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| timmay | connected my N9 to my laptop and transferred a few folders containing pics (all jpegs). i put the folders into the 'Pictures' folder but when i go to 'Gallery' there are no pics? i also copied the same folders to the 'DCIM' folder, but no luck there either. what am i doing wrong? | 00:18 |
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| rashm2k | you need to give it some time to read the files and build the thumbnails I guess? | 00:26 |
| rashm2k | restart phone | 00:26 |
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| timmay | both folders (DCIM and Pictures) should see and display the pics, correct? | 00:29 |
| timmay | just restarted phone. Gallery show's 'No items' | 00:30 |
| rashm2k | I noticed my video doesn't show in the gallery even if I dump it in the dcim folder | 00:32 |
| rashm2k | not sure then | 00:33 |
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| djszapi_ | rzr: do you know how to update qemu? | 02:07 |
| djszapi_ | I did not get it understood during the daytime. | 02:08 |
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| Dante_J | Greetings all | 02:08 |
| Dante_J | I found this of interest: Jolla’s MeeGo revival plans shape up with $260m ecosystem alliance : http://www.iotechie.com/nokia-2/jollas-meego-revival-plans-shape-up-with-260m-ecosystem-alliance/ | 02:11 |
| Dante_J | And for those who would like to do a Meego / Harmattan presentation in Canberra in January, submit something to this: http://mobilefoss.collaborynth.com.au/Call-For-Papers | 02:12 |
| djszapi_ | Dante_J: do they support the traveling costs for the speakers? | 02:16 |
| Elleo | djszapi_: from what I can tell its a sub-conference at linuxconf.au, which does have a travel fund for speakers (don't know if that extends to speakers at sub-conferences like mobilefoss though) | 02:19 |
| djszapi_ | I would like to talk about KDE Mobile. | 02:20 |
| djszapi_ | it would be good to have at least someone to represent KDE. | 02:20 |
| djszapi_ | unsure if my company can support me. | 02:21 |
| djszapi_ | It is fairly costly to fly there from Europe, but I would love it if I can find supporters. | 02:21 |
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| djszapi_ | Elleo: Dante_J I will submit a talk this weekend. | 02:26 |
| djszapi_ | what is the deadline? | 02:26 |
| djszapi_ | and when can I get a notification about the accept/reject decision? | 02:26 |
| Dante_J | djszapi - That's a miniconf as part of lca2013 | 02:26 |
| Dante_J | I suspect they don't have a travel budget, but ask them | 02:26 |
| djszapi_ | that is bad, but ok. | 02:27 |
| djszapi_ | I think it would be ~2000 EUR for me to fly there and back. | 02:27 |
| Dante_J | indeed, but there will be lots of people from Europe and the US there. https://lca2013.linux.org.au/about/linux.conf.au | 02:27 |
| djszapi_ | perhaps could get along with ~1500 EUR. | 02:27 |
| Dante_J | But be sure to ask djszapi | 02:28 |
| djszapi_ | sure, I mean I cannot pay this myself. | 02:28 |
| djszapi_ | if they wish the have a representative from KDE Mobile, I am all for it. | 02:28 |
| Dante_J | I can imagine | 02:28 |
| Dante_J | :) | 02:28 |
| djszapi_ | and I think KDE is not something negligible :) | 02:28 |
| Dante_J | Agreed | 02:28 |
| djszapi_ | so I have some hope this is a sellable idea. | 02:28 |
| djszapi_ | win-win for both of us. | 02:29 |
| djszapi_ | will ask them. | 02:29 |
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| djszapi_ | I can send them aKademy and FOSDEM reference talks about KDE Mobile et al :) | 02:29 |
| Dante_J | The miniconfs are on the Monday & Tuesday. Conf proper starts Wednesday and goes till Friday | 02:29 |
| djszapi_ | it is ok. | 02:29 |
| Dante_J | please do djszapi | 02:29 |
| djszapi_ | I would be there for the whole week. | 02:29 |
| djszapi_ | apartment payment can be covered by my company | 02:30 |
| Dante_J | https://lca2013.linux.org.au/programme/miniconfs | 02:30 |
| djszapi_ | that is not a problem. | 02:30 |
| Dante_J | cool | 02:30 |
| djszapi_ | I just need to get there and back. :) | 02:30 |
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| Dante_J | so djszapi, would you be willing to assist a Maemo developer get started in Meego so as to port his exiting app across? | 02:31 |
| Dante_J | I suspect you're most familiar with QT and related dev environment | 02:32 |
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| djszapi_ | if it is KDE, yes. | 02:35 |
| djszapi_ | if not, not much, I am afraid. | 02:35 |
| djszapi_ | I am mostly focused on KDE needs. | 02:35 |
| djszapi_ | that is already a very huge area for me to cover. :) | 02:36 |
| djszapi_ | I can give some general hints if there are troubles. | 02:36 |
| djszapi_ | but I cannot guarantee a full mentoring along the way. | 02:37 |
| Dante_J | Where should he start? Which dev kit? | 02:37 |
| djszapi_ | if it is just an application, probably QtCreator is the best way to go. | 02:38 |
| djszapi_ | Dante_J: will you be at this conference? | 02:41 |
| Dante_J | djszapi I expect so, yes | 02:41 |
| djszapi_ | are you from that area? | 02:44 |
| djszapi_ | Dante_J: abstract length is not specified | 02:48 |
| djszapi_ | oh the conference entrance is not for free either? :) | 02:49 |
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| Dante_J | djszapi, I live in Australia. Canberra is over 1000km from me | 02:51 |
| djszapi_ | I can make it as a volunteer though. | 02:51 |
| beford | hi djszapi_ | 02:51 |
| djszapi_ | beford: heyo | 02:51 |
| Dante_J | yes lca is not free, but speakers can attend at no cost. Send all your questions to this fellow, who is running that Miniconf: https://twitter.com/purserj | 02:53 |
| djszapi_ | ok, great, but I can also volunteer. | 02:53 |
| Dante_J | indeed, that's a good idea | 02:53 |
| djszapi_ | I have been a volunteer for two aKademies. | 02:53 |
| djszapi_ | I am familiar with the activities ongoing. | 02:54 |
| Dante_J | cool | 02:54 |
| djszapi_ | unsure if they have more people for volunteering as work though. | 02:54 |
| Dante_J | From the horses mouth : https://twitter.com/purserj/status/253077276156108800 | 02:54 |
| djszapi_ | I have to say that there are other miniconfs as well | 02:55 |
| djszapi_ | which I find interesting, not just the mobile section. | 02:55 |
| Dante_J | the whole conference is very interesting | 02:55 |
| Dante_J | I've been to each one since 2002 | 02:55 |
| Dante_J | Its one of the best FOSS conferences on the planet. Tech, not commercial | 02:56 |
| Dante_J | Prices: https://lca2013.linux.org.au/register/prices | 02:58 |
| djszapi_ | yes, that is where I realized it is not for free. | 03:00 |
| djszapi_ | I have just submitted a volunteering form. | 03:00 |
| djszapi_ | not sure how long stuff I should submit for the talk. | 03:01 |
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| djszapi_ | https://archive.fosdem.org/2012/schedule/event/deep_dive_into_kde_mobile_development.html -> is it something like that enough? | 03:01 |
| djszapi_ | http://akademy2012.kde.org/node/26 -> or like this? | 03:02 |
| Dante_J | djszapi ask purserj that question in twitter, or in #linux.conf.au here on Freenode | 03:02 |
| djszapi_ | do not use twitter :-) | 03:02 |
| djszapi_ | I think social media kills privacy. :) | 03:02 |
| Dante_J | then #linux.conf.au it is :) | 03:02 |
| beford | hey djszapi_, do you know if its possible to use onPressAndHold on an empty ListView? seems like I always need to have an item in the list | 03:13 |
| ieatlint | djszapi, that's a reason to use twitter to monitor others, but not say anything | 03:20 |
| ieatlint | it makes people forget your reading | 03:20 |
| ieatlint | ... i'll get back to you on why this is a good thing | 03:20 |
| djszapi_ | except that you get the spams ... | 03:23 |
| djszapi_ | and when it is not a spam, it can also be too much after quite a few mailing lists :) | 03:26 |
| ieatlint | i've got not spam | 03:27 |
| ieatlint | and i use google mail, so it covers 99% of spam issues for me | 03:27 |
| ieatlint | also, heat waves where my office gets up to 33c in october just suck | 03:29 |
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| djszapi_ | ieatlint: well to me facebook, twitter and so forth are not any different. | 03:37 |
| djszapi_ | time waste most of the time, and I would not like to lose my privacy either. | 03:37 |
| djszapi_ | Dante_J: talk proposal submitted. | 03:38 |
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| djszapi_ | beford: I presume you can do such an action with at least one item. | 03:38 |
| djszapi_ | otherwise it would be hard. :-) | 03:38 |
| beford | djszapi_: yea :/ I was trying to use the onpressandhold to show a menu and "filter" the list, sometimes it gets empty so the menu can't be shown again | 03:39 |
| beford | I guess i'll have to add another button to the Toolbar | 03:39 |
| djszapi_ | good night | 03:39 |
| beford | night | 03:40 |
| ieatlint | night | 03:41 |
| Dante_J | djszapi - I hope your talk is accepted! | 03:42 |
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| admiral0 | hi | 09:47 |
| Dante_J | hi admiral0 | 09:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hi admiral0 | 09:52 |
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| rzr | djszapi, hi rebuilt is finished | 10:10 |
| rzr | djszapi, one free Nokia Windows Phone as soon as they become available | 10:10 |
| rzr | err | 10:10 |
| rzr | djszapi, did u get one ? | 10:10 |
| rzr | djszapi, https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?arch_armv7el=1&defaults=0&failed=1&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repo_MeeGo_1_2_Harmattan_Maemo_org_MeeGo_1_2_Harmattan_standard=1 | 10:10 |
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| djszapi | rzr: yeah, but I sold it. | 10:50 |
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| anthony_dev | guys, how I can use multitouch? it seems that qml widgets doesnt work in multitouch mode. any suggestion? | 11:32 |
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| thedead1440_ | Hi all, | 11:43 |
| thedead1440_ | I've an issue with the Documents app on the n9! It opens PDF and Office 2003 formats fine but trying to open a Office 2007 format file makes the splash screen appear and dis-appear...I've reinstalled libkok, calligrameego, calligra-kchart and office-tools but to no avail. Anybody has any tips on what else can be re-installed to fix this issue? I've started a thread at TMO too at http://talk.maemo. | 11:43 |
| thedead1440_ | org/showthread.php?p=1275728 however no note-worthy response so far. | 11:44 |
| thedead1440_ | Thanks in advance for help! | 11:44 |
| vladest | onTextChanged in TextField component works only when press enter on harmattan. sucks | 11:44 |
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| khertan | vladest: do not try to force emit it, it ll mess swype keyboard :) | 11:59 |
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| Lava_Croft | Anyone here using latest version of Billboard in conjuction with Meecast? | 12:12 |
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| Lava_Croft | what | 12:26 |
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| anthony_dev | I'll ask again: guys, how I can use multitouch? it seems that qml widgets doesnt work in multitouch mode. any suggestion? | 13:39 |
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| djszapi | rzr: updated qemu? | 17:16 |
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| djszapi | rzr: I think we could establish a rapsberry group on gitorious | 17:24 |
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| djszapi | rzr: created, wanna join for maintainance? | 17:28 |
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| djszapi | rzr: https://gitorious.org/+qtonpi | 17:28 |
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| heymaster | any reason to buy used N9? | 19:32 |
| heymaster | or wait for 5th edition iPod touch ? :P | 19:33 |
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| Tronic | heymaster: Should I buy a motor cycle or a van? | 19:37 |
| djszapi | jpnurmi: I would need a harmattan relevant change for review in the qt project | 19:37 |
| Tronic | Depends on what you need and quite possibly you need both or neither. They do not really perform the same function. | 19:37 |
| djszapi | jpnurmi: https://gist.github.com/3828153 -> is it something acceptable? | 19:38 |
| djszapi | jpnurmi: qt5-jsbackend does not currently build on the community obs and in sb2 as those environments do not have the _SBOX_DIR defined. | 19:38 |
| heymaster | Tronic: to try something to develop.. | 19:38 |
| jpnurmi | djszapi: looks like something for ossi ;) | 19:39 |
| Tronic | heymaster: Why would you develop for the N9? It's a dead platform. | 19:39 |
| djszapi | jpnurmi: he does not care about harmattan | 19:39 |
| Tronic | (well, okay, there are people who still develop software for the Commodore 64) | 19:39 |
| djszapi | in addition, he is on vacation now. | 19:39 |
| djszapi | and this is a build blocker type issue. | 19:39 |
| ladoga | platform isn't dead as long as someone is using it:) | 19:40 |
| djszapi | ladoga: +1 | 19:40 |
| Tronic | I don't consider it sensible to develop software for platforms for which you can no longer buy new devices. | 19:40 |
| njsf | And can even ressurect | 19:40 |
| djszapi | Tronic: except that some people have these devices. | 19:40 |
| Tronic | The ones in use will die. | 19:40 |
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| ladoga | Tronic: yes, each has his own reasons | 19:41 |
| Tronic | I have these devices and yes, I might even do some small fixes and I appreciate it when people still publish software for this but still I don't really see the sense in that. | 19:41 |
| djszapi | who cares? | 19:41 |
| djszapi | if you do not see? | 19:41 |
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| djszapi | it is enough if they see, and it makes them happy. | 19:41 |
| djszapi | like me. | 19:41 |
| djszapi | fwiw, there are still Symbian and Fremantle contributors. I am actually happy they do something they enjoy. | 19:42 |
| heymaster | Can i run Linux apps on N9? | 19:45 |
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| heymaster | My friend showed NetBeans on N900 .. on N9 it's possible? | 19:46 |
| ladoga | heymaster: n9 is a linux computer, no? | 19:46 |
| djszapi | ladoga: no | 19:46 |
| djszapi | heymaster: you can port it if you wish, but why would you run that directly on n9? | 19:46 |
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| heymaster | don't know but it's impressive to see NetBeans on phone.because platform has full Linux not like Android | 19:48 |
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| ladoga | djszapi: it has linux kernel and userland so why do you say no? | 19:49 |
| djszapi | heymaster: it is not "full linux" if you mean full as vanilla. | 19:49 |
| djszapi | ladoga: because it does not actually have linux, but a forked version? | 19:49 |
| djszapi | in addition, it is not like a linux computer, but actually quite the opposite in terms of security. | 19:49 |
| ladoga | ~ $ uname -a | 19:50 |
| ladoga | Linux rm696 2.6.32.54-dfl61-20121301 #1 PREEMPT Mon Apr 2 14:14:32 EEST 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux | 19:50 |
| ladoga | seem linux to me | 19:50 |
| djszapi | ok, you know better than we who worked on the kernel xD | 19:51 |
| ladoga | sure it's noy vanilla kernel | 19:51 |
| ladoga | not | 19:51 |
| ladoga | i guess we just differ on definition | 19:51 |
| djszapi | no | 19:51 |
| djszapi | it is not linux, it is harmattan. | 19:51 |
| heymaster | lol :) | 19:52 |
| djszapi | as android is not linux, but android. | 19:52 |
| ladoga | android runs it's its own vm, right? | 19:53 |
| ladoga | in it's | 19:53 |
| heymaster | maybe you talking about whole distribution, not kernel. so you i need to write gnu/linux :p | 19:53 |
| djszapi | try to report Harmattan kernel issues to the linux kernel mailing list | 19:53 |
| ladoga | ok ok | 19:53 |
| djszapi | but do not be surprise if you get quite off topic :D | 19:53 |
| ladoga | i give up | 19:53 |
| djszapi | surprised* | 19:53 |
| djszapi | and they will tell it to you. | 19:54 |
| ladoga | anyway i can use lots of software that i use on my desktop (debian) on my n9 too | 19:54 |
| djszapi | the harmattan kernel is not linux, not maintained by Linus by any possible means and so forth. | 19:54 |
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| heymaster | so they forked linux ... :) | 19:54 |
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| djszapi | yes, we did. | 19:54 |
| ladoga | i can take deb packages from debian, rebuild them in scratchbox and it works | 19:54 |
| njsf | Like Android and most other embedded vendors | 19:55 |
| djszapi | yes, and there are packages which do not work ... | 19:55 |
| djszapi | so what? | 19:55 |
| njsf | eventually they may sync up | 19:55 |
| djszapi | heymaster: anyways, I do not think there is too much interest in netbeans as the practice shows, but sure, do not get depressed, go ahead and port :D | 19:55 |
| njsf | but rarely the shipped bits are stock kernel | 19:55 |
| heymaster | djszapi: cool :) | 19:55 |
| djszapi | no, we have not sync'ed up. | 19:56 |
| djszapi | we may have backported 1-2 patches but a sync'up is a royal pita. | 19:56 |
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| njsf | but it is FOSS civics 101 ;) | 19:57 |
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| ladoga | what would be disadvantage of using vanilla kernel in a smartphone? i mean wouldn't it be smarter to send patches upstream if needed | 20:01 |
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| djszapi | of course not. | 20:03 |
| djszapi | if you are a company, you do not have time to fight with upstream. | 20:03 |
| djszapi | when you have strict deadlines. | 20:03 |
| djszapi | you really do not ever wanna pay the penalties because few folks toughts it is not a cool idea in their projects. | 20:05 |
| djszapi | thought* | 20:05 |
| ladoga | I'm not a developer so I'm quite clueless about these things | 20:05 |
| ladoga | i would just want to have a computer that works as a smart phone :) | 20:05 |
| djszapi | so in short: you wanna dictate what your product is when the customer needs the features. | 20:06 |
| ladoga | i guess that would be possible if hardware was commodity..like in PCs | 20:06 |
| djszapi | and you do not wanna get dictated by upstream how your product should look like. | 20:06 |
| ladoga | and i could just install whatever OS I chose to the phone | 20:06 |
| djszapi | complain to your debian folks they did not make up a useful system for Harmattan yet. | 20:07 |
| djszapi | :-) | 20:07 |
| ladoga | :) | 20:07 |
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| ladoga | I'm not complaining here | 20:07 |
| djszapi | useful system for N9/N950 yet* | 20:08 |
| ladoga | very happy with N9 actually | 20:08 |
| djszapi | since that it would not obviously be Haramttan. | 20:08 |
| djszapi | Harmattan* | 20:08 |
| ladoga | as it is | 20:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | pong | 21:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wazzup? | 21:54 |
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| djszapi | rzr: I have a patch for stuff | 22:33 |
| djszapi | just need to find someone in the Qt Project to approve it. | 22:33 |
| djszapi | ossi is still on vacation. | 22:33 |
| rashm2k | any idea how to setup n9 'kit' on qt creator 2.5 beta? | 22:44 |
| rzr | djszapi, great | 22:47 |
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