 19:08 |
mgedmin | IIRC it's for Maemo 1.1 | 19:09 |
* mgedmin found the 3 gigs for scratchbox somehow | 19:10 | |
_follower_ | yeah, looks like it... | 19:10 |
_follower_ | currently I have 3-ish gigs for the OS install and the scratchbox :-( | 19:10 |
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_follower_ | is it usual to get "500 internal server error" on the maemo.org wiki at the moment? | 19:25 |
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dpb | _follower_: works for me | 19:26 |
_follower_ | it does most of the time for me too--but when i've done searches and page edits in the last 30 min or so i've occasionally got 500's... | 19:27 |
* dpb shrugs | 19:27 | |
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rev | haha | 19:44 |
rev | er | 19:44 |
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jobi | hi all | 19:54 |
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MDK | hey | 19:57 |
* MDK is giving scratchbox 1.0.6 + kernel 2.6.18 a spin | 19:58 | |
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Tak | rev: ping gba/vba? | 20:05 |
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shapr | Tak: gameboy advance with Visual Basic for Applications?? | 20:09 |
Tak | sounds like a match made in heaven, doesn't it? | 20:10 |
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timeless | swift# zoneadm -z nexenta boot | 20:16 |
timeless | WARNING: skipping interface 'lo' which may not be present/plumbed in the global zone. | 20:16 |
timeless | oops | 20:16 |
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X-Fade | bergie: How's the appcatalog work coming along? :) | 21:01 |
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bergie | hi | 21:01 |
bergie | tigert was designing the UI today I believe | 21:01 |
bergie | but since I've been offline the whole day I haven't seen the results yet | 21:01 |
X-Fade | Yeah, saw his commit. | 21:01 |
X-Fade | It's on garage. | 21:01 |
bergie | I have time booked for plugging his CSS into Midgard on friday but may do it earlier | 21:02 |
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bergie | now Midgard produces different output than he needs so I need to modify that a bit | 21:02 |
X-Fade | Ah, yeah so that needs work. | 21:03 |
* timeless ponders | 21:04 | |
timeless | there are living people here? :) | 21:04 |
X-Fade | timeless: Yes, only they have day jobs ;) | 21:04 |
bergie | X-Fade: the default XHTML is obviously quite generic, and we wanted more finetuned stuff for maemo.org | 21:04 |
* timeless ponders | 21:05 | |
timeless | does a night job not count? | 21:05 |
X-Fade | Well, they're busy during the day, so they can't respond on IRC? | 21:06 |
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X-Fade | Unless you have time to IRC at work. | 21:06 |
timeless | i have time to bug them directly at work | 21:06 |
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pokute_ | suihkulokki: translucent fullscreen dasher would be more fun. | 21:13 |
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waite | hi all. Just got my 770. I was wondering how minisip (or other) sip client is running under 2006 | 21:40 |
keesj | gizmo works ok | 21:42 |
waite | Yeah but I want to connect to my SIp acct on a different provider | 21:43 |
keesj | google talk is in there by default , but it did not work together with linux google talk clients | 21:43 |
keesj | waite, In that area I am only a end user, so I really don't know | 21:43 |
waite | np. Ill keep lurking and poking. It sounds like minisip might be coming along | 21:44 |
keesj | waite, did you try it yet the minisip? | 21:47 |
waite | No it has a comment that it does not work for 2006 yet but is being worked on | 21:48 |
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keesj | A ok | 22:00 |
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