| Anidel | post-barcelona effect : http://share.ovi.com/media/anidel.n900/anidel.10183 | 00:21 |
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| Anidel | sorry it was not intended here | 00:21 |
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| jebba | ok, since i go crazy everytime i type "diff" on the n900 and don't have diff and because you can't install regular diff either, welcome a new package: diffmoe! :) | 01:08 |
| jebba | the same 4 binaries in diff/diff3/cmp/sdiff, but with "mo" added | 01:09 |
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| jebba | except i keep typing "moe" cuz that's my last name | 01:09 |
| woglinde | *g* | 01:10 |
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| jebba | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3032 | 01:10 |
| povbot | Bug 3032: missing diff utility (required by the GNU Coding Standards) | 01:10 |
| jebba | woo hooo, works. 'cept the locale data assumes a diffutils. But i suppose i can leave that there cuz if real diff comes along, it's obsolete | 01:14 |
| jebba | gah, wish i could cancel a pending build tho | 01:15 |
| jebba | oh well | 01:15 |
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| jebba | ah, dont think it will matter. Just uploaded an unneeded .tar.gz tho | 01:15 |
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| jebba | hmm, not sure what it'll do actually weird. | 01:16 |
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| jebba | I think the clock on the build machine is off by 7 years: | 01:51 |
| jebba | make: Warning: File `debian/rules' has modification time 2.6e+03 s in the future | 01:51 |
| jebba | touch -t 200202280523.10 src/util.c | 01:51 |
| woglinde | jebba jupp the time on sdk computer is wire | 01:52 |
| woglinde | d | 01:52 |
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| BabelO | ruskie: so now i m sure my app need sudo :) as it need to create a sqlite file | 02:11 |
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| ifreq | heyz | 02:12 |
| ifreq | testing to build bootstrap with pkgsrc (just 4 curiosity) | 02:12 |
| ifreq | atleast its still running :-) *g* | 02:12 |
| BabelO | jebba: around, i see you got problem to get icon displayed in app manager ? how did you solve it ? | 02:23 |
| jebba | need to make one 48x48 and 64x64 and put them in the hildon subdir | 02:23 |
| jebba | http://www.freemoe.org/users/jebba/scratchbox/burgerspace/freemoe/burgerspace-1.8.3/debian/rules check there BabelO | 02:24 |
| BabelO | jebba i don't understand, i mean my app have the icon in menu, but not inapplication manager when you download, i ve added the Xb-maemo with uuencoded | 02:25 |
| BabelO | is it that ? | 02:25 |
| BabelO | you have many icons there a xpm and some others | 02:27 |
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| BabelO | ah, maybe the = at end of line | 02:30 |
| jebba | ah | 02:42 |
| jebba | yes, that can do it | 02:42 |
| jebba | the app manager just looks at the one in your control file | 02:42 |
| jebba | also, that has to be 48x48 IIRC | 02:42 |
| BabelO | jebba: i ve followed the wiki, but your say XB-Maemo-Icon-26: and mine have XB-Maemo-Icon26: | 02:43 |
| BabelO | :) | 02:43 |
| jebba | ah | 02:44 |
| jebba | fix the wiki if it's busted. | 02:44 |
| BabelO | warning, `debian/qlandkartem/DEBIAN/control' contains user-defined field `Maemo-Display-Name' | 02:45 |
| BabelO | warning, `debian/qlandkartem/DEBIAN/control' contains user-defined field `Maemo-Icon-26' | 02:45 |
| BabelO | i got that | 02:45 |
| BabelO | strange | 02:45 |
| VDVsx | BabelO, that's normal, np | 02:46 |
| BabelO | VDVsx: ok but still no icon | 02:46 |
| BabelO | hmm | 02:46 |
| jebba | well, the builder is going fast, we should be throwing apps at it :) | 02:49 |
| jebba | BabelO: pastebin your control file | 02:49 |
| jebba | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=37602 for you diff fans | 02:49 |
| BabelO | jebba: http://pastebin.ca/1718945 | 02:50 |
| BabelO | this kde applet is very fast for pastebin :) | 02:50 |
| jebba | BabelO: looks too small | 02:51 |
| jebba | to short. | 02:51 |
| jebba | is it a 48x48 icon? | 02:51 |
| BabelO | jebba: it is a16x16 | 02:53 |
| jebba | BabelO: got to be 48x48 | 02:54 |
| BabelO | ok i try to find the svg | 02:54 |
| jebba | worst case, just upscale what you have, but from svg would be prettier for sure | 02:55 |
| BabelO | ok done with convert tools from a 128x128 icons | 03:01 |
| BabelO | trying again | 03:01 |
| BabelO | jebba: thanks a lot it is ok now :) | 03:08 |
| jebba | cool! nice to hear BabelO. thx VDVsx too, cuz he taught me :) | 03:12 |
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| jebba | http://www.natisbad.org/N900/ | 03:38 |
| BabelO | hmm | 04:00 |
| BabelO | jebba: ok i have finished the poackage need a new delivery :) | 04:02 |
| jebba | :) | 04:11 |
| * jebba off to fix burgerspace fullscreen | 04:11 | |
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| BabelO | jebba: how i do new release of package ? just changing version in debian/changelog ? | 04:15 |
| fnordianslip | BabelO: that's all i've done | 04:15 |
| jebba | yes | 04:16 |
| BabelO | ok | 04:16 |
| BabelO | ok thats enought for the night, new package loks good, ruskie will try once it is ok. Just need geotiff file to put under MyDocs/MyMaps | 04:18 |
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| BabelO | the 3D package capsule is impressive :) | 04:20 |
| BabelO | good night | 04:20 |
| jebba | good night! sleep well | 04:28 |
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| ruskie | BabelO, why doesn't it create an sqlite file in ~/ ??? | 07:23 |
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| ruskie | BabelO, can you please fix qlandkartem to actually generate the qlandkarte.db in $HOME not in: /opt/maemo/usr/bin/qlandkarte.db | 09:33 |
| ruskie | this is the problem | 09:34 |
| ruskie | maybe even use the XDG dir specification | 09:34 |
| ruskie | hmm btw anyone know what the run-standalone.sh script does??? I don't get why it would be needed on the N900 | 09:35 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | heh. another developer assuming his app has root? | 09:36 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ruskie: seems to set some envs | 09:37 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | maybe even chroot or sth | 09:37 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | never had a look at it | 09:38 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | but hey, seems it's a script. shouldn't be hard to tell what it does | 09:38 |
| ruskie | from what I can tell | 09:39 |
| ruskie | on a N900 env it should all be there already | 09:39 |
| ruskie | so no standalone necessary | 09:39 |
| ruskie | I'm guessing the standalone is for SDK testing | 09:39 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | jebba says it's needed for non-user processes like those started by cron | 09:40 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | to me that made sense | 09:41 |
| ruskie | yeah | 09:41 |
| ruskie | that actually makes sense | 09:41 |
| ruskie | infact more than sense | 09:41 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | stdin, stdout, $HOME, dbus system name, et all I'd guess | 09:43 |
| ruskie | hmm doesn't set HOME | 09:44 |
| ruskie | hmm anyone built custom locales yet? I'd like to use en_DK for LC_TIME | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | another dane? :P | 09:57 |
| ruskie | no | 09:59 |
| ruskie | but en_DK as iso date and time format :) | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | ah :P | 09:59 |
| ruskie | so LC_TIME=en_DK gives me iso date and time format all over the place :) | 09:59 |
| ruskie | Slovenia here though :) | 09:59 |
| ruskie | I tried building my own posix-locales but it keeps failing to build in the SDK | 10:00 |
| ruskie | also the deb on the device installs a different set than from what I can tell is the default target in the src deb | 10:00 |
| ruskie | hmm or not | 10:01 |
| ruskie | yeah seems to be the same | 10:01 |
| ruskie | but why doesn't it build I don't get | 10:01 |
| * ruskie tries building again | 10:02 | |
| ruskie | Building locale ar_OM (UTF-8) | 10:15 |
| ruskie | make: *** [build-stamp] Error 126 | 10:15 |
| ruskie | still that Error 126 | 10:15 |
| ruskie | and I have no clue what the f... that is | 10:15 |
| ruskie | if anyone else has any ideas care to share? | 10:18 |
| ruskie | this is a plain test run of trynig to build the same posix-locales | 10:19 |
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| Micha_ | good morning. anybody know how long it takes a project webpage to be activated on garage after upload? | 10:29 |
| woglinde | Micha_ sometime | 10:29 |
| woglinde | garage is slow | 10:29 |
| Micha_ | no kidding! makes it somewhat frustrating for a new developer trying to figure things out | 10:30 |
| Micha_ | try something, wait a day... | 10:30 |
| Micha_ | but i think i read somewhere there's an upgrade planned? | 10:31 |
| woglinde | jepp | 10:33 |
| woglinde | but I dont know the timeline | 10:33 |
| woglinde | but the new machine is faster | 10:33 |
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| Micha_ | looking forward to it. | 10:38 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | faster than the 770 in downclocked mode they use now for garage? sounds feasible ;-) | 11:01 |
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| Micha_ | doh. silly mistake with svn import re webpage. | 11:25 |
| woglinde | hm why you dont use git? | 11:27 |
| Micha_ | haven'nt used git before | 11:28 |
| csaavedra | garage is so damn slow | 11:29 |
| Micha_ | already new to python & maemo | 11:29 |
| ruskie | hmm maybe we do need a #maemo-noise channel for all the OT stuff that's happening in maemo | 11:30 |
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| woglinde | hi lbt | 11:33 |
| woglinde | maemo-ovi? | 11:33 |
| lbt | morning woglinde | 11:34 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ruskie: won't help | 11:34 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ruskie: noise is where the crowd is. people crowd where the action is | 11:35 |
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| hrw | morning | 11:56 |
| woglinde | hrw n900 RMA? | 11:56 |
| hrw | woglinde: they got mine, will send new one | 11:57 |
| woglinde | cool | 11:58 |
| hrw | and I got new bug to check | 12:02 |
| woglinde | cool | 12:03 |
| hrw | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6823 | 12:14 |
| povbot | Bug 6823: media player won't play any video files now (.avi) divx / xvid | 12:14 |
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| woglinde | hrw hm this bugreport is crappy | 12:37 |
| BabelO | ruskie: hi, i already do all those change to qlandkarte, running as std user now, qlandkarte.db goes to home, and maps to MyDocs/MyMaps | 12:52 |
| BabelO | nded ffffffffote gtkrc env | 12:53 |
| ruskie | :) | 12:53 |
| BabelO | run-standalone is needed on device for the theme variable use by qt 4.6 and some other stuff like font size or screen size | 12:54 |
| ruskie | ahh | 12:54 |
| ruskie | I guess it's not yet in the default script or something | 12:54 |
| ruskie | but that seems to be in the device env | 12:54 |
| BabelO | ruskie: do you see the updated app ? now i added icon to downloader and a better name with space, thanks to jebba | 12:57 |
| ruskie | yeah got an update notification | 12:58 |
| ruskie | will update now | 12:58 |
| BabelO | running as root was because of db and some other stuff | 12:58 |
| ruskie | should never be needed | 12:58 |
| BabelO | ruskie: do you have geotiff file ? | 12:58 |
| ruskie | no | 12:59 |
| ruskie | but could probably generate one from one of the sde's at work | 12:59 |
| ruskie | if arcgis desktop supports it | 12:59 |
| BabelO | maemo-dev does not work here !( | 13:02 |
| woglinde | hm do we have git-buildpackage for maemo too? | 13:04 |
| BabelO | ruskie: to do maps you need to set wgs84 latlong proj in the geotiff | 13:05 |
| ruskie | hmm this is weird... | 13:06 |
| ruskie | I see SMSes in conversations but not when I open them | 13:07 |
| ruskie | bloddy brilliant... accounts get stored in a plain text file in cleartext for all passwords | 13:12 |
| hrw | woglinde: yes, it is | 13:12 |
| hrw | woglinde: but many maemo bugreports have similiar quality | 13:13 |
| BabelO | lot of librarie not optified | 13:16 |
| woglinde | BabelO jupp | 13:16 |
| woglinde | is known | 13:16 |
| BabelO | xchat is big | 13:17 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | xchat is great | 13:17 |
| anidel | anyone knows GTK and UI Manager XML specs? | 13:20 |
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| BabelO | DocScrutinizer51: optified, it is great and better :) | 13:23 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | BabelO: and if somebody fixed that annoying segfault on prefs saving, that would be even more awesome | 13:24 |
| BabelO | DocScrutinizer51: ok i see, i got a issue while optified gdal does not works | 13:25 |
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| BabelO | ruskie: how can i look for bad librairie path ? quickly ? i m doing all by hand only 9Mb free on device :( | 13:27 |
| ruskie | ldd | 13:29 |
| ruskie | ldd filename | 13:29 |
| ruskie | to list all the libs | 13:29 |
| ruskie | it will tell you what's missing as well | 13:29 |
| BabelO | ok i already do like that | 13:31 |
| BabelO | btw libxerces is 3Mb | 13:31 |
| ruskie | hmm anyone know where the sms db is ??? | 13:33 |
| hrw | optifing and optifing... | 13:33 |
| ruskie | or conversations one that is | 13:33 |
| hrw | why not add /opt/lib/ to ldconfig path and just put all libs there? | 13:34 |
| hrw | add /opt/bin /opt/sbin/ to PATH etc? | 13:34 |
| ruskie | it's not /opt/bin | 13:34 |
| ruskie | it's /opt/maemo/usr/lib iirc | 13:34 |
| ruskie | this is weird | 13:35 |
| BabelO | lol | 13:35 |
| ruskie | I'm getting no incoming messages | 13:35 |
| BabelO | ok i found where my lost space is | 13:35 |
| ruskie | not the path | 13:35 |
| BabelO | capsule ! | 13:35 |
| hrw | ruskie: whatever | 13:36 |
| hrw | ruskie: maemo5 looks like 'we release and then start worry' | 13:36 |
| hrw | btw: is there a API to check is ~/MyDocs mounted? | 13:37 |
| hrw | or should I manually parse /proc/mounts? | 13:37 |
| BabelO | ruskie: did you try to move python to /opt/maemo ? | 13:40 |
| ruskie | BabelO, from what I know it's already there | 13:41 |
| BabelO | ruskie: ruskie hmm, not here python2.5 is in usr/lib | 13:42 |
| ruskie | it's mounted | 13:42 |
| ruskie | check: mount | 13:42 |
| ruskie | atleast iirc that's how it is | 13:42 |
| hrw | BabelO: someone invented 4 bind mounts just to have python optified | 13:42 |
| BabelO | 14 Mb saved | 13:43 |
| BabelO | no such here | 13:44 |
| hrw | I had them on n900. now I cannot check cause I do not have that n900 | 13:46 |
| * ruskie tries removing all the unnucessary messages to see what the f... is wrong with SMSes | 13:46 | |
| BabelO | ok once python is moved i got more freespace | 13:47 |
| hrw | no one tried unionfs or other that type of app? | 13:48 |
| BabelO | 10 mW wifi save more battery :) i keep it like this for now | 13:48 |
| ruskie | hrw, apparently not | 13:51 |
| ruskie | I just repartitioned myself :) | 13:51 |
| ruskie | prefer that to overlays :) | 13:51 |
| BabelO | ruskie: how did you update my app ? i cant get updated maemo-devel :( | 13:52 |
| ruskie | I didn't yet | 13:52 |
| ruskie | well dumped all the events in the DB... now I wonder if I'll be actually getting the SMS where it belongs | 13:52 |
| hrw | ok, is there an official api way to check does ~/MyDocs is mounted or not? | 13:52 |
| ruskie | does it matter? | 13:52 |
| ruskie | if it's mounted or not | 13:52 |
| hrw | if it is mounted then I can fetch there and play music from it. if it is not then I cannot | 13:53 |
| ruskie | what if it's not mounted on purpose? and still has content? | 13:53 |
| hrw | otherwise all fetched content is not available after mount | 13:53 |
| ruskie | hmm this is weird | 13:54 |
| hrw | ruskie: maemo devel guide suggests using MyDocs partition for all storage things. and also say 'be aware that it can be unmounted due to usb storage mode in action' | 13:54 |
| hrw | so I prefer to know is it available or not | 13:54 |
| BabelO | hrw: so just listen to dbus ? | 13:59 |
| hrw | any working example? | 14:02 |
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| BabelO | hrw|gone: like ruskie say, check dbus monitor when you choose usb storage :à | 14:06 |
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| jebba | morn | 15:25 |
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| Stskeeps | morn jebba | 15:26 |
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| BabelO | morning | 15:44 |
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| hrw | re | 15:55 |
| hrw | BabelO: ok | 15:55 |
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| BabelO | any idea how to access phone device or what device it is ? | 19:00 |
| jebba | hit power button. Tap "phone" ;) | 19:19 |
| jebba | but i'm guessing you want to do something else. There are dbus commands, for example. | 19:20 |
| jebba | http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba#DBUS | 19:20 |
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| BabelO | jebba: i look for the device to send the ussd command | 19:25 |
| jebba | ah heh. well, good luck with that one. Hope you figure it out. | 19:31 |
| jebba | I might have something mentioned about that in my #Random section | 19:32 |
| BabelO | jebba: i have the AT+CUSD= command so just need to send it | 19:38 |
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| jebba | ya,. no clue sorry | 19:57 |
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| ruskie | jebba, couldn't the dbus stuff send it? | 20:18 |
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| hrw | there is no api for that? | 21:48 |
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| hrw | jebba: "man ssh-copy-id" please | 22:00 |
| hrw | jebba: will make your life a bit easier | 22:00 |
| hrw | jebba: tried to store repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sourceslist.d/jebba.list? | 22:02 |
| hrw | I am reading your wiki page now | 22:02 |
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| jebba | I went to central buenos aires and back, in rush hour, on a friday, and garage.org/packages is *still* spinning in my browser on return. | 22:17 |
| jebba | hrw: ah cool. About 2 lines easier heh. | 22:17 |
| jebba | hrw: you can put it in either. If you put it in the hildon.list it will erase it if you run app manager. | 22:18 |
| hrw | one time to give password and no need to type too much | 22:18 |
| jebba | ya, definitely will use that command | 22:18 |
| hrw | h-a-m suxx still | 22:18 |
| jebba | gotta go run & mail something. back in 30 or so. | 22:19 |
| hrw | np | 22:20 |
| hrw | 21:20 here | 22:20 |
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| jebba | heh. the taxi driver was just explaining to me how great openstreetmaps is ;) | 23:14 |
| Anidel | he was ? :) | 23:14 |
| hrw | jebba: let me guess - he is from netherlands? | 23:15 |
| jebba | ya, talking about how great it was if he sees like a street marked the wrong way, he can go edit it, there's restaurants (italian, mcdonalds.etc), the whole shebang. | 23:15 |
| jebba | hrw: no, argentina | 23:16 |
| hrw | ah | 23:16 |
| ruskie | fun | 23:16 |
| * ruskie wonders if applying hammer to maemo mapper would help get osm offline capability to it | 23:17 | |
| jebba | i've been using lightweigh maep, which is cute. Few features, but good for what it does. | 23:17 |
| ruskie | well I generally only need to have a map displayed | 23:18 |
| ruskie | not vene gps | 23:18 |
| jebba | check out maep | 23:18 |
| ruskie | jebba, can it use offline OSM data? and how can one generate it? | 23:19 |
| jebba | ya, i think so. Just point your map at a spot and it caches it. I think it caches it to same place as maemo-mapper too, but not certina | 23:20 |
| ruskie | well for me mmapper doesn't seem to cache anything | 23:20 |
| ruskie | I'd like some batch tool to get a map of an area | 23:21 |
| jebba | ah, well, with maep i think you'd just have to go look at the spot at the zoom level you want ; | 23:22 |
| jebba | Question: I have burgerspace-1.8.3-10 in extras-testing. I uploaded burgerspace-1.3.8-15 7 hours ago and it built fine and is in extras-devel. Does it automatically go into extras-testing or do I have to promote it? I've been trying to find a promote button for hours, but its so fkn slow I'm not sure if there is one or not. On the pages I've got to load, i havent seen a promote button. -15 is much better too :) | 23:28 |
| ruskie | iirc you do | 23:28 |
| fnordianslip | jebba: go to the page for your latest armel deb and there will be a "Promote" link to click. it will promote both the x86 and armel packages | 23:30 |
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