IRC log of #harmattan for Monday, 2012-10-01

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rzrdjszapi, typo
rzrdjszapi, snap*S*hot02:17
njsfdoes anybody know the dpkg "magic" to list the "stock" packages ?02:23
njsfI am trying to write a simple script to do do a dpkg-repack of all non-stock (ie not obtainable from a reflash) packages02:23
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rzrdpkg -L02:29
rzrdpkg-query --list02:30
rzrnjsf, tell me if repack work as expected02:30
njsfrzr: that gives ALL packages02:30
njsfI want to be able to NOT repackage the stock ones02:31
rzrdo them all , you'll sort them later :)02:31
njsfNot with my space on MyDocs :)02:31
rzrjust make the list and skip them02:32
rzrthis will do the trick02:32
njsfThat is what I asked02:32
njsfhow do I get the list of the system packages02:33
rzrdpkg-query --list02:33
rzrreflash before02:33
njsfNope, not willing to reflash02:33
njsftoo much pain02:33
rzrlook for those in Section: user/*02:33
njsflets see02:34
njsfthanks rzr02:48
njsfthat does seem indeed to be proper02:48
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njsfhmmm actually it does miss a couple02:49
njsflike sqlit302:49
njsfbut those are few and far between02:49
njsfgood enough to work02:49
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rzri can help to add them02:51
njsfthere must be a virtual package for the pr no?02:56
rzryes they are02:57
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djszapi_beford: heyo07:45
befordhi djszapi_07:48
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paso with caldav its not possible to sync local calendar to gmail, but only other way around?10:43
pai just crashed my phone10:45
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paanyone syncing calendars here?10:54
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susundbe1gpa: i use only google calender on my phone and sync that automatically10:58
pasusundbe1g, do you use mfe or caldav?10:58
susundbe1gand with DavID, not the other ways10:58
susundbe1gcaldav that was, tahnks10:59
paah ok10:59
pai tried to set it up10:59
susundbe1git works even with shared calenders, yey10:59
pabut it seems i dont see, on google calendar, the events i have on my phone10:59
paso it seems that it doesnt push what i add locally to the cloud10:59
susundbe1gno, you will have to specify what calender you add the event to -- if you add it to your phone local calender then surely it will not get synced with the google-calender11:00
pathat sucks..11:00
pai thought it was synced11:00
pagood to know, though :)11:00
paany simple way to move all my past events to to the google calendar?11:00
susundbe1g.. but you can set the google calender as the default calender, in which case everything (except your current events that are not synched )  works fine11:01
susundbe1gdont know, i would try to explore some 'export' option, but really no idea11:01
paok thanks :)11:01
susundbe1g(and btw: i did not notice the small 'arrow down' item when adding calendar event that allows you to choose to which calender to add this event)11:03
susundbe1g(after finding that my life got better ;)11:03
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paok so now im doing it by hand, with that very arrow11:09
pachanging the calendar for each evetnt11:09
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pasusundbe1g, where do you set caldav calendar as the default one? :)11:30
pa(ps now that i changed all the events, it syncs :))11:30
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pathis will improve my life quality :)11:32
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susundbe1gpa: yey11:36
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ZogG_laptopbeford: ping12:01
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ZogG_laptopbeford: add me to jabber already :P12:34
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer05: ping12:37
HurrianI just realized that people can get creative with the unused 256MB space on the OneNAND.12:38
Hurrianalternative mini-OS, anyone?12:38
ZogG_laptopit's unused?12:39
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ZogG_laptopminios? or the boot menu with rescue miniOS? :P12:39
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Hurrianit was supposed to be for mtdswap, but the N9 thankfully got gobs and gobs of RAM, so Nokia used ramz instead.12:39
HurrianTool OS?12:40
HurrianN9 Maintenance Mode.12:40
ZogG_laptopfreedos :P12:41
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Hurrianwith 256 MB uncompressed to play with, you can do way better than that12:41
ZogG_laptopWinMe is da best12:42
Hurrian95 can do a 200MB install just fine.12:42
ZogG_laptopWinMe or Vista12:43
ZogG_laptopHurrian: we can put emulator to run the metro fake app from CC :)12:43
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Hurrian2000 can be stripped down to under 200MB.12:43
ZogG_laptopdo you have arm version12:44
Hurrian2000's source is out, so you /can/ make one12:44
ZogG_laptopHurrian: we can use only BSoD12:44
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ZogG_laptopM4rtinK: hey12:55
ZogG_laptopM4rtinK: u won right?12:55
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M4rtinKZogG_laptop: yeah, seems like it :)13:09
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M4rtinKZogG_laptop: IIRC, you mentioned you will vote for modRana13:10
M4rtinKZogG_laptop: so thanks for your vote ! :)13:10
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ZogG_laptopM4rtinK: voted for both13:23
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M4rtinKZogG_laptop:2xThanks ! :)13:32
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vladestgot pink n9 :)14:39
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ZogG_laptopvladest: :)14:45
vladestin addition to blue one14:46
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Lava_Croftok, after using the N900 for a day again, after months of N9, one thing is for sure14:53
Lava_CroftN9 battery is like God compared to N900, i almost forgot about this14:53
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Codename-StrikeLava_Croft: How long does a continuous use of N9 last for a day?14:54
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Lava_CroftIt lasts a day with all my audio streaming over 2g/3g14:55
Lava_Croftquite a bit longer than the N900 too14:55
Lava_CroftOf course, the N9 is also a more grown up Maemo system, so it figures14:55
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Codename-StrikeAudio streaming with screen on or off?15:08
Codename-StrikeBecause I frequently stream while browsing15:09
Codename-StrikeOkay, not so much stream, but if the battery can handle 3g + music playing (local or streaming) well15:09
Lava_Croftscreen off15:09
Codename-StrikeI might consider getting myself a unit15:09
Lava_Crofti stream with kmplayer or mplayer cli15:09
Codename-StrikeOkay, screen off. Figures15:09
Lava_CroftWell, get the N9 anyway15:09
Lava_Croftits the N900, only made for people that want a smartphone and not a mobile computer15:10
Lava_Croftits basically still the same, even tho its really not:)15:10
Codename-StrikeJokingly, I I'd drop any interest I had for it15:10
Lava_Croft(and its the most beautiful mobile phone i ever had)15:10
Codename-Strikehad "for people who wants a smartphone and not a mobile computer" been mentioned.15:11
Codename-StrikeBut I must be fair15:11
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Lava_Croftwell, the system is pretty much the same15:11
Lava_Croftbut it lacks some of the openness and the HW keyboard15:11
Lava_Croftbut its also way less fragile15:11
Lava_Croftand the Swipe UI is pretty damn good15:12
Lava_Croftyou can still run xterm and do magic15:12
Codename-StrikeHad to admit, lack of HW keyboard was my major point of disinterest15:13
Codename-StrikeBut I really like the UI15:13
Lava_CroftUI is fine too :P15:13
Lava_Croftand the lack of a hw keyboard is indeed troublesome something, but damn, look at that devbice15:14
Lava_Crofta keyboard would just not do it justice:)15:14
Lava_Croftso prettai!15:14
lucidofrom: ->     The device lock functionality is deprecated. Please use the devicelock interface.15:17
lucidoTouchscreen/keypad lock15:17
lucidowhat is this devicelock interface?15:17
Lava_CroftSlashdot got a mobile site15:18
Lava_Crofta proper one15:18
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lucidoI think it's this one:
lucidois the firmwares source code available15:26
lucidospecifically interested in the implementation of
lucidohow can I prevent other app from getting into focus15:36
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lucidois the harmattan source available?15:45
phakonot everything15:46
lucidofound this package: system-ui-screenlock-nokia, this is what I'm trying to reverse engineer15:50
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Sfiet_Konstantinlucido: what are you trying to reverse engineer ?15:57
Sfiet_KonstantinI modified what can be displayed on the N9(50) screen lock15:58
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Sfiet_Konstantinbut if you are maybe doing something more interesting, like adressing the lock screen code dialer15:58
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jonnilucido: you cannot prevent, any 3rd party application can get the focus even when device lock is on (if they know what api to call)17:06
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DocScrutinizer05ZogG_laptop: pong18:56
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djszapi_anybody well skilled with computer graphics? :-)20:09
rzrhi djszapi_20:17
rzrcan you fix20:18
rzrjust a typo20:18
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djszapi_rzr, yes, but not now.20:18
rzralso can i ask where do you qt5base*,orig.tar.gz came from ?20:19
djszapi_you mean "qt5-base_5.0.0~beta1.orig.tar.bz2 "?20:21
djszapi_actually we should use xz.20:21
rzrthat's what I've done20:21
djszapi_but you can download it from gitorious20:23
djszapi_that is the simplest.20:23
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rzrbut different20:25
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djszapi_you will get a tar.gz20:29
djszapi_you can decompress and compress then.20:29
djszapi_or you can clone the repository and then get xz directly with an alias for a long command, but I do not have time for cloning just because of this.20:30
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djszapi_rzr: typo fixed20:34
djszapi_kdelibs needs 6-7 hours to rebuild20:34
djszapi_and then the others will be fine hopefully.20:34
djszapi_rzr: I accidentally deleted the .dsc file for kdebase-runtime20:38
djszapi_could you please revert that commit20:38
djszapi_I do not have an osc setup here just now.20:38
djszapi_seems it is not possible to revert a commit on the webinterface.20:39
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rzrhold on20:51
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rzrdjszapi_, done21:01
djszapi_rzr: thanks!21:01
rzryou welcome21:04
rzrbtw when u trashed home:rzr:h:testing ?21:04
rzrdid u merge most package into home:r:harmattan ?21:04
djszapi_I did not trash anything21:04
djszapi_duplicated packages were removed21:04
djszapi_not duplicated were moved to hrh21:05
rzrno side effects ?21:05
rzri duplicated some to rebuild gtk21:05
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djszapiN9rzr, what about funkeysynth?22:04
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rzrit didnt see pa files ...22:06
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djszapiN9rzr, weird22:25
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rzrdjszapi_, i suspect lynx break gtk22:34
djszapi_rzr: hmm22:36
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