IRC log of #harmattan for Saturday, 2012-11-10

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vladestheymaster: define "memory management". control mmu?00:28
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heymastervladest: no just avoid memory leaks in qt code00:32
vladestheymaster: I think you need videos about valgrind00:33
heymasterbut qt has such thing like reference count so learning only about valgrind isn't best bet. bu it's ok00:35
heymasteri can find crash reason in my app. it crashes after i switch to another app00:36
heymasterlooks like00:36
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heymasterbest way to copy qstring to another string?00:51
paqstring string = otherqstring?00:58
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gabriel9anyone know what is this: Remote application finished with exit code 13901:00
payes, your app crashed, probably01:01
gabriel9but why?01:02
gabriel9i use QNetworkAccessManager01:02
gabriel9i think it crashes when i try to connect finish with some method01:03
heymasterit means segmentation fault01:03
heymastertry to comment out code to find which line causing crash01:03
heymasterpa: looks lie qstring str = qstring(other_str) makes deep copy01:04
gabriel9->get() is what couse my app to die01:06
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heymasterhard to say what is wrong without code. but i haven't worked with QNetworkAccessManager01:08
heymastersegmentation fault means01:08
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heymasterthat you calling method for object but object not initialized01:09
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heymasterdo you init object with new operator or using stack allocation?01:10
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gabriel9heymaster: that's it01:13
gabriel9i declared QNetworkAccessManager *nam;01:13
gabriel9but never created objec01:14
heymasternam = new QNetworkAccessManager();01:14
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gabriel9yes i created it in constructor of the class01:15
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antman8969anyone here happen to have an n9 on hand?10:49
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bluefoxN9 and N950 on my desk at the moment10:49
antman8969Do you think you could download an application named Scenic from the store? There is an error that happens only on the n9 ( I assume its pr1.3's fault) that I cannot reproduce on the n95010:51
antman8969it should just be broken out of the box10:51
bluefoxsure, what are the steps to reproduce the issue?10:54
antman8969Users are saying that the "+" button on the toolbar doesn't function10:55
antman8969its pretty much the only thing you can press after you install it10:55
antman8969It is supposed to launch a FolderSheet in QML... idk if they changed the API at all in pr1.310:55
bluefoxworks fine here10:56
antman8969you're on pr1.3?10:56
bluefoxopens up /opt/scenic/wallpaper10:56
antman8969well that's lame10:56
antman8969I can't think of what would only be affecting some select few...10:56
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bluefoxnothing comes to mind here...should all be the same aside from small regional variances, but even then, that shouldn't affect it10:57
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antman8969I may have to add some logging and the option to send error reports I suppose10:59
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antman8969thanks for the help though10:59
bluefoxno problem...sorry i couldn't help more10:59
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ketashow can i change status of data roaming when not using gui?12:08
ketasfound gconf value, now what12:09
ketasi also set it12:10
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pahow to change the volume from the command line?13:22
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heymasterbest irc client for harmattan ?13:49
rZrirssi ?13:51
rZrVenemo is still active on it i think13:52
ZogG_laptoprZr: heymaster he actually pulled update few days ago13:52
ZogG_laptopfixing some bugs :P13:52
Venemohey heymaster13:52
ZogG_laptopthe link is in logs somewhere13:52
ZogG_laptopVenemo: what's the link13:53
heymasterhey all13:53
Venemo -> there's the .deb13:53
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Venemo~irc-chatter is IRC Chatter, the official IRC client of Nemo and also best IRC client for Harmattan, authored by Venemo. Download it from
infobotVenemo: okay13:54
infobotfrom memory, irc-chatter is IRC Chatter, the official IRC client of Nemo and also best IRC client for Harmattan, authored by Venemo. Download it from
Venemothanks for the tip, ZogG_laptop13:54
rZrVenemo, i may upgrade the version in shared erpo too , should it ?13:55
heymasterVenemo: i tried irc chatter from rZr repo, but i found if close app all servers are not saved ? Does saving works with your version ?13:55
rZrheymaster, let me rebuild a version13:56
rZri'll try to do that today13:56
Venemoheymaster, please try the version from my link, and if the bug is in there, tell me about it13:56
VenemorZr, I'll fix the remaining bugs and put it up to the nokia store soon13:56
heymasterVenemo: ok13:56
VenemorZr, as a free app13:56
VenemorZr, but if you like, you can of course put it into your repo too13:56
rZri will build a snapshot version from git13:56
VenemorZr, uh-oh, please use the latest release tag13:57
ZogG_laptop~irc-chatter is IRC Chatter is a lightweight, touch-friendly IRC client aimed at MeeGo and Harmattan by Venemo. IRC Chatter is based on Qt, QML, and its backend uses libcommuni, a Qt-based IRC client library. Source — . The latest deb should be here —
infobot...but irc-chatter is already something else...13:57
ZogG_laptopVenemo: damn i didn't see u assigned13:57
ZogG_laptopi saw it was missing and went to google to gather all links :P13:57
VenemorZr, latest git snapshot may or may not work, the best would be to go with the v0.3.1 tagged release, that's what's tested13:58
rZrVenemo, do u use cobs ?13:59
ZogG_laptopVenemo: do u use drugs ?13:59
VenemorZr, I still haven't got a clue about it13:59
VenemoZogG_laptop, no13:59
ZogG_laptopt was joke :P14:00
Venemoif you consider Twitter a drug (it's equally as addictive) then the answer is yes14:00
ZogG_laptopVenemo: make the symlink package-latest.deb to the latest release and than you can add QR code that would work always for latest version :P14:01
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VenemoZogG_laptop, I'll just upload to nokia store. that's the best place to get visibility for it14:02
ZogG_laptopgabriel9: why u need qjson :P14:02
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ZogG_laptopVenemo: or you can upload too store ,where is the best place to get visibility for it :P14:02
Venemothank you guys for caring about my app :)14:04
ZogG_laptopVenemo: lol14:05
ZogG_laptopit's not you but us more interested in great apps and that's why only we can thank you, and not vs :)14:05
ZogG_laptopgabriel9: that's the way i parse14:06
VenemoZogG_laptop, I would've given up a long time ago if noone cared14:06
ZogG_laptopVenemo: ._.14:07
ZogG_laptopVenemo: you use nokia components right?14:09
ZogG_laptopqml ones i mean14:09
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VenemoZogG_laptop, yes14:09
ZogG_laptop;\ So until you re-write it for bb10 i can't enjoy it on playbook :P14:10
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VenemoZogG_laptop, it won't be that hard14:12
ZogG_laptopdon't think it would be, but 1) their components really differ from nokia's, 2) they have few nice features you can implent like menu wise and extra options, 3) i don't want to try it myself as i'm noob and i may ruin it :P14:13
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ZogG_N9trying new irc chatter14:14
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VenemoZogG_laptop, as soon as I get a developer device from BlackBerry, I'll port it14:15
Venemodon't worry14:15
ZogG_laptopVenemo: btw don't you want to add an option for deamon that i can close app and it would run in background so i'll still get highlights :P14:15
VenemoZogG_laptop, you can run the app in the background14:15
ZogG_laptopwhen it's in active apps list, right?14:16
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ZogG_laptopqwazix: hey man :P14:16
Venemohey qwazix14:17
qwazixVenemo, hey14:17
gabriel9hi ZogG_laptop14:22
ZogG_laptopgabriel9: hey14:23
ZogG_laptopgabriel9: you broke the chain, it had to be "hey" and not "hi"14:23
gabriel9interesting example14:23
gabriel9i will try it14:23
gabriel9if i ever get rigt response from the server14:24
ZogG_laptopworks for me, it may take time and debug to understand how to get to specific part :P14:24
gabriel9that's ok14:24
ZogG_laptopgabriel9: as well i have example there where i pass all repsonse to qml and handle it in qml i think14:24
ZogG_laptopcheck the gallery related parts14:24
ZogG_laptopno problemo :P14:25
gabriel9just to make this QNetworkAccessManager to work14:25
ZogG_laptopgabriel9: i use it too :P14:25
gabriel9i only get 299 error in my response14:25
gabriel9some header's are trouble14:26
ZogG_laptopthat's why i try not to use those :P14:26
gabriel9but i can't find which one, i did not set none14:26
gabriel9i guess it add some of it's own14:26
ZogG_laptopro you need to set one :P14:26
gabriel9i know :D14:27
ZogG_laptopor method of request should be different14:27
gabriel9request is get, and i want response javascript14:27
ZogG_laptopgabriel9: use ngrep to catch what u sending14:27
ZogG_laptopnot ngrep even but wireshark14:27
gabriel9i just installed wireshark-cli and it's not working XD14:27
ZogG_laptopgabriel9: tcpdump -i any -w ~/dump.pcap and when finished Ctrl+C it and open file in wireshark :P14:29
ZogG_laptopdo it on device and then scp it to computer and open there14:29
gabriel9i just remember i'm developing on N9 :D14:32
gabriel9and i captured packages on desktop14:32
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padoes harmattan have opencl support and runtime?14:35
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gabriel9ZogG: i have no tcpdump on my N914:39
ZogG_laptopgabriel9: install it i think it's in repos14:45
ZogG_laptopit is14:46
ZogG_laptopi just checked14:46
ZogG_laptopok i had to reboot into windows i may pop in from there :P14:46
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Venemohey jreznik :)15:05
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jreznikVenemo: hi!15:05
* jreznik is at Linux Color Management hackfest right now, thinking about CM in Harmattan :D15:05
jreznikbut it's crazy idea :D15:06
Venemojreznik, you can select a color profile in Harmattan15:06
jreznikVenemo: I know, just not sure it makes sense to try to calibrate it with colorhug15:06
jreznikor deploy colord/oyranos as guys are working on it here15:07
Venemoah, I dunno15:07
jreznikI'm more the local contact with my CM knowledge15:07
VenemoI'm trying to get QNetworkSession to behave15:11
* rZr : current archive #backup and future , #MaemO #MeeGo #Harmattan !n950club #n90015:20
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ZogG_laptopVenemo, ping15:32
VenemoZogG_laptop, pong15:32
ZogG_laptopVenemo, you said you work on tweetian for nemo, right?15:33
ZogG_laptopso is it good?15:34
gabriel9i hate headers :/đ15:34
ZogG_laptopare you forking it? or you pushing changes back?15:34
VenemoZogG_laptop, it is good. you can already try it on Harmattan15:34
VenemoZogG_laptop, I don't think there'll be that many changes15:34
ZogG_laptopi want to switch native to something else as i'm tired of cleaning db, otherwise i get "app is not responding on the start" :(15:35
Venemoyep, Tweetian is a good choice15:36
ZogG_laptopVenemo, what about QNeptunea ?15:36
VenemoI use it on Harmattan too15:36
ZogG_laptopi heard good feedback about it15:36
VenemoQNeptunea is bloated15:36
Venemotoo heavy15:36
ZogG_laptopbut is functionality of tweetian enuf? does it has notification (on lpm screen and etc) ?15:37
Venemoyes, it supports notifications15:38
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ZogG_laptopthan i'll try it15:38
ZogG_laptopwhat are you patching it btw?15:38
ZogG_laptopVenemo, i know i keep saying than instead of then :P15:38
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ZogG_laptoplately i'm trying to control myslef on that subject but i fail mostly :P15:39
ZogG_laptopit's not like u don't understand me15:41
Venemothis is about correctness15:41
ZogG_laptoptalk to my dyslexia :P15:42
ZogG_laptopand we all do mistakes15:42
ZogG_laptopi don't do it on purpose15:42
Venemookay :)15:42
ZogG_laptopwhen you come to IL so we can go to pub (beer on me) ?15:43
Venemocan't afford going there :(15:43
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ZogG_laptopVenemo, so reports/requests and bugs goes to you or to main developer?16:00
VenemoZogG_laptop, probably the main developer16:00
VenemoZogG_laptop, his twitter handle can be found in the about box16:00
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ZogG_laptopjump is nice game for N916:05
gabriel9ZogG: why did you chose QScriptValue and QScriptEngine over QJson16:16
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pai have the N9 paired and connected with a bluetooth speaker, and it works fine except for calls. on incoming calls the bluetooth speaker gets cut out16:37
paif i have the speaker connected via audio cable, its fine.16:38
Venemopossibly the speaker doesn't support the necessary bluetooth profile for calls16:39
dm8tbrprobably the speaker is not intended as a handsfree device?16:39
paah okay16:41
pabtw i think i should make a backlighter++, that supports 0 brightness16:41
paso that it can be used with netview16:41
pai find extremely annoying that netview needs the phone active and with screen on in order to function16:42
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pahm maybe not needed. i can use meetrainer helper script17:04
paVenemo, dm8tbr, but isnt there any way to tell the phone that despite the speaker is not meant as handsfree device, i still want to route the loud speaker to it?17:07
dm8tbrpa: if you'd run nemo, maybe.17:08
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dm8tbrbut that would only make sense if there is awesome echo cancellation17:10
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pawell.. i think it works great when i plug in via cable17:14
paand no one has ever complained about echo, from the other side17:14
paactually the microphone of the n9 seems to be great, when headphones or external speakers are plugged in17:15
dm8tbrbt, different beast17:15
pamuch less when not17:15
padm8tbr, you mean , because of possible delays?17:16
dm8tbre.g. that17:16
dm8tbrbut also different paths17:16
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dm8tbryou can carefully ask jusa if he'd give you some pointers17:18
dm8tbrhe did similar for nemo17:18
paah cool, thanks17:20
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ketasstrange, phone seems to be gone from gone from network now18:11
ketaswonder why18:12
ketasit's like wtf, google doesn't come up with anything on how to configure phone via some commands18:13
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infobotjoppu <joppu@> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 365d 5h 28m 47s ago, saying: 'Venemo: on the wiki page, there's an email address to mail the entry to'.18:25
Pali~seen X-Fade18:31
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painteresting netview bug: if you reboot without closing it, and you left "dont blank the screen", after reboot the phone wont blank the screen :)18:33
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Paliwhere is X-Fade?18:42
Venemohow can one refresh the theme cache on harmattan?18:52
VenemoI mean, icon cache18:53
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payou mean the desktop icons?19:02
Venemothe notification icons. I needed a reboot for them to take effect...19:03
pahm.. i dont know about that, but i n9tweaks do something called in another way, that is not a reboot. maybe that can refresh those icons19:08
Venemowhat did it do?19:09
pai think it's called a "refresh" or something like that19:12
paat least that's how n9quicktweak calls it19:12
Venemook, but how exactly does it do it?19:12
pa"Some tweaks need refresh or reboot and if you want to use more tweaks in the same session, just put this letters at the end. Or use what you want, but don't refresh them until the end of the session."19:13
panot sure, but the whole thing seems to be a bihg script, so probably you can download and check it out19:13
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Venemothx pa19:22
panp :)19:22
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VenemoVenemo_N9, ping19:31
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VenemoZogG_laptop, pin19:33
VenemoZogG_laptop, ping19:33
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infobotextra, extra, read all about it, irc-chatter is IRC Chatter, the official IRC client of Nemo and also best IRC client for Harmattan, authored by Venemo. Download it from
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Venemohey hey19:43
VenemoZogG_N9, :)19:43
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ZogG_N9ping 3g19:46
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ZogG_laptopZogG_N9_, ping19:52
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ZogG_laptopZogG_laptop, ping19:56
ZogG_laptopZogG_N9_, ping19:56
ZogG_laptopZogG_N9,  ping19:56
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ZogG_laptopok it works on LPM :P19:56
ZogG_laptopnice icon btw19:56
ZogG_laptopin status menu it works as well19:57
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