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| heymaster | hello. just saw contest result. as i though haven't win. thank you all for help in this channel :) | 00:31 |
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| beford | hey | 00:33 |
| heymaster | hi | 00:33 |
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| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: wanted to ask you about cooling systems of PC assuming you know a lot about it, but going to sleep soon. so maybe tomorrow | 01:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ice cubes? | 01:01 |
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| SpeedEvil | ice cubes are the best solution. | 01:23 |
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| merlin1991 | ice cubes directly on the cpu | 02:36 |
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| Dante_J | Hi all | 03:37 |
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| djszapi_ | beford: heyo | 05:06 |
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| Dante_J | hi djszapi_ | 05:09 |
| djszapi_ | hi | 05:10 |
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| Dante_J | Just wanted to thank all the awesome people developing for Harmattan, and for the help provided in my migration from N900 to N9 | 05:12 |
| djszapi_ | :) | 05:12 |
| Dante_J | the fcam app called 'rawcam' looks very similar to Bless, minus HDR. I'll be buying it as I appreciate the developers work. | 05:13 |
| Dante_J | Deep down I do hope that CSSU can one day come to Harmattan | 05:14 |
| Dante_J | . | 05:18 |
| Dante_J | Any way to Switch wifi on/off while not impacting on phone reception, similar to this app on Maemo? http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/wifi-switcher/ | 05:20 |
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| Dante_J | How difficult is it to port Maemo apps to Harmattan? I'm thinking specifically of Orrery : http://wiki.maemo.org/Orrery : https://github.com/kenyoung/orrery | 07:32 |
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| ladoga | is qmltube/cutetube-qml still being developed?? | 09:33 |
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| ladoga | I am asking because playing/downloading youtube videos hasn't worked on my device for last few days | 09:36 |
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| ladoga | probably something changed on youtube's side | 09:36 |
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| ladoga | or maybe if here are others using qmltube they can confirm if youtube works or not | 09:40 |
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| ladoga | Dante_J: yes, rawcam is very nice. I guess I will buy it too | 09:45 |
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| Dante_J | ladoga, sorry I can't be of assistance re: qmltube. i don't have it installed | 09:45 |
| ladoga | only issue with rawcam that I have is the video overlay bug | 09:47 |
| ladoga | and it doesnt matter that much as there's a workaround | 09:48 |
| Dante_J | ladoga, have you done any development of apps for Harmattan? | 09:51 |
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| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer06: | 10:16 |
| ZogG_laptop | ping | 10:16 |
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| djszapi | rzr: heyo | 13:08 |
| djszapi | it would be nice to get a package for a cli based pastebin engine util | 13:08 |
| djszapi | wgetpaste, curlpaste, etc what not | 13:08 |
| djszapi | at least one | 13:08 |
| djszapi | it would be quite handy from scratchbox! | 13:09 |
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| lbt | djszapi: yes, cobs accounts still 'on-demand' | 13:21 |
| djszapi | lbt: is there any precondition like meego account somewhere else? | 13:22 |
| lbt | yes - register an account on www.meeego.com | 13:22 |
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| rzr | djszapi, hi | 14:45 |
| rzr | i just mv libxcursor | 14:46 |
| rzr | pixman | 14:46 |
| rzr | to h:r:unstable | 14:46 |
| rzr | they're overlap builders ones | 14:46 |
| rzr | this is trigered some rebuild | 14:46 |
| rzr | lets hope no regression will happend | 14:46 |
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| rzr | djszapi, i am unsure now | 15:03 |
| rzr | reverted xcursor | 15:05 |
| rzr | but mv pixman | 15:05 |
| rzr | but mv pixmap | 15:05 |
| rzr | i wait for now... | 15:06 |
| rzr | later | 15:06 |
| djszapi | ok :-) | 15:08 |
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| djszapi | rzr: seems you have triggered a lot of rebuilds.. | 15:39 |
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| vladest | is there is a way to deploy my own qt components for harmattan with my app? | 16:39 |
| djszapi | why wouldn't be? | 16:39 |
| djszapi | it is the usual way of shipping your feature with your bundled package :-) | 16:41 |
| vladest | ok, thanks | 16:43 |
| djszapi | vladest: what components do you have? | 16:45 |
| djszapi | if I may ask; perhaps it is reusable for others. | 16:45 |
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| vladest | djszapi: I want to bundle latest components from harmattan-qt-components repo | 16:46 |
| vladest | it looks freshier | 16:46 |
| vladest | since I have some issues with one, bundled with PR1.3 | 16:46 |
| djszapi | vladest: oh, that is my fork. :p | 16:47 |
| djszapi | it only works with Qt5. | 16:47 |
| vladest | djszapi: but there is version 1.3 of meego components, while its lover on device | 16:49 |
| CissWit | a/win zu | 16:50 |
| CissWit | sorry, i keep failing today | 16:50 |
| djszapi | vladest: I do not know much about the original repository and its branches. | 16:51 |
| djszapi | when I forked the project into the harmattan-qt-components project, my intention was that to bring the components to qtquick2. | 16:51 |
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| rzr | djszapi: gtk will build now | 17:06 |
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| djszapi | rzr: great | 17:11 |
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| rzr | was hard to solve | 17:12 |
| rzr | but i think i managed to | 17:12 |
| rzr | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=gtk%2B2.0&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan%3Atesting | 17:12 |
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| djszapi | rzr: we are screwed. | 18:11 |
| djszapi | qt5 does not build anymore on the c-obs. | 18:11 |
| djszapi | and it will not do so until a qemu upgrade. | 18:11 |
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| rzr | djszapi: how comes ? | 18:18 |
| djszapi | rzr: the google v8 (qt5-jsbackend) stuff crashes | 18:19 |
| djszapi | it is a valid jit arm code, but qemu is buggy; that is all. | 18:19 |
| rzr | no known workaround ? | 18:21 |
| djszapi | there is ... slowing down the qt applications. | 18:21 |
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| djszapi | as the jit is disabled and will not speed up the qt applications runtime. | 18:22 |
| djszapi | which I imagine almost everybody would hate. | 18:22 |
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| rzr | this sucks | 18:22 |
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| djszapi | yes because we do not control our build farm | 18:24 |
| djszapi | same problem again, again, and again... | 18:24 |
| djszapi | when we need to change things, we are incapable of... | 18:25 |
| djszapi | *sighs* | 18:25 |
| rzr | this should be mentionned in next meeting | 18:27 |
| djszapi | I mentioned tons of problems zillion times | 18:28 |
| djszapi | I am tired of it. | 18:28 |
| djszapi | I will just give the contribution now for this. | 18:28 |
| djszapi | there will be no qt5 from side proceeding. | 18:28 |
| lbt | hey djszapi, rzr | 18:28 |
| rzr | hi lbt | 18:28 |
| lbt | back now | 18:28 |
| lbt | just catching some backlog | 18:29 |
| lbt | you know all of this is under your control | 18:29 |
| rzr | qemu versions ? | 18:29 |
| lbt | yes | 18:29 |
| rzr | savior saves | 18:29 |
| djszapi | well, x-fade told me previously when he updated the qemu versions on the server | 18:30 |
| djszapi | which I was not able to do myself back then as it was always done by x-fade | 18:30 |
| djszapi | there must be a log somewhere for that. | 18:30 |
| rzr | this mean we can setup our target w/ a regular account ? | 18:30 |
| lbt | rzr: yes, for sure - *especially* with sb2 | 18:30 |
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| lbt | using the very old cross approach (mer 0.17 time) needed server access | 18:31 |
| rzr | interessing | 18:31 |
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| rzr | and it will build on the current workers , or can it be expended with ours ? | 18:32 |
| djszapi | please no sb2 on Harmattan... | 18:32 |
| admiral0 | hello | 18:33 |
| admiral0 | djszapi: wanna lol? | 18:33 |
| djszapi | it is a different way of how we are building packages and what the official supported way is/was. | 18:33 |
| djszapi | admiral0: yes :) | 18:33 |
| admiral0 | echo 1 > /sys/devices/omapdss/display0/lpm | 18:33 |
| admiral0 | :D | 18:33 |
| djszapi | admiral0: only Windows XP 2002 in front of me, and I am not a psftp guru :) | 18:33 |
| djszapi | will check this evening. | 18:33 |
| admiral0 | echo 0 > /sys/devices/omapdss/display0/lpm # to disable | 18:34 |
| djszapi | or I can try on the console if it does not break? | 18:34 |
| admiral0 | it's on the n9 | 18:34 |
| admiral0 | i figured out how the low power mode is enabled | 18:34 |
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| admiral0 | :D | 18:34 |
| admiral0 | Sfiet_Konstantin: ping | 18:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | admiral0: pong | 18:36 |
| admiral0 | Sfiet_Konstantin: i've seen your lockscreen for the N9/N950 | 18:37 |
| admiral0 | and had a "crazy" idea | 18:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | say it to me (or as a bug report on the sourceforge), but sorry, I don't have that much time these days | 18:37 |
| admiral0 | want to unify lpsmagic and the lockscreen | 18:37 |
| admiral0 | so users can have fully customizeable lockscreen widgets + low power screen | 18:38 |
| admiral0 | i figured how to enable 8bit mode on the device | 18:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah, indeed a good crazy idea | 18:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | like all maemo folks have | 18:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I love it | 18:39 |
| admiral0 | ok | 18:39 |
| djszapi | rzr: have you understood how to update qemu from the above discussion? | 18:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | if you have code on the 8 bits, push it on a git repo | 18:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm open to look at it | 18:39 |
| admiral0 | it's more difficult | 18:39 |
| rzr | djszapi: not really did you ? | 18:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or take the code from widgets and look at it | 18:39 |
| admiral0 | i'll clone on my github and try to unify with lpsmagic 2 alpha | 18:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm just a bit nervous about my semester now | 18:40 |
| djszapi | no, and it would be nice if it was a "I wanna update qemu with a command" effort. | 18:40 |
| admiral0 | Sfiet_Konstantin: don't tell me | 18:40 |
| admiral0 | -.- | 18:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :( | 18:40 |
| djszapi | just like when you update this in your environment. | 18:40 |
| djszapi | rzr: but in short, the Qt5 Harmattan project is now blocked until a qemu update. | 18:40 |
| admiral0 | i have to migrate everything back to qmake -.- | 18:41 |
| rzr | ack | 18:41 |
| djszapi | and this is nothing we can do upstream in the Qt Project | 18:41 |
| djszapi | we can make the build work with losing lots of performance | 18:41 |
| admiral0 | Sfiet_Konstantin: latest code is on gitorious? | 18:42 |
| rzr | 17:40 < djszapi> we can make the build work with losing lots of performance | 18:42 |
| rzr | today that's what we should do | 18:42 |
| djszapi | not really. | 18:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yep, I think that latest code of widgets is in master branch | 18:42 |
| rzr | before we learn how to upgrade qemu | 18:42 |
| djszapi | nobody will use a tad slow Qt5. | 18:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I push often | 18:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you might want to clone 1.1 instead | 18:42 |
| rzr | or setup a new infra ... | 18:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or use 1.1 tag and work on it | 18:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | 1.0.1 | 18:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sorry | 18:42 |
| Elleo | admiral0: nice, its a shame there isn't a service for handling the low power screen switch that doesn't require root access though | 18:43 |
| djszapi | well one would need to learn 1) qemu version 2) how to identify "I am building now on Qemu" 3) How to change configure in the Qt Project 4) Long bikeshed discussion | 18:43 |
| Elleo | it'd be nice to make erudite, fbreader, etc. able to use the low power display for reading books | 18:43 |
| djszapi | 5) Finally having a tad slow Qt5 | 18:43 |
| djszapi | in comparison with that, we can update qemu and it will jsut work. | 18:43 |
| djszapi | just* | 18:43 |
| admiral0 | Elleo: look at /etc/init/xsession/sysuid.conf | 18:43 |
| rzr | it's up to you | 18:43 |
| djszapi | I will not work on any of t hose | 18:44 |
| djszapi | the council got me lost my interest improving this project anyway :) | 18:44 |
| admiral0 | bbl | 18:44 |
| admiral0 | bye | 18:44 |
| rzr | this is not in my plan today | 18:44 |
| djszapi | people need to stand up for this role. | 18:44 |
| admiral0 | thanks Sfiet_Konstantin for the awesome project | 18:44 |
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| rzr | *shrung | 18:45 |
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| piggz | meh, i didnt come close to winning the comp (tho i didnt really expect to, its quite niche) ... will have to start adding features now | 21:18 |
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| bjoernfan | So... is this a good place for newbie dev questions? :) | 22:50 |
| rzr | sure | 22:50 |
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| bjoernfan | I've just installed scratchbox and the Harmattan SDK. I've got Xephyr running and all. Found an app on github I wanted to check out as a sample before I make any app of my own, MeegoSMSBackupRestore. Looks got, got it installed and everything, but um... I can't find any messaging app... at all... | 22:53 |
| bjoernfan | It feels like I'm missing something obvious. | 22:53 |
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| bjoernfan | I've got Mail, Contacts, Gallery and stuff. | 22:53 |
| bjoernfan | For the record I'm getting my N9 tomorrow. | 22:53 |
| bjoernfan | So... what's it called? Can I get it from apt? | 22:54 |
| bjoernfan | I'm finding a few meegotouch packages, but no sms app, what I can tell. | 22:55 |
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